I tried all the quick fixes and nothing helped. The only thing that helped me was stretching every day for a long time plus hot/cold showers. Took me about a year to feel "normal" again. For those struggling with this, my heart goes out to you. Don't give up stretching everyday!
@@vangogo6819 Keep at it!! I felt like it was never going away. Be patient with it but keep stretching. If one day you just simply can't move, it's ok rest up. Then try again when you're ready. You can do this! One step at a time as cliche as it sounds, but true.
There are no 'quick fixes'. I've had FS before in my right shoulder and now have it in my left. It took 18months - 2 years for my right FS to recover. Realistically I know what to expect. There are techniques to help relieve the pain, but no 'cure' or quick fixes at all.
Thanks man. It’s hard for me to pick up my 2 year old. Feel like my arm is gonna snap when I pick her up. I been lifting very little, 10lb dumbbells, stretching, ect. It really sucks. I pitched for so many years I guess that my shoulder is Worn down. Everytime it seems to loosen up a bit it comes back tight a couple days later
My shoulder was frozen after an injury, and the pain was incredible if I moved even the tiniest bit. A wonderful physiotherapist got me through it. It took months, but finally I regained full range of motion and was pain free. I wish everyone had access to a physiotherapist. Thanks for helping those who don't.
Same with me....even slight movements were horrendouslybpainful . I injured it exercising. I had a steroid shot and PT...after 5 to 6 months. Finally I'm back ton95%.
I partially tore my rotator cuff and didn't seek medical attention. I did the wrong thing and put my arm in a sling and babied it. A few weeks later my shoulder was freezing and I was in extraordinary pain and couldn't find a comfortable position to sleep. The orthopedic surgeon recommended surgery but wanted me to do physical therapy ahead of the surgery. After two weeks of therapy I felt much better and the doctor recommended I continue with therapy to see how much improvement I would have. I never ended up having the surgery and my shoulder is pretty good. I'd rate it 90-95%.
i suffered from frozen shoulder for 2 years and tried everything , the pain had gone after one year but i had lost nearly all my movement, it was stuck. i finaly had surgery which got my movement back but it does take a lot of physio and stretching after surgery to ensure total range and it is painful, but totally worth it. i am back at the gym now, swimming and enjoying physical activites again
I was just diagnosed with adhesive capsulitis in my right shoulder. I have spent the last thirty minutes on RUclips looking for the best way to relieve it. So far you guys have had the best and clearist information on the subject. Looks like a lot of self induced physical therapy is in my future.
I went to a private clinic and paid £250 for an ultra sound guided steroid injection. It was better within a week. After a couple of months I had to go back for a second injection but at least I could sleep and it released my arm.
Your series has been so timely for me as I've been going through impingement that's gotten less painful but followed by frozen shoulder. I've watched all your videos and am following your recommended exercises and I can see small improvement every day. Thanks so much!!
I appreciate this video so much. I have had frozen shoulder on my left shoulder about 3 or 4 years ago and now frozen shoulder on my right shoulder. My left shoulder recovered exactly the way you described. I am currently in the painful freezing stage on my right shoulder. What has been incredibly disheartening each time is the number of therapeutic professionals who are willing to treat you and say that they can cure you if you part with your money each week. This has happened to me both times. When the shoulder doesn't start moving, they say it is my fault, that frozen shoulder isn't a real thing. I have been in the movement industry as a fitness instructor, pilates instructor and yoga instructor for over 20 years. Like you it is disheartening to see professionals claim to have a cure and make the individual at fault for something that is incredibly common and well documented. For me, this video increased your credibility. Thank you.
ive had frozen shoulder for 2 years....finaly its coming right almost full movement and not much pain, i just put up with it waited and nows it nearly back to normal.....these guys are correct no miracle fix just time needed
I've had a frozen shoulder 2 years ago, I measured the whole thing by the amount of time I wasn't able to tie my bra, which was exactly 1 year. I had a cortisone shot once it began to thaw at the 9 month mark and it improved my mobility very quickly. I'm now 5.5 months into my second shoulder. Had 2 cortisone shots at the beginning of the inflamed period and am now about 60-70 % thawed. expect to be able to tie my bra in a couple more months. 53 years old, no diabetes, thyroid, or injuries. Thank you for your advice, tips and demonstrations, you guys have been a tremendous help.
Me too, both shoulders at about same age. Now I broke my elbow!!! Not as much pain, but it's m 60, not 16 and the range of motion to s slowly coming back.
I’ve got frozen shoulder for the second time. It was torture the first time when it lasted for two years. I’m considering getting the needle this time. Can you tell me if it hurts to get it?
yeah it really is. I had it in my right arm for 2 years before i had enough and did surgery. It wasn't bad the summer but winter was rough. Now i got it in my left arm and being much more aggressive. Getting surgery to have it fixed early because i don't want to go through that again.
I hope we can test getting a tube with blood and heating up the tube making the blood hotter I believe frozen shoulder is blood circulation I believe hotter blood will improve circulation I have seen people who had blood clots and the way they walk looks like they have frozen body They look like their entire body feels like frozen shoulder I believe heating the blood in the shoulder is the answer
I’ve been through it twice and can easily say it was the most painful thing I’ve EVER experienced, and I’ve been through some severe accidents and multiple surgeries. It is known to be one of the most painful conditions one can have. Yes-that is why (along with the disability of not being able to use the affected arm) is why people are desperate for a quick fix. It’s miserable!
I’m on my 6 month and feel like a permanent Charlie horse, the constant throbbing pain can’t even get out of bed without pain to the point of dizziness and nausea made me not want to eat let alone laying down without extreme pain I pray everyone get better soon 😢❤
Had in both shoulders 5 years apart and now feels like I’m getting it again in the right one. Can you get frozen shoulder more than once in the same shoulder?
I had frozen shoulder in my right shoulder and it was so painful. If I accidentally tried to pull or push something I would get horrible pain in my shoulder. I went to the physiotherapist and that helped. Eventually, after a couple years, the pain and stiffness went away on its own.
I had a frozen shoulder which was excruciating - my gp told me it could take up to two years to improve and i might need surgery - which given i use sticks to walk was a compete nightmare. After a lot of research i ended up doing the arms hanging while bent over and gentle swing style exercises three or four times a day and got really good results - quite a bit of relief in a few weeks and mostly recovered motion/freedom from pain in slightly less than three months
@@ckgonzales6743 no cortisone shot. You don’t need it. Do physical therapy every day and get deep massage on the shoulder mine healed in about 10 months.
Like a lot of people here I've had it in my left shoulder for 3 years, the pain has now gone mostly but some limited movement still and I have had it in my right shoulder for the last 18 months, still in the painful phase. One of the most painful things you can go through, especially at night - a good 8/10 on the pain threshold.
Your exercises for recovery are the best. You guys gave me back a great range of movement. I share your methods with everyone in need. YOU ARE THE BEST PHYSICAL THERAPISTS. FULL STOP. Thanks B&B, life changing and affirming. Xx
Totally agree. With a physical therapist 2-3 times a week and doing exercises at home.. it took the better part of a year to get most of my mobility back.
They have videos on their website, they said at the end. But the exercises are mix and match depending on your needs and abilities. They can’t just make a single one-size-fits-all routine for everyone because everyone’s needs are different. You can likely do more damage doing an exercise that’s not right for you.
After watching your frozen shoulder videos, I started to do the stretches you recommended. The 2nd day things started to move.. popping and I could feel the muscle groups that were causing the problem. I didn't miraculously heal, but I did immediately realize that there was hope!!! I knew that if I followed your advice, that I could fix this shoulder myself! After three weeks of doing the exercises and stretching for just a few minutes a day, my shoulder is 60% improved and I'm so very thankful for what you guys have done to help me. Thank you Bob and Brad. I was even at deer camp last week telling my friends about the Two Most Famous Physical Therapists On The Internet... as I was hanging from a log rafter doing my stretches. ...thanks you guys!!!
I've been battling a frozen shoulder for 16 months now. I have watched enough videos on the subject to know what works. An whats B.S. Y'alls information has been spot on.
The best advice I received regarding a frozen shoulder injury I received came from this channel. Bob and Brad passed along a surgeon's suggestion that I hang from a chin up bar. It worked!! Got full range of back!! Two years is about right. Still have some pain in various positions but I'm so thankful for the advice. 🙌🏾
Hanging from a pull up bar was very painful at first, did it with partial weight/assistance from bands (stepped on band). After about 3 weeks I went smaller and smaller with the band. Now I hang 3-5 times a week (3 times per hang, 45 seconds or so). No band now. Really helps to improve shoulder mobility. Still not super comfortable, but I’m hoping it will get easier with time (about 4 months into it).
@@KawRider1 There is a piece of sports equipment, where you hang yourself upside down (inversion device e.g. Maxxus gravity pro 2) - you hang yourself up and through by your feet, good for the spine and intervertebral discs)
my wife's 2-3 years of frozen shoulder was fixed by fixing her sitting ergonomics. she had gone thru tons of therapy/tcm/massage, but her pain recurs. until one day i noticed how she 'leans forward' sitting style(supporting her head with her hand and elbow) while having hours of meetings thru her laptops.
I'm in the "thawing" phase now. This whole ordeal hit me in July of last year. I was nearly floored when my Dr. told me how long it was going to take to self correct. I'm just over 8 months into this. It was diagnosed as a pinched nerve a couple months in. I was RX'd an anti-inflammatory for a couple months, (IB wasn't cutting it), and that probably helped speed things along, until I went in for my yearly check-up, where I was told it was frozen shoulder. Husband had shoulder surgery a few months back so I started following his post surgery PT exercises at home. I think it helped me tremendously. I have almost no pain and around 75% range of motion at this time. If you're experiencing this... it DOES get better and there are ways to ease that pain. Don't hesitate to seek help from your Dr.
Living through my second frozen shoulder now. The first was excruciating I was in pain for a year. I mean it hurt all of the time and worse at night. I tell people that it was like being in labor for 6 months straight.Took about 2 1/2 years to resolve. The second one I had learned a few tricks. I used the heating pad during the day and in the evening while using my neck stretcher. Taking extra magnesium to help the cramping during the freezing stage, taking Irwin Naturals whole body Turmeric , and taking extra MSM and Boswellia serrated. I received a cortisone shot earlier in the course of the freezing and had acupuncture in my stomach as it really helped the first time. One more thing that helps has been having helichrysum oil combined with frankincense rubbed on my shoulder followed by diclofenac, Voltaren, gel. And finally, going keto seemed to dial the pain way back this time. These things worked for me. I hope they can help anyone else dealing with this.
I had a sad outcome on a frozen shoulder - I tried everything to get the shoulder mobile and nothing worked so I recommended that the person go to one of the orthos I worked with whom I had lots of confidence in to get mobilized under anesthesia and he did. What was less known is this man was so osteoporitic when he tried to mobilize him he broke the shaft of the humerus - I felt so bad for the man and me for suggesting it
My surgeon said it would resolve itself in under two years which it did. I was in so much pain I couldn’t possibly have done any stretching. Thanks for the video.
Yes, stretching hard too early does not help speed things up, it sets you back. From what I’ve learnt serious stretching is only useful when you’re up to thawing. Gentle movements when you’re still in pain to keep things mobile is the way to go. It IS too painful to stretch isn’t it?
I had frozen shoulder about 5 years ago and was treated by an osteopath who specialized in this condition. It still took about a full two years to get most of my mobility back - that was with regular treatment and doing special exercises daily. I still have a bit of limitation, but for the most part, it's gone.
I met this muscular physical therapist in a Tokyo bar. I told him my shoulder was frozen - in japan we say “40 shoulder”- I guess cause older folks get it. Anyway he grabbed my shoulder, squeezed and manipulated it for several minutes. I was drunk so it helped but I was sweating and almost in tears. the next day I woke up with total mobility. I was also getting cortisone shots which would help and massaging my arm which helped a bit. But his manipulation made a huge breakthrough. 4 years later I got it in my other shoulder. less painful and stiff but I hate it.
People have a real problem with something that additional effort, cannot fix. It drives them crazy. My doctor told me I had to work the frozen shoulder, to "break up" the scar tissue. All BS. I've been in the thawing stage several months, and it's frustrating. But very slowly it is getting better. Many thanks for the truth bomb.
Dealing with a freezing shoulder. I am at week 5 post op rotator cuff surgery. Physical therapy hurts and shoulder is very sore. Like you said, this will take time. Thank you for speaking the facts.
I keep coming back to you 2 guys as and when i have an issue and without fail your advice has helped greatly. I wish Bob could get something that could help him through his illness and get a little back from all he has given people over the years. Thanks guys.
I’ve been in pain for 2 years, it has gotten slightly better, but not by much. I’ve went through physical therapy, this is excruciating. It happened after a rotator cuff injury.
I had it in both shoulders. Right side got better but the left side needed surgery. We discovered I had a bone spur that caused tons of scar tissue and all the stretches in the world would not have helped. I have full range of movement now YAY. Surgery was only half of it, though. PT is what made me 100% well. I had a fabulous therapist who was tough but it was so worth it.
After three years in the frozen phase, I needed surgery to correct both shoulders. They were severely frozen. The surgeon said it would never thaw on its own. Two years later I'm still rehabbing, still pain in the left. ROM is back at least, but there were a lot of adhesions on the surrounding tissue and it still needs rehab. Oh well. It'll be five years having this problem in June 2021. This has been extremely difficult to live with. My take on my problem? It's genetic (runs in my family) and a high-sugar diet probably didn't help my cause. If you're one of those people who never "thaws" and needs surgeries like me, my suggestion is to get the surgery and then rehab for over a year before trying to return to activities. I went back to golf too quickly, suffered an aggravation, and 16 months later, I'm still in pain. Good luck.
Got it in both shoulders at the same time. Right side went away by itself after about 6 months. Left side still frozen after a year and a half. Started stretching 3 weeks ago. Will see how much longer it takes
Had a bad frozen shoulder 10 years ago EXCRUCIATING and couldn’t drive and couldn’t sleep so had keyhole surgery. Was a lot better instantly BUT had to do stretches every day and it HURT. Had another round in same shoulder last year. Not as bad and was sceptical but tried saline injections into shoulder and had a surprisingly good result. I still had to do a lot of physio every day to keep it mobile. I still do exercises every day a year later as I have limited movement in some actions. Don’t try and be a hero and get through it doing nothing the surgery and the saline were good depending on how bad it is and you heal a lot quicker. Saline procedure doesn’t hurt at all.
Thank you for your post. What is the formal title of the doctor you saw for a saline procedure? Did you go to a type of specialist? I would be willing to try a procedure like this...
I had all stages, it lasted 20 months. My mobility came back around 95%, but no I'm started with the same symptoms on the same shoulder. Blessed I am that I have the tools and knowledge to take care of it, thamks to my Dr. Martinez and you guys.
I had a procedure done called hydro dilatation yesterday and was given exercises to do every hour (while awake) for 3 days and then 3 times a day thereafter. I felt an immediate difference in the pain. There isn't any to speak of. And my motion has already increased from about 50% to 80%. I will keep you all posted on progress. I really respect you two guys but I think you should research this procedure.
I got it from an accident. I was holding a doorknob behind my back as i slipped.. my arm got pulled to the back and pretty high. I felt a slight crack. It got inflamed and after i had serious trouble moving it as it was freezing. It's in frozen state currently for a week. Did many excersises for 2x 2 hours, two days, and i can do almost all motions but with only 75% power but hard to put my hand behind my back. It feels like it damages the front shoulder attachements. Hope this being lean for now will help get thru the thawing stage. Reliefed to hear that it actually *can* thaw. I feared for having to go see the butcher. Will your operation not prevent the self healing aspect of the condition later ?
I've just been diagnosed with a frozen shoulder, soo painful when in the frozen stage, just coming out of it after one and half years. I do regular stretching for it, even though I have to peel myself off the ceiling after 😂 I now have complete sympathy with my mum who has had this for years! Same shoulder with both of us, the left.
Years ago I rubbed castor oil on my frozen shoulder 3 times/day; in about 2 wks I noticed improvement. It pretty much went away after a few mos. I’d say that was an easy fix. I had tried a lot of different ways but nothing else worked.
This is the second time after years that I am experiencing it and I just want to know what triggers it. It is really very frustrating. Thank you for making this educational video.
10 months to freeze! Unbelievable pain for last 4 months straight and no sleep. It took 2+ years to get about 75% recovery. Now on my second shoulder. I'm not doing any PT this time, I think it caused it to take longer to freeze in my case. In the freezing stage I don't think there is anything that will help. After frozen and in unfreezing stage is when to try to help it along. Good luck to all.
Mine started in April of 2019 and I still have limited range of motion and pain. I was just doing light stretching while standing and felt a slight twinge. That started the long road of exactly what they explained in the video. I’ve had 3 injections, over 9-12 months, but decided to just deal with it since I didn’t want too many of them. My Dr just said he couldn’t “go in” with it so inflamed. I’m glad to hear I still might get back to normal on its own. Thank you for the information!
I"ve had adhesive capsulitis in both shoulders for nearly ten years now. Most of the time, it's just a little pain if I lift my arm the wrong way or reach behind my back or something. But one time about five years ago, it got so bad in my right arm that I could hardly move it at all, and I had to see a doctor. Now my left shoulder seems to be headed in that direction. It sucks.
My wife had frozen shoulder in both shoulders but it started at different times. She did exercises for one shoulder and it helped with range of motion after, but the exercises left her sore and not able to sleep so she quit. Both shoulders took about the same time to recover. Her dad had it too in his fifties. My wife was 50. The Japanese call it 五十肩(50 shoulder) because it is something a lot of them get in their 50s. What I read about it is if you treat with PT it lasts about 24 months and if you do nothing it lasts about 2 years. The only 60 second cure is a shot of whiskey.
I will say the strengthening exercises have kept me from hurting my arm every week when I do simple tasks that "jarr or jam" my arm that used to send me into tears
Agree 100% LOL. I'm convinced PT caused my shoulder to take longer to freeze! Just a theory but this second shoulder I'm just going to let it go at it's own speed.
I couldn't swim with my frozen shoulder. The pain keeps me up all night and has changed my whole life. I had it first on the left side. Then a year later the left one healed, but then the right one started. I think there is more arthritis in my right shoulder which makes it worse. This is pain you won't forget. I take medication for pain, but it only takes the edge off. I don't see how swimming can fix this. I did heavy lifting for 30+ years.
@@dellajean4876 Hi Della-Cate. All I can say is that it did help me extremely well. In the beginning the swimming was hard for me too and didn't do many laps. I think the movement in the weightless environment could be beneficial for a frozen shoulder. Greetings Pete
Yeah it depends on what is causing your frozen shoulder symptoms and how long you had it. Usually it's caused by tight muscles/ligaments, other times it's do to scar tissue, and in rare cases it's caused by extra bone growth/bad impingement.
Try this one for a big lie! Daily swim approx 500 mtr breast stroke. And see how your shoulder feels after a month. Had a frozen shoulder and couldn't lift my arm more than 30 degrees. After a week could lift my arm to shoulder height. Could raise my arm fully after a month. I had to cancel my appointments with physio, shoulder surgeon, etc. I am not a health professional and cannot give medical advice but this helped me.
so diagnosed with a frozen shoulder 3 months after a car accident. Seeing a shoulder specialist for the shoulder and neck/spine specialist for my neck pain..The Shoulder specialist told me to start PT , which will happen in 2 weeks. The neck guy prescribed a steroid injection for my neck pain after an MRI. So 2 days after the steroid injection in my neck the frozen shoulder is much less frozen. I am happy but will do PT and start some of the excersies I have seen specifically fir frozen shoulder. Love you guys and thanks for the help
Definitely true. There are a lot of side effects as well... I slept in a recliner for months. I used to be a stomach sleeper with my arms above my head and still can't do that. I did occupational therapy both times and it helps a lot (one shoulder about 2-3 years before the other froze). I would even say that 100% isn't even in 2 years and that some people only recover 80% and no more. It's been tough.
I just found out I have frozen shoulder but my neck is affected and all the way down my left arm and fatty part of my hand below the thumb area. Can a frozen shoulder do all that? When it first started, I thought I was having a heart attack because of the arm pain and lack of mobility. I called my doctor and she ordered X-rays and they showed my ball joint in my shoulder was not rotating. Very painful, but not as painful as kidney stones. Thank you for the free helpful videos and pass. I’m 70 and still working (inflation) ugh so I need to stay healthy.
I have had frozen shoulder twice. The first time I tried physio, a cortisone shot eventually had surgery which did improve my pain and range of motion almost immediately but I had to do about 9 more months of physio afterwards. It was a long, expensive process. The second time I got it, nine years later, I ignored it for 8 or 9 months and the pain was getting pretty frustrating so I tried shockwave therapy and it was terrific. I had significant improvement after the first treatment, no cortisone, no physio, no surgery. I had 8 or 9 treatments in total and was completely cured. If I ever get it again I will be running for shockwave therapy immediately.
my wife has this going on, and i feel so helpless. she is in pain, and there is nothing i can do to help her.... it totally sucks to watch how this crap issue is just grinding down her spirits, its frigging heart breaking, and i feel like a useless idiot because there is nothing i can do, other than trying to lift her spirits... it wakes her up all night, hurts when she moves her arm in certain directions... i wouldnt wish this on my worst enemy. Ive had it twice, with the worse one last 8 months. I can deal with pain, its the lack of sleep when you move in the night and the pain bolts you awake that really got me. But to see my wife suffering, that kills me, breaks my heart. I wish i wasnt so damn useless, If i could take her pain, id do it without hesitation. Anyway, from every thing im reading here, forget PT, do your exercises after a nice hot shower, and just keep at it, the last phase of this horrible affliction is it releases. Right?
I feel you and your wife’s pain. I’ve had it for a year and it got progressively worse. Last night I did something in my sleep and jumped out of bed in the worst pain I’ve ever experienced. Almost brought me to tears and I’m a 47 year old man. Keep up the gentle exercises. I’m going in for a steroid injection so we’ll see how that goes.
I was hopeful from your video on the exercises to recover in a couple of months but now I realize that is unrealistic. Thank you for telling us the truth about it. It will just take me longer to get better.
I had a frozen shoulder and it was so painful... they gave me a cortisone shot and that did help instantly. Then i started physical therapy for a good 6 months. Finally it went away... thank god. Now here I am 20 years later and I have a frozen shoulder again in the same arm. It hurts bad especially when i go to reach over my head. Painful when I go to bed too. I'm going to the doctor this week. I'll watch your exercise videos and try to get some relief. I keep putting ice and heat on it. Not fun=(
Bob and Brad are very helpful! I am having my SECOND frozen shoulder injury. I so appreciate you two for calling out the dumbass gimmicks that others have promoted. Frozen shoulder is a REAL, long, & painful condition. Heat packs help a tiny bit. Stretching every hour helps a tiny bit. Chiropractic care and acupuncture help somewhat. Honestly, I think The two things that have helped me the most are following a diet with no inflammatory foods and using an infrared light. Also TENS offers a little relief.
I'm having my second frozen shoulder as well. I am probably in frozen stage, but still with a lot of pain, mostly in the wee hours of the morning or when I move suddenly. My situation this time has arisen as complication from my mastectomy and the chemotherapy that came before the surgery, and in breast cancer patients in general. There is literature saying that, for those who have any of the predispositions for frozen shoulder, any sort of upper body surgery, or receiving of chemotherapy drugs and/or radiation treatment for cancer can open the door to frozen shoulder. I had surgery, chemo, am female, over 60, had frozen shoulder before (on other side), and have hooked or curved acromion process. Slam dunk I'd get it. My PT says they very often see frozen shoulder 6-12 months after mastectomy. Before my shoulder froze, I was even doing strength training with a professional trainer as part of my PT rehab after my mastectomy. I looked back at my records, and it took 15-16 months with constant therapy starting around the 4th month in to resolve my shoulder the first time. Hoping for that good this time. Good luck to everyone suffering through this.
I have had open surgery twice for frozen shoulder. Once in May 2022 and again October 2022. Unfortunately I'm type 1 diabetic which is why it returned so soon. I'm in physical therapy 7 days a week which is painful. My shoulder is not any better and I'm scared.
Once again if I have any physical problems I just go straight to Bob and Brad. Saves me having to troll through all the snake oil that's touted on some RUclips channels. Bob and Brad the best physical therapist on the Internet even if they say so themselves.
The surgeon told me I need to have Hydrodilation for my frozen shoulder then within a few hours have physical therapy then after a month of pt get surgery. What do you think? It's for a torn rotator cuff.
Im 67 and fell on my shoulder so hard it badly damaged my tendons and froze my shoulder. So much pain and limited my range of movent.Its been one year and 3 months with intensive physio. Still not the same strength wise as well.Hoping to get back to work soon.
When should you consider surgery? 10 years and I tried everything, possible some of the therapies you read during this video. I wasted a great deal of money. I appreciate your honesty, a rare commodity in this world.
Thank you this gave me hope. I’m in the thawing phase but this started in April (welcome to my Covid fun) I’ve done physical therapy but really I’m using bands at home now to stretch and I’m worried about weakness.
I didn’t know what to do when my frozen shoulder started. Unfortunately the first few weeks all the research I did on YT recommended lots of stretching and even hanging from a bar with the weight of your body. This for me we a BIG mistake. I learned later that you shouldn’t do any kind of aggressive stretching until the shoulder is in the third stage of unfreezing. Only perhaps very gentle ones and not into a lot of pain. Also I found out later that if there is no direct cause of your frozen shoulder (idiopathic) … 95% of those will returned to normal on their own with no treatment of any kind. It was a bit late for you but I stopped my exercises right away and am now concentrating on long hot showers, gently movement, some Advil every day and magnesium before I go to bed, I think I hurt myself pretty badly with all that I did at the beginning but I”m hoping it will resolve itself, I’m now about 8 weeks in to the freezing part and it’s definitely getting stiffer. I’m going to just take it very easy and wait till the third stage before any therapy. If I remember I’ll come back and do an update on any progress …. Good luck everybody …
Update: A year after the initial onset of FS I am now pretty well completely resolved. I learned a lot about FS and made a blog post about it. If you search on the internet it’s called My Frozen Shoulder Experience.
My left shoulder froze in 2018 age 56. Hurt like hell, pain woke me up when I moved. Couldn't take anymore and saw dr. PT for a couple months. After 8 months big increase in range and reduction in pain. Not sure PT helped but I was willing do whatever it took to make it go away. After about 18 months I was back to normal, pretty much. Then in 2021 my right shoulder froze. At least I know what I'm in for. Hasn't been as painful as before. I'm now six months in. No doctors or PT, handling it at home with stretches. Fingers crossed.
I'm now a year and a half into my frozen right shoulder. About a month ago it was getting worse so I started hanging from a branch on a tree. It hurt but it seemed to tear lose some adhesions and improved range of motion. So I try to hang every day. I don't notice it except with anything like a throwing motion or reaching behind my back. This has lasted much longer then my left frozen shoulder but is nowhere near as painful. Forgot to mention that for my left shoulder at PT they tried TENS and it was completely useless. TENS has nothing to do with the adhesions inside the shoulder; I don't know why the PT wasted my time with it.
If I'm right, a frozen shoulder is often caused by an form of inflammation. So, I guess when you could stop the inflammation the frozen shoulder goes away. Don't know of this kind of inflammation can also be stopped by changing your diet... Do you have any experience with clients getting healed after changing there diet? Or in what sence can your diet help you against a frozen shoulder?
Frozen shoulder is probably in most cases caused by Magnesium deficiency. Take as much Magnesium you can hold (loose stool), and you will feel better (less extreme pain) in few days insted of several months.
I am going through physical therapy right now for a bone spur with a torn supraspanative and frozen shoulder. It's very painful. 2 hours of stretching, exercise and manipulation doesn't help like that....I seriously doubt 60 seconds would do anything at all.
I've had a frozen shoulder for 10 months now, I have spent over £200 on therapies that had zero effect. I am so glad I watched this video, it has resolved me to stop looking for miracle cures and work on being patient instead. On a positive note, I have had to learn to use my left arm to do many more things so by the time I heal I will be more ambidextrous than before my shoulder froze.
I had frozen shoulder in my left shoulder 12 yrs ago and started freezing in my right last summer and froze up in November and still frozen today . I’ve done it all my stretches chiropractic and massage. Just yesterday a doctor told me 6 weeks with therapy it would be gone without 2 yrs . Really hurt my feelings because people educated people and doctors of all people really don’t understand what we experience! I tools him I did the therapy for months the first time around and my therapist let me go after saying YOU HAVE THE FIRST TRUE CASE OF FROZEN SHOULDER I HAVE EVER SEEN !
I developed a frozen shoulder in March this year. Very painful, lack of sleep, I was prescribed strong pain relief by my physiotherapist who works at my local Doctors Surgery(UK). Eventually, after persevering with physiotherapy and various (RUclips) exercises I booked an appointment with my General Practice Doctor, who injected a steroid and anaesthetic combination into my shoulder (from behind). The affect was almost instant and within 2 weeks the pain had gone and because I had no pain I started using the shoulder (and arm) and so the mobility of my shoulder and arm is improving every day. Apparently the injections don't work for everyone but if you are suffering, I would recommend that the steroid route be explored sooner, rather than later.
What was the space of time from diagnosis and injection. I have bursitis, diagnosed early July and mid August cortisone shot taken. In two days the pain of the injection is settling down, I got out of my fear and day two I have gained a bit of strength to grip things and from tomorrow I'm starting this therapy 3 times a day for 12 weeks. One day a week at the therapist and two days at home and increasing weight every other week starting with 400g and increased repetition. As the therapy increases the weights increase and repetition reduce. So let's see. I'm in constant pain when I'm idle so might as well do the damn exercises.
I'm on my second and I really wish both of mine had only taken 6 to 9 weeks to freeze! Try 18 months for the first and 15 months and counting for the second and that's JUST the freezing stage.
For months, I have been dealing with what I thought were rotator cuff issues in both shoulders due to extreme overexertion last summer. No amount of Acetaminophen, Ibuprofen, or N-Said seemed to provide any relief to the constant and often excruciating pain I was dealing with in my shoulders. It hurt like crazy just to put on a T-Shirt, for Pete's sake. But now, I suspect that I was/am dealing with frozen shoulder or some form of muscle adhesion. Why? Because a little over a week ago, I tripped and fell. I'm about 315 lbs, late fifties, and I went down hard. I landed on my left shoulder, and it hurt quite a bit. Two days after the fall, and since then, I am nearly pain-free in both of my shoulders. No need for any pain killers. It seems too good to be true. Thoughts?
I'm in the second stage and it's been about 5 months, it's been really hard to do my electrical job with limited motion on my right shoulder. I'm ready for a thaw, does deep massage help?
I experienced injuries in my shoulder following a severe accident that resulted in a fractured clavicle and facial injuries. Approximately three months after the incident, I began experiencing significant shoulder pain. Initially, my healthcare provider focused on my collarbone. However, I continued to report that the pain was unrelated to my collarbone. After six months of X-rays, they continued to tell me it was my collarbone. Dissatisfied with the lack of progress, I decided to switch my primary care provider and sought care at a different hospital. There, I received a prompt and accurate diagnosis of frozen shoulder in both shoulders. The treatment included cortisone injections and a home exercise regimen, which significantly improved my condition. After six weeks, I am pleased to report a 90% improvement in mobility and pain levels.
I was just diagnosed with frozen shoulder. I would love to see more information about this and with conjunction with going to physical therapy so I know what to expect and how to heal.
Stick with B&B, they know their stuff. Even a *lot* of MD's don't know much. My (former) doctor said his mom had it, and got over it in a couple of months...like I had no excuse for spending 6 months in the freezing to frozen state B&B talked about.😒 It was slightly over 2 years to my complete healing and restored range of motion. During that time I had 2 surgeries because the pain was unbearable. Those were each followed by hundreds, and possibly thousands of hours of stretches and resistance exercises. All cases can be different. I hope yours goes well.
Got 2 needles in the shoulder, adrenaline did the trick. Still gotta do the stretches and exercises but going into weights soon. Big relief, thought it was a rotary cuff tare. I was currently in the start of thawing stage but the needles helped.
My shoulder has a started to feel tight and sometimes clicks with movement. I have full range of motion most of the time , no pain but some stiffness and restriction on occasion. Is this the start of frozen shoulder ? I have a massage once a month that works out the tightness and helps range of motion. Suggestions?
We cannot answer individual medical questions online without a proper examination so we wouldn't be able to tell you if it's the beginning of frozen shoulder or not. However, stretching sounds like it might help so here are some videos you can try : www.youtube.com/@BobandBrad/search?query=shoulder%20stretching If any of them cause more pain or new pain, stop that exercise immediately.
I occasionally get what seems like frozen shoulder (extreme pain in the shoulder and limited movement) but it usually clears up in a week or less. This has been happening to me since my mid 20s and now I’m 40. Usually it happens after a long stint in front of a laptop. If it’s not frozen shoulder, any suggestion on what it could be…???
Shockwave therapy (4 treatments) thawed my frozen shoulder after 7 months of being freezing and frozen. It was administered by a chiropractor. 😃 Now I’m working through my muscle tightness from immobility.
Thanks for that! It's rather reassuring after having read some medical literature.. They all advocate, the cortison injection in intra-articular space. I am an allergic to these substances.. What do you think about it?😊
Just wanted to ad some input on this, I just had a non surgical manual manipulation of my shoulder. Before the procedure this morning, I couldn't lift my arm above my shoulder level. 12 hours later after the procedure I have a full lift to my ear. No surgery, but was under light anesthesia and the whole process took less then an hour. I'm just a little sore but no more pain. People seeing this video and losing hope for help on the like I did. Go talk to an orthopedic shoulder Dr and ask about manual manipulation of the shoulder.
Can you tell me how much pain you experienced with the MUI? Did you remember the procedure? I had arthroscopic surgery on my other shoulder and I’m hoping to avoid it with this one.
@@DMC888 maybe like a 2 on the pain scale but for like a day. I'm three week out from the procedure and still a little discomfort but more from the PT exercises and it's just soreness really. Nothing like the pain from the frozen shoulder itself. Seriously do it if you have a doctor that can preform it. Totally worth it! I got my beauty queen wave back next day LoL As for remembering it, not a thing, I was knocked out asleep for the whole thing.
@@litsci1877 true, but that's with anything in life. I'm now ten months out from having this done and got my life back again. No pain, like that whole episode of the last 2 years never happened. Full range of motion as before, just lost mussel strength from babying and not using that arm, that's coming back with work. Not saying it's the only choice, but the "surgery" is another choice over PT stretching. And the PT stretching after the procedure are fantastic!
I’m in the freezing stage and have been for 6 months. I’ve had physio and now awaiting a second lot of physio. Awaiting a cortisone jab too. So painful in rotation moves especially. I’m massaging myself deep into the painful areas, and do what exercises that I can bear, but most exercises are too painful to carry out. Help! 😢
I have had it multiple times. The first time I just thought it was a standard injury and needed to heal, but instead it just froze more, and I ended up having it fixed under anaesthesia. After that I got a good massager and when I feel it start to freeze I can fix it by massage a few times everyday for a week. But I have no training and that is just what works for me.
I had an osteopath do some serious massage, then I did some exercises, within 3 months it was nearly gone, but I can never lie on the side that is sore, cause the pain starts to come back, and now after 7 years, its back again, so here goes again.
ruh roh, just got a confirmation today from a therapist. my doc saw that it may be frozen shoulder for my right arm in January... started the first phase in December during my workman comp therapy of my right hand. apparently, my whole right arm was affected during the 2 months of inactivity in a hand cast after a surgery in Aug. So each person will recover at different times :( i am starting phase 2 of the condition now
Have had this adhesive capsulitis for 7 years now. Had cortisone shots and surgery after first year. I’m guessing I just helped the osteo buy a new car... and I didn’t even get to see it! 🤷🏻♀️
I tried all the quick fixes and nothing helped. The only thing that helped me was stretching every day for a long time plus hot/cold showers. Took me about a year to feel "normal" again. For those struggling with this, my heart goes out to you. Don't give up stretching everyday!
Thank you, I am struggling with this and get so discouraged, your words give me encouragement.
@@vangogo6819 Keep at it!! I felt like it was never going away. Be patient with it but keep stretching. If one day you just simply can't move, it's ok rest up. Then try again when you're ready. You can do this! One step at a time as cliche as it sounds, but true.
@@YogiRed Thank you, I will!😊🤗
There are no 'quick fixes'. I've had FS before in my right shoulder and now have it in my left. It took 18months - 2 years for my right FS to recover. Realistically I know what to expect. There are techniques to help relieve the pain, but no 'cure' or quick fixes at all.
Thanks man. It’s hard for me to pick up my 2 year old. Feel like my arm is gonna snap when I pick her up. I been lifting very little, 10lb dumbbells, stretching, ect. It really sucks. I pitched for so many years I guess that my shoulder is Worn down. Everytime it seems to loosen up a bit it comes back tight a couple days later
My shoulder was frozen after an injury, and the pain was incredible if I moved even the tiniest bit. A wonderful physiotherapist got me through it. It took months, but finally I regained full range of motion and was pain free. I wish everyone had access to a physiotherapist. Thanks for helping those who don't.
Same with me....even slight movements were horrendouslybpainful . I injured it exercising. I had a steroid shot and PT...after 5 to 6 months. Finally I'm back ton95%.
Thank you ❤
Who's Phototherapist
I partially tore my rotator cuff and didn't seek medical attention. I did the wrong thing and put my arm in a sling and babied it. A few weeks later my shoulder was freezing and I was in extraordinary pain and couldn't find a comfortable position to sleep. The orthopedic surgeon recommended surgery but wanted me to do physical therapy ahead of the surgery. After two weeks of therapy I felt much better and the doctor recommended I continue with therapy to see how much improvement I would have. I never ended up having the surgery and my shoulder is pretty good. I'd rate it 90-95%.
Do you have any pain even a one or two?
I've been telling this to my patients for years. Thank you for being honest
i suffered from frozen shoulder for 2 years and tried everything , the pain had gone after one year but i had lost nearly all my movement, it was stuck. i finaly had surgery which got my movement back but it does take a lot of physio and stretching after surgery to ensure total range and it is painful, but totally worth it. i am back at the gym now, swimming and enjoying physical activites again
I was just diagnosed with adhesive capsulitis in my right shoulder. I have spent the last thirty minutes on RUclips looking for the best way to relieve it. So far you guys have had the best and clearist information on the subject. Looks like a lot of self induced physical therapy is in my future.
I went to a private clinic and paid £250 for an ultra sound guided steroid injection. It was better within a week. After a couple of months I had to go back for a second injection but at least I could sleep and it released my arm.
Your series has been so timely for me as I've been going through impingement that's gotten less painful but followed by frozen shoulder. I've watched all your videos and am following your recommended exercises and I can see small improvement every day. Thanks so much!!
I appreciate this video so much. I have had frozen shoulder on my left shoulder about 3 or 4 years ago and now frozen shoulder on my right shoulder. My left shoulder recovered exactly the way you described. I am currently in the painful freezing stage on my right shoulder. What has been incredibly disheartening each time is the number of therapeutic professionals who are willing to treat you and say that they can cure you if you part with your money each week. This has happened to me both times. When the shoulder doesn't start moving, they say it is my fault, that frozen shoulder isn't a real thing. I have been in the movement industry as a fitness instructor, pilates instructor and yoga instructor for over 20 years. Like you it is disheartening to see professionals claim to have a cure and make the individual at fault for something that is incredibly common and well documented. For me, this video increased your credibility. Thank you.
Im 45 year old male my left shoulder froze first now the right shoulder im 2half yrs in pain any advice really appreciate any tips
I agree.
I am suffering now. How are you now?
ive had frozen shoulder for 2 years....finaly its coming right almost full movement and not much pain, i just put up with it waited and nows it nearly back to normal.....these guys are correct no miracle fix just time needed
Thank you...
I've had a frozen shoulder 2 years ago, I measured the whole thing by the amount of time I wasn't able to tie my bra, which was exactly 1 year. I had a cortisone shot once it began to thaw at the 9 month mark and it improved my mobility very quickly. I'm now 5.5 months into my second shoulder. Had 2 cortisone shots at the beginning of the inflamed period and am now about 60-70 % thawed. expect to be able to tie my bra in a couple more months. 53 years old, no diabetes, thyroid, or injuries.
Thank you for your advice, tips and demonstrations, you guys have been a tremendous help.
Me too, both shoulders at about same age. Now I broke my elbow!!! Not as much pain, but it's m 60, not 16 and the range of motion to s slowly coming back.
@NRG for me, it was 9 months.
Did the injection hurt?
I’ve got frozen shoulder for the second time. It was torture the first time when it lasted for two years. I’m considering getting the needle this time. Can you tell me if it hurts to get it?
@@p.mbhoendie4203 hurt less than the pain of the frozen shoulder
I had frozen shoulder in my left shoulder in 2019. I now have it in my right shoulder. I have seen those videos and shook my head.
I'm probably at the last stage of Frozen Shoulder, it was terrible.
The real question is what causes and how we can prevent it?
According to the Medical Medium, it is caused by shingles virus.
For women it's connected to low estrogen
I can understand why ppl may watch those shady videos; this frozen shoulder thing is PAINFUL with a capital PAINFUL.
yeah it really is. I had it in my right arm for 2 years before i had enough and did surgery. It wasn't bad the summer but winter was rough. Now i got it in my left arm and being much more aggressive. Getting surgery to have it fixed early because i don't want to go through that again.
I hope we can test getting a tube with blood and heating up the tube making the blood hotter
I believe frozen shoulder is blood circulation
I believe hotter blood will improve circulation
I have seen people who had blood clots and the way they walk looks like they have frozen body
They look like their entire body feels like frozen shoulder
I believe heating the blood in the shoulder is the answer
@@jamesmatheson5813 that was a really dumb and uneducated comment. Please stop.
I’ve been through it twice and can easily say it was the most painful thing I’ve EVER experienced, and I’ve been through some severe accidents and multiple surgeries. It is known to be one of the most painful conditions one can have. Yes-that is why (along with the disability of not being able to use the affected arm) is why people are desperate for a quick fix. It’s miserable!
@@jamesmatheson5813maybe this is why sauna helps me. Heats everything up and helps with range of motion
I’m on my 6 month and feel like a permanent Charlie horse, the constant throbbing pain can’t even get out of bed without pain to the point of dizziness and nausea made me not want to eat let alone laying down without extreme pain I pray everyone get better soon 😢❤
I'm in my 6th month with a frozen shoulder now...active climber - no idea how this hit me.
Is it getting better yours?
Mine moved over to the right shoulder after the left one healed after 2 years
Had in both shoulders 5 years apart and now feels like I’m getting it again in the right one. Can you get frozen shoulder more than once in the same shoulder?
I'm getting close to the two year point and it is getting better. Stretching and excersize seems to help. So from my experience your video is spot on.
I had frozen shoulder in my right shoulder and it was so painful. If I accidentally tried to pull or push something I would get horrible pain in my shoulder. I went to the physiotherapist and that helped. Eventually, after a couple years, the pain and stiffness went away on its own.
I had a frozen shoulder which was excruciating - my gp told me it could take up to two years to improve and i might need surgery - which given i use sticks to walk was a compete nightmare. After a lot of research i ended up doing the arms hanging while bent over and gentle swing style exercises three or four times a day and got really good results - quite a bit of relief in a few weeks and mostly recovered motion/freedom from pain in slightly less than three months
"arms hanging" . Can you talk more about this?
Can you share any video links
@@stenionet it’s called Pendulum arm exercises. Many videos but here’s one from them: ruclips.net/video/2m0UZM7-yCw/видео.html
@@virangpatel5867 it’s called Pendulum arm exercises. Many videos but here’s one from them: ruclips.net/video/2m0UZM7-yCw/видео.html
@@stenionet pendulum hanging I'm guessing
Mine healed naturally!! I did get massages, PRP therapy, took Meloxicam and it went away after a year. Love you guys!
You took Meloxicam for a year?
@@parlaqtara6692 Yes and happy to say my frozen shoulder is gone
Did you ever get the shot? I'm on meloxicam now and it doesn't seem to be helping at all. My doctor has suggested a cortisone shot but I'm too scared
@@ckgonzales6743 no cortisone shot. You don’t need it. Do physical therapy every day and get deep massage on the shoulder mine healed in about 10 months.
Like a lot of people here I've had it in my left shoulder for 3 years, the pain has now gone mostly but some limited movement still and I have had it in my right shoulder for the last 18 months, still in the painful phase. One of the most painful things you can go through, especially at night - a good 8/10 on the pain threshold.
Your exercises for recovery are the best. You guys gave me back a great range of movement. I share your methods with everyone in need. YOU ARE THE BEST PHYSICAL THERAPISTS. FULL STOP. Thanks B&B, life changing and affirming. Xx
Totally agree. With a physical therapist 2-3 times a week and doing exercises at home.. it took the better part of a year to get most of my mobility back.
Same for me. About a year to get most mobility back. Add more time to get back to "normal". It was awful.
How do you afford physio 2-3 times a week!?!? :O
First 2min perfectly explained my symptoms. Love it when the universe aligns like this.
Can you make a shoulder routine & take us through it, so we can watch it like a workout video.
They have videos on their website, they said at the end. But the exercises are mix and match depending on your needs and abilities. They can’t just make a single one-size-fits-all routine for everyone because everyone’s needs are different. You can likely do more damage doing an exercise that’s not right for you.
After watching your frozen shoulder videos, I started to do the stretches you recommended. The 2nd day things started to move.. popping and I could feel the muscle groups that were causing the problem. I didn't miraculously heal, but I did immediately realize that there was hope!!! I knew that if I followed your advice, that I could fix this shoulder myself!
After three weeks of doing the exercises and stretching for just a few minutes a day, my shoulder is 60% improved and I'm so very thankful for what you guys have done to help me. Thank you Bob and Brad. I was even at deer camp last week telling my friends about the Two Most Famous Physical Therapists On The Internet... as I was hanging from a log rafter doing my stretches. ...thanks you guys!!!
I've been battling a frozen shoulder for 16 months now.
I have watched enough videos on the subject to know what works. An whats B.S. Y'alls information has been spot on.
The best advice I received regarding a frozen shoulder injury I received came from this channel. Bob and Brad passed along a surgeon's suggestion that I hang from a chin up bar. It worked!! Got full range of back!! Two years is about right. Still have some pain in various positions but I'm so thankful for the advice. 🙌🏾
Please tell me you only did this in the thawing phase?? 😨😰😱
Hanging from a pull up bar was very painful at first, did it with partial weight/assistance from bands (stepped on band). After about 3 weeks I went smaller and smaller with the band. Now I hang 3-5 times a week (3 times per hang, 45 seconds or so). No band now. Really helps to improve shoulder mobility. Still not super comfortable, but I’m hoping it will get easier with time (about 4 months into it).
@@KawRider1 There is a piece of sports equipment, where you hang yourself upside down (inversion device e.g. Maxxus gravity pro 2) - you hang yourself up and through by your feet, good for the spine and intervertebral discs)
my wife's 2-3 years of frozen shoulder was fixed by fixing her sitting ergonomics. she had gone thru tons of therapy/tcm/massage, but her pain recurs. until one day i noticed how she 'leans forward' sitting style(supporting her head with her hand and elbow) while having hours of meetings thru her laptops.
I'm in the "thawing" phase now. This whole ordeal hit me in July of last year. I was nearly floored when my Dr. told me how long it was going to take to self correct. I'm just over 8 months into this. It was diagnosed as a pinched nerve a couple months in. I was RX'd an anti-inflammatory for a couple months, (IB wasn't cutting it), and that probably helped speed things along, until I went in for my yearly check-up, where I was told it was frozen shoulder. Husband had shoulder surgery a few months back so I started following his post surgery PT exercises at home. I think it helped me tremendously. I have almost no pain and around 75% range of motion at this time. If you're experiencing this... it DOES get better and there are ways to ease that pain. Don't hesitate to seek help from your Dr.
Thank you for the feedback. Brad
Living through my second frozen shoulder now. The first was excruciating I was in pain for a year. I mean it hurt all of the time and worse at night. I tell people that it was like being in labor for 6 months straight.Took about 2 1/2 years to resolve. The second one I had learned a few tricks. I used the heating pad during the day and in the evening while using my neck stretcher. Taking extra magnesium to help the cramping during the freezing stage, taking Irwin Naturals whole body Turmeric , and taking extra MSM and Boswellia serrated. I received a cortisone shot earlier in the course of the freezing and had acupuncture in my stomach as it really helped the first time. One more thing that helps has been having helichrysum oil combined with frankincense rubbed on my shoulder followed by diclofenac, Voltaren, gel. And finally, going keto seemed to dial the pain way back this time. These things worked for me. I hope they can help anyone else dealing with this.
God bless you for providing these life saver secrets for free
I am going to try keto
Going through menopause?
Thank you I on my second one 😞🙄
@@dellajean4876 keto for frozen shoulder?? 😂😂😂
I had a sad outcome on a frozen shoulder - I tried everything to get the shoulder mobile and nothing worked so I recommended that the person go to one of the orthos I worked with whom I had lots of confidence in to get mobilized under anesthesia and he did. What was less known is this man was so osteoporitic when he tried to mobilize him he broke the shaft of the humerus - I felt so bad for the man and me for suggesting it
My surgeon said it would resolve itself in under two years which it did. I was in so much pain I couldn’t possibly have done any stretching. Thanks for the video.
Yes, stretching hard too early does not help speed things up, it sets you back. From what I’ve learnt serious stretching is only useful when you’re up to thawing. Gentle movements when you’re still in pain to keep things mobile is the way to go. It IS too painful to stretch isn’t it?
Indeed it is! @@caravelleberecc2014
I had frozen shoulder about 5 years ago and was treated by an osteopath who specialized in this condition. It still took about a full two years to get most of my mobility back - that was with regular treatment and doing special exercises daily. I still have a bit of limitation, but for the most part, it's gone.
I met this muscular physical therapist in a Tokyo bar. I told him my shoulder was frozen - in japan we say “40 shoulder”- I guess cause older folks get it. Anyway he grabbed my shoulder, squeezed and manipulated it for several minutes. I was drunk so it helped but I was sweating and almost in tears. the next day I woke up with total mobility. I was also getting cortisone shots which would help and massaging my arm which helped a bit. But his manipulation made a huge breakthrough. 4 years later I got it in my other shoulder. less painful and stiff but I hate it.
People have a real problem with something that additional effort, cannot fix. It drives them crazy. My doctor told me I had to work the frozen shoulder, to "break up" the scar tissue. All BS. I've been in the thawing stage several months, and it's frustrating. But very slowly it is getting better. Many thanks for the truth bomb.
Dealing with a freezing shoulder. I am at week 5 post op rotator cuff surgery. Physical therapy hurts and shoulder is very sore. Like you said, this will take time. Thank you for speaking the facts.
Same condition as you have. How is your shoulder now,? ROM back? Any pain? Thanks!
I keep coming back to you 2 guys as and when i have an issue and without fail your advice has helped greatly.
I wish Bob could get something that could help him through his illness and get a little back from all he has given people over the years. Thanks guys.
I’ve been in pain for 2 years, it has gotten slightly better, but not by much. I’ve went through physical therapy, this is excruciating. It happened after a rotator cuff injury.
I had it in both shoulders. Right side got better but the left side needed surgery. We discovered I had a bone spur that caused tons of scar tissue and all the stretches in the world would not have helped. I have full range of movement now YAY. Surgery was only half of it, though. PT is what made me 100% well. I had a fabulous therapist who was tough but it was so worth it.
After three years in the frozen phase, I needed surgery to correct both shoulders. They were severely frozen. The surgeon said it would never thaw on its own. Two years later I'm still rehabbing, still pain in the left. ROM is back at least, but there were a lot of adhesions on the surrounding tissue and it still needs rehab. Oh well. It'll be five years having this problem in June 2021. This has been extremely difficult to live with. My take on my problem? It's genetic (runs in my family) and a high-sugar diet probably didn't help my cause.
If you're one of those people who never "thaws" and needs surgeries like me, my suggestion is to get the surgery and then rehab for over a year before trying to return to activities. I went back to golf too quickly, suffered an aggravation, and 16 months later, I'm still in pain. Good luck.
So 3 years later, did it get better?
Thank you for being truthful and dispel the myths.
Got it in both shoulders at the same time. Right side went away by itself after about 6 months. Left side still frozen after a year and a half. Started stretching 3 weeks ago. Will see how much longer it takes
Had a bad frozen shoulder 10 years ago EXCRUCIATING and couldn’t drive and couldn’t sleep so had keyhole surgery. Was a lot better instantly BUT had to do stretches every day and it HURT. Had another round in same shoulder last year. Not as bad and was sceptical but tried saline injections into shoulder and had a surprisingly good result. I still had to do a lot of physio every day to keep it mobile. I still do exercises every day a year later as I have limited movement in some actions. Don’t try and be a hero and get through it doing nothing the surgery and the saline were good depending on how bad it is and you heal a lot quicker. Saline procedure doesn’t hurt at all.
Thank you for your post. What is the formal title of the doctor you saw for a saline procedure? Did you go to a type of specialist? I would be willing to try a procedure like this...
I had all stages, it lasted 20 months. My mobility came back around 95%, but no I'm started with the same symptoms on the same shoulder. Blessed I am that I have the tools and knowledge to take care of it, thamks to my Dr. Martinez and you guys.
I had a procedure done called hydro dilatation yesterday and was given exercises to do every hour (while awake) for 3 days and then 3 times a day thereafter. I felt an immediate difference in the pain. There isn't any to speak of. And my motion has already increased from about 50% to 80%. I will keep you all posted on progress. I really respect you two guys but I think you should research this procedure.
I had this done to and worked, but two years on it has come back
I will get this done again
I got it from an accident. I was holding a doorknob behind my back as i slipped.. my arm got pulled to the back and pretty high. I felt a slight crack. It got inflamed and after i had serious trouble moving it as it was freezing. It's in frozen state currently for a week. Did many excersises for 2x 2 hours, two days, and i can do almost all motions but with only 75% power but hard to put my hand behind my back. It feels like it damages the front shoulder attachements. Hope this being lean for now will help get thru the thawing stage.
Reliefed to hear that it actually *can* thaw. I feared for having to go see the butcher.
Will your operation not prevent the self healing aspect of the condition later ?
No, it won't hurt self healing. I am still doing stretching exercises. So far, so good!
@@alainvosselman9960ç on in bloom🎉,
Thanks for Sharing about your hydrodilation procedure
I'm doing my final degree project on this pathology ! I will listen carefully !
I've just been diagnosed with a frozen shoulder, soo painful when in the frozen stage, just coming out of it after one and half years. I do regular stretching for it, even though I have to peel myself off the ceiling after 😂 I now have complete sympathy with my mum who has had this for years! Same shoulder with both of us, the left.
Me too. Left.
Years ago I rubbed castor oil on my frozen shoulder 3 times/day; in about 2 wks I noticed improvement. It pretty much went away after a few mos. I’d say that was an easy fix. I had tried a lot of different ways but nothing else worked.
This is the second time after years that I am experiencing it and I just want to know what triggers it. It is really very frustrating. Thank you for making this educational video.
10 months to freeze! Unbelievable pain for last 4 months straight and no sleep. It took 2+ years to get about 75% recovery. Now on my second shoulder. I'm not doing any PT this time, I think it caused it to take longer to freeze in my case. In the freezing stage I don't think there is anything that will help. After frozen and in unfreezing stage is when to try to help it along. Good luck to all.
You might find some info I wrote in a blog post about FS helpful. Search My Frozen Shoulder Experience
Mine started in April of 2019 and I still have limited range of motion and pain. I was just doing light stretching while standing and felt a slight twinge. That started the long road of exactly what they explained in the video. I’ve had 3 injections, over 9-12 months, but decided to just deal with it since I didn’t want too many of them. My Dr just said he couldn’t “go in” with it so inflamed. I’m glad to hear I still might get back to normal on its own. Thank you for the information!
I"ve had adhesive capsulitis in both shoulders for nearly ten years now. Most of the time, it's just a little pain if I lift my arm the wrong way or reach behind my back or something. But one time about five years ago, it got so bad in my right arm that I could hardly move it at all, and I had to see a doctor. Now my left shoulder seems to be headed in that direction. It sucks.
My wife had frozen shoulder in both shoulders but it started at different times. She did exercises for one shoulder and it helped with range of motion after, but the exercises left her sore and not able to sleep so she quit. Both shoulders took about the same time to recover. Her dad had it too in his fifties. My wife was 50. The Japanese call it 五十肩(50 shoulder) because it is something a lot of them get in their 50s. What I read about it is if you treat with PT it lasts about 24 months and if you do nothing it lasts about 2 years. The only 60 second cure is a shot of whiskey.
I will say the strengthening exercises have kept me from hurting my arm every week when I do simple tasks that "jarr or jam" my arm that used to send me into tears
Agree 100% LOL. I'm convinced PT caused my shoulder to take longer to freeze! Just a theory but this second shoulder I'm just going to let it go at it's own speed.
Swimming daily breast stroke for 4 weeks cured my shoulder for 90%. Better than all the alternatives I tried.
I couldn't swim with my frozen shoulder. The pain keeps me up all night and has changed my whole life. I had it first on the left side. Then a year later the left one healed, but then the right one started. I think there is more arthritis in my right shoulder which makes it worse. This is pain you won't forget. I take medication for pain, but it only takes the edge off. I don't see how swimming can fix this. I did heavy lifting for 30+ years.
@@dellajean4876 Hi Della-Cate. All I can say is that it did help me extremely well. In the beginning the swimming was hard for me too and didn't do many laps. I think the movement in the weightless environment could be beneficial for a frozen shoulder. Greetings Pete
Yeah it depends on what is causing your frozen shoulder symptoms and how long you had it.
Usually it's caused by tight muscles/ligaments, other times it's do to scar tissue, and in rare cases it's caused by extra bone growth/bad impingement.
@@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven Those are all different conditions. Frozen shoulder is about fibrotic adhesions in the capsule.
@@litsci1877 That is True, thou I was saying all those things could appear to be "Frozen Shoulder" or misidentified.
Try this one for a big lie!
Daily swim approx 500 mtr breast stroke. And see how your shoulder feels after a month.
Had a frozen shoulder and couldn't lift my arm more than 30 degrees. After a week could lift my arm to shoulder height. Could raise my arm fully after a month. I had to cancel my appointments with physio, shoulder surgeon, etc.
I am not a health professional and cannot give medical advice but this helped me.
How do you do breast strokes with a frozen shoulder?
so diagnosed with a frozen shoulder 3 months after a car accident. Seeing a shoulder specialist for the shoulder and neck/spine specialist for my neck pain..The Shoulder specialist told me to start PT , which will happen in 2 weeks. The neck guy prescribed a steroid injection for my neck pain after an MRI. So 2 days after the steroid injection in my neck the frozen shoulder is much less frozen. I am happy but will do PT and start some of the excersies I have seen specifically fir frozen shoulder. Love you guys and thanks for the help
Definitely true. There are a lot of side effects as well... I slept in a recliner for months. I used to be a stomach sleeper with my arms above my head and still can't do that. I did occupational therapy both times and it helps a lot (one shoulder about 2-3 years before the other froze). I would even say that 100% isn't even in 2 years and that some people only recover 80% and no more. It's been tough.
@@tracyvision thanks!
I just found out I have frozen shoulder but my neck is affected and all the way down my left arm and fatty part of my hand below the thumb area. Can a frozen shoulder do all that? When it first started, I thought I was having a heart attack because of the arm pain and lack of mobility. I called my doctor and she ordered X-rays and they showed my ball joint in my shoulder was not rotating. Very painful, but not as painful as kidney stones. Thank you for the free helpful videos and pass. I’m 70 and still working (inflation) ugh so I need to stay healthy.
Sorry you are having to go through all this! Here are some more videos that may be helpful: www.youtube.com/@BobandBrad/search?query=frozen%20shoulder
I have had frozen shoulder twice. The first time I tried physio, a cortisone shot eventually had surgery which did improve my pain and range of motion almost immediately but I had to do about 9 more months of physio afterwards. It was a long, expensive process.
The second time I got it, nine years later, I ignored it for 8 or 9 months and the pain was getting pretty frustrating so I tried shockwave therapy and it was terrific. I had significant improvement after the first treatment, no cortisone, no physio, no surgery. I had 8 or 9 treatments in total and was completely cured. If I ever get it again I will be running for shockwave therapy immediately.
Thank you. What is shockwave therapy and how can I get it?
my wife has this going on, and i feel so helpless. she is in pain, and there is nothing i can do to help her.... it totally sucks to watch how this crap issue is just grinding down her spirits, its frigging heart breaking, and i feel like a useless idiot because there is nothing i can do, other than trying to lift her spirits... it wakes her up all night, hurts when she moves her arm in certain directions... i wouldnt wish this on my worst enemy.
Ive had it twice, with the worse one last 8 months. I can deal with pain, its the lack of sleep when you move in the night and the pain bolts you awake that really got me. But to see my wife suffering, that kills me, breaks my heart. I wish i wasnt so damn useless, If i could take her pain, id do it without hesitation.
Anyway, from every thing im reading here, forget PT, do your exercises after a nice hot shower, and just keep at it, the last phase of this horrible affliction is it releases. Right?
I feel you and your wife’s pain. I’ve had it for a year and it got progressively worse. Last night I did something in my sleep and jumped out of bed in the worst pain I’ve ever experienced. Almost brought me to tears and I’m a 47 year old man. Keep up the gentle exercises. I’m going in for a steroid injection so we’ll see how that goes.
I was hopeful from your video on the exercises to recover in a couple of months but now I realize that is unrealistic. Thank you for telling us the truth about it. It will just take me longer to get better.
I had a frozen shoulder and it was so painful... they gave me a cortisone shot and that did help instantly. Then i started physical therapy for a good 6 months. Finally it went away... thank god. Now here I am 20 years later and I have a frozen shoulder again in the same arm. It hurts bad especially when i go to reach over my head. Painful when I go to bed too. I'm going to the doctor this week. I'll watch your exercise videos and try to get some relief. I keep putting ice and heat on it. Not fun=(
Bob and Brad are very helpful!
I am having my SECOND frozen shoulder injury. I so appreciate you two for calling out the dumbass gimmicks that others have promoted. Frozen shoulder is a REAL, long, & painful condition. Heat packs help a tiny bit. Stretching every hour helps a tiny bit. Chiropractic care and acupuncture help somewhat. Honestly, I think The two things that have helped me the most are following a diet with no inflammatory foods and using an infrared light. Also TENS offers a little relief.
I'm having my second frozen shoulder as well. I am probably in frozen stage, but still with a lot of pain, mostly in the wee hours of the morning or when I move suddenly. My situation this time has arisen as complication from my mastectomy and the chemotherapy that came before the surgery, and in breast cancer patients in general. There is literature saying that, for those who have any of the predispositions for frozen shoulder, any sort of upper body surgery, or receiving of chemotherapy drugs and/or radiation treatment for cancer can open the door to frozen shoulder. I had surgery, chemo, am female, over 60, had frozen shoulder before (on other side), and have hooked or curved acromion process. Slam dunk I'd get it. My PT says they very often see frozen shoulder 6-12 months after mastectomy. Before my shoulder froze, I was even doing strength training with a professional trainer as part of my PT rehab after my mastectomy. I looked back at my records, and it took 15-16 months with constant therapy starting around the 4th month in to resolve my shoulder the first time. Hoping for that good this time. Good luck to everyone suffering through this.
Wow thanks. I thought of the Infra red light. I lived in Europe and wonder why so many people use these lights.
I have had open surgery twice for frozen shoulder. Once in May 2022 and again October 2022. Unfortunately I'm type 1 diabetic which is why it returned so soon. I'm in physical therapy 7 days a week which is painful. My shoulder is not any better and I'm scared.
Would you please post more info about the infrared light? Thank you!
Once again if I have any physical problems I just go straight to Bob and Brad. Saves me having to troll through all the snake oil that's touted on some RUclips channels. Bob and Brad the best physical therapist on the Internet even if they say so themselves.
This was a very good video exposing some titles and informing, thank you very much.
The surgeon told me I need to have Hydrodilation for my frozen shoulder then within a few hours have physical therapy then after a month of pt get surgery. What do you think? It's for a torn rotator cuff.
I love this channel and theme song. Great topic. Never heard of Frozen shoulder before.
The song should be nominated for a grammy
I wish I had never heard of it. It hurts, arthritis, bone spur, and a former tear. Ugh.
@@karenbrown5177 Omg really? That's a lot to take in. Wishing you well, and hoping for speedy recovery and better days.
Im 67 and fell on my shoulder so hard it badly damaged my tendons and froze my shoulder.
So much pain and limited my range of movent.Its been one year and 3 months with intensive physio.
Still not the same strength wise as well.Hoping to get back to work soon.
Hope our video can help.
@@BobandBrad i love your videos.i do the exercises in front of the screen.
When should you consider surgery? 10 years and I tried everything, possible some of the therapies you read during this video. I wasted a great deal of money. I appreciate your honesty, a rare commodity in this world.
Thank you this gave me hope. I’m in the thawing phase but this started in April (welcome to my Covid fun) I’ve done physical therapy but really I’m using bands at home now to stretch and I’m worried about weakness.
I didn’t know what to do when my frozen shoulder started. Unfortunately the first few weeks all the research I did on YT recommended lots of stretching and even hanging from a bar with the weight of your body. This for me we a BIG mistake. I learned later that you shouldn’t do any kind of aggressive stretching until the shoulder is in the third stage of unfreezing. Only perhaps very gentle ones and not into a lot of pain. Also I found out later that if there is no direct cause of your frozen shoulder (idiopathic) … 95% of those will returned to normal on their own with no treatment of any kind. It was a bit late for you but I stopped my exercises right away and am now concentrating on long hot showers, gently movement, some Advil every day and magnesium before I go to bed, I think I hurt myself pretty badly with all that I did at the beginning but I”m hoping it will resolve itself, I’m now about 8 weeks in to the freezing part and it’s definitely getting stiffer. I’m going to just take it very easy and wait till the third stage before any therapy. If I remember I’ll come back and do an update on any progress …. Good luck everybody …
Update: A year after the initial onset of FS I am now pretty well completely resolved. I learned a lot about FS and made a blog post about it. If you search on the internet it’s called My Frozen Shoulder Experience.
Hi, do you have a link for it? Thanks
My left shoulder froze in 2018 age 56. Hurt like hell, pain woke me up when I moved. Couldn't take anymore and saw dr. PT for a couple months. After 8 months big increase in range and reduction in pain. Not sure PT helped but I was willing do whatever it took to make it go away. After about 18 months I was back to normal, pretty much.
Then in 2021 my right shoulder froze. At least I know what I'm in for. Hasn't been as painful as before. I'm now six months in. No doctors or PT, handling it at home with stretches. Fingers crossed.
I'm now a year and a half into my frozen right shoulder. About a month ago it was getting worse so I started hanging from a branch on a tree. It hurt but it seemed to tear lose some adhesions and improved range of motion. So I try to hang every day. I don't notice it except with anything like a throwing motion or reaching behind my back. This has lasted much longer then my left frozen shoulder but is nowhere near as painful.
Forgot to mention that for my left shoulder at PT they tried TENS and it was completely useless. TENS has nothing to do with the adhesions inside the shoulder; I don't know why the PT wasted my time with it.
After 2 years with to many injections and waiting for improvement. I finally had my surgery. Thank good.
If I'm right, a frozen shoulder is often caused by an form of inflammation. So, I guess when you could stop the inflammation the frozen shoulder goes away. Don't know of this kind of inflammation can also be stopped by changing your diet... Do you have any experience with clients getting healed after changing there diet? Or in what sence can your diet help you against a frozen shoulder?
That’s the conclusion I came to …
Frozen shoulder is probably in most cases caused by Magnesium deficiency.
Take as much Magnesium you can hold (loose stool), and you will feel better (less extreme pain) in few days insted of several months.
I am going through physical therapy right now for a bone spur with a torn supraspanative and frozen shoulder. It's very painful. 2 hours of stretching, exercise and manipulation doesn't help like that....I seriously doubt 60 seconds would do anything at all.
I've had a frozen shoulder for 10 months now, I have spent over £200 on therapies that had zero effect. I am so glad I watched this video, it has resolved me to stop looking for miracle cures and work on being patient instead. On a positive note, I have had to learn to use my left arm to do many more things so by the time I heal I will be more ambidextrous than before my shoulder froze.
It will improve, keep up the good attitude. Brad
I had frozen shoulder in my left shoulder 12 yrs ago and started freezing in my right last summer and froze up in November and still frozen today . I’ve done it all my stretches chiropractic and massage. Just yesterday a doctor told me 6 weeks with therapy it would be gone without 2 yrs . Really hurt my feelings because people educated people and doctors of all people really don’t understand what we experience! I tools him I did the therapy for months the first time around and my therapist let me go after saying YOU HAVE THE FIRST TRUE CASE OF FROZEN SHOULDER I HAVE EVER SEEN !
I developed a frozen shoulder in March this year. Very painful, lack of sleep, I was prescribed strong pain relief by my physiotherapist who works at my local Doctors Surgery(UK). Eventually, after persevering with physiotherapy and various (RUclips) exercises I booked an appointment with my General Practice Doctor, who injected a steroid and anaesthetic combination into my shoulder (from behind). The affect was almost instant and within 2 weeks the pain had gone and because I had no pain I started using the shoulder (and arm) and so the mobility of my shoulder and arm is improving every day. Apparently the injections don't work for everyone but if you are suffering, I would recommend that the steroid route be explored sooner, rather than later.
What was the space of time from diagnosis and injection. I have bursitis, diagnosed early July and mid August cortisone shot taken. In two days the pain of the injection is settling down, I got out of my fear and day two I have gained a bit of strength to grip things and from tomorrow I'm starting this therapy 3 times a day for 12 weeks. One day a week at the therapist and two days at home and increasing weight every other week starting with 400g and increased repetition. As the therapy increases the weights increase and repetition reduce. So let's see. I'm in constant pain when I'm idle so might as well do the damn exercises.
I'm on my second and I really wish both of mine had only taken 6 to 9 weeks to freeze! Try 18 months for the first and 15 months and counting for the second and that's JUST the freezing stage.
Man I came here with a pain but at least got good laugh which is good for health this minute. You guys are hilarious as well as knowledgable. Thanks.
For months, I have been dealing with what I thought were rotator cuff issues in both shoulders due to extreme overexertion last summer.
No amount of Acetaminophen, Ibuprofen, or N-Said seemed to provide any relief to the constant and often excruciating pain I was dealing with in my shoulders. It hurt like crazy just to put on a T-Shirt, for Pete's sake.
But now, I suspect that I was/am dealing with frozen shoulder or some form of muscle adhesion.
Why? Because a little over a week ago, I tripped and fell. I'm about 315 lbs, late fifties, and I went down hard. I landed on my left shoulder, and it hurt quite a bit.
Two days after the fall, and since then, I am nearly pain-free in both of my shoulders. No need for any pain killers.
It seems too good to be true. Thoughts?
I'm in the second stage and it's been about 5 months, it's been really hard to do my electrical job with limited motion on my right shoulder. I'm ready for a thaw, does deep massage help?
I love it when you said, there is no research!
I experienced injuries in my shoulder following a severe accident that resulted in a fractured clavicle and facial injuries. Approximately three months after the incident, I began experiencing significant shoulder pain. Initially, my healthcare provider focused on my collarbone. However, I continued to report that the pain was unrelated to my collarbone. After six months of X-rays, they continued to tell me it was my collarbone.
Dissatisfied with the lack of progress, I decided to switch my primary care provider and sought care at a different hospital. There, I received a prompt and accurate diagnosis of frozen shoulder in both shoulders. The treatment included cortisone injections and a home exercise regimen, which significantly improved my condition. After six weeks, I am pleased to report a 90% improvement in mobility and pain levels.
I was just diagnosed with frozen shoulder. I would love to see more information about this and with conjunction with going to physical therapy so I know what to expect and how to heal.
Stick with B&B, they know their stuff. Even a *lot* of MD's don't know much. My (former) doctor said his mom had it, and got over it in a couple of months...like I had no excuse for spending 6 months in the freezing to frozen state B&B talked about.😒 It was slightly over 2 years to my complete healing and restored range of motion. During that time I had 2 surgeries because the pain was unbearable. Those were each followed by hundreds, and possibly thousands of hours of stretches and resistance exercises. All cases can be different. I hope yours goes well.
Heard of many frozen shoulders,, since I’m a exercise instructor. Bob and Brad your the best💕
Got 2 needles in the shoulder, adrenaline did the trick. Still gotta do the stretches and exercises but going into weights soon. Big relief, thought it was a rotary cuff tare. I was currently in the start of thawing stage but the needles helped.
My shoulder has a started to feel tight and sometimes clicks with movement. I have full range of motion most of the time , no pain but some stiffness and restriction on occasion. Is this the start of frozen shoulder ? I have a massage once a month that works out the tightness and helps range of motion. Suggestions?
We cannot answer individual medical questions online without a proper examination so we wouldn't be able to tell you if it's the beginning of frozen shoulder or not. However, stretching sounds like it might help so here are some videos you can try : www.youtube.com/@BobandBrad/search?query=shoulder%20stretching
If any of them cause more pain or new pain, stop that exercise immediately.
I occasionally get what seems like frozen shoulder (extreme pain in the shoulder and limited movement) but it usually clears up in a week or less. This has been happening to me since my mid 20s and now I’m 40. Usually it happens after a long stint in front of a laptop. If it’s not frozen shoulder, any suggestion on what it could be…???
Shockwave therapy (4 treatments) thawed my frozen shoulder after 7 months of being freezing and frozen. It was administered by a chiropractor. 😃 Now I’m working through my muscle tightness from immobility.
Thanks for that! It's rather reassuring after having read some medical literature..
They all advocate, the cortison injection in intra-articular space. I am an allergic to these substances..
What do you think about it?😊
I can't take steroids. Cortizone is a steroid. What is the alternative?
Just wanted to ad some input on this, I just had a non surgical manual manipulation of my shoulder. Before the procedure this morning, I couldn't lift my arm above my shoulder level. 12 hours later after the procedure I have a full lift to my ear. No surgery, but was under light anesthesia and the whole process took less then an hour. I'm just a little sore but no more pain. People seeing this video and losing hope for help on the like I did. Go talk to an orthopedic shoulder Dr and ask about manual manipulation of the shoulder.
Can you tell me how much pain you experienced with the MUI? Did you remember the procedure?
I had arthroscopic surgery on my other shoulder and I’m hoping to avoid it with this one.
@@DMC888 maybe like a 2 on the pain scale but for like a day. I'm three week out from the procedure and still a little discomfort but more from the PT exercises and it's just soreness really. Nothing like the pain from the frozen shoulder itself. Seriously do it if you have a doctor that can preform it. Totally worth it! I got my beauty queen wave back next day LoL As for remembering it, not a thing, I was knocked out asleep for the whole thing.
Rolling the dice with this procedure -- the doc can inadvertantly damage nerves, rupture structures, and cause more inflammation/scarring.
@@litsci1877 true, but that's with anything in life. I'm now ten months out from having this done and got my life back again. No pain, like that whole episode of the last 2 years never happened. Full range of motion as before, just lost mussel strength from babying and not using that arm, that's coming back with work. Not saying it's the only choice, but the "surgery" is another choice over PT stretching. And the PT stretching after the procedure are fantastic!
I’m in the freezing stage and have been for 6 months. I’ve had physio and now awaiting a second lot of physio. Awaiting a cortisone jab too. So painful in rotation moves especially. I’m massaging myself deep into the painful areas, and do what exercises that I can bear, but most exercises are too painful to carry out. Help! 😢
I have had it multiple times. The first time I just thought it was a standard injury and needed to heal, but instead it just froze more, and I ended up having it fixed under anaesthesia.
After that I got a good massager and when I feel it start to freeze I can fix it by massage a few times everyday for a week.
But I have no training and that is just what works for me.
I had an osteopath do some serious massage, then I did some exercises, within 3 months it was nearly gone, but I can never lie on the side that is sore, cause the pain starts to come back, and now after 7 years, its back again, so here goes again.
I’m getting improvement in pain and movement from cupping. It’s not a miracle cure but it’s a noticeable difference! I bought a set on Amazon for $25
What is cupping?
Thank God for you two!
ruh roh, just got a confirmation today from a therapist. my doc saw that it may be frozen shoulder for my right arm in January... started the first phase in December during my workman comp therapy of my right hand. apparently, my whole right arm was affected during the 2 months of inactivity in a hand cast after a surgery in Aug. So each person will recover at different times :( i am starting phase 2 of the condition now
I felt PT was just paying money for additional pain. I switched over to the do nothing method and it eventually went away.
Have had this adhesive capsulitis for 7 years now. Had cortisone shots and surgery after first year. I’m guessing I just helped the osteo buy a new car... and I didn’t even get to see it! 🤷🏻♀️
I got a bicep tendon that comes out and inflames. I have to put it back in constantly. how can I keep it in place.