If they put in the 6 speed manual and engine from the Honda Civic Type R I will find a way to get the money to get this car. The hybrid CVT is a big pass for me.
Using the ctr engine would make it too expensive. People rarely buy coupes nowadays and one with fwd will be looked down upon by most car enthusiasts even.
I doubt the automatic would be a CVT anyways since none of Honda's modern hybrids use a CVT. It does have what Honda calls an eCVT, but it's neither a CVT nor technically a transmission. The electric drive motor powers the wheels most of the time. The e-CVT "transmission" is basically just a set of clutch packs that determine where the engine's power goes when it's running. To oversimplify, it can power either the motor generator (to power the electrical system) or can directly drive the front wheels via a single set gear ratio. This is only possible at ~45+ mph, and the engine can only drive the wheels using this single gear ratio.
@@zkiller195It still drones like a regular CVT . I Watched several reviews and eventhough it mimics shifts when driving at normal speeds, it drones just like a regular CVT when you mash the pedal.
A manual with a hybrid would be HUGE. That means the feasibility of a manual can continue on for a couple more decades. Japanese companies will most likely keep the manuals alive for much longer.
I know Honda is known for front wheel drive cars, but it would be really cool if this was a direct competitor to the GR86 as a rear wheel, drive 6 speed, naturally aspirated for cylinder car. And also fairly cheap
Depends if it's awd or not. The honda E is the only other new rwd honda. The zdx is offered in rwd while the prologue is fwd then awd with the higher trim
Yeah, but then this is Honda who just loves FWD. They are rare making RWD even though they are actually really good at that as well. For RWD Honda coupe, that will be S2000 successor. Hopefully they will make one that isn't hybrid. Basically K20C2 Type-R engine and transmission, but RWD open top coupe. The last ICE-only S2000 successor if you will.
Yeah, considering its going to be Hybrid Manual and CRZ is the one pioneered that concept in Honda, that one is closer successor than the last Prelude. I wished that this Prelude have 4-wheel steering as well like the original one, unless this Hybrid is will use vectoring to serve as 4-wheel steering of some sort.
That hybrid CVT is actually not a typical variable ratio belt CVT, it is more like a single ratio gearbox/flywheel rotated by an electric motor combined with small capacity lithium battery and an obvious 2.0 Atkinson cycle engine (electricity generator) which may or may not be directly linked to the wheels. In effect, it basically drives like an EV, as it uses an electric motor most of the time, with the engine Idling in the background just to recharge the battery at low speeds and being coupled to the wheels at higher speeds or power demands in certain applications. Check out the latest hybrid Civic for how it's implemented!
The new Civic Hybrid still drones when stepping on it just like a regular CVT. I have seen several reviews and eventhough it mimics shifts when driving normal, it drones when you get on it.
@@jpizel1070 Yeah, unfortunately "stepping on it" increases electricity demands and causes the engine to rev higher to make your wish it's command, nature of the beast really. On the other hand, you don't have to put up with charging queues or range anxiety!
Now I wonder if there will be a new CR-Z soon as well. Since I can see this Prelude to be likely more expensive than GR86, though that will be a mistake and Honda needs to price it competitively against GR86 and BRZ, especially that this will be FWD and number of enthusiasts will find that "inferior". And just have CR-Z a really cheap option of Honda lightweight coupe but not crazy powerful.
@@kornkernel2232 All they'd need to do is make a 3 door/hatchback version of this and call it the new CR-Z. It'd likely sell decently. I doubt it'll happen though. Just like I doubt Honda is going to try to be competitive with the 86/BRZ platform.
They did it with the CRZ I hope they do it to the Prelude. I currently have 260k miles on my 6MT CRZ and it's been an awesome daily driver though lacking in power. A hybrid Prelude with some punch and a 6MT would be a dream come true.
RS is just the Si equivalent for Japan... they have never had the Si trim. There is no reason to expect that the Si / RS 6MT transmission (ICE car) will translate to the Prelude (Hybrid) and I would bet the odds of this happening are 0% ... they'll give it flappy paddles and tell you how great it is.
It still sounds like crap. Just go watch the reviews that are out there. The new Civic Hybrid still drones like regular CVT when you mash the pedal. It only mimics shifts when driving at normal speeds.
@@jpizel1070 yes, the e-CVT found in hybrid vehicles does make droning noise. But they do not have any reliability issues, in contrast to their belt/driven counterparts.
Hybrid with Manual is deft pretty rear. But the again how many people are gonna be interested in a hybrid prelude 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Honda needs to do better
the real prelude is boxier and different than the concept bc here, i see a gr86 chassis, the front and the back looks the same as the latest Toyota CHR. I hope Honda continues respecting the old prelude style before the crowds goes mad.
Since most enthusiasts don't actually put their money where mouth is and buy it, it'sunderstandable if they don't want to invest money in developing the manual. If the car is good enough just by its driving dynamics alone, then it would be ok if they offered it with a torque converter auto or dct, but cvt just doesn't cut it, they sound horrible since there's no revs dropping between shifts, it would sound like a chainsaw when you drive hard.
Fun fact with congested motorways the way as they are I welcome a CVT, I drive 99% to work, shopping and it is always in middle to heavy traffic, I cherish my automatic transmission. To me a CVT is actually a sales bonus to actually buy the car instead of a manual!
There is one thing they can do, and that is use an electric motor as rwd. Separate drive trains would be really good, and owners can choose when to use which one, or have the system tell you when to switch.
There's a leaked photo of the interior from the Goodwood festival online.e Its tan and black interior. Looks like a mix of the HRV and civic but the buttons are placed different
My 2022 Suzuki Swift Sport is a manual hybrid, so they do exist. The Swift is just a mild hybrid, though, so the electric motor doesn't do as much as it does in, say, a Prius.
It might be the first vehicle that out sells its automatic model, and this might make its future type r continue going manual with hybrid. Hope it is true
I don't mind a hybrid drivetrain. Like some manufacturers are doing first gear and then the rest is CVT. But I feel like for this car they should do first 3 gear is automatic. Years four five six seven eight nine 10 Infinity can be CVT for all I care. I just want zero to 100 to be automatic. That way the thing doesn't detonate
Hot take: I'm excited to see what Honda does with the CVT. Not as excited as I am with the manual, but I feel if they let the CVT do what it's supposed to do (which is hold the optimal RPM rather than swap between some fixed ratios to mimic an auto) and make it extra durable, they will have my undivided attention.
The cvt is fine cause I have no Idea how to drive manual. Like I want to learn but dont have anyone to teach me. Like all I know is that you have to push the clutch in to shift and shift a like a certain rmp i think lol.
Man Honda really need a new leadership at the design department. If i was Honda CEO i would fire all of them. This is a Civic coupe 2016 with a different front end.
Honestly I had completely lost interest when I heard hybrid at the unveil. But if it's a more mild system, and respond well to light modifications, then the manual puts it back on the menu for me. It'd make an interesting little daily.
Manual and dct is what’s needed for this to be a successful but have a gas only version or a turbo gas version priced competitively and they would sell like hotcakes
Wasn't the CRZ a failure? They tried already years ago. Also, this looks so much Toyota-esque to my eyes... almost like a modernization of the Celica. Not necessarily a bad thing in terms of design, but how about brand identity?
Its rear end looks so much like an A7 with the lightbar and the spoiler. Everytime I see it, I think it is an A7 for a moment then I realize it is a honda.
No hair for better aerodynamics.
hell yeah
The line flow is strong here
Hair-odynamics 😉
weight reduction too!
He legit looks like Max Payne
Comments talking about the car: 10%
Comments talking about bald Bembli: *90%*
Ikr 🤣🤣
Bembli facelift 😂
mans approaching third gen
Broo 😭😭
Ain't no way we got bald Bembli before GTA 6😭
At this point, I think we'll get everything else before GTA 6...
bald bembli
The balds will dominate the world LOL Even Bembli is now one.
Not even tryna get controversial but I thought for a second it was Andrew Tate lmao
Oh yeah what colour is YOUR honda prelude? 😎
Humble Andrew Tate
how’s that controversial?
@@riyoszu u never know what softies are gonna see the comment and freak out lmao
The Top G is the best, nothing controversial about it.
Bolbli
the translation is interestiong
@@Alexgudmusic lol, wonder what language that's in
Looks like if porche and a Prius had a baby
Nah more like a nissan z and prius. Which are both good looking cars now
The rear light bar and badging is very Porsche-inspired.
@@Inferno45 the z has retro lights on the rear like the 300zx, this car has a continuous light bar like the porche 911 lol
more like if CRZ having a bedtime with a FL5 Civic Type R
@@eyespy8088the rear is the exact same as the Prius, it has nothing to do with Porsche smh… this is just a Prius coupe
If they put in the 6 speed manual and engine from the Honda Civic Type R I will find a way to get the money to get this car. The hybrid CVT is a big pass for me.
Using the ctr engine would make it too expensive. People rarely buy coupes nowadays and one with fwd will be looked down upon by most car enthusiasts even.
@@popinjayjunior7698best case scenario si engine and transmission
@ka124as no it would be the 2.0t from the accord.
I doubt the automatic would be a CVT anyways since none of Honda's modern hybrids use a CVT. It does have what Honda calls an eCVT, but it's neither a CVT nor technically a transmission.
The electric drive motor powers the wheels most of the time. The e-CVT "transmission" is basically just a set of clutch packs that determine where the engine's power goes when it's running. To oversimplify, it can power either the motor generator (to power the electrical system) or can directly drive the front wheels via a single set gear ratio. This is only possible at ~45+ mph, and the engine can only drive the wheels using this single gear ratio.
@@zkiller195It still drones like a regular CVT . I Watched several reviews and eventhough it mimics shifts when driving at normal speeds, it drones just like a regular CVT when you mash the pedal.
Prelude? You mean Priuslude?
Look at a 4th gen
A manual with a hybrid would be HUGE. That means the feasibility of a manual can continue on for a couple more decades. Japanese companies will most likely keep the manuals alive for much longer.
I know Honda is known for front wheel drive cars, but it would be really cool if this was a direct competitor to the GR86 as a rear wheel, drive 6 speed, naturally aspirated for cylinder car.
And also fairly cheap
Depends if it's awd or not. The honda E is the only other new rwd honda. The zdx is offered in rwd while the prologue is fwd then awd with the higher trim
Most likely they might make a Acura version of this and it'll be a new CL with rwd.
Yeah, but then this is Honda who just loves FWD. They are rare making RWD even though they are actually really good at that as well. For RWD Honda coupe, that will be S2000 successor. Hopefully they will make one that isn't hybrid. Basically K20C2 Type-R engine and transmission, but RWD open top coupe. The last ICE-only S2000 successor if you will.
Yeah but we all know it’s gonna be a fwd cvt
Feel like it’s a successor of CRZ 😂
Crz was a good little car
It is, and I’m all for it!
Yeah, considering its going to be Hybrid Manual and CRZ is the one pioneered that concept in Honda, that one is closer successor than the last Prelude. I wished that this Prelude have 4-wheel steering as well like the original one, unless this Hybrid is will use vectoring to serve as 4-wheel steering of some sort.
CRZ already had a successor and no one bought it
That hybrid CVT is actually not a typical variable ratio belt CVT, it is more like a single ratio gearbox/flywheel rotated by an electric motor combined with small capacity lithium battery and an obvious 2.0 Atkinson cycle engine (electricity generator) which may or may not be directly linked to the wheels. In effect, it basically drives like an EV, as it uses an electric motor most of the time, with the engine Idling in the background just to recharge the battery at low speeds and being coupled to the wheels at higher speeds or power demands in certain applications. Check out the latest hybrid Civic for how it's implemented!
The new Civic Hybrid still drones when stepping on it just like a regular CVT. I have seen several reviews and eventhough it mimics shifts when driving normal, it drones when you get on it.
@@jpizel1070 Yeah, unfortunately "stepping on it" increases electricity demands and causes the engine to rev higher to make your wish it's command, nature of the beast really. On the other hand, you don't have to put up with charging queues or range anxiety!
Thought it was a Toyota first
Looks better than every Toyota
@@Ezero8lol no.
Crazy how this Honda looks like Toyotas new designs.
I’m not complaining tho, Toyotas new look is pretty slick.
Looks like they stretched a CR-Z over a GR-86.
Now I wonder if there will be a new CR-Z soon as well. Since I can see this Prelude to be likely more expensive than GR86, though that will be a mistake and Honda needs to price it competitively against GR86 and BRZ, especially that this will be FWD and number of enthusiasts will find that "inferior". And just have CR-Z a really cheap option of Honda lightweight coupe but not crazy powerful.
@@kornkernel2232 All they'd need to do is make a 3 door/hatchback version of this and call it the new CR-Z. It'd likely sell decently. I doubt it'll happen though. Just like I doubt Honda is going to try to be competitive with the 86/BRZ platform.
They did it with the CRZ I hope they do it to the Prelude. I currently have 260k miles on my 6MT CRZ and it's been an awesome daily driver though lacking in power. A hybrid Prelude with some punch and a 6MT would be a dream come true.
RS is just the Si equivalent for Japan... they have never had the Si trim. There is no reason to expect that the Si / RS 6MT transmission (ICE car) will translate to the Prelude (Hybrid) and I would bet the odds of this happening are 0% ... they'll give it flappy paddles and tell you how great it is.
I love that the rear end lighting and badge both look like a straight copy of a 911. Imaging your Honda getting mistaken for a Porsche
Hair?!? 😔
DLC is expensive
Hair is overrated
Hello. lookin fresh
Man he went bald to show support for the new Krabby Patty's I am digging this is King Neptune cut man.
4:07 This is extremely funny to me. It looks like a 370z or Audi TT from the side.
The Honda so-called "CVTs" (on hybrid cars) are nothing like CVTs as commonly understood. It is not a transmission as commonly understood.
It still sounds like crap. Just go watch the reviews that are out there. The new Civic Hybrid still drones like regular CVT when you mash the pedal. It only mimics shifts when driving at normal speeds.
@@jpizel1070 yes, the e-CVT found in hybrid vehicles does make droning noise. But they do not have any reliability issues, in contrast to their belt/driven counterparts.
People that know what they’re talking about above me
They better put a 6spd manual in it or at least a dual clutch auto
Side view gives Lightning McQueen vibes😁😁😁
Couldn't be more thankful for this channel
I swear this car better not be over $35K fully loaded come on man
Last Gen would've been 40k in today's money 6 years ago. Accord to donut.
Even at 35k it would be a hard sell. Its fine if theyre not expecting to mass produce it but itll be unfortunate otherwise.
It will be. 35k to 40k range after everything. A new Subaru BRZ limited is 35k.
Better believe it will be for the Acura version
Lookin good, my guy
Yes definitely be an option for me if manual hybrid
Hybrid with Manual is deft pretty rear. But the again how many people are gonna be interested in a hybrid prelude 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Honda needs to do better
Every day, the automotive world gets worse. And it will never get better ever again.
the real prelude is boxier and different than the concept bc here, i see a gr86 chassis, the front and the back looks the same as the latest Toyota CHR. I hope Honda continues respecting the old prelude style before the crowds goes mad.
Idk, the majority of cars are boxy in that era. That point doesn't add up to me.
@@tom_gg2069 affordable: tlx type s, obtainable: m5, prestigious: cc8s, tourbillon, or porsche mission x.
@@tom_gg2069 Affordable: Tlx Type S, Obtainable: G90 M5, Prestigious: CC8S or Tourbillon.
@@tom_gg2069 Tlx Type S is an affordable dream car.
The 4th gen (early 90's) prelude wasn't boxy at all. It has some similairities to that gen.
Also I think was the prettiest one by far
The Honda Cr-Z had that electric sandwich in between a manual trans.... pretty cool design and even had hill assist.
The manual gearbox in the Civic is great, not putting that in this would be foolish..
That’s a big ass Frontend !😂
Welcome to the club 🎉
It actually looks pretty good. I really like the side next to the rear wheels.
I drove the Honda Civic hybrid this weekend. There was nothing wrong with its Ecvt. Drove amazingly.
hey Honda, please make this RWD as a Hybrid with a Manual and Raar wheel steer. I'd buy. We dont need a more expensive "coupe" version of the civic!
That looks amazing tbh, I'd love to own this... assuming it comes with a manual option.
We need s2000 back
Since most enthusiasts don't actually put their money where mouth is and buy it, it'sunderstandable if they don't want to invest money in developing the manual. If the car is good enough just by its driving dynamics alone, then it would be ok if they offered it with a torque converter auto or dct, but cvt just doesn't cut it, they sound horrible since there's no revs dropping between shifts, it would sound like a chainsaw when you drive hard.
I was looking at your head in the first round... had to watch the video one more time for the car
In early 90s when I was station in Okinawa I had a manual with 5 speed and all wheel steer, I sure hope this still the case!
Nice, was born in Okinawa and father was a Sgt marine
agree on the manual.
FINALLY! You talk about it (by it, I mean the new Prelude),
call me weird but it looks like the next iteration of what the RSX would be if it were brought back.
The very tall roof makes it look goofy. The manual hybrid combo was on the old Honda CRZ.
Looks like the Prius, I assumed this was some kind of new MR2 when I saw it 💀
Fun fact with congested motorways the way as they are I welcome a CVT, I drive 99% to work, shopping and it is always in middle to heavy traffic, I cherish my automatic transmission. To me a CVT is actually a sales bonus to actually buy the car instead of a manual!
If we could get a type R.....oh how amazing that would be. Hopefully the lessons learned in making the NSX were employed here.
I hope we get a full unveiling soon
This actually looks pretty cool and spiffy.
There is one thing they can do, and that is use an electric motor as rwd. Separate drive trains would be really good, and owners can choose when to use which one, or have the system tell you when to switch.
Looks like a Prius coupe
Then go buy a Prius fuck boy
Then go buy a Prius
The nose I want to suggest is similar or draws inspiration from the 1992 “shark nose” Prelude
With that spoiler, how does the hood open? 9:30
New look is sharp!
I hope the final product car has a redesigned front end near the headlights.
manual or paddle or sequential gears
There's a leaked photo of the interior from the Goodwood festival online.e Its tan and black interior. Looks like a mix of the HRV and civic but the buttons are placed different
ngl, it looks like what a Celica would look like if it was released today
Bro dropped the top like a coupe
My 2022 Suzuki Swift Sport is a manual hybrid, so they do exist. The Swift is just a mild hybrid, though, so the electric motor doesn't do as much as it does in, say, a Prius.
It might be the first vehicle that out sells its automatic model, and this might make its future type r continue going manual with hybrid. Hope it is true
Love how every comment is about bro being bald😭😭😭😂😂😂
Can’t wait to get it and throw some 2018 accord stocks on it 😁
Yessir bembli with the bald head
The front nose looks like their original 93 Prelude
The Volvo 240 just turned 50 years old! Are you gonna make a video about it?
Wish this would come with a small displacement, high revving j series v6 with a six speed.
Make rear wheel drive with two motor in the front.
I think this means the Integra coupe will definitely be coming as well
Nose transitioning into headlights seems to be a trend rn, mclaren does that, lamborghini with revuelto
I don't mind a hybrid drivetrain. Like some manufacturers are doing first gear and then the rest is CVT. But I feel like for this car they should do first 3 gear is automatic. Years four five six seven eight nine 10 Infinity can be CVT for all I care. I just want zero to 100 to be automatic. That way the thing doesn't detonate
Thought this was the new Prius haha
Hot take: I'm excited to see what Honda does with the CVT. Not as excited as I am with the manual, but I feel if they let the CVT do what it's supposed to do (which is hold the optimal RPM rather than swap between some fixed ratios to mimic an auto) and make it extra durable, they will have my undivided attention.
Nah, CVT is straight from the Devil. It's depressing driving a car with a CVT. Manual or dual clutch if its a sports car.
"Bald! My Eyes!" ~random fish, The Spongbob Squarepants Movie
IMO, it should be based on the 3rd Prelude ('88-'91), which has a low-profile design and is streamlined.
The cvt is fine cause I have no Idea how to drive manual. Like I want to learn but dont have anyone to teach me. Like all I know is that you have to push the clutch in to shift and shift a like a certain rmp i think lol.
the rear lights scream Prius lol
Yeah cant wait to see that 60k+ sticker and million ton curb weight 👍
Man Honda really need a new leadership at the design department. If i was Honda CEO i would fire all of them.
This is a Civic coupe 2016 with a different front end.
I wish it looked as good as the new Prius. Unfortunately I predict being disappointed with this launch.
Over all quite okay. But the roof line. Goes up and directly down. Should be a bit horizontal before dropping.
Honestly I had completely lost interest when I heard hybrid at the unveil. But if it's a more mild system, and respond well to light modifications, then the manual puts it back on the menu for me. It'd make an interesting little daily.
The clean head is for low drag, the beard is for downforce.
The front looks sort of like Pininfarina Battista to from the front nose and the headlights design
Manual and dct is what’s needed for this to be a successful but have a gas only version or a turbo gas version priced competitively and they would sell like hotcakes
He’s channeling his inner Newey
Wasn't the CRZ a failure? They tried already years ago. Also, this looks so much Toyota-esque to my eyes... almost like a modernization of the Celica. Not necessarily a bad thing in terms of design, but how about brand identity?
I know the front end has a lot of toyota looks in it but if you look at a 4th gen prelude you’ll know exactly what they were going for
I sure hope it costs $45k+ since all car manufacturers think we are loaded.
I hope they put rear wheel steering back to the prelude.
hair left the chat
hope they make a type R of it
Its rear end looks so much like an A7 with the lightbar and the spoiler. Everytime I see it, I think it is an A7 for a moment then I realize it is a honda.
We got hatless bald B E M B L I before GTA 6
Wow. What a difference. Gotta get used to this new look. 😂
I don't think the concept car has a led strip in the front, it's just body color which is white