6mm ARC is a really awesome cartridge. I like it even better in a bolt gun than a gas gun. Being able to load it to 62k PSI gives it some extra azz to get even farther.
I have yet to build a bolty-boi 6ARC for myself…but I’m gonna next year! I can see the major potential, even in a 20-22” loaded to the max. Whiz-bang!!!
@@Juliang61 I'm interested in picking up a Howa mini action and seeing what kind of backpack-bolt gun I can put together. Sort of like those fellows over at JTAC are doing with their Elf Owl, etc. Major cool.
Yes! 6 ARC is fun and versatile. Love the fact that i dont loose my sight picture on target. Ammo availability is getting better. "Black hills" & "HSM". The 6 arc is a better .243!
So far I’ve had the most consistent velocity and accuracy with Shooters World Match and CFE223. However, I recently started testing Accurate 2520 and LeverRevolution; both look promising for similar results. My favorite bullet..and most accurate by far is the Sierra Matchking 107. The Berger 105s and Nosler 107CCs also do pretty well. Hornady is hit or miss, et al.
I built a Grendel Hunter 22" stainless AR-15 that shoots the 103 gr ELD-x factory load into .6" at 100 yards. It absolutely blows up gallon jugs at 500-600 yards (I live in the desert so those ranges are common). I liked it so much I picked up a Howa Mini yesterday. Heading out Sunday to see what the bolt gun can do!
Headed to my local gs now to pick up the new ruger American gen 2 ranch in 6 arc. I too hopped on the 6 arc train during Covid. Did a 20” upper but scarce on ammo and so on. Same story. Like y’all have said, seems to be components and ammo now
I got the same rifle yesterday, I cant wait to try it out. I've already got an AR and a savage axis in 6 arc. I was happy to add this one as well. It's my favorite caliber for hunting here in Texas.
Love my 6ARC. Took a deer with it this season with the 80gr TTSX bullet, excellent performance. I just put my 26" target barrel on a savage action and it is so easy to load for. With varget, I am able to get 2750fps with 107gr SMK bullets with fantastic velocity SD's. What most people don't understand about the 6MAX is the case is not designed well for higher BC bullets and relies on temperature sensitive spherical powders to get their velocity claims. I am not saying it is a bad cartridge, but it will not compete well against the ARC for long range shooting.
I built my 6 arc not long after its launch. I too was disappointed in the ammo supply, Been buying every round I could get up until yesterday I reload my own and could not find brass anywhere. Seems starline fixed the problem. With no luck on any brass up until a few months ago, Recently I have been able to acquire 500 pieces of starline and finally was at bass pro yesterday and actually left a bag there in the store because they also had the 44 mag brass I have been looking for. Anyway, hopefully the ammo problem is sorted. I absolutely love my 6 arc gas gun. My next rifle will probably be a bolt gun chambered in it as well.
Lol..,I just picked up some Starline too! Been avoiding shooting the ARC much to conserve components. Problem solved now! It’s taking forever but I feel like it’s catching on.
I would bet on it. The 6.5Gren is a fine cartridge..but the ARC gives a little bit more edge down range over longer distances. The 108ELD factory stuff from Hornady is 😚
Love my arc but then again im loading my own for this so no worries on ammo supply plus i cheat in being an otr trucker so can usually find ammo if i wanna buy it.
Same here; I’ve loaded from the beginning. I bought about 2.5k brass as soon as it came out from Hornady and started rolling them up. Been adding a few hundred a year since then
You should check out the 6mm MAX, it’s the 6mm ARC that’s dimensionally optimized for gas guns. Uses the straight walled .350 LEGEND as the parent case - which not only means you can use the good ol’ fashion 5.56 bolts (instead of the thin-walled 6.5 Grendel bolts with compromised durability), the straight wall dimensions also means it’s easier to design a new magazine around it. The only disadvantage I’ve seen (at least on paper) is that it’s SLIGHTLY worse than the 6 ARC at extreme distances. We’re talking MINUSCULE differences. The other disadvantage is that it’s technically not out yet lol Some might say it’s not a big deal, but I believe that the 6 MAX solves the largest issue of the 6 ARC which is the questionable durability of 6.5 Grendel bolts as you start approaching those higher (in this case not so high) round counts.
I keep hearing about it; and I’m a little intrigued. Ammo and components will probably be years in the making though. Personally, I’ve got about 4k rounds of 6ARC through one of my main burners and I haven’t seen an issue with the bolt yet. Frankly; I’ve never seen one except in either 556 or 224v..and it was sheared extractors. In about 24 years of being an AR fanatic and runner, those are the only two rifles I’ve personally had a bolt issue with. Mileage may vary for some; but largely I think the new wildcats like the Max are solutions where there isn’t a problem.
The more I shoot it the more I’m on board with using it as an all-arounder. Battle rifle/DMR, etc. It has the punch to be highly effective up close, and more than enough juice for the long range hole punching!
the issue with the 220 russian and its derivatives (7.62x39, 5.45x39, 6.5 grendel, 6mm ARC) is the case head diameter leaves an almost paper thin ring of support on AR-15 type weapons. some smart guys, including the proprietor of Sons Of Liberty have created a new cartridge they are calling the 6mm Max based on the 350 Legend case. It keeps the pressures reasonable, the case capacity high, and allows much more bolt ring thickness to enhance durability. should give it a look before investing in 6mm Arc. Also i'd argue that 6.5 Grendel is better than 6mm ARC for the vast majority of people anyhow, especially in the 16-20" barrel range.
Personally, I'll pass on any new wildcats until an ammo manufacturer of real substance starts putting out components/ammo. I get the theory behind the 6Max, and I'd like to play with one. But the 6ARC does just about everything you'd ever want an AR cartridge to do, and beats the Grendel past 600 yards handily...unless you want to lumber around with a 24" barrel for the Gren. I've shot both a lot, and while I do have a soft spot for the Grendel, i'd take the 6ARC over anything else any day. Now in a bolt gun......hmmmm.
A have a ballistic advantage 18" ar upper on a build and I love it. Just bought a vortex strike eagle 3to 18 . Haven't got a cantilever mount for it yet. Do you have any suggestions? I also just got a luth-ar mba3 stock
got to shoot a 6arc myself and i was suprised about the recoil, everyone says how light it is and its like a 223 recoil. well in my experience nope its definitly harder than 223 but yes its way lighter recoil than 308. it was a cmmg 16" upper with a birdcage muzzle device si dont know if that matters vs a 18" w a muzzle break. i only got to shoot paper with it so do not know about how hard it hits real targets just have to take everyones word for it i guess. also only shot at 100 yds so also have to take word that its great at long ranges
Yeah it's not quite as light as a 223, but it is slightly lighter than the 6.5Gren in my opinion. I've shot this cartridge in both 105 Bergers and 107SMKs out to 850 and 1250 at steel, and it'll ring it for sure. Even in a stiff 17mph wind, it was relatively easy to get on target at 1250. Noise feedback at that distance was harder to get than at 850, but it'll swing a small plate easy enough to spot most of the time beyond 600yds. I've been running the Aero V6(?) muzzles devices and they tend to tame just about anything down.
It does have some appeal; but I feel like it doesn’t do much that the 224v doesn’t already offer. I mean, I’m still gonna build one and test it anyways..for science. 😆
I’ve been shooting it in wildcat form for a little while (see 22 DPC). 22 ARC is what the 224v was promised to be. The case capacity is better and you can push an 85gr berger to 2750 without much trouble. I think my favorite all around is the 69gr Sierra match king. 3000-3100fps without pressure signs is fun.
I have a 6.5 grendel bolt action with removable barrel and need a lighter carbon barrel so i am thinking of maybe trying a 6 arc in it. I learned alot in the military but did most of my learning when i started reloading and eventually handloading when i became a civilian. my only concern is how it will perform with terminal ballistics compared to 6.5 Grendel.
The 6.5 Grendel is fine cartridge to be sure; and I've enjoyed it over the years. I'd say up close, say within 200 meters or so, the Grendel is going to have a bit more 'thump' than the ARC; but the deer I've shot with the 6mm ARC have not complained, and tasted just as good! 😆It's so darn easy to be accurate with the ARC, and the 108 Berger Hunters, along with the 95 Berger Classics both fold up a deer like a taco. A delicious venison taco!
Pretty sure 6mm max will all but relegate 6arc to bolt actions. Same drop drift and handles almost all the projectiles of 6mm arc but with the 5.56/2.23 bolt face so the bolt reliability is eliminated.
I doubt it…the numbers don’t add up and it seems like a solution where there isn’t a problem. I’ve run thousands of rounds of 6ARC and Grendel and haven’t ever personally experienced the mythical bolt problems. Not saying it doesn’t happen; but I’ve seen it on a 556 more than I’ve ever seen it on the 6.5Gren bolt. Bad bolts are bad bolts. At some point folks are gonna get cartridge fatigue with everyone trying to recreate, or beat, what’s already established as a great cartridge for the AR platform. We’ll see how it works out; but I know I won’t be wasting the energy changing my ARCs to a slower cartridge without some compelling evidence of a major benefit. Hornady knows the game better than most - 6ARC is here to stay in my prediction.
@@DP-hn6rl Yeah, it's hard to keep up chasing all the niche/wildcat cartridges...at the end of the day I feel like most of us just want the same thing: enhanced cartridges, reliability, serviceability and access to more ammo, lol! From a cursory glance at the 6Max it looks like it's geared more towards lighter bullets - fixated on higher bolt-reliability(theoretically). The concept is sound, but loses some appeal if your into the higher grain weight stuff that the 6ARC is good at propelling.
Yeah, they certainly seemed to leave it hanging in the wind after it’s initial popularity. My theory is that they’ve focused on the military contract side of things with it, and haven’t really kept up with the civilian demand. Just a theory though, unsubstantiated.
@@calebwhiteknives already saami spec'd and plus what do u think 6 arc started as? 😂 Idk if u even realize what's going on with that cartridge its surely going to molly wop 6 arc. The simple fact 6 arc DOESN'T use a 5.56 bolt already puts it at a huge disadvantage
@@noluckpureskill9985 That could definitely hurt the 6ARCs chances of staying around; especially if other manufacturers get on board and start cranking out ammo. until then though, the ARC ain't going anywhere.
What's the brass life like on 6max? Wondering if the rebated rim has the same troubles as something like the 22 nosler which is known for shredding brass.
@@Gahmaz0z I haven't shot one personally and I'll admit I only know about it bc sons of liberty gun works rifle called the broadsword is chambered in it. If I'm not mistaken they partnered with the creator of the cartridge to release it to the public through their drop of rifles... 6max brass is 350 legend which is a straight walled 5.56 meaning. The simple fact the 6max uses a 5.56 bolt immediately gives it a longevity leg up on 6 arc and 6.5 grendel or even 224 Valkyrie they all need a bigger bolt face pocket meaning the walls get thin as hell and break alot it's known. I've also heard but don't know if it's true 6 arc is hit or miss when suppressed in gas guns a problem their not seeing with 6max. The dude said they're running the same projectiles near the same speed and power as an arc
I don’t think the Grendel is ever gonna happen the way everyone wants it to happen. Great little cartridge, but after over a decade it just doesn’t seem to have legs. 🤔
@@calebwhiteknives there's quite a few barrel manufacturers, mag manufacturers, and now PSA/AAC is making brass cased ammo for 70c a round. Id say it's on a resurgence
@@tedarcher9120 ... When comparing a 24" arc to a 12" Grendel maybe😂 108gr eld match ARC compared to 130gr Grendel, arc has 100 more fps(2350 vs 2450) and worse BC(.554 vs .536) Grendel has nearly 300 more ft/lb of energy at the muzzle (1598 vs 1318) and that continues to become a larger gap because of the better BC. What are you smoking bud? Both are max loads of Hornady's own load data (they created 6 arc) and both used 18" barrels
The six arc is a piece of crap., There are so many other cartridges that do what it can do so much better. Way too slow to be affected., Yes you can hit stuff but it barely makes MOA..
6 ARC has become my favorite cartridge for hunting here in Texas. I love it!
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6mm ARC is a really awesome cartridge. I like it even better in a bolt gun than a gas gun. Being able to load it to 62k PSI gives it some extra azz to get even farther.
I have yet to build a bolty-boi 6ARC for myself…but I’m gonna next year! I can see the major potential, even in a 20-22” loaded to the max. Whiz-bang!!!
I have one in bolt also. Agreed with the extra reloading power!!
@@Juliang61 I'm interested in picking up a Howa mini action and seeing what kind of backpack-bolt gun I can put together. Sort of like those fellows over at JTAC are doing with their Elf Owl, etc. Major cool.
I just got the new gen 2 Ruger ranch in 6 arc. I'm dying to try it out.
Yes! 6 ARC is fun and versatile. Love the fact that i dont loose my sight picture on target. Ammo availability is getting better. "Black hills" & "HSM". The 6 arc is a better .243!
Excellent presentation. Very informative. Thank you! 😜👍🇺🇸
Glad you liked it! Thank you!
You made me want to buy more guns with videos like this one.
Lol…the struggle is real. 😝
Great video! It sounds like you’ve tried a good number of powders. What would you say are your favorites/best performers for this cartridge?
So far I’ve had the most consistent velocity and accuracy with Shooters World Match and CFE223. However, I recently started testing Accurate 2520 and LeverRevolution; both look promising for similar results. My favorite bullet..and most accurate by far is the Sierra Matchking 107. The Berger 105s and Nosler 107CCs also do pretty well. Hornady is hit or miss, et al.
I built a Grendel Hunter 22" stainless AR-15 that shoots the 103 gr ELD-x factory load into .6" at 100 yards. It absolutely blows up gallon jugs at 500-600 yards (I live in the desert so those ranges are common). I liked it so much I picked up a Howa Mini yesterday. Heading out Sunday to see what the bolt gun can do!
How did the Howa mini perform for you?
@@theomnipresent1 I didn't get out on Sunday. I'll let you know this weekend.
I have one of those..and it shoots 95gr SSTs .62"....it's that Liberty barrel, real accurate 👌
Ive got 2 rifles chambered in 6arc. 20" AR and a Savage 110 predator 18" bolt gun. Love them both
Wouldn’t give them up for anything!
Headed to my local gs now to pick up the new ruger American gen 2 ranch in 6 arc. I too hopped on the 6 arc train during Covid. Did a 20” upper but scarce on ammo and so on. Same story. Like y’all have said, seems to be components and ammo now
I got the same rifle yesterday, I cant wait to try it out. I've already got an AR and a savage axis in 6 arc. I was happy to add this one as well. It's my favorite caliber for hunting here in Texas.
Love my 6ARC. Took a deer with it this season with the 80gr TTSX bullet, excellent performance. I just put my 26" target barrel on a savage action and it is so easy to load for. With varget, I am able to get 2750fps with 107gr SMK bullets with fantastic velocity SD's. What most people don't understand about the 6MAX is the case is not designed well for higher BC bullets and relies on temperature sensitive spherical powders to get their velocity claims. I am not saying it is a bad cartridge, but it will not compete well against the ARC for long range shooting.
Truth. It’s hard to get the Max-apologists to acknowledge that anything heavier than 75 grains isn’t gonna work well. 😆
I built my 6 arc not long after its launch. I too was disappointed in the ammo supply, Been buying every round I could get up until yesterday I reload my own and could not find brass anywhere. Seems starline fixed the problem. With no luck on any brass up until a few months ago, Recently I have been able to acquire 500 pieces of starline and finally was at bass pro yesterday and actually left a bag there in the store because they also had the 44 mag brass I have been looking for. Anyway, hopefully the ammo problem is sorted. I absolutely love my 6 arc gas gun. My next rifle will probably be a bolt gun chambered in it as well.
Lol..,I just picked up some Starline too! Been avoiding shooting the ARC much to conserve components. Problem solved now! It’s taking forever but I feel like it’s catching on.
I'm building a 6mm ARC in ar15 platform right now. I've been running the 6.5 grendel and hope the ARC doesn't let me down
I would bet on it. The 6.5Gren is a fine cartridge..but the ARC gives a little bit more edge down range over longer distances. The 108ELD factory stuff from Hornady is 😚
Love my arc but then again im loading my own for this so no worries on ammo supply plus i cheat in being an otr trucker so can usually find ammo if i wanna buy it.
Same here; I’ve loaded from the beginning. I bought about 2.5k brass as soon as it came out from Hornady and started rolling them up. Been adding a few hundred a year since then
You should check out the 6mm MAX, it’s the 6mm ARC that’s dimensionally optimized for gas guns. Uses the straight walled .350 LEGEND as the parent case - which not only means you can use the good ol’ fashion 5.56 bolts (instead of the thin-walled 6.5 Grendel bolts with compromised durability), the straight wall dimensions also means it’s easier to design a new magazine around it.
The only disadvantage I’ve seen (at least on paper) is that it’s SLIGHTLY worse than the 6 ARC at extreme distances. We’re talking MINUSCULE differences. The other disadvantage is that it’s technically not out yet lol
Some might say it’s not a big deal, but I believe that the 6 MAX solves the largest issue of the 6 ARC which is the questionable durability of 6.5 Grendel bolts as you start approaching those higher (in this case not so high) round counts.
I keep hearing about it; and I’m a little intrigued. Ammo and components will probably be years in the making though. Personally, I’ve got about 4k rounds of 6ARC through one of my main burners and I haven’t seen an issue with the bolt yet. Frankly; I’ve never seen one except in either 556 or 224v..and it was sheared extractors. In about 24 years of being an AR fanatic and runner, those are the only two rifles I’ve personally had a bolt issue with.
Mileage may vary for some; but largely I think the new wildcats like the Max are solutions where there isn’t a problem.
I'm looking into the 6mm ARC as an alternative to a battle rifle. Thinking about doing a resto mod M16a1 build in 6mm ARC.
The more I shoot it the more I’m on board with using it as an all-arounder. Battle rifle/DMR, etc. It has the punch to be highly effective up close, and more than enough juice for the long range hole punching!
Just bought 6arc upper. Just curious what is everyone using for their scope? Brand, power.
I’ve got one with a US Optics TS8x, and my primary has a Vortex PST 2-10.
Good stuff. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
the issue with the 220 russian and its derivatives (7.62x39, 5.45x39, 6.5 grendel, 6mm ARC) is the case head diameter leaves an almost paper thin ring of support on AR-15 type weapons. some smart guys, including the proprietor of Sons Of Liberty have created a new cartridge they are calling the 6mm Max based on the 350 Legend case. It keeps the pressures reasonable, the case capacity high, and allows much more bolt ring thickness to enhance durability. should give it a look before investing in 6mm Arc.
Also i'd argue that 6.5 Grendel is better than 6mm ARC for the vast majority of people anyhow, especially in the 16-20" barrel range.
Personally, I'll pass on any new wildcats until an ammo manufacturer of real substance starts putting out components/ammo. I get the theory behind the 6Max, and I'd like to play with one. But the 6ARC does just about everything you'd ever want an AR cartridge to do, and beats the Grendel past 600 yards handily...unless you want to lumber around with a 24" barrel for the Gren. I've shot both a lot, and while I do have a soft spot for the Grendel, i'd take the 6ARC over anything else any day. Now in a bolt gun......hmmmm.
A have a ballistic advantage 18" ar upper on a build and I love it. Just bought a vortex strike eagle 3to 18 . Haven't got a cantilever mount for it yet. Do you have any suggestions? I also just got a luth-ar mba3 stock
I’m partial to Warne, and Aero mounts. The Aero ones are a bit lighter. Leupold also makes a pretty sturdy mount with some solid bolts.
got to shoot a 6arc myself and i was suprised about the recoil, everyone says how light it is and its like a 223 recoil. well in my experience nope its definitly harder than 223 but yes its way lighter recoil than 308. it was a cmmg 16" upper with a birdcage muzzle device si dont know if that matters vs a 18" w a muzzle break. i only got to shoot paper with it so do not know about how hard it hits real targets just have to take everyones word for it i guess. also only shot at 100 yds so also have to take word that its great at long ranges
Yeah it's not quite as light as a 223, but it is slightly lighter than the 6.5Gren in my opinion. I've shot this cartridge in both 105 Bergers and 107SMKs out to 850 and 1250 at steel, and it'll ring it for sure. Even in a stiff 17mph wind, it was relatively easy to get on target at 1250. Noise feedback at that distance was harder to get than at 850, but it'll swing a small plate easy enough to spot most of the time beyond 600yds. I've been running the Aero V6(?) muzzles devices and they tend to tame just about anything down.
Have you seen Hornady's 2024 new products? That 22arc with the 62gr ELD-VT looks tantalizing.
It does have some appeal; but I feel like it doesn’t do much that the 224v doesn’t already offer. I mean, I’m still gonna build one and test it anyways..for science. 😆
I’ve been shooting it in wildcat form for a little while (see 22 DPC). 22 ARC is what the 224v was promised to be. The case capacity is better and you can push an 85gr berger to 2750 without much trouble. I think my favorite all around is the 69gr Sierra match king. 3000-3100fps without pressure signs is fun.
Moose are a lot bigger than Elk, especially here in Alaska
I love the video, but the music is distracting. I just want to here you and the subject your talking about.
@@michaelcervantez3570 heard and understood. Thank you for the constructive feedback 🙏🏻
I have a 6.5 grendel bolt action with removable barrel and need a lighter carbon barrel so i am thinking of maybe trying a 6 arc in it. I learned alot in the military but did most of my learning when i started reloading and eventually handloading when i became a civilian. my only concern is how it will perform with terminal ballistics compared to 6.5 Grendel.
The 6.5 Grendel is fine cartridge to be sure; and I've enjoyed it over the years. I'd say up close, say within 200 meters or so, the Grendel is going to have a bit more 'thump' than the ARC; but the deer I've shot with the 6mm ARC have not complained, and tasted just as good! 😆It's so darn easy to be accurate with the ARC, and the 108 Berger Hunters, along with the 95 Berger Classics both fold up a deer like a taco. A delicious venison taco!
Pretty sure 6mm max will all but relegate 6arc to bolt actions. Same drop drift and handles almost all the projectiles of 6mm arc but with the 5.56/2.23 bolt face so the bolt reliability is eliminated.
I doubt it…the numbers don’t add up and it seems like a solution where there isn’t a problem. I’ve run thousands of rounds of 6ARC and Grendel and haven’t ever personally experienced the mythical bolt problems. Not saying it doesn’t happen; but I’ve seen it on a 556 more than I’ve ever seen it on the 6.5Gren bolt. Bad bolts are bad bolts. At some point folks are gonna get cartridge fatigue with everyone trying to recreate, or beat, what’s already established as a great cartridge for the AR platform. We’ll see how it works out; but I know I won’t be wasting the energy changing my ARCs to a slower cartridge without some compelling evidence of a major benefit. Hornady knows the game better than most - 6ARC is here to stay in my prediction.
@@calebwhiteknives If someone is already running 6ARC, I agree that it makes no real sense to move to max, reducing your projectile and load options.
@@DP-hn6rl Yeah, it's hard to keep up chasing all the niche/wildcat cartridges...at the end of the day I feel like most of us just want the same thing: enhanced cartridges, reliability, serviceability and access to more ammo, lol! From a cursory glance at the 6Max it looks like it's geared more towards lighter bullets - fixated on higher bolt-reliability(theoretically). The concept is sound, but loses some appeal if your into the higher grain weight stuff that the 6ARC is good at propelling.
And after 5 years, you can finally find ammo and brass. Hornady has been a huge disappointment on this cartridge.
Yeah, they certainly seemed to leave it hanging in the wind after it’s initial popularity. My theory is that they’ve focused on the military contract side of things with it, and haven’t really kept up with the civilian demand. Just a theory though, unsubstantiated.
I agree with your theory. In the mean time I have 400 rounds loaded from converted 6.5 Grendel brass. Oh well it was a lot of case trimming LOL
@@elwhastrummer 😆about the same here..chopped up a bunch of Grendel and converted!
I think being introduced during covid hurt it all around. It's gaining more ground now.
6mm max over 6mm arc any day of the week and twice on Sundays...
Wildcats have their advantages; but it’s an even bigger stretch finding ammo and components for the average user.
@@calebwhiteknives already saami spec'd and plus what do u think 6 arc started as? 😂 Idk if u even realize what's going on with that cartridge its surely going to molly wop 6 arc. The simple fact 6 arc DOESN'T use a 5.56 bolt already puts it at a huge disadvantage
@@noluckpureskill9985 That could definitely hurt the 6ARCs chances of staying around; especially if other manufacturers get on board and start cranking out ammo. until then though, the ARC ain't going anywhere.
What's the brass life like on 6max? Wondering if the rebated rim has the same troubles as something like the 22 nosler which is known for shredding brass.
@@Gahmaz0z I haven't shot one personally and I'll admit I only know about it bc sons of liberty gun works rifle called the broadsword is chambered in it. If I'm not mistaken they partnered with the creator of the cartridge to release it to the public through their drop of rifles... 6max brass is 350 legend which is a straight walled 5.56 meaning. The simple fact the 6max uses a 5.56 bolt immediately gives it a longevity leg up on 6 arc and 6.5 grendel or even 224 Valkyrie they all need a bigger bolt face pocket meaning the walls get thin as hell and break alot it's known. I've also heard but don't know if it's true 6 arc is hit or miss when suppressed in gas guns a problem their not seeing with 6max. The dude said they're running the same projectiles near the same speed and power as an arc
Grendel is still better. Short barrel performance, holds supersonic to essentially the same range, and holds more energy past 1000 yards
I don’t think the Grendel is ever gonna happen the way everyone wants it to happen. Great little cartridge, but after over a decade it just doesn’t seem to have legs. 🤔
6 arc has more energy from the muzzle till the end. Grendel has more energy past 1000 only if you shoot 140+ grain
@@calebwhiteknives there's quite a few barrel manufacturers, mag manufacturers, and now PSA/AAC is making brass cased ammo for 70c a round. Id say it's on a resurgence
@@tedarcher9120 ... When comparing a 24" arc to a 12" Grendel maybe😂 108gr eld match ARC compared to 130gr Grendel, arc has 100 more fps(2350 vs 2450) and worse BC(.554 vs .536) Grendel has nearly 300 more ft/lb of energy at the muzzle (1598 vs 1318) and that continues to become a larger gap because of the better BC. What are you smoking bud? Both are max loads of Hornady's own load data (they created 6 arc) and both used 18" barrels
@@youreright7534 wouldn’t be a bad thing! It’s got a lot of ‘thump’ for a small package. Great on deer and hogs, etc.
The six arc is a piece of crap., There are so many other cartridges that do what it can do so much better. Way too slow to be affected., Yes you can hit stuff but it barely makes MOA..
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