@@gundamcollector77 that'd oddly make it more wh40k-ish... now if you want it purely to be grim enough, just say it was made from the bones of hruud who died in screaming agony, then it's definitely dark grim enough.
@@Hawkens4k Why not Hruud who where taken by the Mechanicus to be experimented on and made into a room for the purpose of controlling metabolic rates of organic organisms, all while the Hruud are still alive and screaming in silent agony?
I like to think that lion quite literally just slept, we see that the primarchs are still sorta vulnerable in the head area (leman getting knocked to sleep about 2 times or so) and probably must go catatonic if they managed to drag leman on the emperor's flag ship while he was unconscious, so my theory is that lion got trashed so bad he went for a nap and passed out, his primarchs genes did the rest and forbade him from waking up untill he was fully rested and healed
@@Zakvadr1995 Full shots of 190 proof Everclear. You have to down the entire shot in one go each time he says it. (Don’t try this. You might _actually_ get hurt or worse.)
King Arthur was theorized to be Welsh after all. Also, in that video where Cawl accidently pulls a Tower of Babel, if the Dark Angels showed up DreadAnon would have had about 3 options for the Dark Angels' native tongue: Welsh because of King Arthur's likely ethnicity, Old English because the language of Beowulf was probably concurrent with the time period where Arthur was active, or Shakespearean English because Caliban was named after a character from The Tempest.
@@easonyeung2779 You could throw some plains native American languages into that mix, though modern Dark Angels have mostly abandoned the native American angle.
@@easonyeung2779 Definitely not Old English, the Anglo-Saxons were his nemesis. He was born in Cornwall, so you could say Cornish. But really, he would have spoke Common Brythonic and Latin. Common Brythonic was the ancestor of Welsh, Cornish, and Breton (as well as at least one other language that went extinct in the middle ages). Now that I think about it, would be funny to give The Lion or King Arthur a really really thick Cornish accent.
@@jasonalcatraz5817 I saw that video and you mentioning it made me remember it, but now I can't find or even remember who the hell posted it. Plz halps.
@@Skedarking85 BladeofOmegon is the lad you're looking for. Pretty sure it's a RUclips Short, not a video, that may be why you can't find it so easy. ruclips.net/video/4fe8VwEQ_hU/видео.html Here you go
Guilliman: Now my outside fits my inside. Lion: How so? Guilliman: Well I'm grumpy, disappointed in everyone around me near constantly, hate myself and all the past decisions I've ever made, and I've said the words 'back in my day' at least six times in the last two hours.
The rock that makes you old makes you old, but it also stops you from getting older. You just stay old. That's the secret to how the Lion lived for ten thousand years without dying: he became old and stayed old for 10k years.
aging past your prime is just your genes getting longer and worn out. its the price we pay for relatively fast healing and cell regeneration. lobsters for example dont have that and dont really age. being a primarch, a perfected human form imbued with the powers of the beyond should prevent you from being affected by time alltogether
The reason ones young and ones old is because with guilliman , he was put into some stasis chamber that kept him preserved in time. The lion just laid out on some slab and went to sleep
Right.... and Abaddon and the rest of the csm don't look old because... They're skipping through time? Except they plainly aren't, and they keep banging on about their 10 000 year old grudge/campaign. The worst thing about this decision is that the lion's outward appearance is utterly at odds with his lived experience/character. The model looks very cool, but the actual narrative of this is ill-considered poop.
I like the implication that since it only took 3 days for Guilliman to go to the rock, get old, and come back that it didn't matter at all the Lion was in the Rock for thousands of years, he would've been exactly as old either way.
only thing i would have liked is if instead of 3 days you would have inserted 10 000 years (to reflect that this is about the time that lion will probably be asleep till he wakes up in the rock that makes you old)
So by judging you by your appearance I guess you went to the rock that made you old corret? No Brother, I just managed the dying Empire for 10,000 years.
Daamn the twist the turns, who knew that a short audio story would carry so much emotion! I feel like I slept in the chamber on the rock that makes me old!
Is it. . . not JUST a rock, er sorry, a chamber in a rock? I feel like the 10,000 years is what made the Lion old. 10,000 years older, in fact. . . . The watcher's stasis technology is way worse than the one Guilliman used. The Lion should get a refund.
Gulliman was in Stasis while Johnson was just asleep. However, Gulliman is visibly aging due to sheer stress. But lucky for both of them, it's superficial.
Wait a minute don’t watchers in the dark have presence that are similar to nulls. I imagine them staying near the lions body all the time allowed some minor aging appearance to happen
Dorn had lost his Legion with Sigismund being the sole survivor in it. That mental stress made him old? Also nearly losing the Legion a second time after the Dropsite Massacre?
I mean the sheer level of emotional chaos The Lion has gone through would've turned a normal human into dust. Seriously dudes stepfather became a traitor for a bit empowered by evil space gods trying to claim him as well. His home planet bombarded and fucked up by warp storms, and oh the whole his other god like brothers half of them turning traitor. Sanguineous's Death, and Ferrus Manus's death. The Lion in my opinion has been through the ringer and still remains loyal and steadfast to the Emperor and the imperium of man, and is also at some point going to learn about the tryandids and genestealers.
Considering he thought he got slowed because attack by chaos marine, he might be really think the rock had effect on him and changed the "kill in sight" lion into "chill" lion.
Theoretical: The rock won't make me old
Practical: I got old
I cannot express how much fire you just spat out my friend.
@@charlieabe then don't express.
*Hypothetical = Expectation
*Theoretical = Why
Ah theory and practice, two of Guiliman’s greatest loves. -Rogal Dorn while sitting on the Emperor’s lap
Well he only told him like 10 times
Let's be honest, a rock(or chamber) that can make you old is very possible in 40k
What if the Chamber is just made of Hruud?
@@gundamcollector77
that'd oddly make it more wh40k-ish...
now if you want it purely to be grim enough, just say it was made from the bones of hruud who died in screaming agony, then it's definitely dark grim enough.
@@Hawkens4k Why not Hruud who where taken by the Mechanicus to be experimented on and made into a room for the purpose of controlling metabolic rates of organic organisms, all while the Hruud are still alive and screaming in silent
agony?
@@gundamcollector77
then you got dark grim with a side of mechanicus plots.
@@Hawkens4k Ah yes is see
Horrible death = Grim dark
and life = Dark grim
Roboute: but the sleep was a regenerative one right?
Lion: regenerative? I just slept, there was a regenerative option?
I like to think that lion quite literally just slept, we see that the primarchs are still sorta vulnerable in the head area (leman getting knocked to sleep about 2 times or so) and probably must go catatonic if they managed to drag leman on the emperor's flag ship while he was unconscious, so my theory is that lion got trashed so bad he went for a nap and passed out, his primarchs genes did the rest and forbade him from waking up untill he was fully rested and healed
Theoretical : My brother might be full of shit
Practical : He wasn’t
That seems like something Rogal Dorn would say
as the Lion so eloquently said: "I will theoretically punch you in your practical face"
New drinking game, take a shot every time someone says "the rock that makes you old".
If you survive congratulation, you can join the space wolves.
Already ahead of you brother
What do we drink if we really want to make it a challenge? The Hennessy and Vodka didn’t work!
It's the drinking game that makes you old
@@Zakvadr1995
Full shots of 190 proof Everclear. You have to down the entire shot in one go each time he says it.
(Don’t try this. You might _actually_ get hurt or worse.)
This game will not make my liver old!
I love Welsh Lion El' Johnson, I can't think of him any other way now
King Arthur was theorized to be Welsh after all.
Also, in that video where Cawl accidently pulls a Tower of Babel, if the Dark Angels showed up DreadAnon would have had about 3 options for the Dark Angels' native tongue: Welsh because of King Arthur's likely ethnicity, Old English because the language of Beowulf was probably concurrent with the time period where Arthur was active, or Shakespearean English because Caliban was named after a character from The Tempest.
@@easonyeung2779 You could throw some plains native American languages into that mix, though modern Dark Angels have mostly abandoned the native American angle.
@@easonyeung2779 Definitely not Old English, the Anglo-Saxons were his nemesis. He was born in Cornwall, so you could say Cornish. But really, he would have spoke Common Brythonic and Latin. Common Brythonic was the ancestor of Welsh, Cornish, and Breton (as well as at least one other language that went extinct in the middle ages). Now that I think about it, would be funny to give The Lion or King Arthur a really really thick Cornish accent.
@@Liethen 'right Robbie my loverr! Me 'n the beys 'v brought our primaris tra'ers for reinforcements!'
@@Cirac1 now just give Azrael a jet-tractor and a shotgun and we’re golden
"I got old" is a pretty common feeling nowadays
to quote Alduin
"I just feel old, really..."
@@jasonalcatraz5817 I saw that video and you mentioning it made me remember it, but now I can't find or even remember who the hell posted it. Plz halps.
@@Skedarking85 BladeofOmegon is the lad you're looking for. Pretty sure it's a RUclips Short, not a video, that may be why you can't find it so easy.
ruclips.net/video/4fe8VwEQ_hU/видео.html
Here you go
@@Skedarking85 Seems like you also went to the rock that makes you old
Guilliman: Now my outside fits my inside.
Lion: How so?
Guilliman: Well I'm grumpy, disappointed in everyone around me near constantly, hate myself and all the past decisions I've ever made, and I've said the words 'back in my day' at least six times in the last two hours.
The rock that makes you old makes you old, but it also stops you from getting older. You just stay old.
That's the secret to how the Lion lived for ten thousand years without dying: he became old and stayed old for 10k years.
aging past your prime is just your genes getting longer and worn out. its the price we pay for relatively fast healing and cell regeneration. lobsters for example dont have that and dont really age. being a primarch, a perfected human form imbued with the powers of the beyond should prevent you from being affected by time alltogether
The ultimate question: would you mind being 60 for 200 years
@@dougneon9550 It's preferable to becoming 70, 80, 90 etc. So I wouldn't mind most likely.
all and all not bad if your like a good 60 but you can still do flips I wouldnt be mad.
@@dougneon9550 No
"I fought the xenos that make you old."
"That's not possible."
"Brother, I swear, they had control over time itself! Look how old they made me!"
Poor perturabo
@@riven5677 Wdym you're going to destroy the poor?
@@blacktemplar1139 oh hello brother or cousin? I was referring to how one of the arch traitors is hella old as he fought the hrud
@@riven5677 wdym? Poor Dantioch!
@@theoreomann794 no no not that blessed soul but rather his petulant father
Looks like Koluj got tired of waiting for his meatballs.
this is a certified dreadanon continuity moment
God I wish I had Context cause that’s still Pretty Funni
@@ComfortsSpecter Here’s your context: ruclips.net/video/ehtsHfD0SeQ/видео.html
@@Voltamatum I Like it.
The reason ones young and ones old is because with guilliman , he was put into some stasis chamber that kept him preserved in time. The lion just laid out on some slab and went to sleep
Hmmm sleept time
Right.... and Abaddon and the rest of the csm don't look old because... They're skipping through time? Except they plainly aren't, and they keep banging on about their 10 000 year old grudge/campaign.
The worst thing about this decision is that the lion's outward appearance is utterly at odds with his lived experience/character. The model looks very cool, but the actual narrative of this is ill-considered poop.
I think you meant "a rock that made him old"
@@euanmacleod3738 You can easily handwave it with "the warp did it" for abaddon and other chaos marines
@@euanmacleod3738 I agree wholeheartedly.
I like the implication that since it only took 3 days for Guilliman to go to the rock, get old, and come back that it didn't matter at all the Lion was in the Rock for thousands of years, he would've been exactly as old either way.
the rock doesn't age you, it just makes you old
I wonder if Yvraine will be upset or pleased at the fact her Primarch boy toy is now old after going to the rock that makes you old.
Gilf Guilliman.
I think she'd be down for silver fox girlyman
Railgun gerrymander
Gilffiman the Primarch of the Ultradaddies
To be fair she’s probably older than him already, if anything this is evening out the ages.
@@my9thaccount140 Biologically yes. Chronologically no, Girlyman is basically 12k years old by this point, he's as old as one of the oldest Aeldari.
The worst its that unlike guilliman who got yvraine to take care of his 10 000 year old nut, lionel still has to deal with that issue.
Legends say that's where Cawl got the geneseed to make the primaris marines.
Unlike Rogal, the Lion still has a hand.
@@bloodangel19 It's services were no longer required.
If the big G gets outside of his armor for too long he dies so i doubt he has ever busted a nut after awaking up
@@R_Caine he kisses far more than data slates
The chamber is where the Hrud teleported to after they made Perturabo older.
So he slept in the..
*Rock of Ages?* 🎸
Criminally underrated comment
I feel like you’ve perfectly captured Lion’s social skills.
Gotta be honest most of these primarchs look great with beards. The tts Rogal Dorn, and Corax for evample.
At least Guilliman and Lion El'Jonson share badass beards together.
I'm gonna need a series in this format, Dread. Like air in my lungs Imma need it.
Yes! During the crusade. All the brothers annoying the shit out of each other.
GW: I want to make a new design on the Lion, but I dont have a good excuse for that to put on the Lore.
Also GW: The Rock makes him old
1:39 Lions growl bleep......nice touch! 👌
If the Khan would enter the rock he would come out with a beard of whicht even Guan Yu would be proud of.
Y’know I kinda always thought he would just age from the stress of running the Imperium, but this is much funnier.
I love how all the watchers in the dark (un)officially talk like Kenny McCormick
The Robuste Guiliman Experience should be a Series
I love how the loin is welsh :D
The loin ?
Nice reference to the Short "Dagoth Ur and the Beach that makes you old".
Damn, Guilliman looking old is AMAZING!
only thing i would have liked is if instead of 3 days you would have inserted 10 000 years (to reflect that this is about the time that lion will probably be asleep till he wakes up in the rock that makes you old)
Jarvis, insert gif of Hank Scorpio from The Simpsons saying 'My goodness, what an idea! Why didn't I think of that?'
@@DreadAnon hey, it's 40k. If 40k can't be retconed, I don't know what retcons are for
Please, please keep making the whatchers be this weirdly helpful and wholesome. They're the best.
I don't care what anybody could say. A 10000 years nap in the rock that makes you old,IS officialy canon for me 😂😂
Given how the wrap works this is possibly how it works
The Wrap
@@Peter_Turbo4 yes wrap
The watchers are quickly becoming one of my favorite recurring characters.
Enough Guilliman said…calmly.
I bet it's a Hrud hideout
So Mortarion fell asleep in a cave that makes you smell like the My Hero fandom.
So by judging you by your appearance I guess you went to the rock that made you old corret? No Brother, I just managed the dying Empire for 10,000 years.
This is one of the Warhammer videos of all time.
Gulliman: how It was awekeng from stasis brother?
Lion: stasis? wath stasis? i just sleep on a slab of stone
Also i love lion's watcher minions with the cute muffled voices
Reminds me of the time Dagoth went to the beach that makes you old.
Daamn the twist the turns, who knew that a short audio story would carry so much emotion! I feel like I slept in the chamber on the rock that makes me old!
Rewatching this again, you’ve outdone yourself with this meme.
By Terra! This is one of your best right here mate 😂 love your work.
It’s obvious that a hrud has taken residence in ✨ the rock that makes you old ✨
Welsh Lion El' Johnson is perfect as almost as Robot Gorillaman with an italian accent
I am loving the headcanon that Lion El'Johnson speaks in a Welsh accent
I never knew I needed to see Guilliman with a beard and now I do. Whoever made that did a marvelous job.
It was an AI 💀
@@Whispurer it was the AI that makes you old
@@tomgeytenbeek2207that made me giigle
I went to the beach that makes you old
Nothing will ever replace TTS, but this is pretty damn close.
damn, dwaynes gotten up to some weird shit
Did people forget that Guill was in a stasis field the whole time while Lion just power-napped?
Guilliman straight became Marcus Aurelius 40k
*Lion looks in mirror to see himself old*
Lion: What the...
Watchers: Pranked bro!
1:57
*Watcher appears*
Me: KENNY!
So... would the Primarchs qualify for a Seniors discount now?
Actually, did they qualify before? And what about a Veterans discount?
Do you think Yvraine prefers the silver fox look, or would she long for her golden haired boy toy back?
Yes
They say "old" approximately 25 times and now it is no longer a word to me.
This is the best 40k vid I’ve ever seen legit
I FUCKING LOVE THIS SO MUCH.
I WANT TO WATCH THIS SHOW
HAVE INTERVIEW DORN AND LEMAN!
Rogal Dorn: “I WAS BORN OLD…”
It might be because I’m kinda drunk at the moment, but this made me laugh far more than it probably should have.
Guilliman stole that flag behind him from Malcador's collection.
Lion tricked Robot Gillman to became old 😂😂😂
this thing lives rent free in my head
young guilliman as ben shapiro in this bit makes so much sense
in the rock the mighty rock the lion sleeps tonight
That might be the rock that make you old, but this is the video that make it gold
Anytime I hear the word tube in a 40k video I can't help but hear "ME MUM WAS A TUBE" fuckin brainworm
Weird how lion used to be cold, sharp and cinical and now he has soften up a notch with age.
I love the lil watcher guys
Even the Laurel aged! The Rock truly is powerful!
It's fucking hilarious knowing that all the Dark Angels he meets in Son of the Forest instantly point out he got old
"you have to fucking know thats not possible" is probably the most guilliman reaction
The air-conditioning was made by a Hrud thats why
Is it. . . not JUST a rock, er sorry, a chamber in a rock? I feel like the 10,000 years is what made the Lion old. 10,000 years older, in fact.
. . .
The watcher's stasis technology is way worse than the one Guilliman used. The Lion should get a refund.
Gulliman was in Stasis while Johnson was just asleep. However, Gulliman is visibly aging due to sheer stress. But lucky for both of them, it's superficial.
Even the crown got old lol
Wait a minute don’t watchers in the dark have presence that are similar to nulls. I imagine them staying near the lions body all the time allowed some minor aging appearance to happen
Corvus Corax: And I’m…a bird now
We need more Old Primarchs. Except Old Fulgrim. Him becoming Old kind of just defeats the purpose of his existence.
Lion with a Welsh accent is excellent
I love how Dread says the word "ould".
Dorn had lost his Legion with Sigismund being the sole survivor in it. That mental stress made him old? Also nearly losing the Legion a second time after the Dropsite Massacre?
The Dwayne that makes me old
I hate the Ultramarines but I kinda dig old Guilliman.
Even the wreathe he wore got old/
The Son adorned in gold/
For he went, Brother in tow/
On the Rock that makes ye old.
I mean the sheer level of emotional chaos The Lion has gone through would've turned a normal human into dust. Seriously dudes stepfather became a traitor for a bit empowered by evil space gods trying to claim him as well. His home planet bombarded and fucked up by warp storms, and oh the whole his other god like brothers half of them turning traitor. Sanguineous's Death, and Ferrus Manus's death. The Lion in my opinion has been through the ringer and still remains loyal and steadfast to the Emperor and the imperium of man, and is also at some point going to learn about the tryandids and genestealers.
Considering he thought he got slowed because attack by chaos marine, he might be really think the rock had effect on him and changed the "kill in sight" lion into "chill" lion.
Why this has still so few views! This is canon! And it's most epic thing from WH40K :D
"Jamie pull up the directions to the rock that makes you old"
You know what doesn't get old?
These videos
But maybe if we put it in the rock...
It doesn’t just make you old, it allows you to grow some great facial hair.
I got old after watching this video
Damn...even Roboute's wreath turned white.
I hope Dorn comes back in with a huge stache and sideburn.
I wanna see his TTS look be confirmed.
If Guilliman didn't have a fetish for paperwork, he would look like that during his first days as the Imperial Regent.
Robot man just wanted a sick beard too