A scene I've been requested to attempt and one I've wanted to do for a while. Portraying the Emperor is quite a hurdle but I think I did the best I currently could with the tools I have! And overall a very interesting scene for the universe as a whole, whilst being emotionally crushing for Guilliman. If you enjoyed please like, comment and subscribe! It means a lot to me. And, my thanks for watching!
Would you do the scene where Vulkan arrives on Terra and makes the climb to the top of the throne with the Talisman of Seven Hammers? I could see it needing to be broken up like Rylanor but I think it would be epic
It might've been a hurdle.. but you pictured it so perfectly for me. I pictured his voice in that way since I've known the verse and actually litening to it was incredible. Thank you for the efforts
@@thetau4866 "Praise the Emperor whose sacrifice is life as ours is death. Hail his name the Master of Humanity." - extract from the Credo Astronomican
What is more unfathomable is the fact that people condition by memes and skewed perspective on Guilliman and Ultramarines put so much weight on words "thief, betrayer, thing" spoken when Emperor was pretty much disjointed and not "son", "last hope" and calling Guilliman by his name, not a number - which Emperor despite all that pain and agony forced himself to impart on Roboute Guilliman in clearest manner he could.
The implication later on is that he doesn't have a full and accurate recall of this conversation. Like a million things were imparted to him and he remembers only a part of it.
I mean the Emporer pulls together his scattered psyche to attempt a conversation. Hate and love. Compassion and indifference. Humanity and inhumanity. His father but not his father. However it does appear overall the Emperor does think highly of and love Guilliman.
@@DocLeQuack Even beyond Guilliman's recollection here that the Emperor is fractured and is telling him multiple things, it is implied that what was retained in the immediate moment afterwards was a fraction of what was discussed. Guilliman in a way is a bit of an unreliable narrator in that regard. I assume this is GW's way of pulling something new (lore-wise) out of their hat when they need it.
It’s not just that he can’t fully recall, it’s that every time he does recall the conversation happens anew. That’s what allows the Emperor to posses Guilliman, cure the Godblight and pour righteous fire into the heart of Nurgles Garden. It’s how Mortarian was able to stand before the Emperor too, to witness this exchange and be judged and pitied and longed to be saved and hated all at once. That conversation is happening, has happened and will continue to happen over and over, in every perceivable configuration, for all of eternity. Because he is the God Emperor.
They never really got along during the Great Crusade and Horus heresy. I suspect things won´t be much different in the current setting. However i do think they are both men of logic and both know that doing it alone isn´t an option in the long run. So they will proberbly agree to co-operate to bring their father´s imperium back into a semblance of order. Perhaps they could even do something akin to what their arrangement was in imperium secundus. Where the Lion mainly handles the military aspect of things and Gulliman handles the bureaucratic side of things. Gulliman might be able to bring the waiting down. instead of having to wait 7 lifetimes for a dessicion you now only have to wait 3 maybe 3,5 lifetimes.
@@ErikjustPerhaps you should listen to the video on this channel of when The Lion meets Dante, for Lion’s thoughts on learning Guilliman is about in the galaxy.
He's friends with one of Cawl's blasphemous horde his son decimus of whom he made captain of the non existent 11th chapter of the ultramarines and later tetrarch 😂
04:50 "'Father, not a Father, thing, thing, thing' the minds said." That part really stood out to me. This sounded like the Emperor decrying the utter maddening horror he's become. All glory, splendour, and humanity lost, his self-loathing really comes through. Great job again.
Maybe what he's trying to say is that none of those matters because those are from the past. Maybe he's trying to tell roboute that what matters is the present and their people.
Well in the End and The Death vol 2. The Emp legit launches his love and humanity off into the warp as he couldn't have those shards of himself if he wanted to fight Horus. Poor guy hopefully finds them
Those are the shards of him contradict each other. Remember Big E is in million pieces right now. That great will that asserted was himself. But from what i understood he couldn't maintain control over his own unlimited psyke. Big E is combations of millions of souls. The voices robot man heard was probably the original shamans that sacrified themselfs in order to create Big E.
This proves there was an emotional connection. The Emperor pulled himself together for nearly the final time, not to impart a command, but to speak his son's name.
@@andrewellisonleeHe means when He called him Guilliman. Pulling together his psyche, even just to speak a _single_ word, is incomprehensibly painful for the Emperor. He exercised what little of his power He had left just to call his son by name.
@@TheCorrodedManand he called him his greatest son. The emperor wanted to impart he trusted his son. I believe g man is wrong in that it eas conditional. The emperor weeps for his lost children.
I think the impression the emperor’s words gave him was that they were equally desperate to ask the other for help. So G was not only not going to get the guidance he came for but was also aware now that the human part of the emperor was as helpless as him when it came to controlling the overwhelming power .
I also believe there is an apology in these words, for the doubt cast on Guilliman during the heresy. Guilliman stayed true and has died for the cause, twice. He is The Avenging Son.
That final “Guilliman” at the end is so tragic. It feels like he has so much more to say. The emperor wants to give orders to lead the empire with his son but he just can’t. He has to trust in his Greatest son to finally bring back hope and do what he himself could not. Again 10/10 work you truly are a talent.
Thank you very much! That does mean a lot to me! I really enjoy the nuance in this scene and the multitude of possible interpretations people can garner from it, I am very glad that I can bring some of that meaning across. and, my thanks for watching!
That final "Guilliman" feels like the Emperor on his deathbed, reaching out his hand to console his son, letting him know one last time that he believes in him. One word with infinite weight, you captured the moment perfectly.
The emperor was already like that. Sure, it's been worse since 10,000 years, but let's not forget that Malcador and Valdor were shocked that the emperor was capable of calling the primarchs his sons and that he still had that level of humanity left in him before they even left Terra on the crusade. The emperor did die on horus ship. Humanity prayed for him that's what revived him. He may have revived into another body at that point but who knows how long that would have taken. They needed him on the throne to stop the demons from getting through.
I can’t imagine what it must be like for the both of them. For Guilliman to have such a crushing emotional moment like that and for the emperor to be suffering in perpetual pain stuck on the throne for 10,000 years because of the betrayal of his own creation, his own son, and for him to put in so much effort just to barely be able to speak coherently with the only son that hasn’t either betrayed him, gone MIA, or are KIA.
I really wish GW would just make a alternate Canon where The Emperor gets his perfect playthrough collects all 20/21 primarchs and his plans actually go off without a hitch.
I can imagine a story where the Great Crusade comes to a close with extreme fan fare across the entire imperium, actual thriving populations and now the fight turns to the true enemy, chaos. The Emperor gathers all 20 of this Sons in to the Palace and fully reveals to them the nature of the warp, what it holds and the dangers it causes. - Cut to a full scale mobilization of the Empire, every forge world going at full blast, each legion ranking in the hundreds of thousands. And in full lock step they some how cleanse the warp. And then the tyranids eat everything and the Emperor jolts awake from a nap on Terra and it was all a dream.
@@ElGrabnar Isn't this canonically the best possible reality? There is one that was foreseen where he actually succeeded and his plan turned out failing miserably.
The effort of The Emperor rending his fragmented soul and psyche back together just to communicate this small amount is completely unfathomable. Hundreds of psychers being turned to ash while the golden throne does whatever the hell it does all while this godlike being is in a state between life and death pulling together his consciousness. For 10,000 years he has been interred upon the golden throne. I can’t imagine what that what do to someone’s mind.
The Emperor absolutely lost all feeling in his buttcheeks considering he's literally been sitting in the exact same spot for 10k years He also definitely lost his mind, most likely hates how his empire turned out, and probably wants to die from the 10k years of dealing with the Warp spiritually and the physical agony of rotting away as a literal corpse, but those divine cheeks are clearly more important and deserve top priority here /s, but fr tho he's going through HELL rn
I think “Yesterday’s savior” may be the most heartbreaking but apt description of how G-man feels about the person the emperor used to be upon seeing what little was left of him.
I think there may be more significance to that line about words being of grievous harm. I think G-man may have actually damaged the remnants of the emperor’s mind by making him strain his dwindling willpower and divide his attention in order to speak.
I get the impression that its the golden throne that is keeping the Emperor trapped and unable to regenerate like a perpetual should. By trying to keep him alive the Emperors servants are preventing him from fully regenerating. To prove it youd have to turn off the throne, which would either be disastrous or let the Emperor fully regenerate
I still like to believe that the emperor cares about his sons, he's just so mixed and not right in the head right now that you wont know what he really feels
He is the god emperor. A true living God. He sees the duality of everything due to the wide perspective of humanity and the universe that he has and unlike us or even primarchs who lack that perspective, he accepts it all as what is and leaves the effects of “love” and other emotions that seek to color everything we perceive to us mortals. In a sense he has transcended far beyond humanity and it’s biological/emotional trappings. “A father, not a father.” Both are true but only he can truly see that. The God emperor can be said to be a Buddhist deity.
Actually it's more that he's no longer able to feel those emotions. It was revealed in The End and The Death Vol. 2 that before going to face Horus, the Emperor separated and cast off the part of his soul containing among other things his love and compassion so that he would be able to fight and kill Hours, and so that he could endure what would follow afterward.
I think its possible he loves them, but he needs Guilliman to feel that way so he will go and fix the Imperium out of spite and such. Then again, its hard to express love and such when you literally threw your compassion into another dimension, and you're a bunch of shamans coming unglued in pure agony.
The fact that the Emperor essentially had to use every ounce of his godly psychic strength, just to be able to barely manage to say what amounted to "I'm so sorry. I love you, son." had me genuinely weeping.
Like a father on his deathbed. He has moments left. Can barely do anything. And yet the most important thing he can impart to his son is to simply say “I love you, and you’re my final hope.” Out of everything he could have said to Guilliman, “go out do this” “go kill this” “fix this” instead, he simply says, “you’re my final hope, i love you, son.” And what to think of Mortarion. What did he say to him in that same exact moment? Did he tell Mortarion he loved him too? He forgave him? In those moments of last necessity, did he tell his lost son there was hope? That he could save him from his chains? Did he tell him he was doomed? It is too late for change? That he is to die by Guillimans hands? Or even his own? Did he condemn his son, damn him to eternal suffering? I love this scene so much.
I'm not entirely sure he was saying that, but I certainly think he was trying his best to sound genuine so that Guilliman can go on and do what he has to do.
I don’t read that in the conversation. Remember that Guilliman said the words were conditional. The Emperor was using Guilliman’s love for him to steer him on a path. And worse, Guilliman knew that this is what the Emperor was doing.
@@LM-xw7ii As much as the lore has unwound and rewound itself, I think it's pretty clear that the emperor only came close to viewing one or two of his primarchs as 'sons'. Guilliman's real father was Konor.
Give The Emperor a bit of a break, for over 10,000 years he's fought chaos, power the astronomican, and part knowledge on key individuals. All this while his body decays and his mind shattered to the point that there's no way to tell which one is truely him.
@@manhunter433 Magnus really damaged the imperium worse than anyone. But humanity screwed over the emperor by worshipping him. Due to the worship and the warp, the emperor could not properly be reborn.
It's as if the Emperor is battling through some great and terrible cosmic dementia, wrought by his overwhelming power; Trying to speak to Roboute through an ocean of minds and possibilities, and hoping that Guilliman can make sense of his words.
That last "Guiliman" sounded amazing, it almost sounded as if all the fractured pieces of the Emperor's mind he managed to pull together for this conversation were slowly being pulled back apart again and he delves back into his unending suffering for Humanity.
You did such an amazing job. People usually overembellish the emperors voice, trying to make him sound godly. But I've always imagined it like this. The voice of an old soul. Wise and calm, but at the same time tired and weary of carrying the weight of humankind itself on his shoulders.
Thank you very much! That means a lot. I was rather intimidated by attempting to portray the Emperor, with how large of a character he is so that is wonderful to hear. and, my many thanks for watching!
@@danielquintonvo yeah I have to agree your voiceover for the emperor is perfect. Sounds like someone who has gone mad after 10,000 years of being on life support but is too god damn powerful for someone to pull the plug. Kinda reminds me of Optimus Prime if he went insane
The fate of the Emperor is such a horrific tragedy to try to comprehend. Under all his godlike power he's still just a man. He has human emotions and human depth and human contradictions. He can't decide whether Guilliman is his final living son, his last connection to his own humanity, or just the last tool in his belt to try to reclaim what was lost. A champion for his vision or a broken failure like all his traitor primarchs. The broken mind of a man physically trapped in a rotting body by his own power. A mortal being with an immortal soul forced to carry the responsibility of a god. I almost break down trying to wrap my head around it.
Very well worded. I had the impression that over the last 10k years, he became more and more a being of the warp. With all that that entails, great power yes, but borne of a place no soul should consciously be subjected to. It is incomprehensible to us, and he has endured it for so long that he's become part of it, sowed into it. He suffers greatly because of what it does to him while also trying to use the power his people give him to protect them and save them. Maybe he sees nothing, adrift in the warp, lost and surrounded by the impossible and his waking dreams of helping people are those moments we see his miracles.
@domenikschmitz334 No he doesn't. At no point during his living life did the emperor see his sons as anything other than a tool to be used and discarded.
DAMN! Your voice as the Emperor is great! Powerful and accusing, and then tired and sad. Truly emphasizes what has happened to the Emperor in the 10k years he has been interred unto the Throne.
Thank you greatly! It was a rather large task to take on a recording with the Emperor in it! I am pleased to know it worked out well. My thanks for watching!
It seemed as if he was seeing and knowing millions of possible timelines, some where Guilliman may have taken to the side of Horus, others where he stayed true, becam neutral, was killed, etc...
You have to realise. This is what Gulliman heard. But Mortarion was there with him... What did he hear? What did the fallen lord of Barbaros hear, when his father spoke?
That is a question that I have had ever since I listened to the audiobook. Guilliman’s recollection of his conversation with the Emperor is fragmented. No two recollections the same. Plus, as we’ve seen in some of the other books, it is possible to hold a conversation with the Emperor through a vivid enough memory, such as when Horus talked to Him during the Siege through the memory he had of when he sweared fealty to the Emperor.
We don't need to guess because the Emperor did indeed speak to Mortarion, albeit through Guilliman, later on in this series. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. ‘Does He not speak to you?’ - then a little later... ‘You are a traitor,’ Guilliman said, in a voice that was not quite his own. ‘You have brought low all that could have been, but you are as much a victim as a monster, Mortarion. Perhaps one day you might be saved. Until then, you must go back to the master you chose.’
As beautiful as this scene is, part of me wishes we also got Mortarion's POV of seeing Emps and realising just how mighty Emps is and what he destroyed by betraying the Imperium
You have to realise. This is what Gulliman heard. But Mortarion was there with him... What did he hear? What did the fallen lord of Barbaros hear, when his father spoke? Was he called the 14th? Was he called a betrayer? A double agent?
@@BananenbaumEY I think it would start like that, but then Morty would see the true might of the Emperor. He would see the reason the Chaos Gods call him the Anathema. But then the power would fade, and he'd see the broken corpse again. But now he'd know what that corpse was hiding, and what it's death means for humanity and the warp
Mortarion was right about one thing. His father is dead. The Emperor is not the same person he was during the crusade. There may be love there still... but millennia of suffering on an unimaginable scale would erode everything from you. Strip you to your barest nature and take even that away. The Emperor fights because that's all he can do. He can't even die.
A machine once of preservation turned to one of eternal torture, keeping keeping alive something which was meant to die long, long ago. Not unlike the Imperium itself.
This is explained in further detail in the Siege of Terra. I strongly encourage everyone read the terrible choice the emperor had to make to defeat Horus at the end of the series. Truly riveting storytelling from Dan Abnett and crew
@@mogim815its been retconned i think, golden throne isnt keeping emperor alive in fact i think if he wasnt on the golden throne he would have recovered by now. Emperor is alive because of his own power and the golden throne needs massive amount of it to protect humanity, if emperor ever gets off the throne he might recover but humanity is doomed. Also thing to note good part of the emperor was cut out before fight with horus so its still out there somewhere, so there is still hope for emperor to come back from this. Not that it will ever happen as 40k is gonna get milked forever
Such a sympathetic reading of the Emperor’s plight. He is powerful and yet so powerless at the same time. Although he is kept alive on the throne he also powers it. He is in a constant cycle of being broken down and remade, always in pain. He has been in that state for ten thousand years, powering the Astronomican and surveying mankind’s plight in the Galaxy, as it is beset by enemies, the worst being the Chaos gods and their daemons. But he cannot leave. It took all of his concentration and might to speak to his son, with the sound of ancient but failing machinery in the background, to his last but brightest hope “Guilliman.”
@@gamerboiiiiiii Because the Emperor IS the power source. The Golden Throne was meant to allow humanity access to webway, with him just sitting on it, guiding people and allowing humanity to eventually safely turn into psychic species. Unfortunately it was damaged during Heresy and since he is the one who actually build it and the only one who understands its inner workings (there is also some implication that it uses xenotech - possible the Old Ones technology, so good luck with finding anyone who actually knows what they'd be doing) and with how dependent humanity is on the damned thing (since it now powers Astronomicon) it's just impossible to tinker with it. Plus, the whole religious dogma.
5:55 that is *perfection*. The tone, the music, the warped voice implying the terrible effort it takes for this lost, doomed man to collect enough of himself to speak the name.
god damn! I've heard many versions of the God Emperor speaking, but this does give me chills. It fits his current state so perfectly, the amount of souls and power coursing through him. Fantastic job once again!
(The transcript:) He was in the dust of a corpse-king’s court. He was before a resplendent Emperor for all the ages. ‘Father,’ he said, and when he had said that word, it was the last time he had meant it. ‘Father, I have returned.’ Guilliman forced himself to look up into the pillar of light, the screaming of souls, the empty-eyed skull, the impassive god, the old man, yesterday’s saviour. ‘What must I do? Help me, father. Help me save them.’ In the present, in the past, he felt Mortarion’s wordless presence at his side, and felt his fallen brother’s horror. He looked at the Emperor of Mankind, and could not see. Too much, too bright, too powerful. The unreality of the being before him stunned him to the core. A hundred different impressions, all false, all true, raced through his mind. He could not remember what his father had looked like, before, and Roboute Guilliman forgot nothing. And then, that thing, that terrible, awful thing upon the Throne, saw him. ‘My son,’ it said. ‘Thirteen,’ it said. ‘Lord of Ultramar.’ ‘Saviour.’ ‘Hope.’ ‘Failure.’ ‘Disappointment.’ ‘Liar.’ ‘Thief.’ ‘Betrayer.’ ‘Guilliman.’ He heard all these at once. He did not hear them at all. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. ‘Roboute Guilliman.’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. ‘Guilliman. Guilliman. Guilliman.’ The name echoed down the wind of eternity, never ceasing, never reaching its intended point. The sensation of many minds reached out to Guilliman, violating his senses as they tried to commune, but then one mind seemed to come from the many, a raw, unbounded power, and gave wordless commands to go out and save what they built together. To destroy what they made. To save his brothers, to kill them. Contradictory impulses, all impossible to disobey, all the same, all different. Futures many and terrible raced through his mind, the results of all these things, should he do any, all or none of them. ‘Father!’ he cried. Thoughts battered him. ‘A son.’ ‘Not a son.’ ‘A thing.’ ‘A name.’ ‘Not a name.’ ‘A number. A tool. A product.’ A grand plan in ruins. An ambition unrealised. Information, too much information, coursed through Guilliman: stars and galaxies, entire universes, races older than time, things too terrifying to be real, eroding his being like a storm in full spate carves knife-edged gullies into badlands. ‘Please, father!’ he begged. ‘Father, not a father. Thing, thing, thing,’ the minds said. ‘Apotheosis.’ ‘Victory.’ ‘Defeat.’ ‘Choose,’ it said. ‘Fate.’ ‘Future.’ ‘Past.’ ‘Renewal. Despair. Decay.’ And then, there seemed to be focusing, as of a great will exerting itself, not for the final time, but nearly for the final time. A sense of strength failing. A sense of ending. Far away, he heard arcane machines whine and screech, close to collapse, and the clamour of screams of dying psykers that underpinned everything in that horrific room rising higher in pitch and intensity. ‘Guilliman.’ The voices overlaid, overlapped, became almost one, and Guilliman had a fleeting memory of a sad face that had seen too much, and a burden it could barely countenance. ‘Guilliman, hear me. ‘My last loyal son, my pride, my greatest triumph.’ How those words burned him, worse than the poisons of Mortarion, worse than the sting of failure. They were not a lie, not entirely. It was worse than that. They were conditional. ‘My last tool. My last hope.’ A final drawing in of power, a thought expelled like a dying breath. ‘Guilliman…’
The emotion you put into Guilliman's voice is exceptional, like you're truly pouring some part of yourself into the role. He sounds like a stoic demigod brought close to tears. Really excellent work.
"Is he gone... Finally. About fucking time. Dorn, you can come out of your box fort now, he's gone. I swear to fucking god, the chanting in my head was deafening. I was about to lose my hearing, and my eardrums rotted away millennia ago." "You cannot lose your hearing twice, father." "How un-fucking-fortunate. God damn it Rogal. Go back in your box fort." "No."
I love this scene because, even though G-man comes away feeling cold, I can’t help but feel this is, partially, a genuine display of affection from The Emperor. I mean, he hasn’t done this in ten thousand years. He’s spoken through people by giving them visions and what have you, but he’s never committed to the massive force of will necessary to actually speak with anyone. Until his son came back. That’s kinda beautiful I think.
If you’ve read the last heresy book , I think it’s just the two aspects of the emperor from when he split to fight Horus. I take it as the god emperor is a fragmented mind but when he is needed most the fragment with his humanity comes out. No matter what people say the emperor loved his sons(creations), theres a scene where he’s trying to fix angron and you can see that killing angron would have been the expedient choice but he couldn’t do it, for the slight chance he could be saved. Creations or sons it doesn’t matter, he made them to him they are the same. What king wouldn’t see his son as a tool , it doesn’t mean he doesn’t care for them. I love the scene where he suggests even mortarion could be saved and how in the last book they even say the emperor knew if he killed Horus he’d have been broken anyway and would have followed a path to damnation.
slight chance he could be saved? if you are talking about his surgery scene that's absolutely not what he kept angron around and you know it he saw angron as a useful tool and weapon, something which could still fight and conquer, he didn't have empathy for Angron, he used Angron
@@nicholasbrown668 The Emperor has zero interest of his planets to be ruins, graveyards. He needs prosperity, unity and resources to fuel his crusade to unite humanity. Angron did the opposite. He was a mad dog that butchered the innocent and ruined his whole Legion. The Emperor did try to cure Angron but in doing so it would kill him. He loved his son, in a way, but didn't really showed it. Also the Emperor created his sons to be administrators, not butchers. Angron had healing powers if i recall correctly. His purpose was the exact opposite of what he became. He was broken but still he was his son. What about Lorgar? The Emperor warned him multiple times for decades but Lorgar ignored him. His father had enough and punished him by razing Monarchia but not before evacuating the population. Again, the Emperor wants to avoid needless death. Angron was to be the healer, Konrad the Judge, Perturabo the builder etc.etc. all progressive roles for his Empire but fate had other plans. Sorry but the Emperor loved his sons, he had A LOT of patience and trust and in the end that was his undoing.
@@Shadowhunterbg your comment would make sense if the Emperor didn't rationalize keeping Angron alive specifically because of his ruthlessness and effectiveness and even told Arkan Land that the Emperor didn't care about his sons also you mean the evacuation that also came with purges of the population? that evacuation? and the Emperor who openly allowed one of his sons to brutally torture people? you say he cares about human life? the evacuation where Ultramarines killed anyone who refused to evacuate? the evacuation where Ultramarines literally told a woman "move or I will kill you with the heathen words still in your mouth"?
@@nicholasbrown668 You're hanging on to one version of The Emperor written by one author, who deliberately made him ambigous by having different people see different aspects of him. So you're not even using the full interpretation. He is a millenia old godlike being and his sons are likewise immortal demigods, they're not ging to play catch or get tucked in (incidentaly, this is exactly what he did do with Horus, the son he got to raise, instead of brainwashing him into mindless servitude). Seriously, the whole argument falls apart the moment you ask "Why didn't he just use his godlike powers and super space tech to brainwash all the primarchs into mindless servitude, why did he let them keep their free will and humanity?". No answer. Every retcon to make him more callous opened a billion plot holes and made the story dumber because surprisingly a lot of the story hinged on the guy who willingly endures millennia of the worst torture imaginable for the sake of his species being kind of capable of love and humanity.
I have been waiting for you to drop this. Amazing. The Emperor strikes me as a need to protect humanity rather than a culmination of consciousness. The Emperor protects.
It would be amazing to hear your interpretation of guilliman being possessed by the emperor and burning the garden of nurgle from godblight! Absolutely love listening to your readings.
The throne, that cursed golden prison. Removed, he must be removed from the throne. A prison for the body, and the body a prison for the soul. Ten millennia of prayers and sacrifices, wishes and belief all empowering him, turning him into a single great being.
@Tigran-Abazyan that isn’t the problem. The problem is that A.) the chaos gods will do literally whatever they can to keep him on the throne and keep it working. Because they know that once he is free from it their time is over. B.) the second he _is_ removed, the entire solar system will be engulfed in a massive warp storm that makes the eye of terror look like a calm breeze thanks to a special security device that Vulcan made before he disappeared.
@@ender_slayer3 one Last thing we dont know whether big E will turn into a good god if that happens or become the DARK KING and be the 5th chaos god,dooming humanity while also killing all the other chaos gods leaving the eldar who survive ,necrons and tau to fight it out for supremecy. And lets be honest unless the eldar get theyr Last blade în that Time and wake up that death god the necrons win the setting should this path be taken.
@@stephenbyrne2170 Rest? Oh no, with his body no longer being maintained by the arcane machinations of the Golden Throne it will turn to dust, his soul will converge into a singular mote, and he will be reborn!
It’s funny.. When I look at my boy, I think my pride and my greatest triumph. As a father, I can relate but not for the final time, not yet. Only a father knows.
Gosh, I have heard this scene interpreted before but the way you cast inflection... the heart of it. Magnificent. Absolutely impossibly executed. This is now how I will always remember and feel this scene.
This moment to me signifies that the Emperor is never coming back in a human capacity, but rather as something completely different that will be unfamiliar to all that knew him.
A big reason for why the emp comes across as so cold is because the part of his soul that would have compassion and love for the primarchs is all but gone: "My lord and friend has broken off a part of his soul. He has amputated that portion of himself that contains almost all of his hope, loyalty and compassion, for such things will become a hindrance when he faces the Lupercal. Those qualities might stay his hand, or make him hesitate if he is ultimately obliged to kill. And if he is obliged to kill his son, then those qualities would afterwards, and inevitably, drive him to self-hatred and regret, and condemn him to the same, embittered path as Horus. He has excised those precious human aspects to further steel himself against the pain of what will come after, and the mandatory atrocities he will have to countenance in order to rebuild the Imperium. He has set those frail and cardinal virtues adrift on the tides of the empyrean so that they will not immobilise him. And in the hope that one day, he will be able to reclaim them, and be whole again. " - Malcador the Sigillite
I think what is happening to the Emperor here is his slow transformation into godhood. We know that in WH40k, gods are a result of prayers, thoughts, souls and concepts created by sentient species. Gods are not so much single, sentient organisms, but more like omnipotent forces of nature. They don't make single conscious decisons, but so much as just act based on the thoughts, prayers, souls, etc. that they are comprised of. While the Emperor is technically stll alaive and technically still has a soul of immense willpower, I believe he's being psychically ripped apart, and remade to better reflect the desires and beliefs of all humans who worship in him. Its why it feels like he has so many different voices and so many different opinions on Guilliman, but the Emperor isn't really a single person anymore. Great narration! Stellar job!
People say that the emperor didn’t care about his sons. Perhaps that’s the facade he needed to be logical and cold since emotion was what led to the collapse. But it’s evident in spurts that he loves them.
Didn't he have to cast away his love for them before his battle with Horus to avoid becoming the Dark King and to bring himself to fight his own son? It wouldn't help much to cast it away unless it was something significant right?
@@bruh-ux1nsHe didn't cast it away to avoid becoming the Dark King. When He used the warp power He had absorbed to fight Horus in order to look into the future (Ollanius begged Him to do so) He saw that He would become a Chaos God (and kill all of himanity) if He tried to defeat Horus by simply overpowering him. That horrified Him and He relinquished all the strength He had drawn from the warp. But He knew that by doing so He would be forced to confront His now godlike son as a man. He also knew that even if He somehow survived that fight and won He would be too wounded to do anything but regulate the Throne and keep the door closed on the Ruinous Powers for the next tenthousand years. Thus he would be unable to keep the Imperium from turning into the nightmare we now know it as. Casting aside his empathy was the only thing he could think of to counter the effect that fate would have on Him, because He knew, that being forced to witness and tolerate such horror for tenthousand years would drive Him completely insane otherwise.
I have listened to this more than 50 times. And it is without reservation my absolute favorite reading of any 40k text yet. The emotion. The editing. The music. All are just fucking sublime.
Imo this is the Emperor trying to break through millennia of unfiltered omnipotentence to put into words the complete depth of his despair, horror, resignation, and anger; while fighting it with his immense will with the overwhelming volume of hope and love that counterbalances it into a NEED. Thus why he sees Guilliman as both Son, and tool. I empathise with Guilliman here as this was my feeling when talking to my dying father who needed me - his immature and unprepared son- to take on the burdens of his duties in the family. He was hopeless. Helpless. But needed me to be his tool to complete the works of his life. Whole that was a priority For his personal goals, it was balanced with pride in me, despite not being fully up to the task, and a deep love for me. It's a powerful sequence. Very well written.
I have only recently started my journey into Warhammer, and your performance here was extremely powerful. The Emperor's voice gave me chills, and really helped to illustrate the dire state of affairs in the 41st millennium. Great work, you've earned a subscriber!
Your emperor-voice has that dark souls quality to it, and is the best rendition I've ever heard of the emperor thus far. I'd love to see more excerpts of the emperor voiced by you!
Oh that does mean a lot to me, I adore Dark Souls and its voice acting! I shall certainly see what I can find and put it on the list! My thanks for watching!
@@danielquintonvo Of course, it's a pleasure. I remember Orson Wells saying something to the effect of "full enunciation of every word makes a commanding voice,". Playing this back, I can see the parts I really liked being where I did actually hear every word fully pronounced, such as "defeat". It's very clear, it's very final. You get the picture! Best of luck.
This excerpt (wonderful voicework, DQVO) enforces a theory I've had for a while; that the Emperor is no longer a single entity. Ten-thousand years of worship by untold trillions have spawned within him, or perhaps mutilated his soul into, multiple entities. This is similar to how the orks are able to alter reality around them with the power of belief, only it's all focused on one individual. Each one of these entities is an embodiment of what the people of the Imperium imagine the Emperor of Mankind to be: mercy, vengeance, power, judgment, salvation, damnation. A cacophony of strands that once formed a singular man, each one believing themselves to be the Emperor; each one both right and wrong. Ironically it's this torn apart nature that allows the EoM to focus his will in so many directions at once, with the daily sacrifice of psykers sustaining his endeavors and preventing the individual strands from falling apart. However it also makes any attempt at a focused endeavor (talking to Guilliman, burning Nurgle's garden) an arduous endeavor, requiring him to pull the strands together beneath his will. When he achieves this though, he becomes more powerful than he ever was when he walked freely; a cruel irony for a staunch atheist to be empowered by the faith of others. Even worse, many of the strands are openly defiant towards him, representing embodiments of the lies that the Ecclesarchy has fashioned of his nature over the millennium. He is literally having to fight pieces of his own soul on top of everything else. And as the false faith continues, it will only get worse.
God, you do great work. This scene is one of my favorites, you really brought it to life. For all that everyone says the Emperor was wrong, I don't know if any of us could order ourselves wired into the only thing that will keep mankind alive, while knowing exactly what will happen.
I’ve never read Warhammer 40k, I’ve never played the games, I didn’t even know it existed before 2022, and I’ve only read a few articles. I’m a diehard Halo fan, but this hits HARD
This was truly awesome to hear. You brought so much emotion and power to these lines. When later at end Emps said 'Guilliman'...in that slow..all powerful voice...that had me at chills. Love it. Keep up the amazing work
@h8tm3 Plenty would if they still could. Get him to send you voice notes if you can, it's a miracle I can still hear my Pa encourage me when I've had a rough day.
That was really good!!!! It does allow for the answering of some questions of Guilliman's meeting with the Emporer. A very intense revelation of what the Golden Throne does to maintain the Emporer.
Such a great portrayal of this scene it genuinely brought me to tears that the emperor in all his godly psychic might had to give everything he had just to tell Guilliman to keep his head up and keep going.
The Fanmade conversation between the Emperor and Guilliman at least left a little hope for our favourite blueberry, this just leaves a feeling of tragedy for the big guy! Fantastic as always!
Thank you for your great job, I am shaken to the core with what I listened here. I comeback here time to time to listen it and everytime I get goosebumps
Puts the will and fortitude of the companions into prospective when they have to listen to the Emperors voice and bear the power of being in the Throne room for years, some end their time and their Armour is scorched by the psychic might of the Emperor, some who come to replace a companion fail as soon as they enter because its too much. Guilliman had mere moments with the Emperor, and it nearly broke him.
I know little about warhammer the memes and jokes but putting that all aside the stories of these different characters are interesting and dark but very good moments like these caches my attention and its very good.
I feel for Gulliman, my bio dad was a horrible person who wished I would have someone die because of my mistakes (I was a medic in the army) and it was my stepdad (who 100% is my father) who helped me through alot in my life.
Blood is such a small part of what makes someone 'family' I find, and that's why I love the more human moments that these demi-gods get, even in the most insanely over the top fantasy and sci-fi we can find such wonderful messages and meanings! and, my thanks for watching!
I’m sorry you have to deal with that my guy. My own family abandoned me as well. My in laws became my family. The black hole inside has its days but the love of my true family more than counter acts it. I hope and pray that your step dads love does that for you. Thank you for sharing and thank you for your service.
"They were not a lie, not entirely. It was worse than that. _They were condititional._" I see some people in the comments here interpreting the last section of Big E talking to Guilleman as the Emperor trying to say he loves Lil' G. I think that is an utter misunderstanding of the quote above here. The Emperor burned hundreds of psykers, hundreds of screaming, suffering, souls, to pull his mind together again just long enough to remind Guilleman that he loves him only so long as he's useful. To remind him he's a tool. You cannot convince me the galaxy wouldn't have been better off if the Emperor had never been born. No Chaos Space Marines, no big fancy light to draw in the Tyranids, no endless battlegrounds to make bigger and better orks, the Interex would still exist, the Tau wouldn't have the Imperium to be a bad influence on them, the Dark Eldar would be entirely unchanged, the Eldar would actualyl be able to accomplish anything without having their plans ruined by deathwatch, and the Necrons would all be busy fighting each other without the Silent King rushing back home to unify them out of fear of the Tyranids.
@@griffinflyer77 Holding the webway sphincter closed is the most demanding task of powering the astronomicon. With that out of the way the throne wouldn't be as terrible a fate.
I think I understand what happened here finally. Guilliman heard mixed messages about being both a son and a tool because he personally struggles with that concept so The Emperor is reflecting that upon him. The Emperor said "Father, not father, thing" because secretly that is part of how Guilliman saw him as he sat dead looking on the throne. I think The Emperor was letting him see he saw the conflict within Guilliman and could read all his thoughts and was making him confront them. At the end he did say he was his last hope and he seemed to still have a lot of faith in him.
I found the two most striking to be; - he called him "son" as one of the first things. -"Save your brother" was said before telling him to destroy it. Whether the emperor is still himself to some extent, or simply the sum of every sacrificed psyker, blended together, it is clear a part of the emperor cares about guilliman and his brothers.
if it does. i'd hope they go with the route that the star child is the largest fragment of the emperors soul. taken on a life of its own as it did before the ritual that birthed the man it was once a part of.
The pain of a human being elevated to godhood against his will. Like putting an ocean into a balloon sized container, ripping the container apart and requiring an incredible amount of strength to bring the scraps back together. No wonder he abhorred the idea of being a god as the level of suffering is literally unimaginable
They should have installed some sort of device so the emperor can talk and doesn't have to use telepathy, it could be some sort of text to speech device
yea i agree. I really don't think people understand what big E is actually up to. He is saying everything and nothing at the same time. Guilliman is probably hearing what he wants to hear. what he chooses to hear. and its just that simple. I don't think its intended for us to understand what is being said. But besides all that, text to speech is lightyears away from their primitive technology. They could never hope to have that. @@cyclone8974
A scene I've been requested to attempt and one I've wanted to do for a while.
Portraying the Emperor is quite a hurdle but I think I did the best I currently could with the tools I have!
And overall a very interesting scene for the universe as a whole, whilst being emotionally crushing for Guilliman.
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Would you do the scene where Vulkan arrives on Terra and makes the climb to the top of the throne with the Talisman of Seven Hammers?
I could see it needing to be broken up like Rylanor but I think it would be epic
It might've been a hurdle.. but you pictured it so perfectly for me. I pictured his voice in that way since I've known the verse and actually litening to it was incredible.
Thank you for the efforts
This is beautiful
Great job!
Yeah, no wonder Roboute is suffering from Ultradepression... no pressure bro.
Not only that but he is fookin hate this Imperium.
@@Warmaster2001 as it is now? Yes.
I c what u did there
drinking an espresso depresso
@@stumpe9662 poor guy needs some hot elf poon tang again
The amount of effort it took for Emps to pull himself together to speak those few coherent words is truly unfathomable.
Yeah, the dude is basically a galactic consciousness made of agony. Talking to a person for him must be like threading a needle drunk in a hurricane.
@lumburgapalooza and yet, as a great man, he managed to do it.
@@thetau4866
"Praise the Emperor whose sacrifice is life as ours is death. Hail his name the Master of Humanity."
- extract from the Credo Astronomican
What is more unfathomable is the fact that people condition by memes and skewed perspective on Guilliman and Ultramarines put so much weight on words "thief, betrayer, thing" spoken when Emperor was pretty much disjointed and not "son", "last hope" and calling Guilliman by his name, not a number - which Emperor despite all that pain and agony forced himself to impart on Roboute Guilliman in clearest manner he could.
The amount of psykers who had to fuel this
The implication later on is that he doesn't have a full and accurate recall of this conversation. Like a million things were imparted to him and he remembers only a part of it.
I mean the Emporer pulls together his scattered psyche to attempt a conversation. Hate and love. Compassion and indifference. Humanity and inhumanity. His father but not his father. However it does appear overall the Emperor does think highly of and love Guilliman.
@@DocLeQuack Even beyond Guilliman's recollection here that the Emperor is fractured and is telling him multiple things, it is implied that what was retained in the immediate moment afterwards was a fraction of what was discussed. Guilliman in a way is a bit of an unreliable narrator in that regard. I assume this is GW's way of pulling something new (lore-wise) out of their hat when they need it.
@@RichardStrong86 Oh yes they will drop feed the fuck out of this conversation.
It's like that time I did DMT.
It’s not just that he can’t fully recall, it’s that every time he does recall the conversation happens anew.
That’s what allows the Emperor to posses Guilliman, cure the Godblight and pour righteous fire into the heart of Nurgles Garden.
It’s how Mortarian was able to stand before the Emperor too, to witness this exchange and be judged and pitied and longed to be saved and hated all at once. That conversation is happening, has happened and will continue to happen over and over, in every perceivable configuration, for all of eternity.
Because he is the God Emperor.
I hurt for Guilliman, he is so lonely. I can’t wait for the reunion with the Lion.
That shall be a great moment! Hopefully I can be there to record and upload it when it happens.
My thanks for watching!
They never really got along during the Great Crusade and Horus heresy.
I suspect things won´t be much different in the current setting.
However i do think they are both men of logic and both know that doing it alone isn´t an option in the long run.
So they will proberbly agree to co-operate to bring their father´s imperium back into a semblance of order.
Perhaps they could even do something akin to what their arrangement was in imperium secundus.
Where the Lion mainly handles the military aspect of things and Gulliman handles the bureaucratic side of things.
Gulliman might be able to bring the waiting down.
instead of having to wait 7 lifetimes for a dessicion you now only have to wait 3 maybe 3,5 lifetimes.
@@ErikjustPerhaps you should listen to the video on this channel of when The Lion meets Dante, for Lion’s thoughts on learning Guilliman is about in the galaxy.
Or when both of them meet Vulcan hopefully
He's friends with one of Cawl's blasphemous horde his son decimus of whom he made captain of the non existent 11th chapter of the ultramarines and later tetrarch 😂
04:50 "'Father, not a Father, thing, thing, thing' the minds said."
That part really stood out to me. This sounded like the Emperor decrying the utter maddening horror he's become. All glory, splendour, and humanity lost, his self-loathing really comes through. Great job again.
He’s essentially become like Darth Vader he hates his own exsistence
Maybe what he's trying to say is that none of those matters because those are from the past. Maybe he's trying to tell roboute that what matters is the present and their people.
Well in the End and The Death vol 2. The Emp legit launches his love and humanity off into the warp as he couldn't have those shards of himself if he wanted to fight Horus. Poor guy hopefully finds them
It is rather a hint of his true self. As if he, like primarchs, was created for a purpose.
Those are the shards of him contradict each other. Remember Big E is in million pieces right now. That great will that asserted was himself. But from what i understood he couldn't maintain control over his own unlimited psyke. Big E is combations of millions of souls. The voices robot man heard was probably the original shamans that sacrified themselfs in order to create Big E.
This proves there was an emotional connection. The Emperor pulled himself together for nearly the final time, not to impart a command, but to speak his son's name.
You mean a number or a tool yea?
@@andrewellisonleeHe means when He called him Guilliman. Pulling together his psyche, even just to speak a _single_ word, is incomprehensibly painful for the Emperor. He exercised what little of his power He had left just to call his son by name.
@@TheCorrodedManand he called him his greatest son. The emperor wanted to impart he trusted his son. I believe g man is wrong in that it eas conditional. The emperor weeps for his lost children.
I think the impression the emperor’s words gave him was that they were equally desperate to ask the other for help. So G was not only not going to get the guidance he came for but was also aware now that the human part of the emperor was as helpless as him when it came to controlling the overwhelming power .
I also believe there is an apology in these words, for the doubt cast on Guilliman during the heresy. Guilliman stayed true and has died for the cause, twice. He is The Avenging Son.
That final “Guilliman” at the end is so tragic. It feels like he has so much more to say. The emperor wants to give orders to lead the empire with his son but he just can’t. He has to trust in his Greatest son to finally bring back hope and do what he himself could not. Again 10/10 work you truly are a talent.
Thank you very much! That does mean a lot to me! I really enjoy the nuance in this scene and the multitude of possible interpretations people can garner from it, I am very glad that I can bring some of that meaning across.
and, my thanks for watching!
I heard it too
It was forlorn in tone
Lol greatest by what metric
@@jubelu3347 Greatest at being alive and present, for starters.
@@DukeOnkled lion are both and better
That final "Guilliman" feels like the Emperor on his deathbed, reaching out his hand to console his son, letting him know one last time that he believes in him. One word with infinite weight, you captured the moment perfectly.
Hits way too hard
@@deanrogers6 For The Emperor!
Warhammer ain't never made me cry, man, but this description came close.
I see it more as the last time he could muster enough of his "Self" to reach out to his Son before his apotheosis.
The emperor was already like that. Sure, it's been worse since 10,000 years, but let's not forget that Malcador and Valdor were shocked that the emperor was capable of calling the primarchs his sons and that he still had that level of humanity left in him before they even left Terra on the crusade. The emperor did die on horus ship. Humanity prayed for him that's what revived him. He may have revived into another body at that point but who knows how long that would have taken. They needed him on the throne to stop the demons from getting through.
I can’t imagine what it must be like for the both of them. For Guilliman to have such a crushing emotional moment like that and for the emperor to be suffering in perpetual pain stuck on the throne for 10,000 years because of the betrayal of his own creation, his own son, and for him to put in so much effort just to barely be able to speak coherently with the only son that hasn’t either betrayed him, gone MIA, or are KIA.
In the grim darkness of the Far Future…
_There is yet Hope_
I really wish GW would just make a alternate Canon where The Emperor gets his perfect playthrough collects all 20/21 primarchs and his plans actually go off without a hitch.
@@ElGrabnarincorporate it into the Horus Heresy line and make it some MCU shenanigans. Crisis of 40,000 Warhammers.
I can imagine a story where the Great Crusade comes to a close with extreme fan fare across the entire imperium, actual thriving populations and now the fight turns to the true enemy, chaos.
The Emperor gathers all 20 of this Sons in to the Palace and fully reveals to them the nature of the warp, what it holds and the dangers it causes. - Cut to a full scale mobilization of the Empire, every forge world going at full blast, each legion ranking in the hundreds of thousands. And in full lock step they some how cleanse the warp.
And then the tyranids eat everything and the Emperor jolts awake from a nap on Terra and it was all a dream.
@@ElGrabnar Isn't this canonically the best possible reality? There is one that was foreseen where he actually succeeded and his plan turned out failing miserably.
Better said
In the grim darkness of the far future where there is only war. There is yet hope.
The effort of The Emperor rending his fragmented soul and psyche back together just to communicate this small amount is completely unfathomable. Hundreds of psychers being turned to ash while the golden throne does whatever the hell it does all while this godlike being is in a state between life and death pulling together his consciousness. For 10,000 years he has been interred upon the golden throne. I can’t imagine what that what do to someone’s mind.
Hell is just a word,reality is far worse
Yes
Wait until the Emperor contacts the Lion.
The Emperor absolutely lost all feeling in his buttcheeks considering he's literally been sitting in the exact same spot for 10k years
He also definitely lost his mind, most likely hates how his empire turned out, and probably wants to die from the 10k years of dealing with the Warp spiritually and the physical agony of rotting away as a literal corpse, but those divine cheeks are clearly more important and deserve top priority here
/s, but fr tho he's going through HELL rn
I think “Yesterday’s savior” may be the most heartbreaking but apt description of how G-man feels about the person the emperor used to be upon seeing what little was left of him.
I think there may be more significance to that line about words being of grievous harm. I think G-man may have actually damaged the remnants of the emperor’s mind by making him strain his dwindling willpower and divide his attention in order to speak.
Ohhh . It hits hard.
G man? Doctor freeman..
I get the impression that its the golden throne that is keeping the Emperor trapped and unable to regenerate like a perpetual should. By trying to keep him alive the Emperors servants are preventing him from fully regenerating. To prove it youd have to turn off the throne, which would either be disastrous or let the Emperor fully regenerate
@@stevepalpatine2828cypher actually had planned on getting him off the throne but the Emperor himself told him to stop and that it wasn’t yet time.
I still like to believe that the emperor cares about his sons, he's just so mixed and not right in the head right now that you wont know what he really feels
He is the god emperor. A true living God. He sees the duality of everything due to the wide perspective of humanity and the universe that he has and unlike us or even primarchs who lack that perspective, he accepts it all as what is and leaves the effects of “love” and other emotions that seek to color everything we perceive to us mortals. In a sense he has transcended far beyond humanity and it’s biological/emotional trappings. “A father, not a father.” Both are true but only he can truly see that. The God emperor can be said to be a Buddhist deity.
Actually it's more that he's no longer able to feel those emotions. It was revealed in The End and The Death Vol. 2 that before going to face Horus, the Emperor separated and cast off the part of his soul containing among other things his love and compassion so that he would be able to fight and kill Hours, and so that he could endure what would follow afterward.
After reading the End and the Death volumes 1 and 2, I can verify that the Emperor both loves his sons and not right in the head
He cares about his sons like how an insane craftsman cares about his tools.
I think its possible he loves them, but he needs Guilliman to feel that way so he will go and fix the Imperium out of spite and such. Then again, its hard to express love and such when you literally threw your compassion into another dimension, and you're a bunch of shamans coming unglued in pure agony.
The fact that the Emperor essentially had to use every ounce of his godly psychic strength, just to be able to barely manage to say what amounted to "I'm so sorry. I love you, son." had me genuinely weeping.
Like a father on his deathbed.
He has moments left. Can barely do anything. And yet the most important thing he can impart to his son is to simply say “I love you, and you’re my final hope.” Out of everything he could have said to Guilliman, “go out do this” “go kill this” “fix this” instead, he simply says, “you’re my final hope, i love you, son.”
And what to think of Mortarion. What did he say to him in that same exact moment? Did he tell Mortarion he loved him too? He forgave him? In those moments of last necessity, did he tell his lost son there was hope? That he could save him from his chains? Did he tell him he was doomed? It is too late for change? That he is to die by Guillimans hands? Or even his own? Did he condemn his son, damn him to eternal suffering?
I love this scene so much.
I'm not entirely sure he was saying that, but I certainly think he was trying his best to sound genuine so that Guilliman can go on and do what he has to do.
I don’t read that in the conversation. Remember that Guilliman said the words were conditional.
The Emperor was using Guilliman’s love for him to steer him on a path. And worse, Guilliman knew that this is what the Emperor was doing.
Yeah, except no, that's not at all what he said.
@@LM-xw7ii As much as the lore has unwound and rewound itself, I think it's pretty clear that the emperor only came close to viewing one or two of his primarchs as 'sons'. Guilliman's real father was Konor.
Give The Emperor a bit of a break, for over 10,000 years he's fought chaos, power the astronomican, and part knowledge on key individuals. All this while his body decays and his mind shattered to the point that there's no way to tell which one is truely him.
You forget about the webway portal,he has to keep that shit closed too.
@@alexbrinzan9061 forgot about that, thanks for the reminder. Also a thank you to Magnus the Red.
@@manhunter433 Magnus really damaged the imperium worse than anyone. But humanity screwed over the emperor by worshipping him. Due to the worship and the warp, the emperor could not properly be reborn.
It's as if the Emperor is battling through some great and terrible cosmic dementia, wrought by his overwhelming power; Trying to speak to Roboute through an ocean of minds and possibilities, and hoping that Guilliman can make sense of his words.
That last "Guiliman" sounded amazing, it almost sounded as if all the fractured pieces of the Emperor's mind he managed to pull together for this conversation were slowly being pulled back apart again and he delves back into his unending suffering for Humanity.
You did such an amazing job. People usually overembellish the emperors voice, trying to make him sound godly. But I've always imagined it like this. The voice of an old soul. Wise and calm, but at the same time tired and weary of carrying the weight of humankind itself on his shoulders.
Thank you very much! That means a lot. I was rather intimidated by attempting to portray the Emperor, with how large of a character he is so that is wonderful to hear.
and, my many thanks for watching!
@@danielquintonvo yeah I have to agree your voiceover for the emperor is perfect. Sounds like someone who has gone mad after 10,000 years of being on life support but is too god damn powerful for someone to pull the plug. Kinda reminds me of Optimus Prime if he went insane
It is just perfect and so soothing to the ear.
The fate of the Emperor is such a horrific tragedy to try to comprehend. Under all his godlike power he's still just a man. He has human emotions and human depth and human contradictions. He can't decide whether Guilliman is his final living son, his last connection to his own humanity, or just the last tool in his belt to try to reclaim what was lost. A champion for his vision or a broken failure like all his traitor primarchs. The broken mind of a man physically trapped in a rotting body by his own power. A mortal being with an immortal soul forced to carry the responsibility of a god.
I almost break down trying to wrap my head around it.
He is is son and he loves him with all his heart.
Very well worded. I had the impression that over the last 10k years, he became more and more a being of the warp. With all that that entails, great power yes, but borne of a place no soul should consciously be subjected to. It is incomprehensible to us, and he has endured it for so long that he's become part of it, sowed into it. He suffers greatly because of what it does to him while also trying to use the power his people give him to protect them and save them. Maybe he sees nothing, adrift in the warp, lost and surrounded by the impossible and his waking dreams of helping people are those moments we see his miracles.
@domenikschmitz334 No he doesn't. At no point during his living life did the emperor see his sons as anything other than a tool to be used and discarded.
@@mdc123-v2v the Emperor was the embodiment of the psychological dark triad
Especially if you recall that Dan Abnett wrote of Chaos God Malice, and how the Emperor is fated to become them.
DAMN! Your voice as the Emperor is great! Powerful and accusing, and then tired and sad. Truly emphasizes what has happened to the Emperor in the 10k years he has been interred unto the Throne.
Thank you greatly! It was a rather large task to take on a recording with the Emperor in it! I am pleased to know it worked out well.
My thanks for watching!
Fr, you really sold the big E. Would not be disappointed to hear you voicing him or any other “distant” godly figure.
@danielquintonvo question when are you going to return to vampire masquerade stuff from your break of it?
It seemed as if he was seeing and knowing millions of possible timelines, some where Guilliman may have taken to the side of Horus, others where he stayed true, becam neutral, was killed, etc...
I swear, I felt a heavy weight when I heard the voice
This reading really punched me in the guts. Truely heart felt.
My thanks! That means a lot
@@danielquintonvoPlease do the excerpt of the Burning of Nurgle's Garden or Khorne's attempt to corrupt Dorn inside the Vengeful Spirit.
@@danielquintonvoNo other reading I've heard yet really captured the horror and agony of the Emperor's internment like you did here. Phenomenal work.
You have to realise.
This is what Gulliman heard.
But Mortarion was there with him...
What did he hear?
What did the fallen lord of Barbaros hear, when his father spoke?
That is a question that I have had ever since I listened to the audiobook. Guilliman’s recollection of his conversation with the Emperor is fragmented. No two recollections the same. Plus, as we’ve seen in some of the other books, it is possible to hold a conversation with the Emperor through a vivid enough memory, such as when Horus talked to Him during the Siege through the memory he had of when he sweared fealty to the Emperor.
@@BDL3035
"Mortarion" He said
"14th" He said
...
We don't need to guess because the Emperor did indeed speak to Mortarion, albeit through Guilliman, later on in this series.
‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. ‘Does He not speak to you?’
- then a little later...
‘You are a traitor,’ Guilliman said, in a voice that was not quite his own. ‘You have brought low all that could have been, but you are as much a victim as a monster, Mortarion. Perhaps one day you might be saved. Until then, you must go back to the master you chose.’
Mortarion was not in the throne room with Guilliman
@@maxstr the book literally says he was. Via the memory.
As beautiful as this scene is, part of me wishes we also got Mortarion's POV of seeing Emps and realising just how mighty Emps is and what he destroyed by betraying the Imperium
You have to realise.
This is what Gulliman heard.
But Mortarion was there with him...
What did he hear?
What did the fallen lord of Barbaros hear, when his father spoke?
Was he called the 14th?
Was he called a betrayer?
A double agent?
Beautiful?
Mortarion would see the reality. A corpse of a dying psyker barely holding on with help of a machine...
@@BananenbaumEY I think it would start like that, but then Morty would see the true might of the Emperor. He would see the reason the Chaos Gods call him the Anathema. But then the power would fade, and he'd see the broken corpse again. But now he'd know what that corpse was hiding, and what it's death means for humanity and the warp
@@thatonebisexualnerd1370 what does it mean for the warp?
I truly felt the despair and wrongness within your depiction of the Emperor, this is superb work!
Thank you very much! I am very glad that came across, hearing it means a lot.
My thanks for watching!
THIS is how Ive always seen this scene in my mind. Holy shit you did this extremely well
That means a lot to me! I am glad I could record it to your liking.
My thanks for watching!
Well done
Mortarion was right about one thing.
His father is dead. The Emperor is not the same person he was during the crusade.
There may be love there still... but millennia of suffering on an unimaginable scale would erode everything from you. Strip you to your barest nature and take even that away. The Emperor fights because that's all he can do. He can't even die.
A machine once of preservation turned to one of eternal torture, keeping keeping alive something which was meant to die long, long ago. Not unlike the Imperium itself.
This is explained in further detail in the Siege of Terra. I strongly encourage everyone read the terrible choice the emperor had to make to defeat Horus at the end of the series. Truly riveting storytelling from Dan Abnett and crew
@@mogim815its been retconned i think, golden throne isnt keeping emperor alive in fact i think if he wasnt on the golden throne he would have recovered by now. Emperor is alive because of his own power and the golden throne needs massive amount of it to protect humanity, if emperor ever gets off the throne he might recover but humanity is doomed. Also thing to note good part of the emperor was cut out before fight with horus so its still out there somewhere, so there is still hope for emperor to come back from this. Not that it will ever happen as 40k is gonna get milked forever
I thought Big E was a perpetual, so wouldn’t death be the preferred outcome in this instance?
He can die. He is dying since 10.000 years. That’s why they call him the corpse emperor
6:28 there is nothing more painful then conditional love
I think what guilliman feels is kinda same as adult whos parent has lost memory of them
Such a sympathetic reading of the Emperor’s plight. He is powerful and yet so powerless at the same time. Although he is kept alive on the throne he also powers it. He is in a constant cycle of being broken down and remade, always in pain. He has been in that state for ten thousand years, powering the Astronomican and surveying mankind’s plight in the Galaxy, as it is beset by enemies, the worst being the Chaos gods and their daemons. But he cannot leave. It took all of his concentration and might to speak to his son, with the sound of ancient but failing machinery in the background, to his last but brightest hope “Guilliman.”
while The Great Devourer is creeping closer and closer hidden in the shadow in the Warp.
Why cant they just.... swap power sources for the chair, or at least the parts that regenerate him
@@gamerboiiiiiii Because the Emperor IS the power source. The Golden Throne was meant to allow humanity access to webway, with him just sitting on it, guiding people and allowing humanity to eventually safely turn into psychic species. Unfortunately it was damaged during Heresy and since he is the one who actually build it and the only one who understands its inner workings (there is also some implication that it uses xenotech - possible the Old Ones technology, so good luck with finding anyone who actually knows what they'd be doing) and with how dependent humanity is on the damned thing (since it now powers Astronomicon) it's just impossible to tinker with it. Plus, the whole religious dogma.
5:55 that is *perfection*.
The tone, the music, the warped voice implying the terrible effort it takes for this lost, doomed man to collect enough of himself to speak the name.
god damn! I've heard many versions of the God Emperor speaking, but this does give me chills. It fits his current state so perfectly, the amount of souls and power coursing through him.
Fantastic job once again!
Thank you very much, that means a lot to me! It was a tough ask to record so I am glad it could have a desired effect!
My thanks for watching!
(The transcript:)
He was in the dust of a corpse-king’s court. He was before a resplendent Emperor for all the ages.
‘Father,’ he said, and when he had said that word, it was the last time he had meant it. ‘Father, I have returned.’ Guilliman forced himself to look up into the pillar of light, the screaming of souls, the empty-eyed skull, the impassive god, the old man, yesterday’s saviour. ‘What must I do? Help me, father. Help me save them.’
In the present, in the past, he felt Mortarion’s wordless presence at his side, and felt his fallen brother’s horror.
He looked at the Emperor of Mankind, and could not see. Too much, too bright, too powerful. The unreality of the being before him stunned him to the core. A hundred different impressions, all false, all true, raced through his mind.
He could not remember what his father had looked like, before, and Roboute Guilliman forgot nothing.
And then, that thing, that terrible, awful thing upon the Throne, saw him.
‘My son,’ it said.
‘Thirteen,’ it said.
‘Lord of Ultramar.’
‘Saviour.’
‘Hope.’
‘Failure.’
‘Disappointment.’
‘Liar.’
‘Thief.’
‘Betrayer.’
‘Guilliman.’
He heard all these at once. He did not hear them at all. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being.
‘Roboute Guilliman.’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. ‘Guilliman. Guilliman. Guilliman.’
The name echoed down the wind of eternity, never ceasing, never reaching its intended point. The sensation of many minds reached out to Guilliman, violating his senses as they tried to commune, but then one mind seemed to come from the many, a raw, unbounded power, and gave wordless commands to go out and save what they built together. To destroy what they made. To save his brothers, to kill them. Contradictory impulses, all impossible to disobey, all the same, all different.
Futures many and terrible raced through his mind, the results of all these things, should he do any, all or none of them.
‘Father!’ he cried.
Thoughts battered him.
‘A son.’
‘Not a son.’
‘A thing.’
‘A name.’
‘Not a name.’
‘A number. A tool. A product.’
A grand plan in ruins. An ambition unrealised. Information, too much information, coursed through Guilliman: stars and galaxies, entire universes, races older than time, things too terrifying to be real, eroding his being like a storm in full spate carves knife-edged gullies into badlands.
‘Please, father!’ he begged.
‘Father, not a father. Thing, thing, thing,’ the minds said.
‘Apotheosis.’
‘Victory.’
‘Defeat.’
‘Choose,’ it said.
‘Fate.’
‘Future.’
‘Past.’
‘Renewal. Despair. Decay.’
And then, there seemed to be focusing, as of a great will exerting itself, not for the final time, but nearly for the final time. A sense of strength failing. A sense of ending. Far away, he heard arcane machines whine and screech, close to collapse, and the clamour of screams of dying psykers that underpinned everything in that horrific room rising higher in pitch and intensity.
‘Guilliman.’ The voices overlaid, overlapped, became almost one, and Guilliman had a fleeting memory of a sad face that had seen too much, and a burden it could barely countenance. ‘Guilliman, hear me.
‘My last loyal son, my pride, my greatest triumph.’
How those words burned him, worse than the poisons of Mortarion, worse than the sting of failure. They were not a lie, not entirely. It was worse than that.
They were conditional.
‘My last tool. My last hope.’
A final drawing in of power, a thought expelled like a dying breath.
‘Guilliman…’
The emotion you put into Guilliman's voice is exceptional, like you're truly pouring some part of yourself into the role. He sounds like a stoic demigod brought close to tears. Really excellent work.
"Is he gone... Finally. About fucking time. Dorn, you can come out of your box fort now, he's gone. I swear to fucking god, the chanting in my head was deafening. I was about to lose my hearing, and my eardrums rotted away millennia ago."
"You cannot lose your hearing twice, father."
"How un-fucking-fortunate. God damn it Rogal. Go back in your box fort."
"No."
Dammit, Goldylocks, this is why I told you to shut off his life support millenia ago!
Why do I read this in TTS voice, damn it
I love this scene because, even though G-man comes away feeling cold, I can’t help but feel this is, partially, a genuine display of affection from The Emperor. I mean, he hasn’t done this in ten thousand years. He’s spoken through people by giving them visions and what have you, but he’s never committed to the massive force of will necessary to actually speak with anyone. Until his son came back. That’s kinda beautiful I think.
If you’ve read the last heresy book , I think it’s just the two aspects of the emperor from when he split to fight Horus. I take it as the god emperor is a fragmented mind but when he is needed most the fragment with his humanity comes out. No matter what people say the emperor loved his sons(creations), theres a scene where he’s trying to fix angron and you can see that killing angron would have been the expedient choice but he couldn’t do it, for the slight chance he could be saved. Creations or sons it doesn’t matter, he made them to him they are the same. What king wouldn’t see his son as a tool , it doesn’t mean he doesn’t care for them. I love the scene where he suggests even mortarion could be saved and how in the last book they even say the emperor knew if he killed Horus he’d have been broken anyway and would have followed a path to damnation.
slight chance he could be saved? if you are talking about his surgery scene that's absolutely not what he kept angron around and you know it
he saw angron as a useful tool and weapon, something which could still fight and conquer, he didn't have empathy for Angron, he used Angron
@lukeBryen2 I ain't reading that bro
@@nicholasbrown668 The Emperor has zero interest of his planets to be ruins, graveyards. He needs prosperity, unity and resources to fuel his crusade to unite humanity. Angron did the opposite. He was a mad dog that butchered the innocent and ruined his whole Legion. The Emperor did try to cure Angron but in doing so it would kill him. He loved his son, in a way, but didn't really showed it. Also the Emperor created his sons to be administrators, not butchers. Angron had healing powers if i recall correctly. His purpose was the exact opposite of what he became. He was broken but still he was his son.
What about Lorgar? The Emperor warned him multiple times for decades but Lorgar ignored him. His father had enough and punished him by razing Monarchia but not before evacuating the population. Again, the Emperor wants to avoid needless death.
Angron was to be the healer, Konrad the Judge, Perturabo the builder etc.etc. all progressive roles for his Empire but fate had other plans.
Sorry but the Emperor loved his sons, he had A LOT of patience and trust and in the end that was his undoing.
@@Shadowhunterbg your comment would make sense if the Emperor didn't rationalize keeping Angron alive specifically because of his ruthlessness and effectiveness and even told Arkan Land that
the Emperor didn't care about his sons
also you mean the evacuation that also came with purges of the population? that evacuation? and the Emperor who openly allowed one of his sons to brutally torture people? you say he cares about human life? the evacuation where Ultramarines killed anyone who refused to evacuate? the evacuation where Ultramarines literally told a woman "move or I will kill you with the heathen words still in your mouth"?
@@nicholasbrown668 You're hanging on to one version of The Emperor written by one author, who deliberately made him ambigous by having different people see different aspects of him. So you're not even using the full interpretation. He is a millenia old godlike being and his sons are likewise immortal demigods, they're not ging to play catch or get tucked in (incidentaly, this is exactly what he did do with Horus, the son he got to raise, instead of brainwashing him into mindless servitude). Seriously, the whole argument falls apart the moment you ask "Why didn't he just use his godlike powers and super space tech to brainwash all the primarchs into mindless servitude, why did he let them keep their free will and humanity?". No answer. Every retcon to make him more callous opened a billion plot holes and made the story dumber because surprisingly a lot of the story hinged on the guy who willingly endures millennia of the worst torture imaginable for the sake of his species being kind of capable of love and humanity.
I have been waiting for you to drop this. Amazing. The Emperor strikes me as a need to protect humanity rather than a culmination of consciousness. The Emperor protects.
Thank you very much!
why am i crying? holy shit this is AMAZING
It would be amazing to hear your interpretation of guilliman being possessed by the emperor and burning the garden of nurgle from godblight! Absolutely love listening to your readings.
It is on the list, I shall certainly be uploading that at some point!
and my thanks for watching!
The throne, that cursed golden prison. Removed, he must be removed from the throne. A prison for the body, and the body a prison for the soul. Ten millennia of prayers and sacrifices, wishes and belief all empowering him, turning him into a single great being.
@Tigran-Abazyan that isn’t the problem. The problem is that A.) the chaos gods will do literally whatever they can to keep him on the throne and keep it working. Because they know that once he is free from it their time is over. B.) the second he _is_ removed, the entire solar system will be engulfed in a massive warp storm that makes the eye of terror look like a calm breeze thanks to a special security device that Vulcan made before he disappeared.
@@ender_slayer3 one Last thing we dont know whether big E will turn into a good god if that happens or become the DARK KING and be the 5th chaos god,dooming humanity while also killing all the other chaos gods leaving the eldar who survive ,necrons and tau to fight it out for supremecy. And lets be honest unless the eldar get theyr Last blade în that Time and wake up that death god the necrons win the setting should this path be taken.
I agree. The Emperor needs to be removed from that stupid lump of gold. Put somewhere where he can finally truly rest in peace.
@@stephenbyrne2170 Rest? Oh no, with his body no longer being maintained by the arcane machinations of the Golden Throne it will turn to dust, his soul will converge into a singular mote, and he will be reborn!
@@ender_slayer3 As WHAT?
One of the best parts of the dark imperium trilogy voiced? Hell yeah!
I wasn’t ready for the weight of this.. the emperor, guilliman and especially everyone’s comments, yall hit me in the feels and I wasn’t prepared
Wow now that we know he cast off the best parts of his soul this means alot more
It’s funny.. When I look at my boy, I think my pride and my greatest triumph. As a father, I can relate but not for the final time, not yet. Only a father knows.
Gosh, I have heard this scene interpreted before but the way you cast inflection... the heart of it. Magnificent. Absolutely impossibly executed. This is now how I will always remember and feel this scene.
This moment to me signifies that the Emperor is never coming back in a human capacity, but rather as something completely different that will be unfamiliar to all that knew him.
A big reason for why the emp comes across as so cold is because the part of his soul that would have compassion and love for the primarchs is all but gone:
"My lord and friend has broken off a part of his soul. He has amputated that
portion of himself that contains almost all of his hope, loyalty and
compassion, for such things will become a hindrance when he faces the
Lupercal. Those qualities might stay his hand, or make him hesitate if he is
ultimately obliged to kill.
And if he is obliged to kill his son, then those qualities would afterwards,
and inevitably, drive him to self-hatred and regret, and condemn him to the
same, embittered path as Horus. He has excised those precious human
aspects to further steel himself against the pain of what will come after, and
the mandatory atrocities he will have to countenance in order to rebuild the
Imperium. He has set those frail and cardinal virtues adrift on the tides of
the empyrean so that they will not immobilise him.
And in the hope that one day, he will be able to reclaim them, and be
whole again.
"
- Malcador the Sigillite
You did such an amazing job with this one. As many as you have done, as great as they are, this shines among them. Thank you.
My many thanks! That means a lot
I think what is happening to the Emperor here is his slow transformation into godhood. We know that in WH40k, gods are a result of prayers, thoughts, souls and concepts created by sentient species. Gods are not so much single, sentient organisms, but more like omnipotent forces of nature. They don't make single conscious decisons, but so much as just act based on the thoughts, prayers, souls, etc. that they are comprised of. While the Emperor is technically stll alaive and technically still has a soul of immense willpower, I believe he's being psychically ripped apart, and remade to better reflect the desires and beliefs of all humans who worship in him. Its why it feels like he has so many different voices and so many different opinions on Guilliman, but the Emperor isn't really a single person anymore.
Great narration! Stellar job!
My thanks! For the thoughts on the piece and the compliment, it all means a lot!
People say that the emperor didn’t care about his sons. Perhaps that’s the facade he needed to be logical and cold since emotion was what led to the collapse. But it’s evident in spurts that he loves them.
I've always wanted to see such a wholesome family moment between him and all his sons. Alas, that will never happen!
Didn't he have to cast away his love for them before his battle with Horus to avoid becoming the Dark King and to bring himself to fight his own son? It wouldn't help much to cast it away unless it was something significant right?
@@bruh-ux1nsHe didn't cast it away to avoid becoming the Dark King.
When He used the warp power He had absorbed to fight Horus in order to look into the future (Ollanius begged Him to do so) He saw that He would become a Chaos God (and kill all of himanity) if He tried to defeat Horus by simply overpowering him.
That horrified Him and He relinquished all the strength He had drawn from the warp. But He knew that by doing so He would be forced to confront His now godlike son as a man. He also knew that even if He somehow survived that fight and won He would be too wounded to do anything but regulate the Throne and keep the door closed on the Ruinous Powers for the next tenthousand years.
Thus he would be unable to keep the Imperium from turning into the nightmare we now know it as.
Casting aside his empathy was the only thing he could think of to counter the effect that fate would have on Him, because He knew, that being forced to witness and tolerate such horror for tenthousand years would drive Him completely insane otherwise.
I have listened to this more than 50 times. And it is without reservation my absolute favorite reading of any 40k text yet.
The emotion. The editing. The music. All are just fucking sublime.
Your voice through my subwoofer literally knocked a picture off my wall. Nice.
The part at the beggining when he feels Mortarion's presence at his side representing his doubts gave me goose bumps!
Imo this is the Emperor trying to break through millennia of unfiltered omnipotentence to put into words the complete depth of his despair, horror, resignation, and anger; while fighting it with his immense will with the overwhelming volume of hope and love that counterbalances it into a NEED.
Thus why he sees Guilliman as both Son, and tool.
I empathise with Guilliman here as this was my feeling when talking to my dying father who needed me - his immature and unprepared son- to take on the burdens of his duties in the family.
He was hopeless.
Helpless.
But needed me to be his tool to complete the works of his life.
Whole that was a priority
For his personal goals, it was balanced with pride in me, despite not being fully up to the task, and a deep love for me.
It's a powerful sequence.
Very well written.
I have only recently started my journey into Warhammer, and your performance here was extremely powerful. The Emperor's voice gave me chills, and really helped to illustrate the dire state of affairs in the 41st millennium.
Great work, you've earned a subscriber!
I am very glad I could be of aid to your journey! It's a fantastic universe to just get lost in.
My thanks for subscribing, and watching!
I am crying, like this is really his last words and left us. i still can't beleive to this
That song choice is perfect down to the name! It helped me through some tough years a decade ago. Thanks again for your wonderful renditions.
I am very glad you think so, and I am very glad I happened to choose this song, too! It is a fantastic piece.
and as always, my thanks for watching!
This was it. This was damn amazing man. I love your interpretation so much, especially that fleeting voice at the end.
Thank you very much! That means a lot to hear, it was a daunting thing to record!
My thanks for watching!
Only 40K can make me feel for a giant psychic skeleton on a gold-plated throne. And DQVO brought it to life enough for me to shed tears.
Your emperor-voice has that dark souls quality to it, and is the best rendition I've ever heard of the emperor thus far. I'd love to see more excerpts of the emperor voiced by you!
Oh that does mean a lot to me, I adore Dark Souls and its voice acting!
I shall certainly see what I can find and put it on the list!
My thanks for watching!
@@danielquintonvo Of course, it's a pleasure. I remember Orson Wells saying something to the effect of "full enunciation of every word makes a commanding voice,". Playing this back, I can see the parts I really liked being where I did actually hear every word fully pronounced, such as "defeat". It's very clear, it's very final. You get the picture! Best of luck.
This excerpt (wonderful voicework, DQVO) enforces a theory I've had for a while; that the Emperor is no longer a single entity. Ten-thousand years of worship by untold trillions have spawned within him, or perhaps mutilated his soul into, multiple entities.
This is similar to how the orks are able to alter reality around them with the power of belief, only it's all focused on one individual. Each one of these entities is an embodiment of what the people of the Imperium imagine the Emperor of Mankind to be: mercy, vengeance, power, judgment, salvation, damnation. A cacophony of strands that once formed a singular man, each one believing themselves to be the Emperor; each one both right and wrong.
Ironically it's this torn apart nature that allows the EoM to focus his will in so many directions at once, with the daily sacrifice of psykers sustaining his endeavors and preventing the individual strands from falling apart. However it also makes any attempt at a focused endeavor (talking to Guilliman, burning Nurgle's garden) an arduous endeavor, requiring him to pull the strands together beneath his will. When he achieves this though, he becomes more powerful than he ever was when he walked freely; a cruel irony for a staunch atheist to be empowered by the faith of others.
Even worse, many of the strands are openly defiant towards him, representing embodiments of the lies that the Ecclesarchy has fashioned of his nature over the millennium. He is literally having to fight pieces of his own soul on top of everything else. And as the false faith continues, it will only get worse.
God, you do great work. This scene is one of my favorites, you really brought it to life. For all that everyone says the Emperor was wrong, I don't know if any of us could order ourselves wired into the only thing that will keep mankind alive, while knowing exactly what will happen.
I’ve never read Warhammer 40k, I’ve never played the games, I didn’t even know it existed before 2022, and I’ve only read a few articles. I’m a diehard Halo fan, but this hits HARD
Gods. I'm amazed Gulliman didn't just step out and be like, "right-o, time to give up this pointless gig."
This was truly awesome to hear. You brought so much emotion and power to these lines. When later at end Emps said 'Guilliman'...in that slow..all powerful voice...that had me at chills. Love it. Keep up the amazing work
Thank you very much! That does mean a lot to me!
Timestamps for all direct dialogue spoken (for edits and stuff)
Gulliman:
0:21
0:31
0:52
4:02
4:46
Emperor:
1:56
2:01
2:06
2:43
2:56
4:08
4:50
5:04
5:56
6:13 (Gulliman. Hear me.)
6:43
6:57
This made me want to call my dad.
It made me remember my dad.
@@Mreyna310this.
@h8tm3
Plenty would if they still could.
Get him to send you voice notes if you can, it's a miracle I can still hear my Pa encourage me when I've had a rough day.
This is heartbreaking, honestly all of Warhammer is heartbreaking for how far humanity had fallen and we still fight on.
That was really good!!!! It does allow for the answering of some questions of Guilliman's meeting with the Emporer. A very intense revelation of what the Golden Throne does to maintain the Emporer.
Thank you very much!
Such a great portrayal of this scene it genuinely brought me to tears that the emperor in all his godly psychic might had to give everything he had just to tell Guilliman to keep his head up and keep going.
Fantastic as always, you handled big E extremely well.
Thank you very much! That means a lot, tackling the Emperor was a rather daunting task.
and, my thanks for watching!
Really good pacing and background music, its all perfect for this scene
The Emperor has suffered the worst fate of anyone in science fiction.
*_"Guilliman, hear me. My last loyal Son. My pride. My greatest triumph."_*
I always anticipate Guilliman to respond: *_"I'm here Father...."_*
The Fanmade conversation between the Emperor and Guilliman at least left a little hope for our favourite blueberry, this just leaves a feeling of tragedy for the big guy! Fantastic as always!
Thank you very much!
Cut me to the core. Well done wordsmith
Thank you for your great job, I am shaken to the core with what I listened here. I comeback here time to time to listen it and everytime I get goosebumps
Puts the will and fortitude of the companions into prospective when they have to listen to the Emperors voice and bear the power of being in the Throne room for years, some end their time and their Armour is scorched by the psychic might of the Emperor, some who come to replace a companion fail as soon as they enter because its too much.
Guilliman had mere moments with the Emperor, and it nearly broke him.
I know little about warhammer the memes and jokes but putting that all aside the stories of these different characters are interesting and dark but very good moments like these caches my attention and its very good.
He's giving Gilliman free will. This is the crux of it. A child trained. Now
Just wanted to say, i was brought here from my revisit to Horus Rising. I feel like you nailed the emperor. Great job!
I feel for Gulliman, my bio dad was a horrible person who wished I would have someone die because of my mistakes (I was a medic in the army) and it was my stepdad (who 100% is my father) who helped me through alot in my life.
Yut
Blood is such a small part of what makes someone 'family' I find, and that's why I love the more human moments that these demi-gods get, even in the most insanely over the top fantasy and sci-fi we can find such wonderful messages and meanings!
and, my thanks for watching!
They are related to the Emperor by BLOOD. They are truly his sons.@@danielquintonvo
I’m sorry you have to deal with that my guy. My own family abandoned me as well. My in laws became my family. The black hole inside has its days but the love of my true family more than counter acts it. I hope and pray that your step dads love does that for you. Thank you for sharing and thank you for your service.
Wow! This writing is incrdible! Voice acting 10/10
My many thanks!
"They were not a lie, not entirely. It was worse than that. _They were condititional._"
I see some people in the comments here interpreting the last section of Big E talking to Guilleman as the Emperor trying to say he loves Lil' G. I think that is an utter misunderstanding of the quote above here. The Emperor burned hundreds of psykers, hundreds of screaming, suffering, souls, to pull his mind together again just long enough to remind Guilleman that he loves him only so long as he's useful. To remind him he's a tool.
You cannot convince me the galaxy wouldn't have been better off if the Emperor had never been born. No Chaos Space Marines, no big fancy light to draw in the Tyranids, no endless battlegrounds to make bigger and better orks, the Interex would still exist, the Tau wouldn't have the Imperium to be a bad influence on them, the Dark Eldar would be entirely unchanged, the Eldar would actualyl be able to accomplish anything without having their plans ruined by deathwatch, and the Necrons would all be busy fighting each other without the Silent King rushing back home to unify them out of fear of the Tyranids.
Perhaps......
On the one hand it sounds like he cares about his sons, on the other you remember this was suppose to be Magnus' fate. Fantastic job!
Thought the emperor was gonna take over the webway so he wouldn’t have to do that
@@griffinflyer77 Holding the webway sphincter closed is the most demanding task of powering the astronomicon. With that out of the way the throne wouldn't be as terrible a fate.
Real world thunder was happening out of the blue on a summer day, and I had a divine experience.
As a thunder roar matched with HIS FINAL WORD.
I think I understand what happened here finally. Guilliman heard mixed messages about being both a son and a tool because he personally struggles with that concept so The Emperor is reflecting that upon him. The Emperor said "Father, not father, thing" because secretly that is part of how Guilliman saw him as he sat dead looking on the throne. I think The Emperor was letting him see he saw the conflict within Guilliman and could read all his thoughts and was making him confront them. At the end he did say he was his last hope and he seemed to still have a lot of faith in him.
This is an absolute masterpiece. You nailed the moment so well.
Holy sh!t, this was incredible! 😢 Thank you very much, keep up the good work!
Thank you very much! I shall do my best to do so!
I found the two most striking to be;
- he called him "son" as one of the first things.
-"Save your brother" was said before telling him to destroy it.
Whether the emperor is still himself to some extent, or simply the sum of every sacrificed psyker, blended together, it is clear a part of the emperor cares about guilliman and his brothers.
TTS Emp "ooooh what took you so long, you big blue boy? "
And with Magnus as well as little Kitten as well as his brothers
Well Big E was trying to get Kitten to wake him up, but phrased it poorly
I would pay to see the final installment.
love this scene, I hope if the Star Child plot thread comes through we get a second scene of them speaking to compare
if it does. i'd hope they go with the route that the star child is the largest fragment of the emperors soul. taken on a life of its own as it did before the ritual that birthed the man it was once a part of.
You nailed the Emperor, it was just a booming voice it was authentic to the sad tragedy that is the Emperor of Mankind.
A falling last hope.
I am not crying, just had a pauldron in my eye...bravo Maestro, great acting
The fact even a fragment of the Emperor seems to think his brother can be saved is fascinating. Think a traitor can be pulled back?
The pain of a human being elevated to godhood against his will. Like putting an ocean into a balloon sized container, ripping the container apart and requiring an incredible amount of strength to bring the scraps back together. No wonder he abhorred the idea of being a god as the level of suffering is literally unimaginable
They should have installed some sort of device so the emperor can talk and doesn't have to use telepathy, it could be some sort of text to speech device
Too bad that the stc for that wasnt found
What? That’s not in the warhammer universe
It wouldn't work since words don't do justice to the ideas being pushed into Guilliman's mind.
@@vengeance8924 cause it's a dumb idea. Good for memes but little else.
yea i agree. I really don't think people understand what big E is actually up to. He is saying everything and nothing at the same time. Guilliman is probably hearing what he wants to hear. what he chooses to hear. and its just that simple. I don't think its intended for us to understand what is being said. But besides all that, text to speech is lightyears away from their primitive technology. They could never hope to have that.
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The most important thing that was said is "Choose." Hope or despair. Death or life.
I never heard him talk before. At his size you think his voice booms through the room.
Beautiful work with the tone and emotion in that last line.❤