This is actually excellent news. Been planning to get the 13600k for a while now, so the price cut (if retailers actually decide to lower the price of gen. 13) is awesome!
Microcenter had the 13600k on sale for $250 the weekend the 7800X3D came out. Microcenter also had (and occasionally still offers) a $25 off 1cpu per household. So I was able to pick one up this year for $225 + tax and a drive to microcenter. Hope this helps you gauge good deals in your area.
I was more interested in the 14500 or 14400 for this generation for a barebones Asrock deskmeet b660. I was also hoping they would make the 14100 a 4p + 4e core configuration and finally ditch the 4 core entry chip.
Was thinking of possibly doing the 14700k, but after these reviews I think I will stick with the 13700k and hopefully get some of those saving (if the price drops).
in my opinion, I think the 18th gen would be the perfect time to upgrade or less depending on the circumstances even then your 12900K would still be good right now a lot of people don't understand how powerful are the 8th to 10th gen CPUs to 12th gen CPU people who have gotten addicted to upgrading sometimes when it's not even necessary or maybe because I am not yet in that level, right now I am using an i5 2400 paired with 16 GB RAM 240SSD with no dedicated GPU because GPUs are too expensive and have no issues, of course, I can't do much heavy video editing or animating or any other heavy program but good enough for what I do and it does it very well with modern software and tools I only upgraded to 16GB ram from 8GB DDR 3 and I have seen noticeable improvements in building a complex web application, for my next upgrade I am eyeing at the 13th gen probably an i5 or i7 or equvalent AMD counterparts paired with RTX 4080 if possible then stick to that until it can't anymore lmo people at the comments wanting to upgrade from 12th gen to 14th gen or 11th gen when it's not even necessary btw I would have upgraded a long time ago probably a 10th to 12gen or just an office desktop and upgraded into a gaming one but it's just that PC hardware is way too expensive it's just ridiculous especially if you live in a third-world country where prices for this hardware are equivalent to first world nation prices but low wages and very high taxes paying $300 for i5 13600K is like paying $900 or more just for a CPU alone 😔
Too bad. I was hoping to see an IPC improvement greater than just a few percent. I was hoping to upgrade my main system to a 14700K and move my current CPU into my VM/NAS homelab box. I think I'm instead just going to wait for 14th gen to push 13th gen prices down a bit and maybe get a 13500 for the homelab system and keep my main system as is.
Im currently running the i9 13900 KS in my PC build and the M1 pro in my Mac build. :) Im almost happy about them not making it much faster with the 14th gen versions..
@@baekmedier there is not. its raptor lake just like 13th gen. 13900ks is higher binned than 14900k, so if one wants max overclocks 13900ks is still better. 14900k has on average bit better silicon quality than 13900k (not 13900ks).
Coming from a 12600K, I was expecting this to come down to a difference in price. But seeing how close performance is between the two gens, I'm not even sure I'd need 14th gen. The meaningful uplift clearly happens between 12th and 13th. I was eyeing the 13- or 14700K/KF as a replacement, but I think I'll stick with a 600-series CPU for now. Don't want to have to upgrade my 240mm Lian Li AiO which is just over a year old. Anyway: Currently I could get a 13600 KF for around €310 while the 14600KF is €318. With that small of a price difference, I don't see any reason not to go "14th" gen. Already checked my motherboard's specs and apparently it does support 14th as well as 13th gen. I should probably wait a bit to see if 13th gen prices will drop a bit more, but I reckon there's probably a lot of folks like me out there hoping for the same thing. And seeing how there's very little difference in performance between 13 and 14, I doubt 13 prices will fall dramatically.
cheaper ? are you drunk? in my country because of the weak performance of the 14th gen Intel. the prices of 13th gen Intel and AMD have gone up ~ (Ryzen 7000 series increase $30+ 🗿)
The only question that keeps going through my mind is: What if Intel did want to upgrade the dye and socket, but they were unable to get the supply and had to decide to, at least for the sake of new numbers, bring out the 14th series as consumers expect.
I think it also has a lot of security fixes as well, which I can tell you - you are going to NEED. Things that prevent people interfering with your PC and the flow of data without you knowing. Parts sourced out of Communist China with any luck are coming from Malay and Taiwan instead.
For as long as there has been information on 14th nd 15th gen 14th was always going to be socket 1700 and 15th will be an updated (possibly 1851) socket for Arrow Lake.
Guess i made a good choice buying the i17 13700k at 390€ last week (which is around 340£ i guess?) I knew the 14700k was coming with 4 more eCores but since i'm on a budget I'm so glad I bought it!
Ill take the price cuts of the 13600k, though I am holding my horses on that, until they actually set in. If they set in, I will probably upgrade my 12400.
in short buy 13th gen, this new gen is a waste of time its basically the same using the same power virtually same performance but costs more, I dont understand the point of it
Not so sure, the only upgrade would be the Intel XE core utility, getting a 12600k sooner than later! I got an A750 gpu in spare!bought a 11600k for my nephew for his upgrade from I5 7600!the 13th gen still runs hot with semi expensive cpu coolers, not at least the power draw!
14700k is the only one that interesting but even it mught be the second choice behind a 13900k if they are priced closely. They didn't even give use 6 core 14100... this whole stack is a waste of marketing.
@@johnbernhardtsen3008 Yeah... even if they made the 14100 4p4e for under 130 usd they'd own the budget market but I guess they want to squeeze every cent out of the market
I bought a 10105f cpu for my nephew this summer, he hates it, I build a 5 3600 gaming set up im writing from, everything about it is rgb, except the 1660ti gpu!now I have to pull the trigger on a cheap 12500 with a b760 mobo and fast ram for less than 650 dollars! so I can utilize the A750 gpu properly!@@SpoonHurler7
Given that the 13600k will happily run at 5.8GHz all P cores, at fixed frequency i suspect that the 14600k is equally capable. Maybe Intel should have called the latest generation 13600k Super? Whatever still a solid CPU, and if it means a price drop for the 13600k then go buy one.
@@unimpressively_charming yeah there are a few eshops here with the 13gen prices slightly lower than usual and the major shops have the 14gen slightly cheaper than 13th, but I was lucky to got my 14700K even cheaper than the cheapest local 13700K offer ever
If " a750 and rtx 3050 is the same prize..which one is good choice considering cuda cores, driver optimization,future supports etc. I will do graphics disign using photoshop,illustrator,maya,blender,3ds max... And gunnir or intel which one will better for arc a750? Thanks.
En resumen el 14600k es como un "13600KS", osea le añadieron un poco más de frecuencia (100-200MHz) y ya está luego es prácticamente todo lo mismo, pero es bueno en cierta parte por el precio que practicamente los mismo que la 13Gen
I am running a Thermalright Peerless Assassin (I bought for 35 USD) overclocked to 5.5 all p-core and 4.2 all e-core on my 13600k right now. Temps in the 60s while gaming and never goes over 85 C. Not sure where you are getting your info from.
That intro was hilarious. I'll be sticking with my 13700k, not that I was expecting to upgrade. That said I get that Intel probably thought they had to bring out something but this is even more disappointing than Sapphire Rapids.
I have a 13600K and upgraded to a 14700K. I'm able to sell my 13600K to offset the cost so it was a good upgrade for me. I set up a quick initial OC up to 4.7P/4.4E at 1.32V and get 37837/2247 score in CB23 and in CB24 2145/134. Nice boost for all of 2 minutes of work in the bios. Overall I'm happy with the upgrade and games feel so much smoother and higher FPS.
@@chukutribeyou should wait for 15th gen. It will be a generation leap and you will get in on the beginning of a new board platform. Or simply wait till 15th gen drops the prices of 12th-14th. The 15 gen i9 is expected to have 40 cores 8p + 32e.
im on a b660m gonna snag a 14500 i5 and just chill with a 360mm aio man no need for OC so a non k chip is decent for me and 48gb ddr4 3200mhz with rx6800
My 13600kf will pull well over 200 Watts at 5.5.5GHz +. Transistor density is slightly higher on Intel's 10nm than TSMC's 7nm, those terms are marketing speak baloney.
I was planning to get 13600k for 380€ ( included 25% tax ). Should I invest in 14700k for 580€, or get even cheaper 7600 for 260€ ( + wait for 8000 series ) ? Planning to keep FHD 1080p 24.5"inch 144Hz monitor for another year. Gpu that I will use most likely gonna be used 3060 12GB + 32GB RAM.
All good choices but I personally wouldn't pick an expensive cpu to pair it with a 3060. Gpu lke a 4070 would be a better combo with a cheaper cpu. Even the 7600 is a very nice one..just buy good 6ghz memory for it.
I can’t get it, I’m using i9 12900 KS and I can’t get cinebench r23 multicore as 27,000 pts around. The more I can get is around 25,000 pts. Please help me.
Am too late here. Please help me choose between 7600x or 13600k.. Currently using 3600x with 64 gb ddr4 ram. Should i upgrade to 7600x or 7700x? Considering the cost coz i already have ddr 4 sticks so should i upgrade to i5? Pc mostly used for 3d rendering and some casual gaming.
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Man, you nailed the intro, really well done!-
:)
Bro lucky I got waterproof keyboard is all I will say!
It was the two-caps flexing :D Lol make me laugh again thinking it over !
13600KS 😂 Let's go
This is actually excellent news. Been planning to get the 13600k for a while now, so the price cut (if retailers actually decide to lower the price of gen. 13) is awesome!
Hopefully
Microcenter had the 13600k on sale for $250 the weekend the 7800X3D came out. Microcenter also had (and occasionally still offers) a $25 off 1cpu per household. So I was able to pick one up this year for $225 + tax and a drive to microcenter.
Hope this helps you gauge good deals in your area.
@@_B.C_ Dang that is a good deal, lucky you : )
There's not a mictocenter near me, the cheapest 13600k where I live is about 340€ : /
instead of lowering prices.
in my country
Most retailers actually increase the price of the 13th Gen Intel ~
🤣🤣
In Asia right?@@penonton4260
I was more interested in the 14500 or 14400 for this generation for a barebones Asrock deskmeet b660. I was also hoping they would make the 14100 a 4p + 4e core configuration and finally ditch the 4 core entry chip.
Was thinking of possibly doing the 14700k, but after these reviews I think I will stick with the 13700k and hopefully get some of those saving (if the price drops).
looks like the 14700K is starting to drop. newegg has it for a lower price than the 13700K.
@@JayzBeerz proabably because they know peolpe don't want to update their MB's yet
Not gonnna lie Best Intro Ever, epic meme merch plug, love it.
Please do more 😜
I pre ordered the 14700k yesterday! I got it for $419.99
one cent away man
@@SpoonHurler so sad
Think I'll probably just wait for 15th gen to upgrade from my 12900KS.
Me too
in my opinion, I think the 18th gen would be the perfect time to upgrade or less depending on the circumstances even then your 12900K would still be good right now a lot of people don't understand how powerful are the 8th to 10th gen CPUs to 12th gen CPU people who have gotten addicted to upgrading sometimes when it's not even necessary or maybe because I am not yet in that level, right now I am using an i5 2400 paired with 16 GB RAM
240SSD with no dedicated GPU because GPUs are too expensive and have no issues, of course, I can't do much heavy video editing or animating or any other heavy program but good enough for what I do and it does it very well with modern software and tools I only upgraded to 16GB ram from 8GB DDR 3 and I have seen noticeable improvements in building a complex web application, for my next upgrade I am eyeing at the 13th gen probably an i5 or i7 or equvalent AMD counterparts paired with RTX 4080 if possible then stick to that until it can't anymore lmo people at the comments wanting to upgrade from 12th gen to 14th gen or 11th gen when it's not even necessary
btw I would have upgraded a long time ago probably a 10th to 12gen or just an office desktop and upgraded into a gaming one but it's just that PC hardware is way too expensive it's just ridiculous especially if you live in a third-world country where prices for this hardware are equivalent to first world nation prices but low wages and very high taxes paying $300 for i5 13600K is like paying $900 or more just for a CPU alone 😔
intel gen 15 will be gen 13+++++++ they are once again stuck in the loop
Too bad. I was hoping to see an IPC improvement greater than just a few percent. I was hoping to upgrade my main system to a 14700K and move my current CPU into my VM/NAS homelab box. I think I'm instead just going to wait for 14th gen to push 13th gen prices down a bit and maybe get a 13500 for the homelab system and keep my main system as is.
Very nice intro! 😁
:)
Love the two sides of you!. Yes, it DOES!.
Im currently running the i9 13900 KS in my PC build and the M1 pro in my Mac build. :) Im almost happy about them not making it much faster with the 14th gen versions..
haha
As a 13900k owner is support your standpoint 😁
@@groenevinger3893 they look almost the same i Think… but surely there must be some sort of benefit of the new 14th gen.
@@baekmedier there is not. its raptor lake just like 13th gen. 13900ks is higher binned than 14900k, so if one wants max overclocks 13900ks is still better. 14900k has on average bit better silicon quality than 13900k (not 13900ks).
Funny intro. Keep winning those Oscars for "best body double" etc.
Coming from a 12600K, I was expecting this to come down to a difference in price. But seeing how close performance is between the two gens, I'm not even sure I'd need 14th gen. The meaningful uplift clearly happens between 12th and 13th.
I was eyeing the 13- or 14700K/KF as a replacement, but I think I'll stick with a 600-series CPU for now. Don't want to have to upgrade my 240mm Lian Li AiO which is just over a year old. Anyway: Currently I could get a 13600 KF for around €310 while the 14600KF is €318. With that small of a price difference, I don't see any reason not to go "14th" gen. Already checked my motherboard's specs and apparently it does support 14th as well as 13th gen. I should probably wait a bit to see if 13th gen prices will drop a bit more, but I reckon there's probably a lot of folks like me out there hoping for the same thing. And seeing how there's very little difference in performance between 13 and 14, I doubt 13 prices will fall dramatically.
exact same story but only coming from i5-8500xddddd
Th eone thing I like abour 14th gen is that 13th gen would be cheaper sooner, hopefully to the point where i7 13th gen could fit on my budget
cheaper ?
are you drunk?
in my country because of the weak performance of the 14th gen Intel.
the prices of 13th gen Intel and AMD have gone up ~ (Ryzen 7000 series increase $30+ 🗿)
The only question that keeps going through my mind is: What if Intel did want to upgrade the dye and socket, but they were unable to get the supply and had to decide to, at least for the sake of new numbers, bring out the 14th series as consumers expect.
That mindset is what allowed AMD to capture so much market share in the past.
I think it also has a lot of security fixes as well, which I can tell you - you are going to NEED. Things that prevent people interfering with your PC and the flow of data without you knowing. Parts sourced out of Communist China with any luck are coming from Malay and Taiwan instead.
For as long as there has been information on 14th nd 15th gen 14th was always going to be socket 1700 and 15th will be an updated (possibly 1851) socket for Arrow Lake.
Blasted my ears off with that intro.
Guess i made a good choice buying the i17 13700k at 390€ last week (which is around 340£ i guess?)
I knew the 14700k was coming with 4 more eCores but since i'm on a budget I'm so glad I bought it!
Haha best intro so far 😂
Ill take the price cuts of the 13600k, though I am holding my horses on that, until they actually set in. If they set in, I will probably upgrade my 12400.
Upon further inspection looks like i7 13700k is still top pick 🤷♂️
in short buy 13th gen, this new gen is a waste of time its basically the same using the same power virtually same performance but costs more, I dont understand the point of it
Not so sure, the only upgrade would be the Intel XE core utility, getting a 12600k sooner than later! I got an A750 gpu in spare!bought a 11600k for my nephew for his upgrade from I5 7600!the 13th gen still runs hot with semi expensive cpu coolers, not at least the power draw!
14700k is the only one that interesting but even it mught be the second choice behind a 13900k if they are priced closely. They didn't even give use 6 core 14100... this whole stack is a waste of marketing.
wut?another 4core waste?if they even bothered making their smallest cpu 6 cores, they would dominate the gaming market! @@SpoonHurler
@@johnbernhardtsen3008 Yeah... even if they made the 14100 4p4e for under 130 usd they'd own the budget market but I guess they want to squeeze every cent out of the market
I bought a 10105f cpu for my nephew this summer, he hates it, I build a 5 3600 gaming set up im writing from, everything about it is rgb, except the 1660ti gpu!now I have to pull the trigger on a cheap 12500 with a b760 mobo and fast ram for less than 650 dollars! so I can utilize the A750 gpu properly!@@SpoonHurler7
Currently on a 12900, not the K version. Wondering if I should get the 14900K instead of a 13900K… hmmmmmm
If you want to pay more towards the power bill for similar performance, yes.
waiting for the 14700k video ;)
Shame on intel that the performance gain is so small, 12th, 13th, 14th gen improvement so little.
This was a very helpful video. Regarding the half empty glass, or is it half full? Perhaps the glass is twice as big as it needs to be...
yeeeeah
What does he mean by "Pifoamance"?
Ooof.. I'm early af 😳.
lol
in the future, should we expect a comparison of the i7-14700k and i7-14700?
Will buy the 13700k for shure
Given that the 13600k will happily run at 5.8GHz all P cores, at fixed frequency i suspect that the 14600k is equally capable. Maybe Intel should have called the latest generation 13600k Super? Whatever still a solid CPU, and if it means a price drop for the 13600k then go buy one.
the 13th gen is not getting any cheaper yet here :(
@@unimpressively_charming yeah there are a few eshops here with the 13gen prices slightly lower than usual and the major shops have the 14gen slightly cheaper than 13th, but I was lucky to got my 14700K even cheaper than the cheapest local 13700K offer ever
If " a750 and rtx 3050 is the same prize..which one is good choice considering cuda cores, driver optimization,future supports etc. I will do graphics disign using photoshop,illustrator,maya,blender,3ds max...
And gunnir or intel which one will better for arc a750?
Thanks.
That's a different room sir!
This is CONTRADICTIONS, you want ARGUMENTS down the hall, 2nd door on the right.
;) Such a funny start.
LOL and the two caps :D Brill
lol!
En resumen el 14600k es como un "13600KS", osea le añadieron un poco más de frecuencia (100-200MHz) y ya está luego es prácticamente todo lo mismo, pero es bueno en cierta parte por el precio que practicamente los mismo que la 13Gen
Can the 14600K be air cooled?? The 13600K definitely cannot...
Both can be!
@@theTechNotice
Oh! My bad!! Thank you for the info 😊
I am running a Thermalright Peerless Assassin (I bought for 35 USD) overclocked to 5.5 all p-core and 4.2 all e-core on my 13600k right now. Temps in the 60s while gaming and never goes over 85 C. Not sure where you are getting your info from.
@@SpoonHurler
As I said, my bad. Thank you ever so much for your long reply!!
I'm running an air cooler with an 13600k and it doesn't pass over 75 ºC, that said, I did undervolt it but without losing performance to be fair.
Thanxxxx
hahahaha lol nice intro. Love it! 🤣🤣
Thanks!
Thank yoU!
That intro was hilarious. I'll be sticking with my 13700k, not that I was expecting to upgrade. That said I get that Intel probably thought they had to bring out something but this is even more disappointing than Sapphire Rapids.
God bless you my bro amd 9000 better really blow it away still on a 3900x ir else im going intel ny next build 14600k or 14700k
The one to get it’s the 14700k
I have a 13600K and upgraded to a 14700K. I'm able to sell my 13600K to offset the cost so it was a good upgrade for me.
I set up a quick initial OC up to 4.7P/4.4E at 1.32V and get 37837/2247 score in CB23 and in CB24 2145/134.
Nice boost for all of 2 minutes of work in the bios.
Overall I'm happy with the upgrade and games feel so much smoother and higher FPS.
@unimpressively_charming MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI DDR5. Used it from a 12400F to a 13600K and now the 14700K. Great, reliable board.
Isn't the 14600K just an overclocked 13600K ?
@@unimpressively_charming I just wonder if we can get the 14600K perfs with a 13600K overclocked to 14600K power consumption.
I'd really like to see a 14700k review and comparison from you
Working on it!
guessing 14700k is 13700ks?🤨 can’t wait for the reviews so I can make my first pc cpu decision
actually the 14700k is 13900k, that's the only interesting CPU :)
@@theTechNotice 😮💨💪NOICE! Hopefully thermals are better.
@@chukutribeyou should wait for 15th gen. It will be a generation leap and you will get in on the beginning of a new board platform. Or simply wait till 15th gen drops the prices of 12th-14th. The 15 gen i9 is expected to have 40 cores 8p + 32e.
@@_B.C_ if I had a pc already I would but I need one asap for content creation etc.
I have the intel i5 14th generation 14500 but what’s the difference between me and the 14600? Thanks
im on a b660m gonna snag a 14500 i5 and just chill with a 360mm aio man no need for OC so a non k chip is decent for me and 48gb ddr4 3200mhz with rx6800
Last upgrade for 600/700 series board
The link for the ram is the same as the motherboard
My 13600kf will pull well over 200 Watts at 5.5.5GHz +. Transistor density is slightly higher on Intel's 10nm than TSMC's 7nm, those terms are marketing speak baloney.
could the 14600k work on a B760M PG LIGHTNING WIFI ?
Do i need cpu frame for 14th gen?
But we knew this a year ago dude. It’s just a refresh. 😂
so we see if 14900 KS can surprise
can you run this cpu with a air cooler like the dark assassin 4 from deepcool?
Yes
is the core i5 12600k outdated and lagging behind..?
12600k won't be lagging in the next 10 years with that " upgrades " rate
Didn’t they say they gonn rid of the i5, i7, i9 branding?
they are moving to "ultra" branding with the next socket... hopefully 15th gen for desktop but who knows at this point.
Yeah next gen.
I was planning to get 13600k for 380€ ( included 25% tax ). Should I invest in 14700k for 580€, or get even cheaper 7600 for 260€ ( + wait for 8000 series ) ? Planning to keep FHD 1080p 24.5"inch 144Hz monitor for another year. Gpu that I will use most likely gonna be used 3060 12GB + 32GB RAM.
All good choices but I personally wouldn't pick an expensive cpu to pair it with a 3060. Gpu lke a 4070 would be a better combo with a cheaper cpu. Even the 7600 is a very nice one..just buy good 6ghz memory for it.
Gaming?
remember.
Raptor lake and meteor lake is alder lake refresh with extra E Core ~ 🤣🤣
Raptor lake = Alder Lake 1.0
Meteor lake = Alder Lake 2.0
You could have said, "Nothing to see here. Move along." and save us 24 minutes. This is the 11 gen all over again.
14th Gen lol not so much just a refresh of the 13th Gan
Does this have av1 encoding built on integrated graphics ?
yes
@@JayzBeerz thanks, also is intel av1 encoding better than amd and nvidia ?
@@And-vx6ry use an intel cpu with a nvidia gpu for best performance for content creators.
No AV1 encoding on the iGPU!
doesnt matter if you have rtx 40 series gpu, they have 1 encoder
I can’t get it, I’m using i9 12900 KS and I can’t get cinebench r23 multicore as 27,000 pts around. The more I can get is around 25,000 pts. Please help me.
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intel gen 15 will be gen 13+++++++ they are once again stuck in the loop
Sadly the imc is exactly the same check frame chasers video on the 14900k
RIP Intel
Am too late here. Please help me choose between 7600x or 13600k.. Currently using 3600x with 64 gb ddr4 ram.
Should i upgrade to 7600x or 7700x? Considering the cost coz i already have ddr 4 sticks so should i upgrade to i5?
Pc mostly used for 3d rendering and some casual gaming.