I edit wedding photos. That means that I edit somewhere around 600 photos per wedding. I use a program like Lightroom, but I don't use Lightroom. This is because though Lightroom exports photos about 3x faster than the software that I use, it actively edits photos somewhat slower. Speed editing photos is very important when you are doing 600 photos at a time. If it takes you just one minute per to edit 600 photos, you are spending 10 hours editing. I can always do something else when my photos are exporting, like watching RUclips videos such as this one. Multi core export time takes a distant backseat when you are editing photos in either Photoshop, Lightroom, or the editing program that I use. Multi core export time is almost meaningless to someone doing photography. Load time for photos and editing time mean a lot. I am seriously looking at the 12600k for my next computer.
I have heard that. However I have a 12600k and nothing is cheaper than something that you already have. Something that you already have is free.@@0yebsdk
The 13600k is an absolute haymaker from Intel. I really want to go for Ryzen so I can keep the same motherboard for an upgrade in a few years but i just don’t know if I can justify the cost
You'll be thanking yourself when you upgrade in a few years. Also I'm pretty skeptical of the results from this channel, I would recommend the highly reputable Toms Hardware. TechPowerUp, AnandTech and Guru3D are also good.
If you don't upgrade every new chip gen, this cpu is a little monster, GN, Tom's hardware, etc. show the same results, it tends to be faster in MT than the 7700x while being 120usd cheaper, and makes both the 7600x and 7700x look like terrible value with the promise of future proofing. In both cases you save about the same amount of money, intel 600 motherboards are quite noticeable cheaper than amd's, and with the high cost you would be paying for an overpriced chip like all zen4 besides the 7950x and their motherboards, you can simply spend the saved money later on if you want to change chip again.
@@ishiddddd4783 Oh yea, don't get me wrong one bit, 13600K is really awesome for the price! I'll recommend either the 5800X3D or 13600K to ANYONE that needs to build a reasonably priced system right now, depending on their use case and budget. 5800X3D has got the gaming big time and fairly alright productivity on a cheaper platform, and 13600K has got the productivity but still pretty solid gaming experience. As for myself, What I plan on doing is waiting for the end of a platform, such as Intels next socket or AM5, then get the high end parts for it. When my 5950X becomes my old high end system it will make for an incredible spare. Upgrading every generation is a total waste usually, but I'm admittedly guilty of this when it comes to the AM4 platform, due to the huge gains each gen and the fact that I recycled the parts to family members. I feel pretty good with the 5950X. Before that I started with the 2600X then moved to the 3900X. I'll wait for the last generation of AM5 and Intel's next platform before I dare upgrade, maybe even just skip AM5 and intels next two sockets all-together.
@@pentaborg871 im in the same boat, im upgrading to the 13900k since im coming from a 3600 and before that it was a 7500, and after that im keeping the system for a bare minimum of 4 years, and if something is changed its likely anything else but the cpu and motherboard unless they are damaged. future proofing became a bit redundant with how powerful this chips are, and even with the gains that we are gonna keep getting, in real usage it's gonna translate to a few minutes less in renders/compiling, or more framerates when already in the range that surpasses the monitor refresh rate. With all the leaks that have been shown, intel is hoping on 3D chips and lga 2551 is allegedly gonna last at least 3 generations, so for people upgrading next year they will have even more options from both brands. if someone already own a 5950x, i really don't see the point of jumping into AM5 unless they really need those extra minutes or fps, i hate that mob mentality that you need to upgrade or ditch a platform because a new one is out, like if that chip becomes garbage when in reality it's gonna be more than enough for plenty of years, by the time im ready to upgrade again, am5 is likely in end of life along lga2551
The intro was absolutely insane as well 👀... And this review proves one thing for sure.. Intel is gonna be ruling the market until amd pulls something crazier out of thier sleeve
@@goregejones7248 First of all NO. Motherboards are pumping to much voltage into them stock. Manual overclocking has resulting in lower temps in a ton of benchmarks. And why are you crying about power? Sound like some amd fanboy whos angry his 7700x got destroyed.
@@4gbmeans4gb61 who's crying , you with Pentium should not talk about this 🌝, and also power matters, a lot of mid range pc builders, thinks of efficient pc, if you include any GPU from rtx 40 series both cpu and GPU is power hungry, so we need more 1000w psu, most mid range pc builders won't go for that kind of power supply, if it is i7 or i9 it's different cause in high end no one cares about power only performance
Thank you for always highlighting how good and useful Intel QuickSync is in their iGPUs. Very few channel mention this very important and useful feature.
The IGPU is great in this thing. I used it for streaming on twitch and the vod came out perfectly. No need to put extra strain on your cpu or gpu, even with nvenc; let them handle your applications and the little UHD770 will happily sit in its corner and encode everything no problem. I did a 720p stream (cause not affiliate), 6kbps, perfect video quality, playing flight simulator. No dropped frames, no juttering, no nothing. A few degrees warmer, but I run a fan curve and we're talking mid-60s up to low 70s, so no problem.
@Deadeye313 Yes but igpu isn't needed, things like streaming is what the ecores are great for, no performance hit, they'll take care of it. Ofc as u implied the igpu is like an order of magnitude more efficient and in some programs it'll give a 10-15% performance bump like in Photoshop, but in streaming it's not needed. Esp where I'm from, it was like 10% more expensive compared to the usual 2-5%, but if you can get it for the latter price increase, then it's fs worth it.
@@dave6800 i like also having the redundancy of a second gpu just in case something happens to the main gpu like it fails or bad drivers come out or something.
Great video, only one thing (that was present also in the 13900k review) you report a 10nm node for intel while it is technically wrong. I understand that Intel 7 was 10nm and they just renamed it, but the point of the new name being Intel 7 is to indicate that is comparable to TSMC N7 (7nm) node, so the two nodes are more or less equivalent.
@@zimtak6418 Intel should have just renamed the nm instead of coming up with this confusing naming scheme. Its so weird when you see 10nm and then Intel 7, then in the future 7nm and it being referred to as Intel 4.
It's my favourite CPU this generation. Better and cheaper than 12th gen i7 and a better all-rounder than the AMD offerings. It's also slightly cheaper than some older AMD offerings e.g. the 5900X.
From what I have seen, the 13600k seems to be the ideal gaming CPU after you have tuned it. Saw people doing an all core OC at 5.6ghz with decent cooling. If intel wanted to target gamers they need to release a higher binned 13600 or 700k that will boost all P cores to 5.6ghz, but leave E cores at stock. An 8 P core cpu with max all core boost would compete against any zen43D CPUs in gaming.
Building a 13600k upgrade right now, CPU for $280, using a $180 Tomahawk mobo B760 wifi, 64gb DDR5 ram for $190 and a $50 cooler (Scythe Fuma 3). Looking forward to seeing how it goes, and happy to see prices have improved significantly since this video.
⚠️ Huge red flags for intel 🚩 1. Huge power consumption 2. Poor 10 nm node instead of 5 nm. 3. Only 20 cpu pcie lanes 4. No AVX512 support Why this world is not perfect? Even in 2022 the computer hardwares are not consumer friendly.
Not to worry, the 13700K is more than impressive! Overall it is just more performance across the board. Both are great but long term the 13700K will just last longer... I just got mine a couple of days ago and it just blitzs through my work loads. Cinebench R23 out of the box stock settings hit 30K and on a 360mm AIO never went over 78 degrees C with an all P core at 5.3GGHz and E cores at 4.2GHz...with a small overclock to 5.5GHz all core it hit a 30700 score with temps in the mid 80's...playing around with a negative offset to vcore right now and I am sure there will be a nice sweet spot for performance to efficiency..
great vid. looking forward to see an update on a budget PC build for creators, including new version of photoshop and lightroom. With the new AI technology included, not sure if the processor can handle it, or a dedicated GPU will be mandatory....
I never do major upgrades like that in life. The 13600k will see you out many years. I've got a rig with the i5-750 onboard and it's still perfectly adequate for some things.
Hell yeah I just ordered the i5 13600kf and a z790 mobo with 6400 ram coming from a i7 9700 non k . Ppl say why get these chips when it’s the end of the line for these chips but who cares ? Idk anyone who upgrades their cpu every single generation lmao I’ll have this cpu for many years ! Can’t wait such a great chip for the price oh man I’m stoked ! And once you undervolt it sheeeesh much more efficient I think imma try and run it at 1.2 and see if I can increase my p cores too 5.4 from what I’ve seen everyone on RUclips has done way better but I’d be real happy with just that I’m not trying to compete with ppl lol
Also they announced 14th gen so this isn’t the end of the line and they said it’s a little bit better but mostly same performance just much less power usage and less temps for the same power .
AMD has to introduce a new model something like 7650x with similar pricing as 13600K with 12 core 24t also do similar change for ryzen 7, 9 to break the back of intel. The zen 4 single core peformance is amazing. only thing its lacking is the muti core performance which is mainly due to high core count of intel. Let see how AMD responds
Hey. 2 questions before I buy new components :) 1. Is it worth to buy z790 when we don't have a plan to OC? B660 instead will be fine? 2. I have GPU (for now GTX650 Ti) so i there any difference in creator use between k vs kf version? Any benefit giving for us having integrated gpu along with normal GPU?
Yea if AMD used that naming scheme and reduced the prices by 100 in each tier, then it would be a much more even line-up. AMD's own marketing is actually hurting them here.
Thanks for the video. Stunning content here. As a professional photographer running a small wedding ph. business and working on 6000+ photos in LR a week, I find your videos the best on youtube from a creative point of view. Prices here in Italy are steeper, but I think next month I will go for a 13600k build. Since I have to assemble a whole new machine, do you think is better to stick with z690+ddr4 or z690+ddr5? And, since I'm on a tight budget, a used 2060 12GB could be fine for my editing needs?
It's amazing what Intel has done, not only to squeeze ahead of AMD, but to spank it's proverbial butt. Now we sit back and wait to see what optimizations updates will make to these charts. For def, for right now, It's Intel all the way..... BTW great intro. Keep up the great work.
Can you do a all in cost video for your subscribers who don't own a single piece of computer equipment ? I like that 1500 dollar build you did but what monitor , programs , and any other bits gonna cost to get it running and usable ?
The 13600K looks really interesting price performance wise, even more so when you consider it can still make use of cheaper DDR4. But I wonder how the cost of operating in a 24/7 scenario (my main computer is always on) between the 13600K and the new 7600 on 65W TDP. I get there is computing gain to be had with the i5. But i'm not doing much video editing (certainly not for work), so the encoding advantage is wasted for me. The power usage is double or triple on the 13600K compared with 7600. So my main usage is DAW (Ableton and Maschine) and play Cities Skylines (which is mainly CPU heavy, single-thread heavy). And I'll be using the iGPU for the first 6 months, until I see some lower prices on the RTX 3070/3080's (or whatever is a sensible choice by then). Would the 13600K still be a good choice in such use case, considering the cost of purchase vs cost of operating?
No, you're wrong. TDP doesn't mean anything - forget about it. Go look up idle wattage. If you are just chilling with a bunch of tabs open and a youtube vid playing at 1080p... maybe excel or something open you will probably be using around 10% cpu usage. Intel KILLS AMD in terms of idle power consumption. Also it's easier to lower the clock speed on Intel when you don't need the power. AMD with the chiplet design makes it impossible to limit idle power draw because of constant communication of cpu and ram and the i/o die. Ryzen box design of the snake eating its own tail is appropriate imagery for the endless burning of energy. I only game 10% of the time, and it's easy enough to cap voltage and clock speed so the CPU doesn't run at max during gaming. (The only thing that makes me sad is going with Intel here is going to finally force me to leave Win 7 since I'm not willing to use modded drivers on my daily computer.)
@@raincatchfire You're still using windows 7. That's my favorite os, but it's pretty unsafe nowadays. It's probably good that you're switching before it becomes too outdated.
The 6w iddle wattage on the 13600K but it still eaches 180 watts during maximum performance (ie gaming and video editing) vs the 130 watts of the 7600X. It's still a lot. Oh, and the 7600X idle wattage is only 18w.
It's just plain simple facts. AMD can not compete with Intel in the midrange unless they drop prices. And it's showing Raptor Lake i5 and i7 are selling well while stores can get rid of the 7600X and 7700X
The 13600k seems better than the 12th gen i7. You'd have to decide if the 13th gen i7 was worth it or not, but the i9 remains bonkers overkill for the majority of people.
Not really! The 12600K is still a great CPU but if you are upgrading, go 13600K as it is really a 12700K on steroids! Not far off a 12900K in some cases and if you go Z690 D4 motherboard you can reuse your DDR4 ram like I have so saved quite a bit of money...PS I wouldn't contact that response as it could be a scam...
I will wait for X670 to came down in price and i will buy next gen ryzen or 7000X3D series for my next build. I will use my Ryzen 5 3600 and X570 for another 2 years minimum. Now the prices are very out of range in my oppinion.
This is what I been saying, Start up RUclipsrs/twitch streamers this is the cpu of your dreams. Great gaming and workload performance for just $300. This CPU beats the 5900x in everything, and that's a 12 core cpu
@@Anukinihun Yep this thing blows away the 12th gen i7 even. People say "but you need more cores for streaming and video editing" and so on. The average RUclips content creator isn't making Toy Story 5, they are usually cutting together simple clips and graphical animations - and were also doing that YEARS ago on hardware which is miles behind what's available now. Same goes for streaming.
Hey @technotice Love your videos, can you do a how to overclock the 13600k step by step plz I am a first time pc builder and i got the 13600k and want to try to oc without breaking stuff and i trust you the most with that knowledge
Can you compare the 13600k vs 12900k? There was a few videos online but not for creating. I think if someone was trying to save a few dollars but still get great performance; it maybe better to use the 13600k vs 12th gen.
It's not necessary until it is. When you think of it as a fail-safe. You can start to see the benefit and the extra cost is worth it. The iGPU is actually used together with your gpu in some apps.
I've ordered everything except for the psu - both links show out of stock for the psu for the i5 build - do you have another alternative? And the NIVDIA GPU - $$$ BESTBUY has it under $1k - hasn't NIVDIA had some quality issues?
Please let know if I have misunderstood this video. My takeaway is that we can run the i5-13600K processor with a higher-end air cooler. Is that correct? Yes or No. Please answer this question. Thanks in advance.
Hey man, I've been following you for awhile now, and have been molding my newest build based on yours and your reviews. I do want to ask though, what are some good coolers for the 13600k? I'm eyeballing the Glacier, and man, $180 for a cooler is pushing it for me.. would the 240mm variant work as well? I'll be doing a good amount of video editing, gaming, and music production on it, not really EXCLUSIVELY video editing.
@@theTechNotice awesome, I'd been looking into the Arctic Liquid series but the radiator width is FAR too big for my case. The Glacier looks like a solid rad for my use case. Are there any others I should consider? I also checked out the Galahad but that's another expensive component
These are not apples to apples comparisons anymore since the 13600k has more cores now than the 12600k. The i5 13600k is now like the previous gen i7, but still labeled as just i5.
amd is done for this generation, never forget that what you're getting with 13600k is basically a 7600x AND a 7700k~ 8 cores cpu working TOGETHER, that is absurd, not only that but with more flexibility (ddr4&5) thunderbolt support and much cheaper platform. imo any content creator must get this chip and they can easily overlap the lifespan of the whole am5 platform. and as someone from third world country, you guys have no idea about the availability of intel vs amd chips. intel chips are ALWAYS on the shelves. and with the thread director of windows 11, this is killing 7600x and 7700x together.
Uhhh no, it's not like having a 7600x and 7700x it's like having a 7600x with 8 kindergarten cores with no multi threading and lower clock speed / cache which is why it doesn't beat a 7900x even though it has more cores
i have a question, what about a multitasking? Like i5 perform on one Software, but if we have chrome.. photoshop open in the same time After effect, what's CPU is better? I saw the i5 13600k have a same perf as 7600X in game, but the CPU USAGE is 15% less on AMD... So intel need 15% more usage for the same perf... is this impact the multi tasking ?
I think if it’s Windows 11, they made a task scheduler optimised for intel. the intel Keynote showed off this multitasking where the e cores take over the background tasks and the best cores are automatically used where you need it most
⚠️ Huge red flags for intel 🚩 1. Huge power consumption 2. Poor 10 nm node instead of 5 nm. 3. Only 20 cpu pcie lanes 4. No AVX512 support Why this world is not perfect? Even in 2022 the computer hardwares are not consumer friendly.
@@Almighty_Flat_Earth What applications use avx512? I’m not sure anyone uses it, and i heard when it’s enabled it lowers the performance of the cpu, but i’m no expert. and why does it matter what node it’s on if it’s performing better than 5nm cpu’s?
@@Almighty_Flat_Earth And yet it still outperforms the 7600X across the board, heck it out performs the 7700X. In terms of efficiency it is more than fine unless you disable all the limits but stock it is more than impressive especially for most productivity workloads. And I wouldn't say 148w vs 120w is huge power consumption! I would say we are very lucky right now to have proper competition as both AMD and Intel are producing excellent CPU's and we have a proper choice. No choice is wrong just whatever suits your use case. On Intel the option to re use DDR4 and quicksync is nice bonus and for AMD a long lived platform is a huge plus..swings and round abouts and hopefully they go at each other like this for many years to come as we will be the winners.
100%. I appreciate this channel and all the work that goes into providing such good support and information. However, the Gigabyte X570S AORUS Elite AX is $200 at Microcenter right now. That's a $458 difference in system cost that completely skews the data in an unfavorable way to the 5900x. I wish he would address this. Seems to me dude is smart. He must know this.
I'm gathering parts to build a PC using the Gigabyte Z690 AERO G DDR4, an i5-13600K, and 64GB DDR4 RAM. You mentioned the memory controller specs for DDR5, yet I've read that the new Raptor Lake processor specs show it can run DDR4 RAM up to only 3200. Will the faster (3600) RAM make any difference in performance, or should I buy the slightly cheaper 3200 devices? I'm planning to buy two 32K sticks, so I could upgrade to 128GB (4 sticks) some day.
I am going to build a pc for gf (creator) thinking about 13600k, but got a problem with motherboard, want to build an itx pc, which itx mobo would you recommend for this procesor for using blender etc, the cpu cooler will be kraken x63
One big question both processors Ryzen 9 5900x and 13600k are same price in my country (arround 300euros) and i need processor who can handle best streaming performance on twich 1080p 60fps, i have good GPU so i need just good processor so....what is better for streaming?
LOL, i bought 4 sticks of 5600 xmp 32gb sticks, and now they will run @ 4000, yeah, ive read about it. But i was like, well i am going to run into having to little ram down the line 10 years from now, so i should better put it in. I am glad that i did exactly that with 16gb of ram in my 10 year old pc now. It still runs everything. :) Greetings, Jeff
IDK - I see that it really adds up - and basically you where right about bugs on the 13th gens - but If I can get it up and running and it works for internet, YT, FB - then that will buy me time for the bugs to get worked out - since I'm not using the computer for money making
😂I have so many projects I need to complete and that one has been on the back burner - I'm using my laptop for now and it's for business - the tower is just for fun and it will eventually get finished maybe after I go fishing or finish my modifications to my race bike
Can we get a timeline performance of this chip? These benchmarks are cool, but this doesn't tell us how it handles the codecs. I'd much prefer to see if it can handle 6K RAW than see the cinebench score
@@theTechNotice thank you!!! I'm debating on whether that or the 13700k would be better for me. Also if possible, benchmarks with ddr4 vs ddr5 unless it's not much different
Well, the tables have turned!. Previously, AMD had to resort to more cores and threads to get the performance. But now Intel is doing it!. Even with older 10nm process technology.
Hi. I am planning to use 13600K but should I change my PSU. Currently my set up is 5600X, 3060 twin edge, Deepcool AK620, PSU Bequiet 600W system power 9
you might have had better performances with 3600mhz cl14 ram on the 5900x, having a 1:1 or 2:1 ratio with the infinity fabric is better than more speed also the advantage of the 5900x is that you can just put it in any am4 motherboard, so one could upgrade from a 1700x or 2700, and you can get it running on sub200 motherboard
Do you think that this 13600k could be good for a gpu less build for photo editing and light 4k video editing without many effects and so. I do 80% photo 20% video.
I like the caption. Ask the same question 4 generations of Intel chips from now when I5 17600k has 30 overall cores I7 17700k has 32 overall cores I9 17900k has 56 overall cores I'll leave you to figure out the thread count
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Do you think i5 13600k is worth the price or would you rather go with Ryzen? 🤔🤔
Poor + want performance = Ryzen
Not poor + want performance = i
i5 is better
@@DeltaGamingOfficialYt what ? ryzen is the much much much more expensive option here
@@thepunic5261 jk xd
i5 id definitely worth the price
I edit wedding photos. That means that I edit somewhere around 600 photos per wedding. I use a program like Lightroom, but I don't use Lightroom. This is because though Lightroom exports photos about 3x faster than the software that I use, it actively edits photos somewhat slower. Speed editing photos is very important when you are doing 600 photos at a time. If it takes you just one minute per to edit 600 photos, you are spending 10 hours editing. I can always do something else when my photos are exporting, like watching RUclips videos such as this one. Multi core export time takes a distant backseat when you are editing photos in either Photoshop, Lightroom, or the editing program that I use. Multi core export time is almost meaningless to someone doing photography. Load time for photos and editing time mean a lot. I am seriously looking at the 12600k for my next computer.
Go with 13600k it would be a great deal
I5 13500 is almost same but cheaper
I have heard that. However I have a 12600k and nothing is cheaper than something that you already have. Something that you already have is free.@@0yebsdk
Well said
It really helps to see these comparisons with real-world applications as opposed to synthetic benchmarks.
L2 cache on 13600k is the secret weapon.
The 13600k is an absolute haymaker from Intel. I really want to go for Ryzen so I can keep the same motherboard for an upgrade in a few years but i just don’t know if I can justify the cost
You'll be thanking yourself when you upgrade in a few years. Also I'm pretty skeptical of the results from this channel, I would recommend the highly reputable Toms Hardware. TechPowerUp, AnandTech and Guru3D are also good.
If you don't upgrade every new chip gen, this cpu is a little monster, GN, Tom's hardware, etc. show the same results, it tends to be faster in MT than the 7700x while being 120usd cheaper, and makes both the 7600x and 7700x look like terrible value with the promise of future proofing.
In both cases you save about the same amount of money, intel 600 motherboards are quite noticeable cheaper than amd's, and with the high cost you would be paying for an overpriced chip like all zen4 besides the 7950x and their motherboards, you can simply spend the saved money later on if you want to change chip again.
@@ishiddddd4783 Oh yea, don't get me wrong one bit, 13600K is really awesome for the price! I'll recommend either the 5800X3D or 13600K to ANYONE that needs to build a reasonably priced system right now, depending on their use case and budget. 5800X3D has got the gaming big time and fairly alright productivity on a cheaper platform, and 13600K has got the productivity but still pretty solid gaming experience.
As for myself, What I plan on doing is waiting for the end of a platform, such as Intels next socket or AM5, then get the high end parts for it. When my 5950X becomes my old high end system it will make for an incredible spare. Upgrading every generation is a total waste usually, but I'm admittedly guilty of this when it comes to the AM4 platform, due to the huge gains each gen and the fact that I recycled the parts to family members. I feel pretty good with the 5950X. Before that I started with the 2600X then moved to the 3900X. I'll wait for the last generation of AM5 and Intel's next platform before I dare upgrade, maybe even just skip AM5 and intels next two sockets all-together.
@@pentaborg871 im in the same boat, im upgrading to the 13900k since im coming from a 3600 and before that it was a 7500, and after that im keeping the system for a bare minimum of 4 years, and if something is changed its likely anything else but the cpu and motherboard unless they are damaged.
future proofing became a bit redundant with how powerful this chips are, and even with the gains that we are gonna keep getting, in real usage it's gonna translate to a few minutes less in renders/compiling, or more framerates when already in the range that surpasses the monitor refresh rate.
With all the leaks that have been shown, intel is hoping on 3D chips and lga 2551 is allegedly gonna last at least 3 generations, so for people upgrading next year they will have even more options from both brands.
if someone already own a 5950x, i really don't see the point of jumping into AM5 unless they really need those extra minutes or fps, i hate that mob mentality that you need to upgrade or ditch a platform because a new one is out, like if that chip becomes garbage when in reality it's gonna be more than enough for plenty of years, by the time im ready to upgrade again, am5 is likely in end of life along lga2551
more like a heavy punch connected but without thinking for the next 11 rounds.
The intro was absolutely insane as well 👀... And this review proves one thing for sure.. Intel is gonna be ruling the market until amd pulls something crazier out of thier sleeve
Ordered mine on launch day upgrading from my tired and dusty R7 1700, and I am just here for the confirmation and gratification😁
Exactly the video I was looking for. Thank you. Going to make my order soon
the 13600k can actually OC to 5.6GHZ all core out of the box
I’ve seen someone did 5.9 for 2 core and 5.7 for the rest. With good silicon, might even peak 6.0 ghz
First of all its pulling more power and high temp, if you oc it will get even high
@@goregejones7248 First of all NO. Motherboards are pumping to much voltage into them stock. Manual overclocking has resulting in lower temps in a ton of benchmarks. And why are you crying about power? Sound like some amd fanboy whos angry his 7700x got destroyed.
@@4gbmeans4gb61 who's crying , you with Pentium should not talk about this 🌝, and also power matters, a lot of mid range pc builders, thinks of efficient pc, if you include any GPU from rtx 40 series both cpu and GPU is power hungry, so we need more 1000w psu, most mid range pc builders won't go for that kind of power supply, if it is i7 or i9 it's different cause in high end no one cares about power only performance
@@goregejones7248 TLDR, cry more kid.
Thank you for always highlighting how good and useful Intel QuickSync is in their iGPUs. Very few channel mention this very important and useful feature.
The IGPU is great in this thing. I used it for streaming on twitch and the vod came out perfectly. No need to put extra strain on your cpu or gpu, even with nvenc; let them handle your applications and the little UHD770 will happily sit in its corner and encode everything no problem.
I did a 720p stream (cause not affiliate), 6kbps, perfect video quality, playing flight simulator. No dropped frames, no juttering, no nothing. A few degrees warmer, but I run a fan curve and we're talking mid-60s up to low 70s, so no problem.
@Deadeye313 Yes but igpu isn't needed, things like streaming is what the ecores are great for, no performance hit, they'll take care of it. Ofc as u implied the igpu is like an order of magnitude more efficient and in some programs it'll give a 10-15% performance bump like in Photoshop, but in streaming it's not needed. Esp where I'm from, it was like 10% more expensive compared to the usual 2-5%, but if you can get it for the latter price increase, then it's fs worth it.
@@dave6800 i like also having the redundancy of a second gpu just in case something happens to the main gpu like it fails or bad drivers come out or something.
@Deadeye313 yeah that's the classic use, glorified display adapter 😂
Great video, only one thing (that was present also in the 13900k review) you report a 10nm node for intel while it is technically wrong. I understand that Intel 7 was 10nm and they just renamed it, but the point of the new name being Intel 7 is to indicate that is comparable to TSMC N7 (7nm) node, so the two nodes are more or less equivalent.
Actually "Intel 7" is the rename of their improved 10nm+ node, and that is somewhat more comparable to TSMC's 6nm.
@@zimtak6418 yes, that is why its was renamed intel7. It should not be referred to as 10nm.
@@zimtak6418 Intel should have just renamed the nm instead of coming up with this confusing naming scheme. Its so weird when you see 10nm and then Intel 7, then in the future 7nm and it being referred to as Intel 4.
@@mastroitek Yeah but programs such as CPU-Z still refer to Raptor Lake as "10nm".
In terms of power efficiency it's not comparable, so it's valid to still call it 10nm imo.
13600k is the best value intel since the sandybridge days (i5 2500k)
It's my favourite CPU this generation. Better and cheaper than 12th gen i7 and a better all-rounder than the AMD offerings. It's also slightly cheaper than some older AMD offerings e.g. the 5900X.
Not if you're already sitting on an am4 MB.
From what I have seen, the 13600k seems to be the ideal gaming CPU after you have tuned it. Saw people doing an all core OC at 5.6ghz with decent cooling. If intel wanted to target gamers they need to release a higher binned 13600 or 700k that will boost all P cores to 5.6ghz, but leave E cores at stock. An 8 P core cpu with max all core boost would compete against any zen43D CPUs in gaming.
Yeah that's why the 13900k / 14900k / ks chips get so close to the x3d chips in gaming, the clock speeds are just insane
Can't wait for my 64 core i5!
Lol
That processor it´s so good! When are you going to do a review of the new i7-13700k? Love your contet, super clean and simple :) Cheers from Portugal
It's filmed just being edited now.
@@theTechNotice Wow! Nice! Have a nice day
Building a 13600k upgrade right now, CPU for $280, using a $180 Tomahawk mobo B760 wifi, 64gb DDR5 ram for $190 and a $50 cooler (Scythe Fuma 3). Looking forward to seeing how it goes, and happy to see prices have improved significantly since this video.
great video👍 i ordered 13700k, now i am looking forward how it will perform, because i looks that i could have saved some bucks and went to 13600k...
same....13600k is THE processor...but adding 2 more p-cores for $100 isnt a bad move
@@michaelmcconnell7302 that is true👍 i still need to remember that 8p core were what i was looking for, because this 13600k just looks amazing...
@@airsoftfantom 6 p-cores for ~$300, 8 p-cores for ~$400... seems fair. e-cores are a bonus 🥸
⚠️ Huge red flags for intel 🚩
1. Huge power consumption
2. Poor 10 nm node instead of 5 nm.
3. Only 20 cpu pcie lanes
4. No AVX512 support
Why this world is not perfect? Even in 2022 the computer hardwares are not consumer friendly.
Not to worry, the 13700K is more than impressive! Overall it is just more performance across the board. Both are great but long term the 13700K will just last longer... I just got mine a couple of days ago and it just blitzs through my work loads. Cinebench R23 out of the box stock settings hit 30K and on a 360mm AIO never went over 78 degrees C with an all P core at 5.3GGHz and E cores at 4.2GHz...with a small overclock to 5.5GHz all core it hit a 30700 score with temps in the mid 80's...playing around with a negative offset to vcore right now and I am sure there will be a nice sweet spot for performance to efficiency..
Just bought a i5 13600k for $283.55USD + Z690 Mobo for $125 USD on Neweggs Black Friday. Gonna be a solid upgrade from my ol' 8700k.^
Monster update, i updated from 9700K
everyone is asleep on the i5 13th gen but imo this is the one to get if you are a gamer.
I just built a new i5 rig for 780 bucks.
Gotta be honest the 13600k looks great, i not gonna lie. The more expensive ones use too much power and are really hard to cool.
I heard 13400 will also have E-cores (4 of them) . That will be a better deal and more suitable for gaming.
Love the intro! Building my first pc with 13600KF.
Use 13600k
I got the kf coming from a 9700 i7 it slaps cheeeeks !!! Lmao this thing is insane !
It’s paired with my Rx 6800
@@mickeyriola9087 I'm waiting for my 7900xtx hellhound to arrive. Snatched it from Amazon for $889.00 plus taxes.
Want a i7 video too
great vid. looking forward to see an update on a budget PC build for creators, including new version of photoshop and lightroom. With the new AI technology included, not sure if the processor can handle it, or a dedicated GPU will be mandatory....
The motherboards for 5900x is cheaper than all the other motherboards. What happens here?
Thank you so much for this! I hope you make a build guide for creators for the 13th Gen!
Okay - so I'm sold on this build - going for it
Im going for I5 13600K cuz I usually upgrade my CPU once in every 5 years
I never do major upgrades like that in life. The 13600k will see you out many years.
I've got a rig with the i5-750 onboard and it's still perfectly adequate for some things.
Or fx-8350 decided to try Intel this time around
Hell yeah I just ordered the i5 13600kf and a z790 mobo with 6400 ram coming from a i7 9700 non k . Ppl say why get these chips when it’s the end of the line for these chips but who cares ? Idk anyone who upgrades their cpu every single generation lmao I’ll have this cpu for many years ! Can’t wait such a great chip for the price oh man I’m stoked ! And once you undervolt it sheeeesh much more efficient I think imma try and run it at 1.2 and see if I can increase my p cores too 5.4 from what I’ve seen everyone on RUclips has done way better but I’d be real happy with just that I’m not trying to compete with ppl lol
Also they announced 14th gen so this isn’t the end of the line and they said it’s a little bit better but mostly same performance just much less power usage and less temps for the same power .
Love to see benchmarks from that i5 13600k paired with the 140$ Intel Arc A380 with the AV1 encoder for a budget build.
I wonder how the i5 13600k would do compared to the i7 12700k since they are in the same price range ?!?!?!
Interesting point!
The 13600K seems to be a 12700K on steroids! and in some cases closes on the 12900K...
waited for this video for a long time
You're making the best videos for content creators man. Love this channel.
I appreciate that!
@@theTechNotice much love brother.
AMD has to introduce a new model something like 7650x with similar pricing as 13600K with 12 core 24t also do similar change for ryzen 7, 9 to break the back of intel. The zen 4 single core peformance is amazing. only thing its lacking is the muti core performance which is mainly due to high core count of intel. Let see how AMD responds
amd wont respond to it and u r just an amd fanboy
@@ItsDeeno69How
Hey. 2 questions before I buy new components :)
1. Is it worth to buy z790 when we don't have a plan to OC? B660 instead will be fine?
2. I have GPU (for now GTX650 Ti) so i there any difference in creator use between k vs kf version? Any benefit giving for us having integrated gpu along with normal GPU?
The iGPU is a huge thing for creators. Have a look st my iGPU vs dGPU video! :)
And b660 will be fine.
Omg I freaking love the intro! Huge huge huge Dark Knight fan
Loved the intro 🤣
What makes these products better or worse than the 2900ks you mentioned in other videos for video creators or workstations?
insane intro bro u been killing it !
AMD should have used now this naming:
6 core --> R3
8 core --> R5
12 core --> R7
16 core --> R9
Agree!
Yea if AMD used that naming scheme and reduced the prices by 100 in each tier, then it would be a much more even line-up. AMD's own marketing is actually hurting them here.
Epic intro
14700K LEEEZZZZGOOOOOO
Thanks for the video. Stunning content here. As a professional photographer running a small wedding ph. business and working on 6000+ photos in LR a week, I find your videos the best on youtube from a creative point of view. Prices here in Italy are steeper, but I think next month I will go for a 13600k build. Since I have to assemble a whole new machine, do you think is better to stick with z690+ddr4 or z690+ddr5? And, since I'm on a tight budget, a used 2060 12GB could be fine for my editing needs?
It's amazing what Intel has done, not only to squeeze ahead of AMD, but to spank it's proverbial butt.
Now we sit back and wait to see what optimizations updates will make to these charts.
For def, for right now, It's Intel all the way.....
BTW great intro. Keep up the great work.
excellent video, can you test the 13600k with 65w power limit?
The price of motherboard for 5900x is not right. Only for rare expensive models of x570 is this price.
that beginning was hilarious
Can you do a all in cost video for your subscribers who don't own a single piece of computer equipment ? I like that 1500 dollar build you did but what monitor , programs , and any other bits gonna cost to get it running and usable ?
Great idea!
The 13600K looks really interesting price performance wise, even more so when you consider it can still make use of cheaper DDR4. But I wonder how the cost of operating in a 24/7 scenario (my main computer is always on) between the 13600K and the new 7600 on 65W TDP. I get there is computing gain to be had with the i5. But i'm not doing much video editing (certainly not for work), so the encoding advantage is wasted for me. The power usage is double or triple on the 13600K compared with 7600.
So my main usage is DAW (Ableton and Maschine) and play Cities Skylines (which is mainly CPU heavy, single-thread heavy). And I'll be using the iGPU for the first 6 months, until I see some lower prices on the RTX 3070/3080's (or whatever is a sensible choice by then). Would the 13600K still be a good choice in such use case, considering the cost of purchase vs cost of operating?
No, you're wrong. TDP doesn't mean anything - forget about it. Go look up idle wattage. If you are just chilling with a bunch of tabs open and a youtube vid playing at 1080p... maybe excel or something open you will probably be using around 10% cpu usage. Intel KILLS AMD in terms of idle power consumption. Also it's easier to lower the clock speed on Intel when you don't need the power. AMD with the chiplet design makes it impossible to limit idle power draw because of constant communication of cpu and ram and the i/o die. Ryzen box design of the snake eating its own tail is appropriate imagery for the endless burning of energy. I only game 10% of the time, and it's easy enough to cap voltage and clock speed so the CPU doesn't run at max during gaming. (The only thing that makes me sad is going with Intel here is going to finally force me to leave Win 7 since I'm not willing to use modded drivers on my daily computer.)
@@raincatchfire You're still using windows 7. That's my favorite os, but it's pretty unsafe nowadays. It's probably good that you're switching before it becomes too outdated.
The 6w iddle wattage on the 13600K but it still eaches 180 watts during maximum performance (ie gaming and video editing) vs the 130 watts of the 7600X. It's still a lot. Oh, and the 7600X idle wattage is only 18w.
It's just plain simple facts. AMD can not compete with Intel in the midrange unless they drop prices. And it's showing Raptor Lake i5 and i7 are selling well while stores can get rid of the 7600X and 7700X
The 13600k seems better than the 12th gen i7. You'd have to decide if the 13th gen i7 was worth it or not, but the i9 remains bonkers overkill for the majority of people.
do you think i5 12600k is still worth buying? Thank you
Not really! The 12600K is still a great CPU but if you are upgrading, go 13600K as it is really a 12700K on steroids! Not far off a 12900K in some cases and if you go Z690 D4 motherboard you can reuse your DDR4 ram like I have so saved quite a bit of money...PS I wouldn't contact that response as it could be a scam...
Absolutely.
I will wait for X670 to came down in price and i will buy next gen ryzen or 7000X3D series for my next build. I will use my Ryzen 5 3600 and X570 for another 2 years minimum. Now the prices are very out of range in my oppinion.
I don't think new creators should go more than 13600k
This is what I been saying, Start up RUclipsrs/twitch streamers this is the cpu of your dreams. Great gaming and workload performance for just $300. This CPU beats the 5900x in everything, and that's a 12 core cpu
@@Anukinihun Yep this thing blows away the 12th gen i7 even.
People say "but you need more cores for streaming and video editing" and so on. The average RUclips content creator isn't making Toy Story 5, they are usually cutting together simple clips and graphical animations - and were also doing that YEARS ago on hardware which is miles behind what's available now. Same goes for streaming.
Hey @technotice Love your videos, can you do a how to overclock the 13600k step by step plz I am a first time pc builder and i got the 13600k and want to try to oc without breaking stuff and i trust you the most with that knowledge
Can you compare the 13600k vs 12900k? There was a few videos online but not for creating. I think if someone was trying to save a few dollars but still get great performance; it maybe better to use the 13600k vs 12th gen.
From my point of view: Go with gen 13. 13600k it`s better than 12700k and you just needed in the past 12900k if you do multitasking.
Personaly went with 13600KF cause igpu is unnecessary but it's good cpu with room for other upgrades
It's not necessary until it is.
When you think of it as a fail-safe. You can start to see the benefit and the extra cost is worth it.
The iGPU is actually used together with your gpu in some apps.
Im not keen on that background music. At times it's a bit loud.
Nice to see Intel back in form.
I've ordered everything except for the psu - both links show out of stock for the psu for the i5 build - do you have another alternative? And the NIVDIA GPU - $$$ BESTBUY has it under $1k - hasn't NIVDIA had some quality issues?
Please let know if I have misunderstood this video. My takeaway is that we can run the i5-13600K processor with a higher-end air cooler. Is that correct? Yes or No. Please answer this question. Thanks in advance.
yes, and even mid tier air cooler :)
Hey man, I've been following you for awhile now, and have been molding my newest build based on yours and your reviews. I do want to ask though, what are some good coolers for the 13600k? I'm eyeballing the Glacier, and man, $180 for a cooler is pushing it for me.. would the 240mm variant work as well? I'll be doing a good amount of video editing, gaming, and music production on it, not really EXCLUSIVELY video editing.
Yeah, it Rutland be good for sure.
@@theTechNotice awesome, I'd been looking into the Arctic Liquid series but the radiator width is FAR too big for my case. The Glacier looks like a solid rad for my use case. Are there any others I should consider? I also checked out the Galahad but that's another expensive component
13600k vs 12700
Which can i choose bro
With msi b660 mortar max
Please help me
These are not apples to apples comparisons anymore since the 13600k has more cores now than the 12600k. The i5 13600k is now like the previous gen i7, but still labeled as just i5.
but we r paying about the same price for the 13600k comparison to 12600k
its just i5 12600k = R5 7600x and its with the motherbord and the ram 100 dollar expensiver
amd is done for this generation, never forget that what you're getting with 13600k is basically a 7600x AND a 7700k~ 8 cores cpu working TOGETHER, that is absurd, not only that but with more flexibility (ddr4&5) thunderbolt support and much cheaper platform. imo any content creator must get this chip and they can easily overlap the lifespan of the whole am5 platform.
and as someone from third world country, you guys have no idea about the availability of intel vs amd chips. intel chips are ALWAYS on the shelves. and with the thread director of windows 11, this is killing 7600x and 7700x together.
How so? What's the cheapest MB for Intel, you can get a B550 for $88 for the 5900x.
Uhhh no, it's not like having a 7600x and 7700x it's like having a 7600x with 8 kindergarten cores with no multi threading and lower clock speed / cache which is why it doesn't beat a 7900x even though it has more cores
Another interesting point is the motherboard. I want a mini itx build, would the asus rige strix B660i be a good choice for the 13600k?
Yeah
i have this cpu, Intel convinced me with that product.
What if u had highlighted all the fonts 😢
i have a question, what about a multitasking? Like i5 perform on one Software, but if we have chrome.. photoshop open in the same time After effect, what's CPU is better?
I saw the i5 13600k have a same perf as 7600X in game, but the CPU USAGE is 15% less on AMD... So intel need 15% more usage for the same perf... is this impact the multi tasking ?
I think if it’s Windows 11, they made a task scheduler optimised for intel. the intel Keynote showed off this multitasking where the e cores take over the background tasks and the best cores are automatically used where you need it most
⚠️ Huge red flags for intel 🚩
1. Huge power consumption
2. Poor 10 nm node instead of 5 nm.
3. Only 20 cpu pcie lanes
4. No AVX512 support
Why this world is not perfect? Even in 2022 the computer hardwares are not consumer friendly.
@@Almighty_Flat_Earth What applications use avx512? I’m not sure anyone uses it, and i heard when it’s enabled it lowers the performance of the cpu, but i’m no expert. and why does it matter what node it’s on if it’s performing better than 5nm cpu’s?
@@Almighty_Flat_Earth And yet it still outperforms the 7600X across the board, heck it out performs the 7700X. In terms of efficiency it is more than fine unless you disable all the limits but stock it is more than impressive especially for most productivity workloads. And I wouldn't say 148w vs 120w is huge power consumption! I would say we are very lucky right now to have proper competition as both AMD and Intel are producing excellent CPU's and we have a proper choice. No choice is wrong just whatever suits your use case. On Intel the option to re use DDR4 and quicksync is nice bonus and for AMD a long lived platform is a huge plus..swings and round abouts and hopefully they go at each other like this for many years to come as we will be the winners.
That platform cost imo is not realistic. Who on earth would buy a 650 dollar am4 mb at this point for a 5900x???
100%. I appreciate this channel and all the work that goes into providing such good support and information. However, the Gigabyte X570S AORUS Elite AX is $200 at Microcenter right now. That's a $458 difference in system cost that completely skews the data in an unfavorable way to the 5900x. I wish he would address this. Seems to me dude is smart. He must know this.
I'm gathering parts to build a PC using the Gigabyte Z690 AERO G DDR4, an i5-13600K, and 64GB DDR4 RAM. You mentioned the memory controller specs for DDR5, yet I've read that the new Raptor Lake processor specs show it can run DDR4 RAM up to only 3200. Will the faster (3600) RAM make any difference in performance, or should I buy the slightly cheaper 3200 devices? I'm planning to buy two 32K sticks, so I could upgrade to 128GB (4 sticks) some day.
I too have the same query?
13600KF in B760 DDR5 vs Z690 DDR4 OC which one is faster and better for value?
i5 13600K vs i9 12900K, which one would you buy for Premiere Pro if they both are for the same price?
12900k
I've been reading the blogs on the Asus 1690 MB - users have been posting problems with the Bio's and drivers - what have you to say?
I am going to build a pc for gf (creator) thinking about 13600k, but got a problem with motherboard, want to build an itx pc, which itx mobo would you recommend for this procesor for using blender etc, the cpu cooler will be kraken x63
Sir thank you
Hi! Do you think a Noctua NH-D12L is sufficient to cool this CPU or should I look to get an AIO?
it is
does this mean gen 12 will disappear from the market,????
Oh no, 12th gen will be a great bang for the buck option! :)
FINALLY!!
One big question both processors Ryzen 9 5900x and 13600k are same price in my country (arround 300euros) and i need processor who can handle best streaming performance on twich 1080p 60fps, i have good GPU so i need just good processor so....what is better for streaming?
Hi. Is it possible to use 13600k WITHOUT GPU even in system? For Davinci resolve etc. PC build without GPU could save many bucks lol.
LOL, i bought 4 sticks of 5600 xmp 32gb sticks, and now they will run @ 4000, yeah, ive read about it. But i was like, well i am going to run into having to little ram down the line 10 years from now, so i should better put it in. I am glad that i did exactly that with 16gb of ram in my 10 year old pc now. It still runs everything. :)
Greetings,
Jeff
5:04 red color text on blue background, absolute nonsense, unable to read the red text, same for the entire video, you ruined this video
Please choose colors w more contrast vs background. A good rule in general but believe.
my guy got the intro straight from LinusTechTips XDDDDD
LOL
IDK - I see that it really adds up - and basically you where right about bugs on the 13th gens - but If I can get it up and running and it works for internet, YT, FB - then that will buy me time for the bugs to get worked out - since I'm not using the computer for money making
Sounds like you don't really do anything with your computer.
😂I have so many projects I need to complete and that one has been on the back burner - I'm using my laptop for now and it's for business - the tower is just for fun and it will eventually get finished maybe after I go fishing or finish my modifications to my race bike
Would this processor be fine for architecture visualization in unreal engine 5?
Can you please tell Which cpu is good for music production i5 13600k or amd ryzen 5 7600x ?..
I'd get the 13600k :)
Can we get a timeline performance of this chip? These benchmarks are cool, but this doesn't tell us how it handles the codecs. I'd much prefer to see if it can handle 6K RAW than see the cinebench score
OK, let's do it! I'll put it I'm the 'to film' queue. :)
@@theTechNotice thank you!!! I'm debating on whether that or the 13700k would be better for me.
Also if possible, benchmarks with ddr4 vs ddr5 unless it's not much different
is it possible in using all the 14 core of the i5 13600k and if not should I get the r9 5900x with a b550-f strix or and intel 12th gen
Well, the tables have turned!. Previously, AMD had to resort to more cores and threads to get the performance. But now Intel is doing it!. Even with older 10nm process technology.
Hi. I am planning to use 13600K but should I change my PSU.
Currently my set up is 5600X, 3060 twin edge, Deepcool AK620, PSU Bequiet 600W system power 9
depends ok graphicscars otherwiese 600watts its easy
you might have had better performances with 3600mhz cl14 ram on the 5900x, having a 1:1 or 2:1 ratio with the infinity fabric is better than more speed
also the advantage of the 5900x is that you can just put it in any am4 motherboard, so one could upgrade from a 1700x or 2700, and you can get it running on sub200 motherboard
Do you think that this 13600k could be good for a gpu less build for photo editing and light 4k video editing without many effects and so.
I do 80% photo 20% video.
Yes
The way he said his sponsor 🤣🤣
13600K would be a great choice if socket wasn't effectively dead already.
You should have gone with the lowest motherboard prices because my motherboard was like a $108 for my 5900x.
Why is using a near 700 dollar mobo for the 5900x???
How fast can 4 x8 DDR4 stick run on z690 with the 13600k?
I sill have a doubt that how it performs in unreal engine 5 becoz it depends on CPU threads does any one know?
For pure gaming, AMD CPUs (and GPUs) tend to have an edge but for balanced gaming-productivity, Intel CPUs are the way to go.
I like the caption. Ask the same question 4 generations of Intel chips from now when
I5 17600k has 30 overall cores
I7 17700k has 32 overall cores
I9 17900k has 56 overall cores
I'll leave you to figure out the thread count