They won't necessarily jump ahead ten years right away. Foreshadowing can be much more ambiguous than that. But totally agree with your statement that it was a great way to end the season. Great stuff!
1950: In 70 years we will have flying cars. 2020: We are more concerned with the race, equity and social justice enough to start unrest, rioting and the breakdown of the American experiment. Nice job America!!
@@danahan01 when an actuality people (AKA "progressives") are concerned about made up problems instead of real ones(like American infrastructure, the immigration crisis, advocating for groups that actually getting oppressed like Tibetans and Muslims in China) while solving these "problems" by burning down and looting the businesses of the race that they claim to support, getting mad at anyone on a social media platform for making a joke for having the wrong opinion, dividing America and ruining American cities (which is ultimately why the American experiment failed), and most importantly hating on white people and israelian people (for no reason) whilst claiming minority groups as Superior before belittling them all over again, instead of advancing as a species and taking the next steps to traveling space.(yeah the other timeline seems more appealing after the funny stuff you said)
A detail that I haven’t heard anyone talk about yet: in the shot over Shackleton crater at 3:43 you see dozens of lights, indicating that Jamestown and Zvezda are both much larger and possible are settlements with hundreds of people.
The expansions are likely things to make it more self-sufficient. Probably growhouses that use Hydroponics to grow food and supplement oxygen. You combine that with that 2nd nuclear reactor Jamestown base got after Sea Dragon 16 and this could spiral into further expansion.
You can see a small dim triangle some distance from Jamestown. I suspect that this is either a European, Japanese, Chinese, Indian base or a launchpad on the moon. Or maybe it’s just the place they go to to collect Sea Dragon cargo.
@@fork9001 I just thought of a possible plot line for season 3. Aleda gets sent to Jamestown to help build the Mars rocket being launched from lunar orbit; becoming the first Mexicana Astronaut
@@dragoninthewest1 That’s a great idea. She could be a “payload specialist” on a flight. Edit: She could be a payload specialist on the Marshal mission to set up things (base, lander, electrical systems etc., depends on what the show does).
That depends on if she went to the CIA and the CIA potentially uses her to give the Russians bad information on purpose. Don’t know if your aware but it’s long been rumored Buran had issues on re-entry cause the CIA deliberately tweaked the design documents enough to create a fail point with the heart shield. Then deliberately left them out where a suspected Russian KGB operative could access them.
This also assumes that she becomes aware that she is the target / subject of a "Honey Trap" espionage operation. "Honey Traps" have been something that Russian intelligence agencies have considerable experience and success in execution.
@@jaytimmerman992 true but if your a government official who’s the least bit unsure chances are if you mention something like that to a presidential advisor, you’ll, definitely have a CIA official talking to you to see how they can turn this to their advantage. See the Soviets were good at “ honey traps”. But few could match the CIA for turning a “ bad situation “ into a huge advantage for them. That and good ole hard currency have ways of turning stuff your way
Hugely disappointing they went to the effort of setting up a what could have been a really interesting plot point then immediately step into the TARDIS
Most of them will be in their 50’s, so relax- Except for Karen and Ed. Ed will be in his 70’s, and Karen In her 60’s, so Ed is really the only old one.
@@ondrejsimek2561 By a 5th season, 6th for other original main characters- Most of them will be in their 50’s in season 3- Ed will be in his 70’s, and probably Molly too, but other than that, none of them are ‘old’.
I'm getting the feeling that the underlying message of FAM is "We might wish for peace and even work for peace but, in the end, there is only room for one at the top."
Exactly like the title suggested "The Grey". Russian took over US lithium site, US tried to put nuclear weapons on the moon and first to kill people there. USSR is using Sergei and Margo to infiltrate NASA; despite both sides trying to appear peaceful.
Not really sure where you're getting that from, given that time and time again the goal of a united humanity is lauded. Season 3 takes this even further, with the united American/Soviet/Helios/DPRK team left on Mars.
It's actually kind of the opposite. More like: It's in our nature to fight and make war, but we can always do better and make peace. The whole heart of the show was in that scene where Dani quotes Star Trek: "We can admit that we're killers, but we're not going to kill today." That's why I love this show so much, and why the S2 finale holds such a place in my heart. We get to see two people be heroes, not by destroying their enemies, but by using brains and guts and risking their careers and lives for peace. Dani having the guts to disobey Houston and go ahead with the handshake, and Ed using brains to find a solution that didn't involve shooting down Buran. We love to glorify our war heroes when they kill our enemies- but I love that FAM shows us that sometimes it's more heroic to make peace, not war. It's fashionable now for "serious" shows to skew darker and more nihilistic. Optimism is not fashionable anymore. But this show, in classic RDM fashion, likes to always take us to the brink, warn us about what could happen if we listen to the devils on our shoulders, and then show us how to overcome that instinct and allow our better angels to prevail. To intentionally misquote X-Men: Peace is always an option.
There's not many shows that I watch with eager anticipation, but this became one of them; a show you can't stop talking about. This final scene reaffirmed that sentiment.
@@hazri8758 what if John Lennon living Butterfly Effects into a number of other artists/ celebrities surviving for a myriad of reasons. John Lennon being bisexual himself goes on to promotes LGBT acceptance in the 1980s and 1990s. The near death experience made him to pursue more actively his humanitarian work. Add to the fact that Reagan would be getting out in 84, you could see the survival of many AIDS victims possibly Freddie Mercury.
Crushed the 2nd season this past week and can confirm this is an absolute gem of a show. With a finale which will shoots itself straight into the conversation of 'best tv finales ever'. The Grey is bar raising stuff. Boots on Mars
"No, I don't have a gun"... 😳😳😳I don't know if it was on purpose; but it perfectly describes the situation of Danielle and Kuznetsov at the end of the ninth episode of the third season🤯🤯🤯. Congratulations to the producers and writers of this amazing series👏👏👏.
Totally agree. I ve never heard about this show and I saw something about it on Tiktok like 2 weeks ago. I searched about it on streaming and I just finished season 2. If it wasnt only on AppleTV it would be VERY popular.
I liked the first season, absolutely hated the second one - and I ain't watching the 3rd. In the first season they had some respect for hard science and realism, in the second season not only was it all destroyed but the actual storytelling was so bad, that at points show went against what it just established earlier in the very same episode. It was a shitfest. So when you say "the best show of the last decade" I have no idea what you have watched other than it. The writing is down right terrible - no two ways about it. That, paired with terrible science and effects - I am surprised how and why it even got renewed for season 3. I mean, season 1 was review bombed for being "woke fest" with "terrible writing", which it was not. Season 2 was in fact all that, and it got 100% on Rotten... yeah, I smell a rat and one thick envelope full of cash delivered to certain people. If only they used that money to pay for the half decent writers...
What if this show is a backdoor pilot for a BSG sequel. With the rapid advancement of technology in this timeline, I would assume there be a rise in Robotic technology.
@@samusaran11 this is cool. Hope they drop a small easter egg from the bsg finale. Afterall, the colony arrived on earth and in that timelapse we see ron moore with a nat geo mentioning celestial chariots (raptors)...
I agree, although I do feel that we're on the verge of a new era of space exploration now that private companies are starting to develop their own rockets :)
@@hazri8758 Truly. It’s definitely some creative writing, but I really just dislike the character. Never really liked her, since I just saw her as being jealous about Mrs. Stevens, and as soon as I start to feel bad for her near the end of season 1, season 2 and begin to respect her; she takes a turn for the worse and fucks her late best friend’s son….. I mean, W. T. F.
@@valerie80yearsago90 same with me. I can understand if she's mad because she hates to be worried about Ed, but she doesn't need to take it that way. Now I feel really sorry for Ed. First, his wife slept with someone. Second, his best buddy died. Actually dropped some tears during the funeral scene 💔 It's getting worse when I remember that his wife slept with his buddy's son.. That's just messed up, Karen.
@@hazri8758 no kidding… I think Ed might just be my favorite character from any TV series. Poor guy dealt with his son dying while he was on the moon, does all these great things & thought all of it manages to stay loyal to his wife. Then out of nowhere this psycho woman decides to stab the poor guy in the back like that. Truly, a shame.
@@valerie80yearsago90 you both described all my feelings about Ed and Karen. Just finished the season 2 right now and I feel so bad for Ed. Best character for me, he s strong because everything is against him.
@@bebekalo5029 Ah disagree, if the colonisation of the moon continues, then some kind of private sector will eventually emerge (if anything it should happen faster in this timeline, cause of all the tech developed) This would especially be true if NASA/USSR focus is now Mars.
Watching the last episode of Season 2: Well, I wonder who going to get to Mars? I can't wait for next season to see what happens. Watches Season 3, Episode 9: Well, shit.
If the Challenger Accident didn't happen in the alternate timeline, how would the "Teacher In Space Project" with Christa McAuliffe and Barbara Morgan have played out?
In the alternate timeline the ''teacher in space project'' probably didn't happen. The whole reason NASA did that project was to try capture the public's interest in space again (and as a result get more funding), but in the For All Mankind timeline, public interest didn't seem to waver and NASA wasn't under-funded as it is these days.
The show was renewed for two seasons after S1, so yes, there will be a third season. As for the possibility of Dr. Ride doing prison time, look on the bright side: she might have Margo as a cellmate!
I foresee a common effort between USA and Russia to get humans to Mars, and of course the first 5 episodes of the third season on both governments arguing on whether it's an american or a russian the first one to set foot on Mars
@@ethanmcfarland8240 Nirvana - *_Come As You Are_* Lyrics: Come as you are, as you were As I want you to be As a friend, as a friend As an old enemy Take your time, hurry up Choice is yours, don't be late Take a rest as a friend As an old Memoria, memoria Memoria, memoria Come doused in mud, soaked in bleach As I want you to be As a trend, as a friend As an old Memoria, memoria Memoria, memoria And I swear that I don't have a gun No, I don't have a gun No, I don't have a gun Memoria, memoria Memoria
Love that they used Come As You Are and teach the young viewers that the 90s produced more than just the Backstreet Boys and the Spice Girls. 🤣 And there was room for everyone on the radio and the charts. Way more inclusive than the music scene nowadays.
I wonder how they’re going to explain the Soviet survival into the 1990s. The USSR in real life had real economic problems in the 1980s due to its uncompetitive economy, large amounts of debt to the west and unproductive heavy industry. Does Gorbachev ever gain power in this timeline? Does he or somebody else manage to renew the USSR? It’d be cool if they come up with a way for the Soviets to put the Americans on the back foot, with a re-energised Soviet state refreshing its claim to the leadership of humanity’s future. It would be a change from the US technological superiority of the 1980s
Well, as far as we know: the USSR never sent troops to Afghanistan, minus one reason for the collapse, Andropov was much more successful in the universe of the series and possibly managed to get the USSR out of "stagnation". But it is really very interesting question - what the situation is inside the USSR - which factions are now in control of the country.
@@Speedwagon.. I think andropov still run the ussr and warsaw pact is still intact, the only think that will be different is germany will still be united
Alas, none of this was ever meant to be. Instead, the resources needed to explore and permanently inhabit the Moon and Mars were re-directed to economic development in East Asia, South and Southeast Asia, and Africa. And so it goes.
Your are telling me that if the soviets had got to the moon first then we would had humans on mars befroe Malcom in the middle even aired?! Hell even before Independence day got out?!
It's not an unreasonable assumption. The entire moon race was, after all, sparked by the Soviets beating the US to orbit: had John Glenn been first,the US would've likely declared victory and never cared about manned space ever again. After all, the Moon has no military value and resource exploitation only makes economic sense to fuel other space endeavours, so there's no traditional pressures that could fuel crewed spaceflight.
Does anyone in the comments speak Russian and can translate exactly what is said? I got that "Burana" was mentioned which probably refers to Margo giving the info regarding O-rings.
Russian: “Good, very good.” Sergei: “She will not come” Russian: “We will see, She already opened the door with Buran; by the time she realizes she is working for us, it will already be too late” @HeysemberthKingdom-Brunel
Lol the real Buran did not have them as it took off on an Energia launch vehicle without boosters and a side tank and, unlike a real shuttle, could fly to the moon.
Yes. Sergei Korolev, the father of Soviet cosmonautics, dreamed of flying to Mars and developed flight plans. Perhaps if he lived longer, he could fulfill his dream of flying to Mars.
Season 3. . The years 1989 to 1991 are decisive for the east and west.; . in the east, the berlin wall collapses, however, germany remains separate; in the ussr, Gorbachev's reforms have a positive result, waning the nationalist wave, and strengthening the socialist state; China rises as a great power in the communist world facing the ussr and its space program; .in the West, a deep social and financial crisis destroys jobs and generates discontent, in Western Europe, ultranationalist groups ascend, creating difficulties in any rapprochement with the East; in the us the abyss is more evident, and the answer to the demonstrations is the coercion and militarization of the police; . in 1993 the US strengthens its ties with nato, bringing Israel into the alliance, as well as creating a new alliance in the far east against China and its allies, which stresses the ussr and its allies to move to contain nato expansion and gather new allies such as Egypt and Syria; . in 1994 the ussr once again surpasses the USA with the landing on mars, as well as the completion of the almaz military space station and the dismantling of the support network for nationalist movements within the ussr, with the victory of Boris Yeltsin's arrest; . due to the financial crisis, NASA is stagnant from projects since 1989, until the Soviet landing on Mars, at the request of President Clinton, NASA receives the mission to overcome the Soviet success, as well as, provide the USA with a capable of surpassing the soul. . . on the moon, jamestown and zvezda share mining areas and support each other, due to budget cuts, flights to jamestown are reduced, becoming dependent on Soviet supply pods; new bases appear on the moon, built by ESA and China, and negotiations begin to create a common body that unites the lunar bases in a single lunar city.
Even in the 60s NASA was making plans to land on mars. The loss of the insane budgets of the moon landing era however nipped their attempts in the bud which is why they never finished it.
The primary tech needed to get to Mars is propulsion, which they canonically continued developing and managed to make work well enough to enable TSTO lunar launches. That last bit is perhaps a little unrealistic, but NTRs for interplanetary travel are a sound idea, no reason to think they couldn't be made to work with 10+ years of continuous development. Everything else was available by the late 1970s. They'd have to solve the radiation problem but that's engineering, no fundamental science breakthroughs required.
The biggest issue is that going to Mars is not like going to the Moon. You can't just land on the surface, plant a flag and go home. Even if we assume that this journey can be shortened to about 3 months instead of 6, still by the time you get to Mars, Earth is almost on the opposite side of it's orbit and the launch window is closed. So you would have to wait for over a year for the planets to aline again. That means supplies like food, water and oxygen for months to reach Mars + over a year on Mars + months to go back to Earth. Not to mention you would need a base on the surface. So it would be a primarily logistical challenge.
@@silvercapricorn4810 Yeah, exactly my point: once you have working NTRs, the challenge lies in engineering and logistics (IOW, time and funding). Propulsion is a fundamental barrier, since time spent in transit is the most dangerous and psychologically problematic phase of the mission. Everything else is logistics and development, and they'd have been practicing logistics of offworld living for...two and a half decades, by the time of that post-credits scene. ALTHOUGH,on a final note, with operational Sea Dragon, you could probably do a Mars Reference 5.0 mission with chemical rockets, too. It would be more awkward and dangerous, but those 500 tons to LEO give you options.
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Wow! What a way to end a season. A time jump of a decade AND also showing that Moon is now old news in the alternate 1990s.
They won't necessarily jump ahead ten years right away. Foreshadowing can be much more ambiguous than that. But totally agree with your statement that it was a great way to end the season. Great stuff!
I don't think there is a time jump
@@davidcarter2720 the end credits scene of ep. 10 of season one only appeared after SIX EPISODES into the new season
Good God this comment section is collectively so unbelievably stupid.
@@superbananas7792 agreed
Alternate 1995: Manned mission to Mars.
Actual 2021: Small drone briefly flies on Mars.
1950: In 70 years we will have flying cars.
2020: We are more concerned with the race, equity and social justice enough to start unrest, rioting and the breakdown of the American experiment. Nice job America!!
@@danahan01 when an actuality people (AKA "progressives") are concerned about made up problems instead of real ones(like American infrastructure, the immigration crisis, advocating for groups that actually getting oppressed like Tibetans and Muslims in China) while solving these "problems" by burning down and looting the businesses of the race that they claim to support, getting mad at anyone on a social media platform for making a joke for having the wrong opinion, dividing America and ruining American cities (which is ultimately why the American experiment failed), and most importantly hating on white people and israelian people (for no reason) whilst claiming minority groups as Superior before belittling them all over again, instead of advancing as a species and taking the next steps to traveling space.(yeah the other timeline seems more appealing after the funny stuff you said)
@@danahan01 Ah, of course the cons brought in their politics to a fucking alternate history space show's ending comment section
@@pixel6698 You sound like someone upset that the Jews keep complaining about the Nazis.
Good God this comment section is so unknowingly stupid.
A detail that I haven’t heard anyone talk about yet: in the shot over Shackleton crater at 3:43 you see dozens of lights, indicating that Jamestown and Zvezda are both much larger and possible are settlements with hundreds of people.
The expansions are likely things to make it more self-sufficient. Probably growhouses that use Hydroponics to grow food and supplement oxygen. You combine that with that 2nd nuclear reactor Jamestown base got after Sea Dragon 16 and this could spiral into further expansion.
You can see a small dim triangle some distance from Jamestown. I suspect that this is either a European, Japanese, Chinese, Indian base or a launchpad on the moon. Or maybe it’s just the place they go to to collect Sea Dragon cargo.
@@fork9001 I just thought of a possible plot line for season 3. Aleda gets sent to Jamestown to help build the Mars rocket being launched from lunar orbit; becoming the first Mexicana Astronaut
@@dragoninthewest1 That’s a great idea. She could be a “payload specialist” on a flight.
Edit: She could be a payload specialist on the Marshal mission to set up things (base, lander, electrical systems etc., depends on what the show does).
@@dragoninthewest1 SPOILERS FOR S3
How tf did you get that right
Twist: The astronaut is Cobain.
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BIGGER TWIST: the cosmonaut is Cobain.
Still bigger twist: they find a monolith in Jupiter.
Even bigger twist! Dave Grohl didn't survive the 90's. He overdosed in 1994 and the Foo Fighters never came to exist.
@@kaziu312 lol
He brought shotgun with him to Mars...
Plot twist: they go to Mars and they find Musk there waiting for them with a teleportation device and a home made space suit.
Margo will probably be 5 years into her 30 year espionage jail sentence by the time series three starts
That depends on if she went to the CIA and the CIA potentially uses her to give the Russians bad information on purpose. Don’t know if your aware but it’s long been rumored Buran had issues on re-entry cause the CIA deliberately tweaked the design documents enough to create a fail point with the heart shield. Then deliberately left them out where a suspected Russian KGB operative could access them.
This also assumes that she becomes aware that she is the target / subject of a "Honey Trap" espionage operation. "Honey Traps" have been something that Russian intelligence agencies have considerable experience and success in execution.
@@jaytimmerman992 true but if your a government official who’s the least bit unsure chances are if you mention something like that to a presidential advisor, you’ll, definitely have a CIA official talking to you to see how they can turn this to their advantage. See the Soviets were good at “ honey traps”. But few could match the CIA for turning a “ bad situation “ into a huge advantage for them. That and good ole hard currency have ways of turning stuff your way
Hugely disappointing they went to the effort of setting up a what could have been a really interesting plot point then immediately step into the TARDIS
Execution actually.
alternate:1990s MARS HECK YEA!
Actual: 2030s WTH WHY SO LONG!
Maybe 2026 or 2029. According to Elon Musk
@@Alderite 2024
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 impossible
@@bebekalo5029 That's set date.
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 And where did you get this information?
the worst part about another time jump is that all of our favorite characters will be old
Or already non-existent.
It also means new characters coming through.
@@Sovereign01 I dun like the two new guys who was with ed at the end
Most of them will be in their 50’s, so relax- Except for Karen and Ed. Ed will be in his 70’s, and Karen In her 60’s, so Ed is really the only old one.
@@ondrejsimek2561 By a 5th season, 6th for other original main characters- Most of them will be in their 50’s in season 3- Ed will be in his 70’s, and probably Molly too, but other than that, none of them are ‘old’.
PERFECT SONG CHOICE! Whereas initially odd choice since '80s but end timestamp explains.
👍
The song in the finale is a hit from the decade the following season is set, was the same in season 1
Song name and group, please?
@@bruceheiman6286 Come As You Are- Nirvana
Sick ending. This show keeps getting better.
It was the first time I squeeled to the screen in a very long while. For all Mankind is awesome
I'm getting the feeling that the underlying message of FAM is "We might wish for peace and even work for peace but, in the end, there is only room for one at the top."
I got more of a peaceful competition drives innovation from it
It's always "Wish for Peace, Hope for Neutrality, Plan for War."
Exactly like the title suggested "The Grey".
Russian took over US lithium site, US tried to put nuclear weapons on the moon and first to kill people there. USSR is using Sergei and Margo to infiltrate NASA; despite both sides trying to appear peaceful.
Not really sure where you're getting that from, given that time and time again the goal of a united humanity is lauded. Season 3 takes this even further, with the united American/Soviet/Helios/DPRK team left on Mars.
It's actually kind of the opposite. More like: It's in our nature to fight and make war, but we can always do better and make peace. The whole heart of the show was in that scene where Dani quotes Star Trek: "We can admit that we're killers, but we're not going to kill today."
That's why I love this show so much, and why the S2 finale holds such a place in my heart. We get to see two people be heroes, not by destroying their enemies, but by using brains and guts and risking their careers and lives for peace. Dani having the guts to disobey Houston and go ahead with the handshake, and Ed using brains to find a solution that didn't involve shooting down Buran. We love to glorify our war heroes when they kill our enemies- but I love that FAM shows us that sometimes it's more heroic to make peace, not war.
It's fashionable now for "serious" shows to skew darker and more nihilistic. Optimism is not fashionable anymore. But this show, in classic RDM fashion, likes to always take us to the brink, warn us about what could happen if we listen to the devils on our shoulders, and then show us how to overcome that instinct and allow our better angels to prevail. To intentionally misquote X-Men: Peace is always an option.
There's not many shows that I watch with eager anticipation, but this became one of them; a show you can't stop talking about. This final scene reaffirmed that sentiment.
Wikipedia in this timeline might be very interesting.
Kurt Cobain will probably be alive in the series alternate timeline.
As long as Courteney Love isn't in the picture, Kurt will be fine.
Well, John Lennon is still alive, so..
@@hazri8758 what if John Lennon living Butterfly Effects into a number of other artists/ celebrities surviving for a myriad of reasons. John Lennon being bisexual himself goes on to promotes LGBT acceptance in the 1980s and 1990s. The near death experience made him to pursue more actively his humanitarian work. Add to the fact that Reagan would be getting out in 84, you could see the survival of many AIDS victims possibly Freddie Mercury.
Wow. Dude, Thanks for adding the Russian Translation subtitles! Adds a lot of missing context! Cheers! Onward to Season 3 LETS GOOOOOO
No problem!
Did I miss something here? I watched it twice and didn't see any Russian translations
@@SonnyDlicious In this Video if you turn on Subtitles they've set it so the Russian has English subtitles, they aren't there in the original
Crushed the 2nd season this past week and can confirm this is an absolute gem of a show.
With a finale which will shoots itself straight into the conversation of 'best tv finales ever'.
The Grey is bar raising stuff.
Boots on Mars
At this point they're making me wish the Soviets did succeed
yeah, the soviets had plans to build big ass space bases and colonies on the moon by 2015
All hail Gorbachev. Successful Gorbachev
You really think it'd be like in this sci fi series?
@@sanag8689 Bruh the USSR was already broke. Anymore and it was the end of all of Russia
@@marcysss93 to be honest Yes
"No, I don't have a gun"... 😳😳😳I don't know if it was on purpose; but it perfectly describes the situation of Danielle and Kuznetsov at the end of the ninth episode of the third season🤯🤯🤯. Congratulations to the producers and writers of this amazing series👏👏👏.
Fun fact: Actor playing Sergey role is in fact a pole, Piotr Adamczyk.
Świetna rola moim zdaniem.
Pole?
@@mehgenboye3665 Man from Poland
No i co z tego?
He is slav after all, seems logical choice
This is hand down the best show of te last decade. It would be the next Breaking Bad #1 show in the country if it wasn't on AppleTV
Totally agree. I ve never heard about this show and I saw something about it on Tiktok like 2 weeks ago. I searched about it on streaming and I just finished season 2. If it wasnt only on AppleTV it would be VERY popular.
I liked the first season, absolutely hated the second one - and I ain't watching the 3rd. In the first season they had some respect for hard science and realism, in the second season not only was it all destroyed but the actual storytelling was so bad, that at points show went against what it just established earlier in the very same episode. It was a shitfest.
So when you say "the best show of the last decade" I have no idea what you have watched other than it. The writing is down right terrible - no two ways about it. That, paired with terrible science and effects - I am surprised how and why it even got renewed for season 3.
I mean, season 1 was review bombed for being "woke fest" with "terrible writing", which it was not. Season 2 was in fact all that, and it got 100% on Rotten... yeah, I smell a rat and one thick envelope full of cash delivered to certain people.
If only they used that money to pay for the half decent writers...
Battlestar Galactica Season 3 finale vibes...
exactly
Oh no.
What if this show is a backdoor pilot for a BSG sequel. With the rapid advancement of technology in this timeline, I would assume there be a rise in Robotic technology.
Is Kara gonna come back in a pristene MkII Viper?
@@samusaran11 this is cool. Hope they drop a small easter egg from the bsg finale. Afterall, the colony arrived on earth and in that timelapse we see ron moore with a nat geo mentioning celestial chariots (raptors)...
I’m calling it: It’s Kelly.
Called it wrong! DPRK
It really is a bummer that after the moon landing space exploration took such a back seat in our reality.
But what about the exiting and cool missions to low earth orbit like...satellites and uuuhhhh...more satellites. Can we just go to mars already?
I agree, although I do feel that we're on the verge of a new era of space exploration now that private companies are starting to develop their own rockets :)
@@gizfpv even so... it just... doesn't feel the same. Its like, oh cool, we made it to Mars! Here's an advertisement we are leaving on Mars forever
I fucking love Nirvana so hearing it play in this show was awesome!!
I really hope it’s Ed stepping on Mars & Karen realizes how badly she screwed up and lives out her days being miserable.
I mean, with Danny? God, that's her late son's best friend..
@@hazri8758 Truly. It’s definitely some creative writing, but I really just dislike the character. Never really liked her, since I just saw her as being jealous about Mrs. Stevens, and as soon as I start to feel bad for her near the end of season 1, season 2 and begin to respect her; she takes a turn for the worse and fucks her late best friend’s son….. I mean, W. T. F.
@@valerie80yearsago90 same with me. I can understand if she's mad because she hates to be worried about Ed, but she doesn't need to take it that way. Now I feel really sorry for Ed. First, his wife slept with someone. Second, his best buddy died. Actually dropped some tears during the funeral scene 💔
It's getting worse when I remember that his wife slept with his buddy's son.. That's just messed up, Karen.
@@hazri8758 no kidding… I think Ed might just be my favorite character from any TV series. Poor guy dealt with his son dying while he was on the moon, does all these great things & thought all of it manages to stay loyal to his wife. Then out of nowhere this psycho woman decides to stab the poor guy in the back like that. Truly, a shame.
@@valerie80yearsago90 you both described all my feelings about Ed and Karen. Just finished the season 2 right now and I feel so bad for Ed. Best character for me, he s strong because everything is against him.
Thank you for the caption my friend
1990s baby. Lets Gooooooo!!
First i think - ha, what a simp!
But then i see he a good comrade.
I hope in Season 3 there's a little scene like Mars astronauts getting a fan letter from a certain South African young man
The way she says Sergei is like "sir gay"
Could that astronaut on Mars, be Kelly Baldwin? she is going into the US naval academy
I kinda want to see a young Elon Musk working for nasa and being a part of mars missions and maybe even suggesting an early falcon 9 or starship
Like a cameo that would be lit
Is he still a union-busting weirdo who has manufactured a 'hip' online persona for clout, because normal currency has become boring to him?
If NASA will have still endless amount of money in alternate 1995 (and it will), private space companies would be unnecessary
@@bebekalo5029 I agree, what i meant was if he was working for NASA and not Spacex as an engineer or scientist or something like that.
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Ah disagree, if the colonisation of the moon continues, then some kind of private sector will eventually emerge (if anything it should happen faster in this timeline, cause of all the tech developed)
This would especially be true if NASA/USSR focus is now Mars.
This must be a prequel to EXPANSE series !!!! 👍😆👍👏👏👏👏
I hope so!
Wow what an ending with Nirvana on the background shit I love this show
Oh, Margo. And the world was so black &white when you visited Uncle von Braun.
Watching the last episode of Season 2: Well, I wonder who going to get to Mars? I can't wait for next season to see what happens.
Watches Season 3, Episode 9: Well, shit.
If the Challenger Accident didn't happen in the alternate timeline, how would the "Teacher In Space Project" with Christa McAuliffe and Barbara Morgan have played out?
In the alternate timeline the ''teacher in space project'' probably didn't happen. The whole reason NASA did that project was to try capture the public's interest in space again (and as a result get more funding), but in the For All Mankind timeline, public interest didn't seem to waver and NASA wasn't under-funded as it is these days.
If there's a season 3, I hope they show Sally Ride doing prison time for pulling her gun on Ed.
The show was renewed for two seasons after S1, so yes, there will be a third season. As for the possibility of Dr. Ride doing prison time, look on the bright side: she might have Margo as a cellmate!
season 3 is being developed now and a fourth season has already been renewed
I'm sure that will happen right after Ed goes to prison for kidnapping and torturing a cosmonaut.
In this alternate timeline Kurt Cobain lives on!
Way to end a season. Can't wait to find out what song will tease season 4
Some popular song in the early 2010s
This song hits different in this series
Okey this clip is in the 90s so straight away they break out Kurt.
At least it’s not “I’m a barbie girl”
Actually turning into the Fallout timeline.
Man's not blind. Margot is a smokeshow.
I bet that Kurt Cobain doesn't kill himself in this alternate timeline.
Apple TV really need to make another season of "For All Mankind" which is same story but focus on USSR.
I've got the feeling that this show's 80s Will be like our late 90s.
I foresee a common effort between USA and Russia to get humans to Mars, and of course the first 5 episodes of the third season on both governments arguing on whether it's an american or a russian the first one to set foot on Mars
What a classic song
What’s the song?
@@ethanmcfarland8240
Nirvana - *_Come As You Are_*
Lyrics:
Come as you are, as you were
As I want you to be
As a friend, as a friend
As an old enemy
Take your time, hurry up
Choice is yours, don't be late
Take a rest as a friend
As an old
Memoria, memoria
Memoria, memoria
Come doused in mud, soaked in bleach
As I want you to be
As a trend, as a friend
As an old
Memoria, memoria
Memoria, memoria
And I swear that I don't have a gun
No, I don't have a gun
No, I don't have a gun
Memoria, memoria
Memoria
I hope that the third season will make the trip to Mars with the MARS DIRECT project that would be incredible 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Yeah, that would be cool to see a version of that being used.
I had shipped them :(
You WHAT?
Did'ja ship your pants?
Yes- and then he had a wedding ring... So they were either setting up something fishy or infidelity
No you won't have a gun on Mars! Best thing on TV 2021>
Love that they used Come As You Are and teach the young viewers that the 90s produced more than just the Backstreet Boys and the Spice Girls. 🤣
And there was room for everyone on the radio and the charts. Way more inclusive than the music scene nowadays.
good song choice for 90s Mars missions
Great idea to feature the Eternal Bay of Pigs Flame.
Camera panns up ..
Sees a Red patch.. Flag.
Zoomed in its.... 5 RED STAR .not Hammer n Sickle..🤭🤣🤦♂️
oh fuck, pope Adamczyk.
I wonder how they’re going to explain the Soviet survival into the 1990s. The USSR in real life had real economic problems in the 1980s due to its uncompetitive economy, large amounts of debt to the west and unproductive heavy industry. Does Gorbachev ever gain power in this timeline? Does he or somebody else manage to renew the USSR? It’d be cool if they come up with a way for the Soviets to put the Americans on the back foot, with a re-energised Soviet state refreshing its claim to the leadership of humanity’s future. It would be a change from the US technological superiority of the 1980s
Well, as far as we know: the USSR never sent troops to Afghanistan, minus one reason for the collapse, Andropov was much more successful in the universe of the series and possibly managed to get the USSR out of "stagnation".
But it is really very interesting question - what the situation is inside the USSR - which factions are now in control of the country.
@@Speedwagon.. I think andropov still run the ussr and warsaw pact is still intact, the only think that will be different is germany will still be united
Heh! So Adamczyk managed to make some money in Tim's slant pictures corpo.
This must be how Sikorski met Applebaum, only roles were opposite.
Awesome ending
Alas, none of this was ever meant to be. Instead, the resources needed to explore and permanently inhabit the Moon and Mars were re-directed to economic development in East Asia, South and Southeast Asia, and Africa. And so it goes.
Whats the name of the song when the camera zooms out to mars?
Nirvana come as you are
What's the song name again?
dudeee.... Nirvana Come as you are
good end for the season
No matter the time line, Kurt still dies. 😭
Still unwell because of how season 2 ended like that
Space for russians is closed and it's very good.
Your are telling me that if the soviets had got to the moon first then we would had humans on mars befroe Malcom in the middle even aired?! Hell even before Independence day got out?!
It's not an unreasonable assumption. The entire moon race was, after all, sparked by the Soviets beating the US to orbit: had John Glenn been first,the US would've likely declared victory and never cared about manned space ever again.
After all, the Moon has no military value and resource exploitation only makes economic sense to fuel other space endeavours, so there's no traditional pressures that could fuel crewed spaceflight.
Does anyone in the comments speak Russian and can translate exactly what is said?
I got that "Burana" was mentioned which probably refers to Margo giving the info regarding O-rings.
Russian: “Good, very good.”
Sergei: “She will not come”
Russian: “We will see, She already opened the door with Buran; by the time she realizes she is working for us, it will already be too late” @HeysemberthKingdom-Brunel
The close captions have the translation for the Russian speaking parts.
@@Jogeta5 Yes
Lol the real Buran did not have them as it took off on an Energia launch vehicle without boosters and a side tank and, unlike a real shuttle, could fly to the moon.
Chills!
I love how they play nirvana at the end to signify the 90s. I love Kurt -///-
I cant remember songs name ,can you please help?
@@tzeentch7900 its called come as you are ^^
what is the name of the song????
Nirvana - Come as You Are
what a great show!
me wonder when China come in.
Anyone else see lights on the dark side of the moon at 3:42
that's the moon base, the show talks about an alternate reality where the space race never ended.
Project Solar Warden.
for thouse who dont know this the real soviet union had plans on going to mars
Yes.
Sergei Korolev, the father of Soviet cosmonautics, dreamed of flying to Mars and developed flight plans.
Perhaps if he lived longer, he could fulfill his dream of flying to Mars.
that cell phone is a dinosaur
that cell phone was 10 years early in this show...
No shit, Einstein.
But... And the soviet union?
Don't fall?
Imagine SpaceX...
I wanna see more of Aleida.
Mars should be for URSS. I mean, it's the Red Planet.
2:03 he looks like elon musk but blond and old.
I find Margo oddly attractive
Nothing odd about it.
Season 3.
. The years 1989 to 1991 are decisive for the east and west.;
. in the east, the berlin wall collapses, however, germany remains separate; in the ussr, Gorbachev's reforms have a positive result, waning the nationalist wave, and strengthening the socialist state; China rises as a great power in the communist world facing the ussr and its space program;
.in the West, a deep social and financial crisis destroys jobs and generates discontent, in Western Europe, ultranationalist groups ascend, creating difficulties in any rapprochement with the East; in the us the abyss is more evident, and the answer to the demonstrations is the coercion and militarization of the police;
. in 1993 the US strengthens its ties with nato, bringing Israel into the alliance, as well as creating a new alliance in the far east against China and its allies, which stresses the ussr and its allies to move to contain nato expansion and gather new allies such as Egypt and Syria;
. in 1994 the ussr once again surpasses the USA with the landing on mars, as well as the completion of the almaz military space station and the dismantling of the support network for nationalist movements within the ussr, with the victory of Boris Yeltsin's arrest;
. due to the financial crisis, NASA is stagnant from projects since 1989, until the Soviet landing on Mars, at the request of President Clinton, NASA receives the mission to overcome the Soviet success, as well as, provide the USA with a capable of surpassing the soul. .
. on the moon, jamestown and zvezda share mining areas and support each other, due to budget cuts, flights to jamestown are reduced, becoming dependent on Soviet supply pods; new bases appear on the moon, built by ESA and China, and negotiations begin to create a common body that unites the lunar bases in a single lunar city.
Hopefully Karen doesn't make it to 1995.
Oh I think she will.
Why would you say that? She's awesome....and hot!
@@gizfpv she cheated on Ed with her dead sons friend, that’s enough reason for me at least
Even in this alternate timeline I doubt NASA would have the technology to pull this off
Even in the 60s NASA was making plans to land on mars. The loss of the insane budgets of the moon landing era however nipped their attempts in the bud which is why they never finished it.
The primary tech needed to get to Mars is propulsion, which they canonically continued developing and managed to make work well enough to enable TSTO lunar launches. That last bit is perhaps a little unrealistic, but NTRs for interplanetary travel are a sound idea, no reason to think they couldn't be made to work with 10+ years of continuous development.
Everything else was available by the late 1970s. They'd have to solve the radiation problem but that's engineering, no fundamental science breakthroughs required.
The biggest issue is that going to Mars is not like going to the Moon. You can't just land on the surface, plant a flag and go home. Even if we assume that this journey can be shortened to about 3 months instead of 6, still by the time you get to Mars, Earth is almost on the opposite side of it's orbit and the launch window is closed. So you would have to wait for over a year for the planets to aline again. That means supplies like food, water and oxygen for months to reach Mars + over a year on Mars + months to go back to Earth. Not to mention you would need a base on the surface. So it would be a primarily logistical challenge.
@@silvercapricorn4810 Yeah, exactly my point: once you have working NTRs, the challenge lies in engineering and logistics (IOW, time and funding). Propulsion is a fundamental barrier, since time spent in transit is the most dangerous and psychologically problematic phase of the mission.
Everything else is logistics and development, and they'd have been practicing logistics of offworld living for...two and a half decades, by the time of that post-credits scene.
ALTHOUGH,on a final note, with operational Sea Dragon, you could probably do a Mars Reference 5.0 mission with chemical rockets, too. It would be more awkward and dangerous, but those 500 tons to LEO give you options.
So I guess the Soviet Union didn't dissolve?
How soon is WW3 and then the coming of the Vulcan scout ship?
2063 dude, got a few more decades to wait yet :p
De que país es?
Co tam papież robi xd
Kremówki wpierdala
@@mvvv8787 Jeszcze jak, Adamczyk jako Siergiej to uber rigcz
Ciekawe o której w tym uniwersum jest papieżowa bo zabili go na początku sezonu
She sounds like Texan Siri
IAM CONFUSION...what does this mean. I honest don't get it even though I watched all episodes.
Which part? The Russians or the mars part
Why do they speak with a so weird accent, why can't showrunners find actual Russian actors?
They're the best actors Canada has to offer.
sorry with COVID the Chinese beat them to it...
Who do you think landed On Mars First?
NASA
China
ESA (European Space Agency)
Russians
Or Someone?!?!
I’d like to see it!
Russians
Russians
USSR
I tough the title was Russian planning to end the mankind 😐
Those are Chinese boots on Mars not Russian or American
There’s not a single chance lmao. They haven’t been to the moon yet how would they have made it to Mars in 10 years??
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Well, if they know how to get to mars they could do it
Season 3
Poles playing soviets. Lol
Fun fact: for most dummies in 'Merica Polish is taken for Russian. It's like Poles said American English is the same as Scottish English.
Smh my heas
@@jimixjimix5097 Yes and I know a girl who is always doing so called ‘Russian’ accents for fun- They sound polish or something similar though.
My question is where was all this money coming from for the Reds to fly to Mars?
Truly fantasy...
USSR created a hybrid economy allowing free trade while retaining socialist ideology. Again, truly Fantasy, but they do try to explain it.
@@pokemonfanmario7694 so... essentially like chinese in OTL?
HAHAHAHAAHA soviets.... technology... HAHAHAHAHA oxymoron ....