Towing with my Ford Lightning EV Pickup was a TOTAL DISASTER!

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Комментарии • 13 тыс.

  • @richardcutts196
    @richardcutts196 2 года назад +6732

    I'm sure everyone (except Ford) appreciates you demonstrating Lightning's towing capacity.

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 2 года назад +155

      Towing capacity is huge, problem is range.

    • @vincentenk4449
      @vincentenk4449 2 года назад +164

      You mean INCAPACITY?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @KrustyKlown
      @KrustyKlown 2 года назад +68

      EVs suck at Towing ... only an idiot would do it.

    • @foxtrot685
      @foxtrot685 2 года назад +61

      Even ford has said its not the best thing out there for towing so I'm sure they don't mind

    • @KCJbomberFTW
      @KCJbomberFTW 2 года назад +14

      Just buy a model X

  • @franciscodanconia4324
    @franciscodanconia4324 2 года назад +491

    Getting 25% of total range while towing has been par for the course with every test I’ve seen of the Lightning.

    • @mysock351C
      @mysock351C 2 года назад +45

      With IC engines, the efficiency is so poor that you don't even really notice too great a difference since so little of it actually makes it to the wheels. With these electric vehicles its betting the entire farm it will be able to use things like good electrical efficiency and regenerative braking in stop and go traffic to help it save face. Out on the highway with a big box dragging along behind it? Nope. It'll suck juice faster than someone's AC out in the middle of the desert.

    • @icosthop9998
      @icosthop9998 2 года назад +1

      @@mysock351C LoL
      True

    • @eddiewillers1
      @eddiewillers1 2 года назад +18

      Wonder what would have happened if Hoovie had limited his speed to 55mph? Makes me think there's going to be 70s-style national 'double-nickel' speed limits coming soon.

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW 2 года назад

      @mysock351C Hurtful, because it empowers scum trolls, but still true(unlike the OP).

    • @Jcewazhere
      @Jcewazhere 2 года назад +7

      Check out Transport Evolved's video on it. They went from Oregon to Colorado and back while towing.
      The guy in this video glossed right over how he was getting better than 30mpge while towing in the rain going over 70mph.
      Empty, like how he said most people will be driving it most of the time, he was getting 70mpge or better.

  • @edwarddickson7731
    @edwarddickson7731 2 года назад +11

    Try finding a charging station that you can pull into with a trailer.

  • @michaelkhoo5846
    @michaelkhoo5846 Год назад +4

    This is very interesting, and also obvious with hindsight. You could have 4 passengers in the cab and some tools in the back and that's 1500 lbs easily.

    • @manuelg8050
      @manuelg8050 Год назад

      The problem is not the weight, it's the air resistent.

  • @rocketboostjump
    @rocketboostjump Год назад +6

    Installing solar panels on top of the truck cabin should do the trick😄

  • @vegasx07
    @vegasx07 2 года назад +7

    Called this as being an issue when people were saying they would replace whole fleet of construction, labor, and other work trucks that require heavy loads or towing. So many people said “electric trucks would handle towing easier because all the torque the electric engines have”

    • @AutisticMorty
      @AutisticMorty Год назад +4

      Maybe if the entire truck bed is filled with lithium batteries lol. The only downside is that each contractor will need to pay $300,000 to afford a truck with sufficient lithium battery, so now your plumber will need to charge $500/hr.

    • @mele2904
      @mele2904 Год назад +3

      @@AutisticMorty There are also weight restrictions even for non commercial trucks. Adding more battery reduces payload and adds more weight making it less efficient than a small light weight EV.

    • @CarlWiles
      @CarlWiles Год назад

      70 miles is still actually enough for most fleet vehicle usage. 70 miles is a worst case scenario under worst loads.
      On-site construction vehicles, parts delivery trucks for auto-parts shops/stores, etc. Thats what people are talking about. The vast majority of fleet vehicles in service today are not towing multi-thousand pound loads all day.

    • @AutisticMorty
      @AutisticMorty Год назад

      @@CarlWiles that's 70 miles roundtrip, so only 35 miles in each direction. That's one trip through a metro area end to end. If you have multiple stops that day, you already need to recharge.

    • @g600f700
      @g600f700 Год назад

      not on this truck and this generation of battery + motor for now. It will improve over time until it gets to a range of 500mile, then it will be usable for most buyers. Remember first generation Nissan Leaf with 80 miles range? I didn't even look until those EVs that can go around 300miles range. The torque is still good on EV vs gas. Range not yet. Don't mix things up.

  • @OhmmuEnergy
    @OhmmuEnergy Год назад +1

    Why did you do this on the small battery pack? One would assume anyone who is actually gonna tow with one of these would insist on the larger battery pack for obvious reasons. It looks like you used about 65% of the 98kWh battery (~64kWh) total for this trip, which would be around 48% w/ the larger battery. If you got the right battery and then also elected to just go ahead and slow down to 60-65mph while towing you would probably be able to have towed both trips (obviously also need a wider trailer tho). Anyways, this is definitely the downside to EV trucks, towing range is abysmal, however it is better if you buy the right battery and drive a little slower...

  • @The-Lie-We-Live
    @The-Lie-We-Live Год назад +1

    Good to know. I’ll keep my 7.3, until they pry it from my dead corpse.

  • @Thistlebrew
    @Thistlebrew 2 года назад +16

    Could not care less about the lightning, but super jelly about the nice looking model A 😀

  • @jwandhistools
    @jwandhistools 2 года назад +6

    Just tow the EV with the Model A.

  • @Givelasagna
    @Givelasagna Год назад +779

    You should do this in winter using the heater. Watch the range get even worse

    • @alpacker2741
      @alpacker2741 Год назад +42

      Or in summer with the air on.

    • @UnluckyUmbrella
      @UnluckyUmbrella Год назад +33

      @@alpacker2741 AC isn't as much of an issue as the heat. EV owner here.

    • @bobmorane2082
      @bobmorane2082 Год назад +19

      There was a guy on tv he got the 50k mustang says it starts but car can’t heat at -15c so the windows stays frozen

    • @tehScribbles
      @tehScribbles Год назад +10

      @@bobmorane2082 What kind of desolate frozen hellscape is -15c?

    • @bobmorane2082
      @bobmorane2082 Год назад +37

      @@tehScribbles a normal Québec morning

  • @theparkerfamily7153
    @theparkerfamily7153 Год назад +63

    I like how you cant reliably predict your distance, and its subject to change with the weather and minimal weight introduced. We all know how good people are at planning, cant foresee any issues with this.

  • @Dr_Reason
    @Dr_Reason 2 года назад +2421

    The interior is really quiet, especially when you are parked at a charging station.

  • @msmith_364
    @msmith_364 2 года назад +878

    Probably would a been a better test of using the model a to tow the lighting

    • @BobWiersema
      @BobWiersema 2 года назад +52

      That's the test I want to see. It may be slower but I bet the range is better. And you don't have to wait for it to charge, just dump fuel in it.

    • @MikoOhneHose
      @MikoOhneHose 2 года назад +7

      Can you purchase a dictionary and then start writing comments?

    • @michaelsimmons261
      @michaelsimmons261 2 года назад +13

      @@MikoOhneHose you have to know how to spell the word to look it up....is this poor grammar?

    • @MrCheesywaffles
      @MrCheesywaffles 2 года назад +14

      Um, it might pull it... but would it have the braking power to stop it in less than a mile?

    • @cruzin1383
      @cruzin1383 2 года назад +4

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @sdn40
    @sdn40 2 года назад +2771

    Imagine if you were in cold weather.

    • @gingerman5123
      @gingerman5123 2 года назад +41

      It shouldn't affect it too much. The heater is heat pump not restrictive so it uses no more power than the heat pump does while operating in cooling mode.

    • @michaeljezierski3154
      @michaeljezierski3154 2 года назад +103

      Or driving on long grades

    • @Random-bm7ho
      @Random-bm7ho 2 года назад +133

      The batteries will shut down if they go below 32F, so in the winter they will always have to be heated.

    • @hadtopicausername
      @hadtopicausername 2 года назад +19

      Not really. The batteries generate heat just from having power pulled out of them. Heating the battery is mostly a thing that's necessary to do right before (fast) charging, to speed up that process.

    • @ozarkliving7263
      @ozarkliving7263 2 года назад +81

      Exactly, folks who failed any science class they ever took making decisions on electrical engineering for the entire country

  • @ginginthing
    @ginginthing Год назад +149

    Could see this coming before these things hit the road. A lot of hype behind most of these EVs.

    • @amramjose
      @amramjose Год назад +7

      THe Li-ion batter technology is terrible. There has to be something better in the works!

    • @ginginthing
      @ginginthing Год назад +1

      @@amramjose Elon and others are working on a better battery all the time because they can see the downside of these Li-Ions, but it might be a while before a better one is invented. One that is safer for the environment and will charge more quickly as not to overwhelm power companies as much as these Li-Ions. Plus some big auto companies like Toyota are still investigating other cleaner forms of energy like hydrogen.

    • @may_god_save_us
      @may_god_save_us Год назад +3

      @@amramjoseyeah it’s called hydrogen

    • @hastabyebye
      @hastabyebye Год назад

      @@ginginthing Sodium ion (salt) according to Elon yesterday.

  • @RolandtheThompsonGunner
    @RolandtheThompsonGunner 2 года назад +575

    I'd like to see this test in the hills and mountains.

    • @dabigkahunacatfish2992
      @dabigkahunacatfish2992 2 года назад

      l'm sure you would be looking at 1/4th of what he got here on flat ground. 50 feet or 15 minutes, which ever comes first. Don't get me wrong, l love Fords but not this POS!

    • @Mike14G
      @Mike14G 2 года назад +54

      Better be a small hill and mountain. You’ll never make it back.

    • @justinhelsley5241
      @justinhelsley5241 2 года назад +26

      I was thinking the same thing! That was on the highway and it did that bad, I couldn't imagine it going up a mountain.

    • @rackets001
      @rackets001 2 года назад +32

      As long as there are several charging stations along the way, and you have a few days to kill... 😆

    • @TheSulross
      @TheSulross 2 года назад +12

      would need to be sure to have a towing service lined up to come get both the EV pickup and its trailer

  • @eh139
    @eh139 2 года назад +781

    Maybe if the windshield wipers were turned off, the truck might get a few more miles 😂

    • @amarreder6241
      @amarreder6241 2 года назад +37

      And no radio

    • @JAMessinaJr
      @JAMessinaJr 2 года назад +39

      @@amarreder6241 "Does it have bluetooth?" "Yeah, but don't use it unless you are planning to not drive anywhere."

    • @7633J
      @7633J 2 года назад +4

      😆 winner

    • @RuralTowner
      @RuralTowner 2 года назад +1

      Not driving 70+ mph (unless posted otherwise) as well

    • @arekpetrosian4965
      @arekpetrosian4965 2 года назад +16

      @@RuralTowner That is the legal speed limit in a lot of areas. If the mileage is going to be so incredibly bad just because of that, Ford needs to redesign the Lightning.

  • @miboatwake2
    @miboatwake2 2 года назад +112

    Now imagine the temperature is 15 degrees out, your range just went down another half

    • @justintime41776
      @justintime41776 2 года назад

      In a perfect world we all have 100 solar panels, a battery system to store energy and electric vehicles that go 1000 miles on a charge. Common sense tells us only the rich can afford it but they're busy flying around in their private jets. It's a scam.

    • @TheGreyGhost_of43rd
      @TheGreyGhost_of43rd 2 года назад +1

      💯💯💯

    • @Hj61S827
      @Hj61S827 2 года назад

      Toss In a Colorado 10,000ft mountain pass and she’s toast

    • @miboatwake2
      @miboatwake2 2 года назад

      @@JohnDoe-lz5un and when your stuck somewhere, you'll need a portable generator powered by, you guessed it, gasoline, to charge the battery

    • @DG-sf9ei
      @DG-sf9ei 2 года назад +3

      Better yet, what about no range at all, stuck somewhere to freeze to death with no cell service.

  • @anthonyray773
    @anthonyray773 Год назад +91

    TFL trucks did a comparison with the lighting with extended battery and a gas motor. Both towing a 7200lbs trailer. The lighting needed to be recharged at 70 miles.

    • @LasVegas68
      @LasVegas68 Год назад +6

      Yeah saw that too! 70 miles. Lol

    • @TheShowtime85
      @TheShowtime85 Год назад +1

      🤦‍♂️

    • @sportsref
      @sportsref 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@LasVegas68 And then there's the issue of finding a charging station that you can get the truck and trailer into! LOL

  • @everettwalker9141
    @everettwalker9141 2 года назад +218

    Must have been those windshield wipers that used up the energy. Lol

    • @HubertofLiege
      @HubertofLiege 2 года назад +13

      Cops in UK got rid of their EV patrol cars because the lights and sirens ate the batteries up.

    • @Josh-179
      @Josh-179 2 года назад

      Accessories don't use the drive battery. EVs have the same 12V battery ICE cars have that power accessories. It's a tiny amount of power.

    • @deiangonzales8406
      @deiangonzales8406 2 года назад +4

      8k screen uses 60% of battery, and gives you covid...

    • @guybonfiglio5899
      @guybonfiglio5899 2 года назад +1

      It’s going to take us a while to learn EV’s, we have had combustion cars for over a century.
      He had a jacket on, was he running the heater inside the car, that reduces range.
      In the cold the battery packs need to be warmed to work properly that also reduces range.
      I don’t know if any of this contributed to result but the computer should have been able calculate the range.

    • @salvatoresaccoccio2379
      @salvatoresaccoccio2379 2 года назад

      Along with the tires spinning!

  • @TenFalconsMusic
    @TenFalconsMusic 2 года назад +2141

    Note to self: "Don't buy an EV truck to do truck things."
    Thanks Tyler!

    • @pstoneking3418
      @pstoneking3418 2 года назад +14

      My platinum will do everything that my 2014 F150 could do and much much cheaper without requiring any maintenance.

    • @NorthernChev
      @NorthernChev 2 года назад +21

      Don’t buy THAT truck. The rest of the EV market has nothing to do with THAT trucks super poor performance in this test.

    • @samuelrudy1776
      @samuelrudy1776 2 года назад +124

      @@NorthernChev no all electric vehicles are pretty bad at towing

    • @Jim-MT
      @Jim-MT 2 года назад +89

      @@pstoneking3418 ~ No maintenance? Are you joking or just don't know anything about vehicles?

    • @chucksherron
      @chucksherron 2 года назад +46

      @@NorthernChev watch TFL test towing with a Tesla. Same sort of results.

  • @aguyandhiscomputer
    @aguyandhiscomputer 2 года назад +191

    Add an 10 ft tall x 8 ft wide travel trailer behind it and all this falls apart even faster.

    • @jg8263
      @jg8263 2 года назад +6

      This even applies to other Ford products (and towing performance in general), for example the Ranger supposedly tows up to 7500lbs, but the fine print on the Ford website says max frontal sq ft of a trailer for the Ranger is 55 sq ft. So 7500lbs of lumber on a low trailer is OK, but only pop up and teardrop campers apparently. As you pointed out, even a small travel trailer of

    • @JohnDoe-qz1ql
      @JohnDoe-qz1ql 2 года назад

      pffff...

    • @americancitizen4259
      @americancitizen4259 2 года назад +2

      TFL truck did a test on the Ike gauntlet.... It was ugly!

    • @jg8263
      @jg8263 2 года назад

      @@JohnDoe-qz1ql Seriously, that is what Ford lists as max frontal area on the current Ranger, probably so they can turn down warranty work. I am sure the Ranger is capable of exceeding that value, but nonetheless, Ford says 55sq ft is the max. Here is a capture I just made from Ford's own towing guide to the Ranger: ruclips.net/video/m3PHxcg_y8c/видео.html

    • @JohnDoe-qz1ql
      @JohnDoe-qz1ql 2 года назад

      @@jg8263 What the hell are you on about? I never denied anything.

  • @jonathondoe7078
    @jonathondoe7078 Год назад +64

    This is hilarious! I suppose it's time to add some fine print to the truck's ads: "Your towing mileage will be absolutely abysmal, so plan on using a friend's truck with a regular internal combustion engine."

  • @GeografoNerd
    @GeografoNerd 2 года назад +895

    The first problem of buying an electric pickup to tow heavy loads is the fact you bought an EV to tow heavy loads.
    EDIT: Oh, God, what have I done?

    • @ozarkliving7263
      @ozarkliving7263 2 года назад +109

      But Greta Thornburg said it would all work just fine. She’s an electrical engineer, right? She fully understands electric generation, transmission, and distribution, right? Electric vehicles are for golf courses. Fossil fuels are organic and wonderful.

    • @CitarNosis317
      @CitarNosis317 2 года назад +23

      But why did they make an EV pickup then? People with small PP could compensate or..?

    • @blckbldng
      @blckbldng 2 года назад +7

      Great Norm style joke.

    • @bobdolespen
      @bobdolespen 2 года назад +34

      @@CitarNosis317 It is the ultimate parking lot princess without all the insane fuel costs, sadly, that is a larger market than you might believe. It can do light towing relatively fine, if you just wanna tow a jet ski or dirt bike to somewhere local you're still OK but yea....road trip towing...fuck no.

    • @drewfeld836
      @drewfeld836 2 года назад +32

      @@ozarkliving7263 The ironic thing is that EV's use electricity generated by fossil fuels.

  • @Pierson116
    @Pierson116 2 года назад +400

    I would have laughed my ass off if you had hooked the trailer up to the Raptor and towed the Lightning back.

    • @zenithperigee7442
      @zenithperigee7442 2 года назад +39

      @Pierson, it would've been the best if he towed the EV back with the Model A... 🤣

    • @jessetippett8886
      @jessetippett8886 2 года назад +15

      Put the model T in the back of the lightning load them on the trailer and use the Raptor to pull it all back.

    • @jessetippett8886
      @jessetippett8886 2 года назад +4

      @@zenithperigee7442 with the smaller battery the lightning weighs somewhere around three tons I believe is what I read somewhere. I don't know if the model T would pull it but that would be cool if it could.

    • @BAYAREAMX
      @BAYAREAMX 2 года назад +2

      That’s funny. Although that’s more than the raptor is rated to tow.

    • @jamiejames6150
      @jamiejames6150 2 года назад

      Perfect idea 💡 Einstein!

  • @davec.3198
    @davec.3198 2 года назад +456

    TFL truck tested the larger battery F150 and they made it

    • @OmegaTou
      @OmegaTou 2 года назад +102

      At least with a 7-gallon fuel tank you could fill it up in less than a minute. 🤣

    • @TheWabbit
      @TheWabbit 2 года назад +19

      My 96 F250 4wd w/7.5 gas and 5 speed got 12 mpg in 2wd and 8mpg 4wd it didn't matter if I was towing or not, those numbers were constant. Weirdest thing ever! Even towing 10,000 lbs which I only did once it got 12 but I could tell I had a load on the back. It had 2 tanks for a total of 34 gallons I believe.
      Less than 100 miles towing is insane!

    • @ryane6719
      @ryane6719 2 года назад +3

      They were towing 6500lbs

    • @davec.3198
      @davec.3198 2 года назад +11

      @@ryane6719 Which isn't crazy. It's a boat, tractor, firewood, ect.

    • @kyleh3615
      @kyleh3615 2 года назад +16

      @@ryane6719 if you're towing anything really worth your time. It will be atleast 6500 but I'd expect a brand new truck to do twice that and maybe loose 30% of available range
      The EV market is just way out of its league

  • @Ken19700
    @Ken19700 2 года назад +145

    Well, when the battery dies you can tow it home with the Model A

  • @minu1764
    @minu1764 2 года назад +968

    You should have towed the lightning with the model A. You'd have a better milage.

    • @Kni0002
      @Kni0002 2 года назад +31

      Tow the lightning with the raptor

    • @Leo137156
      @Leo137156 2 года назад +20

      That's just soooo funny. You nailed it!

    • @GH95660
      @GH95660 2 года назад +6

      😂😂

    • @atomictyler
      @atomictyler 2 года назад +3

      you'd go further, possibly, but you most definitely are FAR more efficient with the lightning. Before towing far distance with batteries is possible it's going to take some new battery tech to come along. They're great for going short distances and tow better than ICE vehicles, but can't go far.

    • @markhayhurst3017
      @markhayhurst3017 2 года назад +24

      The Model A is better looking

  • @reno145
    @reno145 2 года назад +401

    Given a choice, I will take the ‘30 A pickup without a second thought.

    • @jordanplays-transitandgame1690
      @jordanplays-transitandgame1690 2 года назад +6

      Same! I would sell it then buy a Model S Plaid or another electric car!

    • @michaeldeloatch7461
      @michaeldeloatch7461 2 года назад +14

      I thought the pickup he left behind would end up towing the EV and the model A at the same time to save the day.

    • @ronnielester2933
      @ronnielester2933 2 года назад +6

      Absolutely!!!!

    • @kw2519
      @kw2519 2 года назад +2

      @@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 🤮
      For the Tesla.
      Also, I can’t imagine that model a is worth more than $60k in perfect condition.

    • @cmontes7961
      @cmontes7961 2 года назад

      That's good because you won't be able to but a new gas car very soon.

  • @allthingsharbor
    @allthingsharbor Год назад +68

    Once we are all forced into EVs, there will be no leaving home for any meaningful distance. What a great control method !

    • @jayasmrmore3687
      @jayasmrmore3687 Год назад +3

      I’m sure the issue will be fixed by then. Chargers are getting faster too.

    • @caseymcclinton9548
      @caseymcclinton9548 Год назад

      I keep reading EV's are going to be an ecological disaster!

    • @robertwhitfield6591
      @robertwhitfield6591 Год назад +11

      The EPA and Democratic Party can try all they want. There’s just not a high enough demand for EVs

    • @davecasey4341
      @davecasey4341 Год назад

      Especially when you realize they can shut down your ability to charge your vehicle remotely. Say something bad (but true) about Joe? "We're sorry, your ESG score has dropped to a level that negates your ability to use a simple function as the electrical grid. Have a nice day." Don't think it will happen? Some people think the book, 1984 is just a fiction. The Dims think it's a manual for the future.

    • @paulapostolos7446
      @paulapostolos7446 9 месяцев назад +3

      Just like us semi truck drivers were forced into semi's that run on DEF for cleaner diesel Emissions. That caused us to deal with higher operating costs because those system are high maintenance.

  • @vert3432
    @vert3432 2 года назад +667

    Basically, the Lightning is good for towing something off your driveway and into the road before it runs out of power

    • @DG-sf9ei
      @DG-sf9ei 2 года назад +15

      Unless you live on a hill, might make it 1/2 way up the next hill.

    • @GhostlyGhille
      @GhostlyGhille 2 года назад +13

      The range is crappy towing on all but he used a high trim low range truck.. Also he didn't put it in tow mode.. so the dte calc was way off. Basically the definition of doing it wrong.

    • @chrisharris529
      @chrisharris529 2 года назад +3

      @@GhostlyGhille Including my comments, drove too fast, especially in the rain, (dangerously so) and did not set correct conditions period. Ultra poor example.

    • @kirkyorg7654
      @kirkyorg7654 2 года назад

      lmao to true lol

    • @davestir5743
      @davestir5743 2 года назад +7

      @@GhostlyGhille Not to mention how much power is being eaten up by wipers, heater, lights during a day like that. Most people forget that your Electric Vehicle comes with AC, but when it is on you eat up the battery to stay cool.

  • @papakett
    @papakett 2 года назад +762

    Should’ve towed both at the same time with the raptor 😂

    • @BCJDM
      @BCJDM 2 года назад +20

      Lightening weighs too much for the Raptor to tow

    • @WhittyPics
      @WhittyPics 2 года назад +2

      You can, just not very far

    • @shmiggz
      @shmiggz 2 года назад

      That will be the next video lol

    • @muskokamike127
      @muskokamike127 2 года назад +16

      @@BCJDM nope...if it weighs around 6200 lbs + trailer 1500 lbs that's under the max towing capacity of 8200 lbs.

    • @jeffsadowski
      @jeffsadowski 2 года назад

      @@BCJDM lower gear go slow.

  • @davidm4160
    @davidm4160 2 года назад +50

    a six pack of craft beer is heaviest thing towed by most people that will buy that truck

    • @BrandonCRFC
      @BrandonCRFC 2 года назад

      Bite me!!!! my IPA's are heavy AF!!!! and theres plenty of room for 1 thicc chic

    • @drowssapma
      @drowssapma 2 года назад +5

      Or maybe some bricks for the next BLM riot.

    • @ottisticotters9073
      @ottisticotters9073 2 года назад +4

      1000s of ballots at 3am 😉

    • @DonVerchi700as
      @DonVerchi700as 2 года назад

      @@drowssapma Qanon WWG1WGA.

    • @davidm4160
      @davidm4160 2 года назад

      @@ottisticotters9073 not next time.

  • @atedejong5620
    @atedejong5620 Год назад +8

    I had to transport an item of 70 pounds in a tesla, with me and a co-passenger. it directly decreased the range with 50% (double the mile/kwh then without it). I actually testes also the trip towards it, and then the trip back! More or less if you drive with 4 persons on board you get half the mileage from your chargeload!

  • @HaveBlue08079
    @HaveBlue08079 2 года назад +958

    Next episode: Welcome to Hoovie's garage where today I'll be doing the unthinkable - towing a Ford Lighting with a Model A!

  • @TheWabbit
    @TheWabbit 2 года назад +432

    Can't wait to see winter and snow performance numbers on these.

    • @ICEMAN99TURBO
      @ICEMAN99TURBO 2 года назад +13

      😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅

    • @Papachristou1177
      @Papachristou1177 2 года назад +5

      Lolz

    • @TheWabbit
      @TheWabbit 2 года назад +21

      @@TheRealRenn but the cold weather affects battery performance along with snow requiring more energy to drive through. I would hope the battery and motors are sealed units so salt and slush doesn't degrade connections and performance.

    • @addikotter4351
      @addikotter4351 2 года назад +1

      yeh, after 25 years of michigan winters like a normal f150. bet they both turn to rust powder just as fast except the gas one will be worth scrap, and not cost extra to dispose of safely.
      fuck ford.

    • @TheWabbit
      @TheWabbit 2 года назад +4

      @@Steven-yl4lg I'm sure, my post was a bit of sarcasm.

  • @truekaliban4674
    @truekaliban4674 2 года назад +123

    I half expected you to switch out and use the Model A as the tow vehicle!

    • @whenever-199iq
      @whenever-199iq 2 года назад +9

      And that 100 yr old truck WILL go anywhere. And start after another 100 years. something is wrong here.

    • @UltraSaltyDomer1776
      @UltraSaltyDomer1776 2 года назад

      Genius comment. That deserves a reeeeee

  • @robbywilson6729
    @robbywilson6729 Год назад +21

    I would be ecstatic to have an EV that checks all the boxes for both work and play, but they are clearly not there yet, and at the prices they are demanding for these trucks its simply not a practical choice for most people who actually use a truck like a truck.

    • @porterwake3898
      @porterwake3898 Год назад +4

      It will never be there. The laws of thermodynamics are set in stone. You can't beat them.

  • @wolfsokaya
    @wolfsokaya 2 года назад +479

    Good thing that the EV pickups only weakness is what made pickups popular,able to work with. :]

    • @kiddhitta
      @kiddhitta 2 года назад +26

      That's not what made pick ups popular. 90% of truck owners don't use them for work.

    • @gregorymattison6007
      @gregorymattison6007 2 года назад +27

      @@kiddhitta I'm sorry but I find that hard to believe.

    • @gravestone9831
      @gravestone9831 2 года назад +16

      @@gregorymattison6007 I mean in reality, you don't see many pickup trucks hauling stuff. It's not like we all doing hard work everyday unless your job actually involves hard work. Just look at the dumb squatted trucks in the south

    • @takh6806
      @takh6806 2 года назад +1

      we have to accept that to protect our planet

    • @tattooed1979
      @tattooed1979 2 года назад +27

      @@takh6806 how do these EVs protect the planet?

  • @DiscoGreen
    @DiscoGreen 2 года назад +317

    Imagine getting stuck in traffic in the snow for 3 hours

    • @craigirwin4771
      @craigirwin4771 2 года назад +23

      And not able to turn on the heat. 😝

    • @brucesmith9144
      @brucesmith9144 2 года назад +19

      Imagine being off road with it and the battery is discharged. Good luck with that.

    • @DiscoGreen
      @DiscoGreen 2 года назад +5

      @@craigirwin4771 I'm Sorry Dave, I'm Afraid I Can't Do That... lmao. Or if you live in Alaska or out in country.

    • @timrankin8737
      @timrankin8737 2 года назад +12

      Just get out the old diesel generator and charge that puppy up.

    • @billpetersen298
      @billpetersen298 2 года назад +23

      Stuck in traffic, is where EV’s shine. You only need, a tiny bit of power.

  • @shaunwilliams2595
    @shaunwilliams2595 2 года назад +512

    Hoovie, can you do other truck things? Like move a pallet of bricks of a load of dirt to see how payload effects range.

    • @damianpeterkelly1234
      @damianpeterkelly1234 2 года назад +37

      that would interest me too, as you loose a lot of the regenerative braking with a braked trailer plus drag

    • @Jose_Pointero
      @Jose_Pointero 2 года назад +1

      Just go watch TFL Truck, they've tested it very extensively.

    • @HRM.H
      @HRM.H 2 года назад +46

      Whistlin Diesel needs to properly torture test one of these

    • @WilliamFisher1
      @WilliamFisher1 2 года назад +19

      He's not a truck channel. Go watch TFLtruck or TFLev

    • @ttww1590
      @ttww1590 2 года назад +13

      TFL has done that, and done it well.

  • @edwardbach5893
    @edwardbach5893 Год назад +11

    I'd like to see the effect of hauling a load of firewood (for example) in the bed as opposed to towing. Can this thing do any truck things at all?

    • @leecowell8165
      @leecowell8165 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yes.. you can impress your neighbors driving an ICE truck by showing off how pretty it is.

  • @OzarksWildman
    @OzarksWildman 2 года назад +231

    He’s probably missing the 7.3 Excursion lol!

    • @ianmacdonald4163
      @ianmacdonald4163 2 года назад +10

      If you haven't yet look up a video of someone flooring one and recording the fuel gauge.

    • @theowl2044
      @theowl2044 2 года назад +33

      @@ianmacdonald4163 still longer range than the EV

    • @bubba99009
      @bubba99009 2 года назад +22

      @@ianmacdonald4163 fuel guages fluctuate all the time as the fuel sloshes around that's not actual fuel consumption

    • @tikiman48
      @tikiman48 2 года назад +3

      @@bubba99009 yep especially in old fords

    • @IraqVet0608
      @IraqVet0608 2 года назад +4

      @@theowl2044 and a lot faster to “refuel/recharge”.

  • @larryadamski9957
    @larryadamski9957 2 года назад +338

    Wizard's little smirk when first told Hoovie was towing with an EV says it all.

    • @nickmalone3143
      @nickmalone3143 2 года назад +5

      I told wizard that EVs are junk ...he argued with me .. proof is in these facts

    • @Eric-zs6rd
      @Eric-zs6rd 2 года назад +3

      @@nickmalone3143 They aren't junk just not any good for towing or anything else that requires a lot of energy. They're really nice for commuter cars and running errands. The auto companies are trying to foist electric pickups on people and they'll work fine for the guys in lifted half tons with low gear ratios who want a brodozer, but not for people who tow or do energy intensive things with them.

    • @Ioganstone
      @Ioganstone 2 года назад +1

      EV taxpayer towing

    • @Ioganstone
      @Ioganstone 2 года назад

      @@nickmalone3143 Nah, it's just the EV crowd isn't done smelling their own farts by putting 4 electric motors on their vehicle with scant other parts and are too proud to go back to a drive train or build 4 transmissions.

  • @darvinwallis8556
    @darvinwallis8556 Год назад +16

    After reserving on day 2, I just got the email to order my Lightning. Instead of the 40k Pro I had decided to order, now, the CHEAPEST option is $74,474. The Pro and XLT are marked as 'unavailable'. This was a bait and switch scam by Ford. I'll be sticking with RAM in the future.

    • @user-ld6wo4rv8h
      @user-ld6wo4rv8h 8 месяцев назад +1

      You think dodge will be any better???

  • @jolee2433
    @jolee2433 2 года назад +356

    Imagine the range after you've owned the truck for a couple years then how much for a new battery down the road

    • @maya_coqsalonga
      @maya_coqsalonga 2 года назад +6

      The new battery that all EV manufacturers warranty for at least 8 years or more?

    • @toddsalmon6541
      @toddsalmon6541 2 года назад +19

      If the claimed battery life is proportional to the claimed battery range, you might get 4 years out of a battery. Thank goodness for warranties.

    • @YoungSandyGray
      @YoungSandyGray 2 года назад +7

      or in the cold winter months.

    • @jeremy8715
      @jeremy8715 2 года назад +24

      Regardless of the warranty, the battery degrades over time. Just like in our “smart” phones.

    • @timdeleij7105
      @timdeleij7105 2 года назад +42

      @@maya_coqsalonga so after 8 years the truck goes to the junk yard. My 2006 chevy is still worth 7 grand in condition it is in now. You can't pay me enough money to buy a 10 year old electric truck. The used market will have zero value adding to our waste when we chuck cars and trucks away after 8 years due to 20000 battery replacements

  • @padraigrab08
    @padraigrab08 2 года назад +291

    Diesel Generator option will be available soon. It will sit in the frunk 😲

    • @ic1815
      @ic1815 2 года назад +7

      Where did you get that info from? I can’t find anything on that.

    • @vibingwithvinyl
      @vibingwithvinyl 2 года назад +78

      @@ic1815 I'm quite certain that was a joke.

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje 2 года назад +12

      @@ic1815 Think he is joking. There will be a power generator option, but in the shape of a truck bed tool box.

    • @kalashnikov1343
      @kalashnikov1343 2 года назад +13

      @@ic1815 The wonderful source of boundless knowledge... Known as 'common sense'.

    • @privateparty4900
      @privateparty4900 2 года назад +16

      Diesel Electric might make a lot of sense. Winning combo for trains.

  • @gannonfamily2000
    @gannonfamily2000 2 года назад +7

    EVs are toys. The real reason we are being forced this way is to concentrate us into city areas of mass. No need for transportation cars. Just mass transport to limited areas. Takes our right to freely travel away for most.

  • @ralphcantrell3214
    @ralphcantrell3214 Год назад +23

    Apparently EV's are not worth a toot for towing. Thanks for clearing that up.

    • @brianadams429
      @brianadams429 Год назад

      No vehicle ever gets better mileage while towing. Fu*k all those battery turds. The gm one didn't get far from the dealer before it had to be towed back.

  • @modiste
    @modiste 2 года назад +58

    Hoovie - I hope this video doesn’t get demonetized so you can finally afford a second screw for the Hummer’s license plate.

  • @marktwain2053
    @marktwain2053 2 года назад +649

    Just imagine if you're having to run air-conditioning or the heater!

    • @markanthony3275
      @markanthony3275 2 года назад +67

      Or going against a 30 mph headwind...or a temperature of -20 degrees .

    • @bt-xv1fy
      @bt-xv1fy 2 года назад +4

      He must of had the heater on. I have a blueitti battery generator it was 1000$ so a nice one. it can power a small window ac unit for 6 hours a full fridge for 30 but it will not power a hair blow dryer. once the heat turns on it "pops the fuse per say" and shuts off.

    • @Origami84
      @Origami84 2 года назад +17

      When something like Ian strikes, you DONT want to be in a EV. Unless you are suicidal, of course.

    • @hafizwildones
      @hafizwildones 2 года назад

      No one realized the name... Mark Twain?

    • @That70sChannel
      @That70sChannel 2 года назад +1

      Especially in traffic.

  • @tonyvillarreal1477
    @tonyvillarreal1477 Год назад +86

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for saving me from a bad decision.

    • @Amer1can1nfidel
      @Amer1can1nfidel Год назад +7

      before this you thought a ev was a good idea?

    • @dannyo-dizzle6579
      @dannyo-dizzle6579 Год назад +1

      @@Amer1can1nfidel not all EVs are a bad idea. I agree for this scenario they are.

    • @samuelshin593
      @samuelshin593 Год назад +1

      Liberals so stupid they don't understand air is made of 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, and 1% Hydrogen with 0.05% CO2. To top that off, 99.999999999% of 0.05% of CO2 comes from microorganisms. Every square inch of Earth is microorganisms. Why do you put food inside freezers? Cold temperatures prevent bacterial growth. Same thing with Earth. Temperatures go down, bacterial growth goes down than CO2 goes down and vice versa. Look at any global temperature graph of Earth in billions of years. Temperature always had cyclical change. Always!!. Liberals soo stupid they don't understand what the sun is, which is a fusion reaction of two different isotopes of hydrogen tritium and deuterium overcoming nuclear bonds with gravity, which is extremely inefficient and causes temperature to change.

    • @karlsmith2570
      @karlsmith2570 Год назад +1

      @@dannyo-dizzle6579 maybe not a bad idea for in-town or short-range driving, but definitely a bad idea for any kind of long distance driving

  • @scottbrown7415
    @scottbrown7415 2 года назад +282

    Just imagine what the range would be if you were towing an average 18 or 22 foot long camper trailer! You should go rent a camper trailer and test that out!

    • @davidveasey3142
      @davidveasey3142 2 года назад +2

      @mizzouxc Just think "what-if" he purchased an Electric Class -A ??? What really gets me....to me at least...It appears to be self-evident that an e-vehicle of whatever construction will have a shocking towing load exponetially crushing the MPG.

    • @rupe53
      @rupe53 2 года назад +10

      there's a video out there just on that topic. They used a gas and EV version to tow two identical 20 ft RVs (borrowed from a dealer) and compared the results.

    • @ramotinmahazol240
      @ramotinmahazol240 2 года назад +31

      TFL did that. Lasted 80 miles. Uphill it lasted 12 miles. EV is stupid.

    • @jack-of-all-trades1234
      @jack-of-all-trades1234 2 года назад +19

      How about towing during a California blackout?

    • @joshuabrunetta4656
      @joshuabrunetta4656 2 года назад +7

      @@ramotinmahazol240 wait what? It did 12 miles from full charge to empty ?!?!

  • @superhawk20002
    @superhawk20002 2 года назад +143

    Should have used the Model A to tow the Lightning. Everything would have worked out better.

    • @702Jeffrey
      @702Jeffrey 2 года назад +3

      ROFL best comment

    • @capricetony
      @capricetony 2 года назад +2

      😂😂😂😂😂lmao 👍

    • @Jcgordon73
      @Jcgordon73 2 года назад

      Maybe a closer to fair comparison, the f150 is first in a way also, right? Not one of a million cranked out a year like the 100 year old Ford gas vehicle, right?!

  • @madeinfoxtrap5539
    @madeinfoxtrap5539 2 года назад +325

    Looks real promising for EV semi haulers moving TONS over long distances….

    • @JonR_1138
      @JonR_1138 2 года назад +6

      Edison motors has a good solution for semi tractors.

    • @rockguitarist931
      @rockguitarist931 2 года назад

      @@JonR_1138 or you could admit that EV's don't work as well as the Lefties want them to

    • @timmbos
      @timmbos 2 года назад +16

      Can you just imagine what that monster battery costs in the semi? I'm guessing at least 100k!

    • @kanehorath7222
      @kanehorath7222 2 года назад +9

      @@JonR_1138 I bet it’s nowhere near good enough though

    • @JonR_1138
      @JonR_1138 2 года назад

      @@kanehorath7222 here's a link to their RUclips page. They're still testing but it looks promising. Basically the truck is battery powered but it carries its own electric generator to recharge. ruclips.net/channel/UCUEzfzqf2fx3C1vs0MlgShA

  • @_ROADRANGER
    @_ROADRANGER Год назад +42

    How bad would it be with the headlights heater and windshield wipers?

  • @Mister_Belvidere
    @Mister_Belvidere 2 года назад +256

    I read an article about someone moving from Detroit to California, and they used their Rivian to tow their Mustang on a trailer. They needed 28 charging stops to go 2700 miles.

    • @goingindieEN
      @goingindieEN 2 года назад +3

      Interesting. With a mid size truck too.

    • @ozarkliving7263
      @ozarkliving7263 2 года назад +13

      @Simon Hsa 😂😂😂 exactly

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 2 года назад +16

      @Simon Hsa at least California isn't a frozen wasteland

    • @andrewreil3938
      @andrewreil3938 2 года назад +25

      I would have ditched the Rivian on the way and just drove the Mustang.

    • @JackBeckman
      @JackBeckman 2 года назад +31

      @@BigWheel. But we have heat, water, and electricity, unlike the People's Republik of Kalifornia..

  • @LEGIOXIIIG
    @LEGIOXIIIG 2 года назад +256

    I can just imagine the Ford executive team watching this video, having heart palpitations...and the amount of work their PR team is going to have on its hands.

    • @starguy9
      @starguy9 2 года назад +80

      They truly don't care. Ev vehicles have been decided on by powers greater than them. It has nothing to do with anything other than controlling where and what people will be able to do in the future.

    • @spaceflight1019
      @spaceflight1019 2 года назад +27

      The latest is having to blow into a breathalyzer to get permission to drive your car even if you're not an alcoholic.

    • @michaeltucker9993
      @michaeltucker9993 2 года назад +13

      @@starguy9 BINGO!

    • @robaudi20v
      @robaudi20v 2 года назад +8

      @@starguy9 100% correct

    • @jbrovage
      @jbrovage 2 года назад +12

      LOL. it's funny you think this is their worry. they will sell every one of these they make. 90% of the F150 market is for folks who never tow. it's an American status symbol; doubly so as an electric.

  • @sigmahyperion955
    @sigmahyperion955 2 года назад +134

    I don't know what happened to your camera stabilization at the Wizards but, holy crap I nearly yarfed with all the image jiggle

    • @mtnvalley9298
      @mtnvalley9298 2 года назад

      🤢🤮

    • @mediapark101
      @mediapark101 2 года назад +5

      The stabilisation on the GoPro is fantastic....until the light drops just a little - ie indoors even in Wizard's garage - then it goes to crap. I'd recommend Hoovie upgrades to a couple of DJI Pocket 2s. Unfortunately you need at least two as they don't have interchangeable batteries so if you want to do a serious session of filming you need at least 2.

    • @johnnyquest4287
      @johnnyquest4287 2 года назад +2

      Noticed that too, had to skip ahead because I was getting dizzy.

    • @Zaph31
      @Zaph31 2 года назад +1

      @@mediapark101 The Pockets are great little cameras when paired with an inexpensive battery grip. It nearly triples session length

    • @danherrick5785
      @danherrick5785 2 года назад

      I can't believe what people complain about...

  • @joshgarcia7148
    @joshgarcia7148 2 года назад +176

    What a pain. Having to worry about range ahead of time, then losing it unpredictability while towing. I prefer less stress and more headroom in case anything goes wrong. Of course we're in Alaska, but regardless, buy a diesel, full sized spare, top off the tank and carry appropriate emergency gear and you have almost no worries.

    • @manilamartin1001
      @manilamartin1001 2 года назад +11

      Same here in the Philippines. Roads here suck on a good day, during typhoon season I can't tell you how awful it would be driving through farm mud and seeing your battery die

    • @neometalx9
      @neometalx9 2 года назад

      Yeah that's why I'll be keeping my diesel truck, EV is just retarded now.

    • @hahzhhchebe2393
      @hahzhhchebe2393 2 года назад

      Meanwhile libs want to force EV on us. Been saying it for some time, it won’t be practical for decades, especially on a massive school.

    • @--_-_-_-74..
      @--_-_-_-74.. 2 года назад +8

      How do batteries do in the freezing weather ? Or the 120 plus in Arizona ? I don't think their worth it . My friend just replaced batteries in her car it was $29, 000 Installed.

    • @SI0AX
      @SI0AX 2 года назад

      @@--_-_-_-74.. IMO, EV is going to be the new gasoline and Hydrogen is going to be the new diesel. Hydrogen for work, EV for A-B transport.

  • @mikescherrer4923
    @mikescherrer4923 2 года назад +23

    It's so quiet you can hear the tow truck coming to pick it up from a mile away.

  • @michaelthomas4125
    @michaelthomas4125 2 года назад +103

    Probably would have got better range if you pulled the ev with the old truck. Maybe slow and less comfortable but you would probably get there lol.

    • @lawrencebraun7616
      @lawrencebraun7616 2 года назад +1

      If he runs out of battery he can switch then around.

  • @888Longball
    @888Longball 8 месяцев назад +6

    Now, if the battery gets low enough, you can tow the lightening with the Model A. 😂😂

  • @michiganpowerwashingpros
    @michiganpowerwashingpros 2 года назад +264

    Literally had an argument with a dealership in regards to our needs and how inefficient these would be for us especially in the winter.

    • @thisishowiedewitt76
      @thisishowiedewitt76 2 года назад +23

      Why would you “argue” with a dealer about that? That’s just stupid. They don’t care which vehicle you buy from them as long as you buy a vehicle from them.

    • @TheEnd-eg6wq
      @TheEnd-eg6wq 2 года назад +35

      @@thisishowiedewitt76 Lol, you really have no clue do you?

    • @michiganpowerwashingpros
      @michiganpowerwashingpros 2 года назад +32

      @@thisishowiedewitt76 How is it that no matter what you say on the internet someone finds something wrong with it 😆
      Fact is, was a dealer displaying a truck on a video feed. Point was the truck in ev form couldn’t handle or haul for the reasons displayed in this video nor would it be capable of handling a 3k lb skid of ours or a 10k lb trailer when the ratings and ranges were brought up and commercial use mentioned.
      Hope this helps understanding the context I didn’t feel was necessary.

    • @albandrejaj
      @albandrejaj 2 года назад

      Imagine that. That stupid sales person is inexperienced and pure poop

    • @David-ys4xb
      @David-ys4xb 2 года назад +17

      @@thisishowiedewitt76 They have incentive to pitch EVs.

  • @paymaker11
    @paymaker11 2 года назад +173

    Cold weather test and towing a set of sleds would be a nice test!

    • @johnberry2877
      @johnberry2877 2 года назад +7

      Nice test…😂😂😂 laughable here in Michigan ! What a freekin joke !!

    • @MrShuntking
      @MrShuntking 2 года назад +6

      This is/was a cold weather test. The moment you take one of these EVs out of the perfect sweet spot for temp you instantly lose range. It only gets worst the further you move away from that sweet spot. A fabulous Canadian Winter day you would see 1/3 of the range gone just because it happens to be -10c outside. The dirty side of EVs no one wants to really talk about. BTW extreme heat like in AZ and Texas where you see days above 100c also destroy the range.

    • @Enonymouse_
      @Enonymouse_ 2 года назад +3

      I think you'd see an even more dramatic loss, probably leading to you being towed home.

    • @sluggo2014
      @sluggo2014 2 года назад

      Or nuclear winter, cuz that's a thing now. The radiation might even help.

    • @jaredkelly930
      @jaredkelly930 Год назад +1

      You’d be screwed in Wyoming, there’s places you can easily go 80 miles before you see another town.

  • @blankeny
    @blankeny 2 года назад +290

    Being an Electrical Engineer, this is just heart breaking. But not unexpected. Battery technology just isn't there yet.

    • @spooderdoggy
      @spooderdoggy 2 года назад +24

      No knock to you miss. I’m sure your a great electrical engineer. The issue at hand is Ford telling the public this truck gets X amount of range, and in the real world the range is nowhere near the claim. Our government in the United States is pushing EVs and high gas prices and no one is happy. Hoovie surprises me because he bought this truck like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and all I heard on alternative media is the truth about EVs, their real costs, and limited range. 🤷🏻‍♂️
      I guess what I’m saying is maybe you would be a better electrical engineer for Ford than the ones they got. Consider applying there because you seem to have more sense about the reality of EVs than them. 🤔
      Have a good one. 🇺🇸

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 2 года назад +5

      Well, Hoovie did buy the small battery.

    • @chubstheclown
      @chubstheclown 2 года назад +9

      Battery tech is further along than this video suggests. The guy chose the F150 lightning with the smallest battery pack.

    • @abelq8008
      @abelq8008 2 года назад +18

      There shouldn't even be a small battery pack, it's going to spread alot of bad P.R. for Ford if they sell a toy version of their flagship truck.

    • @cujoedaman
      @cujoedaman 2 года назад

      California says it's good enough, they're making gas engines illegal.

  • @prblakeslee
    @prblakeslee Год назад +2

    Very nice video with hard data. That said, over 75% of truck owners NEVER have towed a thing with their Truck. Also, Millennials overtake Boomers and Gen X as biggest buyers of pickup trucks in U.S. for first time. Millennials want EV vehicles not because they need to tow, but simply because they "think they are cool". Source: CNBC Michael Wayland editorial.

  • @afre3398
    @afre3398 2 года назад +45

    Ah those pesky laws of physics. Hard to get around them ;)

  • @HashiAkitaPuppy
    @HashiAkitaPuppy 2 года назад +258

    Make a video where you just put 2,000 pounds of cargo in the truck like they say you can and see how that affects the mileage.

    • @moderngentlemanschool
      @moderngentlemanschool 2 года назад +7

      I want to see this too. I regularly go skiing with 1,400lbs of cargo and passengers and I want to know how that affects range.

    • @HashiAkitaPuppy
      @HashiAkitaPuppy 2 года назад +5

      @@moderngentlemanschool Yup, I never tow anything, but I would sure like to know how it does up in the mountains with a load of stuff packed in. My Sierra hardly even notices that it's carrying extra weight as far as MPG goes.

    • @aknmtbr
      @aknmtbr 2 года назад +2

      I doubt it would affect it much. Pretty much all EVs efficiency loss is due to drag. This explains a lot
      ruclips.net/video/S4W-P5aCWJs/видео.html

    • @davidmount9117
      @davidmount9117 2 года назад

      Bump! Great idea

    • @tazeat
      @tazeat 2 года назад

      Here's a max payload efficiency test: ruclips.net/video/6oKRfOpZi-Y/видео.html
      I keep saying it, but it's all about the aero. On inclines in to the mountains you'll use more energy going up, but you'll regen it going back down, friction losses stay about the same.

  • @ragnardanneskjold7675
    @ragnardanneskjold7675 2 года назад +12

    I find it funny that the switch to EV's is supposed to be about efficiency and saving the environment and the first thing auto manufacturers do with an EV is make them do sub 3 second in some cases 0-60 times and cost 80-100k when they could be built with more moderate performance in mind and higher mileage to charge while costing less for the general population.

    • @GT-bz9nc
      @GT-bz9nc 2 года назад +1

      Performance is exactly the reason I bought the Model 3 Performance edition. The environment will take care of itself, but 0-60 in 3.1 seconds, wicked handling, and cool software are what makes an EV worth every dime.

  • @ourpetsheadsarefallingoff6654
    @ourpetsheadsarefallingoff6654 2 года назад +50

    That old ford pickup is absolutely beautiful

  • @53glowe
    @53glowe 2 года назад +118

    Great real world test. Another test would be to put a load (e.g 1000lb) in the rear tub and see what impact that has on range. Most reviewers (not you) test EV range with only the driver on board. I am yet to see a range test with an EV carrying passengers and their luggage. I want to see this for sure👍

    • @Indypacecar82
      @Indypacecar82 2 года назад +2

      A reviewer did the payload test with the Lightning and the R1T. I believe the channel was out of spec reviews

    • @scottbrown7415
      @scottbrown7415 2 года назад +14

      I believe that the range is impacted as much by the aerodynamic drag and road friction as it is by the increased mass. I am not against the whole EV concept. They have a role to play in the mix of choices. But, the notion of a half ton truck EV is ludicrous given the cost and limited useability.
      The Ford Lightning is proof that, just like the idea of a 600 lb fashion model, just because you CAN do it doesn't mean that you SHOULD do it. I feel bad for Ford, it feels like they are hurtling down the wrong path.

    • @stuc.6592
      @stuc.6592 2 года назад +5

      I've got a Mitsubishi PHEV and range drops by about 10% when loaded with four people, so it's not horrendous. The real killer is cold weather - when we get near freezing I don't bother charging it as the range drops to about 7 miles (from 30) and it's just as expensive as using the engine in hybrid mode.

    • @abjz71
      @abjz71 2 года назад +1

      The fast lane truck channel did it with loaded trailers as well the results were just as bad

    • @keithallen3119
      @keithallen3119 2 года назад +1

      @@scottbrown7415 Look at the CEO, (Mary Barra) of GM saying all electric by 2035. Unless she knows something about battery development we don't I suspect GM won't be in the truck game. Of course we were told we'd be the Jetsons by the year 2000 back when as well. Dating myself here.

  • @hymns4ever197
    @hymns4ever197 2 года назад +103

    I didn't see if it had a hitch, but maybe he could have used the Raptor to tow the Lightning. It was probably narrow enough to fit on the trailer, and the Raptor likely had plenty of towing power. A sight we will likely see more of in the future. 😀

    • @oldbloke135
      @oldbloke135 2 года назад +7

      From the crunching noise it made when he squeezed it, I think the Raptor would have broken in half if he had tried that.

    • @nathanbrinkerhoff5886
      @nathanbrinkerhoff5886 2 года назад

      It does have a hitch receiver.

    • @drowssapma
      @drowssapma 2 года назад +1

      @@oldbloke135 Yeah, no. That 6.2 is bulletproof. That was simply the cab corners...common on the F-150s.
      If you went with the towing capability, well, there you would have an argument. Raptors need some suspension goodies to really tow since the travel on those shocks approach almost 1ft.

    • @lapinebob
      @lapinebob 2 года назад +5

      So, I see every EV pickup will need to tow an auxiliary pickup on a trailer to make sure they can get home after work.

  • @joewoodchuck3824
    @joewoodchuck3824 2 года назад +12

    EVs are being rushed to market before there's enough infrastructure to support them.

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 2 года назад +1

      .. or before batteries have got anywhere near the energy density of fuels.

    • @Remix2366
      @Remix2366 2 года назад

      Or... it's just ford

    • @joewoodchuck3824
      @joewoodchuck3824 2 года назад +2

      @@Remix2366 All the companies are trying to get an early slice of the pie. None of them want to be late after all.

    • @joewoodchuck3824
      @joewoodchuck3824 2 года назад

      @@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 Advances in development will take care of that. In all fairness it already has in order to reach the point we're at.

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 2 года назад +2

      @@joewoodchuck3824 Repeat after me: energy density. A gallon of gasoline has roughly 32 KWh electricity energy equivalent. That much lithium battery energy capacity costs around 1000x what the gasoline costs, and is a lot larger and heavier.
      Would you purchase an expensive car with a tiny gas tank that had to be replaced after every 800 fill-ups, and where the cost of the gas tank is a large fraction of the cost of the whole vehicle>

  • @79tazman
    @79tazman 2 года назад +69

    I'll take that 1930 model A pickup over that EV anyday of the week

    • @Kevin-kb6uq
      @Kevin-kb6uq 2 года назад +4

      That makes two of us!

    • @mattz5770
      @mattz5770 2 года назад +1

      No question about it. Model A all day.

    • @thewatchersofthewood3530
      @thewatchersofthewood3530 2 года назад +1

      Most EVs are just appliances like your washing machine. You need it but do not care about it.

  • @Brani1974
    @Brani1974 Год назад +123

    Use the Lightning's cargo space for placing a pedal bike connected to a generator and have a friend, or two, pedal as hard as they can while you drive...and you may get a whole extra 20miles from it 🤣

    • @AutisticMorty
      @AutisticMorty Год назад +2

      Might as well hookup the pedal power directly to the driveshaft, add 20 more bicycle seats, get rid of the heavy electric motors and lithium batteries, and hire a town of Amish to peddle for a few hours. You'll probably get better results. Or just drive the Model T to the destination rofl

    • @bretb8799
      @bretb8799 Год назад +4

      Yeah I'd carry a 50amp generator to keep it charged. So much for "no emissions" oh and the electricity is from coal or natural gas anyhow.

    • @alp3781
      @alp3781 Год назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @danfarris135
    @danfarris135 Год назад +9

    Good thing you still had a real back up truck to get home with.

  • @nwascorpio
    @nwascorpio 2 года назад +149

    Got to love "Hoovies Towing Reviews".
    Been subscribed, for years.
    I just can't wait to see what you tow next.

    • @Manhandle730
      @Manhandle730 2 года назад

      No you don’t actually. This guy is a gigantic tool.

    • @josephhouk6703
      @josephhouk6703 2 года назад +8

      For the dense out there, this is SARCASM.

    • @Loachie90
      @Loachie90 2 года назад +6

      @@josephhouk6703 or “fake news” for the Infowars crowd 😂

    • @acronus
      @acronus 2 года назад +2

      TFL truck be like
      "We dodged a bullet"

    • @theblubus
      @theblubus 2 года назад +1

      hahahahahahaha Love it

  • @benjamincreen4496
    @benjamincreen4496 2 года назад +316

    I would like to see that test done again in winter with the heater on, I bet you will lose at least 30% range without the trailer and with a trailer might have to charge to make it back. My ev loses anywhere from 30% to 60% range depending on how cold it is. There were times I could barely made 60 miles with a 120 mile range. When temps drop below freezing EVs range just plain out suck.

    • @brandonm4913
      @brandonm4913 2 года назад +39

      My boss drives a Tesla and in below freezing temps her range is cut by about 40% per her report.

    • @rhyancole5222
      @rhyancole5222 2 года назад +20

      Your boss is a mindless follower.

    • @TheSleepingonit
      @TheSleepingonit 2 года назад

      So go back to gas?

    • @LeanLover
      @LeanLover 2 года назад +7

      no actually he is a boss

    • @JonnyBeoulve
      @JonnyBeoulve 2 года назад +24

      EV has no business being mainstream right now. needs way more research and development

  • @25Nightops
    @25Nightops 2 года назад +165

    Looks like you could have used a little more drop in your hitch to level the trailer out. Also probably should have towed the lightning home with the Raptor, so you could then go back and get the model A.

    • @jaredchampagne2752
      @jaredchampagne2752 2 года назад +8

      Thats actually a REALLY good point..

    • @hmaccas738
      @hmaccas738 2 года назад +3

      It's probably doesn't have registration which is why he's towing it.

    • @jbranche8024
      @jbranche8024 2 года назад +4

      I was thinking same thing. Hopefully battery tech will make some major leaps in range and recharge time soon.

    • @howardanon7433
      @howardanon7433 2 года назад +3

      @@jbranche8024 Haha especially for California

    • @sdfsdf2205
      @sdfsdf2205 2 года назад +11

      @@howardanon7433 In before rolling blackouts with the amount of EV's.. oh Newson.

  • @danmim6373
    @danmim6373 Год назад +3

    The truck is garbage! Electric is a waste of time and money.

  • @terrymoorecnc2500
    @terrymoorecnc2500 2 года назад +18

    Lightning huh? Gives new meaning to Found on Road Discharged.

  • @Richie-Rich855
    @Richie-Rich855 2 года назад +57

    This video affirmed my decision to cancel my F Lightening order 6 months ago. There are a number of videos and articles that reveal very poor range while towing. I'll be keeping my coyote 5.0 V8 F150 until heck freezes over.

    • @abelq8008
      @abelq8008 2 года назад +2

      It should be called the E-Lightning to differentiate itself from the real deal 😂

    • @TheBandit7613
      @TheBandit7613 2 года назад +1

      It took 2 solid weeks towing cross country with the Rivian.
      My F350 isn't going anywhere.

    • @Newoak
      @Newoak 2 года назад

      ​@@TheBandit7613 I wonder why amazon is ordering so many of these, and the us post office and others. Surely they know the truth... In G-d I trust.

    • @artoodeetoo3064
      @artoodeetoo3064 2 года назад

      It's the internet. You can say hell.
      Heck, you can say shit, fuck, ass and tits as well...

    • @TheBandit7613
      @TheBandit7613 2 года назад

      @@Newoak I heavy tow off-road vehicles all over the west. I think EVS will be really good for local work. I end up in some really desolate places. Not yet.

  • @robbenoit6065
    @robbenoit6065 2 года назад +213

    That thing would work sweet if you had a gas generator in the back👌

    • @mesprojects674
      @mesprojects674 2 года назад +16

      Charge it off the model A…because that’s more reliable 😂

    • @Sweet68Camaro
      @Sweet68Camaro 2 года назад +15

      That generator in the back is to heavy, you will lose to much range. 🤣

    • @origin2211
      @origin2211 2 года назад +8

      Why not a coal burning engine?

    • @oldmanvic
      @oldmanvic 2 года назад +3

      Will be better with a diesel generator

    • @jameshendrickson8159
      @jameshendrickson8159 2 года назад +1

      I honestly think you'd benefit from using a pto driven generator, then you'd have "perpetual energy drive " like a mini warp drive in a Ford. That Nickola Tesla dude was a smart cookie inventing alternating current electricity

  • @mikehw7526
    @mikehw7526 Год назад +3

    Motor Trend's truck of the year,How much did Ford pay for that?

  • @jimmotormedic
    @jimmotormedic 2 года назад +79

    I'm not sure how the electric truck thing is going to work out, but I'm absolutely certain that in 90 years no one is going to be putting it on a trailer and towing it with anything! Give me the Model A, back when things were simple. Thanks for doing the story. People need to see real world results!

    • @dukeljk2191
      @dukeljk2191 2 года назад

      Liberals will have us all killed by then

    • @Jcewazhere
      @Jcewazhere 2 года назад

      Electric cars are more simple than internal combustions ones though >.>
      The electric motor has two parts: a stator and a rotor.
      Plus no need for a complicated transmission, several pumps for oil and fuel, complicated timing to make sure the little explosions go off in the right order, a driveshaft and all that mess to take energy from one big motor to the other wheels, an exhaust system to make sure those noxious gases don't suffocate you and so the car's not deafeningly loud, complicated air intakes so the little explosions can happen... and so on.

    • @jimmotormedic
      @jimmotormedic 2 года назад +5

      @@Jcewazhere I totally agree with you and being a mechanic for over 35 years I can see the benefits from some situations that electric vehicles would be excellent for. However many people don't realize that electric vehicles have been around almost as long as internal combustion engines ( maybe longer) but it's been the same problem since it's inception, battery reliability and durability. They are rushing these vehicles into production with substandard batteries that if they don't get perfected are going to ruin the concept much like General Motors did with the diesel back in the late 70s and early 80s. I have friends that work at the River Rouge plant that produce these trucks and I've seen pictures of batteries catching fire in there shipping racks before they are even installed in the truck. They know there's a problem but they push on and put product out that is not acceptable. What is going to happen when this vehicle is parked in your garage charging at night? Or just going down the road? Again I think it's a great idea and will definitely be a main form of transportation at some point but the batteries are not ready yet and in my opinion down right dangerous!

    • @Nikkk6969
      @Nikkk6969 2 года назад

      Well the main reason they’re mass producing EVs now is bc of government putting the foot down on emissions more and more every year

  • @missgibsen6767
    @missgibsen6767 2 года назад +7

    Don't fool yourself, buying an electric car will come back and bite you in the A$$ .... as it did my family ! ... Forget Batteries ! ... an lets move on to a newer energy source that won't poison everybody on earth !!

  • @sem4502
    @sem4502 2 года назад +96

    Try your range at -20 below, with the heater on. Good luck.

    • @salvadorarreguin3910
      @salvadorarreguin3910 2 года назад +15

      Down the block and back 😂

    • @jordanalexander1592
      @jordanalexander1592 2 года назад +5

      And do it with a 5-10 min warm up while unplugged with the heater on before leaving. Lmao. Down the Driveway and back ;)

    • @beezalporquait
      @beezalporquait 2 года назад +5

      In California a couple of weeks ago in September it was so hot people were asked not to charge their electric vehicles because the grid could not handle it.

    • @sem4502
      @sem4502 2 года назад

      @@beezalporquait
      That's the State that's going to ban gas engines. Why are there so many corrupt politicians in California ? Is it the system or the low information voter ?

    • @brianjohnson6053
      @brianjohnson6053 Год назад +2

      Ford died in 79. Thats why im still running my 74 3/4 ton ford as a daily driver

  • @hunterbradford2697
    @hunterbradford2697 Год назад +3

    What'd you expect it's a battery powered toy vehicle

  • @DsonicJ5672
    @DsonicJ5672 2 года назад +135

    Just imagine towing it uphill 😂

    • @markdavid4897
      @markdavid4897 2 года назад +16

      In a headwind.

    • @elithepitbulldog2209
      @elithepitbulldog2209 2 года назад +16

      @@markdavid4897 with the AC on…..

    • @northdakotaham1752
      @northdakotaham1752 2 года назад +9

      If it was a long grade the truck probably wouldn't have made it to the top. It was using four times the range just pulling on flat ground. Ford is going to lose their shirt on this BS. Big mistake on their part.

    • @Ioganstone
      @Ioganstone 2 года назад +4

      @@northdakotaham1752 It's not Ford, it's the rampant handouts they get from the "Concerned" EV buyers [taxpayer sheep]
      "Promising greater efficiency, CVT systems may allow electric vehicles to increase their range-a key concern of potential EV buyers."

    • @stuc.6592
      @stuc.6592 2 года назад +5

      In the winter - he'd be lucky to get home. Batteries really don't like being cold and with heating on, range drops dramatically.

  • @brandonhunziker9686
    @brandonhunziker9686 2 года назад +61

    A plug-in hybrid pickup with 50 miles of all-electric range and then kicking over to a gas engine for longer trips and towing would be the best compromise. Not going to happen, but it makes the most sense.

    • @JonBusey
      @JonBusey Год назад +5

      except you have to have an engine and a motor, transmission, and everything you need for propulsion, twice. The beauty of electric vehicles is the simplicity and lack of moving parts that generic heat and require grease.

    • @flt528
      @flt528 Год назад +5

      Why not going to happen? We have a plug-in hybrid SUV with 50+ miles of range (rav4) and it's fantastic. It's an EV 90% of the time and on those few occasions when we tow or go on longer trips it's a gas-burning car that gets as much as 45 miles per gallon.

    • @brandonhunziker9686
      @brandonhunziker9686 Год назад +5

      @@flt528 I wish it would, but the industry - outside of Toyota - seems to be going all-in on fully electric pickups. I could be wrong - maybe there will be a backlash because of the towing issue, which a plug-in would solve. But it seems this is where the industry is headed (although I suspect they'll be offer heavy duty trucks (F250s, etc) with big diesel and gas engines for years to come for serious work).
      Another issue with EVs and towing is charging. Due to the space restrictions at chargers, you'd likely have to unhitch the trailer, charge, and then hitch it up again. None of this matters if you're just going to a local lake with your boat or taking the utility trailer to Home Depot. But for long-distance towing - or just contractors who are towing a trailer around all day - EV trucks just aren't going to be practical.
      I own a Chrysler Pacific plug-in hybrid. I get around 30 miles per charge, enough to work and back. It covers about 90% of my driving as well. I get gas maybe once every two months - average about 35 mpg on the hybrid/gas combo. I never worry about charging and long trips are much more convenient - don't care what EV drivers say. It's the best of both worlds in my opinion.

    • @ABlindHilbily
      @ABlindHilbily Год назад

      GE owns the patent that diesel electric trains use. As far as I know that's still the standard for long range fuel efficiency. Unfortunately, they aren't licensing the technology for use in vehicles at this moment. Hopefully all commercial trucks will switch over eventually.

    • @karlsmith2570
      @karlsmith2570 Год назад +2

      Plug-Hybrids for be a far more practical choice over this electric BS

  • @derrickfarrar5736
    @derrickfarrar5736 2 года назад +286

    I'd love to see a Diesel comparison ( real world ) IE use a diesel generator and charge the lightning from 0-100% , then use your Dodge Diesel and see what range you can get on the same amount of fuel towing the same load. It would be interesting to see .

    • @DownRange9703
      @DownRange9703 2 года назад +74

      Then time the entire test. Because it takes hours to charge and minutes to fill.

    • @75Beef
      @75Beef 2 года назад +43

      @@DownRange9703 And time is money.

    • @Jsims111
      @Jsims111 2 года назад

      That is so dumb. Dumb enought that somebody should try it on the dumbest automotive channel in all of youtube. ;)

    • @michaelb4546
      @michaelb4546 2 года назад +41

      The Diesel truck would win. You lose potential energy through heat twice with the EV and only once with the Diesel truck.

    • @noirceur_
      @noirceur_ 2 года назад +15

      My 1970 International Travelall 4x4 1100D 345 v8 (not diesel) gets 10-11mpg with normal driving. It also gets 10-11 mpg while towing our 7200lb fully loaded race trailer.
      I'd imagine a modern day diesel would hover around 90%+ of the same unloaded performance.

  • @CarlOrlando
    @CarlOrlando 6 месяцев назад +2

    The range estimator adjusts for the speed you are driving. Same way if your gas range adjusts if you’re going 10mph or 75mph. I really don’t know what’s so difficult to understand about this.

  • @bucket0rocks
    @bucket0rocks 2 года назад +160

    knew it would be this way. thanks for demonstrating this to the people who didnt think it through. please repeat this test in the snow.

    • @OswaldBeef
      @OswaldBeef 2 года назад +3

      Right? A 20$ electric rc car would teach this lesson heheh

    • @joeldowell5059
      @joeldowell5059 2 года назад +2

      "So I've gone 5 miles down the road and have about 2% range left"

    • @craiglizt8074
      @craiglizt8074 2 года назад

      @@joeldowell5059 🤣🤣

    • @T4nkcommander
      @T4nkcommander 2 года назад +3

      The amount of arguing I've had to do on this point approaches incredulity. Thankfully now I can just point to this video.

    • @Largetalons
      @Largetalons 2 года назад +2

      @@OswaldBeef if you want to talk lessons compare the same priced brushless r/c to a gas one lol. Electric left internal combustion behind a long time ago.

  • @brian-um8qf
    @brian-um8qf 2 года назад +10

    If this is the future, the future sucks.

    • @gs98999
      @gs98999 2 года назад

      People just say it's the future because that's what they hear in the news.

    • @Not-Great-at-Gaming
      @Not-Great-at-Gaming 2 года назад +1

      We're in the bad timeline.

    • @rogersmith7396
      @rogersmith7396 2 года назад

      So does the present. The past is shaky.

  • @dougcox3990
    @dougcox3990 2 года назад +61

    I reckon you should tow the EV with the Model A.

    • @mem10938
      @mem10938 2 года назад +1

      😂🤣

    • @TheGreyGhost_of43rd
      @TheGreyGhost_of43rd 2 года назад +3

      Thats what a man would do

    • @stevefarris9433
      @stevefarris9433 2 года назад +3

      I thought the same thing. That tiny little gasoline engine would do a better job. This EV crap is just that, CRAP! I am old and drove that little 34 pickup from Dallas Texas to San Francisco. Ran like the well oiled machine it was.

    • @ScoobyGSXR750
      @ScoobyGSXR750 2 года назад

      @@TheGreyGhost_of43rd yes, so masculine 🙄

    • @nitroxylictv
      @nitroxylictv 2 года назад

      @@stevefarris9433 the model A would probably be slow as hell but im sure it would go a lot farther than that pos ev

  • @Ang3lUki
    @Ang3lUki Год назад +20

    I think range is going to be an extremely persistant problem with EVs. EV power density is a problem that butts directly against the laws of physics. It's very hard to get much more energy dense than we are now, batteries don't progress like semiconductors. Lipo batteries are lipo batteries, it doesn't matter how small the parts are, it'll holds the same charge per kg as any other lipo.

    • @vorpalinferno9711
      @vorpalinferno9711 Год назад +2

      Better batteries are on the way. But it will take time.

    • @jakethesnake2655
      @jakethesnake2655 Год назад +1

      No better batteries are not on the way, they don't get much better with the tech we got.

    • @zteaxon7787
      @zteaxon7787 10 месяцев назад +1

      They need to just create hybrid cars with electric drivetrains until they find a way to create better batteries

    • @pgr0104
      @pgr0104 10 месяцев назад

      @@zteaxon7787Yeah I really don’t understand why the vast majority of manufacturers haven’t gone in this direction… especially with applications like trucks.

  • @stackheads
    @stackheads 2 года назад +40

    So much for the trucking industry going electric 😂😂😂

    • @KaceyGreen
      @KaceyGreen 2 года назад +1

      They have speed and time constraints, the electric Semis are built around this and they get an extra two tons of capacity too. The MCS charging network will pump megawatts into them to meet the short breaks and slower chargers can be used for their overnights (team drivers would use MCS all the time)

    • @avery4528
      @avery4528 2 года назад +1

      How long would it take a trucker to go the 10 hours though? It would definitely be more than 12, and you would lose out if you’re a team.

    • @avery4528
      @avery4528 2 года назад +2

      Definitely not worth it. Hydrogen would be better, but you’d have to create nuclear power plants, but to have funding for that you would have to create a carbon tax, which Americans would never do.

    • @KaceyGreen
      @KaceyGreen 2 года назад

      @@avery4528 I have only looked deeply into the Tesla, 30 minutes to get back your 10 hours, but they're using a standard charger connectors this time around, so others should be similar if they mind their aerodynamics and battery sizes.
      The only thing hydrogen offers is refueling speed but for passenger cars it costs more than gas, I want H2 to do well but I have no confidence it's going anywhere except possibly heavy shipping and aircraft, but even then you need to build out an infrastructure, while with electricity you plug into worldwide infrastructure.

    • @zmass
      @zmass 2 года назад +1

      Hate to bring up the name but the Tesla Semi has good range at full load. There is a demo in YT somewhere. Batteries will improve too, already are.

  • @jeffbrown3963
    @jeffbrown3963 2 года назад +38

    A set of draft horses from an Amish farm has a better towing range and has biodegradable exhaust! Lol Thanks for the honest video!

    • @gingerman5123
      @gingerman5123 2 года назад +4

      My first thought was someone buying that old pickup back in the day and saying it was ridiculous because his horse could tow just as much in a wagon and I don't have to bother with flammable gasoline. EV is still in its infancy but it's growing up quickly.

    • @MrPland1992
      @MrPland1992 2 года назад +2

      A corvette actually produces less carbon emissions that a horse.

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo 2 года назад +7

      @@gingerman5123 I have to disagree. EVs aren't in their infancy, EVs are nearly at the brink of what's physically possible, atleast in their current form. A battery can only store so much energy and electric engines have been used and develloped for nearly as long as gasoline engines and they are much simpler, so there aren't many things that can be twerked to make them more efficient.

    • @treelineresearch3387
      @treelineresearch3387 2 года назад +4

      @@gingerman5123 There's no significant battery capacity increase on the horizon. Li-Ion is about where it was 10 years ago in terms of capacity per cell. Tesla's beer can batteries are mostly about increasing packing density because energy density isn't moving. Maybe one of the lab toy cells that's been 2 years away for the last 10 years will finally come to fruition and actually make battery-electric viable for more than city cars, but I'm not holding my breath.