@@Shredius I can explain Chess changing as it went to European courts-- afterall, wtf is an Elephant to a medieval Scotsman? I can even explain early Disney bastardizing European folk tales into milquetoast morality tales because them old fairytales were pretty grimdark. But this modern stuff? Making games for an imaginary customer base is... for who? Who are these games for?
They were so smug when they thought they could ruin our stuff forever, and now that they see the conséquences of their actions, they whimper like the cowards that they are !
Daddy BlackRock is running out of money, and gamers were the largest holdout of this anti-culture cancer. Never forget BlackRock invested in every kind of media, and Larry Fink specifically got angry that games were costing him huge piles of cash and not "converting" more gamers to "their" side.
The customer is the most powerful being in existence. The customer is the only one that can fire the CEO of a company. The customer is the only one who decides whether a company lives or dies. The company needs us, but we do not need the company. It's time for companies to be reminded of that fact.
You are dead wrong. Even if the game sells ZERO copies the studio is till bailed out by blackrock. As larry Fink said, its not about profit, its about the message. They don't care about your wallet
@@2138Dude I see. Another company will simply recoup their losses just to spread "The Message" And when the Company that bailed them out has realized this brand no longer has any capability to spread "The Message" Where will this broken used rag of a company go? get sold or dissolved. Only an extremist would go so far as sacrificing themselves for "The message", the coherent who just went with the flow will not. And where does the coherent go to? Back to me. The Customer.
I completely agree with this statement "Why should wokeists make video games anymore". It seems entirely pointless and they should stop and never try it again.
"We deserve YOUR money! Give us YOUR money even though we refuse to give you what you want! You must lower your standards and buy our horrible products!"
@@SchemingGoldberg"Damn, you guys must really hate making money, now you don't get even more money. Now get back to drinking those cups of piss"! Is what I have to say to them
Enjoy waiting till Armageddon. Woke is just the new face of the worst part of human nature, narcissism. "I am perfect, so I must make others accept my perfection."
It will end when the ESG money finally runs out. Until then there will always be developers who give into the temptation of easy investment money even at the risk of angering their customers.
For real dude, even the more "successful" games released during this period like baulders gate 3 are going to age very, very poorly because of the woke political nonsense, which funny story about that game, none of that was present in the alpha and beta builds of the game, they added that in last minute because the studio behind the game, wanted to use it to launch them into triple A status. So effectively, they sacrificed the future longevity and replayability of their own product, to commit suicide by becoming a triple A company.
Still need to purge the money men. The woke nonsense is only a part of the problem that have been plaguing AAA games. It won't stop the over moneytization and crap half finished releases of games.
Watching how most devs behave on social media these days I have exactly 0 fucks to give about them losing their jobs, in fact I am bouncing around like a gremlin and screeching with joy for each round of layoffs I hear about at this point. They will. -Attack customers who actually pay for what they make. -Attack other developers who speak out whatsoever. -Work with people who have lied so severely about others that it ended in people taking their own lives. -Celebrate vandalizing of work that is not theirs or that of the person vandalizing it. -Ignore customers that pay for what they make. -Listen to terminally online people who never have and never will actually pay for anything they make. -Launch harassment campaigns against people who don't fall in line. -Attempt to extort companies to get their way. They made their bed now they can lie in it and choke on the bile they spew.
Sounds like someone who has seen this from inside, first hand, up close, smelling the burning flesh, hearing the sizzle pop of charring fat rendering oil to flare up the flames. Watched it in another industry. Ugly.
Too many HR managers, PR managers and diversity consultants, with enormous CEO paychecks blow game budgets out of proportions and force for MTX in every game to justify the budget.
Turns out there's no sustainable income to be found in ruining what your customers love. Maybe _more_ verbal abuse will finally convince those pesky bigots to fork over their wallets. 🤡
Sustainable income is not why they do it. There are much darker reasons for it. They were kind of successful though. People never stopped buying games. Ironically, the industry is still booming compared to what it was before they went after their customers.
@@bmsuperstar1 Not the entire industry, at all. There is a handful of massively profitable IPs carrying the entire _triple A_ segment of the industry at this point. Combine that with the amount of money the major publishers must dump into developing a single title... The string of flops that did not bring in substantial returns over the past couple years are not the hallmarks of a "booming" industry of which you speak. One problem is the anti-consumer/anti-gamer ideologies at play. The other big problem is the fact that every major publisher, much less every developer, can *not* have a massive persistent live-service micro-transaction cash cow that generates massive wealth indefinitely. There is only room for a handful of such titles in the world. Because the gamers footing the bill, don't have effing infinite wealth, much less infinite time. There are only so many wales in the world, and they can only sink their time and enthusiasm into so many titles. So the more these publishers pursue this dream of consumers owning nothing and everything being live service, the deeper into the red most of them will end up. If we have to pay weekly to unlock our doors and roll down our windows, we aren't going to be able to afford to buy 10 billion AK skins which get deactivated in 10 months, in 500 different tittles, lol...
In the 80s and 90s games where made by people that loved games and played games. Now its college grads who want to teach us plebs how silly we are and wrong about everything. Soon those days will return as long as we are not stopped from buying them.
Even the early to mid 2000s games are made by people who loved the hobby. I'm going to put it this way, despite being dated visually and mechanically, a game like dragon age origins is going to outlive and be fondly remembered compared to more "modern hits" like baulders gate 3, a game in which that it could have attained similar status as DAO but is sacrificed on the alter of wokeness and LGBT representation. Mark my words, that game is going to be getting torn apart in a few years now that we are starting to get extensive backlash against the left in gaming
@@delta2372 It's kinda sad when the localisation and censorship is so bad these days, that even with hd2d remakes you're still better off with the original. 😵💫
I would argue it didn't really become a majority leftist/woke/elitist/insert-term-here until around 2014-15. These people certainly had a foothold before then, but they hadn't obtained the kind of control they've had until now. Unfortunately, GamerGate basically handed the industry to these outsiders. I can only hope current events are starting to reverse that. I should also note that it has nothing to do with these people being college grads, it has to do with what they graduated in. If they had gotten degrees in Computer Science, Graphic Design, History, or any number of other industry-related fields, this wouldn't be a problem. It's that they got their degrees in Women's Studies, Psychology, and Communications, with no real interactions with people with genuine intelligence, regardless of education.
@@delta2372On one hand that game really is a woke haven, but on the other hand at least the devs were self aware enough that a player would want to end every other character. So if you want you can go full "eraser" mode on their characters in a glorious big ball of fire.
@@SammEater from my experience with the game, the first two arcs are woke but it's an eye rolling "yeah yeah it's modern gaming just let me play the game" sort of way, the third arc though? how the fuck is there anyone still inhabiting this world when majority of the population is gay?
Exactly, a true artist would never say this, the love of the craft is always motivation enough. These people just want to make money but can't be bothered to do what it takes to make it.
One thing i noticed, someone made a video showing the Twitter profiles of a lot of people from Bungie that were fired, and every single one of them were activists with flags and pronouns in their bios
Developers have the best and the easiest tools they ever had and yet their games are more expensive, bloated and poorly made than ever. It really gets the nogging jogging why there are so many layoffs...
There's no justification for any game to be triple digit GBs big, people need to relearn how to optimize shit because goddamn, I don't have a whole storage full of SSDs for all of this shit.
Bingo agree competency crisis as even with all the tools today, they dont know how to use them or what to create, no longer need to make the cartriges and yeat they are more expensive ever, as they put more and more in graffic and less, also now you prize people out of the market with more and more increasing, prices, both in hardware and more demand for more advance hardware, so at the end, you are increasing prices and excluding costumers, and instead of pointing to what costumers want or improving more anime tities, or better gameplay, or even functioning games, so it will go under, as the people that know how to produce are retiring, is done
@@Jokoko2828 Optimisation, good. Sadly its the vocal minority of people wanting super, ultra, wopper 24k UHH with 200 bit colour. Its the graphics that bloat most programs so much. The people who feel the need to game on what would have been a higher end full on dual socket server, from 10-15 years ago, 1000+Kwh PSUs FFS. With settings that a Human cannot see as they are too high. 120-240 htz monitors. When we squishy meatbags top out at the 60-75hz range for vison.
No kidding. The price of games are getting expensive not because it costs more to make them, but because of how they're spending their money. Hell, just take a look at that new Star Wars game. How much do you think they SPENT on making the model MORE UGLY? It would have been cheaper to make less changes to the base model. Probably quite a bit if they're hiring consultancy groups as part of that process.
You can tell they literally don't know anything about what they are talking about when in the first paragraph alone they already said; "Destiny is a big deal" and "People are exited for the new dragon age game"
Yeah. Just when it looks like we might _finally_ be seeing the (prolonged) end of Kotaku this year, another ugly, venomous head of the hydra regrows to take its place.
To describe the games industry briefly: Everyone would be happy with a game where Samus spends 95% of it in her Zero Suit. Everyone would be happy with a game where Samus spends none of the game in her Zero Suit. No one would be happy with a game where the worlds ugliest rendition of Samus runs around in her Zero Suit. Stop making characters ugly for no reason.
@@SchemingGoldberg Right? Crazy how that works. Like Blue Archive makes 10-16m a month and it hardly has gameplay. These devs would be surprised what people will pay for when you just make attractive characters
@@edwardweaver6869Nah not a fan of gacha, I will just stick with old games until the current industry dies and normal games can have attractive female characters again.
Because they often clear a profit before the first copy sells courtesy of the government investing your failing pension into it as a propaganda mouthpiece.
Every god damned time I hear whining about how making games is hard and costly I look at some of the older games and people who made them and a quote from Iron Man comes to mind "Tony Stark was able to build it in a cave...". Problem is not the resources and money but the people, "where there is a will there is a way" after all.
I look at stuff like Kenshi, star sector or stardew Valley and laugh because one enthusiast with a full time job made a better game in the free time than a thousand proffesional developers
@@vonfaustien3957 O yeah, Kenshin is also what I had in mind. True graphics may not be the best but when it comes gamaplay it is faaar better than 90% what AAAs spewed out these last couple years
All anyone needs to look at from 2023 is Chained Echoes. A single guy made a JRPG by himself within 5-7 years using tools that honestly look like they came from some earlier form of a Microsoft gaming development kit.
It been happening for years. As GRE say. a healthy industry is not one where you get big publishers to buy other big one and combining into one dying company. Serve them right for chasing away their real customers for Investors. the bubble is bursting and i am all in for the gaming industry crash and layoff. the good one will rise from the ashes.
I saw a comment the other day: "Entrepreneurs dream of being bought out by the best." Had to stop and take a moment to really drink in the sheer myopic stupidity of it.
@@harbl99 Years ago, i forget the video. amidst the fallout 76 controversy. someone said something about that Bethesda is trying to make as much money as possible and as fast. so that someone might buy them out right. this why the industry is in the gutter bean counters who have no business ruining gaming and are parasites from another industry, they are the one who call the shots.
“someone said something about that Bethesda is trying to make as much money as possible and as fast.” Then they’d license out their IP and get more “New Vegas” style games released instead of waiting a decade to release a new one.
@@christophbeck1305 Not sure, saw it years ago. It was random youtuber. If he was 21 kiloton, i would have known. The guy got his signature voice and demeanor.
@@JathraDH Meeeeh, I don't know...seems like pretty probable with this gaming crash... Normies will bugger off to Fortnite, that next arena shooter, and League. And we'll be left alone to enjoy games like Shadows of Doubt.
@@hunn20004 That would not make gaming niche. You will still have millions and millions of people playing games. You aren't even considering the mobile market, for instance.
A few Years ago, a Reaction of a Dev Studio to Player feedback/Engagement with one of their game modes told me everything i needed to know. Game was F1 Codemasters. They had challenges, certain situations you had to successfully master. You could earn "Battle pass" points with it. 1 Patch 1 read: "As very few people engage with our challenges, we increased the Rewards for those and we hope players engage with it more and enjoy them" Why? Why force people to engage with something in your game they already dont like? Why spend budget on a Part of your game players dont like? Why not spend that budget on Bug Fixes? More Content for the Parts of the game People already like? This told me that Devs now rather want to force people to do what they want instead of giving the customers what they want.
A very similar issue is happening in Black Desert Online, where they made a massive change to their PvP Node War system, changes that made the system far inferior to the old system. The only reason its not 100% and only 99% bad? Rewards. The rewards are great, but all of the gameplay around those rewards is completly lacking. Its destroyed the PvP community, its destroyed most peoples will to play, its destroyed long-standing guilds that have been around since the beginning.
Was that a major issue for players in taking up those challenges? I get the point though. If it's fun and interesting people will do it regardless, usually, but there does need to be a proper payoff if it's that much of a challenge to complete it.
@@J.B.1982 Zhe Major issue was that Players mainly bought the game to play online, random lobbys and in leagues, or play the Single Player Career or My Team Mode. Challenges was basicly a waste of budget.
That "guy?" who wrote that article is so embarrassing with how little they/them understand how money works. Let them all fail and make games from the ashes. 🔥
Why even make games anymore? Ok then, don't. Modders, indie devs, or even solo devs will keep doing what they do and most gamers wont notice the difference for a lack of CoD 72 or whatever cash grab the publishers are trying to force down our necks.
And the thing is, those three groups of developers put their heart and soul into those games. (The successful ones anyway.) And it doesn't take as much for them to be as successful. The modders do it for free.
There was a time where I would have found this attitude of mine distasteful, but honestly, I'm with Arch - the growing demoralization of the demoralizers is..... exquisite
Not only that, they are making games they want gamers to want, not what gamers actually want and tried to shame gamers into changing their behaviors. It didn’t work.
Give 10 million dollars pick of the liter in your company for a game and I’ll give you not only a functioning game but a really good game. No HR overhead and no studio interference I’ll get it out in 2 years minimum but that’s rushed.
The vast majorly might be playing titles from 2000-2018 but from more modern titles you might see 1 maybe 2 titles being played a year. The average customers nowadays are just tired of modern gaming and are actively filtering out games they want to play more than before.
@@BladeMasterIcarus I think it's due more to people only having the time and money to play one or two games, since everything now has either daily challenges or a battlepass. They're being far more selective with their purchases, since the cost of the basic goods needed to live have gone way up in the last few years.
@@OutLanderUSN well for adults that statement is true but for teenagers and children playing older games is just objectively better experience. Since ya know they have more time on their hands.
We are actually in a media crash right now. Movies, t.v. shows, video games, books, comics and so on are so over saturated by bad products that its collapsing under its own weight. Hell the dustborn demo, which is free to download, has in the last month had 46 people play it.
The industry is full of people who simply show up to collect a pay check, while you have actual passionate, creative people who can't get a job...however, it might be for the best.
On one hand, kinda feel bad for the people losing jobs. On the other hand, winning the culture war is like making an omelet. The first step is to crack the eggs.
Why would you feel bad for them? They hate you. They actively try to destroy everything you love. You should show them no mercy, because they will show you none as well.
*"people" a quick glance at interviews with these sorts of developers, or what they've said on social media about their customers - tends to alleviate any misplaced sympathy I find.
Unions prevent the firing of ineffective and outright piss-poor employees. To fire an employee who outright refuses to do their job requires the union to agree with the decision, and since the union wants to keep receiving dues from that employee, they will never agree.
Also, as someone who once had to rely on an union, I both lost a promotion AND eventually the job. I also wasn't the only one - an entire GROUP of people relied on their union, and their union screwed them over (this is in an "union-friendly" state regulated environment, mind you). They're useless.
In the late 2000's I was at a hotel during a motorcycle ride somewhere in Nevada and the AFL-CIO Union president Trumka just happened to be there and just happened to strike up a conversation with me in the parking lot. He had no clue I actually knew who he was, thanks to Glen Beck who he had recently threatened since Beck had started exposing Soros. I asked him a simple question. If everyone involved in making a loaf of bread, from the farmer who grew the grain to the guy airing up the tires on the bread truck, was in a union how much would a loaf of bread cost? Oh the look that dude gave me would have crushed a lesser man but I just looked him in the eyes with a knowing grin and waited for a response that never came.😂 You keep being you Arch our Charon gatekeeper! Charon lore when?🤔
Sorry Arch but your wrong, they DO understand that if the company goes under their job goes with it. I have a friend who said he knows that and that he would rather his union destroy the company and he lose his job then take even 1 penny of a pay cut. Or allow them to lay off a single employee. They understand Arch, they are just to selfish and EVIL to care. Yes, i called my friend evil, and he is, about this ONE thing. people can be good or evil in many ways. I this just means i would never hire him for anything ever.
@@BigGainer98 To be fair he is against every other stupid or evil thing going on in society. I can tolerate his love of Unions... besides I'm just waiting for that moment i get to say "I told you so" when his union fucks him over... it's only a matter of time. *troll face*
I'm sorry... the WHAT of the game is no longer a good reason? These people keep showing sign after sign after sign they not only hate games, but hate gamers. Show me where to they even remotely SLIGHTLY like or enjoy games?
5:52 I've been saying this for a long time. The money people are often the source of pretty terrible mandates for creatives, But they've always been like this, they havent changed, and they have been there since the 90s. What has changed is the developers on the ground, significantly so.
The biggest thing that changed was Blackrock handing out E.S.G. score money like it's candy to the corporate execs, they never would have been incentivized to hire these D.E.I. employees if not for that.
Star Wars Outlaws / Disney and Ubisoft flying "content creators," from all over the world, to Disneyland in California, all expenses paid (tens of thousands of $ per person, with current flight, transportation, and hotel costs) is fucking *insane* . It's a level of wastefulness and bloat that is staggering, STAGGERING.
You would be amazed at the amount of corporate waste there is. When I worked at home depot, we destroyed a custom made door that was worth thousands, simply because the hinges were put on the wrong side of the door.
I first noticed the uglification of female characters in games and the general trend downwards in regards to quality around the mid 2010s. Back then, I had no idea why it was happening as I wasn't really monitoring the industry as a whole. But it was obviously apparent something had happened. And when I finally started looking into the "why" around 2019-20, a million piece puzzle suddenly fell into a beautiful place. Just saying that the shift was noticeable even to a complete layman when it came to the happenings in the gaming industry. Here's hoping we can return to that golden time of late 90s and 2000s. Been in apathy mode towards anything mainstream for nearly a decade, what's a couple more years.
Hospitals are a terrible example because of the systemic mismanagement that causes talented individuals in primary, secondary, and even tertiary roles to experience burnout and fail to meet patient(customer) needs. Oh wait...that's a perfect example. Meddle management bad.
If this gets the grifters and tourists out of this industry then I am all for it. If they had actual passion for making games they would stick through it no matter how bad it got. But the fact that they are willing to cut and run now shows them for the frauds that they really are.
Bloat is one issue. Look at the credits on an SNES game and credits now. Used to have one or two translators, now you have 5 for every language. Large marketing, HR and other business workers. There are other issues is that games take 3 to 5 years now as more people refuse to play any game if it does not look better then anything from last year. When you try to please everyone you fail to please anyone
I think developers think gamers demand better graphics every time, but is that really true? Seems like indie games that harken back to various graphical eras of video game history are doing well. And remasters of old games (which are better looking than the original, but still far from cutting edge) as well. Most of the new games look like shiny turds to me. I'd be happy to play a new game with PS3 level graphics, or even SNES level graphics, if it could compete with the best titles of that era on quality.
during the 2000's & early 2010s maybe but i dont see that much any more. i more see demands for bug fixes or better writing, better polish or just overall quality. we dont need to see the facial hair of the female protagonist. Is it impressive? sure. will most people ever care about that feature, i highly doubt it. Developers forget that you can do more with less. Or by taking a strange or different style can make it successful. My all time favourite game, Homeworld does it perfectly (not the most recent release, they fucked up so bad its painful). Literally polygonal spaceships, but combined with good music, voice work and direction, created the moment i fell i love with gaming and the medium as a whole.
Comparing the scope of a SNES game to a modern game and calling it bloat is a bit disingenuous. Sure if AAA went back to making SNES games they would not need 5 translators for every language even these days.
I disagree with this. Graphical fidelity plateaued around 5 years ago, and there won't be another major shift in that regard until 4k becomes the standard. People by and large don't care about graphics; the thing we've been complaining about the last few years is that the games that have been cooking for 3-5+ years keep coming out well undercooked in broken, buggy messes, when they should at the very least be playable for the majority of people on release. All we want is something that works on release, is more or less complete, and doesn't insult our intelligence at every turn.
Another great example is Bethesda. Fallout 3, Oblvion, skyrim fallout 4 80 to 200 people. 2 to 4 years a game Star field 9 years and 500 people. Even if you think star field wasn't crap can you actually claim it so much better than past titles that it warrants that much more reaorces particularly when it sold basically the same as skyrim and 4?
"PSA you can enjoy movies and games that didn't sell well." I didn't need that. I enjoyed Ghostbusters 2, I enjoyed Sonic 2006 (outside of using Knuckles and Rouge), I enjoyed Balan Wonderworld, I enjoyed Saints Row IV, I enjoyed Terminator 3, I enjoyed Doom (the movie), I enjoyed Rush Hour 3. I enjoy many crappy movies and video games. What you won't hear from me is trying to convince someone the bad movies and games I like for other to think they're good. I know they're crap and I still enjoy them. Oh and the Super Mario Bros. movie... the original one. The problem with these people are they enjoy crappy movies and then get mad when others don't like them too. No. You can enjoy them and just accept you're in the minority with them. There's no shame in liking Rings of Power... just don't wear it as a badge.
"You can enjoy movies and games that didn't sell well" That's true. There's plethora of both that didn't sell well, but were great: System Shock 2, Prey (2006), Prey (2017), Spec Ops: The Line, Clive Barker's Undying, Ōkami, Beyond Good and Evil, Grim Fandango... However, games that didn't sell well when released have a tendency to be delisted from various distribution platforms.
Some games sell bad/are ignored because it didn't get traction or had a lot of competition at release etc. Games that are made crap, we call shovelware and will never be classics!
The worst part is, you CAN make a woke leaning game without it being a shitshow. Subnautica has a lot of lefty leaning ideas in it. It is anti gun anti capitalist, etc. But those things feel part of the game world and natural, not like something obviously crowbarred into the narrative. Its still an amazing game in my opinion, but then... You get Below Zero... Perhaps riding high off of their success, they took some time to purge the 'wrongthink' in their studio, then went ahead and made a big steaming pile of disappointment. A story full of girlbosses, a game of missing features and half implimented mechanics, and an all around disappointing showing. One of these two was obviously made with the priority of making a good game first... and the other was not.
We need to remind these activists why we gamers love salt so much that we are considered connoisseurs of the finest salts. But we need to harvest more of their and AAA gaming salt before things go back to normal.
11:36 did they try to pull that "but who will pick to cotton?" one there? Trust me. There are still people who are passionate about their off-time activities. Who knows. We might be witnessing another gaming renaissance immediately after the fall there.
Indie games are doing great. Actual passionate game devs are doing great. It's only the soulless woke corporations that are suffering. And good riddance.
@@SchemingGoldberg Doom is crushing right now. The various fighter jet meme games are doing great. Dark Souls birthed a whole fucking genre and then ELDEN RING made history as one of the best things ever made. Much as I'm not a fan, Genshin, Star Rail, and all that other gacha stuff is going gangbusters right now. Good games are doing just fine.
Na, I am more than happy with them getting fired. The only thing that could make it better, would be if they all had to move to a socialist country, like they want my country to become.
So they'd rather just quit altogether than abandon The Message. We already knew where their priorities lie, but they're really unashamed in confirming it. Either way, I'll take it. There are hundreds of amazing indie games coming out every year, so I'm not bothered.
They openly hated you and the games they work on, changed it to not cater to you anymore, told you "this game isnt for you" And then wondered why the playerbase became apathetic or outright left the space. No shit you aren't making any money.
"Why even do x anymore?" is the kind of question that shows clear as day that not only were they never into the subject with a passion, they also come off as the whiny losers theyve always been.
if the point of making games is always online games as service looter shooters that remove content like destiny 2, id rather no new games are made. Also we know for a fact they are told to make female characters ugly from that guy who worked on dc comics and drew a woman attractive and said to his son "watch they gonna call me back telling me to make her ugly" and thats what happened.
The question about why work on gaming industry or some other like banks or pharmaceuticals (somewhere around 10 to 12 minutes in the video) reminded me of a How Money Works video about boring jobs. The argument there was that in "exciting" industries and companies like gaming, fashion and sports teams I think, conditions tend to be worse because people are excited to get into those industries and there are plenty of excited people wanting to come in so you can treat workers worse. Also if owners / leaders think they are changing the world / doing something special beyond earning money they may have harder expectations and the attitude you shouldn't just do it for the money. In boring company in a boring industry however the conditions and pay would be better because young people are not dreaming about being there and leaders might be more grounded. If you ask programmers if they would rather develop exciting fun games or bugfix banking software, the gaming company is likely to have a longer line of applicants.
Yes, supply and demand is a simple fact of life. Too many workers means lower wages. Too little value from the workers means lower wages. If you want to make money you need to provide a lot of value in a job that has a low supply of workers.
Essentially you need funding mechanisms that don't require growth to fund development. For example kickstarter, however that requires them to appeal to an audience, they can't culturally capture something that must appeal to a consumer to exist
The Pfizer example has less reason to keep them on as those are the tasks ai is optimal to handle. "Can you draw a happy family with our logo and product"
@@Coconut-219 you start to contextualise movements in history like guilds. Now we have all these people vying for funds, who should you support. Essentially the woke are treating corporations as though they are patronage by the wealthy rather than an ongoing concern that needs profit.
Furiosa - if one watches it to the end - is a deranged, sickening and undeniably harmful to your soul and sanity, modern 'art' project; the protagonist is the villain from Se7en .. ["Imagine the will to keep a man bound for a year. To sever his hand and to use it... to plant fingerprints. To insert tubes into his genitals."] This culture has reached the last stages of moral decomposition; their heroes are the psychotic serial killers of the previous generations! The feeling you're left with in the end - if you're cautious/sensitive of such things - is of being soiled, degraded, like the women in the end, being served the abominable fruit, a satanic reference the writer couldn't pass up.
I can’t way until the day that video games are free of this nonsense woke stuff… so we can get back to live services, cut content, broken releases, “micro transactions” and battle passes in single player games. Not sure if you have short term memory loss or rose tinted glasses but gaming was going downhill long before the woke crap and it will continue to do so even once it’s gone. Why couldn’t you people have rallied against all of that stuff?
Gamers aren't very bright tbh. Gamers get the industry they deserve. At anytime, they could have stopped and said, "Hmm, maybe I shouldn't buy this incredibly low effort copy paste game. Maybe I shouldn't buy this horse armor. Maybe I shouldn't buy this true ending DLC." but we know how that all turned out.
The thing is that unlike movies or books, games are an interactive media that is all about being the best (beating high scores, facing harder challenges, working together if its a co-op game) and that goes against what they preach in other media (give up, you are good as you are) because games is all about getting better than you started as. It reflects even if in a virtual setting the human innate desire of growing with challenges. That entire desire goes head first against the average "for modern audiences" narrative. That is what they don't understand and that is why "movie" games that only journalists actually like will never be as big as even the most average NBA 2K title. Becausr they threw away anything that is actually GAMING to replace with nothing more than a barely interactive movie and a really bad movie.
I recently bought the remastered Star Wars:Bounty Hunter and it is such a vast contrast from modern games it's almost depressing. This game came out in 2002 and I'm having more fun than I've had in a long time. You may say it's nostalgia but I only borrowed this game from a friend when I was a kid and played it for a week so I barely remember it.
They tried to use our entertainment for a political soapbox and it backfired on them spectacularly. I'm glad they are dissallutioned and quitting game development.
Love how its "games journalists" that are trying to make this argument when they are neither Gamers or Journalists! LMAO. This is why the industry fails. The activists in the media run defense for the activists in the games industry and the cyclical circle jerk leads the industry towards a downward spiral of mediocrity and banal "gaming entertainment" experiences. No skin off my back if the industry crashes and burns. I have a gaming backlog a mile long and could probably play a new experience among them once a month, every month for the rest of my life and never need to purchase a single new title from the "modern era" that currently is the gaming landscape. These people despise the hobby and the people who helped make it what it is (aka the paying customer, aka you and me). It is not at all unfair of you to hate them back! FAFO activists!
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What reason is there to make games if i can't jam it full with my propaganda?
Truly, what else could games possible exist for?
A question for the ages.
Agree
Maybe we can climb a mountaintop and ask all the old game developers from 1980-2010 why they did it? There has to be a reason... there has to be...
NFT's 😀
@@Shredius I can explain Chess changing as it went to European courts-- afterall, wtf is an Elephant to a medieval Scotsman? I can even explain early Disney bastardizing European folk tales into milquetoast morality tales because them old fairytales were pretty grimdark. But this modern stuff? Making games for an imaginary customer base is... for who? Who are these games for?
"Why even make games anymore?"
Ah... So they admit it's a grift. That's one way to wave a white flag.
They were so smug when they thought they could ruin our stuff forever, and now that they see the conséquences of their actions, they whimper like the cowards that they are !
Daddy BlackRock is running out of money, and gamers were the largest holdout of this anti-culture cancer.
Never forget BlackRock invested in every kind of media, and Larry Fink specifically got angry that games were costing him huge piles of cash and not "converting" more gamers to "their" side.
They will be shown precisely as much consideration and mercy as they displayed. ... Oh. Oh dear. Not looking so good for them, is it?
@@lunasakara7306 Larry Finkrat XD
@@lunasakara7306 Reading this comment has made my day so much better.
@@lunasakara7306 Guess you could say Larry had his "behavior forced".
Which is a good thing. Screw that karker to hel.
Press S to spit on grave
S 🤮
If I start, I would need to remain hydrated because I wouldn't be able to stop.
S
They don't deserve my water.
i'd give one S...but i'd rather give 2, one I and a P for these buttholes.
Yes. Normalize the fact that they are ALWAYS at the mercy of their true source of income. Us, The people they insult on social media.
The customer is the most powerful being in existence. The customer is the only one that can fire the CEO of a company. The customer is the only one who decides whether a company lives or dies. The company needs us, but we do not need the company. It's time for companies to be reminded of that fact.
But…b b but… ViDeO GaME ComPaNiEs OnLy HaVE ToO ReSPoND to InVeStOrS AnD ShArEHoLdErS. CoNsUmErS HaVe No PoWeR
@@SchemingGoldbergnot to mention that companies can sustain themselves
You are dead wrong. Even if the game sells ZERO copies the studio is till bailed out by blackrock. As larry Fink said, its not about profit, its about the message. They don't care about your wallet
@@2138Dude I see. Another company will simply recoup their losses just to spread "The Message"
And when the Company that bailed them out has realized this brand no longer has any capability to spread "The Message"
Where will this broken used rag of a company go? get sold or dissolved.
Only an extremist would go so far as sacrificing themselves for "The message", the coherent who just went with the flow will not.
And where does the coherent go to? Back to me. The Customer.
I completely agree with this statement
"Why should wokeists make video games anymore". It seems entirely pointless and they should stop and never try it again.
Only way is if they’re 6 feet under. they wanted us dead and homeless. Why can’t we want the same from them?
As a man once said, everything woke turns to shite.
Truly a wise man.
Donald trump
@@halo129830the wisest man, folks, believe me
@@nickcarroll8565 I have the best wisdom. No one has wisdom better than mine.
A very wise man.
Layoffs will continue until morale improves
*loads comissar's bolt pistol menacingly
" If you won't serve your customers then you will serve on the firing line!"
If targeted correctly, that could work.
More like until the product improves
Or Trump is elected
'People are not buying our video games and it is YOUR fault!', cries the untalented woke activists.
"We deserve YOUR money! Give us YOUR money even though we refuse to give you what you want! You must lower your standards and buy our horrible products!"
Not one penny shall be spent
And don't be fooled as they feign some sort of innocent ignorance. The article itself is manipulation. They can't escape being victims.
@@SchemingGoldberg"Damn, you guys must really hate making money, now you don't get even more money. Now get back to drinking those cups of piss"! Is what I have to say to them
"People are not buying our video games and it's your fault!"
"Sir, this is a Wendy's."
I can't wait until the day that video games are free of this nonsense woke stuff.
Enjoy waiting till Armageddon. Woke is just the new face of the worst part of human nature, narcissism. "I am perfect, so I must make others accept my perfection."
It will end when the ESG money finally runs out. Until then there will always be developers who give into the temptation of easy investment money even at the risk of angering their customers.
For real dude, even the more "successful" games released during this period like baulders gate 3 are going to age very, very poorly because of the woke political nonsense, which funny story about that game,
none of that was present in the alpha and beta builds of the game, they added that in last minute because the studio behind the game, wanted to use it to launch them into triple A status.
So effectively, they sacrificed the future longevity and replayability of their own product, to commit suicide by becoming a triple A company.
wait for new freikorps
Still need to purge the money men. The woke nonsense is only a part of the problem that have been plaguing AAA games. It won't stop the over moneytization and crap half finished releases of games.
Watching how most devs behave on social media these days I have exactly 0 fucks to give about them losing their jobs, in fact I am bouncing around like a gremlin and screeching with joy for each round of layoffs I hear about at this point.
They will.
-Attack customers who actually pay for what they make.
-Attack other developers who speak out whatsoever.
-Work with people who have lied so severely about others that it ended in people taking their own lives.
-Celebrate vandalizing of work that is not theirs or that of the person vandalizing it.
-Ignore customers that pay for what they make.
-Listen to terminally online people who never have and never will actually pay for anything they make.
-Launch harassment campaigns against people who don't fall in line.
-Attempt to extort companies to get their way.
They made their bed now they can lie in it and choke on the bile they spew.
Amen!!!!!!!
Sounds like someone who has seen this from inside, first hand, up close, smelling the burning flesh, hearing the sizzle pop of charring fat rendering oil to flare up the flames. Watched it in another industry. Ugly.
My feelings in a nutshell.
Rip the fuel lines out of the Starboard engine and ride the storm of disdain! (Twillight Zone, the movie)
i did not know they were this messed up although its not suprising
It's almost like hiring a bunch of middlemen that do nothing but meddle manage wasn't a good idea.
Manglement
@@Knowbody42 Meddlemanglement.
Too many HR managers, PR managers and diversity consultants, with enormous CEO paychecks blow game budgets out of proportions and force for MTX in every game to justify the budget.
Turns out there's no sustainable income to be found in ruining what your customers love.
Maybe _more_ verbal abuse will finally convince those pesky bigots to fork over their wallets. 🤡
Sustainable income is not why they do it. There are much darker reasons for it.
They were kind of successful though. People never stopped buying games. Ironically, the industry is still booming compared to what it was before they went after their customers.
@@bmsuperstar1 Not the entire industry, at all. There is a handful of massively profitable IPs carrying the entire _triple A_ segment of the industry at this point. Combine that with the amount of money the major publishers must dump into developing a single title... The string of flops that did not bring in substantial returns over the past couple years are not the hallmarks of a "booming" industry of which you speak.
One problem is the anti-consumer/anti-gamer ideologies at play. The other big problem is the fact that every major publisher, much less every developer, can *not* have a massive persistent live-service micro-transaction cash cow that generates massive wealth indefinitely. There is only room for a handful of such titles in the world. Because the gamers footing the bill, don't have effing infinite wealth, much less infinite time. There are only so many wales in the world, and they can only sink their time and enthusiasm into so many titles. So the more these publishers pursue this dream of consumers owning nothing and everything being live service, the deeper into the red most of them will end up.
If we have to pay weekly to unlock our doors and roll down our windows, we aren't going to be able to afford to buy 10 billion AK skins which get deactivated in 10 months, in 500 different tittles, lol...
to send them back one of their quotes, "you will no be missed"
They should just "lern 2 code".
Oh wait, they are even unemployable to do that!
Crony daddy Blackrock and lil cousin Crybaby getting all mad cause gamers can't be molded into brain dead activists.
Why do they care so much??? :')
In the 80s and 90s games where made by people that loved games and played games.
Now its college grads who want to teach us plebs how silly we are and wrong about
everything.
Soon those days will return as long as we are not stopped from buying them.
Even the early to mid 2000s games are made by people who loved the hobby.
I'm going to put it this way, despite being dated visually and mechanically, a game like dragon age origins is going to outlive and be fondly remembered compared to more "modern hits" like baulders gate 3, a game in which that it could have attained similar status as DAO but is sacrificed on the alter of wokeness and LGBT representation.
Mark my words, that game is going to be getting torn apart in a few years now that we are starting to get extensive backlash against the left in gaming
@@delta2372
It's kinda sad when the localisation and censorship is so bad these days, that even with hd2d remakes you're still better off with the original. 😵💫
I would argue it didn't really become a majority leftist/woke/elitist/insert-term-here until around 2014-15. These people certainly had a foothold before then, but they hadn't obtained the kind of control they've had until now. Unfortunately, GamerGate basically handed the industry to these outsiders. I can only hope current events are starting to reverse that.
I should also note that it has nothing to do with these people being college grads, it has to do with what they graduated in. If they had gotten degrees in Computer Science, Graphic Design, History, or any number of other industry-related fields, this wouldn't be a problem. It's that they got their degrees in Women's Studies, Psychology, and Communications, with no real interactions with people with genuine intelligence, regardless of education.
@@delta2372On one hand that game really is a woke haven, but on the other hand at least the devs were self aware enough that a player would want to end every other character. So if you want you can go full "eraser" mode on their characters in a glorious big ball of fire.
@@SammEater from my experience with the game, the first two arcs are woke but it's an eye rolling "yeah yeah it's modern gaming just let me play the game" sort of way, the third arc though? how the fuck is there anyone still inhabiting this world when majority of the population is gay?
"Why even make art?" - the outcry of most wannabes, not artists
Exactly, a true artist would never say this, the love of the craft is always motivation enough. These people just want to make money but can't be bothered to do what it takes to make it.
A true artist will go through hell to create a passion project
Narcissists are incapable of creation, the opposite is their MO, every single one of them.
Gatekeep now, Gatekeep tomorrow, Gatekeep forever!
Man the gates!
One thing i noticed, someone made a video showing the Twitter profiles of a lot of people from Bungie that were fired, and every single one of them were activists with flags and pronouns in their bios
They hired only that kind and drove out everyone else. So no surprise there.
weird how this only started when the activist class started attacking Israel.
surely just a cohencidence.
Based, get them outta there.
And sadly CD Projekt wants to hire these people. I have no hopes for future Witcher games.
Good.
Developers have the best and the easiest tools they ever had and yet their games are more expensive, bloated and poorly made than ever.
It really gets the nogging jogging why there are so many layoffs...
Competency crisis, my man.
There's no justification for any game to be triple digit GBs big, people need to relearn how to optimize shit because goddamn, I don't have a whole storage full of SSDs for all of this shit.
Bingo agree competency crisis as even with all the tools today, they dont know how to use them or what to create, no longer need to make the cartriges and yeat they are more expensive ever, as they put more and more in graffic and less, also now you prize people out of the market with more and more increasing, prices, both in hardware and more demand for more advance hardware, so at the end, you are increasing prices and excluding costumers, and instead of pointing to what costumers want or improving more anime tities, or better gameplay, or even functioning games, so it will go under, as the people that know how to produce are retiring, is done
@@Jokoko2828 Optimisation, good. Sadly its the vocal minority of people wanting super, ultra, wopper 24k UHH with 200 bit colour. Its the graphics that bloat most programs so much. The people who feel the need to game on what would have been a higher end full on dual socket server, from 10-15 years ago, 1000+Kwh PSUs FFS. With settings that a Human cannot see as they are too high. 120-240 htz monitors. When we squishy meatbags top out at the 60-75hz range for vison.
No kidding. The price of games are getting expensive not because it costs more to make them, but because of how they're spending their money.
Hell, just take a look at that new Star Wars game. How much do you think they SPENT on making the model MORE UGLY? It would have been cheaper to make less changes to the base model.
Probably quite a bit if they're hiring consultancy groups as part of that process.
“We all make choices, but in the end our choices make us.”
Great Bioshock quote for this situation.
"The Gamer" is by far the worst example of extrem wokeness activism in videogame journalism.
I dunno, Alyssa Mercante alone makes a compelling argument for Kotaku being the worst
@@irishijo1 If only you knew how much more cancerous thegamer is.
Mercante is not even mid level of what you'd get in that cesspool.
@@irishijo1 +1
You can tell they literally don't know anything about what they are talking about when in the first paragraph alone they already said; "Destiny is a big deal" and "People are exited for the new dragon age game"
Yeah. Just when it looks like we might _finally_ be seeing the (prolonged) end of Kotaku this year, another ugly, venomous head of the hydra regrows to take its place.
Europeans, don't forget to sign the Stop Killing Games petition. Let us continue protecting our beloved hobby from clutches of evil.
Where to find it?
Done that few days ago. We are signing it at rapid pace.
I won't. That will have to come through national laws or not at all. I want the EU as a whole gone.
@@JPG.01 EU directives will be converted into local laws. EU itself can't make laws
It can. They're called Regulations and are immediately binding without needing to be legislated by Member States@@marcogenovesi8570
To describe the games industry briefly:
Everyone would be happy with a game where Samus spends 95% of it in her Zero Suit.
Everyone would be happy with a game where Samus spends none of the game in her Zero Suit.
No one would be happy with a game where the worlds ugliest rendition of Samus runs around in her Zero Suit.
Stop making characters ugly for no reason.
And nothing of value is lost...
NGL watching Pete Parsons flex on the employees he was about to fire is peak Chad behavior.
Willingly
Overlooking
Known
Evil
Good one.
Woke
Overlords
Killing
Everything
Is also accurate.
@@techpriest6962 The W in woke stands for woke? 😂
To be fair games haven’t been games for a while they are just a vehicle or season passes and micro transactions
They became nothing more than a vessel to sell us junk. Amd as a vessel it became all to easy to transform it from selling junk to propaganda.
you are describing the AAA feild
@@NoahGooderunfortunately the AA and A games too
A significant amount of Gamers play old Games currently, but don't buy new Games.
If this isn't a case for the concept of free markets.
I’m just playing Asian games
@@edwardweaver6869 Games that have attractive women sell well?! Who would have thought?
@@SchemingGoldberg Right? Crazy how that works. Like Blue Archive makes 10-16m a month and it hardly has gameplay.
These devs would be surprised what people will pay for when you just make attractive characters
@@edwardweaver6869Nah not a fan of gacha, I will just stick with old games until the current industry dies and normal games can have attractive female characters again.
@@edwardweaver6869I’m playing fallout 3 and NV
Yea, why ARE activists still making video games that just flop massively...
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@@biglyboi hava nagila
Because the money they burn is not theirs
Because Larry Fink keeps throwing them easy money.
Because they often clear a profit before the first copy sells courtesy of the government investing your failing pension into it as a propaganda mouthpiece.
Anyone who says shit like "Why even make games anymore" should all *FIND THE EXIT,* realize you shouldn't be here, and *LEAVE AND NEVER RETURN.*
Imagine a musician or visual artists say something like that. LOL. It begs the question: Why are you doing this in the first place?
Every god damned time I hear whining about how making games is hard and costly I look at some of the older games and people who made them and a quote from Iron Man comes to mind "Tony Stark was able to build it in a cave...". Problem is not the resources and money but the people, "where there is a will there is a way" after all.
Look into the conditions 4A put up with while making Metro Last Light. Not only did they move mountains to get it done, they made an amazing game.
I look at stuff like Kenshi, star sector or stardew Valley and laugh because one enthusiast with a full time job made a better game in the free time than a thousand proffesional developers
@@vonfaustien3957 O yeah, Kenshin is also what I had in mind. True graphics may not be the best but when it comes gamaplay it is faaar better than 90% what AAAs spewed out these last couple years
All anyone needs to look at from 2023 is Chained Echoes. A single guy made a JRPG by himself within 5-7 years using tools that honestly look like they came from some earlier form of a Microsoft gaming development kit.
@@richardklein1167 Dang I never knew it was just one guy. Very impressive. He deserves his success X10. 👍🏻
It been happening for years. As GRE say. a healthy industry is not one where you get big publishers to buy other big one and combining into one dying company. Serve them right for chasing away their real customers for Investors. the bubble is bursting and i am all in for the gaming industry crash and layoff. the good one will rise from the ashes.
I saw a comment the other day: "Entrepreneurs dream of being bought out by the best."
Had to stop and take a moment to really drink in the sheer myopic stupidity of it.
@@harbl99 Years ago, i forget the video. amidst the fallout 76 controversy. someone said something about that Bethesda is trying to make as much money as possible and as fast. so that someone might buy them out right. this why the industry is in the gutter bean counters who have no business ruining gaming and are parasites from another industry,
they are the one who call the shots.
@@CoolSswas it maybe 21Kiloton?
“someone said something about that Bethesda is trying to make as much money as possible and as fast.”
Then they’d license out their IP and get more “New Vegas” style games released instead of waiting a decade to release a new one.
@@christophbeck1305 Not sure, saw it years ago. It was random youtuber. If he was 21 kiloton, i would have known. The guy got his signature voice and demeanor.
make gaming niche again.
I want gaming to be as unknown as sports Bowling
Sadly, that will never happen, the cat has been out of the bag for 20 years.
Impossible. Not since Nintendo became a Household Name.
@@silverhawkscape2677
I'll never understand the Nintendo obssession
@@JathraDH
Meeeeh, I don't know...seems like pretty probable with this gaming crash...
Normies will bugger off to Fortnite, that next arena shooter, and League.
And we'll be left alone to enjoy games like Shadows of Doubt.
@@hunn20004 That would not make gaming niche. You will still have millions and millions of people playing games. You aren't even considering the mobile market, for instance.
Let the biggest gaming companies fall... so they can serves as a warning to the rest...
Activist shouldn't be a job position anywhere
They always want to be praised for failing, let's just send them a participation award in their redundancy notice.....that'll work.
They could just go to any random website to get their appreciative 🍪
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They live in victimhood. Zero accountability.
When everybody is special, no one is special, they most have missed that wise memo. Then* again: they are "spesial".
Great, now hopefully they'll leave and we can have good games again.
One can only hope, otherwise its back to rpgmaker godot and clickteam for me. Not that I mind its more fun than their shlop
Don’t forget the part where we close the gates behind them and tell them to not come back.
Agree with that
@@jeffy.958 Once and for all.
Gacha games say no.
A few Years ago, a Reaction of a Dev Studio to Player feedback/Engagement with one of their game modes told me everything i needed to know. Game was F1 Codemasters. They had challenges, certain situations you had to successfully master. You could earn "Battle pass" points with it.
1 Patch 1 read: "As very few people engage with our challenges, we increased the Rewards for those and we hope players engage with it more and enjoy them"
Why? Why force people to engage with something in your game they already dont like? Why spend budget on a Part of your game players dont like? Why not spend that budget on Bug Fixes? More Content for the Parts of the game People already like?
This told me that Devs now rather want to force people to do what they want instead of giving the customers what they want.
Honestly that one can be chalked up to sunk cost and internal testing not aligning with it.
A very similar issue is happening in Black Desert Online, where they made a massive change to their PvP Node War system, changes that made the system far inferior to the old system. The only reason its not 100% and only 99% bad? Rewards. The rewards are great, but all of the gameplay around those rewards is completly lacking. Its destroyed the PvP community, its destroyed most peoples will to play, its destroyed long-standing guilds that have been around since the beginning.
That's exactly how they should have handled it. You want players to do a certain thing so you incentivize it.
Was that a major issue for players in taking up those challenges? I get the point though. If it's fun and interesting people will do it regardless, usually, but there does need to be a proper payoff if it's that much of a challenge to complete it.
@@J.B.1982 Zhe Major issue was that Players mainly bought the game to play online, random lobbys and in leagues, or play the Single Player Career or My Team Mode. Challenges was basicly a waste of budget.
That "guy?" who wrote that article is so embarrassing with how little they/them understand how money works. Let them all fail and make games from the ashes. 🔥
"this is my new variant of e-x-hentai"
I wish I could give more than one thumbs up 😂
Why even make games anymore?
Ok then, don't. Modders, indie devs, or even solo devs will keep doing what they do and most gamers wont notice the difference for a lack of CoD 72 or whatever cash grab the publishers are trying to force down our necks.
And the thing is, those three groups of developers put their heart and soul into those games. (The successful ones anyway.) And it doesn't take as much for them to be as successful. The modders do it for free.
There was a time where I would have found this attitude of mine distasteful, but honestly, I'm with Arch - the growing demoralization of the demoralizers is..... exquisite
It's absolutely delightful, isn't it?
No more woke, no more microtransactions in full priced games, games actually being finished products upon release.
My god the future looks bright.
Not only western studios are making games no one wants to buy, they're doing so with unbelievably inflated budgets.
Not only that, they are making games they want gamers to want, not what gamers actually want and tried to shame gamers into changing their behaviors. It didn’t work.
Give 10 million dollars pick of the liter in your company for a game and I’ll give you not only a functioning game but a really good game. No HR overhead and no studio interference I’ll get it out in 2 years minimum but that’s rushed.
Yes please, stop making games.
Drop the industry and let it stand or fall on its own.
Gaming is dead. Long live gaming.
Seriously, theres a reason most people are playing games that launched between 2000 and 2018
The vast majorly might be playing titles from 2000-2018 but from more modern titles you might see 1 maybe 2 titles being played a year. The average customers nowadays are just tired of modern gaming and are actively filtering out games they want to play more than before.
Played the new update of Helldiver 2 and realized jt's all nerfs, and went back to cruelty squad. Game looks like ass, but atleast I feel powerful.
@@BladeMasterIcarus I think it's due more to people only having the time and money to play one or two games, since everything now has either daily challenges or a battlepass. They're being far more selective with their purchases, since the cost of the basic goods needed to live have gone way up in the last few years.
@@OutLanderUSN well for adults that statement is true but for teenagers and children playing older games is just objectively better experience. Since ya know they have more time on their hands.
I know I just play old games and indies these days.
Victory is close, brothers. 4th, 8th and 20th, keep up yer advances. Fight on.
But we shouldn't stop even after the dust has settled, as they will strike again
@@user-ny6vy3sw5p the fourth goes for the warriors and the machines, the 20th for the heads. We go for all the rest. By the end, none should survive.
We are actually in a media crash right now. Movies, t.v. shows, video games, books, comics and so on are so over saturated by bad products that its collapsing under its own weight.
Hell the dustborn demo, which is free to download, has in the last month had 46 people play it.
_Never interrupt your enemy if he's making a mistake"._
- Napoleon Bonaparte.
I thought it was Sun Tzu who said that....Or was it Napoleon Dynamite?
Game jurno: I love games.
Me: here's a thing; I don't believe a word you're saying. Even that sentence is too much to take on a board.
youtube deleting comments again, anyways here’s a comment for the algorithm machine god.
EVEN WHEN BANNED, I STILL SERVE THE OMNISSIAH
I know, I’m always seeing my comments deleted, and often they are often nothing more than a generic “good point”.
The industry is full of people who simply show up to collect a pay check, while you have actual passionate, creative people who can't get a job...however, it might be for the best.
On one hand, kinda feel bad for the people losing jobs.
On the other hand, winning the culture war is like making an omelet. The first step is to crack the eggs.
Why would you feel bad for them? They hate you. They actively try to destroy everything you love. You should show them no mercy, because they will show you none as well.
*"people"
a quick glance at interviews with these sorts of developers, or what they've said on social media about their customers - tends to alleviate any misplaced sympathy I find.
Just remember they want much worse for you.
Unions prevent the firing of ineffective and outright piss-poor employees. To fire an employee who outright refuses to do their job requires the union to agree with the decision, and since the union wants to keep receiving dues from that employee, they will never agree.
Also, as someone who once had to rely on an union, I both lost a promotion AND eventually the job. I also wasn't the only one - an entire GROUP of people relied on their union, and their union screwed them over (this is in an "union-friendly" state regulated environment, mind you). They're useless.
These people are willing to be so self delusional. I now understand why scp-682 hates humans.
Based SCP-682.
In the late 2000's I was at a hotel during a motorcycle ride somewhere in Nevada and the AFL-CIO Union president Trumka just happened to be there and just happened to strike up a conversation with me in the parking lot. He had no clue I actually knew who he was, thanks to Glen Beck who he had recently threatened since Beck had started exposing Soros.
I asked him a simple question.
If everyone involved in making a loaf of bread, from the farmer who grew the grain to the guy airing up the tires on the bread truck, was in a union how much would a loaf of bread cost?
Oh the look that dude gave me would have crushed a lesser man but I just looked him in the eyes with a knowing grin and waited for a response that never came.😂
You keep being you Arch our Charon gatekeeper!
Charon lore when?🤔
Sorry Arch but your wrong, they DO understand that if the company goes under their job goes with it.
I have a friend who said he knows that and that he would rather his union destroy the company and he lose his job then take even 1 penny of a pay cut.
Or allow them to lay off a single employee. They understand Arch, they are just to selfish and EVIL to care.
Yes, i called my friend evil, and he is, about this ONE thing. people can be good or evil in many ways.
I this just means i would never hire him for anything ever.
much like Dev
@@Coconut-219 Exactly like Dev
@@Coconut-219 Dev is friendshaped.
Don't even be friends with him.
@@BigGainer98 To be fair he is against every other stupid or evil thing going on in society. I can tolerate his love of Unions... besides I'm just waiting for that moment i get to say "I told you so" when his union fucks him over... it's only a matter of time. *troll face*
I'm sorry... the WHAT of the game is no longer a good reason?
These people keep showing sign after sign after sign they not only hate games, but hate gamers.
Show me where to they even remotely SLIGHTLY like or enjoy games?
They've always hated us gamers. They hate everyone who disagrees with them and refuses to come over to their side.
5:52 I've been saying this for a long time. The money people are often the source of pretty terrible mandates for creatives, But they've always been like this, they havent changed, and they have been there since the 90s. What has changed is the developers on the ground, significantly so.
The biggest thing that changed was Blackrock handing out E.S.G. score money like it's candy to the corporate execs, they never would have been incentivized to hire these D.E.I. employees if not for that.
the world would such a nice place if the woke did just stop making games, in-fact stopped making any damned thing
What a wonderful world that would be.
Won't happen until people learn about magnus hirschfeld and acknowledge which side of ww2 was woke
They have at least proven while they can make an extremely rare game or two that work (99%) just die.
@@UC3M9QmuafgJ7GCcEF2HDNQAbut was he a nazi or who was him with? I looked it up and it just said that his research was destroyed by german nazis
Star Wars Outlaws / Disney and Ubisoft flying "content creators," from all over the world, to Disneyland in California, all expenses paid (tens of thousands of $ per person, with current flight, transportation, and hotel costs) is fucking *insane* . It's a level of wastefulness and bloat that is staggering, STAGGERING.
Someone has to be positive about their slop they try to feed gamers, because sure as fuck it's not the gamers
What we are seeing Is the final years of a company that didn't know how to climb up from the hole it dug for itself
You would be amazed at the amount of corporate waste there is. When I worked at home depot, we destroyed a custom made door that was worth thousands, simply because the hinges were put on the wrong side of the door.
Breathe it in lads.
I first noticed the uglification of female characters in games and the general trend downwards in regards to quality around the mid 2010s. Back then, I had no idea why it was happening as I wasn't really monitoring the industry as a whole. But it was obviously apparent something had happened. And when I finally started looking into the "why" around 2019-20, a million piece puzzle suddenly fell into a beautiful place.
Just saying that the shift was noticeable even to a complete layman when it came to the happenings in the gaming industry. Here's hoping we can return to that golden time of late 90s and 2000s. Been in apathy mode towards anything mainstream for nearly a decade, what's a couple more years.
Hospitals are a terrible example because of the systemic mismanagement that causes talented individuals in primary, secondary, and even tertiary roles to experience burnout and fail to meet patient(customer) needs.
Oh wait...that's a perfect example. Meddle management bad.
Bring back the era of Interplay. "BY GAMERS FOR GAMERS"
If this gets the grifters and tourists out of this industry then I am all for it. If they had actual passion for making games they would stick through it no matter how bad it got. But the fact that they are willing to cut and run now shows them for the frauds that they really are.
Nature is healing.
Bloat is one issue. Look at the credits on an SNES game and credits now. Used to have one or two translators, now you have 5 for every language.
Large marketing, HR and other business workers. There are other issues is that games take 3 to 5 years now as more people refuse to play any game if it does not look better then anything from last year.
When you try to please everyone you fail to please anyone
I think developers think gamers demand better graphics every time, but is that really true? Seems like indie games that harken back to various graphical eras of video game history are doing well. And remasters of old games (which are better looking than the original, but still far from cutting edge) as well. Most of the new games look like shiny turds to me. I'd be happy to play a new game with PS3 level graphics, or even SNES level graphics, if it could compete with the best titles of that era on quality.
during the 2000's & early 2010s maybe but i dont see that much any more. i more see demands for bug fixes or better writing, better polish or just overall quality.
we dont need to see the facial hair of the female protagonist. Is it impressive? sure. will most people ever care about that feature, i highly doubt it.
Developers forget that you can do more with less. Or by taking a strange or different style can make it successful.
My all time favourite game, Homeworld does it perfectly (not the most recent release, they fucked up so bad its painful). Literally polygonal spaceships, but combined with good music, voice work and direction, created the moment i fell i love with gaming and the medium as a whole.
Comparing the scope of a SNES game to a modern game and calling it bloat is a bit disingenuous. Sure if AAA went back to making SNES games they would not need 5 translators for every language even these days.
I disagree with this. Graphical fidelity plateaued around 5 years ago, and there won't be another major shift in that regard until 4k becomes the standard. People by and large don't care about graphics; the thing we've been complaining about the last few years is that the games that have been cooking for 3-5+ years keep coming out well undercooked in broken, buggy messes, when they should at the very least be playable for the majority of people on release.
All we want is something that works on release, is more or less complete, and doesn't insult our intelligence at every turn.
Another great example is Bethesda.
Fallout 3, Oblvion, skyrim fallout 4 80 to 200 people. 2 to 4 years a game
Star field 9 years and 500 people.
Even if you think star field wasn't crap can you actually claim it so much better than past titles that it warrants that much more reaorces particularly when it sold basically the same as skyrim and 4?
"Why make games any more?"
Entertainment? A radical crazy idea, I know.
schadenfreude truly is a wonderful thing.
They try to drag us down into their NPC despair. Let them slide into their own abyss.
You know what i agree. With the way games have been going downhill they should quit making games.
If a doctor kept making bad decisions regarding what their patients need and want, chances are that they too would find themselves out of employment.
I'm pretty sure doctors also legally can't disregard the explicit wishes of their customers/patients and just do whatever the way the activists do.
@@GodOfOrphanscorrect a doctor can find himself in jail for malpractice.
"PSA you can enjoy movies and games that didn't sell well."
I didn't need that. I enjoyed Ghostbusters 2, I enjoyed Sonic 2006 (outside of using Knuckles and Rouge), I enjoyed Balan Wonderworld, I enjoyed Saints Row IV, I enjoyed Terminator 3, I enjoyed Doom (the movie), I enjoyed Rush Hour 3.
I enjoy many crappy movies and video games. What you won't hear from me is trying to convince someone the bad movies and games I like for other to think they're good. I know they're crap and I still enjoy them.
Oh and the Super Mario Bros. movie... the original one.
The problem with these people are they enjoy crappy movies and then get mad when others don't like them too. No. You can enjoy them and just accept you're in the minority with them. There's no shame in liking Rings of Power... just don't wear it as a badge.
They're butthurt because no one is buying their garbage.
Capitalism is a BEAUTIFUL thing.
Good. let the woke despair and give up. make way for the real game devs, and the real fans.
"You can enjoy movies and games that didn't sell well"
That's true. There's plethora of both that didn't sell well, but were great: System Shock 2, Prey (2006), Prey (2017), Spec Ops: The Line, Clive Barker's Undying, Ōkami, Beyond Good and Evil, Grim Fandango...
However, games that didn't sell well when released have a tendency to be delisted from various distribution platforms.
Some games sell bad/are ignored because it didn't get traction or had a lot of competition at release etc.
Games that are made crap, we call shovelware and will never be classics!
The worst part is, you CAN make a woke leaning game without it being a shitshow. Subnautica has a lot of lefty leaning ideas in it. It is anti gun anti capitalist, etc. But those things feel part of the game world and natural, not like something obviously crowbarred into the narrative. Its still an amazing game in my opinion, but then...
You get Below Zero...
Perhaps riding high off of their success, they took some time to purge the 'wrongthink' in their studio, then went ahead and made a big steaming pile of disappointment. A story full of girlbosses, a game of missing features and half implimented mechanics, and an all around disappointing showing.
One of these two was obviously made with the priority of making a good game first... and the other was not.
We need to remind these activists why we gamers love salt so much that we are considered connoisseurs of the finest salts. But we need to harvest more of their and AAA gaming salt before things go back to normal.
11:36 did they try to pull that "but who will pick to cotton?" one there?
Trust me. There are still people who are passionate about their off-time activities. Who knows. We might be witnessing another gaming renaissance immediately after the fall there.
Indie games are doing great. Actual passionate game devs are doing great. It's only the soulless woke corporations that are suffering. And good riddance.
@@SchemingGoldberg Doom is crushing right now. The various fighter jet meme games are doing great. Dark Souls birthed a whole fucking genre and then ELDEN RING made history as one of the best things ever made. Much as I'm not a fan, Genshin, Star Rail, and all that other gacha stuff is going gangbusters right now.
Good games are doing just fine.
Na, I am more than happy with them getting fired.
The only thing that could make it better, would be if they all had to move to a socialist country, like they want my country to become.
*I shall return to Dwarf Fortress.*
*No one can take that away from me.*
I think they are adding/have added non-binary dwarves. ToadyOne is a pod person now.
So they'd rather just quit altogether than abandon The Message.
We already knew where their priorities lie, but they're really unashamed in confirming it.
Either way, I'll take it. There are hundreds of amazing indie games coming out every year, so I'm not bothered.
>quit altogether
And they will NOT BE MISSED as their works are forgotten
@@mitchellalexander9162 Already forgotten 😄
They openly hated you and the games they work on, changed it to not cater to you anymore, told you "this game isnt for you" And then wondered why the playerbase became apathetic or outright left the space. No shit you aren't making any money.
That is a good question these people hate gamers so much why do they bother making video games for them.
They're trying to change the culture.
It's not just the _woke_ stuff. It's all the bloat and band-wagoning on bad business practices.
All of that goes together. One bad decision leads to another bad decision leads to another bad decision...
"Why even do x anymore?" is the kind of question that shows clear as day that not only were they never into the subject with a passion, they also come off as the whiny losers theyve always been.
if the point of making games is always online games as service looter shooters that remove content like destiny 2, id rather no new games are made.
Also we know for a fact they are told to make female characters ugly from that guy who worked on dc comics and drew a woman attractive and said to his son "watch they gonna call me back telling me to make her ugly" and thats what happened.
The question about why work on gaming industry or some other like banks or pharmaceuticals (somewhere around 10 to 12 minutes in the video) reminded me of a How Money Works video about boring jobs.
The argument there was that in "exciting" industries and companies like gaming, fashion and sports teams I think, conditions tend to be worse because people are excited to get into those industries and there are plenty of excited people wanting to come in so you can treat workers worse. Also if owners / leaders think they are changing the world / doing something special beyond earning money they may have harder expectations and the attitude you shouldn't just do it for the money. In boring company in a boring industry however the conditions and pay would be better because young people are not dreaming about being there and leaders might be more grounded.
If you ask programmers if they would rather develop exciting fun games or bugfix banking software, the gaming company is likely to have a longer line of applicants.
Yes, supply and demand is a simple fact of life. Too many workers means lower wages. Too little value from the workers means lower wages. If you want to make money you need to provide a lot of value in a job that has a low supply of workers.
Essentially you need funding mechanisms that don't require growth to fund development. For example kickstarter, however that requires them to appeal to an audience, they can't culturally capture something that must appeal to a consumer to exist
The Pfizer example has less reason to keep them on as those are the tasks ai is optimal to handle. "Can you draw a happy family with our logo and product"
that and kickstarter has some license & banking fraud issues of it's own... however iron those out and it would definitely be a great method.
@@Coconut-219 you start to contextualise movements in history like guilds. Now we have all these people vying for funds, who should you support. Essentially the woke are treating corporations as though they are patronage by the wealthy rather than an ongoing concern that needs profit.
Furiosa - if one watches it to the end - is a deranged, sickening and undeniably harmful to your soul and sanity, modern 'art' project; the protagonist is the villain from Se7en ..
["Imagine the will to keep a man bound for a year. To sever his hand and to use it... to plant fingerprints. To insert tubes into his genitals."]
This culture has reached the last stages of moral decomposition; their heroes are the psychotic serial killers of the previous generations!
The feeling you're left with in the end - if you're cautious/sensitive of such things - is of being soiled, degraded, like the women in the end, being served the abominable fruit, a satanic reference the writer couldn't pass up.
The games industry is like the steak house switched to a all vegan menu and the chefs are angry at the customers that do not show up.
That urinalist can't get unworked asap.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can’t way until the day that video games are free of this nonsense woke stuff… so we can get back to live services, cut content, broken releases, “micro transactions” and battle passes in single player games.
Not sure if you have short term memory loss or rose tinted glasses but gaming was going downhill long before the woke crap and it will continue to do so even once it’s gone.
Why couldn’t you people have rallied against all of that stuff?
Gamers aren't very bright tbh. Gamers get the industry they deserve. At anytime, they could have stopped and said, "Hmm, maybe I shouldn't buy this incredibly low effort copy paste game. Maybe I shouldn't buy this horse armor. Maybe I shouldn't buy this true ending DLC." but we know how that all turned out.
Thank you for the motivation to expand my vintage game library.
These ‘modern audience’ tyrants are not worthy of OUR money.
The thing is that unlike movies or books, games are an interactive media that is all about being the best (beating high scores, facing harder challenges, working together if its a co-op game) and that goes against what they preach in other media (give up, you are good as you are) because games is all about getting better than you started as. It reflects even if in a virtual setting the human innate desire of growing with challenges.
That entire desire goes head first against the average "for modern audiences" narrative. That is what they don't understand and that is why "movie" games that only journalists actually like will never be as big as even the most average NBA 2K title. Becausr they threw away anything that is actually GAMING to replace with nothing more than a barely interactive movie and a really bad movie.
I recently bought the remastered Star Wars:Bounty Hunter and it is such a vast contrast from modern games it's almost depressing. This game came out in 2002 and I'm having more fun than I've had in a long time. You may say it's nostalgia but I only borrowed this game from a friend when I was a kid and played it for a week so I barely remember it.
It’s terrible to make games in AAA gaming industries. The more lower and niche ones will pick up the pace with more love in it
They tried to use our entertainment for a political soapbox and it backfired on them spectacularly. I'm glad they are dissallutioned and quitting game development.
Love how its "games journalists" that are trying to make this argument when they are neither Gamers or Journalists! LMAO. This is why the industry fails. The activists in the media run defense for the activists in the games industry and the cyclical circle jerk leads the industry towards a downward spiral of mediocrity and banal "gaming entertainment" experiences.
No skin off my back if the industry crashes and burns. I have a gaming backlog a mile long and could probably play a new experience among them once a month, every month for the rest of my life and never need to purchase a single new title from the "modern era" that currently is the gaming landscape. These people despise the hobby and the people who helped make it what it is (aka the paying customer, aka you and me). It is not at all unfair of you to hate them back! FAFO activists!
The phrase you forgot I think is "what is held in common is held in contempt".