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VEGAS Pro 20 - Fix Crashing / Run Faster / Optimize Performance - 👨🏫
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2022
- Hey Scrappers! Josh here with another VEGAS 20 tutorial and in this one I'll be showing you how to make VEGAS crash less, run faster, and optimize performance!
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It is also important to mention... if you see some issues with VST-3 plugins... please press the "Refresh" button in the "VST Effects" tab. Thanks Josh for your videos snd support.
A fantastic note!
Hi, thanks for the suggestion. I've refreshed VST plugins directory, but the problem still persist. I cannot load single vst3 effect - every time Vegas 20 crashes. :(
Editors shouldn't need this deep explanation just to "reduce" lag. they should fix the program seriously especially in the lag problem
seriously! most of us pay for this
not really, all software can be optimized if needed (big editing computers do not really need this tutorial)
@@VegasFan3000 not really, even good hardware (which I have) can freeze while rendering. Of course, when inserting many formats of different sizes, frames, etc... but other programs do not have this problem. The point is that in Vegas you work much faster than in other programs, and that's why we choose it.
I switched long ago to Voukoder for my rendering plugin, and I never looked back! Voukoder completely solved every hit or miss rendering problem I've ever had. Ain't nothing worse than spending 1.5 hours rendering out a video just to end up with a corrupted/blocky steaming pile of 💩. Vegas used to be solid for me, right up until it wasn't. Voukoder was/is my solution for the Vegas inconsistency, and ya can't beat the price.... Free! Cheers 🍻
It's so good I donated twice.
for me it was the fact it reduced render times by about 1/3! using magix avc on an hour long video it would take 23 minutes, with voukoder it was 16 minutes. that alone was a god send cause doing the exact same thing on the free da vinci resolve (which uses cpu only) took 45 minutes :/
just hope they enable using more than just 48khz sample rate (youtube allows 96khz for music videos, and youtube live streams are 44.1khz so transmuxing it to 48khz is pointless) and the CoreAudio AAC codec and not just FFMPEG AAC at some point (but i can always render the video alone and use avidemux to insert the audio anyway since it just has a straight-up "Copy" mode that takes no time at all, ha!)
Thanks for the info! I appreciate you taking the time to do this!
6:15 This!! THIS!!! oh my god i can't explain how much i had to suffer with random glitches with vegas until i tried this, FIXED EVERYTHING!! thank you!!! 😭😭 i have searched for sooo long for a fix
Great tips as always, thanks again!
Great video! Appreciate the detailed instructions and explanations! Thanks!
Here it is!! 😳💪
Raising that Playback buffering at 6:49 is causing a delay with your play button on preview. Most people don't realize that its delaying the time they take to hear the audio start to play and its making users switch from Vegas 20 back to 19 and older to avoid it.
On every recent upgrade, including 21, I've come back to your "fix crashing" vids on Vegas Pro and mirroring your settings always fixes my issues. Thanks mate! Cheers :)
i had to sub cause man you explant well and i actually learn thanks
Good to see u back Josh
Thanks, always appreciate these videos
Worked for me, thanks Josh!!
Bro what the heck, Your videos are super damn useful lol Thanks man 👍🏽
Dynamic RAM preview will not afect the Vegas performance because is solely used for Dynamic preview that is created only when you press Shift+B in all Vegas version since Vegas 5.Increasing this will only affect how many seconds of Dynamic preview you can pre buffer in ram.Just try ! For exemple If You have enough RAM and you set this to 60 GB, Vegas will pre buffer about 40 sec in 4k , and if you alocate only 6 GB Vegas will pre buffer only 4-5 sec ( only when you press Shift+B)
Yea I got 32 GB of Ram but keep it way low. Back in the day I used to turn it higher on older PC's and would have an effect or applied to a clip and would constantly use Shift-B. I can't even remember last time I had to use it since I got a decent PC now. i9 processor, 3070ti, 32gb Ram :)
it really helped me, thanks!!!
Thank you for the information on this program I was having trouble getting it to work correctly thank you
Didn't even know Pro 20 was out, time to try it out with a trial. Remember needing to do something to fix black screen renders when not highlighted, not a issue anymore?
I still highlight everything to this day because of this😂 you an OG too
THANKS FOR THIS IV BEEN SEARCHING FO SOOO LONG
Was having weird glitches where my Display glitched, not just even the Vegas window the whole display but following this tutorial completely fixed it! Thankyou!
Thank you sooooo much for this videos!!
Thanks for the advice. I wish there were more videos on how to really use Vegas Effects.
Thanks, Josh! My 4K footage was mega-juddery and selecting Enable Legacy AVC Coding did the trick for me :)
Man, I'm not sure which suggestion fixed my problem, but it is 100% better! My preview screen was so laggy I couldn't really use it. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
thanks man!
Thank you.
thx so much, love u
Magix should put you on the payroll, 20 and 19 were crashing so bad with my working with mp4 files from my bgh1, that I was getting ready to switch to another editor. Tried some of your tweaks and man I am back in business, thanks for all your great tutorials Josh.
Ha thanks for the compliment! Glad you got things working!
Great tips. Thanks. But you really ought to put your final tip first as it reset everything I did and I had to go through and do it all again.
Thank you for this fantastic tutorial and explanations. Your video was a lifesaver. I followed everything you said on the video. At first, I dismissed it since it didn’t help this weird problem I was having with mp4 files I had.
On a lot of the clips, I was getting the random green screen and vertical black bars that would pop randomly on the preview window and I render it. I watched another video that fixed that problem. But later in the day, I ran into another problem. When I rendered the video, the video render fine, but when I played the video on VLC or windows media player, it play for 10 seconds and the video footage freezes, but audio keeps playing. I was rendering as mp4 file. I did render the other file extension and that didn’t give me issues. I was seeing it was mp4 problem.
I uninstall and reinstall Vegas. By doing that it fixed the rendering issue, but I had the green screen and black vertical glitch again. At that point I watch your video. At the part at 2:50 when you explained the check boxes for AVC/HEVC in preferences in I/O tab, my default was only HEVC checked. I was starting to get suspicious and started to toggle those settings. When I unchecked HEVC, I noticed it got worse with green screen and black bars. So that’s when I checked both AVC and HEVC boxes it solved not only the green/black bar problem, but also the rendering issue.
Sorry for the very long post, but thank you so much for the explanation with the settings. Otherwise I wouldn’t be able to use it for editing majority the mp4 files I have ❤
THANKS BUD
Update : MAR 22 2023 - GoPro Video HEVC now works smooth !!! - in Vegas Pro 20 - 1) after GP20 update + 2) Unchecking File I/O Enable Legacy HEVC 3) Video Threads 32
2:00 After buying vegas pro 20 I was searching this option all the time because I was used to vegas 18 but couldnt find it even with the help of google. Thank you so much! Now I can sleep peacefully
Thanks a lot for the video it helps pro 19 too. I check your helpful videos since a long time.
I saw you use the RTX too, may I ask what settings you use for NVIDIA? There’re some videos about it but most of them are different and confusing, because its mainly for gaming! Or are settings for gaming and video editing are the same?
Thanks a lot for your tutorial But I would suggest to anyone following it step by step, do the LAST step FIRST since it will revert all the changes you just did by following it. Not sure why the creator didn't get us to do that first tbh...
He explained what it does if u have problems. Never said to actually o it lol
@@ShadowkingX he actually DOES say "You definitely want to check the box and hit 'yes'"
If your vegas crashes every 5 minutes then I suggest you update all your hardware drivers. The audio drivers did it for me. Also the tip about upping the dynamic RAM preview max only made my vegas run sluggish because apparently even though I have plenty of RAM the task manager was saying I was using 98% of it. when I downgraded it, vegas would empty out the cache automatically and everything ran fine.
hey ctrl + Shift double clicking on the icon isn't working to clear cashe! is there another method to do this?
@ 6:48 just a heads up... I should have paid attention to what this was. I changed everything like it shows in the video and afterward, editing was a disaster. I use the "enter" key to stop and play my footage for editing quickly and changing the playback buffering and track buffering was A MISTAKE!! If you have an issue with the program not stopping or playing the moment you press the "enter" key (or even manually pressing it in the preview window), change this back to the default setting!
Hi ! Do you know how to customize the outlines/shadows of an opened "windows tool" (setting an FX for example) in vegas pro 20 because however is the color of the interface of my workspace (dark, medium or clear...) the windows tool always have exactly the same color without contouring or shadows... so it's visually a mess, disturbing not to know where is the frontier between the window tool and the global interface. Thank's a lot !
thx and subscribed
when i import clips into my timeline on Vegas 20 my audio is always out of sync. i have enabled legacy AVC decoding in the settings but its still delayed compared to video. any advice?
Ridiculous that my project playback with FX applied rolls smoothly along, set at preview full in Vegas Pro 18 but slows at transition points, etc. in Vegas Pro 20, even with these settings tweaks applied.... I wish I didn't detest the competitors' workflow so badly, so I could just forget about this application after all of these stressful years. Sonic Foundry PLEASE resurrect yourself and re-code this program back to it's glorious early state of flawless stability.
tHANK'S
Everything works, especially free, use until it is too late!Cool! Downloaded))
I've said this before in your other Vegas Videos but keep up the good work! I will inevitably run into something with Vegas and these videos have always helped me! Thank you for your help!
They updated to V21 and followed these tips thank you again!
Great video, but why didn't you tell us to factory reset at the START of the video, I just made all your suggested changes and thought for sure you telling us to do the reset would remove all the changes you just told us to do.
Hey
Scrapyard Films - thank you for your films. would like to see many of them!
I just have a question-
I got Vegas 20 from 19.
does it seem to run slower than 19?? or have I done something wrong?
see your video and fixed the same things as you
thanks
Henrik
Can someone please help. Everytime I put videos on my timeline, it just freezes. The frame counter plays the video for a few seconds, and then gets these dots behind the frame number (under the preview), then crashes. I just upgraded and this is bugging the hell out of me
Hey Josh, can you do an Optimize video on Vegas 21? Just to make sure I'm setting mine perfectly! Thanks!
Hi, I just purchased Vegas pro 20. The video is frozen on the timeline although the audio will play. any suggestions? thanks in advance.
Man these worked amazing man but that recent update they did has been causing a lot of crashes even with these changes. Super frustrating.
great tips - I am having a keyboard lag, which I've not had before - like a 1-1.5 sec delay for example when I hit the spacebar to the timeline playing? if anyone knows a fix for that, I would love too know?
M
My Vegas Pro is not showing my GPU in GPU acceleration of video processing. Pls help me to fix it
my plugin tab wont load in not the fx tab either someone help
tnx ;)
Gpu Acceleration windows presentation keeps switching back.
I can't drag and drop in Vegas Pro 20 and it's driving me nuts. Tried just about everything you can find online but nothing seems to work. Any ideas?
Anyone else having issues in 20 displaying to a second monitor. I can pull the window over to my other 1080p monitor and then resize it manually. But if I just click the button to display on that monitor it keeps pumping out a 4k video onto a 1080 monitor.... All I can see is the upper left hand corner of a 4k video on a 1080 monitor. Never had this problem in 19, but I can't seem to fix this problem in 20. How about you guys?
3:47 I record to HEVC with Action! - I use 2 audio tracks (game and voice). I have to turn legacy decoding off, otherwise Vegas will not play/see my second audio track.
which version is better and stable without crashing or stop working suddenly
I think pro 13 is good one
I've been a big fan of 19 because it supports the latest hardware but 20 has been great so far. You may never get a program that doesn't crash sometimes. All editors do it. VEGAS acknowledges that their program has some stability issues but are actively working to reduce them every single update.
@@ScrapyardFilms okay l m gona try it 20 pro
@@ScrapyardFilms thank you so much 💗
I had Vegas 12 running perfect on my pc back in the day. I skipped Vegas 13 and went onto Magix 14 which I found unstable. I wasn't impressed with Magix taking over Sony, but Vegas 17 ran really well for me and I'm now using Vegas 19 which is great too (after I did some tweeks).
I think a lot of Vegas problems (and editing suites in general) depend on the individual components of your hardware, so stability can be very subjective.
I'd upgrade from V13 though (that is now very old). I'd try and find something like Vegas 17 or 18 on the cheap. Humble Bundle sometimes do great bargain bundles with Magix software that can include Vegas Edit, and Steam sometimes sell Vegas cheaply in their sales.
Possible to do a video on setting up 3D render passes in vegas?
I did Do the last Step "Shift & CTRL" But the Window Don't open on my side But opens Vegas 20 normally Can anyone help me out with this?
Josh we neeeed you for Vegas 22 !
Hi Josh, I implemented your recommendations. However, when I set my audio buffers up like you say, I get a delay when hitting the start/stop button. Do you have any idea what the reason is? I work with an AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX and 64 GB RAM and the Microsoft Soundmapper. Thanks for your work!
Likely this is because of the increased buffer size filling up... which might cause a slight delay...
Just don’t understand it, I upgraded to Pro 20 from Pro 14 and everything seems to be so much laggier and much more problems. Really miss using the Pro 14
Hello, I had a problem with the rendering of the video in Vegas 20. After watching your video, the problems are over. Thank you very much for your help :-)
Good to see you back! How is the little one?
Glad to be making videos when I can! He's doing absolutely amazing. Almost 2 years old now. Crazy how time's flying. Work has also prevented me from making as many videos as I'd like but I should be able to get a bit more out over the next few months. Thanks for asking!
How are you doing?
@@ScrapyardFilms doing ok! Life here in Poland was a little different a few months ago with what is going on in Ukraine. Outside of fuel prices (and and everything else going up), we are well! One thing about VP20 though, those of us who have BorisFX Continuum Complete 2022 can not use the FX Browser where you can actually play back the video. A workaround will be coming from Boris, but it will be a static image, bummer. Vegas and Boris are working on it, so I will wait until they get it working for even trying the trial version.
Again, enjoy the little one while you can. Time does go by quickly. Take many photos and videos. Then you can him when he brings a young lady over that he likes. Pull out the ol' family video album!
we are in version 20... and vegas still crashes and still have this preview lag issue... is ridiculous... thanks for the videos, but this don't fix anything. editing the SAME videos with premiere don't have lag at all
ye well real smart motion blur /RSMB is pain in the ass for rendering it worked perfect in old versions but now impossible to render without crash
Just now Reinstalled VP20 MAY 11- Holding down CTL+ SHT + Dbl Clk Desktop Icon - Program launches - No VP Prompt popping up to reset Factory Values - possibly as this is new install!!
I'd pay good money to just buy a PC that I can work on straight away with out all this "tuning" ... I paid for Vegas Pro 20 but it's ridiculous I have to set it up.
Damn, I followed that last step and it undid everything else you featured in the video. Maybe show that first next time around?
once i started to import my vid/audio clips instead of dragging them in haven't had any problems since
I always import rather than drag and drop... it's a bit more inconvenient but Vegas seams more stable that way.
Do videos render faster if you create a video proxy?
edit: nevermind, googled it to validate my info and it turns out I was thinking of something different lol (in the bottom paragraph), this is the answer: proxy files are for editing/preview only; it converts your videos into a different format (which is why proxy files are so big) that is easier on resources/more compatible to reduce lag whilst editing on timeline and the preview, BUT when rendering it uses the actual original high quality file. so no, proxy files don't help rendering time, just the interface being sluggish whilst you work on a project if your hardware is struggling or the video you're using is some janky af format. what I found DOES make videos render faster is using VouKoder for the nvidia AVC/nvenc h264 encoder, as it cut my render times by 1/3 by somehow doing black magic to utilise my GPU more when compared to the Magix AVC :P
leaving this here since it was originally what I wrote before fact checking myself:
I believe that's so you can have a proxy server do the render work for you? i.e. a separate computer. it's mostly for when you have multiple people doing multiple projects: you make their workstations good enough to edit on to save cost, and a balls-to-the-wall computer with like 128 cpu cores and 8 GPUs dedicated to just rendering out projects, meaning they can edit then hit render then jump straight onto editing another project with no downtime... at least that's what I'm guessing, might also be for a data storage NAS that's a computer dedicated to storing data using RAID on multiples HDD/SSD for faster access/data loss prevention, aka redundancy (the simplest way raid works is multiple drives have the same data so if one fails you still have backups and/or faster load+access times by reading the data off multiple slow drives simultaneously. or you can add parity drives in other raid configs if you have more than 3 drives to better utilise space)
Do it for vegas pro 21!! :DD
For some reason SOny Movie Studio 16 does not do a very good job at all load balancing rendering across Ryzen's 32 threads. It's kind of abysmal how littl ei takes advantage of all this processing power on my 7950x. It's 10x faster for sure than on my FX8350... but for the moneyI put into this and the horsepower it has, it should be 30x because it's leaving a lot of horsepower on the table. My video preview ram is 32gb (I have 128gb), using NVENC on a Nvidia 3070 with GPU rendering turned on, with maximum threads on 28 (which works a bit better than setting it on 24, 32, or 48.
That's not what the Dynamic RAM Preview does. You can't assign RAM to an application - that's what the operating system does. The Dynamic RAM Preview is a specific kind of preview (you select a part of the timeline and render it to memory) and all you're doing with the setting is reserve memory for that. Memory that Vegas cannot use for any other purpose. Despite what so many RUclips videos say, this doesn't give you more memory, it takes it away.
Just tried Vegas 20, since it was my favorite video editor I was hopping a very strong software. But sadly it is buggy as soon you make a medium project with only 2 tracks in 4k and 2 audios. It is choppy on preview (even draft on) AND more problematic it is choppy in rendering... Exported xml in Resolve and it's smooth... Game over... I've tried many things but still choppy.
i just came here to say thankyou for the Video but im starting to hate sony vegas mannnnnnnnnnnn bro cause i been dealing wit this for years and im just fed up with the crashes. great software tho
your last step should be first lol had to do all the changes AGAIN after resetting xD
The audio one crashed my vegas... what? Oh, ok, it's vegas after all. Everything else helped a lot, thanks!
Vegas 19 worked great with no lag. Then I upgraded to 20 and when Im editing and hit play, theres a slight lag when I hit stop (audio plays for at least 1 second before stopping). I changed all the pieces you said in your video and still no fix. Any thoughts?
Hi, I have the same - have you found a fix?
Wondering about this as well. I used a few of the recommendations in this video to combat the freezing issue I had when rendering, but now have a 1 second delay in my video preview
Hi, I’ve just fixed this. Set the audio buffer sliders (audio devices) back to their lowest settings. M
@@techietaff5782 I’ll look for that when I start my next one, thanks!
@@techietaff5782 thx bud! appreciate it!
Dynamic ram is ONLY used for pre-rendering, nothing else. It does not impact available ram for the program in any other way. It is only used in building a dynamic ram preview. The program was not scripted to reallocate the DRP for any other function.
Finnaly someone who explains what and why he does something and not like other shitheads who only list the things and f*ck up your vegas completely with some options
another year another how to stop vegas from crashing video. Vegas 13 has never crashed for me. Every version after has. Im demoing 20 now, but have little hopes for it and likely going to swtich to Davinci which I really didnt want to do but may well have too anoyingly as 13 isnt even going to work on my new PC build more than likely. Cant have projects and exports crash consitently. I will try all the steps in this video and see. Thanks
flac files dont work with 20, ffs. so far 2k go pro is ok. mp4 files are crashing it. GO BACK TO VER 13, NO ISSUES. Also, ver 13 is really not that much different so I may just stick with 13
Can this setting work on 19 also?
Yep!
@@ScrapyardFilms What's the difference between Vegas 20 and Vegas Post versions?
Disregard the question, I found the comparison on the upgrade at the Vegas Creative page, duh lol. Thanks.
Ha glad you found the answer! I just got to seeing your question
Really, I'd like to see less crrp in Vegas, not more. RFix the bugs, and make the controls just a little easier to grab an d move. Everything is so tiny and fiddly to resize, you get down to trying to hit a 4 pixel high zone with your mouse pointer. Its very frustrating.
Free floating Window management is terrible, unless you got 3 monitors which seem like a necessity. One for the time line, one for the preview window, and one for Window File Explorer and your tranitions window.
What I want to know is does it do a better job at making full use of multithreaded multicore processors like my 7950x than Sony Movie Studio 16 would. Movie Studio uses all cores/threads, but it really doesn't do a good job at using all the cores even close to their maximum potenial to speed things up. A few cores are saturated at 100% bottlenecking things while other cores are at 50%, and the vast majority are at 15% (as an example).
still crashing after versions and versions, tired of this
😅
I thought by now Vegas Pro 20 would have done with lagging. I switched to Filmora 11, better choice people. I am done with Vegas.
Too many issues with Vegas.
why do we have to make it fast and less likely to crash? let them make it right once and for all!
Theres a 20!? I just wasted money on 19 after getting a discount from using 18 for so long ☠☠
If you just bought it it probably came with 20, no? Anyway no big changes from 19 yet.
You must not have "just wasted money on 19". They've been advertising buy 19 and get 20 since July 12.
@@Reyfox1 I don't follow the adverts, I only get ads here and there using the software about vegas 19 Edit & Pro. They offered a single license for 19 Pro non steam through Vegas 18 Steam Edition, with a 40% off with unique promo code if I used with within the week, and I did bite that hook. 160$ was a steal. I would of waited if i knew there was a V20.
@@Cyber_Official oh... you didn't say you purchased from Steam. That's a whole other kettle of fish. And dealing with Steam is not like dealing with Vegas directly.
If you now have a non-steam version of Vegas, in the future, your upgrades will cost you less.
At the moment, there is no real rush to get VP20. Can you tell me the difference between it and VP19 and is it worth the cost to you?
I personally can wait for a patch or two to come out. Then Black Friday, Vegas has a sale. That's when I usually buy.
Keep editing with VP19 and wait. There is no rush....
@@Reyfox1 Color Gradin Rework, Coloring AI rework, and the one thing I use a lot of the time official support for Pro Res Raw Editing, no more proxy editing / converting.
Bro really just used ugly sonic in the thumbnail
One thing sometime freezing or crashing Vegas pro your windows need to update too