Stargate SG-1 - Fair game (S03E03)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The supreme commander of the Asgard fleet (Thor) and three Goa'uld System Lords (Cronus, Nirrti & Lord Yu) meet at Stargate Command to negotiate a treaty modification, but subterfuge and treachery threaten not only the success of the negotiations, but Earth itself.
I like the slight nod Chronos gave. He may not like them, but he respected them for a moment
Considering he was probably used to sycophants, slaves, and primitives a human who snarks at him might have been a nice change of pace.
He's probably thinking a System Lord with O'Neill's personality and wit would make the meetings more entertaining.
Over all this was a major win for Chronos
take out a rival.
absorb part if not all her territory
All he had to do was use his vote to not attack Earth
Saberian Dream yeah but what are the chances the Tauri can do major damage... from his point of view.
Spoiler. I know what happens to Chronos
Saberian Dream yes but earth keeping its gates was O'neills condition if he could deliver Nirtii.
cruel evil despots they maybe but they understood the idea of agreements. there are examples:
Chronos wanted the one who tried to kill him Earth got it Stargate.
Jackson foiled Osiris attempt to murder Yu. Yu spares Tealc.
Even Sokhar stopped his attack on the Earthgate after they gave him back Apophis
Yu benefits from this treaty as well, by having other forces to deal with his rivals, is better than having his own deal with it.
@@saberiandream316 until the annoying dogs has guns and alliance with lions and bears
@@jonreese7066 Well the gould's don't seem to have much in the way of scientists (It would clash with their whole "gods" mythos and their tech is shown to have made minimal advancement over 5000 yrs) So they wouldn't expect the Tauri to be able to become much of a threat and it's always handy to be seen as trustworthy.
I enjoyed that this first delegation of System Lords was made up of entirely different pantheons than the Egyptians the show started with. Really broadened the scope of what we could see in the future. Greeks, Asians, Hindi gods, etc.
Then we saw that same diversity in season 5 summit and last stand
@@thehistoryguy4277 Which made sense when you think of it. Each Pantheon of Gods always has their more powerful ones. Zeus, Jupiter, Odin, Ra, Vishnu, Shiva, etc. I'm sure each pantheon of Gods' more powerful ones were actually each "factions" System Lords.
"Anyone caught will be shown no mercy." Darn - they showed such mercy before that.
Because they have to, when they are discussing the alliance between Go'aulds and Asgards to protect Earth by Asgards.
That sounds like something Jack would've said if he hadn't had his coffee
"So another day in the office, then?"
The point was that earth is a save haven, but anywhere but earth is _still_ fair game for killing and torture.
The emphasis is that "not killing tau'ri on earth" is not the same as "not killing tau'ri period"
The greatest triumph for diplomacy possible. Maintain the status quo.
Good ol papa thor waiting in orbit ready to protect his baby tauri if need be
I hope that wasn't a dig at him, after all, all you did was experiment on us...
@@MrPibb23x The Asgard have shown us to never give up our balls and boobies. Giving that to nature is like giving your guns to a tyrant.
the username makes the next comet so much funyer
Puny god
“Boy is she gonna get it!”
“My heart bleeds!”
😂😂😂
Apophis: "You lie poorly."
; )
Out of all the system lords, I like Ba'al the most, he was willing to at least work with Earth, potentially the Jaffa if only to keep them from being a problem. In Continuum is a perfect example, he shows up to Earth, calls the president, and says, "Hey, no worries, Im not here to threaten you but do business with you." Sure he would have done it for self serving reasons, but it would have kept the humans at bay. So not so much because he likes humans, but in that they stand to be a serious problem that can be stopped, if in the beginning, simple small concessions are made and bam, problem solved. Same thing with the Jaffa _"Hey Tealc, I know you want to free the Jaffa, you know what, sure why not, have a planet, hell have two planets for all I care, Want to come work for me? Sure why not."_ Ba'al would have the entire galaxy in the palm of his hand, what's a few planets compared to that.
That's why I like Ba'al he may be prideful but he's not so prideful he can't be a bit pragmatic on certain things.
Well Ba'al also had hindsight compared to the Other System Lords. He wasn't a major system lord until Anubis was defeated. Before that he was probably a midranking Goa'uld. He saw for years how the Tauri who were technologically more primitive essentially chip away at the Goa'uld empire for years. Were finally able to build weapons that could match the Goa'uld in less than 10 years with help from the Asgard. He realizes how much of a threat they were by continuum and how the Jaffa rebellion turned out as well. You have to remember Ba'al is old, he saw the systems lords rule unopposed for ages only surpassed by the Asgard then comes little Earth and in what less than 10 years of gate traveling, essentially brought the system lords down to their knees leaving just him at the end. He's not as arrogant because most of that time he wasn't a major player who had his empire ultimately destroyed by the Tauri or the Jaffa. By the time he got to be so powerful he realized just how dangerous the Tauri were. I mean compare to the Tokra which spend thousands of years trying to bring the Goa'uld down, the Tauri managed to show up and accomplish it in 10 years, with help of course. But Ba'al by the end knew his time was limited and was only willing to negotiate and work with them to prolong his reign.
Yup he learned from the human's ... a little comprise can lead to BIG rewards ... giving the Jaffa their freedom made for very loyal guards ... sure they may not kill themselves for frivolous reasons anymore ... BUT they will fight and die for the cause they believe in ... and their freedom would go hand in hand with defeating the other system lords with Ba'al leading ... they would do no problem
@@kaboom-zf2bl not to mention by removing the Tauri from the galaxy he also essentially removed 2 additional enemies. The Ori never found the milkway and never invaded, and the Asgard would lose the war to the replicators without our help. Although the only plot hole is the replicators not taking over the galaxy since nobody had the technology or weaponry to stop them aside from us
@@lifeinjersey9846 I always felt he was working in the shadows with files saying if the Tauri defeat (insert system lord) how to swoop in
I figured he was waiting for a big juicy prize like Anubis to fall
@@rosemaryjones5550 That's the thing, he was waiting but he also picked a point where the system lords were at their weakest. By the tine Baal made his grab for power a good portion of the system lords were dead, the remaining ones were weak after fighting each other, the Tokra and the Jaffa Rebellion. I think Lord Yu and Amaterasu were the only systems lords left who could even remotely challenge Baal. And even then they approached the Tauri for an alliance.
Nice touch at the end with the shot of the Asgard ship leaving orbit
Yu would not want to be in her shoes
little joke there
Yu just had to got there, didn't you?
I don't get it. Oh hang on, it's Yu isn't it lol.
"Don't. Every joke, every pun, done to death. Seriously."
-Daniel Jackson
@@PaiSAMSEN yes by the way no relation
0:30 Is it me, or is he actually amused by O'neil answer?
ofc, like others goauld he is condescending and arogant, he is probably thinking oneil's bravery is funny, impressive, but futile
00:32. He's stomping off through the stargate cause his heavy metal hair band has a gig on his planet that night....they hate it when he's late!
Yeah its called Shol'va!
The Goa'uld arrogance is just amazing, telling the Tau'ri to stop using their gate. As if the Goa'uld think they own the Stargate System. But I think he's just saying that cause they are afraid of us. They have seen our strength will determination intelligence and weapons and realize we are a real thread to them.
also because at this time they already killed 2 System Lords
Cronus apparently became more powerful now. Nirrti is his prisoner and he now has control of her forces and territory
He is like... impressed by the answer of O’Neill ?
I believe it was more of a 'fair enough' than being impressed
gate sound at the very start sound awesome!
Just keep hitting 0 and it sounds like an energy weapon going off.
The actress that plays Nirrti is gorgeous.👍
My nickname for her was dr mengele
Yes..Jackie Samuda was quite a looker.
Yep, especially watching it when I was a teenager
Outer space aka British Coiumbia
We will not attack your world - but we will still keep talking in a weird voice.
O:32, was that the beginning of a smile?
Just a theory but it may have been a way of showing a slight bit of respect.
He acknowledged that the #SG1 is brave and they can match System lords in battle.
Didn't they save his life this episode though? Guess that counts for it too.
I think it was more of a look like well played human well played. And thanks for saving my life kinda thing.
They like war, so they respect bravery.
0:43 Oi Oi!! Wink wink!! Nudge nudge!!
i want to ascend the way they portray it in Stargate when my time comes. Im 34yrs old and i have CHF They said i can live for another 5 to 10 years maybe. Im poor so i won't be able to have my own car or money to enjoy myself now i live on about 450$ a month probably closer to 350 400.. it's not enough i need some charity thrown my way id like to enjoy life before my heart completely fails.
lmao loser
@@bendu49100 Fuck off.
how are you doing
Given that Daniel’s wife was taken as a host, and that woman is almost certainly innocent, I am surprised at his flippancy.
Nirrti has thousands of deaths on her hands.
It’s only the host that would be innocent.
@@skyserf That is what I said.
Daniel O'Donovan It wasn’t clear if you were defending the Goa’uld or the host. Either way Daniel has shown little regard for other Goa’uld specifically because of what happened to Sha'uri.
the host has been through in the Sarcophagus countless times, I doubt her mind is still intact.
I almost wonder if us Tauri is like a prized piece of meat for the Goa'uld, Ori, Replicators and even the Wraith.
Well, the series holds roots in the original movie, where it was pointed out how humans made perfect hosts and slaves. Plus we breed like rabbits.
Except for the Replicators, who just wanted resources and technology and to outbreed humans.
And then the Wraith who wanted humans for their meat.
Earth being a prized meat... For the Goa'uld, no they gave up earth after a minor rebellion. Until it became a minor threat after that it was protected by treaties then force. For the Ori, Earth was an obstacle keeping them from the potential worshippers in the milky way galaxy. And for the Wraith who were going through a major food shortage. Yeah, Earth was the ultimate prized meat.
In a galaxy mostly dominated by the Goa'uld, a planet developing a civilization counting up to 7 billion people was unheard of. Most of the galaxy was in a somewhat medieval state, scattered around in smaller villages, with the system lords capitals having some sort of resemblence to a bigger medieval city. I think it's even likely that there are more humans living on earth than Jaffa soldiers in the entire galaxy.
For the Ori and the Goa'uld that both meant lots of people that could praise them as gods and be their slaves. For the Replicators they probably just posed a threat, as their weapons could destroy them, unlke Goa'uld or Asgard weaponry.
Probably didn't get a lot of punishment, she was doing more experimenting later in the series.
She was exiled and her territories taken by Cronus. For a Goauld, that's a fate worse than being tortured until death and being revived time after time.
She did lose her power but she also proved to be slippery and escaped imprisonment.
OK, but Earth is still at war against Sokar and Heru'ur even after the negociations. These two are supposed to be a greater threat than those system lords.
Basically, the Earth became neutral with powers it ignored the existence.
Uhh... Heru'ur was a System Lord and therefore bound by this agreement?
@@KS-xk2so Apophis was also supposed to be a "system lord" but he was still seen as threat to earth in season 4, which is after "Fair Game". Heru'ur even tried to ally with Apophis against the system lords. He was the main enemy of the earth along with Sokar but he is not even mentioned in this episode. How am I supposed to believe he is part of the agreement?
Always seemed stupid that Nirrti never finished the job when she attacked Cronus and Tealc….She let them both live to inform everyone that there was an invisible assailant in the SGC……
Limited time. The guards would have heard it all going off
I am the first prime of the Lord Wu Galactic Empire Emperor
I would love to be his second in command of his fleet.
Indeed
I can't remember all of this episode... what happened, that they took her this way out of Cayenne mountain? ^^
Nirrti tried to murder Cronus and was later found out.
Cronus the alien and titan
and kratos killed him twice.
It went dark.
Cool
its like once there was a neutral symbiont race ... and later it split into evil goault and good trill-symbionts (those of star trek)...and then again the tokra split from the goault ones
And then somehow Nerti's invisibility technology was never spoken of again. 🙄
It got mentioned a few more times but you’re right, there was never any real attempt to replicate it.
What do you mean? She came to Earth to experiment on Cassandra while using her invisibility.
Poor audio sync.
I prefer the german synchro voices 😅