I upgraded from a i5 4690K to the 13600K and oh boy.. U can imagine how was i tripping about the boost it gave me, its so enjoyable to be on the pc now.
I've been configuring my new build for a few weeks now and this has put a spanner in the works. The 12600k was the part I was most sure about given performance to price. Now I'm tempted by this!
Thank you for reviewing the 13600K first. I don't understand why everyone reviews the 13900K first when the 13600K is going to outsell the 13900K by a large margin.
@@bogodoyandex9654 Yes, I understand most people review flagship products first, that's basically what I said. What I question is why reviewers do that when flagship products generally sell far less than the mid range products.
@@madarasoun3018 completely depends on the game you're playing and what settings you play at. Look at the GPU usage. If it's at 97%+ then you won't see that much of a gain. If it's 90 and below then you'll see a decent gain. 96% and below is a CPU bound but the lower the percentage is, the more a better CPU/ram kit will give a performance uplift.
@@t7274 I'm playing overwatch 2 every other days and triple A game like cyberpunk and red dead redemption 2 on on weekends. What can I expect from upgrading from 10700 to 13700k
Thank you for the great review. I appreciate your time. One suggestion for future CPU tests would be to include games which are actually almost always CPU bottlenecked. Speaking of simulations like Anno 1800, Factorio, Stellaris. You simply can't have enough CPU power in these games and I'm looking to upgrade because of sub 40 FPS in such games.
I'm building a PC, and I did exactly that, got a good deal on a Z690 minITX board, less than half the price of the new Z790s. Quick BIOS flash and perfect for the 13600k.
@@joestuehmer7967 most motherboards support that these days. You have to put the new bios on a formatted flash drive and plug it into a specific port. There is a button on the motherboard for it, and it will flash the bios without a cpu.
@@Szergej33 i did the same. Used USB stick (convert to fat32) than use Bios Flashback on motherboard, you dont even need RAM to do that. Just make sure your motherboard has this feature.
Thanks for showing tests I actually wanted to see, I don't care about 1080 benchmarks on low settings. I have a 12600k and game at 1440 and your testing shows it still holds it's own. Was a bit surprised how badly the 13600k beat it in Cinabench.
I’m definitely interested to see how things add up price to performance for someone to do an upgrade (motherboard, ram, and CPU) to ryzen 7000 vs 13th Gen. Out of the gate these things seem like little rippers - and the fact that they technically still support DDR4 (if I’m remembering right) is appealing to me entirely on the basis of spreading upgrade costs out over time.
sadly Ryzen still a better option in the long term ( while i love my AMD stuff ) i cant get past the both the board and the 13th will be boat anchors next year .. unless of course your happy to sit on the z690 and 13th for a few years then its a far cheaper option than Ryzen 7000 !! But I would be inclined to buy a ddr5 z690 if you plan on sitting on it for a few years !1
@@volvot6rdesignawd702 its not, zen 4 boards plus ddr5 eat at the price like crazy. Besides they only said they would garuntee support for 3 years. In 3 years so far they’ve only dropped 2 complete gens elephant in the room, the i5 is kicking the R7’s ass and nipping at the heels of the R9 in multithreading… for $300-330. Thats such a huge issue thats being ignored that vcache cant help at all. On top of that even with 3D vcache, what its not gonna actually make much of an improvement when frame rates are already absurdly high with these new CPUs to the point its a waste of money.
Upgrading to i5-13600K from i5-4670K, so yeah, I don't care much for platform related arguments. Using 0 parts from the old build, and will likely use 0 parts from the coming build in the next one.
I'm so tempted between the 13600K and the 13700K. Having two more cores would be nice and cooling wouldn't be much of a problem since I'm going to undervolt it anyway (see what der8auer has done with the 13900K) but 2 more cores doesn't look worth forking over an additional 120,- €. Ohh, the struggle of being an enthusiast...
Yea same issue here, torn between i5 and i7. 140$ difference in Canada , money is not an issue but I'll go with it I think. Just for gaming, i7 will not give anything extra , maybe 5 fps that I would never even notice. Plus runs cooler and less power draw!
Upgrading from 6th gen i7 6700k, just bought one today in ireland for €495!!..for the kf!!!..I'd love to see 1440p , 16gb dd4 ram and an RTX 2080ti benchmarks.
If you could add Assetto Corsa Competizione Ai race to you CPU test suite it would be great, you can't run a replay as replays don't use player physics for Ai cars but in a race the CPU load is huge as Ai use the same physics as players.
Haha I love the ending, I've been rocking my Core i5-8600k and GTX 1080ti Seahawk GPU for over 6 years now going on 7 and it still does great at 1440p resolution. I just want to go Ultra wide and the new I5-13600k is the perfect upgrade for 3440x1440p Ultrawide gaming that'll hopefully last me another 6-7 years! 🍻great review
I've just ordered an i5-13600KF build with 32 GB of DDR4 3600 memory and an ASUS Strix Z690 motherboard for my RTX 3080 as an upgrade from my current almost 10 year-old i7-4770K with 16 GB of DDR3 1600 memory. This is for 1440p gaming on a 27" G-SYNC display with games runing at maxed out settings with RT and DLSS, where available. As such, I'm a bit out of touch with what constitutes a CPU core these days because the i5-13600KF has 14 cores, right, split between 6 performance and 8 efficiency cores as I understand it with the former offering 2 threads per core and the latter a single thread per core for a total of 20 threads. So why is this considered a 6 core CPU in the review? What do the 8 efficiency cores do if they are not considered to be CPU cores? I looked at the i7-13700KF but for gaming at 1440p the i5-13600KF seemed to offer the best value for money by far, especially for the RTX 3080. I certainly will not be buying a 4090 or 4080, the latter of which costs £1,269 for the Founders Edition here in the UK with third-party models costing even more! For comparison, my RTX 3080 cost me 'just' (lol) £749 so the 4080 is almost double the price generation-on-generation which, in my opinion, is utterly absurd and not a pricing model I endorse or support personally.
Going from a amd ryzen 5 1600 to this intel i5 13600k. Paired with a new azus b660 motherboard with 32gb ddr4 ram 3200 and a rtx 3060ti I hope to get great gaming at budget cost.
If you look at it as a 6core performance (PLAY THE GAME) CPU + an (on-chip but separate) 8core efficiency (background tasks music, email, utube, updates etc etc) handling CPU then it all makes perfect sense. Not sure how Intel are marketing this chip but it makes so much sense for a modern gamer+. Oh and power consumption is not crazy in fact it's way lower than expected - on the other hand 13900 is CRAZY and given it's idle (which we know they never really are) draw is pretty much the peak draw of this processor is crazier still.
im still rocking a 6700k, it still does what i need it to do even though my system is 7 years old. But i do want a whole new system just because it would be nice to have.
Im getting ready to build my first pc in the next couple of months, and I'm going to get the KF variant. Based on what I've seen, it's a beast that outperforms the 12700kf for about the same price, while having lower temps and being more energy efficient. Hopefully, the price falls in the next few months.
@@iamyourunbiasedgod2022 I was gonna pair it with a 3080 or higher, but so much has changed in the last few months that I need to reconsider. I was hoping for Nvidia's 3000 series cards to drop in price, along with the 13th gen after launch, but they only went up. Not to mention that the z690 prices went up pretty significantly for some reason. The 4000 series cards also released, but the prices are crazy. On the AMD side, they had some serious price cuts on the CPU's, and the new 7000 series cards offer some pretty good competition.
"Shut up and let people like things" put a big smile on my face. That being said, I am one of those weirdos that upgrades every cycle. Sorry if I missed you mentioning it in the video but do you have a DDR4 motherboard to test DDR4 vs DDR5 performance on the 13600K?
I'm upgrading after 12 years lol. I still have my X58 v2 Motherboard, i7 960 clocked @ 4.0ghz, 20 GB ram, and a Bequiet 4 Pro air cooler. This is still my daily gaming PC and it's also my MAME ARCADE rig with a 2TB and 8TB HDD. Cinebench score is 3332. Im picking up the i5 13600k with the 2023 Z790 Rog Strix motherboard, and the X Trio 3080 ti. DDR5 5600mhz Ram, and Corsair water cooler.
why go with 5600mhz ram when you can get Samsung b-die for the same price for better performance? If your going DDR5 go with 7200mhz+, if not buy a ddr4 board
true that most reasonable people would upgrade 3 - 5 years. I recently upgraded my pc after 4 years and I'm seeing myself upgrading for the same amount of years or maybe more considering modern games nowadays required less specs from a PC compared to games that were made years ago and it will continue to do so.
Something to look into come tax season lol, I'm currently on a Z490 paired with a 10400, 3060Ti and 32GB of 3600 RAM. Also have a backup system that is a B450 paired with a 3200G, 980Ti and 16GB 3200 RAM.
i run a 7600x and a 13600k in 2 separate rigs and as far as 4k gaming there is basically no difference. BUT the 7600x makes my gaming room much less hot lol
Bro.. I am on my ivy bridge i7 3770 CPU with my shitty ASUS P8B75CSM chipset with Samsung EVO 840 & 860 SSDs since January 2013 and this System even after runnining between 75 - 98 Degrees C in the last 4 months due to my old cranky Heat sink without a Fan and constant System Freezes and shutdowns, is still kicking ass like it's day 1 of 2013. Now I will be upping my system to i5 13600K and already my CPU is on the way. But one thing is for sure, I am glad that I had my ivy bridge 3770 i7 being so loyal and durable all these years and finally I am willing to upgrade and yes I am a legend I know that. so Thank you. And yes I will see the amazing benefits from moving to 13th gen from 3rd gen.
@@ErrorInvalidName i also had a 3770K i loved it. Now i have a 13600k. I tried AMD for the first time in my life a 7900x Zen 4. Never again. Bios / Agesa issues, TPM issues, Memory controller issues. Over 90 degrees on gaming. wtf. no i have 54 degrees. never change a running system right ? Go Intel any day.
I dont get those benchmarks, unless your 12600k/12900k was on DDR4, the 13600k shouldnt outphase them that hard, hell 12900k should in theori be faster in all your gametests, something´s off here.
This is why the results are the way present is because the 13600K has some extra cache added (similar in specs to 12700K):- L1 = 24mb, L2 = 20 and L3 = 32mb 12600K :- L1 = 20MB, L2 = 9.5mb and L3 = 24mb (I think)
Good video, i'm building a pc with the 13600k and pair it with the Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX you reviewed. I think going with the midrange stuff is a good option as this CPU offers good value and performance. Sure it's not the fastest CPU, but building a midrange pc with components costs a lot less then it doesn't really matter about LGA socket cycle. I mean they all ready talking about M.2 PCie 5.0 SSD's with massive heat sinks, and only a few high end Z790 expensive boards that support them so even if they did go another cycle on the socket some of the features on the board will be out dated anyway with the next generation of M.2 PCie SSD's. And right now M.2 PCie 4.0 SSD's 1TB are a good bargain and fit most of the midrange boards like the Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX you reviewed.
thank you for this my brother, good to see some aussie representation when it comes to pc part videos and content ! Just a question to anyone that reads this.. I currently have an i5 8400 and it bottlenecks on everything so ive finally decided to build a new pc after 4 years lets gooo. Big question is cpu, i was thinking the 13600k since its $500aud for the kf version. But the real question is, this or another cpu? ill eventually get a 3080 (also want to try out ddr5) and I mainly game and produce music, but want to make more content down the line. So many new cpus and other products since I last built a pc so im still trying to catch up. any help would be great ty
I am planning to buy new processor this week (i am build a system from 0 on Z690 MB). I am choosing between i5 13600K and i7 13700K. My goal = playing games, run films, google etc.. I want to build a PC for a 4-5 years usage without platform change. What better for me to buy = i5 13600K or i7 13700K. The budget is not a problem, but I try to choose better variant for reasanable price, THANK YOU!
I was planning for upgrade to 5800x3d from my 6700k but I wasn't sure because of the production benchmarks. Now 13600k seems to be very close in gaming while faster in production workloads, should I buy this instead then?
@@cuongtang9539 Oh, didn't know ryzen is like that. Can you tell me what sort of instability users face and have you used one yourself? Also I'm getting a little tempted to get 13700k, what do you think? Is it worth getting 13700k or just 13600k?
Tbf re: platform longetivity, I like to start with the first gen CPUs and then end with a used chip from the final generation, so the same AM5 board will last me 10 years easily. 🤷🏿♂️ Only reason I'm not sticking with AM4 is that I wanna go ITX anyway.
I just upgraded from a ryzen 1700 to a 5600, and even if I appreciate the change, it's more because I wanted to offer myself a gift, and because I got it for a nice price, but I could have kept on with the 1700 for 3-4 more years without a sweat. The games that are that cpu intensive to require a change are not interesting games anyway, and although I want to play a lot with emulators, I am not willing to put that much money into ryzen 7000 for a computer that already ran really great with a 1700 and a vega 64 for 1440p high quality 60-120fps Just to say that indeed, people don't upgrade that often and don't need to, and even if the fact that a platform is dead is true, it doesn't stop it from working.
@Stein Mauer i had a 7900x with newest bios. i had problems like bootloop, TPM 2.0 not showing up in Windows (even activated in bios). Bios Flashback not working properly. you might think, this should be stable ? its not
Does the "6 core" chip matter when it out performs its competitors from this gen and also out performs even the last gens best chips? Guess that only matters if the competition is "How many cores does it have". Otherwise the p core e core design does exactly what it's supposed to. For 300 bucks which you can get it for on sale right now, it's the best chip for its price range. It outperforms the last gens most expensive chips and it's only like a 3% downgrade from the i7 pretty much making the i7 obsolete. If you really want a workstation bump with more cores then mght as well go for the I9 at that point. Im building another pc for the first time in like 7 years and i was ready to pull the trigger on an i7 11700k for 264 expecting 13th gen to be crazy pricey. For 36 dollars more the upgrade between those 2 is crazy. Glad I waited
i have an i5-13600kf and i just bought a ASRock Z690 STEEL LEGEND WIFI 6E/D5 LGA 1700 Intel Z690 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard so does it matter this is a z690 and not z790? am i losing out on performance or any real difference?
@Gear seekers, question from switzerland ☺️ do you recommend AMD or Intel for stability or less problems? i allways had intel, and never had a single problem, but wanna try AMD first time, appreciate your kind response
I bought a 4090 and a I5 13600k mainly for 4k gaming but also some 1440p high fps, I feel like I could've used the extra cores on the i7 for future proofing, any thoughts?
@@alvarobrufalgarcia86 I am probably going to get a 13600kf myself to replace my 9900kf, its an awesome cpu for the price without the insane power draw of the 13900k.
@@shadowprice8100 that is exactly what I thought, but i also though I could use a little extra power and cores for future proofing as this gen will be the last with the socket before I gotta get a motherboard. Thats why I strongly considered something better, just so it'll last a bit longer!
@@alvarobrufalgarcia86 Well i thought that too when i got my 9900kf years ago and i have watched many 6 cores easily surpass it in productivity and gaming... and with amd and intel constantly trading blows who knows if ill be amd or intel next time i upgrade? So it best to go the best value this time and then go best value again in the future besides, a 4090 can do 4k 120hz gaming! Thats going to work for a really long time!
Thanks for the video. Quite interested in the 13600. I'm currently running a bclk overclocked 12100f on the ASUS b660g mobo, runs at 5ghz. Waiting to see if the non K skus are bclk overclockable in 13th gen
thank you for the review, it looks like 13600K is a good CPU however Socket 1700 is the Dead End and there is no point buying 13gen when you can get Ryzen 7000 now and upgrade it later to Zen 5/6 also 7800X3D is coming in 2 months and will destroy any 13gen CPUs
what thermal paste and AIO good for i5 13600k ? because i have new I5 13600k + new AIO (arctic freezer II 280) my temp is 45 to 50 celcius "idle" sometime it will go to 60c while opening chrome then it will down to 45c. if i do cinebenchR23 10mins (multi core) 85c (already undervolted using cpu load lite mode 9)
@@cuongtang9539 with amd they not equal as they handle things differently. Also for gaming it’s not like your going to see a 100 fps difference maybe 10 15 frames at that
I upgraded from a i5 4690K to the 13600K and oh boy.. U can imagine how was i tripping about the boost it gave me, its so enjoyable to be on the pc now.
its a beast, i gave a offset of 105mv even better now
Excellent video! 13600K is a powerhouse! If I was a person that upgraded every year pretty sure it would be a worthy upgrade from my 12700K.
"Shut up and let people like things" is the quote of the day. You should have mugs printed with that, I'd buy one!
That's a fantastic idea! It's been a saying in our house for years now 😂😂
This is an old saying
I've been configuring my new build for a few weeks now and this has put a spanner in the works. The 12600k was the part I was most sure about given performance to price. Now I'm tempted by this!
EXACTLY same as me ,,, I will delay my build a month or two and wait for 13600k prices to stabilize
@@tilapiadave3234 I actually got fed up with waiting (we're always waiting otherwise) and pulled the trigger on a 12600kf/3080 rog strix 12gb combo
@@kevinb9830 EXCELLENT choices ,, wish I could afford a 3080 ,,, maybe next year the price will come down to my budget level.
Thank you for reviewing the 13600K first. I don't understand why everyone reviews the 13900K first when the 13600K is going to outsell the 13900K by a large margin.
they alway like this review flaship at first
@@bogodoyandex9654 Yes, I understand most people review flagship products first, that's basically what I said. What I question is why reviewers do that when flagship products generally sell far less than the mid range products.
Im still with my 10700k but recently got a 4090.
It seems like the 13600k would be a good upgrade to pair with the 4090.
Is it time to upgrade our 10700k already?
I'm still using 3070 ti. How much can I expect from 13700k in 1440p? 25% increase from 10700k?
@@madarasoun3018 completely depends on the game you're playing and what settings you play at. Look at the GPU usage. If it's at 97%+ then you won't see that much of a gain. If it's 90 and below then you'll see a decent gain. 96% and below is a CPU bound but the lower the percentage is, the more a better CPU/ram kit will give a performance uplift.
@@t7274 I'm playing overwatch 2 every other days and triple A game like cyberpunk and red dead redemption 2 on on weekends. What can I expect from upgrading from 10700 to 13700k
@@madarasoun3018 gotta look at the GPU usage my man. Use MSI afterburner overlay and tell me what the GPU usage is while playing.
Thank you for the great review. I appreciate your time.
One suggestion for future CPU tests would be to include games which are actually almost always CPU bottlenecked.
Speaking of simulations like Anno 1800, Factorio, Stellaris.
You simply can't have enough CPU power in these games and I'm looking to upgrade because of sub 40 FPS in such games.
I'm building a PC, and I did exactly that, got a good deal on a Z690 minITX board, less than half the price of the new Z790s. Quick BIOS flash and perfect for the 13600k.
How can you bios flash without a 12th gen cpu??
@@joestuehmer7967 most motherboards support that these days. You have to put the new bios on a formatted flash drive and plug it into a specific port. There is a button on the motherboard for it, and it will flash the bios without a cpu.
@@Szergej33 i did the same. Used USB stick (convert to fat32) than use Bios Flashback on motherboard, you dont even need RAM to do that. Just make sure your motherboard has this feature.
Thanks for showing tests I actually wanted to see, I don't care about 1080 benchmarks on low settings. I have a 12600k and game at 1440 and your testing shows it still holds it's own. Was a bit surprised how badly the 13600k beat it in Cinabench.
I’m definitely interested to see how things add up price to performance for someone to do an upgrade (motherboard, ram, and CPU) to ryzen 7000 vs 13th Gen. Out of the gate these things seem like little rippers - and the fact that they technically still support DDR4 (if I’m remembering right) is appealing to me entirely on the basis of spreading upgrade costs out over time.
sadly Ryzen still a better option in the long term ( while i love my AMD stuff ) i cant get past the both the board and the 13th will be boat anchors next year .. unless of course your happy to sit on the z690 and 13th for a few years then its a far cheaper option than Ryzen 7000 !!
But
I would be inclined to buy a ddr5 z690 if you plan on sitting on it for a few years !1
and two Mb options, backward compatible
the mobo's for 13th gen are on average $200 AUD cheaper than the ryzen 7000 boards are as of right now
@@volvot6rdesignawd702 its not, zen 4 boards plus ddr5 eat at the price like crazy. Besides they only said they would garuntee support for 3 years. In 3 years so far they’ve only dropped 2 complete gens elephant in the room, the i5 is kicking the R7’s ass and nipping at the heels of the R9 in multithreading… for $300-330. Thats such a huge issue thats being ignored that vcache cant help at all. On top of that even with 3D vcache, what its not gonna actually make much of an improvement when frame rates are already absurdly high with these new CPUs to the point its a waste of money.
@@volvot6rdesignawd702 that's exactly what I did but as it was my first built I chose ddr5 so whenever I change that's what the standard will be
Great breakdown Nick! The 600 looks live great value for money, especially with less power draw than the bigger boys.
Is to much behind 7600x, 20-30 fps in games is a lot
@@ionutortian5885 considering that you could oc the i5 its not really behind
@@supportyou10 way to considering that,
@@ionutortian5885 You gotta understand that the 7600x is for gaming, that's about it. Not enough juice for anything else.
Upgrading to i5-13600K from i5-4670K, so yeah, I don't care much for platform related arguments. Using 0 parts from the old build, and will likely use 0 parts from the coming build in the next one.
It's a good thing the beast is being reviewed by a beast of a channel!
12900k performance for half the price. Nice one
I'm so tempted between the 13600K and the 13700K. Having two more cores would be nice and cooling wouldn't be much of a problem since I'm going to undervolt it anyway (see what der8auer has done with the 13900K) but 2 more cores doesn't look worth forking over an additional 120,- €. Ohh, the struggle of being an enthusiast...
take 13600k its very good i have the same, rock stable at 54 degrees in 2k mw2 gaming
Yea same issue here, torn between i5 and i7. 140$ difference in Canada , money is not an issue but I'll go with it I think. Just for gaming, i7 will not give anything extra , maybe 5 fps that I would never even notice. Plus runs cooler and less power draw!
this might be the best cpu to buy! also there's future proofing cuz of e-cores.
going from a 9900k to this was amazing
Upgrading from 6th gen i7 6700k, just bought one today in ireland for €495!!..for the kf!!!..I'd love to see 1440p , 16gb dd4 ram and an RTX 2080ti benchmarks.
That's exactly the same cpu i have as well and looking to go 13600k in the near future. How much frames and how does games run from your old setup...
If you could add Assetto Corsa Competizione Ai race to you CPU test suite it would be great, you can't run a replay as replays don't use player physics for Ai cars but in a race the CPU load is huge as Ai use the same physics as players.
love the 13600k i pair it with my new arc a770 16gigs full intel build. Love the content
Haha I love the ending, I've been rocking my Core i5-8600k and GTX 1080ti Seahawk GPU for over 6 years now going on 7 and it still does great at 1440p resolution. I just want to go Ultra wide and the new I5-13600k is the perfect upgrade for 3440x1440p Ultrawide gaming that'll hopefully last me another 6-7 years! 🍻great review
hey ive had the same 8600k with a 2080ti for many years too. this is what im looking at to upgrade now
That intro though xd
"It's just... *life*" damn, I felt that. Great video as usual 👍
I've just ordered an i5-13600KF build with 32 GB of DDR4 3600 memory and an ASUS Strix Z690 motherboard for my RTX 3080 as an upgrade from my current almost 10 year-old i7-4770K with 16 GB of DDR3 1600 memory. This is for 1440p gaming on a 27" G-SYNC display with games runing at maxed out settings with RT and DLSS, where available.
As such, I'm a bit out of touch with what constitutes a CPU core these days because the i5-13600KF has 14 cores, right, split between 6 performance and 8 efficiency cores as I understand it with the former offering 2 threads per core and the latter a single thread per core for a total of 20 threads. So why is this considered a 6 core CPU in the review? What do the 8 efficiency cores do if they are not considered to be CPU cores?
I looked at the i7-13700KF but for gaming at 1440p the i5-13600KF seemed to offer the best value for money by far, especially for the RTX 3080. I certainly will not be buying a 4090 or 4080, the latter of which costs £1,269 for the Founders Edition here in the UK with third-party models costing even more! For comparison, my RTX 3080 cost me 'just' (lol) £749 so the 4080 is almost double the price generation-on-generation which, in my opinion, is utterly absurd and not a pricing model I endorse or support personally.
Going from a amd ryzen 5 1600 to this intel i5 13600k. Paired with a new azus b660 motherboard with 32gb ddr4 ram 3200 and a rtx 3060ti I hope to get great gaming at budget cost.
You definitely will! The 13600K is a little BEAST!
Thank goodness for backward compatibility! I have a 12600k and a z790 ddr4 MoBo. I'll probably grab the 13600k when a good sale comes along.
Best part is the comment on the complainers. So dam true.
Finally upgrading from my i7-8700 to this haha. I think this'll suffice
need new gaming chip ;D 13600k looks to be very interesting
im getting it! its a beast
@@zawiszaczarny1749 i have it and can confirm , love it i play MW2 @2K at 54 degrees
Hope you're doing alright Nick.
Damn it! 13900k and your buddy 4090 get a room of your own heat dissipation would be unbearable in the same room with you 2
unless you undervolt the 13900k and get same performance at 90w, check derbauer review
Damn thats impressive, awesome video fams. 13th Gen Intel looks fire. Thanks for the awesome video
If you look at it as a 6core performance (PLAY THE GAME) CPU + an (on-chip but separate) 8core efficiency (background tasks music, email, utube, updates etc etc) handling CPU then it all makes perfect sense. Not sure how Intel are marketing this chip but it makes so much sense for a modern gamer+. Oh and power consumption is not crazy in fact it's way lower than expected - on the other hand 13900 is CRAZY and given it's idle (which we know they never really are) draw is pretty much the peak draw of this processor is crazier still.
im still rocking a 6700k, it still does what i need it to do even though my system is 7 years old. But i do want a whole new system just because it would be nice to have.
The price is almost half what it was when this video was made.
Waiting to review one myself.
Im getting ready to build my first pc in the next couple of months, and I'm going to get the KF variant. Based on what I've seen, it's a beast that outperforms the 12700kf for about the same price, while having lower temps and being more energy efficient. Hopefully, the price falls in the next few months.
What else are you going to pair it with? 🤔 I'm getting the K variant.
@@iamyourunbiasedgod2022 I was gonna pair it with a 3080 or higher, but so much has changed in the last few months that I need to reconsider. I was hoping for Nvidia's 3000 series cards to drop in price, along with the 13th gen after launch, but they only went up. Not to mention that the z690 prices went up pretty significantly for some reason. The 4000 series cards also released, but the prices are crazy. On the AMD side, they had some serious price cuts on the CPU's, and the new 7000 series cards offer some pretty good competition.
"Shut up and let people like things" put a big smile on my face. That being said, I am one of those weirdos that upgrades every cycle. Sorry if I missed you mentioning it in the video but do you have a DDR4 motherboard to test DDR4 vs DDR5 performance on the 13600K?
I wanna upgrade but DDR5 6400 CL32 is currently 600$ in my region. That's just crazy.
DDR 4 to ddr5 has 3-5% lift
I don't know how you do it? But, for some reason, your quality of 4k video looks the best among all the other tech tubers i watch.
4K is just a resolution ;)
It's all about the cameras and lighting :)
I'm upgrading after 12 years lol. I still have my X58 v2 Motherboard, i7 960 clocked @ 4.0ghz, 20 GB ram, and a Bequiet 4 Pro air cooler. This is still my daily gaming PC and it's also my MAME ARCADE rig with a 2TB and 8TB HDD. Cinebench score is 3332.
Im picking up the i5 13600k with the 2023 Z790 Rog Strix motherboard, and the X Trio 3080 ti. DDR5 5600mhz Ram, and Corsair water cooler.
why go with 5600mhz ram when you can get Samsung b-die for the same price for better performance? If your going DDR5 go with 7200mhz+, if not buy a ddr4 board
No it's not. The 13600 is a modest CPU. The 13900 is a beast.
no, 13600k its a T-Rex with Velociraptor price, its amazing
true that most reasonable people would upgrade 3 - 5 years. I recently upgraded my pc after 4 years and I'm seeing myself upgrading for the same amount of years or maybe more considering modern games nowadays required less specs from a PC compared to games that were made years ago and it will continue to do so.
Something to look into come tax season lol, I'm currently on a Z490 paired with a 10400, 3060Ti and 32GB of 3600 RAM. Also have a backup system that is a B450 paired with a 3200G, 980Ti and 16GB 3200 RAM.
i run a 7600x and a 13600k in 2 separate rigs and as far as 4k gaming there is basically no difference. BUT the 7600x makes my gaming room much less hot lol
I agree people like to complain too much. Life is short so enjoy stuff while you can.
Finally. Someone said it. All these kids are acting like that they upgrade every year.
thanks for the hard work ! although its a bit on the pricey end it'll be a great upgrade for my wife's i5 6600 !
Just picked up a 13600k today. Upgrading from a 8700k.
Intel is a true raw performance maniac 😂❤
Thanks Nick- love your work.
Bro..
I am on my ivy bridge i7 3770 CPU with my shitty ASUS P8B75CSM chipset with Samsung EVO 840 & 860 SSDs since January 2013 and this System even after runnining between 75 - 98 Degrees C in the last 4 months due to my old cranky Heat sink without a Fan and constant System Freezes and shutdowns, is still kicking ass like it's day 1 of 2013. Now I will be upping my system to i5 13600K and already my CPU is on the way.
But one thing is for sure, I am glad that I had my ivy bridge 3770 i7 being so loyal and durable all these years and finally I am willing to upgrade and yes I am a legend I know that. so Thank you.
And yes I will see the amazing benefits from moving to 13th gen from 3rd gen.
3770 and 3770K were beast cpus my K still handles most stuff I throw at it lol even though I have a 5800X3D machine I still use the 3770k for a lot
@@ErrorInvalidName i also had a 3770K i loved it. Now i have a 13600k. I tried AMD for the first time in my life a 7900x Zen 4. Never again. Bios / Agesa issues, TPM issues, Memory controller issues. Over 90 degrees on gaming. wtf. no i have 54 degrees. never change a running system right ? Go Intel any day.
I dont get those benchmarks, unless your 12600k/12900k was on DDR4, the 13600k shouldnt outphase them that hard, hell 12900k should in theori be faster in all your gametests, something´s off here.
No there isn't anything off mate. You might want to check out everyones results. All saying the same thing
This is why the results are the way present is because the 13600K has some extra cache added (similar in specs to 12700K):- L1 = 24mb, L2 = 20 and L3 = 32mb
12600K :- L1 = 20MB, L2 = 9.5mb and L3 = 24mb (I think)
that part.
Good video, i'm building a pc with the 13600k and pair it with the Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX you reviewed. I think going with the midrange stuff is a good option as this CPU offers good value and performance.
Sure it's not the fastest CPU, but building a midrange pc with components costs a lot less then it doesn't really matter about LGA socket cycle.
I mean they all ready talking about M.2 PCie 5.0 SSD's with massive heat sinks, and only a few high end Z790 expensive boards that support them so even if they did go another cycle on the socket some of the features on the board will be out dated anyway with the next generation of M.2 PCie SSD's. And right now M.2 PCie 4.0 SSD's 1TB are a good bargain and fit most of the midrange boards like the Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX you reviewed.
thank you for this my brother, good to see some aussie representation when it comes to pc part videos and content !
Just a question to anyone that reads this..
I currently have an i5 8400 and it bottlenecks on everything so ive finally decided to build a new pc after 4 years lets gooo.
Big question is cpu, i was thinking the 13600k since its $500aud for the kf version. But the real question is, this or another cpu?
ill eventually get a 3080 (also want to try out ddr5) and I mainly game and produce music, but want to make more content down the line.
So many new cpus and other products since I last built a pc so im still trying to catch up.
any help would be great ty
time to upgrade my i5-4670 😂
Same here, 4790k is getting old now. Trouble playing the newer AAA games on Windows 7.
really how you tested on the games.
Great chip for video editting and games. I found it way over the top for my pcb design software and visual studio programming and youtube.
OH NICE!, I was about to get the i7 13700k, this one is looking hella nice
I am planning to buy new processor this week (i am build a system from 0 on Z690 MB). I am choosing between i5 13600K and i7 13700K. My goal = playing games, run films, google etc.. I want to build a PC for a 4-5 years usage without platform change.
What better for me to buy = i5 13600K or i7 13700K.
The budget is not a problem, but I try to choose better variant for reasanable price, THANK YOU!
Haha love how you said it!
I was planning for upgrade to 5800x3d from my 6700k but I wasn't sure because of the production benchmarks. Now 13600k seems to be very close in gaming while faster in production workloads, should I buy this instead then?
yes
wait for 7800x3d
Definitely get this instead
take 13600k , ryzen is very unstable
@@cuongtang9539 Oh, didn't know ryzen is like that. Can you tell me what sort of instability users face and have you used one yourself?
Also I'm getting a little tempted to get 13700k, what do you think? Is it worth getting 13700k or just 13600k?
Is it?
Great vid as always. Omg Klaire that was f great made my morning
love your bench test setup
Thx 4 the Vid 😎👊🏽
Bought it Today
Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Can i put 13600k with this motherboard ?
B760m gaming ddr4
6 +2+1 phase vrm
Yes
im curious about 13600k or 13600kf. which should i get. pls help
Lf
Old mate repping the furphies respect
Rip 7600x💩 and 7700x💩
Until Zen 4 3D arrives
i absolute adore my 13600K it will servce me at least till Arrow lake comes out, or i whait till Nova Lake, we will see.
Tbf re: platform longetivity, I like to start with the first gen CPUs and then end with a used chip from the final generation, so the same AM5 board will last me 10 years easily. 🤷🏿♂️
Only reason I'm not sticking with AM4 is that I wanna go ITX anyway.
I went from 2500K to 9600KF. I'll probably wait for the 15th gen but.... I always get the i5.
exactly the info I was looking for
at 2:50
what's that about GPU and 21H2? 21H1 is the most stable and higher performance version?
I just upgraded from a ryzen 1700 to a 5600, and even if I appreciate the change, it's more because I wanted to offer myself a gift, and because I got it for a nice price, but I could have kept on with the 1700 for 3-4 more years without a sweat. The games that are that cpu intensive to require a change are not interesting games anyway, and although I want to play a lot with emulators, I am not willing to put that much money into ryzen 7000 for a computer that already ran really great with a 1700 and a vega 64 for 1440p high quality 60-120fps
Just to say that indeed, people don't upgrade that often and don't need to, and even if the fact that a platform is dead is true, it doesn't stop it from working.
Just wait for Zen 4 3D and then make your mind
@Stein Mauer what do you mean by the same experience, v-cache is 35% faster in gaming
@Stein Mauer so you only see more FPS for Intel CPUs but when it comes to AMD suddenly GPU limiting? 3D will be 35% faster it's not a guess
go for Intel / AMD is so unstable i returned my 7900x and got a 13600k much better, blazing fast and i play @54 degrees. My 7900x was over 89 degress
@Stein Mauer what is BS ??
@Stein Mauer i had a 7900x with newest bios. i had problems like bootloop, TPM 2.0 not showing up in Windows (even activated in bios). Bios Flashback not working properly. you might think, this should be stable ? its not
"It not covid, it's just... life."
I feel this. Great vid Nick 👌
Strange if you look at the specs of the phanteks it doesn't support the socket.
What's strange about it being an asetek cooler?
Does the "6 core" chip matter when it out performs its competitors from this gen and also out performs even the last gens best chips? Guess that only matters if the competition is "How many cores does it have". Otherwise the p core e core design does exactly what it's supposed to.
For 300 bucks which you can get it for on sale right now, it's the best chip for its price range. It outperforms the last gens most expensive chips and it's only like a 3% downgrade from the i7 pretty much making the i7 obsolete. If you really want a workstation bump with more cores then mght as well go for the I9 at that point.
Im building another pc for the first time in like 7 years and i was ready to pull the trigger on an i7 11700k for 264 expecting 13th gen to be crazy pricey. For 36 dollars more the upgrade between those 2 is crazy. Glad I waited
Hlo sir
Amd r5 7600x vs intel i5 13600k which prossesor should I buy for only gaming please tell me..
Perfect video, just what i'm looking for!
i have an i5-13600kf and i just bought a ASRock Z690 STEEL LEGEND WIFI 6E/D5 LGA 1700 Intel Z690 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard so does it matter this is a z690 and not z790? am i losing out on performance or any real difference?
I'm still on 4th gen. Starting to stutter while playing SC2. 😭
WOOP WOOP team blue cant wait to see the linux results
Would be interested if how the motherboard will impact performance, eg. h670 vs z690
my i7 6700k looking at me,chill bro iam broke as f#k ,u aint go nowhere
Any news on 13400 release date? That's the one I'm looking forward to the most. Hopefully it's before Black Friday.
I think the lower tier models are just rebranded Alder Lake chips.
Thank you for this video, it was very helpful.
@Gear seekers, question from switzerland ☺️ do you recommend AMD or Intel for stability or less problems? i allways had intel, and never had a single problem, but wanna try AMD first time, appreciate your kind response
They are the same in terms of stability.
@@GearSeekers okey i bought 13600k i stay with what i know it works😂
I bought a 4090 and a I5 13600k mainly for 4k gaming but also some 1440p high fps, I feel like I could've used the extra cores on the i7 for future proofing, any thoughts?
Honestly the 13600k has alot of cores already... unless you legitimately have core heavy workloads and yiur job demands it i think your good 👍
@@shadowprice8100 appreciate you bud!
@@alvarobrufalgarcia86 I am probably going to get a 13600kf myself to replace my 9900kf, its an awesome cpu for the price without the insane power draw of the 13900k.
@@shadowprice8100 that is exactly what I thought, but i also though I could use a little extra power and cores for future proofing as this gen will be the last with the socket before I gotta get a motherboard. Thats why I strongly considered something better, just so it'll last a bit longer!
@@alvarobrufalgarcia86 Well i thought that too when i got my 9900kf years ago and i have watched many 6 cores easily surpass it in productivity and gaming... and with amd and intel constantly trading blows who knows if ill be amd or intel next time i upgrade? So it best to go the best value this time and then go best value again in the future besides, a 4090 can do 4k 120hz gaming! Thats going to work for a really long time!
Thanks for the video. Quite interested in the 13600. I'm currently running a bclk overclocked 12100f on the ASUS b660g mobo, runs at 5ghz. Waiting to see if the non K skus are bclk overclockable in 13th gen
you made me buy the 13600k....
Can you share your undervolt settings for 13600k?
thank you for the review,
it looks like 13600K is a good CPU however Socket 1700 is the Dead End and there is
no point buying 13gen when you can get Ryzen 7000 now and upgrade it later to Zen 5/6
also 7800X3D is coming in 2 months and will destroy any 13gen CPUs
What if you only upgrade every 5 years?
Typical AMD fan-girl ,,, WILL maybe could AHH smoother ,,, all BULL-droppings.
Man fuck the mainboards. i Upgrade my 13600k maybe in 5 years, by then i want the latest motherboard with new features, fuck the old stuff.
@@cuongtang9539 your 13600k will suck in 3 years
@@davidjones5059 i dont care, then i switch to another cpu 😁
what thermal paste and AIO good for i5 13600k ? because i have new I5 13600k + new AIO (arctic freezer II 280) my temp is 45 to 50 celcius "idle" sometime it will go to 60c while opening chrome then it will down to 45c. if i do cinebenchR23 10mins (multi core) 85c (already undervolted using cpu load lite mode 9)
I like things. Can you do a video on its iGPU performance.
If I only game in 4k, is 13900k a waste of money? Should I just pair 13600k with a 4090?
waste yes. take 13600k
@@cuongtang9539 13600k is the way to go and its the sweet spot i feel for cpus. Your gpu can make up for it as well by a long shot and some more.
@@DETERMINOLOGY i have the 13600k but now im thinking, maybe the 7700x was the better cpu ? Because 8 real P-cores ? i Dont know
@@cuongtang9539 with amd they not equal as they handle things differently. Also for gaming it’s not like your going to see a 100 fps difference maybe 10 15 frames at that
@@DETERMINOLOGY I just want a stable AF** PC but i just wonder how AMD is i dont know theyr products. Do you have AMD ?
"It's a velociraptor...Intel Inside"
its a T-Rex with Velociraptor price 😁
fire!
It's been 5 years and I'm still not sure to replace my i5 6600k
i have the same cpu right now. we gotta change bro its old af
@@M.2-p7s sure just going to wait a bit for the hype to die down and MB prices come to a sane number, of course.
@@emadwolf10 hi, i7 3770 ;)
holy moly, just get a 5600x or 12400f...this will give ya an amazing uplift already for a few bucks
@@emadwolf10 yeah you right. you could get 12100 now with stock cooler and update the other things in the future if u wanna save money at the moment
Bang bang noti gang!