Yeah. I really hope this show is cancelled. I was waiting this for so long, was super hyped when heard Henry will be onboard and then woke cancer happened.... Its better for everyone and its clear that they won't do good show even when they could.
yes and we all accept his books and the film trilogy over what Amazon is doing....they break nothing! and can do no harm is we refuse to partake in their nonsense so keep resisting and rejecting it!
This is something modern audiences and writers dont seem to understand. Just because its fiction, doesnt mean there aren’t rules and logic to it. If anything can happen in your story, then there are no stakes.
So..... with 350 WH40K books with 60 different writers, Amazon clowns can't write a single episode? Why am I not surprised. Fire your current writing staff Amazon and hire Non-DEI writers who know what they are doing.
It's like: "We can make a lot of money with this... But why not take some more of blackrock's money right now rather than waiting for this to be profitable on it's own" Greed is the problem and they deserve to fail.
If they need money they always can squeeze their warehouse workers more. They've chosen the ideology to brainwash population with and they want that political power.
@@8Aerondight8Short sighted, Present Value greed is the problem. Although greed is generally a problem, this particular type is an even greater one that sacrifices quality and soul for a short term gain that ultimately culminates in the destruction of all potential profit.
Hell! If they didn't want to do Custodes (which they made female, no I won't believe that is was coincidence) they could have made him Caiphis Cain. All the "hot" scene with Amberly they can add in for gratuitousness, use uncanny CGI for chaos and Necrons to show how out of place and disturbing they can be, have their strong wamyn (cake) and beef cake dudes(and eat it) too. Henry Cavill as Cain would have been THE best WH40k adaptation. But no, let's ruin the custodes because dark mineral and woke money says so.
@@johnpk5831 I've actually seen this one already. Was in a discord community that went nuclear over "the emperor is non-binary coded". Due to the fact one of the old stories for the emperor's origin was that he is the creation of a bunch of old school psykers melding their powers together to reincarnate into a single being. People will look for any excuse nowadays. Don't even understand it anymore
Because the studios think they can use him as nothing more than a lure. They get to write whatever subversive tripe they want, and Cavill gets us all to watch it. Not gonna happen.
it's cus the entertainment industry across all departments decided to shit the bed! music, movies, comics, TV, games & books.... art....sculptures, paintings that sort has always somewhat been the realm of the fruity, not 100% but probably 60% fruity cus you kinda got to be a little bit fruit to be an artist! hey, it is what it is, I don't make the rules!
Cavill defends fans and cannon for the projects he is a part of. This is a HUGE problem for showrunners who like to use established IP's to push their terrible writing under a well-known brand.
The Halo showrunners admitted (boasted, even) that they'd never even 'looked at' the games and didn't want to be 'hampered' by them. Compared to those guys, Cavil is the ideal one to be running the show. He's very knowledgable and passionate about the IP going back years.
We could make it lame and gay. Henry Cavill: No. Well we're going to have to completely rewrite this then. Here, it's even more lame and gay. Henry Cavill: No. WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US HENRY! WE'VE MADE IT AS LAME AND GAY AS POSSIBLE! Henry Cavill: Make it not lame and gay. Okay I guess we'll just cancel this because it's impossible to write.
If he walks and tells the fans the project is a sh!tshow, it'll be the kiss of death. Even if he just says "I'm no longer part of the project, and my NDA forbids me from discussing the matter further," it'll be nearly as damaging. Cinema and TV is now littered with the corpses of high-profile sci-fi and fantasy failures. The fandom is hyper-aware of the cultural war and the destruction of franchises. It would take incredible depths of denial and delusion to think the project could be anything but a flop at that point.
They have the money to hire the people who can. There are a group of people in the Amazon Chain of command who will interfere in the creative process regardless if they hired good writers. These people are woke/DEI/Sweet Baby Inc(or whatever name is popular these days) hires who need to prove that they are worth hiring so they fuck with everything else trying to justify the cost of Amazon hiring them, unintentionally losing them money in the process. This is not a conspiracy or some malevolent planning/coordination by a higher power. No, this is a group of incompetent people hiring another group incompetent people(it's simple as that). They will keep burning money until their stakeholders have had enough. This will take years and years. Its only now people are take notice of it.
@@covenant_05 that is just it. This was never a question of finances. It is a question of hiring the write people. Personally unless it’s a Halloween makeup company anyone with pink, blue, or green hair, septum piercings, or who makes introductions with pronouns should never be allowed near a “writing room”. Problem is Amazon sees all of the above as job qualifications.
@@Kross415 Well, aren’t they? They have whole weight of the Imperium and Inquisiton chasing them. Amazon can unironically make chaos cult protagonists of the show. Hell, it would probably work better then see them struggle with imperial „good guys” of 40k. ;)
@@Rabarbarzynca A lot can work if it's well written but I highly doubt they can write anything other than the cheap stereotipical stuff we've been suffering for years.
Roboute falls to one knee before the Throne removing the cuirass, thus revealing the secret 'trans' surgeries, and 'she' cries "Look at me now Father for i am a strong independent woman who don't need no man!" - Amazon script probably.
OMG>>>>NO! Just NO! Space Marines are "transhuman" not "transexual" There's a difference. Roboute Guilliman is one of my favorite characters in all of 40K. if Amazon would ever do that to him, I will flipping sue them for character assassination!
How to write Warhammer Everything is shit Our heroes are fighting to make things less shit for them Our heroes may or may not make things less shit for themselves but a lot of people are going to die while they try.
@@DASRH "The lightbulb turned out to be the only thing holding back billions of demons, those billions of demons would of destroyed the galaxy a long time ago, but they are like moths to said lightbulb." You can't even have a damn lighthouse without it being a whole damn ordeal in this universe!
It’s for the best it doesn’t come out, if Amazon can retcon the Fallout West Coast lore on a whim then 40K doesn’t have a chance in hell, not to mention it’s because of them that the Tzeench-Custodies were manifested in the first place.
Yup, let it burn as far as I’m concerned. And with luck, that’ll be the way GW is leaning. Even the most cynical stockholder has to be looking at the gathering storm and saying to himself: “We need to scale this back” It’s a good thing that the Custodes event happened; the fandom is now primed to reject any change at this stage
As a 40k fan, I don't want this to come out. And honestly I don't know if if I ever want to see a space marine in a live action series. If you make a 40k series, keep it about regular humans with the space marines as distant demigods. It is true to how rare they are, and I honestly doubt that any live action depiction of a space marine would ever live up to peoples imagination.
With the caveat that in the season finale some space marines show up and show how awesome they are before they leave. Their presence rare and spoken of as a myth.
@@MarkAndrewEdwards Astartes was a project of passion, and no matter how much money these Corporations slap on something it won't replace what passion can do.
Imagine struggling to write something with an IP that has that much lore and books around it. But i get it; It's really difficult to find a way to make a universe that's only about war about the rainbow mafia.
@@bakuya99 Reminds me how i recently had a 'discussion' with someone who thought that Guilliman was actually married to Yvraine who also claimed that 'No trust me, i've been a big fan of 40k for years and i think progressive stuff is fine and you shouldn't gate keep!' What's the current term? Anti-Fan? Tourist?
We have this story about black female inquisitor badass, but she execute her lover, because a demon trick her to think the lover was him in disguise, and now how she travel the galaxy to destroy the demon. What can you not love she is black, lesbian, and is disable (cybernetic limb) Did you say the demon trick here? Yes. Scrap that part, a woman can not be tricked. But then the story do not work. Not my problem.
Any display of religious belief that doesn't mock Christianity is a big ick for studio executives. What if one of the idiots in the audience got the impression that holding sincere religious beliefs isn't bad?
@@tyrannosaurusimperator Sure, but unironically, the WH40K universe has the perfect setup in the destruction of all other religions, and a false god put it its place, while at the same time has commentary on what beliefs actually mean? You'd think that would be candy to a certain type of "current day writer"?
No, that's not the situation here. They have already spent countless millions in an attempt to make a show and failing before getting past first draft.
@@colinstewart3531 Well, I guess I would hope they continue to flush some more money down the toilet and then cancel it so they don't even reduce their losses.
You know what i think is happening? Amazon is trying to force Henry to ruin Warhammer's lore for their show but he won't do it and would rather have it canceled then have it ruined. At least Henry is willing to defend the Warhammer IP and its lore unlike GW.
@@cosmictreason2242 boomers didn't force you into a tiny overpriced apartment box where you glue yourself to digital media because going outside will get you addicted the fentanyl. boomers have largely been sitting out these past few decades because, you know; they're dead. If you want to see the source of your problem, meditate on the reflection in the sidewalk urine puddle.
@@Ozzystrayroo She was an Inquisitor. Seriously if they want their girlboss just make an Inquisitor. No one in their right mind would backtalk an Inquisitor in-universe AND Inquisitors also get cool power armor like Space Marines. They even get to show their face and can wear whatever weird progressive coded hairstyle and color they want because again, who in their right mind would backtalk the Emperor's own secret police outside another Inquisitor?
I've always said that I would rather the amazon show never happen than let it rot and corrupt Warhammer 40k with its evil as it did The Lord of the Rings. Looks like what I said is coming into being.
It's social engineering; people like Soros and Prince want to attack and destroy all the childish things holding back adult males because after a boy puts away his toys he usually picks up something productive and manly to replace the hobby. Those who accept the abuse of their franchise are often those who will accept abuse over any facet of their life, so win win for the elite's new imaginary society. On paper it sounds as good as communism, in practice it is as god awful as communism.
So GW strangles all the fan animation to "save their IP" and may be wholeselling it to Amazon in turns. Welp, they never seemed to be particularly smart ones, werent they?
The 40k universe is too masculine to be created in today's "modern" age. Caville is the only one that might be able to do this, but I doubt amazon or GW could.
Henry is the Emperor, making dark pacts with the chaos gods and nothing more. Amazon is a company that genuinely believes "If a song gets stuck in your head, then it obviously is a good song." but by the same logic, in Amazon's eyes the holocaust was a great thing for jews.
If Amazon made Ciaphas Cain into a show I guarantee that there would be employees that would be pushing to make Lt. Sulla into the main character instead of Cain and Jurgen and not the Colonel as she "does not get too much action".
It's important to remember that if Amazon does end up making a 40k show, much like the Fallout show before it, it will not be for the fans of the property. The Amazon show will be for otherwise uninterested people who they can bait in with the misplaced hype of less discerning fans and a novel aesthetic. There's no reason for Amazon to really adapt a preexisting story because it'll interfere with their ability to tell "THEIR" story. Even if they do ultimately adapt an existing story, the likelihood of it being twisted beyond recognition are not insignificant. PS: curious side note, but I wonder what they mean when they talk about getting the rights to Fantasy. Do they mean Fantasy proper, or do they mean AoS. Personally I think it's the latter, which is kind of telling about the wider perceptions surrounding AoS as a setting - ie zero brand recognition or awareness.
As an AOS only player I really hope AOS stays on the down low because we get awesome models and cool and interesting rules/ armies and if AOS blows up like 40K we will lose a lot of that. Look at how GW actually still has to try with AOS ,40K they don't have to no more and it shows in both the current edition and their newer model ranges.
@@ConfessionGang AoS sorta sits in a weird spot right now. Its sales are alright, and in terms of the actual game, it's currently a better version of 40k - not to mention the fact that both the best and worst designers seem to have shifted over to AoS. That being said, you'd be hard pressed to find people who care about the fluff - which is a consequence of its inception and poses a pretty big problem for the IP moving forward. GW is a weird company, in the sense that they are as much a creative writing company as they are a model company. The lore of their settings creates the justification for everything else they do. If GW mishandles or dismantles the lore of their settings they risk losing the emotional investment of their consumer base. While the looseness of AoS allows its designers to run wild, for better or worse, it comes at the cost of the connective tissue of the property.
The shocking part is that GW themselves are turning down the scripts for the show. They are not based in the slightest, but maybe they still can recognize complete slop that would fail
I hope for its cancellation! 40k’s lack of popularity has been a hidden blessing. Going mainstream would completely water down the lore, much like TLoTR, Halo and countless other franchises. The tourists with their normie understanding, would demand sanitized changes, making it more "inclusive" and "accessible." The grim atmosphere would pale, complex characters replaced by cookie-cutter heroes. 40k’s darkness and complexity, its soul, would be lost for instant gratification and bland narratives. So yes, I desperately hope it gets canceled. Mainstreaming would hollow out a once-great franchise.
Sorry but the halo show failing had nothing to do with being inclusive or accessible, it failed because it was not lore accurate as well as being poorly written cringe, the writing was so bad that it was more akin to straight to dvd garbage made by amateurs. You can have a female character if A it doesn’t clash with the lore and B if the character is written well and is interesting, same with every other possible human variation be it gay, black or whatever. The halo show did nothing right and was just basic brain rot garbage that mindless people would consume to pass time. One thing I would like to state is that if people can’t watch a show because it has a gay person or black person even if they are well written and don’t conflict with the lore then you are a baby and you need to grow up, not you directly just the people who think like that.
@@Archmagos_Faber you're not wrong, but dei/woke have shoehorned activist woke cr@p down our throats for 7 years with no semblance of quality or good storytelling, i have yet to see anything from the woke activist directors that could even remotely entertain me.
@@Octaviu5 hey don't be so touchy. While I agree with that sentiment it is not always possible, In terms of businesses' they won't as much profit which means getting more viewers and the easiest way to do that is to water down the lore, Its not a good thing but its just how it is these days. Would you say you are a purist? me personally I am willing to accept somethings but not others in exchange for a good entertaining show/ movie.
I can imagine 99% of this is they want to make the Emperor the Orange Man and have him screaming "Make the Imperium Great Again." They sure did it to Homelander.
The absolute refusal of script writers to do even a basic level of research is astounding. You would think they would want to show they can do the job, make a name for themselves so other companies want to hire them, get paid more and be successful, but no, they consistently refuse to do research on the topic about which they are being paid to write.
I know, they were offered sisters.of silence too, but apparently a silent female didn't jive with their agenda. Never mind the fact that sister of silencencan have novitiate sisters speak for a full battle sister, kr they could have written in someone akin to eisenhorns love interest, make her a warrior from.a higj grav world and have an inquisitor force the mechanicum to create artificer power armour for her......or hint she is one of fabius biles "new men" problem solved
Or Sandy Mitchell. Just adapt a Ciaphas Cain novel. Besides, they'll get three good strong female characters as well: Amberley Vail, Jenit Sulla, and Colonel Kasteen.
This would mean the theory that GW created female Custodes to prevent female space marines was for nothing. Hilarious if true. Should've just stuck to the source material and avoided the hickup.
Only good things to come from Amazon so far have Jeramy Clarkson involved… Now I want to see James May as a techpriest. Clarkson could be a White Scar, and for Irony Hammond is a Ogryn.
That would be the funniest thing, best thing, and I would fucking die having to see Clarkson and May stop up to have a discussion on the merits of the Leeman Russ versus the Chimera for their current assignment!
What makes ZERO sense is GW holds ALL the cards. With Marvel, Star wars et al being non players, Warhammer is/was poised to absolutely OWN TV and the big screen. Warhammer is compelling, it is downright addicting. And with it's monstrous catalog of backstory and lore, how does it miss? This Giant void left by DEI was waiting to be filled (pun intended) by GW's massive man-sized gun! GW holds the cards. Let it expire. Keep Cavill in the driver's seat. My guess is Warner is some other studio will play ball and the biggest thing since End Game will be on our screens. GW, YOU HOLD THE CARDS!
The Ragnar Blackmaneseries would be good. He starts as a feral tribesman so we learn about the universe as he does Plus it has a great opening. A Viking raid on a village is interrupted by a man in power armor that’s a great hook
I don't want HR Karen's fanfiction about her "super awesome and totally original girlboss" that exists apropos of nothing in the lore and single handedly saves the galaxy from all its problems all at the same time for no reason other than she's "ah wahman!"
You do realise powerful girlbosses are very common in the lore, right? Euphrati keeler, amberly vale, spinoza, tona criid, etc. Warhammer 40k was woke and inclusive way before it was cool.
omg please, the idea of a tales from the crypt style 40k show with trayzen being the show runner showing off some of his amusing or horrifying moments in time he has collected. that could be a decently long running series if done right.
My pitch. 40k: only human Ep 1: Open with brief timeline of the unification to the Horus heresy. Then lay into the siege of Terra and the tale of the man who stood up to Horus. End with Big E being put on Throne. All other episodes being individual tales being the stories of HUMANS. No astartes+ Characters.
Only if the history exposition is told like a fable. Broad strokes, deliberately vague on details, unconcerned with nuance. Because that's what normal people know in 40K, the foundational mythology, a struggle of demi-gods packed with metaphors, too fantastical to seem real. Preserve the mystique as much as possible, because you should never meet your heroes.
Malcador, just a human. Olanius Pious, just a human. COMMISAR SEBASTIAN FUCKING YARRIK, only human. The story of Kreig, 100% human start to finish. The Ogryn? Still just human. The cult mechanicus? Insane humans. Assassinorum? Killed a primarch... still only human. 95% of 40k lore has nothing to do with astartes. GW constantly forgets that.
You gotta start with something simple that's not burdensome to animate. Space Marine 1 and Astartes are good examples. Best way to introduce the audience to the universe is to start at the fringes. Proposed series name: Rogue Trader Ep1: begin on a civilized world. Protagonist is the son of the planetary governor and receives a Warrant of Trade from a menial servant of the inquisition by the end of the episode Ep2: a young girl is a twin and when she is married off, her sister begins to get into trouble as she develops psychic abilities. Turns out the first sister was a blank/null. When the sisters of Silence arrive, they induct both into the order due to the fists refusal unless she can be with her sister Ep3: a cornfed farmboy is met by a large stranger at night and fight scene ensues, he is knocked out and when he comes to, he is facing the qualification trials of a space marine aspirant. Ep4: time jump. Rogue Trader has a retinue of an eversor assassin, an ork brainboy, a T'au from the farsight enclave, and a Catachan veteran. From this episode onward, develop the plot to encounter the other characters in a plausible way such as their need to all find and neutralize a dangerous unsanctioned psyker, and things go sideways and they use each other to succeed/escape by the end of the first season. Climax could be a space Marine Regiment and sisters of battle dropping on a world to suppress a demonic incursion or tyranid invasion and rescuing the main characters, elevating the complexity of the plot for the next season
I would dare anyone uninitiated in 40k to pick any 40k book and try to figure out what the feck is going on. This is the main problem as Amazon execs won't have a clue and need to get as many on board at the very start.
My girlfriend just finished "The Infinite and The Divine" and she made it through with an understanding. She asked a few questions and had to Google a few units, but she understood it. So I can't imagine someone getting paid could certainly do it.
Given Amazon's track record with original shows and adaptations, especially Fallout and Rangz of Po-WAH, I'd rather 40K be cancelled than roll the dice on it being good.
On an optimistic note for the Old (Reiks)Guard: GW is offering Warhammer Fantasy as their second major IP to bring to series and the big screen. They have also reported much better sales of Old World than they expected (despite rumored internal sabotage), and Warhammer Total War is still a success, despite the poor start of the third installment. Add to this the leaks about poor sales of the new edition of AOS starter set, the failure of its video games, and the clamor among fans to be allowed to use AOS miniatures in Old World that are upgrades of classic WFB units... what I see clearly in the Emperor's Tarot is that in the long term AOS will periodically take a backseat and OW will take its place. Mark my words. If AOS was as good a setting as its apologists and tourists say... why hasn't GW sold the rights to Amazon? On paper it would be a very attractive offer, because AOS is a multiverse very close to American fantasy, much more similar to modern D&D than any other GW setting. In addition, it is a much more open and "diverse" setting that would give creative freedom to Amazon to do whatever it wanted. Maybe the answer is that while it can be a fun game (I don't deny that), as a setting it is not as attractive as Fantasy, Heresy and 40k... And after almost a decade of life, the fact that it hasn't been around for long is not an excuse for it not to have good lore.
The weirdest thing about the rings of power show is...their girl boss main character galadriel is NOT strong...because she is 5000 years old and should be one of the most powerful beings in middle Earth. Tolkien wrote Galadriel as the embodiment of a pure and wise feminine ideal. Her husband was a literal hero among heroes and he was her backup. Amazon nerfed her to about 1% her true power...she is not a girl boss in rings of power.
Given the way the economy is going, and the way the tabletop gaming industry is going... Amazon might be swooping in to buy GW part and parcel in the next 5-10 years.
Gate Keep. Don't Star Wars 40K. The only way a TV series would work is if it was a horror/suspense/noir focused on an Imperial investigator trying to get to the bottom of a planetary conspiracy and potential heresy. Is it Chaos? Genesteeler? Who to trust?
Amazon writers can't write. This is simply the inevitable when you have people that want to write their own fanfic as canon. The writers are probably trying to do what they do (screw it up).
Henry: "Take seventy... Alright lets see what you've got." Amazon: "Alright so series intro is you have some space marines looking down at a burning city, the camera pulls in on the squad leader as she--" Henry: **Slams fist into table** "DAMN IT!" Amazon: "I'll get you one of these days!" **Hisses in submissive vermin, scurries away trailing feces from interactive Bezos buttplug**
The reason they cannot come up with anything because as soon as they release any kind of material, they will get sued into oblivion because GW ripped off every other franchise
Ill do you one worse. Erda gets reincarnated and posessed by the god form of the Emperor. Grats we now have the Big E in play for the Amazon 40k Universe, and hes a chick.
If it's going to be woke garbage with equal representation in every scene of the show/movie, then I'm all for it being cancelled, because that's not Warhammer.
You know, if youd actually read the lore and books youd know wh40k is fairly well represented inthe "girlbosses" and "woke" department. And has been long before woke was "cool".
THIS IS GOOD NEWS! Scrap it all! The time is not right. Wait until AI is mature enough so they can make a $300M series in house for maybe $30M instead. And without forced DEI.
We all knew this would happen. The memes we all saw immediately after the announcement originally was Writer "so I had a thought about space marines." Cavil: *places gun on the table* "...go on..." And shit like that.
@@coltonlong7562not anymore this taos gets better with each edition. plus we have more interesting models,plus GW still have to try with AOS unlike 40K
It takes true skill struggle to write an already established franchise with over 1000 different characters you can choose from, a vast history of thousands of years stories worth of material.
40k could easily be diverse too. Theres nothing stopping various races from representing various chapters. Like it would be cool if Ultramarines were white, thousand sons were indian, salamanders black, and such. It would fit DEI bullshit perfectly.
How hard is it to write a War of Unification story. It's perfect for a palace intrigue story following a war lord who is trying to figure out if they want to peaceably join or fight the Emperor.
This is good news in my book. There is no way shape or form they can write 40K faithfully and at the same time check all the boxes of their corporate overlords, so nothing at all is much better than Rings of Power in space 😂
Of course they can not. Every faction is depraved beyond salvation and can not be painted in any good light. Not even an ork waaagh could bend reality THAT much.
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Caville deserves better than Amazon
Yeah. I really hope this show is cancelled. I was waiting this for so long, was super hyped when heard Henry will be onboard and then woke cancer happened.... Its better for everyone and its clear that they won't do good show even when they could.
Seriously, just adapt that comic with that black templars life story and you got a great story that explains a major part of the setting.
He does
given how fucking good he looked as wolverine in his deadpool movie cameo he still has another shot to be a superhero we need
Caville deserves to be born in a better era altogether. The current industry doesn't deserve him.
As Tolkien said - once you break internal rules of your fantasy world - the magic is gone, illusion is broken.
yes and we all accept his books and the film trilogy over what Amazon is doing....they break nothing! and can do no harm is we refuse to partake in their nonsense so keep resisting and rejecting it!
And wokies are destroying beloved franchises on purpose... To demoralise us, normal people.
This is something modern audiences and writers dont seem to understand. Just because its fiction, doesnt mean there aren’t rules and logic to it. If anything can happen in your story, then there are no stakes.
@@rhyslightning3037 Correct, if anything can happen in a fictional story, nothing that happens in it matters.
So..... with 350 WH40K books with 60 different writers, Amazon clowns can't write a single episode? Why am I not surprised. Fire your current writing staff Amazon and hire Non-DEI writers who know what they are doing.
No doubt! Take any one of the comics, use it as a story board and print money. Easiest win in human history.
@@arbhall7572 Except for that one Calgar Comic; that one was dirt.
It's not that they "can't" write a script. It's that they can't write a script without a girl boss.
Oh I'm sure they've written plenty of scripts... None of them just have been good enough.
they can't write something that would satisfy the De Ai Ei rules and still feels 40k
They had 40k, they had Cavill, all they had to do was press the print money button to win, instead Amazon decided the button needed to be inclusive.
they have been smashing that button since the start
It's like: "We can make a lot of money with this... But why not take some more of blackrock's money right now rather than waiting for this to be profitable on it's own" Greed is the problem and they deserve to fail.
If they need money they always can squeeze their warehouse workers more.
They've chosen the ideology to brainwash population with and they want that political power.
@@8Aerondight8Short sighted, Present Value greed is the problem. Although greed is generally a problem, this particular type is an even greater one that sacrifices quality and soul for a short term gain that ultimately culminates in the destruction of all potential profit.
Hell! If they didn't want to do Custodes (which they made female, no I won't believe that is was coincidence) they could have made him Caiphis Cain. All the "hot" scene with Amberly they can add in for gratuitousness, use uncanny CGI for chaos and Necrons to show how out of place and disturbing they can be, have their strong wamyn (cake) and beef cake dudes(and eat it) too. Henry Cavill as Cain would have been THE best WH40k adaptation.
But no, let's ruin the custodes because dark mineral and woke money says so.
No Phillip you cannot write a story where the Emperor of Mankind has a golden Gucci handbag placed at the side of his throne.
It would end up being HER throne, THEM/THEYs throne or ZIM/ZERBs throne.
In the far-long future of the 41st millennium there is only my fly handbag😂
That would honestly the be the least of their heresies.
@@johnpk5831 I've actually seen this one already. Was in a discord community that went nuclear over "the emperor is non-binary coded". Due to the fact one of the old stories for the emperor's origin was that he is the creation of a bunch of old school psykers melding their powers together to reincarnate into a single being.
People will look for any excuse nowadays. Don't even understand it anymore
Knowing the shit that’s in the Dark Cells, he absolutely does have a gucci handbag somewhere
How on earth does Cavill stagger from one shitshow to another? It's criminal. The man deserves better.
Because the studios think they can use him as nothing more than a lure. They get to write whatever subversive tripe they want, and Cavill gets us all to watch it. Not gonna happen.
it's cus the entertainment industry across all departments decided to shit the bed!
music, movies, comics, TV, games & books....
art....sculptures, paintings that sort has always somewhat been the realm of the fruity, not 100% but probably 60% fruity cus you kinda got to be a little bit fruit to be an artist! hey, it is what it is, I don't make the rules!
Cavill defends fans and cannon for the projects he is a part of. This is a HUGE problem for showrunners who like to use established IP's to push their terrible writing under a well-known brand.
Monkey's paw wishes. There's no other possible explanation.
they are throwing an all out offensive on nerdom after gamer gate
Please let this get canceled. The horrendous halo show got canceled and this 40k corporate HR fan fiction would be no different.
Yes better to be canceled "pure" then become a corrupted monster of amazon.
Corpate HR fanfiction had me rolling
I don’t think it’s that simple. If anything, there’s always going to be a corruption of 40k since Games Workshop is corporate woke.
I hope it doesn't get cancelled because Amazon will loose more money
The Halo showrunners admitted (boasted, even) that they'd never even 'looked at' the games and didn't want to be 'hampered' by them. Compared to those guys, Cavil is the ideal one to be running the show. He's very knowledgable and passionate about the IP going back years.
We could make it lame and gay.
Henry Cavill: No.
Well we're going to have to completely rewrite this then.
Here, it's even more lame and gay.
Henry Cavill: No.
WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US HENRY! WE'VE MADE IT AS LAME AND GAY AS POSSIBLE!
Henry Cavill: Make it not lame and gay.
Okay I guess we'll just cancel this because it's impossible to write.
lol
Why do you weirdos obsess over shit being gay? News flash the Emperor does not give a flying fuck who you sleep with.
My Boy Cavill refuses to be Gae for pay.
he don't need their 20$
I wouldn't be gay for pay either.....that's illegal! that'd make one a Gigalo! you know, male prostitute? eh
If he walks and tells the fans the project is a sh!tshow, it'll be the kiss of death. Even if he just says "I'm no longer part of the project, and my NDA forbids me from discussing the matter further," it'll be nearly as damaging.
Cinema and TV is now littered with the corpses of high-profile sci-fi and fantasy failures. The fandom is hyper-aware of the cultural war and the destruction of franchises. It would take incredible depths of denial and delusion to think the project could be anything but a flop at that point.
lol
When you're such a big nerd that you care more about making the show accurate than about getting the amazon ESG check.
Amazon couldn’t copy Tolkien’s homework and write fan fiction. Are we really surprised they can’t write Grimdark?
It's not that Amazon can't write Grimdark, but that they won't. And yeah, anything that Amazon writes would be watered down trash any way.
They have the money to hire the people who can. There are a group of people in the Amazon Chain of command who will interfere in the creative process regardless if they hired good writers. These people are woke/DEI/Sweet Baby Inc(or whatever name is popular these days) hires who need to prove that they are worth hiring so they fuck with everything else trying to justify the cost of Amazon hiring them, unintentionally losing them money in the process.
This is not a conspiracy or some malevolent planning/coordination by a higher power. No, this is a group of incompetent people hiring another group incompetent people(it's simple as that). They will keep burning money until their stakeholders have had enough. This will take years and years. Its only now people are take notice of it.
@@covenant_05 that is just it. This was never a question of finances. It is a question of hiring the write people. Personally unless it’s a Halloween makeup company anyone with pink, blue, or green hair, septum piercings, or who makes introductions with pronouns should never be allowed near a “writing room”. Problem is Amazon sees all of the above as job qualifications.
@@elizabethyoung5304 Amazon can totally write grimdark, they just need to ask one of their warehouse employees to write down their daily schedule.
Ofc Amazon can't write a 40k show, they can't write anything other than the message, how is this unexpected in any way?
The Message™
They can make Slaanesh show maybe?😂
@@Rabarbarzynca But they have to make Slaanesh one of the ''good guys'' and oppressed
@@Kross415 Well, aren’t they? They have whole weight of the Imperium and Inquisiton chasing them. Amazon can unironically make chaos cult protagonists of the show. Hell, it would probably work better then see them struggle with imperial „good guys” of 40k. ;)
@@Rabarbarzynca A lot can work if it's well written but I highly doubt they can write anything other than the cheap stereotipical stuff we've been suffering for years.
Roboute falls to one knee before the Throne removing the cuirass, thus revealing the secret 'trans' surgeries, and 'she' cries "Look at me now Father for i am a strong independent woman who don't need no man!" - Amazon script probably.
OMG>>>>NO! Just NO! Space Marines are "transhuman" not "transexual" There's a difference. Roboute Guilliman is one of my favorite characters in all of 40K. if Amazon would ever do that to him, I will flipping sue them for character assassination!
@@elizabethyoung5304Primarchs aren't Space Marines. They are Primarchs.
@@elizabethyoung5304 here a thought but maybe people seeing the world trans. they think it mean the same?
🤮🤮🤮
Bro just admit you want a trans girlfriend already instead of acting like this on the internet
When Amazon submitted their initial draft for the script, it was just 127 pages splattered with feces.
So it was their best attempt yet ?
TP from their bunghole doesn't count!
Is that a TTS reference?
Aha so you say they ware Nurgle posting, nice.
TTS Typhus' book series part 3
How to write Warhammer
Everything is shit
Our heroes are fighting to make things less shit for them
Our heroes may or may not make things less shit for themselves but a lot of people are going to die while they try.
"A million people died today to fuel a lighthouse bulb."
@@DASRH "The lightbulb turned out to be the only thing holding back billions of demons, those billions of demons would of destroyed the galaxy a long time ago, but they are like moths to said lightbulb."
You can't even have a damn lighthouse without it being a whole damn ordeal in this universe!
It’s for the best it doesn’t come out, if Amazon can retcon the Fallout West Coast lore on a whim then 40K doesn’t have a chance in hell, not to mention it’s because of them that the Tzeench-Custodies were manifested in the first place.
Yup, let it burn as far as I’m concerned.
And with luck, that’ll be the way GW is leaning. Even the most cynical stockholder has to be looking at the gathering storm and saying to himself:
“We need to scale this back”
It’s a good thing that the Custodes event happened; the fandom is now primed to reject any change at this stage
"wANt tO mAkE mY cOcK eXpLoDe nOw"
Shady sands is the bone yard now, right next to a new never before seen unopened vault with nukes.
Let the galaxy burn 🔥
As a 40k fan, I don't want this to come out. And honestly I don't know if if I ever want to see a space marine in a live action series. If you make a 40k series, keep it about regular humans with the space marines as distant demigods. It is true to how rare they are, and I honestly doubt that any live action depiction of a space marine would ever live up to peoples imagination.
We already had live action Space Marines; In the Game Final Liberation.
Really? Just follow what the video games have done. People seem more than satisfied with those. Obviously doesn't apply to current day.
With the caveat that in the season finale some space marines show up and show how awesome they are before they leave. Their presence rare and spoken of as a myth.
Astartes.
Though that wasn't live action, more like a short movie.
But it can be done, clearly. They just won't/can't do it.
@@MarkAndrewEdwards Astartes was a project of passion, and no matter how much money these Corporations slap on something it won't replace what passion can do.
Imagine struggling to write something with an IP that has that much lore and books around it.
But i get it; It's really difficult to find a way to make a universe that's only about war about the rainbow mafia.
That's because they cant *READ* lmao. I doubt they would even touch 1% of the books and just look at memes.
@@bakuya99 Reminds me how i recently had a 'discussion' with someone who thought that Guilliman was actually married to Yvraine who also claimed that 'No trust me, i've been a big fan of 40k for years and i think progressive stuff is fine and you shouldn't gate keep!'
What's the current term? Anti-Fan? Tourist?
We have this story about black female inquisitor badass, but she execute her lover, because a demon trick her to think the lover was him in disguise, and now how she travel the galaxy to destroy the demon. What can you not love she is black, lesbian, and is disable (cybernetic limb)
Did you say the demon trick here? Yes. Scrap that part, a woman can not be tricked. But then the story do not work. Not my problem.
Just do a story on the emperor's children.
@@Karaksonen oh yea I hate These people.
Sisters of Battle and Silence are just chopped liver apparently
Yup....
Sisters of battle are too religious, and commies hate religion, and sisters of silence are misogynist because a man told them to shut up
They don't yap like crazies of today...
Any display of religious belief that doesn't mock Christianity is a big ick for studio executives.
What if one of the idiots in the audience got the impression that holding sincere religious beliefs isn't bad?
@@tyrannosaurusimperator Sure, but unironically, the WH40K universe has the perfect setup in the destruction of all other religions, and a false god put it its place, while at the same time has commentary on what beliefs actually mean? You'd think that would be candy to a certain type of "current day writer"?
Oh no, Amazon might not spend hundreds of millions to make a failing TV show.
No, that's not the situation here. They have already spent countless millions in an attempt to make a show and failing before getting past first draft.
@@colinstewart3531 Well, I guess I would hope they continue to flush some more money down the toilet and then cancel it so they don't even reduce their losses.
@@Knowbody42I would hope they get into a hyenas situation where the final product is so bad it has to be scrapped and the company just eats the loss.
Amazon doesn't understand the War40k fanbase. They don't suffer fools and they are the only ones that matter. Nobody else will watch
You know what i think is happening? Amazon is trying to force Henry to ruin Warhammer's lore for their show but he won't do it and would rather have it canceled then have it ruined. At least Henry is willing to defend the Warhammer IP and its lore unlike GW.
It sucks living during the downfall of a civilization.
Thanks boomers
@@cosmictreason2242 boomers didn't force you into a tiny overpriced apartment box where you glue yourself to digital media because going outside will get you addicted the fentanyl. boomers have largely been sitting out these past few decades because, you know; they're dead. If you want to see the source of your problem, meditate on the reflection in the sidewalk urine puddle.
thanks !!!
@@iphatbass Thanks Draupadi Murmu!!!
If they want a strong women that can talk, just toss in an inquisitor or guardsman.
there is also Inquisitor or was it Guard commander Valerya in a Ciaphas Cain book iirc
@@Ozzystrayroo She was an Inquisitor.
Seriously if they want their girlboss just make an Inquisitor. No one in their right mind would backtalk an Inquisitor in-universe AND Inquisitors also get cool power armor like Space Marines. They even get to show their face and can wear whatever weird progressive coded hairstyle and color they want because again, who in their right mind would backtalk the Emperor's own secret police outside another Inquisitor?
Or just go with a sister of battle
@@graveyardshift6691 To be fair there are a lot of "tough girl" inquisitors in the books. None of them I am familiar with are well written.
My navigator waifu cassia is on the case
Lets ask the Librarian from Dawn of war
"Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment"
Well said, damm Dawn of ear Movie would be cool
"An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded."
"My Spleen!!" - Chaos Cultist; "Even in Death I still Serve" - Dreadnaught. Wouldn't even need to write new Music.
I've always said that I would rather the amazon show never happen than let it rot and corrupt Warhammer 40k with its evil as it did The Lord of the Rings. Looks like what I said is coming into being.
It's social engineering; people like Soros and Prince want to attack and destroy all the childish things holding back adult males because after a boy puts away his toys he usually picks up something productive and manly to replace the hobby. Those who accept the abuse of their franchise are often those who will accept abuse over any facet of their life, so win win for the elite's new imaginary society. On paper it sounds as good as communism, in practice it is as god awful as communism.
CANCEL IT NOW. NO FREEDOM TO WRITE A PROPER LORE ACCURATE SCRIPT = NO SHOW
So GW strangles all the fan animation to "save their IP" and may be wholeselling it to Amazon in turns. Welp, they never seemed to be particularly smart ones, werent they?
ahhhhh the irony is sweet like honey
Insert joke about Trazyn stealing the script here.
Trazyn is a hero
Or just release genestealers to amazon office for funsies.
But it would be animal cruelty to genestealers... all the missing chromosomes.
And here i thought, necron don't need TP. The more you know :D
Amazon and Sigmarxism seems like a perfect match lol.
They can't take Cavill seriously: he dated Ginna Carano back then, the glorious bastard...
He did? Here's me thinking he couldn't get cooler.
Glorious, yes, but definitely hard-working.
Let them scrap it , i dont whanna see black female space marines and trans kids guardsman anyway
The 40k universe is too masculine to be created in today's "modern" age. Caville is the only one that might be able to do this, but I doubt amazon or GW could.
Emperor Protect Wh40k from the chaos band of Amazon
Band of Slanesh
Amazon refuses to fire the "Agitators" from the writing staff is my bet.
Dodged a bolter round, let it drift slowly away into the void.
Amazon is Fulgrim and Henry is Rylanor
Henry is the Emperor, making dark pacts with the chaos gods and nothing more. Amazon is a company that genuinely believes "If a song gets stuck in your head, then it obviously is a good song." but by the same logic, in Amazon's eyes the holocaust was a great thing for jews.
If Amazon made Ciaphas Cain into a show I guarantee that there would be employees that would be pushing to make Lt. Sulla into the main character instead of Cain and Jurgen and not the Colonel as she "does not get too much action".
It's important to remember that if Amazon does end up making a 40k show, much like the Fallout show before it, it will not be for the fans of the property. The Amazon show will be for otherwise uninterested people who they can bait in with the misplaced hype of less discerning fans and a novel aesthetic.
There's no reason for Amazon to really adapt a preexisting story because it'll interfere with their ability to tell "THEIR" story. Even if they do ultimately adapt an existing story, the likelihood of it being twisted beyond recognition are not insignificant.
PS: curious side note, but I wonder what they mean when they talk about getting the rights to Fantasy. Do they mean Fantasy proper, or do they mean AoS.
Personally I think it's the latter, which is kind of telling about the wider perceptions surrounding AoS as a setting - ie zero brand recognition or awareness.
As an AOS only player I really hope AOS stays on the down low because we get awesome models and cool and interesting rules/ armies and if AOS blows up like 40K we will lose a lot of that. Look at how GW actually still has to try with AOS ,40K they don't have to no more and it shows in both the current edition and their newer model ranges.
@@ConfessionGang AoS sorta sits in a weird spot right now. Its sales are alright, and in terms of the actual game, it's currently a better version of 40k - not to mention the fact that both the best and worst designers seem to have shifted over to AoS. That being said, you'd be hard pressed to find people who care about the fluff - which is a consequence of its inception and poses a pretty big problem for the IP moving forward.
GW is a weird company, in the sense that they are as much a creative writing company as they are a model company. The lore of their settings creates the justification for everything else they do. If GW mishandles or dismantles the lore of their settings they risk losing the emotional investment of their consumer base. While the looseness of AoS allows its designers to run wild, for better or worse, it comes at the cost of the connective tissue of the property.
The shocking part is that GW themselves are turning down the scripts for the show. They are not based in the slightest, but maybe they still can recognize complete slop that would fail
I hope for its cancellation! 40k’s lack of popularity has been a hidden blessing. Going mainstream would completely water down the lore, much like TLoTR, Halo and countless other franchises. The tourists with their normie understanding, would demand sanitized changes, making it more "inclusive" and "accessible." The grim atmosphere would pale, complex characters replaced by cookie-cutter heroes. 40k’s darkness and complexity, its soul, would be lost for instant gratification and bland narratives. So yes, I desperately hope it gets canceled. Mainstreaming would hollow out a once-great franchise.
Sorry but the halo show failing had nothing to do with being inclusive or accessible, it failed because it was not lore accurate as well as being poorly written cringe, the writing was so bad that it was more akin to straight to dvd garbage made by amateurs. You can have a female character if A it doesn’t clash with the lore and B if the character is written well and is interesting, same with every other possible human variation be it gay, black or whatever. The halo show did nothing right and was just basic brain rot garbage that mindless people would consume to pass time. One thing I would like to state is that if people can’t watch a show because it has a gay person or black person even if they are well written and don’t conflict with the lore then you are a baby and you need to grow up, not you directly just the people who think like that.
@@Archmagos_Faber you're not wrong, but dei/woke have shoehorned activist woke cr@p down our throats for 7 years with no semblance of quality or good storytelling, i have yet to see anything from the woke activist directors that could even remotely entertain me.
@@Archmagos_Faber
I’m talking about the watering down of the lore after something becomes popular, genius.
@@Octaviu5 hey don't be so touchy. While I agree with that sentiment it is not always possible, In terms of businesses' they won't as much profit which means getting more viewers and the easiest way to do that is to water down the lore, Its not a good thing but its just how it is these days. Would you say you are a purist? me personally I am willing to accept somethings but not others in exchange for a good entertaining show/ movie.
You do realise wh40k is probably the most inclusive and woke franchise of all time, right?
Modern corporations seem allergic to talent.
Why the hell did GW approach Amazon instead of FX? FX would have let them do what ever the hell they want because they just want money.
I can imagine 99% of this is they want to make the Emperor the Orange Man and have him screaming "Make the Imperium Great Again."
They sure did it to Homelander.
I sincerely hope there is never a mainstream 40k show. I don't have any hope they could do it correctly.
It’s like people forget Sisters of Battle exist. There are also female inquisitors like Amberley Vail
The absolute refusal of script writers to do even a basic level of research is astounding.
You would think they would want to show they can do the job, make a name for themselves so other companies want to hire them, get paid more and be successful, but no, they consistently refuse to do research on the topic about which they are being paid to write.
Amazon to fans: "Fine! If I can't have my way, you can't have yours either..."
That's what I'm seeing.
Sisters of Battle were "too religious" Amazon needs to force Female Space Marines in.
I know, they were offered sisters.of silence too, but apparently a silent female didn't jive with their agenda. Never mind the fact that sister of silencencan have novitiate sisters speak for a full battle sister, kr they could have written in someone akin to eisenhorns love interest, make her a warrior from.a higj grav world and have an inquisitor force the mechanicum to create artificer power armour for her......or hint she is one of fabius biles "new men" problem solved
They should hire Dan Abnett. But they won't.
Amazon would rather scrap the whole project than make a true-to-lore Warhamer 40k show.
Abnett is woke af, not to mention he's anything but true to lore
Funny, because lots of Black Library writers are british wokeeist
Or Sandy Mitchell. Just adapt a Ciaphas Cain novel. Besides, they'll get three good strong female characters as well: Amberley Vail, Jenit Sulla, and Colonel Kasteen.
@@BrandelwynI don't think I believe that but then again I haven't read any recent stuff but just his older Horus Heresy series work.
@@elizabethyoung5304 he created Erda, dude
What Amazon plans on doing to the IP will do more damage than any 3D printers could ever do.
Corrupted by Erebusia and her Erebussy.
But the shit be grippin...
The void of inexistence is better than corruption.
You mean we wont get a female tau inquisitor telling the ultrasmurfs to do better?
lol yeah it's joever- they won't make it grimdark, canon so Cavill will be unhappy and it's better to scrap it than be woke
Everyone knows Halo, and it still got ruined
Not everyone knows 40K, if it's ruined here, it'll be the death of its mainstream growth.
This would mean the theory that GW created female Custodes to prevent female space marines was for nothing. Hilarious if true. Should've just stuck to the source material and avoided the hickup.
Only good things to come from Amazon so far have Jeramy Clarkson involved… Now I want to see James May as a techpriest. Clarkson could be a White Scar, and for Irony Hammond is a Ogryn.
That would be the funniest thing, best thing, and I would fucking die having to see Clarkson and May stop up to have a discussion on the merits of the Leeman Russ versus the Chimera for their current assignment!
*Clarkson* "I made a few modifications, to my chimeara."
*Hammond* "Does it have potatoes"
*May* "Confused mentally challenged binairic screeching"
They can't figure out how to make the aliens black
Waaaaaagh!
I mean orks love to steal and kill people, seems like a dead ringer.
What makes ZERO sense is GW holds ALL the cards. With Marvel, Star wars et al being non players, Warhammer is/was poised to absolutely OWN TV and the big screen. Warhammer is compelling, it is downright addicting. And with it's monstrous catalog of backstory and lore, how does it miss? This Giant void left by DEI was waiting to be filled (pun intended) by GW's massive man-sized gun!
GW holds the cards. Let it expire. Keep Cavill in the driver's seat. My guess is Warner is some other studio will play ball and the biggest thing since End Game will be on our screens.
GW, YOU HOLD THE CARDS!
Warhammer has 200 published books…just pick one
they need to adapt them "for the modern audience", you know
The Ragnar Blackmaneseries would be good. He starts as a feral tribesman so we learn about the universe as he does
Plus it has a great opening. A Viking raid on a village is interrupted by a man in power armor that’s a great hook
@joehonan1773 first scene: a fenrisian Axe burrying itself in a skull and sound of battle. how better to open up in a universe like that
I don't want HR Karen's fanfiction about her "super awesome and totally original girlboss" that exists apropos of nothing in the lore and single handedly saves the galaxy from all its problems all at the same time for no reason other than she's "ah wahman!"
You do realise powerful girlbosses are very common in the lore, right?
Euphrati keeler, amberly vale, spinoza, tona criid, etc.
Warhammer 40k was woke and inclusive way before it was cool.
omg please, the idea of a tales from the crypt style 40k show with trayzen being the show runner showing off some of his amusing or horrifying moments in time he has collected. that could be a decently long running series if done right.
No.
Thats a fun idea, but the budget would be wild, unless you wanted it to look like Dr who
I wonder if making an anime adaptation of 40k with Cavell would be interesting more than an Amazon.
My pitch.
40k: only human
Ep 1:
Open with brief timeline of the unification to the Horus heresy. Then lay into the siege of Terra and the tale of the man who stood up to Horus. End with Big E being put on Throne.
All other episodes being individual tales being the stories of HUMANS. No astartes+ Characters.
Only if the history exposition is told like a fable. Broad strokes, deliberately vague on details, unconcerned with nuance. Because that's what normal people know in 40K, the foundational mythology, a struggle of demi-gods packed with metaphors, too fantastical to seem real. Preserve the mystique as much as possible, because you should never meet your heroes.
Or just go with an Eisenhorn adaptation. I'd prefer they don't touch the foundational lore like HH.
@@chrisw7047 nah go watch Star Wars or star trek we dont come to 40k for humans only we come for more this is dumb my guy and likely to get zero money
Malcador, just a human.
Olanius Pious, just a human.
COMMISAR SEBASTIAN FUCKING YARRIK, only human.
The story of Kreig, 100% human start to finish.
The Ogryn? Still just human.
The cult mechanicus? Insane humans.
Assassinorum? Killed a primarch... still only human.
95% of 40k lore has nothing to do with astartes. GW constantly forgets that.
You gotta start with something simple that's not burdensome to animate. Space Marine 1 and Astartes are good examples. Best way to introduce the audience to the universe is to start at the fringes.
Proposed series name: Rogue Trader
Ep1: begin on a civilized world. Protagonist is the son of the planetary governor and receives a Warrant of Trade from a menial servant of the inquisition by the end of the episode
Ep2: a young girl is a twin and when she is married off, her sister begins to get into trouble as she develops psychic abilities. Turns out the first sister was a blank/null. When the sisters of Silence arrive, they induct both into the order due to the fists refusal unless she can be with her sister
Ep3: a cornfed farmboy is met by a large stranger at night and fight scene ensues, he is knocked out and when he comes to, he is facing the qualification trials of a space marine aspirant.
Ep4: time jump. Rogue Trader has a retinue of an eversor assassin, an ork brainboy, a T'au from the farsight enclave, and a Catachan veteran. From this episode onward, develop the plot to encounter the other characters in a plausible way such as their need to all find and neutralize a dangerous unsanctioned psyker, and things go sideways and they use each other to succeed/escape by the end of the first season. Climax could be a space Marine Regiment and sisters of battle dropping on a world to suppress a demonic incursion or tyranid invasion and rescuing the main characters, elevating the complexity of the plot for the next season
I would dare anyone uninitiated in 40k to pick any 40k book and try to figure out what the feck is going on. This is the main problem as Amazon execs won't have a clue and need to get as many on board at the very start.
It's not that hard to do.
@@benjaminbatema6963for normal people, yes...but for these
My girlfriend just finished "The Infinite and The Divine" and she made it through with an understanding. She asked a few questions and had to Google a few units, but she understood it. So I can't imagine someone getting paid could certainly do it.
Let it fail, it would be steaming turd from Amazon anyway.
Maybe Elon can grab it
Given Amazon's track record with original shows and adaptations, especially Fallout and Rangz of Po-WAH, I'd rather 40K be cancelled than roll the dice on it being good.
On an optimistic note for the Old (Reiks)Guard:
GW is offering Warhammer Fantasy as their second major IP to bring to series and the big screen. They have also reported much better sales of Old World than they expected (despite rumored internal sabotage), and Warhammer Total War is still a success, despite the poor start of the third installment.
Add to this the leaks about poor sales of the new edition of AOS starter set, the failure of its video games, and the clamor among fans to be allowed to use AOS miniatures in Old World that are upgrades of classic WFB units... what I see clearly in the Emperor's Tarot is that in the long term AOS will periodically take a backseat and OW will take its place. Mark my words.
If AOS was as good a setting as its apologists and tourists say... why hasn't GW sold the rights to Amazon? On paper it would be a very attractive offer, because AOS is a multiverse very close to American fantasy, much more similar to modern D&D than any other GW setting. In addition, it is a much more open and "diverse" setting that would give creative freedom to Amazon to do whatever it wanted. Maybe the answer is that while it can be a fun game (I don't deny that), as a setting it is not as attractive as Fantasy, Heresy and 40k... And after almost a decade of life, the fact that it hasn't been around for long is not an excuse for it not to have good lore.
They could easily set up lore where it turns out the timeline fractured in two, and have the old world continue and have AOS.
The weirdest thing about the rings of power show is...their girl boss main character galadriel is NOT strong...because she is 5000 years old and should be one of the most powerful beings in middle Earth. Tolkien wrote Galadriel as the embodiment of a pure and wise feminine ideal. Her husband was a literal hero among heroes and he was her backup. Amazon nerfed her to about 1% her true power...she is not a girl boss in rings of power.
Given the way the economy is going, and the way the tabletop gaming industry is going... Amazon might be swooping in to buy GW part and parcel in the next 5-10 years.
Fuuuuuuuck
Thanks the Emperor, we dodged bullet here.
They are never doing a Warhammer Fantasy project. the word "Reik" is far too prevalent lol.
Gate Keep. Don't Star Wars 40K. The only way a TV series would work is if it was a horror/suspense/noir focused on an Imperial investigator trying to get to the bottom of a planetary conspiracy and potential heresy. Is it Chaos? Genesteeler? Who to trust?
Amazon should fire that guy who is forcing BS on the deal.
Amazon writers can't write.
This is simply the inevitable when you have people that want to write their own fanfic as canon. The writers are probably trying to do what they do (screw it up).
Henry: "Take seventy... Alright lets see what you've got."
Amazon: "Alright so series intro is you have some space marines looking down at a burning city, the camera pulls in on the squad leader as she--"
Henry: **Slams fist into table** "DAMN IT!"
Amazon: "I'll get you one of these days!" **Hisses in submissive vermin, scurries away trailing feces from interactive Bezos buttplug**
The reason they cannot come up with anything because as soon as they release any kind of material, they will get sued into oblivion because GW ripped off every other franchise
At this point I hope it gets cancled. With what happened with other amazon shows, GW's own bs, kt's better off left alone.
I honestly think the public failure of 40k to gain a mainstream series would potentially be the well disguised saving grace that the setting needs.
Ill do you one worse. Erda gets reincarnated and posessed by the god form of the Emperor. Grats we now have the Big E in play for the Amazon 40k Universe, and hes a chick.
@@garrettmastantuono8043 Excuse me while I projectile vomit all over my 27-inch monitor.
I am vomit.
I am become vomit, destroyer of tooth enamel.
Average 40k fan can do more in a day than the Amazon writing team can do in a year.
I hope it gets scrapped. It IS going to be another rings of power if it ever releases
Eugh Amazon has shown me that they shouldn't be in charge of writing ANYTHING. Ever. THEY SUCK.
If it's going to be woke garbage with equal representation in every scene of the show/movie, then I'm all for it being cancelled, because that's not Warhammer.
You know, if youd actually read the lore and books youd know wh40k is fairly well represented inthe "girlbosses" and "woke" department. And has been long before woke was "cool".
GW destroyed existing lore causing a schism in the community for an Amazon show that is likely going to be cancelled... business as usual.
Even if they didn't make original content, it sure does take time to mutilate the source material to fit the Wamazon 40k.
Considering how quiet Caville has been I suspect he has already noped out and is quietly trying to distance himself from it.
THIS IS GOOD NEWS! Scrap it all!
The time is not right. Wait until AI is mature enough so they can make a $300M series in house for maybe $30M instead. And without forced DEI.
We all knew this would happen.
The memes we all saw immediately after the announcement originally was
Writer "so I had a thought about space marines."
Cavil: *places gun on the table* "...go on..."
And shit like that.
Love the fact AoS isn't even considered Amazon worthy.
AoS is kinda shite tbf.
As an AOS only player I hope it stays that way
@@coltonlong7562not anymore this taos gets better with each edition. plus we have more interesting models,plus GW still have to try with AOS unlike 40K
It takes true skill struggle to write an already established franchise with over 1000 different characters you can choose from, a vast history of thousands of years stories worth of material.
Imagine choking the golden goose before it can lay a golden egg. 🤦♂️
40k could easily be diverse too. Theres nothing stopping various races from representing various chapters.
Like it would be cool if Ultramarines were white, thousand sons were indian, salamanders black, and such.
It would fit DEI bullshit perfectly.
What GW is hoping is that Anazon straight up buys GW so they can all get fat paychecks and wash their hands of it.
writing for 40k is hard. there's absolutely zero lore and no novels to work with.... ... .... ....
Depending on when in December, they have a minimum of four months. We're in the Eighth Month already.
Couldn't they go for an Severina Raine series?
Lady commisar with agency, an mystery to uncover, fights with chaos and low entry treshold for newbies
How hard is it to write a War of Unification story. It's perfect for a palace intrigue story following a war lord who is trying to figure out if they want to peaceably join or fight the Emperor.
This is good news in my book. There is no way shape or form they can write 40K faithfully and at the same time check all the boxes of their corporate overlords, so nothing at all is much better than Rings of Power in space 😂
Of course they can not. Every faction is depraved beyond salvation and can not be painted in any good light. Not even an ork waaagh could bend reality THAT much.
They don’t want to make a Warhammer show; they want to make space apocalypse product.