“I hate other people. Kill them all! Ooh! Some tits! Let’s take a quick break from senseless violence to play with them,” sounds like Yahtzee in a nutshell so I agree.
Felt weird that at multiple times in this video Yahtzee brought up "saving for DLC" when it felt pretty clear what we were saving stuff for is for the sequel
@@extremetoast5723 this is literally how stories have been told forever. I feel like it’s grossly unfair to be mad at this game for setting up the second half of its story lol. Like it’s pretty clear that there’s a larger story to be told than one that can fit in a single game.
@@toastydeadfrogs453 I'm not mad at the game - I'm pointing out that the game saving content for DLC or a sequel doesn't void the criticism - that criticism being that the story of the game feels incomplete.
Antichrist2000 ps5 will be out in two years in 2020, so the next god of war will likely be out between 2021-2023. think you confused what I was saying.
I’d like to say how much I appreciate Yahtzee’s description of the weapons were. I’d seen his review, but didn’t get a chance to play the game until recently. Was very excited when they revealed the second weapon halfway through the game.
I just picture it as Kratos just getting old and tired of just about everything. Most he ever wanted to do was just relax in the woods like a disgruntled lumberjack. Then the norse gods come knocking and all he can do is just give a great and heavy sigh
i cant picture someone killing everything and everyone for 3 games straight, then becoming "old and tired". you ever heard of a rockstar not dying of a drug overdose but instead making country music in their old age? i havent
Notice how Yahtzee gave Kratos a fire *gun* because he didn't want to spoil what the fire weapon was. Your first thought when giving a character with an axe anothet weapon would typically be a sword, right? But Yahtzee considerately avoids doing so to spare the plot point and respect the spoilers. Class act, Yahtzee.
Similar thing happened to max Payne series when Max Payne 3 came out. Now after seeing shadow of mordor 2 DLC trailer.."games losing their identity"sentence just hits harder
I just realized that Bayonetta might be one of the last major and true hack-n-slash games out there. DMC might not get another game and GOW is now a Dead Space-esque Dad and child adventure game. It's a little sad to think about. =/
dope malone You just reminded me that there is still Dynasty Warriors, so there might be two left. I think the new GOW would make a good adventure game series. Still wouldn't call it a hack-n-slash though. Maybe the next the sequel, but not this one. =/
I'm shocked Yahtzee hasn't had a line something like "the camera is so attached to his backside it's like it was on a buttplug-controlled selfie stick; or as I'm calling the entire grotesque idea from now on the Smellfie-stick method of cinematography."
Jack Grayson and you remember how that last family went right? Yeah sorry I don't see another family happening after you MURDERED your last one, regardless of Ares' mind control or whatever
Well, that's not really his point. He thinks that Kratos before the reboot is more interesting because that version kicks ass. You can have a humanized Kratos without going for the "responsible adult" angle. After all, that comment about God of War III was made in comparison to the first game, which had a Kratos that was still angry and childish, but also had a clear motivation, which helped to somewhat humanize him. p.s.: I don't necessarily agree with him, I just don't like the way you misconstrued his opinions.
I love how when Caddicarus makes criticism towards god of war 4, he gets angry people calling him a nutter, or whatever insults British people hurl at each other. However when Yahtzee makes exactly the same criticisms towards the game, people are always talking about how funny his review is and don't seem obligated to call his opinion dumb. I love how inconsistent the internet is.
Never watched Caddicarus but different audiences garner different reaction and the way the reviewer's general attitude also influences people, not to mention their actual delivery of their opinion. Yahtzee is usually amusing so people will take more criticisms before exploding but you're right he does have quite a few people bouncing on his schlong
A 24-minute serious review from some guy who's self-absorbed enough to make a 24-minute serious review vs a five minutes review from a comedy writer/producer whose entire schtick, and indeed job established over a decade ago, is to be irreverent and critical about even the most excellent games. Croshaw's product is comedy, Caddicarus' product is talking about games, and I've never been on board with people having an actual career based on that. Croshaw is an exception because he could be pointing out the flaws in basically anything and still be funny, whereas Caddicarus would be unlikely to draw attention doing the same thing. He's just... another one of those games reviewers. So I guess that's why. Also, "nutter" is for cunts. True Brits prefer insults like "spoon", "radish", "fucknut", "absolute hedge" and "roaster", you roaster
Wow, Yahtzee's voice sure changed between God of War 3 and God of War (2018). In the former he sounds like a caring uncle telling his nephew funny jokes as he get's excited to work in stand-up comedy, and in the latter he sounds like a sarcastic, depraved, British accountant who hates his job. And it's awesome
The bosses were definitely the weakest part of God of War. To go from epic battles against Zeus and Poseidon to fighting B-tier Norse gods is a bit of step down.
It is a rare occasion that I disagree with zero punctuation and this is one of them. Maybe I'm just easier to please but I am having a blast with this game.
@@ethai1 well under the mayo did but since his initial review was more recounting his first impressions than a structured deep dive the community despises him Also he has a different game philosophy to the game and despises the current crop of cinematic games (and god I hate them too)
Another annoyance is when head just doesn’t interact with you because you truck through the story with only a couple side quests because the game just assumes you haven’t yet Other examples include the bones quest where Atreus acts like a brat from the start despite his mild maturity or the constant references to people killing their furthers and Atreus just not remembering that kratos also did it and explained it 20 minutes earlier
I’m on the opposite side of the spectrum of Yahtzee. I like the new Kratos, story, and combat and got bored of the old games cuz it was, well, predictable. Anger, murder, betrayal, more murder. Granted I suppose I missed the point of the old games since that was their thing. Anger and gore. I usually hold my anger and gore boner for the goofy shit like Far Cry 5 where you can spear people with a shovel and sick a bear on them.
Grabnok The Destroyer I agree. And I also felt that it makes sense as a character arc that after years of senseless slaughter and impassioned revenge, Kratos was fucking tired of it and wanted to live a peaceful life. Anyone would get tired of that and want to settle down. It was a reasonable and understandable evolution that makes him more relatable.
"The Last of Us, that I still say is overrated." Thank you! It's a fine game, but damn if people don't act like that game is the second coming of Christ.
Late comment but, yeah, i liked the story very much but the gameplay was kinda meh, i understand that mushroom heads can survive one bullet to the head but the regular ones do to? Yeah, that's kinda dumb
cnwarry Mushroom heads do, regular ones don’t. Maybe you were hitting their necks? I found the story to be amazing and the gameplay was solid stealth, strategic shooter depending on your play style and difficulty.
I think the close camera is a tradeoff to allow for the type of graphics the game has. If you could pull the camera further back, there would be more to render. It works ok for the most part in God of War 4 EXCEPT when you are surrounded by enemies and you physically can't see them. Its especially frustrating when you take on the optional challenges of completing fights without taking any damage.
about the camera: the funny thing about it is that there are 2 cuts over the whole game... you never leave kratos' bum for 15+ hours of gameplay with a ton of cutscenes (well, you do leave his bum, but not too quickly) also: dlc? they were very obviously going for a sequel (ok, i know, hindsight bias and everything, but i already thought that at the time) i like how "the only decapitation is consensual" is actually true
Game is good, but massively overrated. I was absolutely loving it until the end when I realized I wasn't going anywhere interesting after Alfheim and the story wrapped up with the wettest of slap farts.
This and gamingbrit's videos is exactly how I feel about this game. It feels a bit better not being the only lonely voice being told to shut up for not liking this direction for the series.
Even though I loved GOW4, I totally accept Yahtzee’s criticisms of it. I refuse to join the chorus of mindless yeasayers who shout down unpopular opinions, since I’m someone who thinks the Souls games are shit, and received a lot of flak myself for that opinion.
@@jamesmaysflyingwashingmach7459 well, even though you are entitled to your opinions, if you go around saying that Souls games are shit I kinda understand getting a lot of flak from that tbh. I see no harm in unpopular opinions if you can support that with fair criticism though.
While everyone else is licking this game's taint like it's a gift from god I've been patiently waiting for Yahzee's review. TY for bringing us back down to Earth a bit
I'm still surprised people forget that nothing really happened in the first God Of War. Everything cool happened in the second and third game. So why are you expecting to kill Odin or Thor in the first game. Zeus didn't appear either in God Of War only a glowing face and as a gravedigger. And Yathzee thinks there is going to be DLC hahahah how funny all of that is for the sequel.
James Killjoy you really need to learn to read comments. You only fight against Ares and the hydra there is no other huge boss fight like in GOW 2 and GOW 3. But Yathzee acts like he should've killed Thor in the first game. Even of he already killed both his sons Magni and Modri.
+Juan Jaramillo In God of War 1 you save Athens and kill Ares, completing both Kratos' personal vendetta against the God of War and his redemption quest for the Olympian Gods in the process. Everything in that game was building up to the resolution of that conflict and Ares as an antagonist was a rogue-god serving his own interests. Honestly, with the exception of God of War 2 and 3, all the games in the franchise so far have focused on telling a selfcontained stories first and foremost, barely hinting at a larger overarching narrative of brooding conflicts between Kratos and entities he is working for here and there. In this new God of War it's obvious from the start, that the game's main antagonist Baldur is nothing but a middle-man, with game constantly reminding us how Odin and Thor are the true villains and sources of conflict behind him and the cliffhanger at the very end only serves the purpose of further rubbing it in our faces how badly the actual conflict of the story is left unresolved by the end. Also you forgot Pandora's Guardian and Medusa were also boss-battles in the first game, even if the latter was more of a mini-boss type of deal. Granted, it doesn't really take anything away from your point, but just thought I'd mention it.
God of War 1 NEVER built up the other gods as villains. Ares was your one goal and that's it. That changed with 2. This new game builds up villains who are clearly obstacles Kratos and Atreus will have to overcome and they never even appear. At the very least the gods in 1 had their heads show up and talk
Sure the combat trees are filled with maybe-useful options... but I can ignore that, like you did, and end up witg a close approximation of Dark Souls combat so... that suits me just fine. Sometimes I accidentally do a combo I unlocked and that can be a fun surprise... "huh that was a neat move... wonder what upgrade that was... AH WELL... back to block, dodge and attack."
Gotta agree with Yahtzee: after watching the Magni/Modi fight and witnessing the REALLY lackluster way in which Kratos finishes it off just made me realize how bland they had made him. If this is what we can expect for the future of the hack and slash violence, I'm out. Just imagine that kind of thing passing for Mortal Kombat finishers, people would lose their fucking tits over it.
My primary issue with the game having played the previous installments was the cutscenes. There a numerous long cutscenes in the game where Kratos is fighting people that are framed perfectly for the player to be mashing buttons like in the old games, but instead there are no prompts and you just kind of watch it happen. I'm not saying QTEs are great gameplay, but their addition in the more cinematic fights at least gave you the feeling of some input. I understand that bright glowing "PRESS TRIANGLE TO TEAR OFF HELIOS' HEAD!!" wouldn't be appropriate for the tone this game's trying to set, but being able to literally just set the controller down while Kratos flies through the air punching a dude leaves me feeling detached from what should be the most memorable parts of the game. Also, I liked the combat. You don't do as much crazy stuff as you used to, but the axe feels very weighty and satisfying to kill things with, and I don't think the over abundance of options is a bad thing. Very quickly I was so flooded with xp I just bought every upgrade, and sort of discovered them by experimenting in combat. It'd be worse if xp was really hard to come by and you had to choose upgrades wisely, but you really don't.
Barlog has said he'd rather just take a break and then get started on the sequel than do any DLC. He talked about how in Tyr's travel palace he decided to have the words "Odin locked this off: YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS" so that players knew he wasn't trying to parcel out the game in DLC, but also had to acknowledge the other realms' existence.
While I agree that the story could have been better written, and that the open world busywork tends to bog it down more than enhance it, the thought of a maturer, less intentionally violent Kratos is an interesting idea to explore. If we're going to get continuations of stories that we thought to have ended over a decade ago, then the characters in those stories should mature and change in meaningful ways. And Kratos doing literally everything he can in order to save his son from living the same life he led as a god is definitely a meaningful and drastic change to his character. It's also one that could have been better executed.
He was older and debatably wiser, but I wouldn't say more mature (the story isn't really any deeper than GoW1's). Most of what Kratos does in the game isn't too different from what he's done in the original series. I mean, interacting with children, daughter and surrogate daughter included, in a bunch of ways is something we've seen a few times as well.
It's funny about the close-in RE4-style camera as one of Yahtzee's friends pointed out when he did the post-ZP stream of God of Phwoar, that it was clearly chosen since it would be easier to render the beautiful environments that would be requisite to sell people on buying a PS4 than the traditional zoomed-out camera seen in previous games in the series (and in the games that a decade ago were trying to imitate GoW's style).
Having finished the game recently, I have to agree with Yahtzee with nothing much of consequence happening by the end. I'm sure we'll fight more baddies in the sequels, but the only real threat in the game was the one guy and his twin nephews that you encounter for a bit. I dunno, the story was good but it didn't really blow me anyway or anything, contrary to what a lot of people seem to think about it.
I think the main issue with the “constant violence” theme of God of War was that it could only be done so many times before it lost all meaning behind it, and it just became violent for the sake of violence
I find it rather funny how in your latest audiobook you sound angrier than in any ZP video. Or is that how you sound normally and you do a "friendly" voice for youtube?
God this game had so much potential, give us at least another god to fight against, do something with that giant owl thing in Helheim, do something with Zues in Helheim. With how much they were banging on about the tortures of Heliem i was thinking you'd have to fight a projection of Zeus as younger Kratos or something
4:45, the most terrifying one of the Imps has every been to me. Seriously, that too wide toothy grin, the proportionally obscene stiffy and you have the most terrifying thing ever concocted by Yahtzee for ZP.
On the whole lack of gods killing thing, it's kind of like when you go on a weekend binge. You need some time to just let the hangover pass before you do it all over again.
I played through all of Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny, and am in the middle of Deadfire at the moment, and I can say with certainty that a large majority of the combat information in my log I just end up glossing over. All the 8 damage types and determining which one I should technically be using is not at all simplistic, and that's not even factoring in the large amount of different spell effects. And that's just combat. There's no way this dude wants to read the dense narrative in these games, even if there is more voice acting than before.
You're not the only one who has played them. I didn't even skip through the text , read everything because the writing was immersive. The combat log is only there for occasional viewing for accessing the situation better , the combat system is definitely amazing and deep but it can be skipped by playing on easy or storyteller difficulty. This time the combat is more streamlined , more balanced and the game is fully voiced so... If not a 100% , there is a worthwhile chance of him liking it a lot. There's also the fact that he has never played any rich CRPG before. Maybe it'll take him by surprise?
Um, well, mentioning that I played Obsidian's other RPGs in no way implies that other people haven't. I mostly mentioned that to clarify that I enjoy their games. What I was getting at is even after playing 3 of their games, there are still aspects of optimizing damage that I still don't fully utilize because of the variety of different damage types and other mechanics that affect that. Yahtzee complained in this very video that God of War has complicated attacks that he's never going to bother using. A CRPG is literally all about that.
Of all the characters to get this sort of "responsible dad" makeover, Kratos is the one that I buy the least. His entire existence in the Greek God of War games was defined by his excessive violence and rage, to the point that, at the end of God of War 3, he punched Zeus so many times that Zeus' blood completely obscured his vision, then killed himself with a very big sword just to spite the ghost of Athena (still not sure how he got over that). And then next time we see him, he's...not going ballistic over the death of his wife. Which is just a startling shift in personality for a guy whose announced motivation in the Greek games was...the death of his wife and child.
The beginning of the game really intrigued me. Since it started out so small with just carrying a tree, seeing the scope widen to encompass multiple realms really drew me in. I wanted to explore, and see everything.
There should be a list of male video game characters with unruly beards and standoffish personalities. Rico Rodriguez from Just Cause 3 Kratos from God of War 2018 Max Payne from Max Payne 3 Joel from The Last of Us And that's all I can think of for now.
Arthur (if you play him that way) - RDR2 Geralt (kind of) - The Witcher 3 Big Boss - MGS5 Sam Porter - Death Stranding Main character in the Modern Warfare reboot Marcus Phoenix - Gears 4 Hank - Detroit Become Human Sebastian - The Evil Within 2
The combat feels uniquely weighted and has immensely satisfying impact. I agree that the camera could have been pulled back but other than that, it was a new benchmark for feel.
I loved the original GoW games. Played all of them except Chains of Olympus. Although I am a PC player, I was so excited for the new GoW that I bought a PS4 just to play it. I made sure to replay all of the originals beforehand, and had a blast, again. And then... I got to this one... and see everything that I knew and loved destroyed. I don't think I played it for more than a couple of hours. Such a pity.
Maybe you should have looked at gameplay previews or trailers before you decided to pay for it. Also, the game gets a lot better, it just starts off slow, particularly the combat, and *spoilers* but the axe isn't your only weapon.
Take Kratos’ advice from the start “everything is different boy, try not to dwell on it”. If you keep getting hung up with what they did in the past how can you enjoy what’s new?
@@SPM0717 No it definitely stays slow... The blades are animated kinda horribly compared to OG series, they don't have the same frantic and powerful lashing they once did now that Kratos is more realistically designed and doesn't move as crazily.
4:16 attacks are also not commited, you can cancel them with a parry, which makes combat pretty lackluster imo. Also enemies only have 2 patterns to attack so it's mostly a rythm combat, hit parry hit hit parry, repeat.
I'm probably not the best person to say this because I came here to get my opinion on this game validated, but the comments are entirely the same thing: "Oh no, he didn't like it, well that's ok, I don't have to agree with him all the time" and then proceed to explain why the game is "great" according to you. Do you think you'll actually make him change his opinion? Or did you feel personally attacked and need to defend this game because to you, if someone bashes something you like then they are bashing you?
I didn't play the originals and I like the one-shot presentation and the combat so Ha, I get to keep liking this game even though I agree with your points
I'm sorry but have we played different games? You riff on how Kratos teaches his kid morals and suddenly doesn't want to kill anyone, but he just doesn't want his kid to die. He's teaching his kid how to murder and the first hour of the game shows Kratos finding Atreus incapable of murdering quite efficiently enough. He tells the kid to block out his emotions and don't feel sorry for his enemies. I'm not sure how he's seen the light or whatever, he just wants Atreus to not-die.
Finally someone on the internet that shares my opinion on this game, and it also happens to be my favorite reviewer ever. That _almost_ makes up for having to listen to everybody else praise it all the time.
Is there anyone else? If only I had a moderately popular RUclips channel because I have a LOT to say about this game and what it means for the future of gaming, oh well.
"and the only decapitation is consensual"
That's not a joke. Kratos chops someone's head off because the guy asked him to do it.
yeah but it's not the only one it's the only decapitation that you have to do
To be fair, that guy gets decapitated then revived in the mythology too.
Yeah but that makes it hilarious
“God of War Ragnarok: This time, there’s non-consensual decapitation”
Oh come on, Yahtzee, we all know that Kratos’ “I hate that other things are alive!” attitude means he was very relatable for you.
“I hate other people. Kill them all! Ooh! Some tits! Let’s take a quick break from senseless violence to play with them,” sounds like Yahtzee in a nutshell so I agree.
And now he has a child. Time does funny things.
@@FrozenGoblin Oh, there's a little Yahtzee? How cute!
@@mikshinee87 the kid just turned one this January. I went to look for a name, but on Yahtzee's wikipedia page under children, it just says "Yes".
@@mikshinee87 Yahtzee added a three of a kind to make a full house.
I like that "rip head off and use as flashlight" AND "consensual decapitation" are separate yet equally canon acts by the same person.
As with everything in life, context is very important xD
" If anything's still alive in 30 seconds, I'm gonna get a **real** nark on!!!"
Only Yhatzee could make me want an Australian Kratos...
The Wolverine Origins game basically
@@butterwantschoclate9364 Lived in 'straya for a long while, though, no?
aus?
They could do Australian Kratos exploring Aboriginal mythology
@@butterwantschoclate9364
He's either Australian or lives in Australia
3:30 I love how Yahtzee regularly finds the most unpleasant ways possible to describe certain game mechanics.
Felt weird that at multiple times in this video Yahtzee brought up "saving for DLC" when it felt pretty clear what we were saving stuff for is for the sequel
To be fair if it was made by other companies he would be rigth
I don’t know if this helps things, saving for a DLC pack or saving for another game have the same effect on this game.
@@extremetoast5723 More than saving for the sequel Its they planted the seed for the sequel
@@extremetoast5723 this is literally how stories have been told forever. I feel like it’s grossly unfair to be mad at this game for setting up the second half of its story lol. Like it’s pretty clear that there’s a larger story to be told than one that can fit in a single game.
@@toastydeadfrogs453 I'm not mad at the game - I'm pointing out that the game saving content for DLC or a sequel doesn't void the criticism - that criticism being that the story of the game feels incomplete.
5:11 Looks like I finally got my shoutout
Jokes on you, there is no dlc
But there will be another game in another decade
Even worse, that's all the story they had time to write
@Vox Populi How fucking dare Call of Duty put out a massive effort to release a fully fleshed out shooter every year. Fucked up
@@googlewolly that's such a RUclips comments behaviour to insult me while basically not disagreeing
@@googlewolly If you think the "cash grab" isn't still a massive effort then you're just wrong. Wrong AND obnoxious is a pretty potent combo
Kratos' voice actor has a video where he makes a bunch of dad jokes.
That itself made me like Kratos more than the GoW games
How the hell can you mention it and not drop a link.
ruclips.net/video/PWwvR6cSH4o/видео.html
You’re welcome
Thank you so much 😍 lmao
@@sanddry738 May you be blessed by whatever pantheon isn't dead yet.
0:56 I've been waiting weeks for this couple seconds right here.
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Dad of war
if there's dlc I would be surprised. likely the other areas will be in the sequel that's sure to arrive in 3 to 5 years, likely in on the ps5.
The creator stated there will be no DLC, and he has at least 5 games planned.
Victor Rico my lord, that makes the ending even worse then.
How?
Antichrist2000 ps5 will be out in two years in 2020, so the next god of war will likely be out between 2021-2023. think you confused what I was saying.
+Victor Rico Thats also not true. He said that he has 5 games worth of ideas in his head, he never said anything about having 5 more games planned.
But if they panned the camera back you wouldn't be able to fully appreciate the new bum sweat technology
Baldur never came off as an actual threat, more like that one annoying guy at the bar who got shitfaced and won’t shut up
I’d like to say how much I appreciate Yahtzee’s description of the weapons were. I’d seen his review, but didn’t get a chance to play the game until recently. Was very excited when they revealed the second weapon halfway through the game.
Dad of Boy
Never seen him actually. Always meant to back in the day but never got around to it.
No one expects the Jimquisition
wrong it's Dad of BOI
Thought it was Honest Trailers
Dad of BOI
I'm glad someone looks at God of War with a bit more skepticism than most game reviewers have been. It's strangely refreshing.
"The only decapitation is consensual"
🤣😂🤣
Yes, bless him for coming up with such obvious-as-fuck but nonetheless brilliant comedy.
I just picture it as Kratos just getting old and tired of just about everything. Most he ever wanted to do was just relax in the woods like a disgruntled lumberjack. Then the norse gods come knocking and all he can do is just give a great and heavy sigh
lesslighter its as simple as walking a country over. Its not so much as realms but that they are literally in their own pieces of land in the world
i cant picture someone killing everything and everyone for 3 games straight, then becoming "old and tired". you ever heard of a rockstar not dying of a drug overdose but instead making country music in their old age? i havent
@@speedos Trent Reznor went from depressed, suicidal, drug addict writing Nine Inch Nails to film composor. I'd say that counts.
@@My_Naginta hes an outlier then
But that's boring tho
I suggest that Yahtzee shouldn't knock wearing a skirt until he's tried it - perhaps something nice in Plaid - or one that matches his hat ?
Notice how Yahtzee gave Kratos a fire *gun* because he didn't want to spoil what the fire weapon was. Your first thought when giving a character with an axe anothet weapon would typically be a sword, right? But Yahtzee considerately avoids doing so to spare the plot point and respect the spoilers. Class act, Yahtzee.
OH NO HE KINDA DIDN'T LIKE IT
but that Baldur joke was hysterical
I need some whacka bumps >:3
zatchbells
wack if you must. i will understand.
So true... Baldur is a mommy-issue meth-addict
Can you believe a tweaker sets off Ragnarok, HAH!
@@Fr0mDark2Light "I can't feel ANY of this!"
Similar thing happened to max Payne series when Max Payne 3 came out.
Now after seeing shadow of mordor 2 DLC trailer.."games losing their identity"sentence just hits harder
I just realized that Bayonetta might be one of the last major and true hack-n-slash games out there. DMC might not get another game and GOW is now a Dead Space-esque Dad and child adventure game. It's a little sad to think about. =/
Sashrunner listen dumbass just bc the camera is over the shoulder doesnt mean the game isnt a hack n slash
dope malone You just reminded me that there is still Dynasty Warriors, so there might be two left. I think the new GOW would make a good adventure game series. Still wouldn't call it a hack-n-slash though. Maybe the next the sequel, but not this one. =/
I'm shocked Yahtzee hasn't had a line something like "the camera is so attached to his backside it's like it was on a buttplug-controlled selfie stick; or as I'm calling the entire grotesque idea from now on the Smellfie-stick method of cinematography."
Complains that God of War III has made him too detached from humanity
(Gets more humanity in Kratos) Borrrring
Pillsbury DoughBane
There’s middle line you idiot
Jack Grayson
He should have died by the end of gow3 and if he survived he wouldn’t get married or become father
and died before as well.
Jack Grayson and you remember how that last family went right? Yeah sorry I don't see another family happening after you MURDERED your last one, regardless of Ares' mind control or whatever
Well, that's not really his point. He thinks that Kratos before the reboot is more interesting because that version kicks ass. You can have a humanized Kratos without going for the "responsible adult" angle. After all, that comment about God of War III was made in comparison to the first game, which had a Kratos that was still angry and childish, but also had a clear motivation, which helped to somewhat humanize him.
p.s.: I don't necessarily agree with him, I just don't like the way you misconstrued his opinions.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought the combat was overly complex. Wasn't until the frost giant that I truly got the hang of it all
I've actually counted the amount of times kratos says boi. by my (probably inaccurate) estimates it's 126 give or take 3-4.
mitori someone made a video, and they got up to 147.
Demitrium side quests included?
dope malone angry joe got over 1k
I've read this comment on like five fucking videos. Either you're everywhere or this is turning into copypasta
That's not even that weird why is it a meme, I fucking hate people.
I love how when Caddicarus makes criticism towards god of war 4, he gets angry people calling him a nutter, or whatever insults British people hurl at each other. However when Yahtzee makes exactly the same criticisms towards the game, people are always talking about how funny his review is and don't seem obligated to call his opinion dumb. I love how inconsistent the internet is.
It's cause being negative is Yahtzee's thing so he's not taken as seriously.
I think you missed the point chum.
Mentally underdeveloped people watch Caddicarus. That should explain the issue
Never watched Caddicarus but different audiences garner different reaction and the way the reviewer's general attitude also influences people, not to mention their actual delivery of their opinion. Yahtzee is usually amusing so people will take more criticisms before exploding but you're right he does have quite a few people bouncing on his schlong
A 24-minute serious review from some guy who's self-absorbed enough to make a 24-minute serious review vs a five minutes review from a comedy writer/producer whose entire schtick, and indeed job established over a decade ago, is to be irreverent and critical about even the most excellent games. Croshaw's product is comedy, Caddicarus' product is talking about games, and I've never been on board with people having an actual career based on that. Croshaw is an exception because he could be pointing out the flaws in basically anything and still be funny, whereas Caddicarus would be unlikely to draw attention doing the same thing. He's just... another one of those games reviewers.
So I guess that's why. Also, "nutter" is for cunts. True Brits prefer insults like "spoon", "radish", "fucknut", "absolute hedge" and "roaster", you roaster
Somehow I'm suddenly 100% sure that accidentally saying "God of Phwoar" is how they came up with Bayonetta
Dad of War and Atreus "Cumsprout" the Junior.
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Cumsprout is my new favorite term for shitty little dick muppets.
Fuck-trophy just got usurped.
Wow, Yahtzee's voice sure changed between God of War 3 and God of War (2018). In the former he sounds like a caring uncle telling his nephew funny jokes as he get's excited to work in stand-up comedy, and in the latter he sounds like a sarcastic, depraved, British accountant who hates his job. And it's awesome
I mean it was alright , but fanboys really did made it feel overrated
The bosses were definitely the weakest part of God of War. To go from epic battles against Zeus and Poseidon to fighting B-tier Norse gods is a bit of step down.
Also the same trolls over and over and over and over lol
Original joke coming
"This game should be called god of BOY" haha never heard that one before
This game should be called God of BOY
This game should be called God of BOY
window wax It's almost as if I passed over a hundred of those before seeing this one...
It is a rare occasion that I disagree with zero punctuation and this is one of them. Maybe I'm just easier to please but I am having a blast with this game.
It baffles me how nobody complains about the combat camera. Just pull back for fuck sake.
The review you commented on has complained about this exact thing
@@ethai1 I know that. I didn’t mean it literally. MOST people, as in, everybody but Yahtzee hasn’t mentioned it.
@@Nicksta101 Oh ok, got it. My bad.
@@ethai1 well under the mayo did but since his initial review was more recounting his first impressions than a structured deep dive the community despises him
Also he has a different game philosophy to the game and despises the current crop of cinematic games (and god I hate them too)
@@jmurray1110 Perhaps you meant to reply to the original poster?
Another annoyance is when head just doesn’t interact with you because you truck through the story with only a couple side quests because the game just assumes you haven’t yet
Other examples include the bones quest where Atreus acts like a brat from the start despite his mild maturity or the constant references to people killing their furthers and Atreus just not remembering that kratos also did it and explained it 20 minutes earlier
I’m on the opposite side of the spectrum of Yahtzee. I like the new Kratos, story, and combat and got bored of the old games cuz it was, well, predictable. Anger, murder, betrayal, more murder.
Granted I suppose I missed the point of the old games since that was their thing. Anger and gore. I usually hold my anger and gore boner for the goofy shit like Far Cry 5 where you can spear people with a shovel and sick a bear on them.
Grabnok The Destroyer same. I actually quit playing GOW after 3 cause Kratos was just a whiny bitch to me.
DelanoHuntress ...wasn’t 3 the last one??? Or was Ascension after that? I forget.
@@Grab_N001 Ascension came after.
Grabnok The Destroyer I agree. And I also felt that it makes sense as a character arc that after years of senseless slaughter and impassioned revenge, Kratos was fucking tired of it and wanted to live a peaceful life. Anyone would get tired of that and want to settle down. It was a reasonable and understandable evolution that makes him more relatable.
"The Last of Us, that I still say is overrated."
Thank you! It's a fine game, but damn if people don't act like that game is the second coming of Christ.
He'd need to come the first time, first.
Late comment but, yeah, i liked the story very much but the gameplay was kinda meh, i understand that mushroom heads can survive one bullet to the head but the regular ones do to? Yeah, that's kinda dumb
cnwarry Mushroom heads do, regular ones don’t. Maybe you were hitting their necks? I found the story to be amazing and the gameplay was solid stealth, strategic shooter depending on your play style and difficulty.
@@kuolemanlaakso1696 cant even make a analogies anymore without someone being pissy. No one cares you're atheist, are you a vegan too?
That's the impression I had of Undertale
Gotta give props where its due
They saved the other realms for the next game
I think the close camera is a tradeoff to allow for the type of graphics the game has. If you could pull the camera further back, there would be more to render. It works ok for the most part in God of War 4 EXCEPT when you are surrounded by enemies and you physically can't see them. Its especially frustrating when you take on the optional challenges of completing fights without taking any damage.
The devs expressly stated they could tended 150 enemies at a time
It’s just a stupid gimmick they added
BOY!!!
As much as I liked the new GOW, I was waiting a long time for this video just to hear how it'll be torn to shreds. I wasn't disappointed.
I see God of war 4 is for kratos as what JCVD was for Jon Claud van damme.
*SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELD*
I am curious if he fought the Valkyrie Queen when I did I had a couple of friends around and we were taking turns fighting her it was a good laugh
Judging from his attitude on the combat, no.
about the camera:
the funny thing about it is that there are 2 cuts over the whole game... you never leave kratos' bum for 15+ hours of gameplay with a ton of cutscenes (well, you do leave his bum, but not too quickly)
also: dlc? they were very obviously going for a sequel (ok, i know, hindsight bias and everything, but i already thought that at the time)
i like how "the only decapitation is consensual" is actually true
Game is good, but massively overrated. I was absolutely loving it until the end when I realized I wasn't going anywhere interesting after Alfheim and the story wrapped up with the wettest of slap farts.
This and gamingbrit's videos is exactly how I feel about this game. It feels a bit better not being the only lonely voice being told to shut up for not liking this direction for the series.
yeah having close minded hipster on your side doesnt credit your opinion it does exact opposite
@@PlzPr3sspl4y No
Check out MatthewMathosis video too it's really well done.
Even though I loved GOW4, I totally accept Yahtzee’s criticisms of it. I refuse to join the chorus of mindless yeasayers who shout down unpopular opinions, since I’m someone who thinks the Souls games are shit, and received a lot of flak myself for that opinion.
@@jamesmaysflyingwashingmach7459 well, even though you are entitled to your opinions, if you go around saying that Souls games are shit I kinda understand getting a lot of flak from that tbh. I see no harm in unpopular opinions if you can support that with fair criticism though.
4:02 lol the 3D radial Schrödinger equation
Yahtz is free to have his own opinion.
While everyone else is licking this game's taint like it's a gift from god I've been patiently waiting for Yahzee's review. TY for bringing us back down to Earth a bit
I'm still surprised people forget that nothing really happened in the first God Of War. Everything cool happened in the second and third game. So why are you expecting to kill Odin or Thor in the first game. Zeus didn't appear either in God Of War only a glowing face and as a gravedigger. And Yathzee thinks there is going to be DLC hahahah how funny all of that is for the sequel.
Well, don't repeat the mistakes of the prequels fo the sake of a homage... That's just stupid.
Juan Jaramillo "Nothing really happened in the first god of war." That was the game Kratos became God of War, did you even play it?
James Killjoy you really need to learn to read comments. You only fight against Ares and the hydra there is no other huge boss fight like in GOW 2 and GOW 3. But Yathzee acts like he should've killed Thor in the first game. Even of he already killed both his sons Magni and Modri.
+Juan Jaramillo
In God of War 1 you save Athens and kill Ares, completing both Kratos' personal vendetta against the God of War and his redemption quest for the Olympian Gods in the process. Everything in that game was building up to the resolution of that conflict and Ares as an antagonist was a rogue-god serving his own interests. Honestly, with the exception of God of War 2 and 3, all the games in the franchise so far have focused on telling a selfcontained stories first and foremost, barely hinting at a larger overarching narrative of brooding conflicts between Kratos and entities he is working for here and there.
In this new God of War it's obvious from the start, that the game's main antagonist Baldur is nothing but a middle-man, with game constantly reminding us how Odin and Thor are the true villains and sources of conflict behind him and the cliffhanger at the very end only serves the purpose of further rubbing it in our faces how badly the actual conflict of the story is left unresolved by the end.
Also you forgot Pandora's Guardian and Medusa were also boss-battles in the first game, even if the latter was more of a mini-boss type of deal. Granted, it doesn't really take anything away from your point, but just thought I'd mention it.
God of War 1 NEVER built up the other gods as villains. Ares was your one goal and that's it. That changed with 2. This new game builds up villains who are clearly obstacles Kratos and Atreus will have to overcome and they never even appear. At the very least the gods in 1 had their heads show up and talk
How are you not gonna talk about the damn Valkyries lol
Sure the combat trees are filled with maybe-useful options... but I can ignore that, like you did, and end up witg a close approximation of Dark Souls combat so... that suits me just fine. Sometimes I accidentally do a combo I unlocked and that can be a fun surprise... "huh that was a neat move... wonder what upgrade that was... AH WELL... back to block, dodge and attack."
The first opinion on this game I've seen that made any god damn sense. Everyone else seems to be head over heels and that's just... Sad
Gotta agree with Yahtzee: after watching the Magni/Modi fight and witnessing the REALLY lackluster way in which Kratos finishes it off just made me realize how bland they had made him. If this is what we can expect for the future of the hack and slash violence, I'm out. Just imagine that kind of thing passing for Mortal Kombat finishers, people would lose their fucking tits over it.
There's only one problem with this review. At no stage was it referred to as Dad of Boy!
"BOY!"
THANK GOD for yathzee for not jumping on the "OMFG BEST GAEM OF THE CENTURY EVER!!" boat like most reviewers
"Gotta save something for that DLC!"
Umm. . . Yeah about that. . .
Im glad they didnt do that , at least shows some integrity
My primary issue with the game having played the previous installments was the cutscenes. There a numerous long cutscenes in the game where Kratos is fighting people that are framed perfectly for the player to be mashing buttons like in the old games, but instead there are no prompts and you just kind of watch it happen. I'm not saying QTEs are great gameplay, but their addition in the more cinematic fights at least gave you the feeling of some input. I understand that bright glowing "PRESS TRIANGLE TO TEAR OFF HELIOS' HEAD!!" wouldn't be appropriate for the tone this game's trying to set, but being able to literally just set the controller down while Kratos flies through the air punching a dude leaves me feeling detached from what should be the most memorable parts of the game.
Also, I liked the combat. You don't do as much crazy stuff as you used to, but the axe feels very weighty and satisfying to kill things with, and I don't think the over abundance of options is a bad thing. Very quickly I was so flooded with xp I just bought every upgrade, and sort of discovered them by experimenting in combat. It'd be worse if xp was really hard to come by and you had to choose upgrades wisely, but you really don't.
beaverbicycle times like this I find it strange why people hated so much on qtes especially the good ones in this series.
beaverbicycle Did you play the game?
Johnny Campos As if you doubt that?
Johnny Campos No, I made those claims having never even SEEN the game. You've found me out and now have claim to my pot of gold.
EXACTLY THIS
I was sitting ther thinking "well I remember having much more actual playing involved in a game"
4:46 i love these moments
Barlog has said he'd rather just take a break and then get started on the sequel than do any DLC. He talked about how in Tyr's travel palace he decided to have the words "Odin locked this off: YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS" so that players knew he wasn't trying to parcel out the game in DLC, but also had to acknowledge the other realms' existence.
Gotta be honest I adore the combat in this game
While I agree that the story could have been better written, and that the open world busywork tends to bog it down more than enhance it, the thought of a maturer, less intentionally violent Kratos is an interesting idea to explore.
If we're going to get continuations of stories that we thought to have ended over a decade ago, then the characters in those stories should mature and change in meaningful ways. And Kratos doing literally everything he can in order to save his son from living the same life he led as a god is definitely a meaningful and drastic change to his character. It's also one that could have been better executed.
He was older and debatably wiser, but I wouldn't say more mature (the story isn't really any deeper than GoW1's). Most of what Kratos does in the game isn't too different from what he's done in the original series. I mean, interacting with children, daughter and surrogate daughter included, in a bunch of ways is something we've seen a few times as well.
God of Bore
God of Chore
God of Four
God of Snore
God of Please No More
God of Nor(se)
God of "Push L3 to slowly move forward to hear more" Lore
Really wish those outros weren't removed
It's funny about the close-in RE4-style camera as one of Yahtzee's friends pointed out when he did the post-ZP stream of God of Phwoar, that it was clearly chosen since it would be easier to render the beautiful environments that would be requisite to sell people on buying a PS4 than the traditional zoomed-out camera seen in previous games in the series (and in the games that a decade ago were trying to imitate GoW's style).
"...like it's Happy Days!" My favorite part of this video.
Having finished the game recently, I have to agree with Yahtzee with nothing much of consequence happening by the end. I'm sure we'll fight more baddies in the sequels, but the only real threat in the game was the one guy and his twin nephews that you encounter for a bit. I dunno, the story was good but it didn't really blow me anyway or anything, contrary to what a lot of people seem to think about it.
Where in the Hel is Odin, anyway?
in Asgard
If releases like this are good for anything, its to remind us just how good the originals were
I love that Yhatz's response is much the same as Rattatpakr's: "Fuck off I'm busy!"
I think the main issue with the “constant violence” theme of God of War was that it could only be done so many times before it lost all meaning behind it, and it just became violent for the sake of violence
...which is pretty much what he's asking for if you think about it.
I mean that's what happened with GoW Ascension. It was just more of the same and people kind of didn't care.
I find it rather funny how in your latest audiobook you sound angrier than in any ZP video.
Or is that how you sound normally and you do a "friendly" voice for youtube?
Kratos after every battle: Hrmph. Best line ever.
I came for a cranky, curmudgeon critic and I got a cranky, curmudgeon critic.
God this game had so much potential, give us at least another god to fight against, do something with that giant owl thing in Helheim, do something with Zues in Helheim. With how much they were banging on about the tortures of Heliem i was thinking you'd have to fight a projection of Zeus as younger Kratos or something
“Boi, did I ever tell you the story of the Realms of DLC?”
4:45, the most terrifying one of the Imps has every been to me. Seriously, that too wide toothy grin, the proportionally obscene stiffy and you have the most terrifying thing ever concocted by Yahtzee for ZP.
On the whole lack of gods killing thing, it's kind of like when you go on a weekend binge. You need some time to just let the hangover pass before you do it all over again.
Bless this man for being the only one to admit god of bore isnt amazing
Amen. I enjoyed the game well enough, but it wasn't mind-blowing or anything.
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Yatzhee Do Pillars of Eternity 2 Deadfire !!!!!
Do you really think he has the attention span for that game?
It's the most streamlined CRPG ever. I'm confident he can play it.
I played through all of Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny, and am in the middle of Deadfire at the moment, and I can say with certainty that a large majority of the combat information in my log I just end up glossing over. All the 8 damage types and determining which one I should technically be using is not at all simplistic, and that's not even factoring in the large amount of different spell effects.
And that's just combat. There's no way this dude wants to read the dense narrative in these games, even if there is more voice acting than before.
You're not the only one who has played them. I didn't even skip through the text , read everything because the writing was immersive. The combat log is only there for occasional viewing for accessing the situation better , the combat system is definitely amazing and deep but it can be skipped by playing on easy or storyteller difficulty.
This time the combat is more streamlined , more balanced and the game is fully voiced so... If not a 100% , there is a worthwhile chance of him liking it a lot. There's also the fact that he has never played any rich CRPG before. Maybe it'll take him by surprise?
Um, well, mentioning that I played Obsidian's other RPGs in no way implies that other people haven't. I mostly mentioned that to clarify that I enjoy their games. What I was getting at is even after playing 3 of their games, there are still aspects of optimizing damage that I still don't fully utilize because of the variety of different damage types and other mechanics that affect that. Yahtzee complained in this very video that God of War has complicated attacks that he's never going to bother using. A CRPG is literally all about that.
Of all the characters to get this sort of "responsible dad" makeover, Kratos is the one that I buy the least. His entire existence in the Greek God of War games was defined by his excessive violence and rage, to the point that, at the end of God of War 3, he punched Zeus so many times that Zeus' blood completely obscured his vision, then killed himself with a very big sword just to spite the ghost of Athena (still not sure how he got over that). And then next time we see him, he's...not going ballistic over the death of his wife. Which is just a startling shift in personality for a guy whose announced motivation in the Greek games was...the death of his wife and child.
"Yes I am going to insist on calling it that" except it's the 5th one...
Boomer Tiro This is widely referred to as God of War 4 mainly because it is set after 3.
The beginning of the game really intrigued me. Since it started out so small with just carrying a tree, seeing the scope widen to encompass multiple realms really drew me in. I wanted to explore, and see everything.
Did that change on a truest playthrough
Repeat
2:53
OH COME ON!
Now I feel obliged to have kebab because I'm drunk.
I knew he was going to mention too human.
There should be a list of male video game characters with unruly beards and standoffish personalities.
Rico Rodriguez from Just Cause 3
Kratos from God of War 2018
Max Payne from Max Payne 3
Joel from The Last of Us
And that's all I can think of for now.
Arthur (if you play him that way) - RDR2
Geralt (kind of) - The Witcher 3
Big Boss - MGS5
Sam Porter - Death Stranding
Main character in the Modern Warfare reboot
Marcus Phoenix - Gears 4
Hank - Detroit Become Human
Sebastian - The Evil Within 2
The combat feels uniquely weighted and has immensely satisfying impact. I agree that the camera could have been pulled back but other than that, it was a new benchmark for feel.
I loved the original GoW games. Played all of them except Chains of Olympus. Although I am a PC player, I was so excited for the new GoW that I bought a PS4 just to play it. I made sure to replay all of the originals beforehand, and had a blast, again. And then... I got to this one... and see everything that I knew and loved destroyed. I don't think I played it for more than a couple of hours. Such a pity.
Maybe you should have looked at gameplay previews or trailers before you decided to pay for it. Also, the game gets a lot better, it just starts off slow, particularly the combat, and *spoilers* but the axe isn't your only weapon.
Take Kratos’ advice from the start “everything is different boy, try not to dwell on it”. If you keep getting hung up with what they did in the past how can you enjoy what’s new?
@@SPM0717 No it definitely stays slow... The blades are animated kinda horribly compared to OG series, they don't have the same frantic and powerful lashing they once did now that Kratos is more realistically designed and doesn't move as crazily.
GOD OF WAR 4 is the prologue for the future god of war games
I'll wait until it's on sale.
saltyp Bad choice.
@SicParvisMagna123 I wait until everything's on sale, I'm a cheap bastard. I haven't bought a full price game since 2013.
Got it for $17 Black Friday.
2:19 boy, that joke certainly aged well...😒
4:16 attacks are also not commited, you can cancel them with a parry, which makes combat pretty lackluster imo. Also enemies only have 2 patterns to attack so it's mostly a rythm combat, hit parry hit hit parry, repeat.
you nag about the lack of gods but i mean ares was the only actual god that showed up in the first game
I'm probably not the best person to say this because I came here to get my opinion on this game validated, but the comments are entirely the same thing: "Oh no, he didn't like it, well that's ok, I don't have to agree with him all the time" and then proceed to explain why the game is "great" according to you. Do you think you'll actually make him change his opinion? Or did you feel personally attacked and need to defend this game because to you, if someone bashes something you like then they are bashing you?
I swear, your videos and my morning coffee at 6am are the best way to start a work day...until I shoot coffee out my nose from laughing
I didn't play the originals and I like the one-shot presentation and the combat so Ha, I get to keep liking this game even though I agree with your points
I'm sorry but have we played different games? You riff on how Kratos teaches his kid morals and suddenly doesn't want to kill anyone, but he just doesn't want his kid to die. He's teaching his kid how to murder and the first hour of the game shows Kratos finding Atreus incapable of murdering quite efficiently enough. He tells the kid to block out his emotions and don't feel sorry for his enemies. I'm not sure how he's seen the light or whatever, he just wants Atreus to not-die.
Finally someone on the internet that shares my opinion on this game, and it also happens to be my favorite reviewer ever. That _almost_ makes up for having to listen to everybody else praise it all the time.
thegamingbrit also agreed
Is there anyone else? If only I had a moderately popular RUclips channel because I have a LOT to say about this game and what it means for the future of gaming, oh well.