@@750suzuki Probably sarcasms but nowadays, despite its influence and military might, Russia has a lower GDP than Italy and relies heavily on ressources exploitation. So Obama wasn't wrong.
@@Jellyforge yeah, I mean, of you are at high ready, the odds of someone being able to snap a gun up and get an accurate shot off are slim, so let the folks grab what they were gonna grab.
@@Jellyforge Yeah. Cops should just let people shoot at them. What cowards Acting in self defense against people who are disobeying lawful orders. Honestly, how weak. I don’t even know why they have regard for their own lives. I mean just grow up right? I lost regard for my own life when I was like 3. So I of all people would know how easy it is not to be scared when your literal life is at stake. It’s such a ridiculous notion to not love the thought of bullets rushing past you. Are you detecting the sarcasm there? Cause I mean it.
no joke, if i was the one who fired the shot and had to watch some poor dude burn alive in his own suit because he was just reaching for a translating card, I would never forgive myself. I would have nightmares of that for the rest of my days.
@Daniel Wong it kinda is their fault. Anyone sent to the moon would should have extreme calm under pressure. In this case it is entirely the USSR’s fault.
In the heat of situations, you forget to do certain things. In high stress situations, you *will* forget that you can do another thing or you might not even realise you could've done that.
English is difficult for Russian speakers and in stressful situations you forget everything. These horrified men started saying high-school level excuses like "We didn't do anything, we'll leave, give us a chance to explain it" and started to act accordingly to the instructions they had which was "Use the language cart to communicate". I've received perfect scores in all kinds of English tests be it British or American and even then I forget most basic words when I'm nervous. Can't imagine what would I do at the gunpoint.
this skirmish would have cost a few hundred mil. The IRL Saturn V would have been capable of delivering all three moon marines and their gear in one launch and would have cost 1.23B in today's money. But it really depends on how you break down who participated and what equipment was involved. I would assume that show NASA has cheaper options however.
@Minwon Jang my thought referred to logistical cost ratio for single piece of armory, everything would be very expensive because transportation from earth is highly inefficient.
You could have gold bars neatly stacked on the moon and you still couldn't get them back to earth at a profit. That's how expensive it is to go up there.
Something kinda interesting about the Cold War in space. It was actually a lot less tense than you would think. First, astronauts and cosmonauts got along totally fine. Both had identical interests, had similar career paths, and were psyched about being in space. It’s far more likely that they would exchange pictures, stories and medals. Also there were agreements so that if anyone got in trouble in space and had to make an emergency landing, a Cosmonaut could land in Kansas, or an astronaut could land in Belarus without any fear of being captured.
That's why these aren't astronauts, who would not do something like this to their fellow space explorers, but gung ho marines who are brought into space.
Their own government did it to themselves. Their own government is the one defunding their own program and withdrawing from cooperating. Alas, I hope we can all have peace soon.
@@Dazzxp That isnt what depressurization does. Hollywood has given people a very wrong impression of what explosive decompression in space means. You would swell up some, and the moisture in your soft tissues would likely evaporate (likely painfully) but you wouldnt die instantly or violently.
@@Justowner He didn't tho he survived, i am referring to the one that didn't catch on fire and if you look at his suit it was swelling and having bubbles in your bloodstream is agonising. It like when you surface from deep sea and you are traveling too fast the air pressure drops rapidly which can lead to death in a few minutes. As for the other one fk knows what happened there cosmonauts didn't carry pure oxygen tanks, but i guess a bullet caused a spark in his suite which then caught fire from the electronics which than consumed all the oxygen in his tanks from the fire .
@@Dazzxp I was only talking about the one who didnt catch fire as well. The deep sea bubbles are because the human body isn't designed to be under THAT much pressure and then return to normal. IIRC, the gas you breathe has something to do with it as well. Going from 1atm to 0atm wouldn't at all be comparable. The actual problem isn't really the hole in the suit, its the hole in his body. I don't think anybody has really considered how a body would behave in vacuum with broken skin. But again, the hole in his suit and loss of pressure wouldn't just magically cause his blood to boil. Also, the suit wouldn't lose all pressure instantly, this style of suit has a pressure keeping system.
"According to the Lunar Resource Agreement, as long as you don't show signs of agression, americans will have to respect your legal claim on this site for mining" Funniest shit I've ever read from a piece of paper
@@namewasadeadmemeandcantthi184 You think there aren't those who would try to claim even infinite resources for themselves exclusively? Besides, while the combined resources of the universe are practically infinite, our reach and the time in which we have to get these are not. Whoever gets out there first will be taking the juiciest pics for themselves, and I doubt will be much interested in sharing what they find.
@@nicholassmith7984 you know how many mile long asteroid are in the belt? Hundreds of millions. Just one asteroid would yield an unimaginable amount of resources. Hence, practically infinite.
why did the lady start telling them in English to back away from the box when she was just speaking to them in Russian just moments before. She had two guys behind her giving her the cover she needed if they pulled a weapon. The marines in this scene did everything wrong in deescalating the situation
What I can't understand, they shoot the first guy for reaching into the box, and the second guy was like, "Ok, I am going to fix this by also reaching into box."
She doesn't actually speak Russian. She's just reading the card on her forearm but doesn't understand when the Russian responds with "Americans. Please, lower your weapons. We are not a threat to you. Give us one minute."
they were reaching for smth and didnt even put their hands up,why tf Americans need to learn russian,why ruSSians dont know basic english when its much simpler
Not in direct sunlight. Without insulation, you're cold on one side, and hot on the other. Your body is always radiating heat away, you can see this with thermal cameras. But the sun is a deadly laser... especially when there's no atmosphere to diffuse it.
i like the attention to detail how the flame quickly dies out, as it quickly consumes what oxygen supply is left but then the suit should be skin tight because there is no more oxygen to keep him pressurized.
If they were paying attention to detail, then the oxygen wouldn’t catch fire in the first place. Oxygen isn’t flammable. It’s an oxidizer. It needs to mix with a fuel source to be flammable. We live in 20ish% oxygen. All pure oxygen does is cut the stoichiometric of a fuel by 1/5th. I know Russians have vodka for blood, but even that isn’t flammable.
@@Omatecay I didn't say anything about suit pressure. That really has nothing to do with this. And no, it's still not enough to cause a flash or fire to clothing or hair. The only fabrics around them are fire retardant, like Nomex and Aramid because you wouldn't want a freak incident to be setting people on fire. Both in the suit, and around the station. Pilots wear similar blends. They don't plan on being around fire, but the only downside is cost.
"Hello Americans, we are no threat. I will get our translation card in this small box so we can talk and chill." *gets shot and dies in one of the worst ways possible*
@@2kmichaeljordan438 In the movie, the russians had full rights to their own land, they were allowed to be there. Marines intruded on their property. If there really WAS a gun in the crate, it would take ages to pull out and the marines would recognize the basic silhouette. And, even then, if the marines did shoot the russians, they would be court martialed and jailed for a colourful rainbow of crimes.
It's quite a big fail on the plot, not a single cosmonaut, even during the hard times of the cold war, would ever go to the space or to a mission knowing that there could be US astronauts without knowing the most basics to communicate in eachothers language, even the basic " Stop"," I'm not a threat", etc. Even today many soldiers deployed on Afghanistan learned to say a few words to communicate with locals without being able to keep even a minimal conversation but some basic orders or indications.
@@Huma270490 Same could be said for the US astronauts. If they were planning to detain or forcibly search the Russian site, they would have had the responsibility to not read from a fucking script pasted to your arm. I would even argue that since they chose to initiate contact in Russian, they should have expected to receive responses in Russian. This isn't some routine police raid or traffic stop, this is supposed to be an interaction between individuals who should have had some form of diplomatic training.
The dude is simultaneously being burnt alive while suffocating in a decompressed suit, and the Astronaut that shot him is like "Hold on buddy, we'll patch you up." at that point I'd just put him out of his misery. This show's writing is such ass.
@@danielhertel5665 I beg to differ because not even the Army is this fucking stupid. I'm a former combat Marine that did two tours in Afghanistan actually and worked closely with SEALS and Force Recon while I was over there, first off. ('04-'08) Secondly, how on earth did you ever deduce that I didn't think that this whole scene is absolutely absurd? All I said was, "I beg to differ." Being that I saw a lot of action and know the rules of engagement. There were PLENTY of times that we took fire before addressing potentially hostile threats before engaging. And your little comment about me probably wounding or killing innocent civilians and/or not caring makes me wonder as to the credibility of being in a position to work with any SOFs. Lastly, no I did not engage or injury anyone who didn't engage me first. But I gotta ask, what do you do? Are you enlisted? What's your rank and how old are you? -LCPL O'Connor, USMC '04-'08
@@StumpfForFreedom Ummmm did you forget that literally WW1 started because of an assassination of a single person....and that WW2 happen because said WW1 happen in the first place.....literally two World wars were caused because of an assassination, the Japanese invaded China under the pretext of the Marco-polo bridge incident, the US entered the Vietnam War because the Gulf of Tolkien incident I can being up more examples but, a direct shooting incident between the US and USSR could've kicked off a war easily if the USSR wanted to justify they're own reasons.
@@gregorylouis617 I may need to refresh my history, but I remember being taught that the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was used as the pretext for the war, but it's not like everyone wasn't ready for war and it wouldn't have happened otherwise.
@@Elydir Oh no with the way technology was ramping up during that era it was just an excuse for war at that point...if you build thousands of machine guns and rifles someone has to use them. The assassination turned Europe into a dogpile as Austria and Serbia were allied to other nations who themselves were aligned with others etc. Realistically that war should've been contained between the Serbs. It was just a justification for a war that was needed, if it was Ferdinand it would've been another event that tipped the scale to war.
Not really, in real life this would likely quickly be cleared up as an accident unless one of the sides wanted this. I mean there’s a little bit of understanding with this considering that even forces that are actively allied, speaking the same language, and coordinating can have blue on blue and kill each other. Formal apology would do wonders
Well the Americans have guns.... They can hold their guns.... And shoot their guns... They can put their guns down.... And pick their guns up.... So when they think Russians have guns.... That they can also pick up.... And hold.... The same as the Americans.... It means..... Like does anyone even think before posting comments? Makes no sense? What doesn't make sense? The principle is no different to being on Earth. They thought they had weapons in the box.
@@kiearnhorne9382 These people are in suits that limit mobility significantly, reaching for, grabbing, and then attempting to pull the trigger of a gun in a short amount of time is pure fantasy. The Marines would have more than enough time to shoot him if he really tried to do something like that.
@@kiearnhorne9382the point is that in space, it actually is. So they easily had time to wait and see what the Russians pulled out of the box before slotting them. Especially with the marines training their M16’s on them.
@@johne3838 The passengers on KAL tried to steal a US lithium mine, had to be ejected by military force, and then were killed loitering on the perimeter while refusing to comply with armed military personnel?
As an American, it pisses me off that they went in their like that without having all of the resources that they needed to prevent misunderstanding and violence
@@ryanmaxwell4346 damn right they are, they should have tried to make sure some one could speak Russian, or if one of the Russians could speak English before ventilating them...
Theoretically they could detect where the radio signals originate from, but I kinda doubt they have that kind of equipment in their suits so likely just lazy writing.
Marine, where’s the cosmonauts They’re right there see? I shot em with my rifle. You were supposed to let him grab his translator Dude I’m gonna! Oh really? So go get the cosmonaut Ok I will! *proceeds to give medical to the already dying cosmonaut* *Cosmonaut dies* I see the problem. Oh DO YA?!
Real talk, though, in the situation the Cosmonauts are in, here, I would have stood where I was the entire time and just motioned for the Americans to look into the box, and rough sign-languaged out paper and speaking. A monkey would be able to understand what I meant, and I wouldn't be acting like a spy going for a killswitch.
What kind of killswitch on the moon? a gun? takes ages to get ourt of the box and aim while the "enemy" is already aiming you down with their weapons. Sam applies for pistols. A grenade or any other explosives? You are an astronaut with billions worth of training and equpment on you and you value your live so no you dont go suicde bomber on the moon. Apart from that ot would be even slower and the first applies again. The marines behaved like they were on earth with earth gravity. Apparently they missed the basic training for "how the fucking moon works"
@@noobster4779 You don't move THAT slow on the moon my dude. Have you never seen footage of astronauts on the moon? The russians could have EASILY grabbed a pistol from the crate, turned it towards the americans while still in the crate (wrists are a thing) and then opened fire the second they lifted it out of the crate. One of those marines could be shot before they even had a chance to react. This is why you don't do anything other than raise your hands when a gun's pointed at you. NOBODY is going to just sit there and wait for you to potentially pull a weapon and murder them.
@@noobster4779 remember they we're marine aviators, short pilots, they weren't trained enough for combat on the moon, also the fact that you are enclosed into a small bubble of pure oxygen with virtually no protection agaist any firearm put the also in a mood "how shoot first, lives"
@@imperialofficer6185 I dont quite remember, but I assume they were on russian land. So no, they dont have to put their hands up, infact, according to most US law (stand-your-ground, etc) russiand could legally have fired at the marines.
Dude, you don't reach for something while people are pointing weapons at you and telling you to stop. The Russians should have pointed at the box, or something else besides looking like they were reaching for a gun, bomb, etc.
What the cosmonauts (who were probably miners or scientists, not soldiers) did wrong: made a suspicious move. They should have just backed away and let the Americans see that they were harmless. What the marines did wrong: failed to remain calm in a situation which demanded calm, did not have someone with a passable knowledge of Russian, made a somewhat baseless assumption about the contents of that case, and failed to confirm what the Russians were actually doing before acting. What they SHOULD have done was kept level heads, and waited until the cosmonauts removed whatever they were reaching for before determining that a threat existed.
what if it was a pistol...or a detonator, a grenade that can be primed without even taking it out of the case, flashbang, sometimes its too late if they take it out of the box, they should have told them to stop, or don't move, all done behind cover, and at the end of the day, effective communication saves the day
@@LMau-t9r buddy it's kinda stupid for them to carry explosives you understand this is moon right? I don't think russia would allow them to have one. They are not soldiers and the least that they expect in moon is hostility And they just opened fire, communication is very vital if they are on foreign soil hell even in ww2 translators are very important in every unit and they didn't bother to do that here?
@Stormi Seudonym The marines had their guns already trained on them, the cosmonaut would have no time to react because the suit is clunky and he will probably have to turn really fast to hit em, not to mention he would likely miss his first shot.
@@PaRaDOX-de8bk Are you a moon marine? have you ever got into gunfights on the moon? how do you know whats fast and what isnt. what if he had a grenade.
@@ruskibot7745 there is less gravity on the moon but that doesn't exactly mean it's easy to move, if you watched the moon landing footage you would know that they moved slowly, not to mention they tried to run on the moon and fell over, so I don't think that they can move fast to get anything out, even a grenade will probably be easily spotted and delt with.
When the authorities are so convinced that they are right about the supposed enemy, that for them the dehumanization of the opponent in the eyes of their soldiers is higher than a banal translator, and there is not even time for dialogue.
You'd be able to hear gunshots in a vacuum as long as you were the one shooting. You wouldn't be able to hear it very well, but you would be able to hear it nonetheless.
@@RacistFemboyFox You would actually,but extremely faint as the vibration of the shot vibrates the gun,makes the vibration weaker,goes through your thick suit and you barely hear a thing,but nobody else would be able to hear it
@@floseatyard8063 I bet that when walking around in a vacuum on planets without an atmosphere becomes ubiquitous, well probably have ambient sound synthesis so it sounds like a normal environment, like they have in Elite Dangerous.
@@RacistFemboyFox There would be no ambient noise, there's still no air so not even some ambient noise could occur,Maybe on thin atmospheres like mars during windy times but on the moon? Definitely not
the fact none of the astronauts on either side knew a bit of the others language is flat bs. both the us and Russia have as a requirement for entering the space programs, to be fluent in multiple languages, english and russian being among them.
That requirement is modern. It only exists because US astronauts have to launch from Russian sites. I don't think it would've applied in this world, where there is no US - USSR collaboration until the mid 80s. As for not knowing the others' language, the cosmonaut who was shot and survived briefly speaks English at the base, and later more soviet cosmonauts show up and also speak English. As for him not speaking Russian here, that makes sense. I mean, several astronauts show up, yelling at you in Russian, why would you reply in English?
Thanks for sharing this, my prejudices concerning the quality of writing on this show have been confirmed. You've saved me at least half an hour of my life.
I heard some people say this show was comparable to the Expanse, at least as a hard sci-fi show, being somewhat of the same quality. Good to know they were wrong and I don't need to waste my time.
Except how they go flying when they get hit with a 5.56mm round traveling at 3200fps in 1/6th Earth's gravity. It would have just punched a hole straight through them. Especially being that those suits weigh upwards of 200 lbs. So, what the Hell were you talking about?
Kid: “Mooom, I want a space marine so our family can start doling out the cleansing fires of purgation to heretics and sinners!” Mom: “We have a space marine at home.” The space marine at home: 2:49
@@David-tl6lv Man, if only NASA equipped 'em with the Claridge Hi-Tec Goncz. Woulda made sure the Soviets didn't touch any of their shit that's for sure buhahahaha! Hooah, anybody remember that movie Clerks? Classic New Jersey flick, I tell ya! Anyway, I'm gonna go test out my new extended mag for the Goncz, now packin' 32 bullets of Hungarian steel.
not even really necessary though. Even if the soviets pulled a gun out they would take ages to get it ready and aim it compared to the americans that have them rifled down at the ready. The marines should just have waited because there was literally NO THREAT to them even if they pulled out a gun. This isnt earth gravity, everything is so slow thqat the first person that aims wins inmmidiatly.
@@bricklesskiwi376 Modern gunpowders are made of nitrated organic compounds, either nitrocellulose plus stabilizer or nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin. Those compounds have all the oxygen they need bonded to the organic molecule, which then decomposes under intense heat and pressure. If you burned it in an empty chamber it would probably self-extinguish as the hot gasses would puff off into the vacuum, but the barrel of an m16 and the cartridge prevent the gas released from escaping before the powder burns.
My favorite thing is all the people blaming the Russians when the Americans weren't even facing a clear threat lmao "I shot him before he could threaten me". Seems legit. Must be American cops, NASA sent up there.
Nah, just standard rules of engagement for most countries. They employ it in warzones too. If someone's acting suspicious enough that they are deemed a threat, the person with a gun is given the authority to shoot before the baddie could get a shot off.
@@Firefox1189 that's why when a car is barreling down on a group of U.S. soldiers the ROE and their training says to pop off warning shots then move to attempting to disable the vehicle before actually resorting to shooting the occupants, right? Lol you're full of shit, my guy. If they shot at anyone "acting suspicious" there would be nobody left to shoot because "acting suspicious" is completely subjective.
@@CGDubz87 reaching into a bag you can't see into? for all you know it's a bomb or gun, also why was a little paper slip kept in a large container? Anyways that's why translators are necessary when your doing patrols.
@@georgethompson1460 For all you know, it's a peace offering to show the trigger jumpy Americans that they're not a threat. You're not gonna have a good life if you're always hypervigilant and expecting the worst out of people. Also, the paper slip was probably kept in a large container because that's what containers are meant for. Keeping things in. Granted we don't know what, if anything else, was in the container, but basic reasoning says that paper slip wasn't the only thing in the whole container.
I Served in the US Military while yes you’re correct about our ROEs if someone is driving a car towards you to hit you, you are allowed to bypass all other ROEs and shoot the driver same thing as what happened here they were reaching into a box a box the Americans couldn’t see into they followed ROEs correctly and it was a good shoot sad it happened yes but they did what they needed to do
Both did wrongs: US astros shot them without confirmation that they were hostile. 4 armed to 2 unarmed its pretty clear no cosmo would try to fight, they also can't pull a weapon out fast and shoot them. USSR cosmos also made themselves look suspicious, try to give more signals or speak broken english if desperate. 2nd cosmo look even more suspicious rushing his hand to the box when his friend was shot for doing the same
The second guy propably just paniced in the situation because he was most likely not trained to expect his college beeing shot on the bloody moon while knowing something so utterly dumb might start WW3.
Although practically there is gravity, you have a good point, that type of weapon would be very silly to use at short and even medium range on the Moon.
Thats the point of watching series and movies Getting inmersed and attached to the characters and even if we know this is not real it will still make us angry when something like this happens
While moving in space is kinda slow and awkward, it isn’t a snails pace. Hell, this is controversial but you could say the cosmonauts could have grabbed a gun from the case and shot a marine before getting shot, assuming the marines are not already pointing guns at him like in the video.
Clearly before as here they captured the cosmonaut here, while killing the other one and the base attack was to get their comrade back and well revenge.
@@redlight8302 👈🏻thank you. Idk why other people have to ramble on about absolutely nothing important when all it takes is one word. Thanks for your common sense and being a normal dude. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
I noticed one of the Marines has a M203 mounted under his gun. If he ever had to use that he would probably kill himself from thr shrapnel from the grenade explosion, especially in low gravity.
I never like how dumb some details of this serie, like for example how it portray the astronaut been able to walk normaly on the moon, when the real astronaut suits are so dense that it didn´t allow the astronaut to walk but rather jump around (together with the low gravity). Also I don´t know how they can aim with those guns while using an astronaut suit.
The quick loss of pressure caused the oxygen in the suit to ignite and I don’t think this is what happened, but if you go into space without a space suit the part facing the sun would boil because there is no protection against the UV rays, which may have done something but not likely. Basically, loss of pressure.
@@floseatyard8063 because Co2 is heavier than air. As the carbon dioxide surrounds the candle or flame, it pushes oxygen out of the way, thus keeping the air from igniting. But in this situation, kinda hard to do that inside of a piece of cloth.
@@PanzerkampfwagenausfTschechosl Just looked it up,oxygen isn't flammable but it allows other close objects to burn easily,so it's not the oxygen burning but the co2 just prevents it from spreading fast? Or would it just be because we have less than 30 percent oxygen in our atmo?
You would think that your first instinct would be to put your hands up and motion towards the one thing you can use to communicate with. I'm not that good with language, but I think a gun pointed at you is a pretty universal indicator of "No sudden movements" and hands going up is another universal indicator of "Please don't hurt me"
They can afford rockets, moonbase and advance communications, but not a translator on standby
“Only a pinko speaks Russian” -mcarthry probably
@@thedude4840 Why learn the language of, according to Obama, a 'regional power'.
@@750suzuki Probably sarcasms but nowadays, despite its influence and military might, Russia has a lower GDP than Italy and relies heavily on ressources exploitation.
So Obama wasn't wrong.
@@wikirexmax, he rarely was.
@@wikirexmax still, that country with less GDP than Italy can swipe your country in a nuclear war.
Edit: bOmbama was wrong about many things
oof, getting shot while decompressing while burning alive while suffocating has *got* to suck
Big time
Yeah...worst possible death...omg that was so disturbing...
Actually ... the sucking starts after you have a hole in your suit.
In more ways than one
Definitely
Every character portrayed in this scene must have brains smoother than polished glass.
Welcome to most movies
No they just make homo erectus look intelligent
This is basically just American cops in space. Be a scared little bitch with a gun.
@@Jellyforge yeah, I mean, of you are at high ready, the odds of someone being able to snap a gun up and get an accurate shot off are slim, so let the folks grab what they were gonna grab.
@@Jellyforge Yeah. Cops should just let people shoot at them. What cowards Acting in self defense against people who are disobeying lawful orders. Honestly, how weak. I don’t even know why they have regard for their own lives. I mean just grow up right? I lost regard for my own life when I was like 3. So I of all people would know how easy it is not to be scared when your literal life is at stake. It’s such a ridiculous notion to not love the thought of bullets rushing past you.
Are you detecting the sarcasm there? Cause I mean it.
translations what the russians said: we are no threat
Cosmonaut that reads Russian: I know how to pronounce Russian words but hard to understand what they said.
and the marines said back away or stop or somethig, they yet said it in english
stupid
@@KyPc0p Thx, most underrated comment on this Video....
@@blockvfive1196 nope, one of them said it in russain
Fuck it hurts even more now
Hot take: Elite space infantry units would be trained in basic Russian / English.
Right? Nobody thought "Hey, maybe we should send someone bilingual."
Or hell even a translator so events like this never happen
@@tannerbarnes7392 yes
does the pope shit?
No fraternization with the Red.
>shoots guy
"Hang on buddy"
"This guy is on fire"
"Don't worry we're gonna patch you up buddy"
By patch you up he was talking to the other guy. But yeah the dialogue in this is almost as stupid as their actions
question, why was he on fire?
@@RazzBeri1 rapid depressurization of the suit.
Buddy is the most American fucking word ever
@@RazzBeri1 probably because they are using pure oxygen. Early space program use a lot of pure oxygen. And a single sparkle might cause a fire.
no joke, if i was the one who fired the shot and had to watch some poor dude burn alive in his own suit because he was just reaching for a translating card, I would never forgive myself. I would have nightmares of that for the rest of my days.
Yeah, that is a thing you'd probably remember in your own grave, just wouldn't be able to forget the sin you made.
Terrifying PTSD
You would have to forgive yourself cause it's not your fault at all, it was more a dumb move than a missunderstanding
@Daniel Wong it kinda is their fault. Anyone sent to the moon would should have extreme calm under pressure. In this case it is entirely the USSR’s fault.
Sir I would like to introduce you to the concept of ptsd
It’s fun?
@@StarStriker-pk1zy *Sure* it is. "Treaty of the Moon" - it isn't the USA's lump of rock.
What makes this dumber is that one of the Russians that got shot knows some English the next episode.
In the heat of situations, you forget to do certain things. In high stress situations, you *will* forget that you can do another thing or you might not even realise you could've done that.
Probably he knew only that sentence.
@@Firefox1189 that actually makes a lot of sense considering they were being held at gunpoint by Marines
@@dragoninthewest1 No shit.
English is difficult for Russian speakers and in stressful situations you forget everything.
These horrified men started saying high-school level excuses like "We didn't do anything, we'll leave, give us a chance to explain it" and started to act accordingly to the instructions they had which was "Use the language cart to communicate".
I've received perfect scores in all kinds of English tests be it British or American and even then I forget most basic words when I'm nervous. Can't imagine what would I do at the gunpoint.
when i hear "space marine" i keep imagining 75. caliber bolters and not astronauts with m16's
I don't think those guys would take as kindly to xenos on Luna
@@SebAnders definitely chaos space marines. Don’t take chances with heretics
Same
@@lukehahn4784 HERETIC
@@lukehahn4784 space marines are more powerful
Considering how much it costed carrying gears on moon this should have been the most expensive war in history.
this skirmish would have cost a few hundred mil. The IRL Saturn V would have been capable of delivering all three moon marines and their gear in one launch and would have cost 1.23B in today's money. But it really depends on how you break down who participated and what equipment was involved. I would assume that show NASA has cheaper options however.
@@Justowner They have the SeaDragon there.
the next chapter the soviets lauch a full assault in jamestown
@Minwon Jang my thought referred to logistical cost ratio for single piece of armory, everything would be very expensive because transportation from earth is highly inefficient.
You could have gold bars neatly stacked on the moon and you still couldn't get them back to earth at a profit. That's how expensive it is to go up there.
so this the the space version of "so anyway I started blasting"
lol
I thought the same.
Something kinda interesting about the Cold War in space. It was actually a lot less tense than you would think. First, astronauts and cosmonauts got along totally fine. Both had identical interests, had similar career paths, and were psyched about being in space. It’s far more likely that they would exchange pictures, stories and medals. Also there were agreements so that if anyone got in trouble in space and had to make an emergency landing, a Cosmonaut could land in Kansas, or an astronaut could land in Belarus without any fear of being captured.
That's why these aren't astronauts, who would not do something like this to their fellow space explorers, but gung ho marines who are brought into space.
This is why it bugs me that Rosmocosmos are being excluded from the scientific community because of the Russian-Ukraine War.
Their own government did it to themselves. Their own government is the one defunding their own program and withdrawing from cooperating.
Alas, I hope we can all have peace soon.
@@Minimeister317 Are they? I am pretty sure that the Russian crewmates on the ISS for example are totally fine
@@Gravity_studioss I was just gonna mention that
"Breathe buddy, breathe you're gonna be okay. I mean yeah we just shot you but you're gonna be okay."
Yeah breath buddy breath, ignore that your suite is depressurizing and your blood is boiling due the sudden loss of pressure.
@@Dazzxp That isnt what depressurization does. Hollywood has given people a very wrong impression of what explosive decompression in space means. You would swell up some, and the moisture in your soft tissues would likely evaporate (likely painfully) but you wouldnt die instantly or violently.
@@Justowner He didn't tho he survived, i am referring to the one that didn't catch on fire and if you look at his suit it was swelling and having bubbles in your bloodstream is agonising. It like when you surface from deep sea and you are traveling too fast the air pressure drops rapidly which can lead to death in a few minutes.
As for the other one fk knows what happened there cosmonauts didn't carry pure oxygen tanks, but i guess a bullet caused a spark in his suite which then caught fire from the electronics which than consumed all the oxygen in his tanks from the fire .
@@Dazzxp
I was only talking about the one who didnt catch fire as well.
The deep sea bubbles are because the human body isn't designed to be under THAT much pressure and then return to normal. IIRC, the gas you breathe has something to do with it as well. Going from 1atm to 0atm wouldn't at all be comparable. The actual problem isn't really the hole in the suit, its the hole in his body. I don't think anybody has really considered how a body would behave in vacuum with broken skin.
But again, the hole in his suit and loss of pressure wouldn't just magically cause his blood to boil. Also, the suit wouldn't lose all pressure instantly, this style of suit has a pressure keeping system.
yeah..."we just shot you and we just killed your pal and you might still die.........but we friends enough to call you buddy "
"According to the Lunar Resource Agreement, as long as you don't show signs of agression, americans will have to respect your legal claim on this site for mining"
Funniest shit I've ever read from a piece of paper
Extraterrestrial resource mining is going to be a crapstorm. You think countries have a hard time agreeing with each other now...
@@nicholassmith7984 not when the resources are practically infinite
@@namewasadeadmemeandcantthi184 You think there aren't those who would try to claim even infinite resources for themselves exclusively?
Besides, while the combined resources of the universe are practically infinite, our reach and the time in which we have to get these are not. Whoever gets out there first will be taking the juiciest pics for themselves, and I doubt will be much interested in sharing what they find.
@@nicholassmith7984 im not talking about the whole universe, I'm talking about just our solar system
@@nicholassmith7984 you know how many mile long asteroid are in the belt? Hundreds of millions. Just one asteroid would yield an unimaginable amount of resources. Hence, practically infinite.
“What are they saying?”
“I don’t know sir. Russian translators don’t exist in America, apparently.”
one of the russians says "we are not a threat" according to another commentor
They were saying "we are not a threat, don't shoot"
This is why all US special forces are now taught Arabic
But not all US forces that deployed in Middle East countries understand foreign cultures or languages. Watching Generation Kill fells hard to digest.
@@imranhazim5434 IS THIS MAN THREATENING ME???
@@StopFlaggingVideos "THESE PEOPLE ARE WORSE THAN THE GODDAMN VC"
@@imranhazim5434 That why he said "Special Forces" not All American Forces
Yes, 5th Special Forces, designated to the region of the middle East learn the local languages.
why did the lady start telling them in English to back away from the box when she was just speaking to them in Russian just moments before.
She had two guys behind her giving her the cover she needed if they pulled a weapon. The marines in this scene did everything wrong in deescalating the situation
What I can't understand, they shoot the first guy for reaching into the box, and the second guy was like, "Ok, I am going to fix this by also reaching into box."
She doesn't actually speak Russian. She's just reading the card on her forearm but doesn't understand when the Russian responds with "Americans. Please, lower your weapons. We are not a threat to you. Give us one minute."
@@PanzerYeena so thats what they seid
@@johnjones_1501 think the same, he just have to stay still, because, you know, your friend just got shoot
They wasn't soldiers to manage that situation
These smooth brains would be in a federal prison faster than you can say “escalation of force”.
I'd kill them myself
“Extraction? What extraction? No, you all get to sit tight and think about what you’ve done.”
they were reaching for smth and didnt even put their hands up,why tf Americans need to learn russian,why ruSSians dont know basic english when its much simpler
That makes no sense whatsoever. How often do you hear about any member of the US armed forces or police ever facing prison.
@@dogzdigital not so often as ruSSians
“Vengeance is a dish best served cold. It is very cold in space.”
Yeah, tell that to Yuri...
Tell that to Yuri's partner who took his place on one of the failed cosmonaut missions and died during reentry.
@@BSpinoza210 Oh yeah, I remember reading about that. Didn’t his chutes fail to open and his capsule just slammed into the earth?
@@thelonehussar6101 The whole mission was clusterf*ck from the very beginning. But the ultimate reason was the chutes...
Not in direct sunlight. Without insulation, you're cold on one side, and hot on the other. Your body is always radiating heat away, you can see this with thermal cameras. But the sun is a deadly laser... especially when there's no atmosphere to diffuse it.
@@AZREDFERN wait how do you radiate heat in a vacuum?
i like the attention to detail how the flame quickly dies out, as it quickly consumes what oxygen supply is left but then the suit should be skin tight because there is no more oxygen to keep him pressurized.
Fires produce CO2 and other gases. No reason why the suit would be skin-tight.
@@bluebox303 yes, wouldn't the fire pressurize the suit even more because of the expanding gas from the fire?
Not that it really matter cuz theres a hole in the suit
If they were paying attention to detail, then the oxygen wouldn’t catch fire in the first place. Oxygen isn’t flammable. It’s an oxidizer. It needs to mix with a fuel source to be flammable. We live in 20ish% oxygen. All pure oxygen does is cut the stoichiometric of a fuel by 1/5th. I know Russians have vodka for blood, but even that isn’t flammable.
@@Omatecay I didn't say anything about suit pressure. That really has nothing to do with this. And no, it's still not enough to cause a flash or fire to clothing or hair. The only fabrics around them are fire retardant, like Nomex and Aramid because you wouldn't want a freak incident to be setting people on fire. Both in the suit, and around the station. Pilots wear similar blends. They don't plan on being around fire, but the only downside is cost.
"Hello Americans, we are no threat. I will get our translation card in this small box so we can talk and chill."
*gets shot and dies in one of the worst ways possible*
Because the Americans understand them and reaching into a box while having a gun pointed at you is a great idea, right?
@@2kmichaeljordan438 In the movie, the russians had full rights to their own land, they were allowed to be there. Marines intruded on their property. If there really WAS a gun in the crate, it would take ages to pull out and the marines would recognize the basic silhouette. And, even then, if the marines did shoot the russians, they would be court martialed and jailed for a colourful rainbow of crimes.
@@fbi1319 No the Russians didn’t have full rights to that land. In that universe the Space Treaty is declared null and void.
@@eddycharles4274 americans still broke rules of engagement and ignited ww3 lmao
@@fbi1319No they didn’t lol
"Get this man some Pepto-Bismol!"
I get that reference! xD Someone should edit that in as a meme
@@Panzerfire666 Mel Brooks is a verified genius.
HE NEEDS SO MILK!
That makes me want to cry. All they were trying to do is translate back to them
Yeah. This scene really, really bothered me even though I know they're just actors.
It's quite a big fail on the plot, not a single cosmonaut, even during the hard times of the cold war, would ever go to the space or to a mission knowing that there could be US astronauts without knowing the most basics to communicate in eachothers language, even the basic " Stop"," I'm not a threat", etc. Even today many soldiers deployed on Afghanistan learned to say a few words to communicate with locals without being able to keep even a minimal conversation but some basic orders or indications.
Same, bothered the heck out of knowing they killed them for no real reason in this scene
@@Huma270490 Same could be said for the US astronauts. If they were planning to detain or forcibly search the Russian site, they would have had the responsibility to not read from a fucking script pasted to your arm.
I would even argue that since they chose to initiate contact in Russian, they should have expected to receive responses in Russian. This isn't some routine police raid or traffic stop, this is supposed to be an interaction between individuals who should have had some form of diplomatic training.
It ain’t real bud
Alt title: How to get charged with war crimes, a step by step guide to idiocy.
Step by step to becoming an american hero propably.
The dude is simultaneously being burnt alive while suffocating in a decompressed suit, and the Astronaut that shot him is like "Hold on buddy, we'll patch you up." at that point I'd just put him out of his misery. This show's writing is such ass.
I think "we'll patch you up" was directed to the one that was shot but not, y'know, burning alive.
It's ight, I guess they just needed something to push the plot forward.
@@IntelCoreI77700K bruh did a goddamn CPU just comment on a RUclips video
@@HylianKnight02 Yeah man, I gained sentients.
@@IntelCoreI77700K Now you just need a dictionary.
This is what happens when you bring some jumped up jarheads to Space.
Is that so? I beg to differ, civilian.
@@eamonia how so? I beg to differ, probable not-civilian or whatever based on the way you said that
@@PanzerkampfwagenausfTschechosl Former combat Marine, two tours in Afghanistan and yes, I saw a lot of action.
@@danielhertel5665 I beg to differ because not even the Army is this fucking stupid. I'm a former combat Marine that did two tours in Afghanistan actually and worked closely with SEALS and Force Recon while I was over there, first off. ('04-'08) Secondly, how on earth did you ever deduce that I didn't think that this whole scene is absolutely absurd? All I said was, "I beg to differ." Being that I saw a lot of action and know the rules of engagement. There were PLENTY of times that we took fire before addressing potentially hostile threats before engaging. And your little comment about me probably wounding or killing innocent civilians and/or not caring makes me wonder as to the credibility of being in a position to work with any SOFs. Lastly, no I did not engage or injury anyone who didn't engage me first. But I gotta ask, what do you do? Are you enlisted? What's your rank and how old are you?
-LCPL O'Connor, USMC '04-'08
@@eamonia ok boot boy
You know a movie is fucking dumb when astronauts don't speak TWO MAIN SPACE LANGUAGES.
Who else clicked on this expecting someone to scream “FOR THE EMPEROR!”?
No
What chapter of Astartes were these guys
Dude lol. I thought this was scenario where Earth is actually a lost world and we get contacted by the Imperium or something lmaooo
Probably the minotaurs malevolent, the assholes of the biggest degree
@@coyotelifestyle73 probably a prototype legion, given their use of stubbers and minimal ceramite plating
This whole thing was really tough to watch, it's how wars start.
Not usually? Not unless people in power already want a war.
@@StumpfForFreedom Ummmm did you forget that literally WW1 started because of an assassination of a single person....and that WW2 happen because said WW1 happen in the first place.....literally two World wars were caused because of an assassination, the Japanese invaded China under the pretext of the Marco-polo bridge incident, the US entered the Vietnam War because the Gulf of Tolkien incident I can being up more examples but, a direct shooting incident between the US and USSR could've kicked off a war easily if the USSR wanted to justify they're own reasons.
@@gregorylouis617 I may need to refresh my history, but I remember being taught that the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was used as the pretext for the war, but it's not like everyone wasn't ready for war and it wouldn't have happened otherwise.
@@Elydir Oh no with the way technology was ramping up during that era it was just an excuse for war at that point...if you build thousands of machine guns and rifles someone has to use them. The assassination turned Europe into a dogpile as Austria and Serbia were allied to other nations who themselves were aligned with others etc. Realistically that war should've been contained between the Serbs. It was just a justification for a war that was needed, if it was Ferdinand it would've been another event that tipped the scale to war.
Not really, in real life this would likely quickly be cleared up as an accident unless one of the sides wanted this. I mean there’s a little bit of understanding with this considering that even forces that are actively allied, speaking the same language, and coordinating can have blue on blue and kill each other. Formal apology would do wonders
This actually makes no sense. You're in space. Not like he's gonna QuickDraw a revolver on you
Well the Americans have guns.... They can hold their guns.... And shoot their guns... They can put their guns down.... And pick their guns up.... So when they think Russians have guns.... That they can also pick up.... And hold.... The same as the Americans.... It means..... Like does anyone even think before posting comments? Makes no sense? What doesn't make sense? The principle is no different to being on Earth. They thought they had weapons in the box.
Why not?
@@kiearnhorne9382 These people are in suits that limit mobility significantly, reaching for, grabbing, and then attempting to pull the trigger of a gun in a short amount of time is pure fantasy. The Marines would have more than enough time to shoot him if he really tried to do something like that.
@@knightlypoleaxe2501 It is not out of the realm of possibility to pull a handgun out of that box and fire in under 2 seconds.
@@kiearnhorne9382the point is that in space, it actually is.
So they easily had time to wait and see what the Russians pulled out of the box before slotting them. Especially with the marines training their M16’s on them.
Holy shit the rage I felt when the astronauts shoot them...
Rage? The cosmonauts deserved to get shot for being such retards.
@@thaddeusstevens1344 the passengers on kal deserved to be shot down for the exact same reason
@@johne3838 The passengers on KAL tried to steal a US lithium mine, had to be ejected by military force, and then were killed loitering on the perimeter while refusing to comply with armed military personnel?
@@thaddeusstevens1344 precisely
@@johne3838 ...
As an American, it pisses me off that they went in their like that without having all of the resources that they needed to prevent misunderstanding and violence
Do you mean the Americans were at fault?
Their first mistake was sending a female
@@ryanmaxwell4346 damn right they are, they should have tried to make sure some one could speak Russian, or if one of the Russians could speak English before ventilating them...
A translator would sure have been nice they could have defused the situation right away.
@@kevinmcmillin870 How's virginity treatin' ya?
i like how the russians turn IMMEDIATTLY to the Americans like they hear which direction they are lmfao
Id say radio frequencies
Theoretically they could detect where the radio signals originate from, but I kinda doubt they have that kind of equipment in their suits so likely just lazy writing.
- Houston, we have a problem here...
- What is it?
- We killed soviet cosmonaut.
- YOU WHAT?!?!!?
Marine, where’s the cosmonauts
They’re right there see? I shot em with my rifle.
You were supposed to let him grab his translator
Dude I’m gonna!
Oh really? So go get the cosmonaut
Ok I will!
*proceeds to give medical to the already dying cosmonaut*
*Cosmonaut dies*
I see the problem.
Oh DO YA?!
Real talk, though, in the situation the Cosmonauts are in, here, I would have stood where I was the entire time and just motioned for the Americans to look into the box, and rough sign-languaged out paper and speaking. A monkey would be able to understand what I meant, and I wouldn't be acting like a spy going for a killswitch.
It was stupid for the first guy to reach into that box, but the second guy? Holy shit
What kind of killswitch on the moon? a gun? takes ages to get ourt of the box and aim while the "enemy" is already aiming you down with their weapons. Sam applies for pistols. A grenade or any other explosives? You are an astronaut with billions worth of training and equpment on you and you value your live so no you dont go suicde bomber on the moon. Apart from that ot would be even slower and the first applies again.
The marines behaved like they were on earth with earth gravity. Apparently they missed the basic training for "how the fucking moon works"
@@noobster4779 You don't move THAT slow on the moon my dude. Have you never seen footage of astronauts on the moon? The russians could have EASILY grabbed a pistol from the crate, turned it towards the americans while still in the crate (wrists are a thing) and then opened fire the second they lifted it out of the crate. One of those marines could be shot before they even had a chance to react. This is why you don't do anything other than raise your hands when a gun's pointed at you. NOBODY is going to just sit there and wait for you to potentially pull a weapon and murder them.
@@noobster4779 remember they we're marine aviators, short pilots, they weren't trained enough for combat on the moon, also the fact that you are enclosed into a small bubble of pure oxygen with virtually no protection agaist any firearm put the also in a mood "how shoot first, lives"
Who would've expected to be held at gunpoint in space?
Russians: *Calmly and slowly reach into case, making sure all their movements are seen clearly*
Marines: *Shoot them*
Bruh.
Bro you cant calmly reach into suspicious crates when ppl are holding you at gunpoint it's hands up for a fucking reason
@@imperialofficer6185 They're were three marines. Only one Russian reached their hand into the box. You have the advantage if they pull a weapon.
@@imperialofficer6185 I dont quite remember, but I assume they were on russian land. So no, they dont have to put their hands up, infact, according to most US law (stand-your-ground, etc) russiand could legally have fired at the marines.
Dude, you don't reach for something while people are pointing weapons at you and telling you to stop. The Russians should have pointed at the box, or something else besides looking like they were reaching for a gun, bomb, etc.
@@ducksandstories I'm 85% sure the Marines had them at gunpoint bc the Russians were trespassing on US territory.
What the cosmonauts (who were probably miners or scientists, not soldiers) did wrong: made a suspicious move. They should have just backed away and let the Americans see that they were harmless.
What the marines did wrong: failed to remain calm in a situation which demanded calm, did not have someone with a passable knowledge of Russian, made a somewhat baseless assumption about the contents of that case, and failed to confirm what the Russians were actually doing before acting. What they SHOULD have done was kept level heads, and waited until the cosmonauts removed whatever they were reaching for before determining that a threat existed.
what if it was a pistol...or a detonator, a grenade that can be primed without even taking it out of the case, flashbang, sometimes its too late if they take it out of the box, they should have told them to stop, or don't move, all done behind cover, and at the end of the day, effective communication saves the day
well americans are triggerhappy all the time :D
@@LMau-t9r buddy it's kinda stupid for them to carry explosives you understand this is moon right? I don't think russia would allow them to have one. They are not soldiers and the least that they expect in moon is hostility And they just opened fire, communication is very vital if they are on foreign soil hell even in ww2 translators are very important in every unit and they didn't bother to do that here?
There's really no point saying in hindsight what should have been done. It's not what happened lol
@@bryce251 looking back on what should have been done is how we consider future actions
Cosmonaut: **literally burning alive**
Astronauts: *pAcH yu Op boDDy*
My dumbass was expecting Warhammer 40k space marines to shoot heretics.
This is why you always wait until you see an actual gun before opening fire.
Good way to get shot.
@Stormi Seudonym The marines had their guns already trained on them, the cosmonaut would have no time to react because the suit is clunky and he will probably have to turn really fast to hit em, not to mention he would likely miss his first shot.
@@stormisuedonym4599 that's the whole point of training your guns on them. So when you see a weapon, they don't have time to react.
@@PaRaDOX-de8bk Are you a moon marine? have you ever got into gunfights on the moon? how do you know whats fast and what isnt. what if he had a grenade.
@@ruskibot7745 there is less gravity on the moon but that doesn't exactly mean it's easy to move, if you watched the moon landing footage you would know that they moved slowly, not to mention they tried to run on the moon and fell over, so I don't think that they can move fast to get anything out, even a grenade will probably be easily spotted and delt with.
When the authorities are so convinced that they are right about the supposed enemy, that for them the dehumanization of the opponent in the eyes of their soldiers is higher than a banal translator, and there is not even time for dialogue.
They're Communists.
Y'know: "WE WILL BURY YOU"
The Soviets were pretty clear about wanting to nuke America.
@@JoshSweetvale I see, one of the space marines from the video has replied to this comment.
@@PanzerkampfwagenausfTschechosl If I was on the ground, I wouldn't risk Cosmonauts in line of sight of the American base.
@@JoshSweetvale bruh you must be a cosmonaut cause you high af
@@JoshSweetvale Funny how the red scare affects people even today
I love how they made it so realistic. You actually can't hear anything in space. You can't even hear a gun fire either.
You'd be able to hear gunshots in a vacuum as long as you were the one shooting. You wouldn't be able to hear it very well, but you would be able to hear it nonetheless.
@@RacistFemboyFox You would actually,but extremely faint as the vibration of the shot vibrates the gun,makes the vibration weaker,goes through your thick suit and you barely hear a thing,but nobody else would be able to hear it
@@floseatyard8063 I bet that when walking around in a vacuum on planets without an atmosphere becomes ubiquitous, well probably have ambient sound synthesis so it sounds like a normal environment, like they have in Elite Dangerous.
@@RacistFemboyFox There would be no ambient noise, there's still no air so not even some ambient noise could occur,Maybe on thin atmospheres like mars during windy times but on the moon? Definitely not
@@floseatyard8063 That's why I'm saying the sounds would by synthesized. Of course sound wouldn't travel without a medium.
This reminds me of that space mission in COD Ghosts.
The sheer incompetence of the characters in this scene hurts my head
Hands with palms facing towards the threat is pretty much universally known as a sign of surrender or at least no harm
The woman said to surrender and they answered by saying: "we are unarmed, we are inoffensive, don't shoot", the woman should have understood them😅
Its mandatory for every Astronaut to know russian.
and for every Kosmonaut to know english
at least nowadays it is
"Breathe in that 1400 degree air buddy, there ya go, breathe."
the fact none of the astronauts on either side knew a bit of the others language is flat bs.
both the us and Russia have as a requirement for entering the space programs, to be fluent in multiple languages, english and russian being among them.
That requirement is modern. It only exists because US astronauts have to launch from Russian sites. I don't think it would've applied in this world, where there is no US - USSR collaboration until the mid 80s. As for not knowing the others' language, the cosmonaut who was shot and survived briefly speaks English at the base, and later more soviet cosmonauts show up and also speak English. As for him not speaking Russian here, that makes sense. I mean, several astronauts show up, yelling at you in Russian, why would you reply in English?
The sound effects as they first get shot are hysterical
What should of been then? Moans?
Well there’s no sound on the moon so realistic
They are using spacesuit coms systems
It does sound kind of funny
(Dead silence)
UNF
(Dead silence)
@@Unregistered.Hypercam.2. it sounded like one of those ugandan movies when they fight
Congrat! Karen u started WW3 :))
Next episode: no the USSR
Women shouldn’t of even been there
@@cloudtail yep
Moon War I
@@uppo9301 well here we call Moon war but back on earth will be WW3 :d
ive never heard of this show before, and this clip alone makes me wish it stayed that way
Thanks for sharing this, my prejudices concerning the quality of writing on this show have been confirmed. You've saved me at least half an hour of my life.
Good, then you also won't see a gross make out between a woman and her dead sons grown friend she's known since childhood. This episode PPPthhh!
I heard some people say this show was comparable to the Expanse, at least as a hard sci-fi show, being somewhat of the same quality.
Good to know they were wrong and I don't need to waste my time.
How were they burning? How did their suits not explode while decompressing? How did I shit YOUR pants? These are all mysteries.
I feel like this all could’ve been avoided if the the Russians just did some “come look” hand gestures while backing off
Yeah, but then the Americans couldn't have been "wrong".
or if the astronauts did shit properly..
What about just quit bringing fucking weapons to the moon since its not suppose to be militarised
Dude, the two Russian cosmonaut said: "we are inoffensive, we are unarmed, don't shoot"
"Wait, it's all for a case?"
"Always has been."
Back at base “A round of Crayons for er’body!”
Now I’m wondering how they were smart enough to get sent to space
1:48 rewatching this, i think the cosmonaut is trying to say "wait one minute"
The russians are basically saying "we are no threat to you. We wont make any abrupt movements. We will explain everything."
Karens are already dangerous on earth, now imagine them in space...
They'd just kill themselves by trying to spacewalk back to earth.
They'd probably end up proclaiming that space is breathable and end up dying to their own stupidity
🤣🤣🤣🤣
What the cosmonauts said roughly translates to: we are no threat, please let me get my-
Family would’ve kept those cosmonauts alive..
This scene portrays SPACE COMBAT SO AMAZINGLY!
Shooting unarmed dudes? This wasn't combat my guy that was murder.
I think you're an american as well.
@@handel2488 ?
Except how they go flying when they get hit with a 5.56mm round traveling at 3200fps in 1/6th Earth's gravity. It would have just punched a hole straight through them. Especially being that those suits weigh upwards of 200 lbs. So, what the Hell were you talking about?
For a country with billions of dollars, you would expect for them to have a translator on site.
Kid: “Mooom, I want a space marine so our family can start doling out the cleansing fires of purgation to heretics and sinners!”
Mom: “We have a space marine at home.”
The space marine at home: 2:49
Kindest American interaction
nah son, this is the dumbest American interaction. I assure you that a marine would probably wait 2 seconds to see the gun. also I like ur pfp
@@lordofmeow To be fair, I kind of rage posted the above comment. But yeah you right. And thanks.
@@YuriKaulous I also didn’t like seeing the cosmonauts get shot. Totally on these Neanderthals in space over here
ive played enough STALKER to know the cosmonauts said "please there's no need for weapons" or something to that effect
“пожалуйста пустите оружие” means roughly “please put down your guns” so youre right
These astronauts must be cops
I get that they're marines, but they've never heard of a warning shot? Maybe put a couple rounds in the lid of the box to say "Hey, no touchy!"
You shoot at the ground in front and not he lid because of bullet ricochets
@@Dazzxp it's 5.56, not a nerf dart. It's gonna punch through that lid like it doesn't exist.
@@David-tl6lv Man, if only NASA equipped 'em with the Claridge Hi-Tec Goncz. Woulda made sure the Soviets didn't touch any of their shit that's for sure buhahahaha! Hooah, anybody remember that movie Clerks? Classic New Jersey flick, I tell ya! Anyway, I'm gonna go test out my new extended mag for the Goncz, now packin' 32 bullets of Hungarian steel.
@@tonightsbiggestgamer7078 A rambling, incoherent attempt at a joke that's taking the piss out of a point nobody is making. Interesting.
not even really necessary though. Even if the soviets pulled a gun out they would take ages to get it ready and aim it compared to the americans that have them rifled down at the ready. The marines should just have waited because there was literally NO THREAT to them even if they pulled out a gun.
This isnt earth gravity, everything is so slow thqat the first person that aims wins inmmidiatly.
Nice of NASA to outsource to the local Police Stations for recruits
so.. american cops finally launched the lunar branch?
Not funny
No, Marines, travel to exotic, distant lands; meet exciting, unusual people and kill them.
@@drewwinnging516 its kinda funny
@@drewwinnging516 but accurate
@@drewwinnging516 it is funny and accurate.
I love this, but it bugs me that the sling loop on their M-16s swings like it would in 1g.
Better question is how can the m16 cycle on the moon?
@@bricklesskiwi376 Modern gunpowders are made of nitrated organic compounds, either nitrocellulose plus stabilizer or nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin. Those compounds have all the oxygen they need bonded to the organic molecule, which then decomposes under intense heat and pressure. If you burned it in an empty chamber it would probably self-extinguish as the hot gasses would puff off into the vacuum, but the barrel of an m16 and the cartridge prevent the gas released from escaping before the powder burns.
@@hidude398 Is it possible to do TLDR version?
@@dougwillis5069 bullet no need air to go boom-boom
@@hithere5553 thx man
having an m203 on the fucking moon is fucking overkill
I still can't believe with all this footage people still think the landings are fake smh
"Speesh Marieens. The Enemy is at hour door"
BATTAL BRUHTHUHS
I just died of laughter after saying "speesh marieens"
“We’re gonna patch you up”
While he’s literally burning alive in a spacesuit
*sees title of Space Marines*
Emperor of Mankind: "Hahahahahahahaha! That's cute."
My favorite thing is all the people blaming the Russians when the Americans weren't even facing a clear threat lmao "I shot him before he could threaten me". Seems legit. Must be American cops, NASA sent up there.
Nah, just standard rules of engagement for most countries.
They employ it in warzones too. If someone's acting suspicious enough that they are deemed a threat, the person with a gun is given the authority to shoot before the baddie could get a shot off.
@@Firefox1189 that's why when a car is barreling down on a group of U.S. soldiers the ROE and their training says to pop off warning shots then move to attempting to disable the vehicle before actually resorting to shooting the occupants, right? Lol you're full of shit, my guy. If they shot at anyone "acting suspicious" there would be nobody left to shoot because "acting suspicious" is completely subjective.
@@CGDubz87 reaching into a bag you can't see into? for all you know it's a bomb or gun, also why was a little paper slip kept in a large container?
Anyways that's why translators are necessary when your doing patrols.
@@georgethompson1460 For all you know, it's a peace offering to show the trigger jumpy Americans that they're not a threat. You're not gonna have a good life if you're always hypervigilant and expecting the worst out of people.
Also, the paper slip was probably kept in a large container because that's what containers are meant for. Keeping things in. Granted we don't know what, if anything else, was in the container, but basic reasoning says that paper slip wasn't the only thing in the whole container.
I Served in the US Military while yes you’re correct about our ROEs if someone is driving a car towards you to hit you, you are allowed to bypass all other ROEs and shoot the driver same thing as what happened here they were reaching into a box a box the Americans couldn’t see into they followed ROEs correctly and it was a good shoot sad it happened yes but they did what they needed to do
Ahh American Tradition, Shoots starnger: seconds later...
"Dont worry buddy, well patch you up!"
Hmm..makes senssssee
Unless those sights are like integrated with a view in their helmets… well I just don’t see them being able to aim or hit shit really
Both did wrongs:
US astros shot them without confirmation that they were hostile. 4 armed to 2 unarmed its pretty clear no cosmo would try to fight, they also can't pull a weapon out fast and shoot them.
USSR cosmos also made themselves look suspicious, try to give more signals or speak broken english if desperate. 2nd cosmo look even more suspicious rushing his hand to the box when his friend was shot for doing the same
the real fault came from the USA, they sent trigger happy jarheads instead of a translator.
The second guy propably just paniced in the situation because he was most likely not trained to expect his college beeing shot on the bloody moon while knowing something so utterly dumb might start WW3.
And here I was expecting Space Marines of the Imperium. At least they would have finished the job.
A grenade launcher in zero gravity???😂. Your gonna regret your own shrapnel commin right back at ya!😘
There is no such thing as zero gravity
Although practically there is gravity, you have a good point, that type of weapon would be very silly to use at short and even medium range on the Moon.
@@NiquidFox Im from earth ther eis such thingh as zero gravity or not
@@mollies13 There isn't. Gravity cannot have a value of 0, otherwise the math wouldn't work. The universal gravitational constant is : G = 6.67e-11
@@NiquidFox Yes there slight of gravity of moon just weak dense than earth
2:26 in space
you can't heard a gunshot instead of BANG
The people holding the guns should hear it though due to vibrations transmitting the sound.
When I read space marines out loud, I swear I heard a guy down the street yell “FOR THE EMPEROR!!!”
I find it funny that everyone is taking this seriously and acting like this actually happened and that it’s not just from an Apple TV show
Thats the point of watching series and movies
Getting inmersed and attached to the characters and even if we know this is not real it will still make us angry when something like this happens
With how hard it is to move around in space suits I’m surprised they short before even seeing anything
While moving in space is kinda slow and awkward, it isn’t a snails pace. Hell, this is controversial but you could say the cosmonauts could have grabbed a gun from the case and shot a marine before getting shot, assuming the marines are not already pointing guns at him like in the video.
"iS tHaT a GuN?!" I thought astronauts were smart
Was this scene before or after the Spacenaz infiltrated that American base with rifle fire at the window?
Before
They attacked the US base to retaliate after the incident
Clearly before as here they captured the cosmonaut here, while killing the other one and the base attack was to get their comrade back and well revenge.
@@Dazzxp clearly hu? Clearly
@@redlight8302 👈🏻thank you. Idk why other people have to ramble on about absolutely nothing important when all it takes is one word. Thanks for your common sense and being a normal dude. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
This shit is sad af
I noticed one of the Marines has a M203 mounted under his gun. If he ever had to use that he would probably kill himself from thr shrapnel from the grenade explosion, especially in low gravity.
i mean, he could have different type of round there, like smoke for example
there's more than one kind of 40mm round after all
@@ks_starsim Or a lower charge
I never like how dumb some details of this serie, like for example how it portray the astronaut been able to walk normaly on the moon, when the real astronaut suits are so dense that it didn´t allow the astronaut to walk but rather jump around (together with the low gravity).
Also I don´t know how they can aim with those guns while using an astronaut suit.
History channel at 3am be like
i love how their logic is quite literally "shoot first ask questions later"
This scene how how the US army rush in its actions, shooting unarmed cosmonauts with an american-soviet treaty
You become armed the second people point guns at you, and you reach for something
Well that was pretty ruthless.
Sweet baby Jesus i did not expect to see a cosmonaut on fire
This makes me feel sad for the 2 cosmonauts.
My initial question was "Why did the guy light on fire?" but then it clicked. Did the bullet ignite the oxygen in their suit?
I'm confused
The quick loss of pressure caused the oxygen in the suit to ignite and I don’t think this is what happened, but if you go into space without a space suit the part facing the sun would boil because there is no protection against the UV rays, which may have done something but not likely. Basically, loss of pressure.
@@PanzerkampfwagenausfTschechosl Oxygen to ignite? If oxygen is flammable why doesn't my room burn when light a candle
@@floseatyard8063 because Co2 is heavier than air. As the carbon dioxide surrounds the candle or flame, it pushes oxygen out of the way, thus keeping the air from igniting. But in this situation, kinda hard to do that inside of a piece of cloth.
@@PanzerkampfwagenausfTschechosl Oh ok
@@PanzerkampfwagenausfTschechosl Just looked it up,oxygen isn't flammable but it allows other close objects to burn easily,so it's not the oxygen burning but the co2 just prevents it from spreading fast? Or would it just be because we have less than 30 percent oxygen in our atmo?
You would think that your first instinct would be to put your hands up and motion towards the one thing you can use to communicate with.
I'm not that good with language, but I think a gun pointed at you is a pretty universal indicator of "No sudden movements" and hands going up is another universal indicator of "Please don't hurt me"