I mean I knew about it, I just didn’t find a good way to implement it into the script so I didn’t talk about it. But you can see at the end of the video I put it in b-tier
@Kirblae Fair, but for most maps in double dash, the gimmiks and mechanics can only go so far with the premise of the game itself. If you rank double dash tracks next to all the other base form tracks, then they wouldn't fair well. So, for the game itself, Luigis Circuit can be seen as the best beginner course for the set up of it. But in that regard, it's fair to dislike it more than others because of that. It just seems that it's an instant knock against double dash tracks where that's there purpose.
@@Kirblae If you didn’t play them on the original game, you didn’t get the actual experience. Double Dash remade tracks are for some reason inflated in size and feel not only less hectic, but easier and slower paced in remakes.
Honestly, I think Royal Raceway should count as a Peach course. Its Japanese name is _literally_ "Peach Circuit", for crying out loud! Likewise, I'm not sure if Piranha Plant Pipeline should or shouldn't count as a Piranha Plant course, since its Japanese name is "(Warp) Pipe Canyon", making it as much of a Piranha Plant course as Mushroom Bridge, Mushroom City, Shroom Ridge and Mushroom Gorge being Toad courses. If it does count, then should other courses count which have character names in different languages? Would Ice Ice Outpost count as a Toad course because its Dutch name is "Toads Poolbasis" (Toad's Polar Base)? It's also kinda odd that the Tour versions of certain courses, most notably the GBA courses Cheep Cheep Island and Yoshi Desert, and maybe Luigi Circuit too, aren't being mentioned at all. Considering that literally every single course in the Booster Course Pass is revamped from their Tour incarnation, I feel like had these two in particular been added to MK8, they honestly wouldn't have changed a lot from how they appear in Tour... and while Tour does a good job in modernizing these GBA courses with added elevation and assets, it also kind of has the tendency to simplify their course maps with less narrow or less tight curves (Sky Garden being the most obvious example).
I’m not gonna lie, I didn’t even consider the different names in different versions. Ive never played the Japanese version and I’m sure a lot of people haven’t either. I guess I’m only considering the English versions of each course. Also I’ve never played tour, and I see that more as a spin-off game kinda like the arcade games, so I didn’t really count any of the remakes unless they made it to the booster course pass
@@Kirblae There are some internal filenames that attribute certain courses to characters as well. Mushroom Bridge and Mushroom City are actually dedicated to Koopa Troopa and Paratroopa instead of Toad. You can check out The Cutting Room Floor for that.
@Kirblae From what I’ve seen online regarding speculation of the next MarioKart game, Nintendo considers Tour to be the official 9th entry in the series, and that thusly the next game will be the 10th. Maybe in a shorter, future video you could cover the tour and arcade tracks.
thing is, that only works on the SNES, in any other version where the Feather Item isn't avaible it's LITERALLY a useless path Even then in SNES the jump is stupidly hard to jump
Only real issue I have with this is when you call a track not fun to play. Like Shy Guy Falls. You called the end clunky and the shortcut not even fun. That’s a skill issue. If you learn how to do it, it becomes crazy fun. Same for a few other courses you mentioned.
I agree. Based on the gameplay footage, this youtuber doesn't seem to be extremely skilled at mk8 deluxe. Learning the track definitely makes it more enjoyable
Another example is waluigi stadium. I love the Wii version, but I hated the MK8DX version when it came out. After watching the shroomless WR and practicing the track and learning the tech, it’s become one of my favorite tracks.
@@TKCEDMthose are luck based tracks and their layouts are too simple. The only skill there is consistently performing the shortcuts/bagging well, which goes the same for every track. Those two tracks leads more on their gimmick to be fun.
@@TKCEDM Exitebike arena has tech in it that lets you go faster and get ahead of the pack for front running. Baby park involves strategy as far as item usage. Running the track isn’t going to get you a win against skilled players. Bagging until the last 3 laps and then using your dodge items will net you a lot of wins. And of course taking good lines and being aware of threats around you is very important. 1 bad race isn’t the end all, but on literally every track in the game, there’s stuff to learn, whether that be lines or strategy. You can’t win every race, but you CAN make your average placement go up. Literally all you have to do is look up shroomless wr and figure out how to replicate it. Once you know all the tracks, all the tracks are fun.
I'm sick and tired of people saying that a track with little to no shortcuts makes track worse. It's the same argument as people saying hallways are bad in Sonic games. If ykyk. First of, the linearity is there for a reason. It fits with the tracks theme. Daisy Cruiser is a cruise ship. It doesn't make sense to have shortcuts in such an enclosed space. Same for Waluigi Pinball, pinball machines are not open in any way shape or form. It's literally a box. Secondly, shortcuts are not what make tracks fun to drive, it's the layout. Obviously shortcuts help the track, but it's not necessary to be good. Usually a track with less shortcuts are harder to drive optimally, but beginners can take it wide. This conpensates for the absence of shortcuts, as you can still save time and get ahead by driving well, it's just not as immediately gratifying as a shortcut. In fact you even said that you like shortcuts that take time to master, and aren't immediately obvious. Guess what? Driving optimally on linear tracks are the exact equivalent! TL;DR: Skill issue, and that's what it's meant to be. Great video btw. Love the organisation here. 👍🏾
I mean having no shortcuts isn’t always a bad thing. But just driving the course efficiently isn’t that fun compared getting the right item at the right time to make a good shortcut. It’s satisfying to drive efficiently, but not fun.
@@KirblaePerefct driving getting all the mts in the correct spots, taking really tight lines and doing all the advanced tech is incredibly fun, reason why I like tracks like 8's Mario Circuit, Daisy Cruiser and Toad's Factory too with the ending shroomless shortcut above the lake and lots of others like the kusaan airhop at the end of BC2 in the BCP to just fly into the wall and save time the last lap. Also reason why some tracks like dk summit and mushroom gorge are fan favourites since they are technical tracks.
If you go to a local fast food restaurant and took lil bit of all drinks from the soda dispenser you get a diabetic carbonated slop, that is 3DS bowser castle in execution
I honestly feel like Luigi Circuit and Daisy Cruiser's best version is in the original Double Dash. I get that you haven't played Double Dash yet but I feel like they're the most fun in that version as it feels perfect for Double Dash's gameplay and controls and I feel like you're kind of missing out on why most people find those tracks fun. Of course, I do respect on your takes on those tracks but just throwing it out that you might think differently of those tracks once you've played their original version, or not but that's okay, I get that as well Btw, GCN Luigi Circuit is a retro track in Mario Kart DS along with SNES Mario Circuit 1 which you both thought never returned in another Mario Kart
@derpysquid6595 Royal Raceway is called Peach Circuit in Japan. All 8 of the characters in MK64 have a home track Mario Kart Stadium is a 'Mario kart' series track more than a Mario track. Mario's MK8 course is just Mario Circuit.
@@HDRookie okay? He probably didn't know that, plus because this guy is American he possibly might have chose not to consider it because he was going off English releases instead
Piranha Plant Cove is one of my FAVORITE tracks in the whole game 😭😭 but that might be because of the little anglerfish enemies in the background, anglerfish are my favorite animals so seeing them in the track made me so excited. But I also just love water tracks, especially if they take place under the water, so I may be a little biased lol
I'm going to be honest I wasn't expecting someone to actually not dis Toad's Turnpike after hearing all the other stuff from the lower list courses, but I too am a fan of highway/city courses that feature traffic as obstacles so kudos!
At the middle of the video, I started thinking if u forgot DK by any chance and then when I realized he was at Top 3 and even the 1st place, I got really happy. He's my favourite character and the tracks are also iconic
Wii Peach Gardens is actually my least favorite of them. 8DX Peach Gardens goes backward through a previously planned yet unused section of the track, which is so cool. Also, they Daisy slander is irredeemable
Should have included Royal Raceway as a Peach track. Even though her name is not in the title, it's obvious that's her track in Mario Kart 64. All the other characters have a track named after them and I assume Royal Raceway is Peaches, even has the castle. :)
7:10 "I know people like how it's essentially the eight in the logo of the game" That's not what makes the track cool What makes it cool is that it's a mobius strip, making it everyone's favorite use of the anti-grav in eight
Another hot take, piranha plant cove is fantastic, from the music, to the scenery, the underwater ruins vibe, the tunnel with all the sea creatures, driving through the piranhas above land, with the torches, to the shortcuts with the tricks to floating across corners, the thwomps to avoid, and the eels swimming around. You can trick off the pillars too, and it’s just some of the best variety you can have. It’s my 3rd favourite dlc track behind wii rainbow road, and yoshis island, and my 5th favorite overall, behind dolphin shoals, and music park.
Piranha Plant Pipeline, Piranha Plant Cove, Ninja Hideaway, and Squeaky Clean Sprint are one of my all time favorite Tour original tracks. Just absolute fun. And the music is fun to listen to
Shy Guy and Daisy deserve better! Both of them have more recognizable courses. When you think of MK7 Shy Guy Bazaar is the course. When you think of MKDD, you think of Daisy Cruiser. I dare anyone to say I’m wrong…
0:18 I mean if you are saying that mushroom gorgeous the world one theme from New Super Mario Bros Wii, that game came out a year after Mario Kart Wii. However if you mean the world one theme in general throughout the Mario series I guess that would be potentially accurate. I'm not sure how accurate though because a lot of world one's don't have a bunch of mushroom towers or mushroom trees
I know you're British or Australian but I would just like to point out that N64 Royal Raceway it's actually a Peach Track, since it's name in the Original Japanese title (Original because Nintendo themselves are Japanese and the English version is a translation of that Japanese) the name of it it's "Peach Circuit" so N64 Royal Raceway is technically a canon Peach Track according to its original Japanese title, liked your video, thanks for sharing your opinion with us :)
Wait you should try to time trial piranha plant cove even tho you don't like it. It's one of those tracks that becomes pretty amazing with it being one of the most technical tracks in all of 8 deluxe with its many challenging shortcuts
Why am i being recommended so mamy good videos from so many super small channels, where have all these channels been, hope the algorithm keeps recommending them so more people can find them and sub
i feel like it would've helped if there was a visual indicator of all of the tracks and their ranking as you talked about them instead of just showing them at the end. also disliking Daisy Cruiser and thinking Wii Luigi Circuit is better than GCN Luigi Circuit is CRAAAAAZY. fun vid tho
I feel like saying a problem with Daisy Cruiser is that there are too many shortcuts is really unfair. Yoh said you would choose the best version, and you chose the switch version even with this complaint being null when compared to the DD version since the Switch (and MK7) version added more shortcuts. The small corridors is a fair critique though.
@@Kirblae Oh ok that's fair then. Tbh I wouldn't really consider the added paths to be shortcuts but I had assumed that's what you were talking about, my bad
Respect your opinions but most of them are very weak. Not remembering Bowser's Castle from the Wii? Dude you should have at least checked it while preparing the video
3ds bowser's castle has variety, but it's not cohesive at all. It's just random bowser-themed junk thrown together with no thought to how they flow together. I find a lot of 3ds courses have that due to how rushed the development was. I also don't like how so many of 3ds's shortcuts are just "drive off the side onto a ramp" but I will admit this track's take on that trend is significantly more dynamic than the others. If it were the only track with that mechanic it would be so much cooler.
That said, I like how you give really solid reasoning for your opinions. I can really see where you're coming from even if I don't agree with every entry.
30:50 Fun fact. the 3DS version you can actually go over that wall and grab some coins if you have a mushroom, also tis a bit more obvious in there that the underwater section is actually a pipe.
Thanks. I checked out your reaction and I really appreciate the in-depth feedback and your entertaining commentary. I made some errors for sure, I was kinda lazy with a lot of things cause it was already taking so long to make.
@Kirblae I get the feeling, when a project lingers too hard you just kinda wanna push it out the door, ive been there my fair share of times! I might've been a little nitpicky in places but really good stuff overall, man, very well paced, well edited, and takes you weren't afraid to say with your chest! I'll be keeping an eye out for your next one!
This is an interesting video. I like the concept. I had a similar idea of ranking tracks by value but I feel like it's good for the base ranking to organize your opinions, but there's other factors that aren't included in the criteria that are still relevant. For example you said you think wario should get 2nd place. If you truly feel that way, he should be 2nd. It's your list based on your own subjective opinions. A tier list can't always accurately rank your enjoyment of a track compared to the other tracks. Some tracks are so amazing they should be in S+++++++++ tier but that's unrealistic for the tier format unless you manually add separate tiers. Ranking them by score does make the video more interesting I guess since there's a value to each character, I just feel like the tier list to determine a score is very limiting. I enjoyed the video. I would recommend watching shortcats guide for mario kart 8 deluxe if you're interested in getting better at the game. You might be able to have more fun on some tracks. It would be cool to do an updated list like this when the next mario kart comes out or if your opinions end up changing a lot. Also I hope you like double dash when you play it. I think it's the most unique an beautiful mario kart game
There’s definitely huge issues with the ranking system, but I love ranking things and having actual data and categories to things. The result is only a little off my own opinion and honestly I’m ok with that. When the next Mario kart comes out in 10 years I’ll be sure to make a bunch of different videos on it.
Only thing I really disagree on is piranha plant cove being so far down on the list, once you learn the shroomless shortcuts for that it becomes soooo much more fun.
I was so scared that you were just gonna write off Luigi Circuit as a bland race track with some rain and a luigi blimp to save it from mediocrity but I'm very happy that you talked about just how good it is in Super Circuit with the game's drifting controls and getting the satisfaction of pulling off constant mini-turbos🙏it's my favorite Super Circuit track because of it
I really enjoy the video idea, only 11 minutes in and im very surprised by your hot takes of thinking Daisy Cruiser and GCN Luigi Circuit are bad. Although i do have a question, if you counted Royal Raceway in Peach's count how would she have performed? (Its weird how its not Peach Raceway, i get the alliteration, but like... its Peach's track, name it after her) Edit: just finished Bowser, i hope you didnt forget Neo Bowser City, not that i like it, but its the one Bowser course that isnt a Castle
Idk what the rank would be, probably a lot higher cause I love royal raceway. But I was really only counting the English versions cause that’s the only versions I’ve ever played
@Kirblae ya I saw that in another comment, didn't even think about named courses in other languages, I just meant it more so because it's a Peach course in all but name
Now don't get me wrong... I think this is a pretty good video overall and I find myself returning to watch it pretty often, but a little more research should've been done when making the video. The remakes present in Tour should've absolutely been taken into consideration, regardless of whether or not you've played or like the game. And Piranha Plant Cove was not one of Tour's first original tracks, not sure where you got that from.
It’s just personal preference on what I consider the best version of the track. So because I haven’t played it and don’t like the controls of tour, there’s just no way I’d consider any of those tracks
If you were going by Royal Raceway's name for it not being a Peach track, its name in Japanese is Peach Circuit. So I think you should have taken Japanese names into consideration.
you forgot about the hidden mario character named “circuit”, this character only appeared in a secret level in mario pinball land but somehow got many many courses in the mariokart series through collaborating with other characters.
Daisy's tracks are so good. My favorite circuit track is daisy circuit. Favorite beginner track daisy hill. And while I don't like cruiser as much. It's still really good.
Mario Kart Double Dash video when? I've been a Mario Kart fan for a long time now, and I still enjoy MK8D to this day, but Double Dash will always be my favorite, I highly recommend it. I also sincerely hope they make a remake of it eventually, it's that fun. I also hope you enjoy the game as much as we did, if you eventually get around to it. ^^
I got around to playing and don’t have any video ideas for the game. But I played it with a friends and had a great time getting over the initial learning curve
Personally I'm a fan of the remastered flat tracks like bowser castle 3 on the wii, because they're like more typical race circuits (ignoring the lava of course) and being a big f1 fan they're more like what they would drive on
MK7’s Mario Circuit is one of the better circuits in the series. The aesthetic is nice with those pink peachy trees?😅😅. There’s gliding shortcut you can take with a pipe that release air. You can go inside peach’s castle. It’s actually a really fun course
Wario Stadium for N64 has a LOT of difficult tricking. You can jump the walls when you time your jumps right, to the point where a lap on Wario Stadium is about 10 seconds long. Lots of shortcuts when you learn how to bunny hop the walls.
I think my man Toad has the greatest selection Harbour and Factory are done great and Circuit is alright, and Mushroom Bridge and City are good stuff too
Great list! Nice to see the big ape man DK got first, the two scoundrel bros ( yes Nintendo said they are not related, cover up I say ). Sad for Luigi and Daisy though. Would wish Rosaline and Pauline had their own tracks aswell. Star Road tracks could easly be linked to our cosmic lass and Pauline? Showbiz, cazinos, theathre based tracks!
Fantastic number 1! I was rooting for him the whole video! I was afraid that 2nd place would be number 1 because they only had 2 tracks, thus possibly making their average higher
I don’t even like Daisy’s character but your opinions of her tracks are enough to get you a life sentence
But her tracks are nothing great😭
I freaked out at his opinion about daisy cruise
i hate daisy with a passion so i'm tine with her ranking
he probably complains about dark souls being too hard
Dumb rules we all know royal raceway is peaches track
Same with Shy Guy. Wild Woods is his track. The glider section ends with a huge landing with his mask
It's even called Peach Circuit in Japan
BOO GOT ROBBED
@@paulgilbert5278 Same in France
like its literally called peach circuit in japan 🙄
"i wish i couldve placed this character higher" my brother in christ this is YOUR VIDEO
Nah, can’t be done
For Bowser, you forgot to talk about Neo Bowser City
15 bowser tracks
I mean I knew about it, I just didn’t find a good way to implement it into the script so I didn’t talk about it. But you can see at the end of the video I put it in b-tier
It's also called koopa city in Europe so an argument could be made to include it with Koopa Troopa
@@tomdin0Nah Bowser is King Koopa, it's still a Bowser Themed track even with that name
Thats because it sucks
DAISY DESERVED WAAAAAY BETTER
She is literally the princess of an entire kingdom, and we have yet to see a proper Super Mario Land-related track.
i agree
Sarasaland Circuit where
shes got two bad tracks (diasys cruiser and daisy circuit) and one alright track in daisys hill
@@padderick Circuit and Cruiser are fan favorites. Don't call them mid. (I agree, though)
Shoutout to my favorite Mario character, Cheese, who would totally finish 1st with an average rank of 1st with their S+++ tier track, Cheese Land.
Luigi got robbed. Luigi Circuit on gamecube. With all the items in that game. Chefs kiss.
Maybe, but I’m not really a fan of courses with the gimmick being item chaos
@Kirblae Fair, but for most maps in double dash, the gimmiks and mechanics can only go so far with the premise of the game itself. If you rank double dash tracks next to all the other base form tracks, then they wouldn't fair well. So, for the game itself, Luigis Circuit can be seen as the best beginner course for the set up of it. But in that regard, it's fair to dislike it more than others because of that. It just seems that it's an instant knock against double dash tracks where that's there purpose.
@@Kirblae saying gcn luigi circuit is worse than snes mario circuits is a crime (jk its an opinion)
@@Kirblae If you didn’t play them on the original game, you didn’t get the actual experience. Double Dash remade tracks are for some reason inflated in size and feel not only less hectic, but easier and slower paced in remakes.
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**Sees Bowser in 8th** **closes video**
Nah you should understand those tracks in Super Mario Kart really bring the average down
@@bb5bucksNo SNES Bowser Castle 2 is a banger.
Yeah I love 90 degree turns when drifting on Mr scooty..
@@QenaitheCustodianGuard Skill issue
@CaptainRillaboomArmenia 100%.
Dry, scooty, azure and paper glider is a banger combo though. Pure vibe.
Daisy got robbed. Daisy's Cruiser is a top 5 track at least.
DC sucks
Daisy Cruiser is only good in Tour
No way in hell half the main cast got beaten by a fish
It’s a pretty cool fish
RAAAAAAA FISH MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🗣️
I LOVE JYURATODUS RAAAAAGHH
Honestly, I think Royal Raceway should count as a Peach course. Its Japanese name is _literally_ "Peach Circuit", for crying out loud! Likewise, I'm not sure if Piranha Plant Pipeline should or shouldn't count as a Piranha Plant course, since its Japanese name is "(Warp) Pipe Canyon", making it as much of a Piranha Plant course as Mushroom Bridge, Mushroom City, Shroom Ridge and Mushroom Gorge being Toad courses. If it does count, then should other courses count which have character names in different languages? Would Ice Ice Outpost count as a Toad course because its Dutch name is "Toads Poolbasis" (Toad's Polar Base)?
It's also kinda odd that the Tour versions of certain courses, most notably the GBA courses Cheep Cheep Island and Yoshi Desert, and maybe Luigi Circuit too, aren't being mentioned at all. Considering that literally every single course in the Booster Course Pass is revamped from their Tour incarnation, I feel like had these two in particular been added to MK8, they honestly wouldn't have changed a lot from how they appear in Tour... and while Tour does a good job in modernizing these GBA courses with added elevation and assets, it also kind of has the tendency to simplify their course maps with less narrow or less tight curves (Sky Garden being the most obvious example).
I’m not gonna lie, I didn’t even consider the different names in different versions. Ive never played the Japanese version and I’m sure a lot of people haven’t either. I guess I’m only considering the English versions of each course.
Also I’ve never played tour, and I see that more as a spin-off game kinda like the arcade games, so I didn’t really count any of the remakes unless they made it to the booster course pass
@@Kirblae There are some internal filenames that attribute certain courses to characters as well. Mushroom Bridge and Mushroom City are actually dedicated to Koopa Troopa and Paratroopa instead of Toad. You can check out The Cutting Room Floor for that.
@Kirblae From what I’ve seen online regarding speculation of the next MarioKart game, Nintendo considers Tour to be the official 9th entry in the series, and that thusly the next game will be the 10th. Maybe in a shorter, future video you could cover the tour and arcade tracks.
@@Kirblaeother English versions of the game have different course names too🙄🤦
People forget that SNES Bowsers Castle 2's 'useless path into lava' is actually for the Feather item to take a big shortcut
thing is, that only works on the SNES, in any other version where the Feather Item isn't avaible it's LITERALLY a useless path
Even then in SNES the jump is stupidly hard to jump
@@Notyouraveragegal69In GBA they should’ve given it a mushroom-only ramp
@@agentblackbird9435 yeah I agree, so weird they didn't add that Rainbow Road ramp to it, as you said make it require a mushroom
Only real issue I have with this is when you call a track not fun to play. Like Shy Guy Falls. You called the end clunky and the shortcut not even fun. That’s a skill issue. If you learn how to do it, it becomes crazy fun. Same for a few other courses you mentioned.
I agree. Based on the gameplay footage, this youtuber doesn't seem to be extremely skilled at mk8 deluxe. Learning the track definitely makes it more enjoyable
Another example is waluigi stadium. I love the Wii version, but I hated the MK8DX version when it came out. After watching the shroomless WR and practicing the track and learning the tech, it’s become one of my favorite tracks.
So does Excitebike Arena or Baby Park become fun to play if you learn how to play it, or is that a skill issue? Track quality isn't objective lol
@@TKCEDMthose are luck based tracks and their layouts are too simple. The only skill there is consistently performing the shortcuts/bagging well, which goes the same for every track. Those two tracks leads more on their gimmick to be fun.
@@TKCEDM Exitebike arena has tech in it that lets you go faster and get ahead of the pack for front running.
Baby park involves strategy as far as item usage. Running the track isn’t going to get you a win against skilled players. Bagging until the last 3 laps and then using your dodge items will net you a lot of wins.
And of course taking good lines and being aware of threats around you is very important. 1 bad race isn’t the end all, but on literally every track in the game, there’s stuff to learn, whether that be lines or strategy.
You can’t win every race, but you CAN make your average placement go up. Literally all you have to do is look up shroomless wr and figure out how to replicate it. Once you know all the tracks, all the tracks are fun.
*inhales deeply* I WILL NOT TOLERATE DAISY SLANDER.
"Hi I’m Daisy😀"
I'm sick and tired of people saying that a track with little to no shortcuts makes track worse. It's the same argument as people saying hallways are bad in Sonic games. If ykyk.
First of, the linearity is there for a reason. It fits with the tracks theme. Daisy Cruiser is a cruise ship. It doesn't make sense to have shortcuts in such an enclosed space. Same for Waluigi Pinball, pinball machines are not open in any way shape or form. It's literally a box.
Secondly, shortcuts are not what make tracks fun to drive, it's the layout. Obviously shortcuts help the track, but it's not necessary to be good. Usually a track with less shortcuts are harder to drive optimally, but beginners can take it wide. This conpensates for the absence of shortcuts, as you can still save time and get ahead by driving well, it's just not as immediately gratifying as a shortcut. In fact you even said that you like shortcuts that take time to master, and aren't immediately obvious. Guess what? Driving optimally on linear tracks are the exact equivalent!
TL;DR: Skill issue, and that's what it's meant to be. Great video btw. Love the organisation here. 👍🏾
I mean having no shortcuts isn’t always a bad thing. But just driving the course efficiently isn’t that fun compared getting the right item at the right time to make a good shortcut. It’s satisfying to drive efficiently, but not fun.
@@KirblaePerefct driving getting all the mts in the correct spots, taking really tight lines and doing all the advanced tech is incredibly fun, reason why I like tracks like 8's Mario Circuit, Daisy Cruiser and Toad's Factory too with the ending shroomless shortcut above the lake and lots of others like the kusaan airhop at the end of BC2 in the BCP to just fly into the wall and save time the last lap.
Also reason why some tracks like dk summit and mushroom gorge are fan favourites since they are technical tracks.
@@Kirblae doesnt that kind of go against what you said about cheese land while comparing it to other shortcuts
Bro doesn't like daisy cruiser but likes 3ds bowser's castle and daisy hills 💀
On Cackletta 😭🙏
@@skategoats5266 3DS Bowsers Castle is probably one of the more underrated tracks in the series
@@joshdavenport6290Yeah 3DS Bowser’s Castle is solid, Daisy Hills on the other hand…..
3ds bowsers castle is underrated
If you go to a local fast food restaurant and took lil bit of all drinks from the soda dispenser you get a diabetic carbonated slop, that is 3DS bowser castle in execution
Great video but I was screaming at my screen because of your rankings 🤣🤣
I honestly feel like Luigi Circuit and Daisy Cruiser's best version is in the original Double Dash. I get that you haven't played Double Dash yet but I feel like they're the most fun in that version as it feels perfect for Double Dash's gameplay and controls and I feel like you're kind of missing out on why most people find those tracks fun. Of course, I do respect on your takes on those tracks but just throwing it out that you might think differently of those tracks once you've played their original version, or not but that's okay, I get that as well
Btw, GCN Luigi Circuit is a retro track in Mario Kart DS along with SNES Mario Circuit 1 which you both thought never returned in another Mario Kart
*sees peach last*
"..."
*immediately clicks off*
Bro called Mario kart stadium a Mario track… 💀 and not royal raceway as a peach track…
It was only ones with their names in the title. I may heavily disagree with his list but he’s in the right
@@derpysquid6595it's called MARIO KART track as in, the GAME
@@verycoolfork yes, and what is in that name
@derpysquid6595 Royal Raceway is called Peach Circuit in Japan. All 8 of the characters in MK64 have a home track
Mario Kart Stadium is a 'Mario kart' series track more than a Mario track. Mario's MK8 course is just Mario Circuit.
@@HDRookie okay? He probably didn't know that, plus because this guy is American he possibly might have chose not to consider it because he was going off English releases instead
Piranha Plant Cove is one of my FAVORITE tracks in the whole game 😭😭 but that might be because of the little anglerfish enemies in the background, anglerfish are my favorite animals so seeing them in the track made me so excited. But I also just love water tracks, especially if they take place under the water, so I may be a little biased lol
I'm going to be honest I wasn't expecting someone to actually not dis Toad's Turnpike after hearing all the other stuff from the lower list courses, but I too am a fan of highway/city courses that feature traffic as obstacles so kudos!
40:33 I love how it cuts away before the Ball Bouncing Back hits Funky Kong, it caught me off guard😂
Never let bro cook Bowser Castles again.
At the middle of the video, I started thinking if u forgot DK by any chance and then when I realized he was at Top 3 and even the 1st place, I got really happy. He's my favourite character and the tracks are also iconic
10:54 how does Daisy Cruiser have an abundance of shortcuts? I genuinely can only think of one that's in the underwater section
I meant the opposite
You have an "interesting" opinion
Watching you hit me over and over with red shells in this video is making me rather uncomfortable
I made sure to include the best moments
👤➕𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗵!
Wii Peach Gardens is actually my least favorite of them. 8DX Peach Gardens goes backward through a previously planned yet unused section of the track, which is so cool. Also, they Daisy slander is irredeemable
Should have included Royal Raceway as a Peach track. Even though her name is not in the title, it's obvious that's her track in Mario Kart 64. All the other characters have a track named after them and I assume Royal Raceway is Peaches, even has the castle. :)
Ok I’ve gotten 1000 comments about this, I wasn’t aware everyone knew this fact
@@Kirblaein japan its Peach Circuit 64
7:10
"I know people like how it's essentially the eight in the logo of the game"
That's not what makes the track cool
What makes it cool is that it's a mobius strip, making it everyone's favorite use of the anti-grav in eight
I still don’t think the course is that fun
@@Kirblae mid take
Another hot take, piranha plant cove is fantastic, from the music, to the scenery, the underwater ruins vibe, the tunnel with all the sea creatures, driving through the piranhas above land, with the torches, to the shortcuts with the tricks to floating across corners, the thwomps to avoid, and the eels swimming around. You can trick off the pillars too, and it’s just some of the best variety you can have. It’s my 3rd favourite dlc track behind wii rainbow road, and yoshis island, and my 5th favorite overall, behind dolphin shoals, and music park.
That's the coldest take I've seen all day.
Fr? i feel a lot of people don’t like that track.
Piranha Plant Pipeline, Piranha Plant Cove, Ninja Hideaway, and Squeaky Clean Sprint are one of my all time favorite Tour original tracks. Just absolute fun. And the music is fun to listen to
Piranha plant cove was a switch original track, added to tour later, please correct me if I’m wrong
Shy Guy and Daisy deserve better! Both of them have more recognizable courses. When you think of MK7 Shy Guy Bazaar is the course. When you think of MKDD, you think of Daisy Cruiser. I dare anyone to say I’m wrong…
When I think of mk7 I think rainbow road or wuhu loop. And double dash I think of dk mountain
Bowser is definitely gonna be 1st
Edit: I was wrong
0:18 I mean if you are saying that mushroom gorgeous the world one theme from New Super Mario Bros Wii, that game came out a year after Mario Kart Wii. However if you mean the world one theme in general throughout the Mario series I guess that would be potentially accurate. I'm not sure how accurate though because a lot of world one's don't have a bunch of mushroom towers or mushroom trees
The fact that you didn’t use the Tour version of Peach Circuit is so sad… it’s such a cool and dynamic remake
I don’t know any tour remakes, asides for the ones that appeared in the BCP
Personally I think piranha plant cove is an S tier track. I just love all the different shortcuts
Cheep Cheep has always been my favorite enemy (along with Boo) I love to see the little guy getting recognition and appreciation for once
I know you're British or Australian but I would just like to point out that N64 Royal Raceway it's actually a Peach Track, since it's name in the Original Japanese title (Original because Nintendo themselves are Japanese and the English version is a translation of that Japanese) the name of it it's "Peach Circuit" so N64 Royal Raceway is technically a canon Peach Track according to its original Japanese title, liked your video, thanks for sharing your opinion with us :)
Nice vid, some parts I wouldn't exactly agree with but overall I hope your channel grows
Wait you should try to time trial piranha plant cove even tho you don't like it. It's one of those tracks that becomes pretty amazing with it being one of the most technical tracks in all of 8 deluxe with its many challenging shortcuts
I agree it is my favourite tour track
Why am i being recommended so mamy good videos from so many super small channels, where have all these channels been, hope the algorithm keeps recommending them so more people can find them and sub
On behalf of your opinion on Daisy Cruiser, skill issue
How does this only have 4000 views? Keep up the good work man!
This video is “I really loved the track and its unique design, but unfortunately it got C tier, last place”
It do be like that sometimes
Bowser's tracks are High GOAT PEAK👑
i feel like it would've helped if there was a visual indicator of all of the tracks and their ranking as you talked about them instead of just showing them at the end.
also disliking Daisy Cruiser and thinking Wii Luigi Circuit is better than GCN Luigi Circuit is CRAAAAAZY. fun vid tho
I feel like saying a problem with Daisy Cruiser is that there are too many shortcuts is really unfair. Yoh said you would choose the best version, and you chose the switch version even with this complaint being null when compared to the DD version since the Switch (and MK7) version added more shortcuts. The small corridors is a fair critique though.
I thought abundance meant lack of. There’s actually no shortcuts in the course
@@Kirblae Oh ok that's fair then. Tbh I wouldn't really consider the added paths to be shortcuts but I had assumed that's what you were talking about, my bad
@@Kirblae you might've been thinking of "Absence"
Respect your opinions but most of them are very weak. Not remembering Bowser's Castle from the Wii? Dude you should have at least checked it while preparing the video
I played all the tracks for footage. It’s more of a critique of how the bowser castle’s feel very similar
Yall need to stop hating on Tour cities, they’re so unique and cool!
Some of them are cool like Sydney and Berlin, but most of them are pretty boring
@@Kirblae but I love idea of racing in real life cities, I wish they made more tbh
3ds bowser's castle has variety, but it's not cohesive at all. It's just random bowser-themed junk thrown together with no thought to how they flow together. I find a lot of 3ds courses have that due to how rushed the development was.
I also don't like how so many of 3ds's shortcuts are just "drive off the side onto a ramp" but I will admit this track's take on that trend is significantly more dynamic than the others. If it were the only track with that mechanic it would be so much cooler.
That said, I like how you give really solid reasoning for your opinions. I can really see where you're coming from even if I don't agree with every entry.
27:02 yoshi desert has a great remake in tour
I wish it came to the booster course pass
This might just be my own stupid opinion but I feel that yoshis island should be a bit higher in the tier list
Erm, actually Lakitu owns every track because it says so in the first games instructional booklet
30:50 Fun fact. the 3DS version you can actually go over that wall and grab some coins if you have a mushroom, also tis a bit more obvious in there that the underwater section is actually a pipe.
26:15 It actually was a gimmick, though it didn't do it in the same way you're suggesting. The faster paths had more enemies to dodge.
Can’t believe we got Mario Circuit 3 instead of Piranha Plant Pipeline
Well, Kirblae, your takes are odd but i must say, you make a fun video!
Fr
Musty, are you going to make a ranking of every winter tracks in the series?
Thanks. I checked out your reaction and I really appreciate the in-depth feedback and your entertaining commentary. I made some errors for sure, I was kinda lazy with a lot of things cause it was already taking so long to make.
@Kirblae I get the feeling, when a project lingers too hard you just kinda wanna push it out the door, ive been there my fair share of times!
I might've been a little nitpicky in places but really good stuff overall, man, very well paced, well edited, and takes you weren't afraid to say with your chest!
I'll be keeping an eye out for your next one!
@@Sir_Musty, Are you going to make a ranking of every winter tracks in the series???
I feel like you should have included Royal Raceway since its Japanese name is "Peach Circuit." It was entirely intended to be a Peach course.
Sounds like all of your critiques are because of skill issue 😂
This is the most cursed Tier List I’ve ever seen
hot take, each koopaling could have a themed course, with like different elements and stuff, it could be a lot of variety
The koopalings need to be deleted
they do steal a lot of spots for other drivers, so i get that
damn theres a few things in this video but shy guy falls really just got put down due to a skill issue
This is an interesting video. I like the concept. I had a similar idea of ranking tracks by value but I feel like it's good for the base ranking to organize your opinions, but there's other factors that aren't included in the criteria that are still relevant. For example you said you think wario should get 2nd place. If you truly feel that way, he should be 2nd. It's your list based on your own subjective opinions. A tier list can't always accurately rank your enjoyment of a track compared to the other tracks. Some tracks are so amazing they should be in S+++++++++ tier but that's unrealistic for the tier format unless you manually add separate tiers. Ranking them by score does make the video more interesting I guess since there's a value to each character, I just feel like the tier list to determine a score is very limiting. I enjoyed the video. I would recommend watching shortcats guide for mario kart 8 deluxe if you're interested in getting better at the game. You might be able to have more fun on some tracks. It would be cool to do an updated list like this when the next mario kart comes out or if your opinions end up changing a lot. Also I hope you like double dash when you play it. I think it's the most unique an beautiful mario kart game
There’s definitely huge issues with the ranking system, but I love ranking things and having actual data and categories to things. The result is only a little off my own opinion and honestly I’m ok with that.
When the next Mario kart comes out in 10 years I’ll be sure to make a bunch of different videos on it.
Only thing I really disagree on is piranha plant cove being so far down on the list, once you learn the shroomless shortcuts for that it becomes soooo much more fun.
I was so scared that you were just gonna write off Luigi Circuit as a bland race track with some rain and a luigi blimp to save it from mediocrity but I'm very happy that you talked about just how good it is in Super Circuit with the game's drifting controls and getting the satisfaction of pulling off constant mini-turbos🙏it's my favorite Super Circuit track because of it
I really enjoy the video idea, only 11 minutes in and im very surprised by your hot takes of thinking Daisy Cruiser and GCN Luigi Circuit are bad.
Although i do have a question, if you counted Royal Raceway in Peach's count how would she have performed? (Its weird how its not Peach Raceway, i get the alliteration, but like... its Peach's track, name it after her)
Edit: just finished Bowser, i hope you didnt forget Neo Bowser City, not that i like it, but its the one Bowser course that isnt a Castle
Idk what the rank would be, probably a lot higher cause I love royal raceway. But I was really only counting the English versions cause that’s the only versions I’ve ever played
@Kirblae ya I saw that in another comment, didn't even think about named courses in other languages, I just meant it more so because it's a Peach course in all but name
For somebody that has been playing Mario kart 8 for close to a decade, he’s not very good at it.
Now don't get me wrong... I think this is a pretty good video overall and I find myself returning to watch it pretty often, but a little more research should've been done when making the video. The remakes present in Tour should've absolutely been taken into consideration, regardless of whether or not you've played or like the game. And Piranha Plant Cove was not one of Tour's first original tracks, not sure where you got that from.
It’s just personal preference on what I consider the best version of the track. So because I haven’t played it and don’t like the controls of tour, there’s just no way I’d consider any of those tracks
If you were going by Royal Raceway's name for it not being a Peach track, its name in Japanese is Peach Circuit. So I think you should have taken Japanese names into consideration.
you forgot about the hidden mario character named “circuit”, this character only appeared in a secret level in mario pinball land but somehow got many many courses in the mariokart series through collaborating with other characters.
Is circuit also a time traveler?
@@Kirblae no, they named him after the games
“Best version of every track” and talks about 8 Daisy Cruiser and Circuit 😭
Super mario kart, super circuits remake are way worst that the originals.
As all hazards are gone. No twhops. No moles etc.
Every time I play super Mario kart I have a bad time
Daisy's tracks are so good.
My favorite circuit track is daisy circuit.
Favorite beginner track daisy hill.
And while I don't like cruiser as much. It's still really good.
Had to like the video after I heard your opinion on toad
25:06 RIP my soul, I Love this track. It’s my favourite track in the entire series.
Underated youtuber keep it up👍🏻
Dry bones dunes is like dry bones only race, sad to see your favourite charecter go so forgotten
Mario Kart Double Dash video when?
I've been a Mario Kart fan for a long time now, and I still enjoy MK8D to this day, but Double Dash will always be my favorite, I highly recommend it. I also sincerely hope they make a remake of it eventually, it's that fun. I also hope you enjoy the game as much as we did, if you eventually get around to it. ^^
I got around to playing and don’t have any video ideas for the game. But I played it with a friends and had a great time getting over the initial learning curve
@Kirblae it's fun.
Baby Park was always our favorite course, because:
A - items can go over the margins.
B - Insanity.
interesting idea for a vid! love it ❤
I'd personally say that Maple Treeway is Wiggler's track and Melody Motorway is a Toadette track. Plus Royal Raceway is called Peach Circuit in Japan.
Personally I'm a fan of the remastered flat tracks like bowser castle 3 on the wii, because they're like more typical race circuits (ignoring the lava of course) and being a big f1 fan they're more like what they would drive on
MK7’s Mario Circuit is one of the better circuits in the series. The aesthetic is nice with those pink peachy trees?😅😅. There’s gliding shortcut you can take with a pipe that release air. You can go inside peach’s castle. It’s actually a really fun course
It’s pretty good for a Mario circuit
Shortcuts doesn’t make a track better!
Wario Stadium for N64 has a LOT of difficult tricking. You can jump the walls when you time your jumps right, to the point where a lap on Wario Stadium is about 10 seconds long. Lots of shortcuts when you learn how to bunny hop the walls.
7:48 I’m so happy this awesome track didn’t get slandered
37:28 i knew u never played double dash after the luigi circuit comment
We need @sir musty to react to this
I mean I'll give the edge to Rainbow. They know how to make an epic "final" track for basically all Mario Kart titles.
rainbow was disqualified for rigging the ranking
All of these great courses you don’t like because you are not good at marioksrt
Waluigi pinball in B tier is actually criminal 😭
I think my man Toad has the greatest selection
Harbour and Factory are done great and Circuit is alright, and Mushroom Bridge and City are good stuff too
Your driving on Daisy Cruiser shows that your opinion is based on a skill issue. And, do you even know what "abundance" means?
Sorry bro, but I don’t think you cooked. Cool idea for a video though.
My stupid ahh thought you were gonna talk about tricks 💀💀💀
Great list! Nice to see the big ape man DK got first, the two scoundrel bros ( yes Nintendo said they are not related, cover up I say ). Sad for Luigi and Daisy though. Would wish Rosaline and Pauline had their own tracks aswell. Star Road tracks could easly be linked to our cosmic lass and Pauline? Showbiz, cazinos, theathre based tracks!
Maybe the next Mario kart will shine a light on the characters with no tracks
I know alot of people have already said this but: YO-shi not yosh-E ok
I don’t mean to hate but that was just getting on my nerves
I will never say YOshi, it’s too American
@@Kirblae mate I’m bri’ish and I prefer YOshi
@@Skull-wants-sweets what’s wrong with you
Fantastic number 1! I was rooting for him the whole video! I was afraid that 2nd place would be number 1 because they only had 2 tracks, thus possibly making their average higher
He's back and he's poppin off!!!
This video is so good! Super underrated channel! I’m subbing!