2018 Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - One Take
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024
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The Porsche Panamera has always been the best-driving full size sedan money can buy, especially the top-trim "Turbo S" verison. For 2018 though, Porsche has shaken up the formula by adapting the 918 Spyder's "Performance Hybrid" technology to the $200,000 super-sedan, creating a 680 HP monster of an executive sedan capable of accelerating, stopping, and handling like a supercar, while also achieving best-in-class efficiency. There is so much technology in this car it's unbelievable, and although Matt does his best to cover all of it, there is too much to fit in one video so make sure to listen to the discussion on The Smoking Tire podcast for more.
Porsche provided the airfare from LAX to Victoria, BC, lodging, one meal, the vehicle, gas, and insurance for this review.
that interior is a work of art... Absolutely beautiful.
I wish I could shit out panameras
RUclips Videos And the price tag is exponentially higher than your NET worth will ever be lol.
This comment chain is a special ed roast session
RUclips Videos, Did you really just try to call him out for using "lol" on the INTERNET? HAHA
Good one, hope that validates some sort of impotence that you experience ;)
Respect to matt for telling everyone that Porsche paid for his accom and food; not enough journalists do this 👌🏿💯
He didn’t tell us about the hooker they sent to his room though.
It's not the actual brake calipers and rotors that do the regenerative braking. It's the electric motor absorbing some of the torque from the driveline while slowing.
That's why it's so hard for manufacturers to calibrate and balance the pedal feel, and why most hybrids have strange braking characteristics.
Thanks Casey. I'm astonished no one else noticed.
stashgumbo I did too, I assumed Matt just misspoke. It's hard to spout off info like he does while driving quick.
Was gonna say this. Brakes turn momentum into heat only.
Finally. Someone gets how regenerative braking actually works.
Came here to say this. Regen brakes turn your electric motor into a generator.
But how does it handle in the open water? :P
this is actually way cheaper than the turbo in many EU countries where there are tax benefits for low emission cars
Yup, here in Finland a base model Turbo S E-Hybrid costs 45k€ less than a base Panamera Turbo.
Matt's the kind of guy to make good money selling Ball Powder
teige Hanley?
Khu NoPie i was the first to like your comment early this morning, and am glad to see its gotten some recognition. Hilarious lmao
Now people want recognition for being the first to like a comment? Is this what we've become? Go learn a sport and be first in something meaningful. Fuck.
Demitri Solvinski kids like you ruin the internet.. Nobody here gives a shit about being first... I only said it to further and indirectly explain WHY im glad to see the comment has so many likes... Didnt save me any typing as im here explaining myself to you anyways...
Stay in school because you clearly fucking need it, badly.
The e-charge mode sounds like the best system in a hybrid, i like the idea of charging on freeways and not polluting in cities
Lime green=the new best caliper color
Swaz the Porsche hybrid has been rocking it for years!
Swaz it‘s called acid green bitch
The same color as the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles ooozzzzzz.
smasila thats not even the same green
Best Vines Ever thank you I was about to write the same thing
That's a good exuse if you get pulled over: I was trying to top up my battery, so I can drive in electric mode in town, officer.
Someone's parent at my school, has a Panamera, and he managed to make it uglier with a reflective gold wrap. It looks like something a rich carpet dealer from a Bollywood movie drives.
AK02 lmao
AK02 question: what's worse - reflective gold wrap or that fluffy velvet wrap? I see that fluffy shit on a base CLS on 17in rims, my IQ immediately dropped
AK02 it really doesn't fit in with your lifted f150 with Mercia' flags all over it eh
You spelled Persian wrong
Am Persian. Can confirm
The brake calipers don't help with regenerative braking? Correct me if I'm wrong?
its got more battery power than the prius total power..V_V
Ek Seng Ng / it should, it's 20 times more expensive.
Yeah, but I've seen priuses with 500.000 km on the clock and still running. The panamera will barely last 100.000 km.
I own the Cayenne S E-Hybrid which I bought for my wife and I love it! Just like you matt at first I was 'so so' but the more I drove it the more I love it and now I can't wait for all the cars to be like this. Amazing tech. I love the E-Hybrid!
That car is just beautiful. It's beautiful visually, technologically and emotionally. It's just insane.
I really hated panamera for the looks, but i really like it for its features and engineering put into it
For those you wondering why the car has German plates, Canada gives temporary permits for vehicles to be imported into the country for "exhibition", "demonstration" and "evaluating or testing" for up to one year without being registered. Yes, you can legally import any car into Canada and drive it around with foreign plates for up to a year with a temporary permit.
Really cool car. Time will bring these systems into a realistic price point but credit to Porsche for coming out with this integrated tech.
The technology in this car is just mind boggling. Porsche is doing a great job of being one of the few performance manufacturers doing what everybody else will be doing in about 5, 10 year's time. That being said, the maintenance cost will also be mind boggling if one of the powertrain components go wrong, but if you can afford this, then you won't necessarily worry about that either.
At a Concours D'Elegance show in North Carolina, I got to ride shotgun in a 2017 Panamera Turbo. Before that, the most Horsepower I had seen in a car was about 380-ish from an F-Type S. That Panamera was 550.
When we merged onto the highway, it felt as if my lungs were slammed into the back of my chest. I'd kill for that feeling again.
Water bottles in the back, Matt's an über driver?
That road he's driving is my backyard, and I'm glad I got to see it through the smoking tire lens, trucks, rental campers, and blind corners, welcome to beautiful BC.
Hope you enjoyed your time in Beautiful British Columbia. How was the new racetrack?
very cool. little tight for a Panamera haha, but in a Cayman it would have been the tits.
TheSmokingTire Would have been great if Silver Arrow Cars in Victoria had hooked you up with some of their beauties ,to hit the track.
5,000+ pounds and still ridiculously quick
After watching this months later again . I'm truly appreciating this hybrid and it's technology . If there is any car worth over $100k it's this one .
Suggestion for future videos: It would be nice to see a more thorough view of the interior, especially on the more luxury/comfort based cars. Maybe more shots of the center console, and back seats as well as notable amenities for passengers like entertainment systems. Keep up the good work Matt!
Yeah, in cars like this with lots of back seat entertainment he should sit in the rear seats and show off all the toys.
Matt, how long does the battery last? I had a bad experience in a T8 Volvo XC 90. Rated at 400bhp combined power. My experience was the electric motor drove the rear wheels so when the battery was dead I don't have AWD. Also the battery took hours to charge and would only last 8 miles real world driving. Also you could charge the battery with engine, but the gas tank was so small because of how much room the battery took up. So my question is how long did the battery last? When the battery dies does it affect the drivetrain? How's the range of gas tank?
And it (the panamera) now comes in a wagon version too.. Win-win...the hyper yellow accents are nice and different, but those that don't like the attention can get the calipers in black...thanks matt, hope you enjoyed your trip
Damm those mountains, absolutely gorgeous!
Great video!
17:38 Complaint addressed. E-Hybrid Turbo S now available for the Sport Turismo.
silly question, but if you run out of gasoline will the electric engine hop on ?
Your equation for limo+tesla+volt didn't include V8. V8 is a big part of the dollar.
The question is, once depreciation hits these if the battery maintenance would be worth it. The car seems like the perfect crazy fast daily
This is one of your best videos in my opinion, love the casual driving and talking. Lol stay in Canada!
any idea how cold weather might affect the performance of the E-Hybrid's electric engine and batteries?
Hell yeah brother! You're on the Cleetus mcfarland's youtu.....oops sorry, wrong channel!
Dude your doing the port Renfrew loop! I drive this at least once a week
Just finished the video, you didn't even drive far enough to get to the good stuff :p super twisty and scenic like 20 minutes further and like an hour of just awesomeness
Can you google map me? I want to drive this! Im on the mainland
is it just me or is 10-piston calipers not the same thing as regenerative brakes.. (around 9:05)
I have been waiting to see this video! I live in Victoria and took a trip up island and passed a fleet of Panameras and thought to my self hmm that one looked like Matt was driving it, no way. Glad you got to enjoy some of our roads up here! (Even though they have horridly slow speed limits) Hope you enjoyed the VI Motorsport circuit too!
If we are talking about a hybrid, how is the mpg?
Maybe I missed it, but what do you think people would cross-shop this against?
how much better MPG does this car get vs the normal turbo?
Hey Matt, I can't speak for any other province except Ontario, but here's the rules on passing:
Even on a solid line, you are allowed to pass (E.g. you can't receive a ticket), but obviously, if you cause an accident while passing on a "don't try to pass here" area, you'll be screwed. Line Markings don't construe laws in Ontario, but I am not 100% about the rest of the country.
Pacific Marine Rd ??? Connecting Lake Cowichan to Port Renfrew ? It looks familiar.. and you are in the right area. Hope you enjoyed your time on the Island. Having just moved here; I'm learning there are some wicked beautiful roads to drive on here.
Where was this drive? I'm going to Vancouver late August and I'd love to rent a car and come here.
Porsche now makes a land yacht.
So how do you like Vancouver? Island?
Where is the location of this shoot?
How do you compare this car to the RS7?
If money was no issue would you prefer this Panamera or the Ferrari GTC4 Lusso instead?
This should be the future of hybrid technology, love it!
I'd like to watch a diagnostic & repair video on this car.
Hey Matt, are the Smoking tire snapbacks going back on sale? I regret not getting one 😭
i dont know what should i buy this one or the bmw 760 LI M-paket.
is it better than the e63 amg wagon?
I feel like your Grand Seiko is a perfect compliment to the Porsche. They're both high-end hybrids, of a sort.
So what is the rule when there is no center line?
What is under the under-hood?
How did you like Victoria, Matt?
I'm just sitting here wondering how much time and money it costs to service the brakes; let alone the whole damn car.
That thing has a gorgeous interior
Euro plates front/back in Canada... Wtf? Must have a "In transit" registration i'm guessing...
What kind of watch are you wearing mate?
Wow i never thought matt would travel so close to where i live, i hope you liked Victoria!
Alex1130 Nice to see Matt getting the BC invite from Porsche. He could have come to the Okanagan to check out Area 27 as well.
I enjoy when Matt passes slow cars.
This might be ur best review yet !
Hi Matt, visited ‘auto salon Singen’? It’s walhalla for car guys I think 😋
Love these reviews, and I don't mind the notes whatsoever. Glad you care about getting your facts straight and the information out there.
If the hybrid battery actually charged up during a hot lap then either a) the car was in the wrong mode, or b) the car wasn't being pushed hard. Does anyone else see how that's not possible? For every braking zone on a racetrack there's an acceleration zone right after it, and the generators aren't doing all the braking- the brakes work too. Even so, it's not possible for the car to have gained battery energy if it was using its full power.
Sounds strange but for over 200,000 it should have some seriously efficient and effective generators.
It really depends. With a car that fast, how much time are you really going to have the pedal mashed to the floor?
Every second the engine is on w/pedal anywhere put mashed... the engine is also charging battery. Assuming motor is behind the trans, gearing will affect that a lot too. When you downshift in high revs, you're charging the ever living fuck out of the batteries.
It wouldn't surprise me at all that some tracks put more into battery than take out when the engine is pushing 550hp on its own. With a boat and no aero like that... how much can you really come hard out of every corner? I wouldn't be surprised if analysis showed you rarely even got into the electric hp on top of the engine.
Is actually possible... But for more battery power, you will be using a little more of gasoline in combination with the braking regeneration!
The only other time I've heard 10 pot calipers being mentioned was on the New Zealand based UKGIRL N14 Pulsar Auto Salon car from the mid-2000s
Did I hear the rev limiter?
you should bring a little dash mat to put under your camera so we don't have to stare at the dash glare
Question. In electric mode, I presume the gas motor would be turned off. So in electric mode, does the air conditioner still work? Meaning the AC compressor and everything?
I would assume the electric motor is also capable of powering the drive belt, so you'd still have AC, alternator, etc.
Ok.
interior review next? (Back seats mainly)
Did they state unequivocally that there wouldn't be a Sport Turismo Turbo S E-Hybrid? I just assumed that was coming, there isn't really a reason I can think of why they wouldn't build it.
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Great review, Matt. The hybrid Panamera Executive is my dream sedan...and a definite buy - if/when I win the lottery!
$215,000 i aint got dime for that
People in Vancouver do... rich fuckers. Usually Asian.
#YellowLivesMatter
Just let the gods of depreciation take their toll. 60-70k in 5 years.
Just buy it for $19k in 12 years
that is truly the best way to do it if you can fix the car yourself
Model 3 when?
Exhaust note is so much better sounding than previous generation. 👍
OMG that thing is insanely beautiful.
That's a wicked glare coming off that dash.
*Absolutely* want to see you do a review of the Panamera Sport Turismo, if that's at all possible!
you were in canada but the car has euro plates ?!
in theory when you drive this car, could you just punch it at say 1500rpm and pull pretty hard? this thing seems like it would be a dream car for a Vegas trip. Probably could cruise at 120 all day.
great video as always. Could you start using a felt pad or similar non reflective mat to put on dash under the camera to get rid of reflections? Some cars are very hard to see out of through the reflection. Thank you
I didn't get the reason for why he choose the long wheel base.. anyone ?
Hope you enjoyed your trip to Van Isl. beautiful place.
You can't get the Sport Turismo with the hybrid system in North America, no.
But you can get that combination it in Europe
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... yeah you can, just not in the executive model
www.porsche.com/usa/models/panamera/
I was wondering so I checked. The calipers and rotors play no role in regenerative braking. When you push the brake the electric motors switch to reverse and slow the car down while generating electricity. The reason the brakes feel more natural when you stop harder is because the conventional brakes are doing more work.
Anyone know what road this is? I'm visiting close by and I want to hit this road up!
Spencer Guo I believe this is the road that goes from port renfrew to cowichan so drive out to sooke keep driving to port renfrew and then take the road to cowichan.
please do an f50 video
Super fast limo for super rich people. No business for us peasants.
even if I'm rich I'm not going to waste that shitload of money
the car is going to depreciate and once the warranty is gone then it will be worth absolutely nothing. it will be bought by 3 types of people: people who buy it simply as a status symbol and flashy luxury item (f.e. in asia)
people in germany who buy it to save (evade) taxes by registering it as a company car. and finally people who buy it for both of these reasons.
turns out there are a enough of these shits in the world, porsche can make lots of money with these. any clever or rational human being would never just throw away 50 grand to have a flashy luxury item. that money could help lots of people in need so it takes a lot of giving a shit about everyone else to buy it. 50 grand is a really low estimate. most of the buyers will drive it for 1-2 years only and then sell it, in that short period alone they will probably lose more than 50k$ on it.
You care about losing money? You got no business here.
there's a difference between investing money and basically throwing money in the garbage. my point was you don't just have to be rich to buy this car, you also have to be arrogant and give a shit about everyone else (because 50k can be invested or donated). and people in germany will buy it to "save" (evade) taxes. 90%+ of these cars are going to be registered as company cars in germany. I know there are products exclusively for people who live a completely different life, every billionaire has a bomb bunker. but they probably drive rolls royces. this is something inbetween, a high horse for the asshole CEO whose employees struggle to pay their bills.
Again, it's all about being super fast and super luxurious at the same time. This car is for those who appreciate those 2 attributes. If you are not keen on that type of car, you don't really even bother comment on it. Just buy something else.
Inner Hammer haha pretty much!
Hey guys, love your videos.
Just a short tip: Place a polarizing filter on the front-facing camera and you will remove most of the reflections of the speaker/dashboard :)
Hey Matt you obviously filmed this video today and did all the editing then uploaded it this morning so do you want to hang out with some fans in Victoria since you must still be on the island.
apparently it can do it in 2.9-3.0 seconds, however the M5 does it in 2.8, but I do know that the 7 series is more of a competitor than the 5 series to this
Excellent threading of information, analysis and style of delivery..... impressive.
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Ah gotta pick and choose you're roads in BC, some real gems out in some of the mountain passes but lots of the back-roads go to hell quick.
Wow. The next gen Cayenne Turbo S is going to be a beast.
How tall are you?
So much tech and mechanical engineering, imagine how many computers this car has to make it work. You wouldn't want to have this car after a lease without service warranty.