Poor Kraven. He use to be the patron Spider-Man villain of the channel until Red Ghost came along. Now, he'll be lucky to cameo in the War of Symbiotes and Goblins.
I've been looking at this comic on my shelf for the longest time thinking "there's no way they'd do it on the show". I love this episode. Slight derivation from the usual and worth doing.
I forget which Back-Issues, but it was a black suit/red suit conversation where Sal went through how Spider-Man's web swinging functionally worked by shooting it out of his wrist and then 'catching' it really made me ask too many questions about the mechanics of something that should just be cool to look at.
I really wish they would release a collection of just Dematteis Spider-man stories. Im not the biggest Spidey fan, but his Spider-Man issues are the last floppies I have in my collection. As for this story? It was alright. I really wish they just left Kraven dead and had his kids form a team to just hunt Spidey over resurrecting him. Woulda been neat if they blamed Spider-Man for Kraven's death, and have just a story where they uncover his mental issues and come to closure with that or perhaps do a horror comic where they can see a dead Kraven or its a hallucination that haunts their minds. I really liked Kraven's Last Hunt and wish they had done something similiar with Grim Hunt, rather then what we got with that story. Perhaps tackling mental illness in his children.
The last time they did this, they had guests over! Oh! Are they gonna have Tiffany for this one? 6:46 Ah. I see why she wasn't here, now. And of course Kraven is the one to teach someone to get something through their thick skull.
"Don't even think about it that much. Why are we even doing this? Let's get the hell out of here. Who wants some beers?" I want Ethan to show up to my funeral please. 🤣
I get an extra long lunch today at work. This is perfect. Been going back and re-watching older episodes between new releases - thank you for consistently providing great entertainment these past 7 years!
I just lost my father recently and the Roger plotline ie. The line "that's not crazy at all", man that just feels so comforting and cathartic. Thank you ComicPop. Thank you very very much.
I was expecting some cheap cash grab sequel to Kraven's last hunt but was pleasantly surprised by this. Sure it is still unnecessary but I like seeing Peter emotionally move on from a traumatic moment and it was sweet how worried MJ was for him. I might just go get a copy myself if I can find one.
I honestly really dug this story and episode guys! it explores amazing themes and the fact that it's mostly internal struggle really speaks to me. I hope they get storyline collected and actually make more like it.
This story involving "Suicide ghosts" felt a lot more relatable and sweet than Kraven's Last Hunt. A story where a man starts lapping spider venom, from a bowl, like a housecat.
16:41 "Well that was enough Spider-Manning" for anyone who is making a Sal sound board. 17:20 today I learned, after trying to figure out what you were referencing, that this is actually apparently a saying in some Jewish circles.
I'm gonna guess they were referencing Fiddler on the Roof specifically: "Rabbi, is there a blessing for a sewing machine?" "There is a blessing for everything"
I'm shocked that more people talk about Kraven's ressurection than this solid short story. While not amazing it's a good read and a great human moment for Spider-Man/Peter, not to mention the art is great.
Man this episode, 5 mins in and it's great! Then I read the pinned comment and I realize how much cooler you guys are! Thanks comic pop for the laughs and the feels
@ 47:30 is a great moment that perfectly captures Back Issues, and how it helped me get more steadily into comics. A question that could have been brushed off with little note, but instead is answered with in-universe knowledge from other comics, video games, and the Pop! Culture. Perfectly done. And as always, a great episode. Thanks ComicPop!
being reading comics for 25 years not really into spider-man but this vid made me check out more about this arc and the original one. Mahalo for sharing!
MJ, you live in a world where the foremost Wizard on the planet has a public address in Greenwich Village and the Norse God of Thunder is provably real. Why is a ghost so hard to believe?
Headcanon: There was a Ghost Rider story in 2008 of a fallen angel who could grant souls who committed suicide a passage to Paradise in spite of the sin. He was ousted from the Heavenly hosts for his fervent objection of "suicide is a sin" but still had power to grant souls access to Heaven if he wishes so. Maybe "The Wraith" is a precursor to that character. Or he could be Kindred, ayedunnowatevar.
48:58 I feel like that's way too common when people talk about stuff, just deciding something doesn't make sense and is stupid rather than considering of any number of reasonable explanations that ultimately don't matter (hence their omission) and just accepting it because it moves the story along/looks cool.
Surprised by how decent this story really was. It's nice to see heroes actually deal with trauma in a way that wasn't insulting to the character or audience
So when Kraven eventually returned, was there ever a point in the middle of a Battle Spider-Man stopped for a minute and was like "Hey so do you remember being pulled out of a Giant Maelstrom of Souls, where a Wraith had me fight a Zombified Version of your Corpse that was attempting to drag me into that Grave you dug for me?" 😂
Wasn’t that Voodoo lady also appear in Spectacular Spider-Man or was that a whole other character? For context, I’m talking about the women Kraven was with in the episode he first appeared in, in the show.
I am Rewatching old back issues episodes and i just hope that when the Kraven movie comes out and fails at least we get Grim hunt out of it so we complete the unofficial trilogy.
I agree that he should have stayed dead, or at least do some BS for a alternative timeline version of him to be introduced. Well there's always fanfiction.
I remember buying this at a con for like 5$ no regrets lol. I do like spiderman hunted by nick spencer. Even tho it's repetitive at this point I guess to kill off kraven, it was still a cool story lol
If you watch Naruto when the spider guy is able to make hard stingers and knives out of his webbing by hardening the webbing he's able to make objects that will pierce the skin so yes Ben Riley's web stingers are indeed made out of webbing
Please remember that if you ever need it, help is available. Visit suicidepreventionlifeline.org or just call 800-273-8255.
I appreciate this comment alot. An issue of Deadpool provided the same resource and it makes me cry every single time I read that issue.
I'm not surprised this comment is here but I am so appreciative of how responsible it is.
Appreciate you guys
You guys are the best, love the shows and love how sincere you are when handling tough topics whilst also not making it a misery fest
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Poor Kraven. He use to be the patron Spider-Man villain of the channel until Red Ghost came along. Now, he'll be lucky to cameo in the War of Symbiotes and Goblins.
“There’s no battle for his soul, his soul is in Hell!”
-Ben, 2021
“One of those filthy mutants will save you.”
The random popups of mutant racism is always hilarious
I've been looking at this comic on my shelf for the longest time thinking "there's no way they'd do it on the show". I love this episode. Slight derivation from the usual and worth doing.
With Immortal Hulk ending, will you cover another arc from the series especially given the Halloween season like Hulk in Hell or Breaker of Worlds?
Appreciated the dig at King in this one
Spider-man: I want to die, sounds like an instant classic!
Sal doing the "HE'LL DIE!" bit with the crazed look, just in time for Halloween. :p
I forget which Back-Issues, but it was a black suit/red suit conversation where Sal went through how Spider-Man's web swinging functionally worked by shooting it out of his wrist and then 'catching' it really made me ask too many questions about the mechanics of something that should just be cool to look at.
I still do that😂😂 then I go "it's cool" and that tends to solve everything.
You know in ultimate Spider-Man he shoot’s wens out of his fingertips in the black suit, I dig it!
I really wish they would release a collection of just Dematteis Spider-man stories. Im not the biggest Spidey fan, but his Spider-Man issues are the last floppies I have in my collection. As for this story? It was alright. I really wish they just left Kraven dead and had his kids form a team to just hunt Spidey over resurrecting him. Woulda been neat if they blamed Spider-Man for Kraven's death, and have just a story where they uncover his mental issues and come to closure with that or perhaps do a horror comic where they can see a dead Kraven or its a hallucination that haunts their minds. I really liked Kraven's Last Hunt and wish they had done something similiar with Grim Hunt, rather then what we got with that story. Perhaps tackling mental illness in his children.
The last time they did this, they had guests over! Oh! Are they gonna have Tiffany for this one? 6:46 Ah. I see why she wasn't here, now.
And of course Kraven is the one to teach someone to get something through their thick skull.
"Don't even think about it that much. Why are we even doing this? Let's get the hell out of here. Who wants some beers?" I want Ethan to show up to my funeral please. 🤣
I get an extra long lunch today at work. This is perfect. Been going back and re-watching older episodes between new releases - thank you for consistently providing great entertainment these past 7 years!
I’m going to admit, this story is the one Spider-Man books that made me cry
Great video as usual. "Just last week, Daredevil had to save your ass!" LMFAO.
I just lost my father recently and the Roger plotline ie. The line "that's not crazy at all", man that just feels so comforting and cathartic. Thank you ComicPop. Thank you very very much.
Im sorry for your loss. Im glad this meant something to u. 🙂
You'll never forget but, I PROMISE things will get better.
@@omnibusman5792 thank you man, I appreciate your kindness and sincerity in a time like this
Sorry for your loss dude
@@ridge825 thank you for your condolences friend
For a completely unnecessary sequel that I’ve never heard of, this was surprisingly good. It is JMD, so i guess that makes sense.
I was expecting some cheap cash grab sequel to Kraven's last hunt but was pleasantly surprised by this. Sure it is still unnecessary but I like seeing Peter emotionally move on from a traumatic moment and it was sweet how worried MJ was for him. I might just go get a copy myself if I can find one.
I wouldn’t mind a revisit to kravens last hunt with just the three of you guys lol
I honestly really dug this story and episode guys! it explores amazing themes and the fact that it's mostly internal struggle really speaks to me. I hope they get storyline collected and actually make more like it.
This is one of my favorite underrated Spider-Man issues of all time. Comic pop has been awesome this year with all back issue selections. 🤘
I think this is a great Spider-man story. I read it when I was 10 and I never forgot it. I can't say that about many stories from that time period.
This is one of my favorite episodes of all time. I LOVED the message in this book!
I can’t be the only one who found this story surprisingly resonant. I want to track down a back issue. Thanks for doing it on the couch sal!
This story involving "Suicide ghosts" felt a lot more relatable and sweet than Kraven's Last Hunt. A story where a man starts lapping spider venom, from a bowl, like a housecat.
49:42 As someone who saw the Spider-Man musical, I could not agree more. No web-singing
16:41 "Well that was enough Spider-Manning" for anyone who is making a Sal sound board.
17:20 today I learned, after trying to figure out what you were referencing, that this is actually apparently a saying in some Jewish circles.
I'm gonna guess they were referencing Fiddler on the Roof specifically:
"Rabbi, is there a blessing for a sewing machine?"
"There is a blessing for everything"
“He’s going to die die die die!”
Spider-Man: “Why are you saying it all echoey?!”
49:18 (starting with Ethan saying “I guess…”) - 49:43 (ending with Sal saying “….singing.”) would be a great short !
Comic pop and Spider-Man, go together like Stan Lee and tall tails! 😂
I'm shocked that more people talk about Kraven's ressurection than this solid short story. While not amazing it's a good read and a great human moment for Spider-Man/Peter, not to mention the art is great.
Man this episode, 5 mins in and it's great! Then I read the pinned comment and I realize how much cooler you guys are! Thanks comic pop for the laughs and the feels
I got this comic 3 years ago at mall comic convention for 5 bucks. I was surprised I never heard of this story before.
@ 47:30 is a great moment that perfectly captures Back Issues, and how it helped me get more steadily into comics.
A question that could have been brushed off with little note, but instead is answered with in-universe knowledge from other comics, video games, and the Pop! Culture. Perfectly done.
And as always, a great episode.
Thanks ComicPop!
32:00 thank you this tangent Sal and Comic Pop crew. I really needed to hear that.
Loved this story! Loved this episode!
Real talk that panel Ben talked about is AWESOME looking
It's for episodes like these that I watch Back Issues. Sometimes, the slower episodes are just what I need to unwind.
This was really well done. Thank you for covering Soul of the Hunter. :)
being reading comics for 25 years not really into spider-man but this vid made me check out more about this arc and the original one. Mahalo for sharing!
Ben: He has blue eyes...
Me: Yeah, one blew left and one blew right
MJ, you live in a world where the foremost Wizard on the planet has a public address in Greenwich Village and the Norse God of Thunder is provably real.
Why is a ghost so hard to believe?
I thought this would be done where he comes back to life. Happily surprised.
I remember you talking about this I'm excited to see you covering it
oh shoot this is the "lets make ben sad" book referenced in The Revenge of the Sinister Six episode i think? lol
Ah the final piece of the trilogy! Cuz you can't forget "Torment"
Headcanon: There was a Ghost Rider story in 2008 of a fallen angel who could grant souls who committed suicide a passage to Paradise in spite of the sin. He was ousted from the Heavenly hosts for his fervent objection of "suicide is a sin" but still had power to grant souls access to Heaven if he wishes so. Maybe "The Wraith" is a precursor to that character.
Or he could be Kindred, ayedunnowatevar.
48:58
I feel like that's way too common when people talk about stuff, just deciding something doesn't make sense and is stupid rather than considering of any number of reasonable explanations that ultimately don't matter (hence their omission) and just accepting it because it moves the story along/looks cool.
Hey kids! Do you wanna see Spider-Man deal with PTSD? No? Well too bad!
Debating Spider-man’s web swing/momentum trajectories based off of a random arbitrary panel…
…we have reached PEAK GEEKDOM.
Well that was a better Heroes in Crisis.
I just rewtached Kraven's Last Hunt like last week so this is trippy
34:31 How to make it clear someone is a zombie: Keep all muscles intact, but give them jank teeth (and a couple of sores).
This was surprisingly good based off the cover and name
Surprised by how decent this story really was. It's nice to see heroes actually deal with trauma in a way that wasn't insulting to the character or audience
This is the kind of story that I think of when I think of Spider-Man, quintessential.
Wow, awesome story! A bit macabre, reminds me of the Mysterious illusions from the Far from Home movie
Nice episode.👍
Grim Hunt is this close, I can feel it.
Lmfao love the Neptune reference
I haven’t even started the video, and a quick trip to the comment sections tells me this is gonna be an interesting one
Wow a actual decent sequel haha
I thought this story was gonna be stupid, but it surprised me. Great video!
I always wanted to know about this and read this! I think This was a pretty good story!
"He uses metaphors to hide the horrors of death"... jesus, guys
Still love this spiderman art style
I read this as a kid with no knowledge of who Kraven was. It was a little confusing.
So when Kraven eventually returned, was there ever a point in the middle of a Battle Spider-Man stopped for a minute and was like "Hey so do you remember being pulled out of a Giant Maelstrom of Souls, where a Wraith had me fight a Zombified Version of your Corpse that was attempting to drag me into that Grave you dug for me?" 😂
You know, it's never come up. BUT! In 1994's Pursuit, the gravestone is still changed to "Free At Last."
You guys should cover Spirits of the Earth at some point
Dude I thought this was 5 hours🥲 honestly would've been happy but hell yeah for spider-man
Wasn’t that Voodoo lady also appear in Spectacular Spider-Man or was that a whole other character? For context, I’m talking about the women Kraven was with in the episode he first appeared in, in the show.
loved the video! whens the next ultimate spider-man video coming out? i believe the next is the clone sage :)
On next month's solicitations: *"Spider-Man: I Wanna Die"*
Hunted: The Spider-Man Threequel nobody asked for.
Sal: “It’s really awesome looking, it looks f*cking dope, but is devoid of meaning, it has no depth at all”
Me: …So it’s a 90’s comic then (LOL)
If possible I would love to see y’all cover batman officer down.
Algo-booster! So close to 100K!
I am Rewatching old back issues episodes and i just hope that when the Kraven movie comes out and fails at least we get Grim hunt out of it so we complete the unofficial trilogy.
I often wonder who has more guilt, Peter Parker or Matt Murdock? That is something Reed should track.
Of course, Marvel could do a huge event called Guilt Itself and have everything the two characters feel guilty about come back to attack.
It's Pete lol
I would buy that kraven lapping up spider venom funko pop
Suicide is the ultimate Halloween theme
Broadway producers tried web-singing.
People died.
Is this where the idea of grim hunt came from?
I should read this.
Can you guys cover the Hickman future foundation? That story was the best F4 story in my opinion.
so he wasnt lying about bringing in ben for this book
Expecting a cash grab, found out this story sounds like a great ride with a good message
Maybe the Wraith is Kindred!?
Did Larry David write the "Web Swing/Sling" skit?
What about Kravens First Hunt?
I agree that he should have stayed dead, or at least do some BS for a alternative timeline version of him to be introduced. Well there's always fanfiction.
I know right they could have brought Ultimate Kraven in or some other Alt. Universe Kraven.
This was such an odd comic when it came out. Although I grant that trauma can hit you unexpectedly and years later
I remember buying this at a con for like 5$ no regrets lol. I do like spiderman hunted by nick spencer. Even tho it's repetitive at this point I guess to kill off kraven, it was still a cool story lol
It would be cool if chameleon dress up as kraven every where Peter /spider man went
he would be make him mad lol
15:20
If you watch Naruto when the spider guy is able to make hard stingers and knives out of his webbing by hardening the webbing he's able to make objects that will pierce the skin so yes Ben Riley's web stingers are indeed made out of webbing
I love peter Parker and Mary Jane as a marry couple so much and this kraven story is really weird.
Did JM demattias ever write for Daredevil?
Briefly
He wrote from # 344-350 and that's all for his DD work for some reason
Only 83 views? Blasphemy. All you other subscribers better get over here and listen to the weekly sermon from Reverend Sal.
His Spider-stuff at this time in Spectacular is filled with Dark evil topics of Rape Sex Murder and more