@@raymondyee2008 you don't need to modify an AK to work in space. Any cartridge based gun would work perfectly fine, they don't need air to work, the propellant mix already contains an oxidiser. The recoil would be troublesome (potentially fatally due to it acting as a thruster) in space, but on the moon it would merely be difficult to deal with.
even though it's fiction and drama, that scene with the astronauts shooting the cosmonauts that were trying to get the translation paper gave quite the feeling of injustice being made.
@@stephendosson246dude. You cant exhale all the Air out of your Body. You even have "air" in your Blood. Im pretty sure you will not even last one second in the vacuum of space. Your body is designed to exist in a pressurised enviroment. If you take this pressure away you will just "explode". Have you ever seen a marshmallow in a vacuum chamber?
The moment i notice unregistered astronaut outside of the base, i will immediately SCRAMBLE because it's either a. Your colleague gone mad b. Stranger in emergency c. Stranger causing emergency d. Space ghost
I was losing interest with everybody's lame love triangle drama filling up precious airtime but the arrival of Space Spetsnaz has successfully roped me back in.
fr that love shit is so boring i spammed skip on all the scenes where that lesbians talk with each other (im not homophobic i just dont remember their name)
@@ГеоргийМурзич I'm not into the relationship drama, but that's a stupid take. All straight relationship drama in any show is heterosexual propaganda? See how it makes zero sense.
@@JustSumGuy01 Ye, this scene was a bit mixed for me. Mostly because the breach would have sucked everyone in the room out and the airflow from the entire base would have stopped after 10 seconds. EDIT:( When you dislike your own comment because it was WRONG...
@@doubl3tap51 well I don’t even watch the show, the algorithm brought me it and I read the title and said excuse me what haha, but I feel like they shouldn’t have shot until they saw a weapon. They already had theirs drawn and ready to roll but it would take a lot more time to pick it up and shoulder it in space, at least that’s what I thought when I first saw it
fr why tf it was in a metal box with locks, like, ye americans did wrong too, i got rlly mad when they opened fire but bro why not just put it on the top of the finger of the glove idk
@@doubl3tap51 They should have someone speaking Russian if they were expecting to meet Russians. Trigger-happy bastards killed one unarmed soviet citizen and took prisoner another, and thrashing of their base and killing one of their own serves them right. Next time, given no WW3 happens, there will be more caution on both sides.
@@michaelspencer8024I actually liked that game. It gets a bad rap because I think people were fatigue at the time and more pissed that it was initially bundled with the MW remaster
If _Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare_ wasn't still so brazenly expensive after all these years, I would have gotten it already (when it was released I sadly wasn't able to play it due to health reasons).
Well, ALL empires always don't get how "everyone else dares to think that they're equals to them". So for example that's how missiles in Cuba as answer to missiles in Turkey were "a complete surprise". Mindset of a psychopath and believing into your own propaganda, that's how. Funniest case would be Afghanistan where british, soviets and americans all believe that they're "freeing" locals instead of f//cking off.
@@HR-yd5ib I guess it depends on how pressurized the environment is, they also have to take liberties from a film making perspective since in real life the room would have quickly became cloudy, along with other things you know they do what they can when they can
@@squingussquingle , have you seen what happens if a window breaks on an airplane at high altitude? The air goes out in a second sucking out only things in the immediate vicinity. The pressure difference is only one bar (1kg/cm2).
"Oh you killed my comrade, who died in a horrible way, and you tried to kill me, almost died btw, while we were just trying to communicate. Can I tag along? 🙂"
@@TheACed7 When that woman hit the alarm, it should have shut some emergency bulkheads, sealing each section. They would have died but the rest of the base personnel would survive.
@@TheACed7 Certainly must be, if air pressurised at 1atm blowing through a ~50cm^3 for over a minute is able to evacuate with enough force to pick up an adult male a hurl him threw a window from 5m away. I'm no expert on atmospheric flow dynamics, but the bernoulli equation doesn't quite add up.
@@lachyt5247 It was not over a minute. Maximum 40 seconds. This scene was just edited to last over a minute, because dramatic effect. Let's say, Jamestown has internal volume of 1500 cubic meters with 1 atm athmospheric pressure. The hole where air went out was maximum of 10 centimeters radius. I'd say they lost maximum of 30% of air pressure during that time.
Such a dumb design to not have emergency bulkheads mounted above the windows that could swing down and slam into place in the event of an emergency like this. Let me preface by saying yes, it's a drama TV show, that's fine and I understand, I just want to explain how this would actually go down in real life. First of all, those windows would have been made of at least six layers of glass with a layer of acrylic laminated between each pane. It would need to be that tough in order to be effective at stopping direct micrometeorite impacts or the impact of debris kicked sideways by nearby meteorite impacts on the surface. Second, despite being way thicker, the windows would also have had a backup containment system like I described a second ago, where a plate of metal with a gasket mounted up on a hinge above the door was poised to fall down and cover the window if a breach were to occur, forming an airtight or mostly airtight seal in an emergency which could turn a catastrophe where everyone dies into an accident where people got scared but are okay and can get their shit together in order to repair the problem. In terms of making this work for the show, since it's people trying to get in and not just accidental debris strikes, these systems would still be something the Cosmonauts could overcome. They could have shot all the glass to obscure vision, then climb up close and use an axe to start busting out a window. The people inside could have been panicked and trying to get some kind of defense system operating or communicate to Earth or whatever when the window finally breaches, and instead of some paper increasing the force on the glass enough to widen the hole it could be that a Cosmonaut poked a pry bar in and ripped a bigger chunk of window out. Emergency bulkheads deploy and the window is sealed for a moment, then the Cosmonauts force their way through again by busting the relatively thin metal bulkhead out of the way. You could even still have one of the Americans getting sucked out onto the surface, too.
Might technically be a civilian but astronauts train hard to react quickly in an emergency. Shouldn't freeze like that. Hell even civilian airline pilots would be put on forced leave and go through retraining after something like that. @@jmchdjaimerporkpuedolol3681
@@doxielain2231 look, when someone had a gun pointing at you, would you be reaching something in a box? Cosmonauts they are not dumb, but the writers seem to make them acting stupid in that scene.
@@johnlau8461 if you think the other guy won’t shoot or is in your opinion not dumb enough to shoot and risk a major incident, or if you think “i’m not taking orders from scum like you” ect., ect., then its quite possible you won’t roll over and surrender. Stuff like this happens everyday, and the marines are not space cops and have no legal right to force others to do what they want at gunpoint.
"Mr President, we'd like you to sign off on a moonbase that has absolutely no safety or emergency protocols and that a soviet cosmonaut could break into with a bread knife." "Sure thing, son" *signs requisition form*
USA had no idea that Soviets or anyone could hack the US nuclear infrastructure and use it against them.... One night Regan watched a movie related to this topic and ask his generals a question about this. Laster on investigation revealed that US nuclear infrastructure was completely vulnerable to cyber attacks and had no security at all.
That's not at all how that situation was portrayed. Also, glossing over the whole, hey, let's just not listen to the guys telling us in our language NOT TO MOVE.
In reality id imagine space warfare be more devastating than here on ground, if they get ahold of our sattlites they have control and access to litterly everything only country to be equal to us in space would be Russia but this a opinion be crazy and scary if they was to carry out that.
I think the Russian commander is acting with out orders I mean Moscow must know the USA will not stand for it I mean pathfinder could fire on the Russian base.
Question wouldn´t be millions anymore if such a thing would have happened in reality. We would be talking about billions. Or even everyone and everything. For those who don´t know: even a first strike by the USA with no response from the USSR would have ended up with enough radioactive fallout to make most of earth uninhabitable. That would have been an interesting victory for America - the population of the USA would have a few weeks before dying to radiation sickness. And a lot people in uninvolved nations would have suffered the same fate. Childish games from children playing Kings.
Before that, the Americans captured a Soviet mining complex, then killed one cosmonaut (burned alive) and wounded the second. So... where is the Vault tek office located?
Very typical of Hollywood....I saw Aliens in the theater and the ending with Ripley opening the hatch and ending result was like 10 minutes of air flowing out. There's a reason it's called "explosive decompression". LOL
@@Chicky_Lumps No, it wouldn't. Up where planes fly explosive decompressions do not last minutes before equalising pressures, and in space where the pressure is not _less than_ but literally _zero_ it would be more like a bomb.
@@Andy_M.S.c It would be like a bomb if the glass gave out, but with a coin sized hole wouldn't it behave more like a poked high pressure tire? There's not infinite pressure to cram all the air out the hole at once.
@@Chicky_Lumps The same glass that shattered from a bullet hole is not going to survive the sudden pressure loss, it's going to rip the glass out of it and even if it doesn't, you will be left blind by the cloud of condensation formed as the air drops below its dew point, until you pass out or live long enough to see the environment clear up again, this time because you are at zero pressure and have seconds left. I'm basing most of this on air crashes but if anyone has better knowledge do add.
Graphite could lube it but jeh that depressure stuff bothers me to. Would be intresting to know how vacuum affects the gas impingement system though otherwise i dont see a reason for a rifle not to work in space other than maybe just not cycling if not modified and maybe some problems with the metal due to extreme cold and heat stress. But who knows, some keyboard warriors to enligten me here?
So, couple thing. First, let's be honest they would have run out of oxygen in seconds and all died. Second, how could they not design that base either with smaller thicker windows that couldn't be shot out or some kind of emergency shutters to activate in the event of a breach? There's always a risk of micro meteorites (that can be bigger and faster than bullets) that can do the exact same thing.
Why even have windows? If a submarine doesn't need them, your moon base command center doesn't either. Sure maybe an observation deck to help guide other landers but not the command room for exactly this reason.
@@cpob2013 also all the lunar bases got em to see if a astronaut nearby is in trouble or where in this universe with the soviets it would be important to see if they are gonna do anything
i remember seeing this and knowing EXACTLY what the cosmonaut would do.. but damn im surprised it took so long to depressurize, how much air is in the base lmao
Why would the US not order the marines to maintain guard duty during the conflict. It's pretty obvious that tensions are escalating back on Earth. Buran and Pathfinder is about to have a moon orbit standoff, it's just common sense to be on guard, especially in an isolated position.
It wasn't really a 'conflict' before those Soviet troops fired the first shots. However, the Soviets do seem to have been escalating at every opportunity, so maybe they should have expected this.
@@benrussell-gough1201 did they? They didn’t retaliate when the marines showed up with guns and took the mine back. They only retaliated and escalated after the Americans followed up the mine incident by shooting an unarmed cosmonaut, and instead of returning the other cosmonaut, accepted his defection. As far as the Russians, and international law is concerned, they gave the Americans the opportunity to deescalate, but the Americans not only didn’t take it, but further escalated things. I also want to point out that the mine that caused all this was seized legally, not stolen by the Russians as the Americans have claimed. By hiding the discovery of the mine to prevent the Russians from finding it, they are not ‘staking’ their claim on the mine. So when the Russians ‘stole’ the mine, they did not actually steal it, they seized an unclaimed mine. Bloody hell, I can’t believe I’m defending the Soviets. Need to get my brain bleached.
They should have weapons and spacesuits nearby. It took the marine almost 10 seconds to realize and then just stood there while getting shot at. It's like they don't have a reaction to contact drill. As soon as that weapon came out heck even before that any soldier or marine with combat experience would know threat and suit up rdy to go.
When the glass broke, I was wondering the entire time "did they not install blast shields that can plug the window-hole for this exact reason? Why even HAVE windows then?! Just go with monitors!"
Computers, until recently, were big, heavy things. Without closed-gas fission or plain ass fusion rockets using water propellant, every GRAM counts. As in literally every gram counts. Why do you think the Sea Dragon is so MASSIVE? Because of the tyranny of the rocket equation, that's what. Closed-gas fission or simple fusion rockets with water propellant are far more effective in moving stuff for (comparatively) minimal space requirements, especially if you use helium-3 fusion reactors for your rockets. So, you'll have to skimp on some features, and that includes shutters and really anything more than the basics. Remember, this is literally sent up in a Saturn V rocket, not anything more powerful.
@@TheTrueAdept Your argument can basically be boiled down to "computers used to weigh a lot, so that's why there is a window there instead of a bulkhead." Which is nuts.
but why the have windows on spacestation... daytime +300C nigthtime -200C imposible to therma isolate and imposibel to isolate agaisn radiation of sun.
I'll try to explain why Soviet attacked. From Soviets point of view US took "their" mine (but they knew that in reality it was US who found it, so there was no retaliation of any sort and there is no real reason to fight over it). Later US marines killed one of their cosmonauts and took another one as a hostage (thats what they think after "defection" claim by the US without any prove provided). From Soviets perspective the idea that one of very best could defect is atrocios lie by it roots. And at the same time, Soviets have the intelligence on delivering US nuclear weapons to the Moon (We don't know if its true, but Soviets have to assume worst case scenario) and most likely they know about arming of Space Shuttles and escort for BFR that made it even more suspicious (in real world, USSR thought that Space Shuttle would be used to steal their sattelites and bomb USSR from the orbit). Soviets think that they are under attack and the only reasonable action for them - a preemptive strike in attempt to get their man. It is a fucked up situation, fueled by mistrust, chain of mistakes and lack of communication between involved parties at all levels. And the best part is that at the same time Apollo-Soyuz (or Soyuz-Apollo) mission happens that should bring two countries together and show peaceful intents in space exploration. Unfortunately, we don't know if it is a deliberate distraction, or Soviet plans rapidly changed after the news of dead cosmonaut and another as "a hostage". Their military could think that this mission is a distraction too (But that's just my personal assumption).
Actually satellite stealing really was one of plans of how Space Shuttle would be used (still sounds unrealistic to me considering how long it took to repair Hubble..). The Soviets did believed that Space Shuttle was an orbital bomber and in fact still do: e.g. there was a documentary with an interview of Buran (Soviet Space Shuttle) chief designer made in middle of 00-es where he says that primary objective of Buran was to counter Space Shuttle military usage which he believed Buran did with its single flight (by showing that Space Shuttle can be intercepted). This is also the story that military officers who worked with space-related things during that time will tell you.
@@skipperg4436 The Soviets are also the only (so far as anyone will admit) nation to fire a gun in orbit, having installed a 23mm anti-aircraft gun in their space station in fear of the space shuttle being used to board and capture it. Eventually they decided the threat didn't exist and the gun was pointless weight that could potentially cause an incident if someone got trigger happy/panicked, and they sent it back to earth. But not before test firing it, just to see what would happen.
Completely unrealistic. You don't get this much air out on that big hole with one bar pressure. Even if the whole window blows immediately the effect would be less dramatic. Probably you had enough time to seek safety.
@@boomborgoyari5781 The door is open to the entire base so it would take minute(s) to lose enough air through a single window of half a square meter. They had plenty of time to put a metal panel and flex seal over the breach. The speed limit for air out the breach is the speed of sound and exponentially reduces with distance from it, not the "magic sucking vacuum of doom". The soviets would probably use babushka's cutting board if this happened to them.
Strange that they didn't have a plan or mechanism in place for a crack in the window... like a drop down blast shield or something. It's one thing to not have stuff like that in an Apollo capsule; it's quite another to not have one in a moon base with seemingly little to no weight requirements, which even has a nuclear reactor built-in.
@@danzstuff what? I don’t remember how long it takes in the show, but in reality depressurizing an airlock would take a while. Certainly not seconds as we see in a lot of sci-fi. For reference, the de/repressurization onboard the ISS takes about 8 minutes.
It would take a while yes but then it would not violentry throw about everyone. You cannot have both. A small hole like that would not send someone flying *esspecially* not when holding on in low gravity where they are effectively 10 times as strong for this purpose. @@joelmulder
Millioooons and billiooons of too much air. -Carl To be fair, I haven't watched this show yet, so maybe that room is attached to a much much bigger base to explain all the air, but then the previous comment about doors kinda invalidates that explanation. Just not how depressurization works in a correctly built structure. --references Myth Busters, NASA, The Expanse
@@kozmonauta0515 Actually it isn't. The difference between 1 and 0 bar of pressurisation is not enough to cause the dramatic effect seen in this episode. There's stories in the ISS of small leaks forming on the walls, and astronauts plugging it with their finger while they look for a long term fix, and afterward only having the same mark you have when you use a suction cup on your skin.
No, it would of taken even longer then that... and a hole that big would of been more of an annoyance then "everything get sucked out into space!" nonsense that happens all to often. They would of had plenty of time to get up and put some frigging duct tape onto the hole or put a clip board up to it and then get out and lock the bulk head.
@@TheRyujinLP nope the glass would blow out and an explosive decompression would occur, if the glass can´t survive a bullet it can´t survive a delta p of one atmosphere while compromised by a bullethole
Oh wow, he shot a good grouping for minimum distance shots but with open iron through a glass helmet. I'm impressed. That helmet glass would have been hard to acquire an accurate sight picture. Anyone whose shot with gas masks can support this point.
@@dzhuish4skin997 While both were very disturbing and shouldn’t have happened, I find getting sucked out into an endless void to be waaaay more freaky, but that’s just my opinion
Or sturdy glass to protect against projectiles (whether bullets, or a book that someone threw because they're mad). Then again, I don't know much about space so don't take any advice from me.
Would they have engineered any large “glass” windows on a moon base? The engineers would have had to account for the possibility of micrometeorite impacts that go a hell of a lot faster than any rifle round. Just saying.
While everyone debates window cracks and air loss, I'd like to know why the internal airlock door was hinged on the vulnerable side, so you have to fight to pull it closed. Hinge it on the safe side and the rush of outgoing air pulls it closed for you
I would say the only reason it's underrated is because it's on AppleTV, if it wasn't behind a subscription paywall more people would watch it (myself included, I've just been watching out of context clips on RUclips). I don't know anyone who has a subscription or any of the shows they even have apart from this one
I think they overdramatized the depressurization (though watching that guy get knocked out the window and just kind of ker-chunking on the ground was pretty vivid.) In reality, the air probably would have all gone out pretty quickly, followed by all the people in the room passing out. The force of the air doing so would have been a bit like the water draining from a bathtub. The papers and stuff would have been blown out the window, but I doubt the people or the equipment would have. Also, big fail on them having the air-tight door open, that's like a major safety fail. All doors in that base should remain closed when not in use to prevent the entire place depressurizing in an emergency. Also, I wonder what Gordo was actually seeing when he was seeing those red lights in the first season. I wonder if they'll ever pay that off or if they'll drop it.
Massively. It would take minutes maybe longer to actually depressurize. Keep in mind the pressure difference here is just 1 atm. That is not significantly more than in a high altitude flight and less than your typical car tire to the outside. A opening that small could easily take a minute probably more. And may very well have simply been closed by the paper. What is shown here is explosive decompression. That would have required the entire window to be blown out instantly minimum. Probably not even then. And in that case the airstream would not have gone on for anywhere close to that.
One atmosphere of pressure would not produce an indoor hurricane if a window was breached. You'd probably be able to walk up and cover it with something.
The problem with escalation is that, the other side isn't likely going to be happy just getting even when its their move. How did those Soviet cosmonauts get shot? Through their own stupidity and being some place that was already claimed by the U.S., and after the U.S. had already demonstrated that it intended to chase off anyone who jumped their claims, with guns if necessary. The retaliation won't stop here. The question is will it stop before both nations are effectively wiped off the Moon.
@RingSight91 Comunism isn't just a economical system, for URSS it was also a way of seeing life, I think the reason they were occupying the US site was because they didn't had seem it as a "property", but as a resource anyone should have access to. In real life at the current time we can say the moon don't have a owner and no country have territory there.
@RingSight91 Soviets know that US killed one of their man and think that they took another as a hostage. They also believe that US is trying to get nuclear weapons to the Moon, so there is no reason for them to believe that all what happened before was an accident. I think that combination of events moved Soviets to believe that they are under attack and US is trying to force them off the Moon, so they decided to escalate situation even further. Don't forget that for Soviets all of Jamestown crew are criminals. It looks more like a rescue operation than a retaliation strike. And as Adm. Adama from BSG once said: "I'm getting my men".
One thing space movies tend to get wrong is the strength of depressurization, at worst, I'd guess a breach the size of the initial hole would feel like a brisk breeze, certainly not strong enough to move anything substantial, like those boxes, and definitely not strong enough to blow a man through the window. Also, not having a means of sealing the window is a critical design flaw, have you ever seen pictures of the ISS windows? They all have mechanically operated hatches. Granted, the primary purpose of those is to protect the glass from impacts when they're not in use, but I'm pretty sure they can at least slow a leak long enough to get a patch up. But what the hell, it makes for dramatic cinematography if you don't know or can overlook the physics and poor design logic.
Something to remember is that a lot of that stuff is now weighed by moon gravity. I weigh 150lbs, and am 6'2"... on the moon i'd weigh about 25lbs (comparatively, my mass hasn't changed but the gravity has less pull), but I'm still 6'2". which means I have a lot less weight compares to my equivalent surface area, and less friction on the ground holding me in place.... could imagine a "light breeze" being a little difficult to fight against until i got ahold of something to actually grab onto.
That makes some difference, but not all that much, your mass remains the same, as does inertia, even in zero g a light breeze can only impart so much velocity to an object with your mass.
I do not think that you quite understand how it works either. It would be much stronger than this and their skin would start to evaporate also. This is more akin to a planes rapid decompression. The moon does not have any substantial atmosphere and that is vastly different from what would be in a moon base simulating Earth's atmosphere
You still have the same muscle strength. So while yes stuff would go flying they would easily be able to move about when grabbing onto stuff. More easily than in an airplane even. @@officialbazzargaming
@@MrStuntman "their skin would start to evaporate also" You don't know what you are talking about. This is nothing more than a 20th century sci fi myth. In reality your skin is more than tough enough to withstand a vacuum. There have been plenty of studies. The danger is basically the same as at 40k in an airplane. Loss of useful conciousness after 9-15 seconds once the deoygenated blood reaches the brain. Though if someone can get you to safety any exposure below 90 seconds is harmless and you would be fine after only a couple minutes- "This is more akin to a planes rapid decompression" It would be yes. What is shown here is not realistic rapid decompression. And rapid decompression wouldn't happen from a single bullet hole. Neither should the rest of the window break apart considering how thick it is. They also should be able to move about just fine. Keep in mind they are much lighter while having the same muscle strength. They really should not be struggling at all to get to the door and close it. Even if they magically have enough air in there for the decompression to last such an absurd amount of time. Nothing in this scene really makes sense lol though it's still pretty cool.
It Was made of thick layers of glass but you still have to have some weight savings with transporting modules up there. There thick glass but they got shot at in one place several times. I theorize even thicker panes would fail if because its a pressurized air divider and under extreme pressures.
Aren't they supposed to have shutters, like the windows in the ISS? And isn't that window supposed to be bullet proof, to protect it from moon dust and possible debris? Just sayin'
Fixing any breach like that is pretty simple. You could literally put a plastic binder on the hole and it would stop the breach because of the air pressure
the guy who flew out of the window died a few seconds after he touched the lunar surface imagine his perspective you begin to blur a second after you flew out and then passed out after he hit the soil a few seconds later and 90 seconds after he lost oxygen he died
@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming Well, no. The air pressure would not be able to just lift a male body up and throw it out of the breach, even with 1/6th lunar gravity.
@@lazarusboi6289 Simply for the room they are in (not including Jamestown): Air density is ~1kg/m³ That means, the 8x8x4 room they are in has 256kg of air in it. For anyone next to the window (less effect further from the window) so that air is now pushing on them to get out. Yes, it can lift a male body out.
@@wyattpruitt6965 some modification probably still required. While guns can shoot in space, moon dust is very abrasive and lack of atmosphere can cold weld metal parts together.
@@michaelhamar3305 when makarov said “no Russian” originally he meant don’t speak Russian so people think the Americans shot up the airport I’m pretty sure
What you want is a spray foam that hardens automatically to fix a leak Glass not likely to be used due to its shattering. Polycarbonate much more likely.
One of the things that struck my mind. I wonder what kind of bends the guy got sucked out of the window if he somehow managed to survive. I wonder if the Ivans would even care but... oh well.
Someone want to check if the windows are actually supposed to withstand the speed of bullets? I mean, space is filled with shit flying really fast. Don't you think NASA would invest in blast doors for the windows
No it wouldn't, the math doesn't add up. This is actually far too short for the decompression, and there wouldn't be enough force to throw a man out of the window.
@@mkd2839 Really? Now you've got me thinking lol. I'm actually curious to see the math on that, because I've read that rapid decompression events in commercial airliners with a hole the size of the airliners window (such as Southwest Flight 1380) that are over in a second or 2. Although, I understand the actual equalization of interior pressure to exterior atmosphere does take a longer time (as in minutes) as the airflow decreases with pressure and volume. The graph would look like an inverse square with the majority of the drama where the force is great enough for people to actually blown out happens in the first second or so. I might have to relearn calculus for this😂😂
@@conflict314 Based on the math others worked out, I think the reason why really is the fact that bulkhead doors weren't closed so you're working with the entire base's volume of air.
@@conflict314 Its a 30-50% bigger pressure difference between a lunar module and the vacuum of space, and a 7.62mm hole is a lot smaller than the window of an airliner. Im not doing the math but intuitively Id suspect 10-45 seconds before people started getting hypoxic in that room and a couple minutes before the pressure is too low to sustain life
@wills.5762 yeah i agree, the math adds up, but it definitely wouldn't cause a guy to get sucked out like a minute after hull penetration like in the scene
Ingesting this is the guy most likely died of exposure, but not from the cold but burns. Do to the lack of atmosphere and the long day night cycle(around 29 days) regolith in the sun is extremely hot more then enough to boil the water in his body.
7.62 is big round and probably modified to ap and close shots I mean have you heard of the hesh ammo round it barley scratches the outside then it explodes (no pen) but the inside of the armor a comes spall and decimates the inside while the armor is weakened
This movie seems pretty cool, from the small amount of scenes I've seen so far. I love how whoever made this actually understands how sound waves propagate through a medium, or a lack of medium.
space ak
Our suspicions have been confirmed. So I was correct they got modified AKs for use in space.
AK-94
SpaceK-47
moonbase alpha
@@raymondyee2008 you don't need to modify an AK to work in space. Any cartridge based gun would work perfectly fine, they don't need air to work, the propellant mix already contains an oxidiser.
The recoil would be troublesome (potentially fatally due to it acting as a thruster) in space, but on the moon it would merely be difficult to deal with.
What's next? Moonrines VS Spacesnaz?
I like that
@@handsoap6246 This made my day
there on the dark side of the moon and observing the activity from near by
Those space commies will be needing a change of spacesuit when the SAStronauts arrive...
No, soviet kosmodesant (spaceborne troops).
Or Voiska Kosmicheskogo Basirovanya (space-based troops)/ KDV - Kosmicheskie Desantnye Voiska (space landing forces)/Sily kosmicheskogo naznacheniya - kosmnaz (Space forces)/ Group " K" or "L"
The US and USSR will find peace once they team up against the Nazis on the dark side of the moon.
Exactly
or the soviets and nazis divide space poland and THEN fight each other.
@@iplaygames8090 Reind me, space Poland already divide space Czech Republic with nazis?
That will literally be the coolest thing ever
I really hope that’s season 3.
even though it's fiction and drama, that scene with the astronauts shooting the cosmonauts that were trying to get the translation paper gave quite the feeling of injustice being made.
What if it were a weapon in the box? Put yourself into the shoes of that moon marine. What are you supposed to do?
@@admiralsand even if it had been a weapon they would have had time to neutralise threat before it escalated
@@Penguig and they did, by shooting him. Be very difficult and dnagerpus for two dudes in space suits to wrestle each other
@@Eye0fTheSt0rm his point was youd see the weapon being pulled out of the box and have well more than enough time to shoot if it was a weapon.
@@chromaticturtle8657 depends. Shit happens way quicker than internet commandos think.
You know when background characters like that start talking too much one of them is about to get clapped.
The second they were having a conversation I was just waiting for something in that room to go wrong
I know the feeling.
When you see a group of people on a mission or space base talking and doing projects in this show, you know something is about to go down.
"I love repartee. Usually means there's a battle scene coming" Dwight K Shrute
john died
He died in seconds but at least got the honor of the first and only person to to touch the surface of the moon with bare skin
😂😂😂😂
I’m sure he was thinking the same thing
Technically that would be deke
You a survive a vacuum for a couple of minutes without serious damage. Just need to exhale all the air out your lungs first
@@stephendosson246dude. You cant exhale all the Air out of your Body. You even have "air" in your Blood. Im pretty sure you will not even last one second in the vacuum of space. Your body is designed to exist in a pressurised enviroment. If you take this pressure away you will just "explode". Have you ever seen a marshmallow in a vacuum chamber?
The moment i notice unregistered astronaut outside of the base, i will immediately SCRAMBLE because it's either
a. Your colleague gone mad
b. Stranger in emergency
c. Stranger causing emergency
d. Space ghost
e. Salesman trying to get you to change your cable provider.
f. the IRS
g. Dodgy speaker salesman. "psst, hey, want to buy some speakers?."
@@thedoomrunnerxl damnit. Comcast must’ve made it to the moon!
h. Tommy Lee Jones
I was losing interest with everybody's lame love triangle drama filling up precious airtime but the arrival of Space Spetsnaz has successfully roped me back in.
episode 10 will be the 1998 game battlezone :D
fr that love shit is so boring i spammed skip on all the scenes where that lesbians talk with each other (im not homophobic i just dont remember their name)
welp, that was surely boring but western shows can't exist without homosexual propaganda
i like your inaccurately caucasian egyptian pharaoh profile pic
@@ГеоргийМурзич I'm not into the relationship drama, but that's a stupid take. All straight relationship drama in any show is heterosexual propaganda? See how it makes zero sense.
2:09 first man that touches the surface of the moon without a spacesuit
Edit: he probably died inmediately after
Still counts as a first at something.
Hero!
@@michaelspencer8024 I mean, though in real life, he'd look worse for being spaced like that.
@@JustSumGuy01 Ye, this scene was a bit mixed for me. Mostly because the breach would have sucked everyone in the room out and the airflow from the entire base would have stopped after 10 seconds.
EDIT:( When you dislike your own comment because it was WRONG...
Does Deke's dead body count? Unless he was buried in his suit
That’s what happens when you shoot someone who was reaching for something that wasn’t a weapon
@@doubl3tap51 well I don’t even watch the show, the algorithm brought me it and I read the title and said excuse me what haha, but I feel like they shouldn’t have shot until they saw a weapon. They already had theirs drawn and ready to roll but it would take a lot more time to pick it up and shoulder it in space, at least that’s what I thought when I first saw it
fr why tf it was in a metal box with locks, like, ye americans did wrong too, i got rlly mad when they opened fire but bro why not just put it on the top of the finger of the glove idk
@@doubl3tap51 They should have someone speaking Russian if they were expecting to meet Russians. Trigger-happy bastards killed one unarmed soviet citizen and took prisoner another, and thrashing of their base and killing one of their own serves them right. Next time, given no WW3 happens, there will be more caution on both sides.
honestly why would those two cosmonauts bring out a weapon if they're both outnumbered
@@s730h1 You'd rather they left the injured one on the surface?
NEW CALL OF DUTY: RED MOON.
Call of Duty: Space Warfare
Infinite warfare
@@michaelspencer8024I actually liked that game. It gets a bad rap because I think people were fatigue at the time and more pissed that it was initially bundled with the MW remaster
That would actually be dope
If _Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare_ wasn't still so brazenly expensive after all these years, I would have gotten it already (when it was released I sadly wasn't able to play it due to health reasons).
I guess when you start bringing marines into space, the Soviets are going to start sending Red Army soldiers, who coulda guessed
Literally the first squad of cosmonauts were top aces of ussr air force.
Well, ALL empires always don't get how "everyone else dares to think that they're equals to them". So for example that's how missiles in Cuba as answer to missiles in Turkey were "a complete surprise". Mindset of a psychopath and believing into your own propaganda, that's how. Funniest case would be Afghanistan where british, soviets and americans all believe that they're "freeing" locals instead of f//cking off.
@@nihil2157 and where was that argument going, dear?
@@nihil2157 and the first squad of Maericans were jet fighters too. You know why? They are experts on jets and low pressure places
@@BasedMilitarist6624 And in Faith 7, Gordon Cooper demonstrated he WAS the best pilot anyone ever saw.
I love how the paper buildup temporarily stops the air from being sucked out at 1:24
😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣
if the hole is tiny this could work. But overall the decompression event was not depicted even remotely accurately.
@@HR-yd5ib I guess it depends on how pressurized the environment is, they also have to take liberties from a film making perspective since in real life the room would have quickly became cloudy, along with other things you know they do what they can when they can
@@squingussquingle , have you seen what happens if a window breaks on an airplane at high altitude? The air goes out in a second sucking out only things in the immediate vicinity. The pressure difference is only one bar (1kg/cm2).
@@HR-yd5ib Yeah, I donät want to see human popcorn thank you :)
Ngl when that cosmonaut woke up and asked to defect I could not stop laughing.
Did he mean it? Bc I didn’t understand it
"Oh you killed my comrade, who died in a horrible way, and you tried to kill me, almost died btw, while we were just trying to communicate. Can I tag along? 🙂"
@@michaelspencer8024 Maybe to avoid being executed for possibly giving out info?
He cannot defect in spacesuit he'll freeze up
He probably had good reasons to defect that we'll later learn
so much air in such a small room
The corridor’s hatch weren’t closed so ... a lot of air in almost all of Jamestown , yeah.
@@TheACed7 When that woman hit the alarm, it should have shut some emergency bulkheads, sealing each section. They would have died but the rest of the base personnel would survive.
@@TheACed7 Certainly must be, if air pressurised at 1atm blowing through a ~50cm^3 for over a minute is able to evacuate with enough force to pick up an adult male a hurl him threw a window from 5m away. I'm no expert on atmospheric flow dynamics, but the bernoulli equation doesn't quite add up.
@@lachyt5247 It was not over a minute. Maximum 40 seconds. This scene was just edited to last over a minute, because dramatic effect. Let's say, Jamestown has internal volume of 1500 cubic meters with 1 atm athmospheric pressure. The hole where air went out was maximum of 10 centimeters radius. I'd say they lost maximum of 30% of air pressure during that time.
Such a dumb design to not have emergency bulkheads mounted above the windows that could swing down and slam into place in the event of an emergency like this.
Let me preface by saying yes, it's a drama TV show, that's fine and I understand, I just want to explain how this would actually go down in real life.
First of all, those windows would have been made of at least six layers of glass with a layer of acrylic laminated between each pane. It would need to be that tough in order to be effective at stopping direct micrometeorite impacts or the impact of debris kicked sideways by nearby meteorite impacts on the surface.
Second, despite being way thicker, the windows would also have had a backup containment system like I described a second ago, where a plate of metal with a gasket mounted up on a hinge above the door was poised to fall down and cover the window if a breach were to occur, forming an airtight or mostly airtight seal in an emergency which could turn a catastrophe where everyone dies into an accident where people got scared but are okay and can get their shit together in order to repair the problem.
In terms of making this work for the show, since it's people trying to get in and not just accidental debris strikes, these systems would still be something the Cosmonauts could overcome. They could have shot all the glass to obscure vision, then climb up close and use an axe to start busting out a window. The people inside could have been panicked and trying to get some kind of defense system operating or communicate to Earth or whatever when the window finally breaches, and instead of some paper increasing the force on the glass enough to widen the hole it could be that a Cosmonaut poked a pry bar in and ripped a bigger chunk of window out. Emergency bulkheads deploy and the window is sealed for a moment, then the Cosmonauts force their way through again by busting the relatively thin metal bulkhead out of the way. You could even still have one of the Americans getting sucked out onto the surface, too.
Ok, that was a comically long reaction time for seeing a lone russian dude with an AK
The American looked like a civilian, so he was probably frozen with disbelief about everything that was about to happen
Might technically be a civilian but astronauts train hard to react quickly in an emergency. Shouldn't freeze like that. Hell even civilian airline pilots would be put on forced leave and go through retraining after something like that. @@jmchdjaimerporkpuedolol3681
You have seen the whole episode
The russians can barely evacuate their wounded troops in Ukraine. Now, they suddenly have the logistics to get to the moon?!
@@DanaPohlson Sir, its a tv show
Let's just hope the final episode is mostly space stuff and not a bunch of relationship junk, because serious shit is about to go down
That "relationship junk" is what For All Mankind is all about.
@@buckdanny9062 Yeah to a certain extent, but the Danny/Karen and Kelly storylines were unnecessary
@@bjornlillpers498 I bet my ass it wont and will make sense in the future, always does with For All Mankind.
@@buckdanny9062 you joking, right?
im with you, i want more space stuff in the show
So it begins. Moon battle... for a defecting Cosmonaut.
Started by the jarheads opening fire. Let's not forget first causes, okay?
@@doxielain2231 started by understandable confusion. Let's not forget first causes, okay?
@@doxielain2231 look, when someone had a gun pointing at you, would you be reaching something in a box? Cosmonauts they are not dumb, but the writers seem to make them acting stupid in that scene.
@@johnlau8461 if you think the other guy won’t shoot or is in your opinion not dumb enough to shoot and risk a major incident, or if you think “i’m not taking orders from scum like you” ect., ect., then its quite possible you won’t roll over and surrender. Stuff like this happens everyday, and the marines are not space cops and have no legal right to force others to do what they want at gunpoint.
@@johnlau8461 to be fair, I don’t think those Cosmonauts were military personnel. They were probably scientists.
"Mr President, we'd like you to sign off on a moonbase that has absolutely no safety or emergency protocols and that a soviet cosmonaut could break into with a bread knife."
"Sure thing, son" *signs requisition form*
i could see this happen under Trump ^^
@@ricwalker6600 Yeeeah, under Biden it's more likely. The guy even forgets where he is, and what he should say.
@@jkl9984 I mean he's not the guy who literally trew away the "What to do in case of pandemic" protocol book.
USA had no idea that Soviets or anyone could hack the US nuclear infrastructure and use it against them.... One night Regan watched a movie related to this topic and ask his generals a question about this. Laster on investigation revealed that US nuclear infrastructure was completely vulnerable to cyber attacks and had no security at all.
Must've been Trump.
The Union Strikes Back
Underrated comment
Episode 6: Return of the Astronaut
Episode 9: The Rise of Moonwalker
Episode 8: The Last Astronaut
Episode 9: The Blyat Star
US: why are they hostile
Also US: Casually shoots innocent miners trying to show them a letter that they can mine for free
That's not at all how that situation was portrayed.
Also, glossing over the whole, hey, let's just not listen to the guys telling us in our language NOT TO MOVE.
I wonder how many million people are going to have to die over this?
In reality id imagine space warfare be more devastating than here on ground, if they get ahold of our sattlites they have control and access to litterly everything only country to be equal to us in space would be Russia but this a opinion be crazy and scary if they was to carry out that.
I think the Russian commander is acting with out orders I mean Moscow must know the USA will not stand for it I mean pathfinder could fire on the Russian base.
Question wouldn´t be millions anymore if such a thing would have happened in reality. We would be talking about billions. Or even everyone and everything.
For those who don´t know: even a first strike by the USA with no response from the USSR would have ended up with enough radioactive fallout to make most of earth uninhabitable.
That would have been an interesting victory for America - the population of the USA would have a few weeks before dying to radiation sickness.
And a lot people in uninvolved nations would have suffered the same fate.
Childish games from children playing Kings.
@@iantregale7399 Except it's revenge for an act of war committed by the US.
Before that, the Americans captured a Soviet mining complex, then killed one cosmonaut (burned alive) and wounded the second. So... where is the Vault tek office located?
0:50 Ivan: "Say hello to my little friend!"
Say hello to my little comrade
Blyat
What? I suppose when starships and space colonies are real, the space police will be tracking space criminals selling space drugs and space weapons?
"Let me show you its features, mwa-ha-ha!" (C) Jörg Sprave
@@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 Something about your comment is just so funny
I love how it takes 9 days to drain the air from the little room.
Very typical of Hollywood....I saw Aliens in the theater and the ending with Ripley opening the hatch and ending result was like 10 minutes of air flowing out. There's a reason it's called "explosive decompression". LOL
I think it actually would take a long time, but also wouldn't have hurricane forces from such a small hole.
@@Chicky_Lumps No, it wouldn't. Up where planes fly explosive decompressions do not last minutes before equalising pressures, and in space where the pressure is not _less than_ but literally _zero_ it would be more like a bomb.
@@Andy_M.S.c It would be like a bomb if the glass gave out, but with a coin sized hole wouldn't it behave more like a poked high pressure tire? There's not infinite pressure to cram all the air out the hole at once.
@@Chicky_Lumps The same glass that shattered from a bullet hole is not going to survive the sudden pressure loss, it's going to rip the glass out of it and even if it doesn't, you will be left blind by the cloud of condensation formed as the air drops below its dew point, until you pass out or live long enough to see the environment clear up again, this time because you are at zero pressure and have seconds left.
I'm basing most of this on air crashes but if anyone has better knowledge do add.
In the running for most unrealistic depressurization ever shown on screen.
Also AK47s WOULD NOT FIRE IN A VACCUM
@@SamWinters modified they could. Well actually the ammo is self oxygenating so they definetly could.
@@iplaygames8090 the real problem would be keeping the mechanisms lubercated, if anything.
@@TheTrueAdept NASA has space lube, it's white, fluoridated, and doesn't migrate in low-g like lubes.
Graphite could lube it but jeh that depressure stuff bothers me to. Would be intresting to know how vacuum affects the gas impingement system though otherwise i dont see a reason for a rifle not to work in space other than maybe just not cycling if not modified and maybe some problems with the metal due to extreme cold and heat stress. But who knows, some keyboard warriors to enligten me here?
So, couple thing. First, let's be honest they would have run out of oxygen in seconds and all died. Second, how could they not design that base either with smaller thicker windows that couldn't be shot out or some kind of emergency shutters to activate in the event of a breach? There's always a risk of micro meteorites (that can be bigger and faster than bullets) that can do the exact same thing.
Why even have windows? If a submarine doesn't need them, your moon base command center doesn't either.
Sure maybe an observation deck to help guide other landers but not the command room for exactly this reason.
@@cpob2013 to be fair the irl Apollo lander has a small window. Plus I think the American base was in place before they intended to start a war.
The expanse offers a better description of what would have happened if they had a breach.
the windows are thick it took 3 bullets to create a hole in one
@@cpob2013 also all the lunar bases got em
to see if a astronaut nearby is in trouble or where in this universe with the soviets it would be important to see if they are gonna do anything
i remember seeing this and knowing EXACTLY what the cosmonaut would do.. but damn im surprised it took so long to depressurize, how much air is in the base lmao
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. How long depends on the size of the hole.
Why would the US not order the marines to maintain guard duty during the conflict. It's pretty obvious that tensions are escalating back on Earth. Buran and Pathfinder is about to have a moon orbit standoff, it's just common sense to be on guard, especially in an isolated position.
It wasn't really a 'conflict' before those Soviet troops fired the first shots. However, the Soviets do seem to have been escalating at every opportunity, so maybe they should have expected this.
Lets not forget that we are talking about verrry dumb marines
@@benrussell-gough1201 did they?
They didn’t retaliate when the marines showed up with guns and took the mine back. They only retaliated and escalated after the Americans followed up the mine incident by shooting an unarmed cosmonaut, and instead of returning the other cosmonaut, accepted his defection.
As far as the Russians, and international law is concerned, they gave the Americans the opportunity to deescalate, but the Americans not only didn’t take it, but further escalated things.
I also want to point out that the mine that caused all this was seized legally, not stolen by the Russians as the Americans have claimed. By hiding the discovery of the mine to prevent the Russians from finding it, they are not ‘staking’ their claim on the mine. So when the Russians ‘stole’ the mine, they did not actually steal it, they seized an unclaimed mine.
Bloody hell, I can’t believe I’m defending the Soviets. Need to get my brain bleached.
@@Charlie0l9 he he. Come here comrad, now you part of us!
They should have weapons and spacesuits nearby. It took the marine almost 10 seconds to realize and then just stood there while getting shot at. It's like they don't have a reaction to contact drill. As soon as that weapon came out heck even before that any soldier or marine with combat experience would know threat and suit up rdy to go.
“Even the blackbox looks good, maybe one day the spokes will tell us what it does.” Hmmm I think this might have some importance.
*laughs in nuclear meltdown*
Step 1: Gun down Soviet Cosmonaughts like you're in a police drama, Step 2: Be surprised when Soviet Union retaliates.
When the glass broke, I was wondering the entire time "did they not install blast shields that can plug the window-hole for this exact reason? Why even HAVE windows then?! Just go with monitors!"
Computers, until recently, were big, heavy things. Without closed-gas fission or plain ass fusion rockets using water propellant, every GRAM counts. As in literally every gram counts. Why do you think the Sea Dragon is so MASSIVE? Because of the tyranny of the rocket equation, that's what. Closed-gas fission or simple fusion rockets with water propellant are far more effective in moving stuff for (comparatively) minimal space requirements, especially if you use helium-3 fusion reactors for your rockets.
So, you'll have to skimp on some features, and that includes shutters and really anything more than the basics. Remember, this is literally sent up in a Saturn V rocket, not anything more powerful.
@@TheTrueAdept Your argument can basically be boiled down to "computers used to weigh a lot, so that's why there is a window there instead of a bulkhead." Which is nuts.
but why the have windows on spacestation... daytime +300C nigthtime -200C imposible to therma isolate and imposibel to isolate agaisn radiation of sun.
I'll try to explain why Soviet attacked. From Soviets point of view US took "their" mine (but they knew that in reality it was US who found it, so there was no retaliation of any sort and there is no real reason to fight over it). Later US marines killed one of their cosmonauts and took another one as a hostage (thats what they think after "defection" claim by the US without any prove provided). From Soviets perspective the idea that one of very best could defect is atrocios lie by it roots. And at the same time, Soviets have the intelligence on delivering US nuclear weapons to the Moon (We don't know if its true, but Soviets have to assume worst case scenario) and most likely they know about arming of Space Shuttles and escort for BFR that made it even more suspicious (in real world, USSR thought that Space Shuttle would be used to steal their sattelites and bomb USSR from the orbit). Soviets think that they are under attack and the only reasonable action for them - a preemptive strike in attempt to get their man. It is a fucked up situation, fueled by mistrust, chain of mistakes and lack of communication between involved parties at all levels.
And the best part is that at the same time Apollo-Soyuz (or Soyuz-Apollo) mission happens that should bring two countries together and show peaceful intents in space exploration. Unfortunately, we don't know if it is a deliberate distraction, or Soviet plans rapidly changed after the news of dead cosmonaut and another as "a hostage". Their military could think that this mission is a distraction too (But that's just my personal assumption).
Actually satellite stealing really was one of plans of how Space Shuttle would be used (still sounds unrealistic to me considering how long it took to repair Hubble..).
The Soviets did believed that Space Shuttle was an orbital bomber and in fact still do: e.g. there was a documentary with an interview of Buran (Soviet Space Shuttle) chief designer made in middle of 00-es where he says that primary objective of Buran was to counter Space Shuttle military usage which he believed Buran did with its single flight (by showing that Space Shuttle can be intercepted).
This is also the story that military officers who worked with space-related things during that time will tell you.
@@skipperg4436 The Soviets are also the only (so far as anyone will admit) nation to fire a gun in orbit, having installed a 23mm anti-aircraft gun in their space station in fear of the space shuttle being used to board and capture it. Eventually they decided the threat didn't exist and the gun was pointless weight that could potentially cause an incident if someone got trigger happy/panicked, and they sent it back to earth. But not before test firing it, just to see what would happen.
So it's a 80s version of the Cuban missile crisis with the moon instead of Cuba.
The amount of paper that was wasted on this shot is more than I have used my entire life.
0:52
Space Spetsnaz: The Motherland says hello.
@Isaac G Dasvidaniya (До свидания) means goodbye. If you want to say hello, it's Priviet (привет)
Completely unrealistic. You don't get this much air out on that big hole with one bar pressure. Even if the whole window blows immediately the effect would be less dramatic. Probably you had enough time to seek safety.
Ya, after watching a show like The Expanse, the "magic sucking vacuum of doom" space effect here is typical Hollywood.
@@cylontoaster7660 Reading Alastair Reynolds and watching The Expanse has ruined scifi for me. Stuff like this takes me out of the story.
it would take mere seconds for all that oxygen to get sucked out. they would be dead in a minute.
@@boomborgoyari5781 even less, and all fluids burst out of their bodies. Lame scene.
@@boomborgoyari5781 The door is open to the entire base so it would take minute(s) to lose enough air through a single window of half a square meter. They had plenty of time to put a metal panel and flex seal over the breach. The speed limit for air out the breach is the speed of sound and exponentially reduces with distance from it, not the "magic sucking vacuum of doom". The soviets would probably use babushka's cutting board if this happened to them.
When the Russains entered: “There seems to be no sign of intelligent life anywhere..”
Ахахаха
Hahaha😂
Imagine americans getting angry for storming a moon base, even though an american shot an unarmed soviet cosmonaut
On Soviet Moon, Moonbase Assaults You!
Strange that they didn't have a plan or mechanism in place for a crack in the window... like a drop down blast shield or something. It's one thing to not have stuff like that in an Apollo capsule; it's quite another to not have one in a moon base with seemingly little to no weight requirements, which even has a nuclear reactor built-in.
*After one russian men died*
cosmonaut: *So you have chosen war.*
Will to be far they shot first
If one of your unarmed men died would you not be angry? lol what a loser
@@patefreeman1739 Not really. The Russians stole a mining base from the US. The US then escalated
This is what a futuristic Call of Duty should be
Basically CoD Ghosts?
@@jaym2267 Yeah,but it's the full game
Please look for Call of Duty Infinite Warfare.
@@ReviveHF IW doesn't meet expectations
You haven't heard of Boundary?
0:20 god when this guy stopped by the window i had a feeling something bad was about to happen
I thought some kind of RPG was about to be fired 😂😂😂
@@jeanadames8230 maybe next season, or next episode even. who knows
Thought he was gonna take his helmet off
I could tell something bad was going to happen by looking at the title, but that’s just me.
After The Expance I cant watch the space depressurisation scenes without laughing.
Why? They got it exactly right here.
@@joelmulder nope.
@@joelmulder the long ass depressurization is so innacurate
@@danzstuff what?
I don’t remember how long it takes in the show, but in reality depressurizing an airlock would take a while. Certainly not seconds as we see in a lot of sci-fi.
For reference, the de/repressurization onboard the ISS takes about 8 minutes.
It would take a while yes but then it would not violentry throw about everyone. You cannot have both. A small hole like that would not send someone flying *esspecially* not when holding on in low gravity where they are effectively 10 times as strong for this purpose. @@joelmulder
Wonder what the alternate Carl Sagan would be saying about this back on earth?
Where the FUCK were the blast doors and what the FUCK WERE THE FUCKING MOONMARINES DOING WHY WEREN'T THEY ON PATROL AROUND THE BASE!!!!!!
@@denbo786 You would think that glass would withstood that AK round. Especially what a micrometeorites would have done.
Millioooons and billiooons of too much air. -Carl
To be fair, I haven't watched this show yet, so maybe that room is attached to a much much bigger base to explain all the air, but then the previous comment about doors kinda invalidates that explanation. Just not how depressurization works in a correctly built structure. --references Myth Busters, NASA, The Expanse
@@mgellis1971 It held against two. Everything we got is bullet resistant. Which would be fine against a micro meteorite.
@RingSight91 too bad that lithium won’t be needed for a couple centuries with all the nukes flying around and everything getting destroyed
Decompression looks dramatic but it only lasts a few seconds in reality and people don't get pulled out the windows.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but ewen a very smal leak is enough to suck out the crew on a very nasty way.
@@kozmonauta0515 lake?
@@kozmonauta0515 rip english
It was meant to be leak, forgive me for my sin.
@@kozmonauta0515 Actually it isn't. The difference between 1 and 0 bar of pressurisation is not enough to cause the dramatic effect seen in this episode.
There's stories in the ISS of small leaks forming on the walls, and astronauts plugging it with their finger while they look for a long term fix, and afterward only having the same mark you have when you use a suction cup on your skin.
Pretty sure all the air would be out of that room in a couple seconds
No, it would of taken even longer then that... and a hole that big would of been more of an annoyance then "everything get sucked out into space!" nonsense that happens all to often. They would of had plenty of time to get up and put some frigging duct tape onto the hole or put a clip board up to it and then get out and lock the bulk head.
@@TheRyujinLP nope the glass would blow out and an explosive decompression would occur, if the glass can´t survive a bullet it can´t survive a delta p of one atmosphere while compromised by a bullethole
Breathtaking scene
*rimshot*
Literally
cmon man.
Underrated comment.
literally
I always come here to watch it again after I finnish the episodes
irl, if he shot and just left, you'd immediately look at the hole and just go
"anybody got some duct tape?"
Russian: guess what I have behind my back?
Oh wow, he shot a good grouping for minimum distance shots but with open iron through a glass helmet. I'm impressed. That helmet glass would have been hard to acquire an accurate sight picture. Anyone whose shot with gas masks can support this point.
very true, I remember trying to shoot a nerf gun with a nerf rival mask on and it was so difficult to hit anything
I'm not sure if you would even be able to get a sight picture. TBH I was expecting everyone to be using laser dot sights.
shooting with gas masks isnt that bad my guy.
theres a big difference between a gas mask and a space suit though really, i think if it was all real no soldier in space would be without a laser
maybe they've got a HUD in their helmet visor
‘So how strong do you want us to make the glass sir?’
‘Hmmmm not that strong, and no shutters either, nothing ever goes wrong’
That glass looked pretty strong to me.
@@matthewjones39 if a bullet could do that, a bit of space debris travelling fast could too
Spending billions on a moon station but not having re enforced glass? when you are bringing guns? Yes makes sense.
My heart literally sank when he pulled the gun
Yeah I was like wtf why is that astronaut important is it Gordo going to say hi for a peaceful end then the gun and I’m like whelp that base is f*cked
I was like oh well justified payback
"Say 'ello to my leetle frien'."
@Jack Kavanagh the Cosmonaut burning inside his own suit was way way more disturbing if you ask me.
@@dzhuish4skin997 While both were very disturbing and shouldn’t have happened, I find getting sucked out into an endless void to be waaaay more freaky, but that’s just my opinion
By the way, while this is happening, Gordo is tapping Trace.
"You coming?" "I'm about to" LMAO
@@meteorafallen hahahaha
I love so much Gordo
RIP TRACY AND GORDO. WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS TO US?
Moon sex
10 hours later and the air is STILL escaping from that room.
fr lmaooo
это как бесконечные патроны в пистолете
Ya thought ya would have put shutters to come down automatically when there is a breach
Or sturdy glass to protect against projectiles (whether bullets, or a book that someone threw because they're mad). Then again, I don't know much about space so don't take any advice from me.
@@jomarivelasco5260 it was clearly pretty resistant as it took 3 bullets to make a small hole and a bunch of stuff slamming it fully break it.
@@skinnyjasper3097 Yeah, 7.62 is a big round, that window to take three before going down, so quite strong one.
This is not star wars
Would they have engineered any large “glass” windows on a moon base? The engineers would have had to account for the possibility of micrometeorite impacts that go a hell of a lot faster than any rifle round. Just saying.
2:08
Me when I hear the ice cream truck outside
While everyone debates window cracks and air loss, I'd like to know why the internal airlock door was hinged on the vulnerable side, so you have to fight to pull it closed. Hinge it on the safe side and the rush of outgoing air pulls it closed for you
When the moon dust is speaking Russian
wtf is "rusian"?
Seriously underrated show.
I would say the only reason it's underrated is because it's on AppleTV, if it wasn't behind a subscription paywall more people would watch it (myself included, I've just been watching out of context clips on RUclips). I don't know anyone who has a subscription or any of the shows they even have apart from this one
@@StickTheGlue I actually have a whole year free trial on it, so I have access to apple tv+ for free until December this year.
That dramatic vacuum effect is the only reason these futuristic space explorers are still using paper.
I think they overdramatized the depressurization (though watching that guy get knocked out the window and just kind of ker-chunking on the ground was pretty vivid.) In reality, the air probably would have all gone out pretty quickly, followed by all the people in the room passing out. The force of the air doing so would have been a bit like the water draining from a bathtub. The papers and stuff would have been blown out the window, but I doubt the people or the equipment would have. Also, big fail on them having the air-tight door open, that's like a major safety fail. All doors in that base should remain closed when not in use to prevent the entire place depressurizing in an emergency.
Also, I wonder what Gordo was actually seeing when he was seeing those red lights in the first season. I wonder if they'll ever pay that off or if they'll drop it.
The red lights were the Russian base
Massively. It would take minutes maybe longer to actually depressurize. Keep in mind the pressure difference here is just 1 atm. That is not significantly more than in a high altitude flight and less than your typical car tire to the outside. A opening that small could easily take a minute probably more. And may very well have simply been closed by the paper.
What is shown here is explosive decompression. That would have required the entire window to be blown out instantly minimum. Probably not even then. And in that case the airstream would not have gone on for anywhere close to that.
extraordinary acurate serie ! everything make so much sens! exept 99% of what happen in it
One atmosphere of pressure would not produce an indoor hurricane if a window was breached. You'd probably be able to walk up and cover it with something.
Yeah
They brought it to themselves when they shoot those Russian astronauts
The problem with escalation is that, the other side isn't likely going to be happy just getting even when its their move. How did those Soviet cosmonauts get shot? Through their own stupidity and being some place that was already claimed by the U.S., and after the U.S. had already demonstrated that it intended to chase off anyone who jumped their claims, with guns if necessary.
The retaliation won't stop here. The question is will it stop before both nations are effectively wiped off the Moon.
@RingSight91 they didn’t “just go to jamestown and shoot it”, they went to rescue their guy who the americans refuse to give back
@RingSight91 Comunism isn't just a economical system, for URSS it was also a way of seeing life, I think the reason they were occupying the US site was because they didn't had seem it as a "property", but as a resource anyone should have access to. In real life at the current time we can say the moon don't have a owner and no country have territory there.
@RingSight91 Soviets know that US killed one of their man and think that they took another as a hostage. They also believe that US is trying to get nuclear weapons to the Moon, so there is no reason for them to believe that all what happened before was an accident. I think that combination of events moved Soviets to believe that they are under attack and US is trying to force them off the Moon, so they decided to escalate situation even further. Don't forget that for Soviets all of Jamestown crew are criminals. It looks more like a rescue operation than a retaliation strike. And as Adm. Adama from BSG once said: "I'm getting my men".
@@hhale the problem is the US had no official claims on that mine. They discovered it but kept it a secret so the soviets claimed it.
As soon as there was an outside POV I knew shit was gonna go down
The music when the Russians enter is so creepy. I was so mad the episode ended right there! Cannot wait for next ep. Very underrated show.
One thing space movies tend to get wrong is the strength of depressurization, at worst, I'd guess a breach the size of the initial hole would feel like a brisk breeze, certainly not strong enough to move anything substantial, like those boxes, and definitely not strong enough to blow a man through the window. Also, not having a means of sealing the window is a critical design flaw, have you ever seen pictures of the ISS windows? They all have mechanically operated hatches. Granted, the primary purpose of those is to protect the glass from impacts when they're not in use, but I'm pretty sure they can at least slow a leak long enough to get a patch up. But what the hell, it makes for dramatic cinematography if you don't know or can overlook the physics and poor design logic.
Something to remember is that a lot of that stuff is now weighed by moon gravity. I weigh 150lbs, and am 6'2"... on the moon i'd weigh about 25lbs (comparatively, my mass hasn't changed but the gravity has less pull), but I'm still 6'2". which means I have a lot less weight compares to my equivalent surface area, and less friction on the ground holding me in place.... could imagine a "light breeze" being a little difficult to fight against until i got ahold of something to actually grab onto.
That makes some difference, but not all that much, your mass remains the same, as does inertia, even in zero g a light breeze can only impart so much velocity to an object with your mass.
I do not think that you quite understand how it works either. It would be much stronger than this and their skin would start to evaporate also. This is more akin to a planes rapid decompression. The moon does not have any substantial atmosphere and that is vastly different from what would be in a moon base simulating Earth's atmosphere
You still have the same muscle strength. So while yes stuff would go flying they would easily be able to move about when grabbing onto stuff. More easily than in an airplane even. @@officialbazzargaming
@@MrStuntman "their skin would start to evaporate also"
You don't know what you are talking about. This is nothing more than a 20th century sci fi myth. In reality your skin is more than tough enough to withstand a vacuum. There have been plenty of studies. The danger is basically the same as at 40k in an airplane. Loss of useful conciousness after 9-15 seconds once the deoygenated blood reaches the brain. Though if someone can get you to safety any exposure below 90 seconds is harmless and you would be fine after only a couple minutes-
"This is more akin to a planes rapid decompression"
It would be yes. What is shown here is not realistic rapid decompression. And rapid decompression wouldn't happen from a single bullet hole. Neither should the rest of the window break apart considering how thick it is.
They also should be able to move about just fine. Keep in mind they are much lighter while having the same muscle strength. They really should not be struggling at all to get to the door and close it. Even if they magically have enough air in there for the decompression to last such an absurd amount of time.
Nothing in this scene really makes sense lol though it's still pretty cool.
That was faster than the 7 days to the Rhine plan.
In the time it took to decompress west Germany was overrun and the French were already surrendering
Cosmonaut knocks on window, "Comrade, you have any plutonium?"
When the Cosmonauts are sick and tired of you screwing around with hoses and spamming earrape
I love that there's no sound when the camera is outside
You do not get gale force winds on the pressurized side of a vacuum breach. Just ask anyone who's ever used a vacuum chamber.
It is strange that Janestown's bridge window is not circle and doesn't made of two layers of glass for better protection.
Would take twice the bullets, but the window stood no chance
It Was made of thick layers of glass but you still have to have some weight savings with transporting modules up there. There thick glass but they got shot at in one place several times. I theorize even thicker panes would fail if because its a pressurized air divider and under extreme pressures.
Aren't they supposed to have shutters, like the windows in the ISS? And isn't that window supposed to be bullet proof, to protect it from moon dust and possible debris? Just sayin'
Check out Kentucky Ballistics he shoots bulletresistant glass.
If a cosmonaut comes hiding his one hand behind infornt of your base would you keep looking at them?
This is the slowest assault I have ever seen in my life, boys are chillin
Fixing any breach like that is pretty simple. You could literally put a plastic binder on the hole and it would stop the breach because of the air pressure
I don’t see how a gun fight on the moon is gonna be fun without the sound of gunshots.
You’ll still get the dopamine for the firing of the gun (recoil would be a lot more fun) so idk
Feel like it’s gonna take place inside Jamestown Colony instead of out on the lunar surface. In that case, there WILL be sound
@@SpiderGuy38 If the russian don't just override the nuclear reactor savies and trigger a melt down.
the guy who flew out of the window died a few seconds after he touched the lunar surface imagine his perspective you begin to blur a second after you flew out and then passed out after he hit the soil a few seconds later and 90 seconds after he lost oxygen he died
I knew it....I knew it was coming.
It was only a matter time
WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL THEM!? YOU COULD HAVE SAVED LIVES!
but seriously you didn't know shit
ze german's are coming
The jarheads shouldn't have fired those shots. Payback time.
@@JohanKlein they should have expected that.....yes hope it not the opening battle of WW3
When you escape to the dark side of the moon but they still hunt you down to ask about your car's extended warranty
Не Советы первые начали. И ответ не заставил себя долго ждать.
Funny thing is, if that was real life the only thing that would get sucked out would be paper and other small things
What!? No XD. They would all be sucked out and dead, unconscious, inflamed, in pain, and dying. Dead.
you're right, its only 5 PSI of air pressure difference if this base has the same pressure as the real life LEM
@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming Well, no. The air pressure would not be able to just lift a male body up and throw it out of the breach, even with 1/6th lunar gravity.
@@lazarusboi6289 Simply for the room they are in (not including Jamestown): Air density is ~1kg/m³ That means, the 8x8x4 room they are in has 256kg of air in it. For anyone next to the window (less effect further from the window) so that air is now pushing on them to get out. Yes, it can lift a male body out.
Oh no, a bullet has come through the window.... Well, anyway, patch the hole with duct tape and evacuate this module in an orderly fashion.
That's the most casual and terrifying "Fuck you" I've ever seen
The sound design is awesome. Also, space ak
space ak is the real thing now
(edit:holy sh*t,50 likes,the most like comment i ever have in youtube,thanks everybody)
Not even modified for space, just a plain old AK.
@@ckotherletters AK is perfect weapon . It does not need modification unlike puny American weapons.
@@wyattpruitt6965 probably the only thing change is the cover steel,they strong but can't handle to much heat from the sun
@@wyattpruitt6965 damn😂
@@wyattpruitt6965 some modification probably still required. While guns can shoot in space, moon dust is very abrasive and lack of atmosphere can cold weld metal parts together.
I guess if you’ve ever wondered what explosive decompression looks like in super slow motion, there’s your answer.
“Remember, no Russian”
More like "Remember no Americans"
@@michaelhamar3305 when makarov said “no Russian” originally he meant don’t speak Russian so people think the Americans shot up the airport I’m pretty sure
no hebrew
Запомните "Ни слова по американски".
@@d0d0birdiexd78 I was left confused by that because didn't one of the Russians die as well?
0:50 Doom Eternal Only Thing They Fear Is You music kicks in
What you want is a spray foam that hardens automatically to fix a leak
Glass not likely to be used due to its shattering. Polycarbonate much more likely.
Those astronauts are going to have a serious case of the bends
One of the things that struck my mind. I wonder what kind of bends the guy got sucked out of the window if he somehow managed to survive. I wonder if the Ivans would even care but... oh well.
@@samuelmendoza9356 prob still less painfull then the cosmonaut that got flambed but.. oh well.
@@iplaygames8090 wym?! It was a warm reception! xD
"for all mankind" - "so i took out my ak47...."
Sees a man reveal a rifle, gets shot at 3 times, still doesn’t say anything until it’s too late. Well done sir
Someone want to check if the windows are actually supposed to withstand the speed of bullets? I mean, space is filled with shit flying really fast. Don't you think NASA would invest in blast doors for the windows
You forgot this base was hastly cobble together because they thought the Soviets were building a base and the US didn't want to fall behind.
Can't stop laughing at how overly dramatic this decompression scene is 😂😂 a hole that size would have vented that base to vacuum in a second or 2
No it wouldn't, the math doesn't add up. This is actually far too short for the decompression, and there wouldn't be enough force to throw a man out of the window.
@@mkd2839 Really? Now you've got me thinking lol. I'm actually curious to see the math on that, because I've read that rapid decompression events in commercial airliners with a hole the size of the airliners window (such as Southwest Flight 1380) that are over in a second or 2. Although, I understand the actual equalization of interior pressure to exterior atmosphere does take a longer time (as in minutes) as the airflow decreases with pressure and volume. The graph would look like an inverse square with the majority of the drama where the force is great enough for people to actually blown out happens in the first second or so. I might have to relearn calculus for this😂😂
@@conflict314 Based on the math others worked out, I think the reason why really is the fact that bulkhead doors weren't closed so you're working with the entire base's volume of air.
@@conflict314 Its a 30-50% bigger pressure difference between a lunar module and the vacuum of space, and a 7.62mm hole is a lot smaller than the window of an airliner. Im not doing the math but intuitively Id suspect 10-45 seconds before people started getting hypoxic in that room and a couple minutes before the pressure is too low to sustain life
@wills.5762 yeah i agree, the math adds up, but it definitely wouldn't cause a guy to get sucked out like a minute after hull penetration like in the scene
Ingesting this is the guy most likely died of exposure, but not from the cold but burns. Do to the lack of atmosphere and the long day night cycle(around 29 days) regolith in the sun is extremely hot more then enough to boil the water in his body.
Real Moon base windows can not be cracked like this but must be strong to withstand even small meteorite impacts...
7.62 is big round and probably modified to ap and close shots I mean have you heard of the hesh ammo round it barley scratches the outside then it explodes (no pen) but the inside of the armor a comes spall and decimates the inside while the armor is weakened
Ceramic round core. .
This movie seems pretty cool, from the small amount of scenes I've seen so far.
I love how whoever made this actually understands how sound waves propagate through a medium, or a lack of medium.
It’s a three season show on Apple TV. Definitely too much human drama, but worth watching.
A true gopnik never leaves without an ak
"great spacesuit! where can i get one?"
such an insane scene ! Had me on the edge of my sofa