DARKSIDERS 2 (Zero Punctuation)
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2012
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This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Darksiders 2.
Fast-talking Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw reviews a new game each week in this animated series that combines informed critique with cutting humor. Watch the next episode of Zero Punctuation a week early, only on The Escapist.
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"It's a bloody long game! My first playthrough clocked in at 20h" Oh boy, he doesn't know nothing yet, the future hold nothing but pain and 50h singleplayer campaigns for young Yahtzee. I wonder if he ever comes back to oldder videos such as this to contemplate on the current state of gaming
20 hour novedays is the AC creed proluge island and you watched 5 hour cutscene in it.
Bible written by Image Comics in the 90s, priceless :-D
Ryusuta Not funny.
Ryusuta Yes, but I'm just letting you know it wasn't for some other people ;D .
cloudtx Those people need to untwist the god-loving panties from their undercarriages and learn to laugh. For instance, whenever people make jokes about atheists, I'm like "Yeah... we DO like money. Oh you guys, mocking atheists."
Clan Sullivan I would TOTALLY want a 90s Image Comics Bible.
I dislike how they went with fury and strife instead of pestilence and famine. Not for religious reasons, but rather because plague powers and devouring people would work as powers
+Youngerhampster I was hugely disappointed when I found out, it undermined the entire context. Four Horsemen of what, exactly? Who are these guys after all
+WeeWeeJumbo three brothers and a sister who fought a war against the other pre time races, managed to survive while all the other nephilim died.
Realized they only have one personality quirk each and had the ancient council suck them up and turn them into their horsemen, not the actual horsemen of the apocalypse but more the bouncers at the ancients exclusive only night club.
Don't believe me on that, go play the games and read the comics.
+Youngerhampster It's also funny since pestilence isn't an actual horseman. Conquest was.
+Oatmeal Conquest? seems kind of redundant if one of them is already called war
Oatmeal Why is this marked as spam?
I use these videos to decide which forgotten steam sale game sitting in my "uninstalled" list to play next. I was very pleasantly surprised with Darksiders 2. Really not many games like it outside of God of War/Bayonetta, which isn't a bad thing at all.
I actually can see Death having some affection for his brothers, sister, and others. He has this sort of Sardonic sense of humor throughout the game. Plus he sounds more like a witty British person with a dry throat rather than an angst lawn mower so that's more room for emotion. Also I'm pretty sure he had a thing for the Busty Irish Giant with Voluminous Red-hair.
HOLY SHIT I JUST REALISED, MANKIND COLLAPSED AND WAR WAS BLAMED
Did you just not play the first game?
@@dominicesquivel3901 I think he meant that he had just gotten the symbolic reference.
"its not padded, it's fractally padded!"
I want some gold plated marijuana trousers
Jay Boogie I'd just settle for the marijuana thank you very much :v
amal ben "Oohhhh look at me I think marijuana is bad meh meh meh" Go fuck yourself I'll smoke drink and eat whatever I want you aint my wife to have opinion on my shit
Sorry XD
+FDVlogger Marijuana isn't bad per say, it's just that he loves insulting people's things they like. Much like I do, twat.
+Jaraxxus Krakthang VII ok, so do I fuckface! Isn't it great to find like-minded people on the internet? :D
As someone who played Darksiders 2 I think it is less affection that drivs Death than rather survivor's guilt since (SPOILER ALART) he and the rest of the four horsemen bloody murdered every last person of their entire race just because they were told to.
Fuck, thats some spec ops the line shit.
Nah, still a form of affection, he's the eldest of the 4, and they were tasked with killing the nephilim since they were offsetting the balance,
war was wrongfully accused since it was abbadon who destroyed 6 of the 7 seals in an attempt to defeat hell without starting the apocalypse, seventh seal wasn't meant to be broken till the third kingdom could stand their own in the battle
It’s barely a spoiler; it’s revealed in the opening narration.
So you are telling me a primordial force of nature who's sole purpose for existing is to kill everyone in the world would feel bad about killing everyone in the world a little bit early? Why wouldn't he be ecstatic?
@@VertSecretStash In Darksiders, teh four Horesemen are NOT primordial forces, they are sentient beings more or less forced into the role due to a contract and a belief in teh balance of things.
I just realized watching this that how he described the story of this game also describes Bioshock pretty well. You have one big goal and about 97 locked doors between you and that one goal. There really should be a word for that type of story
I personally just love the extremely fluid and fun as hell combat, amazing art design, and the incredible soundtrack.
I 100% agree
I started playing a few days ago, and those are certainly the things I like more than the first one, or rather the only things.
Although, while combat seems more fluid, the takedown animations are a visual mess. But I do have to give a hate tip to the movement options, the game may overuse them a bit, they are fluid and really fun.
"It's not just padded, it's fractally padded!" Couldn't keep from laughing hahaha
3:48 You have at least two more fingers on each hand, to press both shoulder and trigger.
I tried. Broke two.
wait pressing LT and LB is hard? just use your middle and index fingers
BatWayne Yeah but typically you use your index finger for both. Using the middle for the trigger and index for the bumper requires forethought and the pre-existing knowledge that you need to press both buttons, and you are unlikely to have that knowledge as events in video games tend to be spontaneous.
lxjoe96 oh I guess i've always used both fingers
BatWayne Yeah you're apparently not alone. I can't imagine it, personally. Seems really awkward.
lxjoe96 I'm not sure why, but yeah, I only ever use my index finger on both buttons, as well. And I suspect we're in the majority here. It seems like most games tend to design their control layout around that idea, as most games seldom have you using the shoulder buttons frequently, and when you do, it's rarely simultaneous to using the triggers.
I always use my middle finger for the triggers. Didn't know other people didn't.
Anthropomorphic personification at the end made me happy...mostly because I really like those words.
It made me happy too! Except mostly because I think it was a reference to Terry Pratchett's Discworld Death.
Synophmn
My favorite book series. I have never found a series quite like it, Nor an author like Terry Pratchett.
That Mothra joke was some next level stuff. How does he come up with these crazy metaphors?
I enjoyed Darksiders 1 and I was enjoying Darksiders 2 until I got stuck somewhere. It's been two years since I played it so I don't remember exactly how far I made it.
Darksiders 2 is one of those games where i wish there was quick time events. (Awaits hate mail) but when fighting a boss, you don't even get the final hit, it goes into a cutscene where death kills the boss, requiring absolutely no input from the player. If they did it God of War style, and allow us an epic kill scene with even the minimalist input (quick time events) Beating a boss would have felt so much more rewarding! Aside from that, and the insanely convoluted universe, and the fact that death is doing all this stuff for people when he can just say "Show me where to go or i'll end you..." I think its a pretty good game, using stylish beat em up game play similar to Devil May Cry and God of War, and simple world exploration in the vein of Fable.
Yes, both Darksiders II and Darksiders could really have benefited from God Of War style QTEs, preferably with button prompts appearing on the same side of the screen as the button on the controller, that was a nice touch.
Ehh, haven't they qtes for certain parts of bosses, like the bat bitch when she is ramming you ?
William Death Esq. and Ted Theo-war Logan's Excellent adventure....
"Be violent to one another!"
"Murder on, dudes!"
I can barely breathe.
"Are you a hunter?"
"I LIKE TO THINK I AM A PICKER-UP OF UNCONSIDERED TRIFLES."
Way to ruin the best Horseman, guys.
And now we're getting Darksiders 3: You're An Angry Lady This Time
Phrases like 'thalidomide baby' are a lovely way to smack me upside the head with awesome. It's so nice to listen to someone rant intelligently about something once in a while. It makes me feel like I'm learning something rather than just feeding off the steady stream of rage like a leech who has found a tasty leg to snack from.
Darksiders 2 is my favorite game of all time but this video was some fun constructive criticism toward it.
3:15 I blame Nintendo for popularizing the "3 of thomething" mechanic. It's still really annoying lol, but they used to for everything - 3 items, 3 boss soft underbelly smacking sessions, 3 tiers of level ups for items, etc. LoZ was 3 all the time forever - it was kinda weird...
Death was going on the journey because something was up, and thus unjustified. And Death likes Justice. Helping War was just a helpful side-effect.
I like this game...mostly. My largest complaint is that after the Shadow of the Colossus type battle against the Guardian (I think that's what it was, it's been a while since I played it) with the epic music and sense of smallness compared to the boss, the final boss was kind of a letdown. Also, there is, evidently, a book or novel of some sort that goes along with the Darksiders franchise which explains some of what the Horsemen(and Woman) are all about.
It's a series of comic books by Joe Madureira, the creative director of the games.
Ryan Ramage
Replace "creative" with "cliche" then it sounds just about right.
Um might wanna recheck the story Yahtzee.
He is Death itself the Horsemen just don't have their God-like powers till the 7th seal is broken.
He stated he could barely pay attention to the story in the review
+Ethan Stansmore which he should have as he is a reviewer
Luka lomidze Critic there's a difference
David Stoddart yea thats true
for the love of god, I don't want another reviewer, there are tons of them already. Just want to laugh for a while, Yahtzee is awesome
I fucking love English and Australian reviewers.
two words auzzie gamer
Dragon
If only he'd still make videos :D
WhaoIfeelgood
He does once a week
got to love the douglas adams ref there at the end
That closing line is perfect!
thank god i for some reason have EVERY ESCAPIST MAGAZINE VIDEO IN MY SUB BOX!!!
the reason death wasnt over powered because the seals wernt broken so he wasnt at full power
That and his mission wasn't sanctioned by the Charred Council
Too many fucking strings.
Yep...Bible bureaucratic fan-fiction. That is Darksiders in a nutshell
Chris Mckain so fucking true
Also cause he’s too strong so they had to toned him down, seriously
One of the three magical maguffins was my clock.
About fucking time TheEscapistMagazine uploaded all the ZP videos to date.
Why can't I stop watching these?!?!!
I hope they make another one of these. Love these games.
*Complains that games don't make much of their own stories and characters in other videos.
*Complains that these characters aren't 100% like the other 4 horsemen.
Well fuck yahtzee, that's not really good of ya innit.
Either way, Vigil studios (The creators of the Darksiders franchise) went bankrupt unfortunately so we didn't get the other 2 Horsemen games + the chance of a 4 player co-op game so the story never really got finished. I for one really enjoyed this game, and fuck man, even if it is just a plastered remake of something that was done 14 years ago, it's still fun,
I think he's more saying that games should come up with 100% original chracters and stories, not take a very well known story/chracter and then figuritvely rape it until it resembles something not entirely like the original. If you're going to take from some kind of biblical story that's been around for hundreds of years at least do it right.
He's Yahtzee, it's his job to dump and dislike. I always come to his videos for the cons of a game and the laughs. Then I go to gamespot/ign for the pros and such. Then I view gameplays/walkthroughs with use of pro/con knowledge I now have and formulate a proper choice of "to buy, to borrow/rent, or to ignore." Seems like a pretty failsafe formula.
This game was (still is) awesome. Just finished reading the graphic novel (unrelated to the game story line). I couldn't put it down.
an apocalypse, with Jam in it? count me sold!
I like this game...
OutLawOwl no, he's a comedian, if he was a critic i'd expect him to not lie about the games he's playing and his experiences in them because on quite a few videos now I've seen contradictory statements and somethings that've seemed like complete lies because I've played those games.
example: bioshock 2, he said he never understand why the big sisters would fight even if you were freeing the little sisters and not harvesting them. well the game kinda explains this with your first fight being against a big sister. they wants to kill you, they are loyal to their "mother" who also wants you dead. you're taking away the valuable adam that the have and gather, etc. etc. etc. form cutscenes to themes to gameplay itself the game has woven this point and yet he makes this joke about there being no coherent reason why he had to fight the big sisters. this means he's really thick, had forgotten everything related to the plot, had forgotten important game mechanics, and/or just didn't pay attention to anything obvious.
this to me means that he is not only willing to but will lie about games in order to make these jokes. he's not a real game critic, he's more of a comedian. don't believe me? i've got many more examples form games I've played where he has shown inconsistencies with what happens in the game.
also, dont talk down to someone for having an opinion, its a really pathetic. he likes the game? good for him, you don't? too bad. its not an opinion of how great or bad the game is, just a simple, "i liked it"
OutLawOwl if you're going to criticize an experience you didn't have then you're a liar. its as simple as that.
Q: how was dating mary sue?
A: HORRIBLE, she kills people
^ but if you never dated her then you're lying.
how was hawaii? its amazing, i loved the whole trip. but if you never went then you're lying…
if you want examples i have plenty, yahtzee will lie again and again. I've already given you one instance.
OutLawOwl well i played bioshock 2 and beat it in 2 days. i remember most of it.
however I'm not arguing whether or not he enjoyed it, I'm arguing that he's lying about the game. not his opinion, his lies.
why is a critic lying about his critiques?
OutLawOwl lies aren't exaggerations, lies are false statements. the entertainment value is listening to someone shit talk about it the games industry
elgatochurro
he's not lying man, you sound stupid him saying "he never understood" something and the game giving a reason, doesn't mean the reason has to be understood, your looking at it from a "oh man the lore this the lore that" viewpoint he's looking at it from a video game development point, why the hell did the writers make it that way... he doesn't understand why they wouldn't go in a more sensible direction, and he's pointing that out, you calling him thick headed is INCREDIBLY Ironic.
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypses, are supposed to be called Conquest, War, Famine and Death.
No... Conquest, Famine, Death, and Pestilence.
LostRequiem777 Nah man google it, it's a warrior bent on conquest.
The interpretation of him as pestilence is just one of many and the most popular in pop culture.
LostRequiem777
no its Death, Randolf, Johnny, and bob from down the street.
Conquest is oftentimes referred to as Pestilence because of confusion between it and War. Conquest and War are two parts of the same scenario. War goes in guns blazing, and Conquest reaps the spoils. Or better example: War is WW2, Conquest is Wolfenstein. Pestilence makes a tad more sense since it involves disease, as destruction is a trademark of War. Death rules the final half of all; famine, pestilence and war all tie in and cause death.
Psythr666
The other reason for Pestilence is because of the end quote "Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill(Death the Pale horsemen) with sword(War The Red horsemen and definitely War cause he uses a sword) and with famine(Famine the Black horsemen) and with pestilence(???) and by the wild beasts of the earth."
Basically the White horsemen is often put in pestilence because the other three fit so well into the others but obviously on a white horse with a crown he doesn't fit well into any some even think he represents the gospel and his thing is conquering so in lames terms no one really knows what he is exactly as the other three are doing all the heavy lifting really.
Since it's so out there you even have the wild beasts killing part could even be that Death is pestilence and the White horsemen is the one commanding wild beasts of all the horsemen you can kinda make him to be whatever you want.
It’s funny how he mention Brandon lee because the voice actor of Death in Darksiders 2 also happens to be the one who plays the bad guy in the Crow, Brandon’s last film.
A game where you play as the personification of death not being challenging? I can think of all kinds of games that would be near-impossible if all passers by died of catastrophic heart failure.
Lovely Disc World reference at the end there. Dodged any falling objects recently, being the anthropomorphic personification of critics, and all that?
I've gone through nearly every one of his reviews now, so how did this one slip me buy for so long?!
How come I only just found these reviews 😂
I was about to complain about this video being in 240p then I noticed how long ago it was posted
@TheCCPfearsANZ I did not know that
I could think of a game where you play as the personification of death. It wouldn't be a straight up action game that's for certain but imagining it being played out a bit like Hitman + the Sims.
The player receives his daily quota of the people that are supposed to die and given an alterable environment to engineer the circumstances; speeding up traffic, leaving the gas main on, giving the depressed office worker a shotgun like you're winding up the key on a toy solider, etc. The more creative, and elaborate you make the death sequence, the higher your score. You also get just a kind of "screw this" button where death plops down and reaps the poor soul on the spot, but you only have a finite number of those and it doesn't award additional points.
Say what you want about this game, but Michael Wincott's voice as Death gave me eargasms everytime I heard it (and I'm a straight male BTW)
Death's name when posing as a mortal in the Discworld series: Bill.
Yahtzee calls Death: William. 1:00
Yahtzee, are you a Terry Pratchett fan? Because I for one would not be surprised.
I always appreciate a good "thalidomide baby" joke.
The Image comic thing fits due to the character designer being Joe Madureira of Battle Chasers fame & some pencilling work on the Uncanny X-men.
He mentioned the Isle of Wight! I'm from the Isle of Wight!
I can now die a happy man.
I wish the third game had been made before Vigil games went under. I really enjoyed this series.
Didn't Nordic Games grab the license and are actually tossing around ideas for a Strife and/or Fury game while maintaining contact with the Darksiders fanbase?
FrostBandanaDude
yeah but still the game will probably take another 3 yeahrs to get anywhere near the consumer
bagrym So what, at least there is a good chance that it'll be made.
lets hope so, sure loved thq and the games
Lokiraak You've given me hope
I'd like to play a game where you START as death, but then you do something wrong or whatever, and you get stripped of your powers whilst some other random guy becomes the personification of death. You then have to try and get your job back
+Michael Who Isn't that the plot of Reaper Man? ;)
Is that a Simpsons episode ?
the grim adventures did that story line lol
That's the plot of God of war
That's basically the plot of darksiders one
I dont know I always thought the dour horse men of the apocalypse would be buddy-buddy
legend of war/god of zelda
either way i still kinda had fun when i picked this up for $7 lol
This was the first video game I played on my Xbox 360... so i will say with a load of bias that this is one of my favorite games ever
nice reference to Death Note with the heart attack
"It's not just padded: It's FRACTALLY PADDED!" Chaos theory reference in a video game review; this is why I like this guy.
I really want to show a screencap of the last image in the review to someone who has no idea what this video is about and get them to try and come up with a likely explanation for it.
Can't wait to see him review Darksides 3...
These reviews are killing!
After seeing this review several times, I've only just now noticed that as Yahtzee says "Higher arcane crit chance," the text reads "ARCANE CLIT PANTS"
I'm curious now, if pestilence and famine were in the game what would their weapons be?
So I wrote an original book about the 4 horsemen and now War and Death are related to each other and they have emotions.
You're not the only one who switched on Reaper Form when you trying to select something else. My case, I was trying to select Redemption(the gun).
I never had that problem because my quick heal was on the left d-pad button. Far away from the attack buttons
Holy shit, someone from outside the Isle of Wight actually just acknowledged the existence of the Isle of Wight.
The only way this bloody Island could get further under the public radar is for it to physically fucking sink.
YES!!! I thought it was only me when I noticed everything in threes!
"set fire to a thalidomite baby" omg, that is so fucking heartless and funny :D
watched the other one right before this....still painting my 40k army...
the combos were a little tricky, but not so bad that you couldn't get used to it. I always hate when there are so many button combos that you accidentally heal yourself or whatever when you didn't mean to
I have wondered that so many times myself.
3:22 Just like the line at Subway last night.
0:48 pestilence isn't actually a real horseman, conquest is the one but is not often used
***** k
+Star The Mighty One! In King James it's written that the first horseman rides out like a conqueror, and he has a bow. This could mean conquest but arrows were common symbolism for disease for so long that Pestilence is more likely.
How can you take King James' bible as an ultimate authority on anything, when it is a translation of the original work into another language?
Just to clarify, the horsemen are Conquest, War, Famine, and Death. Conquest is often replaced with Pestilence in most modern culture though, mostly because he'd otherwise seem redundant with War.
What does Conquest do? Do he take credit when War wins all the battles? XD
Yes, and he always steals the girl he's with, and drinks the last beer, and one time he took War's school science project and presented it as his own in the science fair. He's a jerk, really.
Ethan Stansmore
Oh, but on the off chance you wanted to know what he actually does, he does the same thing as the other horsemen; he opens a seal.
i love both this video and the game
Hah! Joke's on you, Yahtzee, I hold my controller using the Claw technique.
The thing about it is, for the first while of DarkSiders II, I started to fall in love. Yeah, enemy variety was lacking a bit, but I figured like most games it would pick up later on.
However there was the introduction of a certain "Corrupted Custodian" where the game began to fall apart for me. I've never had my love for a game die so quickly. The boss itself is a perfect example as to why it only takes one move for a boss to be ruined in design, and the fact that after that the game started having terribly offensive glitches: Entire sections of the area not loading in, falling through the world, game freezing when loading symbols popped up, and most of all (because I was playing on Apocalyptic) the difficulty spikes were outrageous. I wanted to love the game, and I haven't finished it, but the entire Kingdom Of The Dead section has made me almost resent the game
i agree with you on the portal thing
What does strife have do with anxiety disorders?
1:00 -- William Death Esquire... You mean, "Bill Kill"? :)
He also held on to the souls of the Nephalim after he killed them, so he must have some compassion. I definitely got a stronger sense of his character than War, who seemed more content to just kill everyone
5:08
Widower: Oh, it's you! ...I suppose it's time then for poor Margret.
5:12
Widower: Actually, I've always been curious, Reaper: What exactly is the process of reaping and ferrying souls? What does it look like?
5:16
Death: ...
5:20
Widower: GET BACK HERE!!
I remember this game aswell as 1, thought they were both pretty great.
1:45 That pretty much sums it up
It always felt weird that the other two are called fury and strife, mainly cause war seems to be a cause of those two.
That act was a sort of act of love in and of itself... War was a little bit hot-blooded at the time, and Death did it to get him to realize his own limits.
Could it be that yatzee only has to fingers on his left hand? I'm just asking. As a pc gamer I usualy don't have the problem of inexcesable shoulder buttons but when I use a controler I can in fact press L2 with my middle finger and then use my index finger to press L1.
Just sain.
It's actually famine that is sometimes called pestilence, also conquest is sometimes called victory.
he doesn't dislike it he just shows points that everyone misses all the time
Yahtzee said in an interview once that he google searched expressionless face, found someones coursework or something of the artists friends and family having emotionless faces, yahtzee said that guys was the only one that truly had no emotion or expression so he uses it whenever he wants to relate something to emotionless boredom or blandness. Or he did originally, nowadays he just shows up in pretty much every ZP somewhere.
"Anthropomorphic Personification " I see what you did there.
Even though I love Darksiders 1 and 2, Yahtzee is so spot on it cracks me up =P
When it comes Yahtzee reviewing a game that I love and saying it sucks, it becomes less a matter of "I agree with that statement" and more of just "I can see why he feels that way."
The two things that got me through this game was the amazing, fluid combat, and the beautiful soundtrack.
4:23 BEST PART OF VIDEO
I have to wonder at this point how Yahtzee holds his controllers.
I've always assumed it's a given that you press the lower shoulder buttons with your middle fingers, and the upper ones with your index fingers.
Yet he seems to shift his other hand over to press the upper shoulder buttons.
I generally sit my index fingers on the lower triggers and then roll them upwards to hit the shoulder buttons. Works well for me.
I tend to keep my index fingers on the triggers, then move them up to hit the bumpers. If you're used to doing that, then yeah, the targeting style used in Darksiders is pretty unwieldy, but it's not too hard to adjust.
I do that unless it's a particularly intense game, then I use thumbs for the joy sticks, my right index finger for the x/y/a/b, the right middle finger and left index for the shoulder buttons and my right ring finger and left middle for the triggers. It took forever to get used to but you'd be surprised how well it works. (Armored core is what drove me to this length of hand contortion.)
From the future: My biggest disappointment is that "War" got a bunch of gory, dismembering kill animations.. but actual Death spends most of his time fighting skeletons with none of the meatyness. You give me dual scythes and a giant hammer/axe and the enemies just fall apart instead of being eviscerated? What kind of c*cktease is that?