Stargate SG-1 - Heru'ur gets OWNED
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- Опубликовано: 1 сен 2007
- Clip from Stargate SG1's season 4 episode 14 "The Serpents Venom" where Heru'ur meets Apophis for a "peaceful" meeting but doesn't realise Apophis took an entire fleet with him.
Uploaded because it is one of Elliot's favourite scenes and he now lives in Hartlepool and doesn't have regular access to my DVD collection.
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''The deception is yours!'' Says the guy who brought an entire fleet with him when they were supposed to meet at neutral grounds....
My friend I know it's countless years later but each gou'ald is genetically related so basically he didn't take his nephew at his word and kills his brother ra son because he thought he would stab him in the back because that is what he would do if there position were reversed what a fucked up life form I bet you the atlantian were responsible for the creation of the goa'uld accident or not they were probably put in those lakes for the unas to eat 😀
@Mackenzie Bauroth Apophis did too, actually. Him coming to the SGC in "Serpent's Song" is him committing suicide-by-Tau'ri. Hoping Sokar would take them out along with him. He was talking tough but seemed to know it as the end.
You can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Basically if your surrounding by lying backstabber's it's better to be the betrayer than the betrayed.
Heru'ur's face when he realises Apophis has a whole fleet behind him...
He should have ordered his ship to enter hyperspace immediately when he saw that
@@smik4978 Or he should have sent for reinforcements.
Our faces when we see a cloaked fleet
@@smik4978 He should have riased shields then thry to enter hyperspace.
At that moment he knew... he f***ed up
This is a rough translation but Apophis basically said, and I quote, "Kiss your ass good bye, Heru'ur."
He says "know this Her'ru! You will die at the hands of Apophis"
@@Tylerpierre99
could've been
"yoo-hoo her'ur, i think your dead now"
"Your so dead, heru'ur."
They could've gotten far more mileage out of Heru'ur. He seemed cool but highly under utilized.
Yeah, a good bit of that happened with this show, then next thing you know, they're having to break out ridiculous stuff like the unkillable Anubis with his absurd levels of knowledge and resources or the lazy jab at christianity known as the Ori, because they used up practically all the interesting villains too soon..
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How Baal managed to make it to the end is a testament to actor playing him's charisma.
@@InfernosReaper Having n+1 clones of himself helped, too.
Same with Sokar; Sokar is still my favorite SG1 villain.
@São João do mundo Both Islam *and* Christianity are notorious for conversion by sword and war for their god. It's something they inherited from Judaism.
@@InfernosReaper 100% Agree. We should have seen all the Gods of Egyptian Pantheon fight over the power vacuum left by Ra and meet the Gods of the other surrounding pantheons in neighboring civilizations.
In Heru'ur's defense, it was deception.
Ever since that episode where they mentioned that "Cree!" was an equivalent to "Yoohoo" I can't take them seriously whenever they say it XD
Kree not Cree
It’s like saying Shalom
Jack O'Neill "You heard me, I said Kree"! or when he said "back at ya".
I think "Kree" has varied uses, depending on the context of the situation, but typically, it kinda means "hear me!" or "listen up!"
Rip Carmen Argenziano. May you never be forgotten!
Durge75 he was martuff right?
Oishii Kudasai no it was Samˋs father, Jacob/Selmak
0:05 me when mom cooks something other than chicken tendies
perfect
Apophis had one cool flagship!!!
rob kemp so did anubis. ;)
Too bad he died like a bitch.
The replicators thought so too.
@@realcashew4807 Sokar didn't have this mothership :/
@@logeusthemighty1105 Sokar originally designed it before Apophis took over his empire.
Heru’ur failed the number one Rule of the System lords, Kree before you are Kree’d
That “Oh Shit” expression gets me every time
If I had been Heru'ur I would have ordered the ship's commander to go into hyperspace immediately after he realized that Apophis was there with an entire fleet.
He wouldn't have had time to maneuver away from Apophis' ship before being fired upon. Seeing as Apophis' weapons were strong enough to wipe through Heruurs shields with only a couple shots, he was dead anyway.
As soon as his ship detected something happened, he should've gotten the hell out of dodge
It's all down to writing. They wanted Horus dead so they killed him. Realistically that's what the should have done though.
no you wouldn't - you'd have done exactly as heru-ur did, because that's what heru-ur did.
Aphopis: "Listen here you little shit!"
Heru'ur: "Bruh"
If only Teal'c had a dollar for everytime someone called him shol'var.
Apophis wasn't the one that broke the trust. His ships were cloaked simply for protection. From his point of view it was Heru'ur who broke his word.
'From my point of view the JEDI are evil!'
"Kree, Heru'ur! Shel Pak Rek Apophis."
I believe it means something like "Attention Heru'ur! Surrender/die before Apophis"
It is a pity we will never discover it, as far as I know there is no translation about it.
Everything about your profile pic and your comment is totally 90's :D
they never did a translation thing Goa'uld to English I think, so writers just sort of muddled through the linguistic bit
I've always thought it was something like 'attention heru'ur now you shall feel the wrath of apophis'.
Yoo-Hoo!
RIP Paul Koslo. I really love how he nailed the Goaulds' both darkn and weak sides in Terok here. 2019 seems to have taken so many SG-1 actors already..
@IJN Yamato As far as i know, Paul Koslo(the goauld Terok in this one) and Carmen Argenziano(Jacob Carter in the series)
@IJN Yamato true enough. but i still feel bad about already having lost 2 imo very good actors from my favourite show so early in the year. It's just a surprise every time you google someone's name to find out who played them and you see they died only 2 months ago.
@@iodreamify Rip Hammond
Apophis was by far the best gould system lord in stargate. He was straught gangsta!
I prefer sokar
Only for his time but they could have shown more of each system lord throughout the series
He brought Stargate to live Ball was ok I say Ball was more of a joker System Lord then a bad one in my books Apophis was the true bad ass he even out did Ra I say they should have let Maj Kawlski lived and let him and Lord Apophis have a few episodes more then what we seen
he died screaming though ba'al was my favorite when his end came he just got shot in the head
@@gateofthegods1332 look up apophus rise and fall of a system lord personally I was sorry ra got nuked there could have been a lot of story with it I say that because gou'ald have no gender I've always been interested in mythology so I was sanded when the show didn't show both sides of the coin kind of like avatar the navi got more screen time than the NRD
Heru-Ur: "Would it help if I said I was sorry? You always were my favorite uncle, pushing me to be a better conqueror... but kudos Uncle Apophis, kudos kree."
I'm mostly disappointed in Heru'ur compared to other System Lords. He's said to be so powerful and feared by many but one time he got a knife stuck through his hand by O'Neill and this time he got killed without fighting back. Sokar was a dud too but at least he managed to scared off the Tauri to return him the dead body of Apophis.
I think he's a better villain that he didn't fight back here. He knew he was done. He wasn't happy about it, but he accepted it. If he'd tried to attack the fleet despite knowing he'd get obliterated... that would've been predictable and annoyingly desperate. This way he had a few moments of dignity.
That's not really my point. My gripe with the handling of his character is that he never came off as a true feared evil boss. He certainly looked the part but every time he showed up he only got his ass kicked in the end. Every single time.
true i always saw him as a bad ass but he always got shafted
If Heru'ur had fired the minefield would have destroyed his ship, instead of Apophis's ship, the only reason Apophis got away with firing, was his fleet of ships their to cover his exit.
he had the face of someone who knew he is going to die, but at the very least he died with his snakehead held high
So nice when an episode introduces an ability for the bad guys that is mysteriously dropped without explanation despite it being a game changer. Cloaking a big ship never happens again until Atlantis or S10 even though S4 established Apophis / Sokar pulling it off right here in S4.
The Goa'uld don't share technology with each other so the technology and/or techniques required to construct a cloaking device capable of hiding a Ha'tak was lost after the death of Apophis in 2001, as no further Ha'taks were ever equipped with a cloak.
It's entirely possible that fleet was an experiment. Why not use a disposable "subordinate" to test a system that may not work?
Translation? "fuck you Heru'ur how dare you trick Apophis!"
If "Kre" is the translation of "fuck" well... Jaffa Kre get's a whole new meaning...
Kre, I think, is one of the words with multiple meanings, so, who knows?
To be fair, "fuck" also has multiple meanings.
It was established not all that far into the series that "kree" has a lot of meanings.
jaffa kreeeeeeeeeeeeee
Jack's thinking maybe Star Trek wasn't the best torture device they had...
Damn Romulans.
I love Apophis' ship design
Apophis kills his own nephew
+Marik You know what he did to his brother, right?
Do you both know that they are goauld and they dont really give a shit about each other?
As Teal'c said "All Goa'uld desire power and will betray their own Brother to achieve it"
@@marcoboscarol2420 But he seemed to care about his wife.
@@rockman6821
Seems(?) and is are two different things
it was a shame they decided to kill off Apophis half way into the shows run. other Goa'uld were great too but Apophis was there from the beginning writing him out was like losing a main character. they could still have done things with him. just imagine having him during the Anubis story line. now SG-1 suffers a bit from the 'big bad guy' followed by a 'bigger bag guy' followed by the 'BIGGEST BAD GUY' cliche.
On the other hand, you do want to avoid the villain that keeps dying but always coming back though.
Stargate had an issue with the “bigger bad guy” cliche. Defeat Apophis and Anubis takes his place, defeat him and the Ori show up.
It would however have been interesting to see how Apophis would have dealt with the competition instead of being replaced by them.
Maybe he would side with SG-1 against a common enemy, maybe he would be forced to serve Anubis. Maybe he has a redemption arc.
I feel they could have done more with him. (Especially his connection to Teal’c and his people) but, they likely didn’t realize they would get 5 more seasons, would they have killed him off if they knew?
@@henkman00 I don't think it's a loss to not see how Apophis side up against a common enemy because we already see Ba'al do that. Redemption arcs don't fit the Gou'uld at all because if it was possible there wouldn't be a need for the Tokra. Apophis holds the unique position of being a standard for all Gou'uld that we have never met. If you start having things like redemption arcs it kind of kills the whole thing. He remains comically egomaniacal almost the entire way through and gets killed off. There's no other Gou'uld in the series like that. I think Heru'ur got the short end of the stick if anything. Having a knife personally thrown through his hand must have opened the way for interesting future interactions.
Kree means "attention", "listen up", "Yoohoo", "OI!" etc
Kree jaffa
Damn this show was awesome
Every time I stub my toe, my innee monologue shouts 'Heh-Roor attacks'
0:59 It was at this moment that Heru’ur knew... he f***ed up
it is a stolen ship from sokar's technology
Losing 15 big ships just like that.
No wonder Apophis eventually lost
He sacrificed 15 ships like that because he could replace them with ease. Firstly absorbing Heru’ur fleet, and Delmak. Delmak is a high industrial world. Capable of pumping out war equipment with ease,
They also look to be the old style hatak. So probably the worst of his fleet. How he had them cloaked I don't know. Can't remember any other hataks do that in another episode
Funny, considering he previously lost his System Lord status just by having two hataks blown out of the sky
@@daveyb454 I think that's a misnomer. The difference in Ha'tak design is down to graphics limitations of the time. The only thing that separates the Anubis Ha'tak from these Ha'tak are augmented shields and weapons (and maybe cloaking devices).
@@Elydir Those two ships were carrying most of his best warriors at the time. We never see the ships here blowing up there taking the mines impacts on their shields best case he might have only had a crew of 4 piloting each of the ships.
That and by right of conquest he just got all Heru'ur territory and resources. The Tok'ra set up this plan to get the two of them to fight and weaken each other since Heru'ur had the next biggest fleet out of the system lords.
Apophis was affraid of Heru'ur, the son of ra just as he was affraid of ra that is why he brought his whole fleet
Two things:
1) "What is this" is something a "god" should never have to ask.
2) What are those metal plates on Apophis' face? He wore a shard of metal as a mask to cover disfigurement when he was Sokar's prisoner but the sarcophagus should have healed that after he took over.
Rooster Montgomery But I have never seen him in a sarchophagus at the end of "The Devil you know"; when he leaves Ne'tu we don't see him heavily disfigured, but there are no news that he used a sarchophagus after then; this probably is the motivation because he didn't completely healed from the injures and he has those two plates.
See you soon.
Guido.
Well good for you there is an episode where the people questioned a Goa'uld after asking such a thing.
Rooster Montgomery metal plates where probably for intimidation
Hey I'm answering late so I don't think you'll see this. However, from memory, I think that Apophis face was injured somewhere in a previous episode,but I'm not 100% sure (I must admit, I didn't watch Stargate for a while).
#FromAnOldFan
Apophis' face was disfigured when he was Sokar's prisoner. However I would imagine the plates are for intimidation and a mark of pride like "I journeyed through the underworld, killed the god of death and took his power!" They're battle scars.
You are right the sarcophagus would heal the scars, hence why he has the metal plates to keep them in tact.
And yes he must have used a sarcophagus as his host is nearly two thousand years old, we see in a previous episode that if he goes for a long time without a sarcophagus his host will age rapidly.
Good video!
One thing that has always gotten to me is why would Sokar's soldiers be so loyal to Apophis after the death of their boss, Sokar? Unless Apophis tricked them into believing that he killed Sokar and the Jaffa have a rule that they follow a system lord that manages to kill their overlord. I kind of wish the show had elaborated more on this after the death of Sokar.
they did , when teal'c was captured by heru'ur did you see that part
Probably because with the death of their overlord, they didn't have anyone else to fill Sokar's shoes and since Apophis was already a very polarizing figure in the Gould Empire. They decided to make him the new 'Sokar'. Otherwise Sokar's considerable forces would have been headless and be at the mercy of other system lords out there looking to pick them apart. I mean just look at what happened when Ra died.
barbiquearea Apophis was a conqueror among his kind, so it stands to reason they sided with him. He was only ever toppled by SG-1. In the absence of Sokar, Apophis was their best choice.
kytim89
My thoughts exactly. And besides he did at least took responsibility for 'killing' Sokar which according to Gould laws, allows him to inherit all of Sokar's assets.
in turn this allowed anubis and baal to rise to power
doug and peter really nice guys in real life,r.i.p carmen
Is that headset with the eye HUD a prop from Star Trek Deep Space 9?
Clearly they're a member of the Dominion
Goa'uld
Always believe in your soul
You've got the power to know
You're indestructible
Always believe in, because you are
Goa'uld
+Rob Fraser bahahaha... your comment was... gold... GOA'ULD!
Laughed at this much harder than i should have
and that was the moment he realised he fucked up.
If SG1 didn't interfere and/or Teal'c had found a way to secretly escape, HERU'RU would be considered a more honorable system lord than Apophis in this particular scenario.
Say what you will about Apophis, he was literally the only system lord (before anubis) who was making new technological advances for his fleet, like shown here, able to cloak his fleet.
Seeing as we never see a cloaked Ha’tak again I believe the cloak was made by Sokar and Apophis (having taken over his forces) used all the ships with them here but didn’t know how to make more
Apophis was a good villain during the begining, BUT....i dont think he can outmatch Anubis, since Anubis had the Kull Warriors, his fleet, and ancient technology
just when i was hoping that Heru'ur would win. he would have been a great main villain.
1:07 Heru'Ur is toasted now!
When does he not get owned? His first appearance had him running with his tail between his fins when Thor showed up, later he gets a knife to the hand thanks to Jack, and now this! Heru'ur is useless!!! lol
Say it with me: GOOOOOOOO APOPHIS!!!!!!!!!
Heru'ur owns by the tollan, owns by the asgard, owns by o'neill and owns by apophis .
dude i wish they woulda kept Heru'ur around... he was the most bad ass lookin out of all the goa'uld
according to daniel it means many things, including contracdicting stuff like come here, go away, do as i say etc
No the guys who escaped in the death glider were Teal'c(the shol'va) and another Jaffa. Teal'c was supposed to be sent to Apophis's mothership but a Jaffa called Rak'nor saved him and sent the goa'uld torture master Terok instead(the guy lying dead at Apophis's feet).
Yes. By firing on Heru'ur Ship the mines directed themselves on Apophis's Mothership and had Apophis not brought his fleet to take on the mines, the mothership would have been destroyed.
I don't think that's the case, it's not implied the mines can penetrate goa'uld shields. Also, more than likely Apophis and Heru'ur didn't have their shields up, as a sign of non-agression meeting. If you want to meet and negotiate, why would you come with your shields up? It will be a red flag for whoever you came to meet with.
I can't believe five of Heru'ur's Jaffa actually survived that.
Apophis was powerful before his capture by Sokar. After Ra's death he was the most powerful of the system Lords. It just takes time to assemble an invasion fleet. The hard part being troops not hataks
i think he said "attention heru'ur. You will feel the wrath of apophis"
That fleet was totally pointless, Apophis's flagshhip could easely destroy a single Ha'tak, but still gotta love Apophis, he showed his fleet and gave the middle finger to Heru'ur before killing him.
Oh shit, guess I'm watching SG-1 again.
hmmm you just gave me an idea for "HERU'UR GETS PWNED!"... :P
Funny how a cloaked mothership never appears again in this show.
It's possible only Sokar knew now to make them and he took that knowledge with to the grave. Apophis probably had only a few dozen ships (prototypes) with a cloaking device because Sokar hadn't finished experimenting with the technology yet.
@@Not-Ap I suppose it's also possible those prototypes are the ones that got a exploding star to the face.
If it wasn't a TV show, he just would've jumped into hyperspace.
Dany: The common people pray for my return.
Jorah: The jaffa pray for food, health, and a summer that never ends. They don’t care about the game the system lords play.
i still think heru'er got more owned when o'neill threw the knife through his hand that was awesome.
Heru'ur looks like he's about to cry. :D
Kree Apophis :)
@awesomeSimon
I Haven't been been able to get a translation on that one.
Do you know what it means?
No Heru'ur dies, but Teal'c escapes the destuction of the Ha'tak
WTF would Heru’er’s plan here be exactly? Send Apophis the wrong person and attack him with ONE mine!? How the hell would that take him out!?
It matters not what his scheme was! Only that he has one!
Not even screaming...
Heru'ur was dying like a Warrior!
Actually O'Neill has appear already, and i'm pretty sure i read somewhere that Amanda tapping will appear in a episode as well.
I had no idea Jason Statham were possesed by an Goa'uld all along.
Wait that was Jason... seriously?
That was not Jason Statham that played as Heru'ur. It was Douglas Arthurs.
You seem to have missed the whole point. They were in the middle of minefield, that are programmed to intercept ships when they fire. The reason he brought the whole fleet so they could surround his ship, protecting it, while he made a getaway.
This is from the episode Serpent's Venom
Apophis was a powerfull System Lord, the problem is when Earth destroyed two Ships from Apophis the other system lords look at this as a weakness and started to attack Apophis, then Sokkar comes to play, and start to attack Apophis too.
As in Egyptian mythology, Apophis and Ra were both enemies and brothers, so it's natural that he is enemies with he's brother's son. plus they are goauld, they are sneaky!
That jaffa of Apophis messed things up for Heru ur. He could have said an explosion happened but he screamed Heru ur attacks sort of sealed the deal while everyone else was confused
That was the Tok'ra spy who planted the beacon that drew the mine to Apophis' ship.
Guess Apophis didn't fear him
Apophis is really pissed off!
@bestcod4plaer Off the top of my head, Season 2's"Secrets"
Heru'ur must be thinking: Oh Shit.
Did he really need all those ships!
Jakob: "The Goa'uld have never been able to cloak an entire Mothership before. And now Apophis will easily be able to take over the galaxy."
And then we never saw a single cloaked mothership EVER again! Hell, even Anubis didn't give them cloaking abilities!
Kegalo, Tau'ri!
Kal kek m'al shol'va
Ke`i!
Heru'ur at 0:58...
"ooooohhhh shiiiiit"
and revived in the third season...
He shouldn't have died yet! He was damn epic!
When Anubis came back he became the most powerful Goa´uld since he was half-assended and possesed some knowledge of the Acients and his Kullwarriors made him even stronger
Anubis was when the series got a bit excessive with the power escalation, because the dude had the weakest motives of everyone thanks to not having a normal body and was too capable to the point of making some of his loses unbelievable at times.
@@InfernosReaper The writers made a mistake of making him in destructible
1:14
"Oh shit I am screwed"
I akreed with the earlier statement that herour should have brought his strongest ally, heroin to the battle.
I only have SGU season 1 here in my apartment.
The official name is simply "Stargate", though it's often referred to as Stargate the movie to differentiate it from the TV series. It's not an SG1 movie, it came out in 1994 and Stargate SG-1 is a spin-off that came out in 1997. SG-1 is a sequel to the movie but due to having different writers they're a few continuity discrepancies between the movie and SG-1, eg Abydos is in our galaxy in SG1, in a different one in the movie. The movie also had different people playing Jack and Daniel
Not to mention that the movie Stargate didn't light up, and the top chevron was different. There were also problems reconciling Catherine Langford's age in the series (21 in 1945) with the young girl who played her in the movie's 1928 unearthing scene (who looked about 9 or 10 years old). Even the missile silo in the movie wasn't the Cheyenne Mountain Complex, even though O'Neill's dialogue in "Children of the Gods" implied that it was. There are more examples, but I'll leave it here.
Mans didn't even put shields up. RIP
Jacob is always willing to leave teal'c behind
Her`ur last thoughts* shit im screwed why did i even try*boom*
Kree, the Oida of the Goa'uld.
Something like "Oi, Heru'ur, how dare you betray Apophis"???
Wow you are a real nerd man. Congrats. I watch it in the morning[ the TV series] and I think the chick soldier/scientist is hot. I liked the episode when Jack was in a time loop [groundhog day thing] and he gave her a long facial hug tongue kiss...so good on you Jack.
@DeltaSquad451 Who's your favorite character on SG-1,SGA and SGU?
13 years ago..
Indeed
@neomysterio yes
Yes the black dude in the red suit, sitting in the sculpted chair with the pretty girls around and saying ''what is this?''and ''Kree Heru'ur, shel pak arak Apophis'' is Apophis.He is the serpent god as wellas the ruler of the night and darkness.