I've finally made my first ever trap video! I know there's already plenty of Argentavis traps, but I really wanted to have a go at coming up with my own design, that was different to any I've seen, for my ASA playthrough. I set myself the goal of making my trap doorless, so that it worked automatically, and was useable on foot and PT. This is what I came up with. I hope you find it useful. It's not the simplest/cheapest trap, but @captainfatdog already has that covered, so check him out if that's what you're after.
For ground dinos. Everyone thinks the old pit traps don't work anymore due to pathing, but they do... just have to put a trap door on top of it and set it to open in, and when the dino chases you up onto it, open the trap door... easy peasy. Note make sure the walls are doors so you can run outside. Also nice simple build.
Thank you! And indeed, they didn't work when the game released, but they've made a few tweaks to the pathfinding already and things are much better! People had to get extra creative at first, but the pathfinding is better balanced now. People might not have realised and think they still don't work now, so I'd imagine you're right!
You can also make pit/cage traps with ramps work by building the ramp seperate to the trap, the AI doesnt like to run up a ramp that is part of the pit/cage, but it will run up a ramp that isnt joined to the pit/cage Either build the ramp a little higher, or just let their inertia carry them into the pit/cage I find it easier or best to use a pillar to attach the ramps to, you pause briefly on top of the ramp and make sure their following then drop down and out through the back of it, they should follow As always it may not work 100%, but it works a lot more than if the ramp IS aattached to the trap Im gonna try the trap door too though, see which i prefer
@toastbloke lol 😆. You know it's rite. Stand at top of ramp dino comes up. You fall in trap and walk out door. Dinos in trap. I do have 550 health charachter so let them attack me at top of ramp for extra guarantee they go in but don't need to and now they've fixed ai a little bit it works from being on dinos to. But game is still severely broken 😢
That's brilliant, I wondered how you got the tamed argy out when I first saw the trap. Well done. No more having to try and run around and close doors.
Cheers very much fella! Took me many iterations to figure out how to get it to go in and not be able to get out, but make it so I was still be able to get it out at the end! 😂 Doorless traps are my favourite, so it had to crack this one!
Dino gate argy trap always causes me issues with closing the door. I miss it or am too slow often. I am gonna try this trap. No doors or mess to hang me up.
This is brilliant, and truly inspired dude! Love your stuff, and have been using your boat /foundation leveling trick (and throwin all the props your way) since I saw that vid. You really know your stuff! Im currently noodling to figure out a way to build on platform saddles without having to leave an "empty spot" where the harness is in order to be able to fly/guide the beasts.. no luck so far, but there's a nut to crack if you're in the mood for a fine puzzle :)
You're proper kind! Appreciate you! I'm glad you're finding things useful. A lot of it's just messing around, and trial and error, until something strange happens you didn't expect. Can be infuriating, but when you crack something it feels so good! I've not even looked at a platform saddle yet, and didn't use them much in the old game, but I can certainly take a look into it! Like, sink foundations down so you can build and fly?
Worked really well! Had trouble at first but I accidentally got too far away and the argy lost agro got out. I did it again and made sure to stay close and it worked.
Great stuff! They did something two patches ago that meant you really have to wait until the argy gets all the way in. It used to just do it right away as you can see in the video. Hopefully that gets fixed!
Glad you like it! Too many times something stupid, like a sabretooth, or a badly placed bush, would stop me getting a trap's door open in time, or I'd take unnecessary damage doing it, so I've always loved any trap designs that do the work for you!
It would have been way better with keypads! Might just stick one on the side for the looks going forwards! Haha! And cheers! Indeed, it's a good feeling when your realise you've figured something out that actually works after 100's of near misses!
Awesome little trap, being so small is handy on official pve. I managed to find a small non pillared spot on carno island to fit the trap and it worked a treat. Thanks.
Thank you! Always lovely to hear people are getting some use out of them! Hoping to get back to making some more soon now my current playthrough project is over!
Thank you, kindly! And yes, it ended up not looking too bad after a few tweaks. Some of the early versions looks ridiculous, so I'm glad it worked out!
Lovely stuff! It's definitely easier to run them in on foot with how low you have to keep you flyer to kite one in, but glad to hear you were able to. Cheers!
I've spent forty minutes trying to make this trap work and it's failed every time, it either flies past the trap or it gets in the trap and just flies out. It worked first try on my first argy so I'm pretty sure this broke in an update
@@toastbloke I was using the same trap as last time, I honestly have no idea why it didn't work. The first time it was as simple as flying through it with a pteranodon, but this time I must have gotten it into the trap seven or eight times and it turned around and flew back out every time
@@thomasdevlin5825Could it maybe be that it wasn’t fully inside? Sometimes it looks like it’s in the trap, but it needs its feet over the door and to fly down. Standing or land on the ramp once you go through makes sure it comes all the way in. It’s harder with a flyer as it flys up into the roof more if you don’t land or fly down behind the ramp. Let me know if that helps. Cheers!
When it comes to traps, Cap's are the best! Crushed the minimal design before I even got onto traps, so had to take a different approach. Glad you like it! Cheers!
I was reluctant to watch this, since i play only Svartalfheim and we dont have fliers there But its a cool design, simple and effective And as you say, there are alredy other traps for Argy, but it doesnt hurt to make more, in some cases or places sometimes, one is better than another, youve given people more options 👍
Eeeesh! You traitor! Just wait until I tell Nekatus you're watching The Island content! 😜 Cheers for the props. Always nice to hear people can see some value in the things you share!
@@toastbloke I broke my own personal rule, just for you mate Just dont go spreading it, i dont want my rep of being a miserable old git ruined by people saying i did something nice
Bird flew right out of it. I don't know if they changed something with pathing since this video was made but it doesn't seep to work with this design anymore.
It seems they can get a bit stuck in the entrance sometimes depending on a few differing factors these days. You have the make sure it flies down the upper ramp and right into the front or it’s just got its feet in, not its body. Just means you to stand on the bottom ramp a little to tease it in. Hope that helps!
Its all beautiful and all but u should tell the ppl that traps with foundatins Kills dinos spawns!Because alot of ppl that play on oficial servers dont know about that...
Thank you! I didn't mention it because it's not trap specific, and is fairly well known, but yes, structures can stop spawns. That's why one simple simple trap, that's easy for anyone to use, can be helpful! 😎
Cap is a pal and inspiration! He has a great little argy trap for ASA! Highly recommend checking it out! I mean, traps using ARK structures will look like all traps, so every trap probs looks like a Cap trap! He made so many game changers for ASE!
@@toastbloke oh yeah without doubt most effect traps will look very similar that's unavoidable. There are so many different traps and each will be situational too so what works in one area may not work in another. Have a great day man. 😎👍
@sg.o7139 I think more so with this version of the game. I miss all the janky snap points! Made things feel less standard! Caps pillar tricks are what got me into building in ARK and this games removed that room for creativity! 😭
@@toastbloke Ark? Janky? 🤣 I agree but I'm also sat on the fence with it. Graphically it looks great but is in dire need of huge optimisation changes. Gameplay is janky again with tames falling through the mesh which should definitely not be happening. I just think a lot more effort could have been made before release but maybe in time they will actually fix some issues that are still present. Like the Longneck reloading bug. I mean come on Wildcard ffs!? Telling us it was completely rebuilt from the ground up is clearly not the case. I've not really delved into the building mechanics yet as I'm treating my solo play through on XBSX as a test which I'm not invested in. I've barely touched my pc version.
@@lucasCFC1905 It’s all good young’n’. You don’t have to watch them if you struggle with concentration. Watch someone else… or again, the 60 second short 🔥😂
Nice trap, but IMO if you have to trap an Argy in ASA you should find a new game. You can knock out any argy on foot without ever getting hit. Pathing sucks in ASA so you only have to sidestep it when it gets close.
Cheers! There’s lots of things that aren’t needed, but are still fun to play about with and/or make life a little easier. Never a bad idea to future proof either, just incase the pathing improves and they end up pulling out Street Fighter moves. They are odd though. Love to just fly back to you right away deciding to fly off atm!
It's not a pain when it chases you, it's a pain when its torpor goes up, you get a xbow glitch and it starts flying off... And knocking it down anywhere wiht such a long taming time gives it so much time to be attacked by so many different creatures and you lose taming effectiveness.
Helpful for us peeps many miles from a server with high ping who can't shoot arrows due to rubberbanding. Also great if you have subpar eyesight and reflexes but love ark. Something for everyone. I always use a trap, have no intention of finding another game. Horses for courses.
You never really even needed traps in ASE for The Island creatures, but they make life easier and building is a big part of the fun to be had in the game! Hopefully, they get sorted out soon regardless and add some extra challenge!
Nice cheap trap for servers with structure pick-up disabled. For the rest I'd still prefer good old 4 gates-2doors one since it's easily reusable and can trap almost every dino from argy to giga.
Cheers! I've never been a fan of gateways, coming from PvP, as cheap, quick and discrete is king, and building is my favourite part of the game, but I completely get why people use them. One trap solves all, especially with pick up being official now, like you say!
Cheers! I'm pretty sure using a trap doesn't mean you shouldn't play ARK. Just means there's people out there who enjoy building and want to make life a little easier by preventing other things getting in the way. It's not like you desperately need any traps in that case! Maybe nobody should play! 😜
I've finally made my first ever trap video! I know there's already plenty of Argentavis traps, but I really wanted to have a go at coming up with my own design, that was different to any I've seen, for my ASA playthrough. I set myself the goal of making my trap doorless, so that it worked automatically, and was useable on foot and PT. This is what I came up with. I hope you find it useful. It's not the simplest/cheapest trap, but @captainfatdog already has that covered, so check him out if that's what you're after.
I believe that costs of the trap are so low that being "cheap" isn't most important. Your trap is minimalistic and - of course it works
Great idea. I like it. Thx
For ground dinos. Everyone thinks the old pit traps don't work anymore due to pathing, but they do... just have to put a trap door on top of it and set it to open in, and when the dino chases you up onto it, open the trap door... easy peasy. Note make sure the walls are doors so you can run outside. Also nice simple build.
Thank you! And indeed, they didn't work when the game released, but they've made a few tweaks to the pathfinding already and things are much better! People had to get extra creative at first, but the pathfinding is better balanced now. People might not have realised and think they still don't work now, so I'd imagine you're right!
You can also make pit/cage traps with ramps work by building the ramp seperate to the trap, the AI doesnt like to run up a ramp that is part of the pit/cage, but it will run up a ramp that isnt joined to the pit/cage
Either build the ramp a little higher, or just let their inertia carry them into the pit/cage
I find it easier or best to use a pillar to attach the ramps to, you pause briefly on top of the ramp and make sure their following then drop down and out through the back of it, they should follow
As always it may not work 100%, but it works a lot more than if the ramp IS aattached to the trap
Im gonna try the trap door too though, see which i prefer
Just man up. Stand on the ramp. Dinos have no issue coming up it to a source of food lmfao.
@@twdsurvivors5625 What if we're not ready for that? What if we don't have what it takes to be as manned up as you?! 😜
@toastbloke lol 😆. You know it's rite. Stand at top of ramp dino comes up. You fall in trap and walk out door. Dinos in trap. I do have 550 health charachter so let them attack me at top of ramp for extra guarantee they go in but don't need to and now they've fixed ai a little bit it works from being on dinos to. But game is still severely broken 😢
Wow, the trap looks cool
Love the idea that you don’t need to pickup the structures to get the Argy out
Cheers very much. Glad you think so! 🙌
And yes, I'm a big fan of reusable traps that don't need doors too!
That's brilliant, I wondered how you got the tamed argy out when I first saw the trap. Well done. No more having to try and run around and close doors.
Cheers very much fella! Took me many iterations to figure out how to get it to go in and not be able to get out, but make it so I was still be able to get it out at the end! 😂 Doorless traps are my favourite, so it had to crack this one!
Dino gate argy trap always causes me issues with closing the door. I miss it or am too slow often. I am gonna try this trap. No doors or mess to hang me up.
This is brilliant, and truly inspired dude! Love your stuff, and have been using your boat /foundation leveling trick (and throwin all the props your way) since I saw that vid. You really know your stuff! Im currently noodling to figure out a way to build on platform saddles without having to leave an "empty spot" where the harness is in order to be able to fly/guide the beasts.. no luck so far, but there's a nut to crack if you're in the mood for a fine puzzle :)
You're proper kind! Appreciate you! I'm glad you're finding things useful. A lot of it's just messing around, and trial and error, until something strange happens you didn't expect. Can be infuriating, but when you crack something it feels so good! I've not even looked at a platform saddle yet, and didn't use them much in the old game, but I can certainly take a look into it! Like, sink foundations down so you can build and fly?
Worked really well! Had trouble at first but I accidentally got too far away and the argy lost agro got out. I did it again and made sure to stay close and it worked.
Great stuff! They did something two patches ago that meant you really have to wait until the argy gets all the way in. It used to just do it right away as you can see in the video. Hopefully that gets fixed!
Super simple, portable and resource cheap trap. Worked like a charm! Tyvm for this simple yet perfect idea.
Proper canny, cheers! Glad you’ve found it useful! 🙌🏻
Legit bro your drops are fire and deserve to be seen. Don't stop grinding fam
Appreciate the canny comment and encouragement! Cheers!
I didn’t build it right but it still worked this trap is amazing
As long as what you did worked, that's all that matters! Well done, and thank you kindly!
Very nice design and indeed no doors and no pickups needed so good trap for public use. Also small footprint so no visual pollution like dino gates.
Cheers! I'm glad you can see plenty of benefits to putting it into use!
Love the trap, mate! Also like the layout of the video. Subbed and will check out your other stuff.
Appreciate it! Cheers for the support!
A trap you can walk straight through is perfect. less fluffing around lining up dinos the better.
Glad you like it! Too many times something stupid, like a sabretooth, or a badly placed bush, would stop me getting a trap's door open in time, or I'd take unnecessary damage doing it, so I've always loved any trap designs that do the work for you!
I like it and since there are no doors I can build it and leave it for anyone to use. Well done.
Lovely, thank you! Indeed! One trap on one part of the map, thanks to no locked doors! No more trap spam!
Brilliant trap design
Thank you kindly, fine Sir!
Excellent Toast! No keypads??? Joking haha! Seriously, well done, really stoked, as you should be.
It would have been way better with keypads! Might just stick one on the side for the looks going forwards! Haha! And cheers! Indeed, it's a good feeling when your realise you've figured something out that actually works after 100's of near misses!
Awesome little trap, being so small is handy on official pve. I managed to find a small non pillared spot on carno island to fit the trap and it worked a treat. Thanks.
Fantastic! Glad you’ve found it useful! 🔥
Love your simple and portable traps! Makes it nice if u don't have a good cargo flyer to fly around the mats! Keep it up thanks!
Btw I've used ur baryonyx trap multiple times now! Easy to transport, fast to put up and works everytime! Thanks again!
Thank you! Always lovely to hear people are getting some use out of them! Hoping to get back to making some more soon now my current playthrough project is over!
Well done dude! Brilliant.
Thanks a million! Very kind!
Works fantastic! I've trapped about half a dozen using this trap. Nearly flawless every time!
Cheers! This is great to hear! I worry things might stop working with all the patches recently!
@@toastbloke well I'll keep testing it. I'm a little Argy obsessed, so always on the lookout.
Nice trap. Looks good and very efficient 👍
Thank you, kindly! And yes, it ended up not looking too bad after a few tweaks. Some of the early versions looks ridiculous, so I'm glad it worked out!
Would be very interested to see some versions for larger dinos. Getting them to walk through gates and up ramps is problematic 😁
@@Puddleglum83 It would take months just to build a ramp big enough alone... 😅😜
Used this trap with great success today! Thanks, Toast!
Get in! Love a success story! 🔥
Trap worked. Was a little hard to get the argy in bc my flyer has high movement speed but overall pretty good.
Lovely stuff! It's definitely easier to run them in on foot with how low you have to keep you flyer to kite one in, but glad to hear you were able to. Cheers!
I'm building this tonight!
Spot on! How did it go?
nice simple trap, i like it ;)
Cheers millions buddy! The simple things are always the best... or at least that's what I keep telling myself and my simple mind! 😅
Brilliant trap and great video mate
Proper canny of you to say so, cheers! Hope it helps! 🫡
I've spent forty minutes trying to make this trap work and it's failed every time, it either flies past the trap or it gets in the trap and just flies out. It worked first try on my first argy so I'm pretty sure this broke in an update
I've just been on the test it, on server and single-player, and it worked both times. Are you using the same trap, or did you rebuild it?
@@toastbloke I was using the same trap as last time, I honestly have no idea why it didn't work. The first time it was as simple as flying through it with a pteranodon, but this time I must have gotten it into the trap seven or eight times and it turned around and flew back out every time
@@thomasdevlin5825Could it maybe be that it wasn’t fully inside? Sometimes it looks like it’s in the trap, but it needs its feet over the door and to fly down. Standing or land on the ramp once you go through makes sure it comes all the way in. It’s harder with a flyer as it flys up into the roof more if you don’t land or fly down behind the ramp. Let me know if that helps. Cheers!
brilliant upgrade to fat dog's concoction, well done bloke!
When it comes to traps, Cap's are the best! Crushed the minimal design before I even got onto traps, so had to take a different approach. Glad you like it! Cheers!
Awesome video brother
Appreciate it! Cheers!
I was reluctant to watch this, since i play only Svartalfheim and we dont have fliers there
But its a cool design, simple and effective
And as you say, there are alredy other traps for Argy, but it doesnt hurt to make more, in some cases or places sometimes, one is better than another, youve given people more options 👍
Eeeesh! You traitor! Just wait until I tell Nekatus you're watching The Island content! 😜
Cheers for the props. Always nice to hear people can see some value in the things you share!
@@toastbloke I broke my own personal rule, just for you mate
Just dont go spreading it, i dont want my rep of being a miserable old git ruined by people saying i did something nice
I just used this trap on SE thanks a lot mate ❤😊🎉
Top notch stuff!! Class to hear it helped! Thanks for the comment 🙏🏻
Great trap... Thanks
No problem. Cheers!
has this been patched? i tried this today and its saying no snap points or that i cant place the object
No snap points is a very strange one. It builds and works fine still. Are you on ASA? Is it a modded or unofficial server?
@ realizing this is ASA, I feel silly I’m playing on ASE
How do you just lower the foundation flush with the ground like that? Playing on og Ark? Edit. Nm I see you are playing on Ascended
Yeah, this is for ASA, but here's an old trick I used to use in ASE to lower foundations quickly: ruclips.net/user/shortsamixfs-tZys
@@toastbloke thank you bro! 🤘
Nice trap! 👌
Thanks kindly, you tinker! 😎 Might have to look into making some more!
Very cool video
Very kind comment! 🔥
NICE
@CaptainFatdog would be proud.
Would be? He's still alive, right?! 😛
And thanks! The man got me into janky ARK building, so that would be a huge accolade!
Don't correct the English teacher's grammar. Even if she's wrong. 😂😝
@@SnoGryphon Does that mean he's okay? And, I'll be good, I promise. Sorry. Please no detention!
Funny you should mention CaptainFatdog, I made a crystal wyvern trap recently based on his design, minus the moving parts lol
Bird flew right out of it. I don't know if they changed something with pathing since this video was made but it doesn't seep to work with this design anymore.
It seems they can get a bit stuck in the entrance sometimes depending on a few differing factors these days. You have the make sure it flies down the upper ramp and right into the front or it’s just got its feet in, not its body. Just means you to stand on the bottom ramp a little to tease it in. Hope that helps!
What about A Griffin
That would be fun to figure out! It's something I'll have to try, when they add them into the game officially!
Its all beautiful and all but u should tell the ppl that traps with foundatins Kills dinos spawns!Because alot of ppl that play on oficial servers dont know about that...
Thank you! I didn't mention it because it's not trap specific, and is fairly well known, but yes, structures can stop spawns. That's why one simple simple trap, that's easy for anyone to use, can be helpful! 😎
Anyone know how to lower/raise pillars on ps4?
If you're on ASA, you just look up and down after the first click to place. Would be your right analogue stick, I believe.
@@toastbloke thx for the reply. it didn't seem to work using either stick with foundations or pillars
This looks like a modified captain fatdog trap.
Cap is a pal and inspiration! He has a great little argy trap for ASA! Highly recommend checking it out! I mean, traps using ARK structures will look like all traps, so every trap probs looks like a Cap trap! He made so many game changers for ASE!
@@toastbloke oh yeah without doubt most effect traps will look very similar that's unavoidable. There are so many different traps and each will be situational too so what works in one area may not work in another.
Have a great day man. 😎👍
@sg.o7139 I think more so with this version of the game. I miss all the janky snap points! Made things feel less standard! Caps pillar tricks are what got me into building in ARK and this games removed that room for creativity! 😭
@@toastbloke Ark? Janky? 🤣 I agree but I'm also sat on the fence with it. Graphically it looks great but is in dire need of huge optimisation changes. Gameplay is janky again with tames falling through the mesh which should definitely not be happening.
I just think a lot more effort could have been made before release but maybe in time they will actually fix some issues that are still present. Like the Longneck reloading bug. I mean come on Wildcard ffs!? Telling us it was completely rebuilt from the ground up is clearly not the case.
I've not really delved into the building mechanics yet as I'm treating my solo play through on XBSX as a test which I'm not invested in. I've barely touched my pc version.
An auto-trap? Nice.
Cheers! It sounds better than calling it the, 'I'm too Lazy to be Bothered to Open any Doors Argentavis Trap,' doesn't it! 😅
@@toastbloke You got an auto Giga trap?
captainfatdog will be imprest :) 😜
Would mean a lot if he was! Learned loads about building from him! Cap is the top donnie when it comes to solving problems with building in ARK!
I think the argent is a pay
Actor 😊😊😊🤣🤣🤣🤣
The argy knows it better do as it's told or it's getting red gunned! 😂
notbad
Thanks!
Dont need a 12 min vid for a trap mate
Don't need a comment telling me how long my videos should be mate. Go watch the short 😂
@ mate just cos ur vids are 12 minutes of you just blabbing on and on
@@lucasCFC1905 It’s all good young’n’. You don’t have to watch them if you struggle with concentration. Watch someone else… or again, the 60 second short 🔥😂
why would any one need a Argy trap... ROFL
Why would anyone watch a video on an argy trap who doesn’t need one… ROFL! 😜
Bro. A trap is not a trap if its not trap….
Does this mean a not a trap is a trap if it's a trap? If so, what even is a trap?
NO FUNCIONA
YES FUNCIONA
Nice trap, but IMO if you have to trap an Argy in ASA you should find a new game. You can knock out any argy on foot without ever getting hit. Pathing sucks in ASA so you only have to sidestep it when it gets close.
Cheers! There’s lots of things that aren’t needed, but are still fun to play about with and/or make life a little easier. Never a bad idea to future proof either, just incase the pathing improves and they end up pulling out Street Fighter moves. They are odd though. Love to just fly back to you right away deciding to fly off atm!
It's not a pain when it chases you, it's a pain when its torpor goes up, you get a xbow glitch and it starts flying off... And knocking it down anywhere wiht such a long taming time gives it so much time to be attacked by so many different creatures and you lose taming effectiveness.
Helpful for us peeps many miles from a server with high ping who can't shoot arrows due to rubberbanding. Also great if you have subpar eyesight and reflexes but love ark. Something for everyone. I always use a trap, have no intention of finding another game. Horses for courses.
asa dinos are broken you don't need traps anymore, just run circles around them. they dumber than last time
You never really even needed traps in ASE for The Island creatures, but they make life easier and building is a big part of the fun to be had in the game! Hopefully, they get sorted out soon regardless and add some extra challenge!
bad trap it get out :{
Did you leave it in there without aggro? I explain in the video you need to keep aggro. It can get out when relaxed.
Nice cheap trap for servers with structure pick-up disabled.
For the rest I'd still prefer good old 4 gates-2doors one since it's easily reusable and can trap almost every dino from argy to giga.
Cheers! I've never been a fan of gateways, coming from PvP, as cheap, quick and discrete is king, and building is my favourite part of the game, but I completely get why people use them. One trap solves all, especially with pick up being official now, like you say!
Nice trap but anyone who needs to trap an Argie shouldn’t be playing ark 😂
I need/use a trap, and I shall continue to play Ark. Depends on your play style, I am not much of a shooter. Something for everyone.
Cheers! I'm pretty sure using a trap doesn't mean you shouldn't play ARK. Just means there's people out there who enjoy building and want to make life a little easier by preventing other things getting in the way. It's not like you desperately need any traps in that case! Maybe nobody should play! 😜
It sucks don’t try it
Skill issue? 😜