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  • Buying the Best RAM for Gaming 2022 is hard! This PC memory buying guide will help you avoid mistakes and get the Best memory for gaming 2022 for your next PC Build or PC Upgrade. RAM Explained including DDR4 vs DDR5. 🔻Click Show More For Links🔻
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    With GPU Prices going down to MSRP, it's a great time for the best gaming PC build 2022 or upgrading a gaming PC. But what is the Best RAM for Gaming 2022? In this video, we review everything you need to know about buying the best RAM for PC Gaming 2022, including how much RAM do you need for gaming, 8gb ram vs 16gb ram, 8gb vs 16gb ram, 16gb vs 32gb ram gaming, 32gb ram vs 16gb ram gaming, DDR4 vs DDR5 gaming, XMP vs DOCP, how to enable XMP, how to change ram speed in bios, RAM speed comparison 3200 CL16 vs 3600 CL16 vs 4000 CL16, and more. Getting the wrong RAM is one of the most common PC build mistakes and PC build fails, and even something simple like not knowing how much ram do I need for gaming or 2 sticks ram vs 1 stick can cost you gaming FPS. And if you want to bring some bling, we go over the best rgb ram and make specific product recommendations.
    If you are looking for the best Gaming PC Build 2022 or even just the best PC Build 2022, this video will teach you how to build the best gaming pc in 2022 by taking the first step of getting the best RAM for gaming 2022. We review the best memory for Ryzen, best memory for i5 12400, and best RAM for Ryzen, best RAM for i5 12400.
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    Timestamps
    0:00 STOP Buying Bad RAM!
    0:48 What is DDR RAM?
    1:10 How RAM Speed ACTUALLY Works
    1:59 How CAS Latency ACTUALLY Works
    2:34 Most Common Speeds To Consider
    2:54 What is XMP vs DOCP and Memory Overclocking?
    3:34 How To Enable XMP / Change RAM Speed in Bios
    4:34 Always Get Dual Channel RAM!
    5:14 DDR4 vs DDR5 What is It?
    6:06 DDR4 vs DDR5 Gaming Performance
    6:34 How Fast RAM Do You Need for Gaming?
    7:53 Don't Buy RAM Faster Than This!
    8:43 How Much RAM Do I Need For Gaming?
    9:31 What is Dual Rank RAM?
    10:12 How To Get Dual Rank RAM
    11:23 Is Dual Rank Worth It?
    11:48 Intel Users BE AWARE of This!
    12:13 Best Budget RAM for Mainstream Gamers
    13:14 Best RGB RAM on a Budget
    13:34 Best RAM for High End Gamers
    14:26 Best RGB RAM for High End Gamers
    14:38 STOP BUYING This Ram Speed/Latency
    15:29 Fastest RAM for EXTREME Gamers
    16:37 Fastest RGB RAM for Extreme Gamers
    17:19 What Does the CAT Think?
    17:32 Best GPU For Gaming 2022
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  • @PCBuilderChannel
    @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +223

    What memory are you looking to buy? Tell your story in a new comment below!

    • @Luna-mo4bp
      @Luna-mo4bp 2 года назад +51

      you should make a "Stop buying this" series, explaining a lot about of pc components and what to go after. Could potentially save hundreds of dollars for people.

    • @mrwang420
      @mrwang420 2 года назад +5

      I bought G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB (8x2) Dual Channel 3000MHz CL16 DDR RAM Is that good? I have it running on an Asus Tuf Gaming x570 Plus (Wifi) with an AMD 3950x

    • @javedrahaman
      @javedrahaman 2 года назад +4

      Hi Jason. I recently built my system and had a question about ram. I have 16gb (2x8GB) of XPG Spectrix D45G DDR4 ram and have another kit on the way. Will this second kit add well with the original set or is it better to get ram in a kit like a 4x8GB kit?

    • @august101
      @august101 2 года назад +4

      @@mrwang420 bro… u should get at least 3600 with a beast processor like that. U can get 3600mhz cl16 too from g.skill

    • @davidbrennan5
      @davidbrennan5 2 года назад +3

      @@august101 3600mhz is the best for Ryzen. You can get a cl16 kit for 80.00

  • @piyushkhengar
    @piyushkhengar 2 года назад +967

    This is exactly what I needed. No other channel offers as comprehensive and educational a guide as this. Thank you, Mr Bear!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +46

      Mr Bear says you're welcome! (;
      So glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching

    • @flamedave9041
      @flamedave9041 Год назад

      I totaly suppport your meaning. Other people describe hhow good the Ram looks like whis is something that DOES NOT count for me ^^ This Video is very nice made, I am very thanksfull.

    • @ifirespondiamstupid7750
      @ifirespondiamstupid7750 Год назад +2

      @@310pwn Are you a bot?

    • @Joe-lc3sv
      @Joe-lc3sv Год назад +1

      There are some

    • @FriezaSucks
      @FriezaSucks Год назад +1

      LTT my boy, Linus and crew are also fantastic

  • @julianayala3342
    @julianayala3342 Год назад +31

    man i wish this channel was a thing back 2016-2017 when i build my first rig, would have made drastically different choices on parts. now that im here now overhauling my whole rig. all i gotta say is i love how explicit you are with explaining things. cheers mate.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Год назад

      Thanks so much for the great feedback! It means a lot to us. Best of luck with your upgrades! Happy to help

  • @LatitudeSky
    @LatitudeSky Год назад +29

    One consideration I didn't hear, or may have missed, is physical size. My CPU cooler does not leave a lot of room for fancy RAM with all the heat spreaders that look like trees with branches sticking out, or a samurai helmet. I don’t know how people manage to fit that stuff.
    For my current system, I went with 32GB Corsair Vengeance LP 3200 CL16 because I knew it would fit. Also knew it would run without issues because my old system also used a similar Corsair LP product and never had any RAM stability issues.

    • @lolzlolz102
      @lolzlolz102 Год назад +5

      LP is for Low Profile and exists for exactly your use case.

    • @EmperorQuinking
      @EmperorQuinking 11 месяцев назад +1

      Facts Water block here, so i got some low profile redlines

  • @lancemcque1459
    @lancemcque1459 2 года назад +169

    This is one of the best RAM break down and recommendations I've seen on RUclips or anywhere else. Jason, you're really knocked this one way Way WAY out of the park!!! Good job.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +8

      Thanks so much Lance! The feedback means a lot to us!

    • @chovekb
      @chovekb Год назад

      So you've seen too little.

  • @bwboy92
    @bwboy92 2 года назад +109

    Great contents as always. It sure helps to explain the terminology of all the DRAM and what the gamers need to know. It will be great to have a bit more information for the Laptop gamers because those SODIMM are definitely different from the desktop users.
    But like you said, DRAM importance are under the GPU, CPU and even possibly motherboard in terms of gaming performance.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +9

      Thanks for the great feedback! We did actually have a section going more into laptop memory but we cut if for time I'm afraid. Always hard to know how much info to throw at people in a video. Jareds Tech does have a great video on laptop memory we recommend if people need more info too.

  • @thesolidsnek8096
    @thesolidsnek8096 Год назад +2

    I am about to build my first pc with the coming 7900 xtx and the 7600x cpu and i had literally no idea about anything before but after watching you dor a week straight i am pretty sure i am set for this job. Thank you for everything!

  • @ErwinTeunissen
    @ErwinTeunissen Год назад +24

    Good review. Only thing i miss is that faster ram not really improve average fps but specially the low fps. Making games feel smoother. I upgraded 3000mhz cl16 to 3600mhz cl 16 and the difference is noticeable and worth it for me. About 5 to 10% improved low fps. Fps drops to 60 fps now stay above 70. I sold my old ram kit so it only costed me 20$

    • @rgbreeding
      @rgbreeding Год назад +3

      Yeah. I was disappointed that wasn't mentioned. Workstation graphic cards have a similar effect to lows, but even more pronounced.

    • @naimirfan
      @naimirfan 4 месяца назад

      Is 3200 mhz 32gb ram good?

  • @ericepperson8409
    @ericepperson8409 2 года назад +20

    Thank you for making this video. It's been a while since I've seen anyone make a good RAM roundup. Great points regarding considerations for a gaming PC. One thing I do want to point out regarding rigs for Professional content creation. If you're building a PC for these reasons, then stability should the 2nd highest consideration behind capacity on what settings you should use for memory. It doesn't help if you gain a few seconds on your rendering times if the PC is crashing regularly. Even if you game on the same PC, the loss of a few fps is worth getting reliable performance when doing paid (or practicing to get paid) work.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +2

      Totally agree on this, and that is why for the video editing PCs we've built I've talked about the speed vs stability issue in those videos!

  • @reinhardtwilhelm5415
    @reinhardtwilhelm5415 2 года назад +27

    For most budgets I just throw a basic Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 3200 CL16 kit in there. They’re really cheap and have respectable performance. That’s all most midrange buyers really need.

    • @olegb5061
      @olegb5061 2 года назад

      Or there's a team 3600 C18 avaliable for 55 usually if you'd rather have higher frequency, though they should perform similar

    • @reinhardtwilhelm5415
      @reinhardtwilhelm5415 2 года назад

      @@olegb5061 I use those too sometimes, especially for Ryzen builds.

  • @dayzroc8645
    @dayzroc8645 2 года назад +1

    Hi, great video, one question: I have a b550 with 4 DIMM slots, I've installed 2×8 gig sticks, 3200 CL 16, I'm thinking about adding two more but I'm worried about compatibility issues, what do you suggest? Am I gonna be safe If I get RAM sticks with the same specs (different brand)?

  • @m4heshd
    @m4heshd Год назад +4

    Such a well-made video. Everything about this is perfect. No time wasting, excellent and clear presentation, the very likable personality of the presenter, well researched, completes the mentioned topic, and last but not least, an adorable kitty. Absolute satisfaction.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much for the awesome feedback! So glad you enjoyed (:

  • @Ethan-Smith
    @Ethan-Smith 2 года назад +14

    These videos are so good man. I can't tell you how much I have learned over the last year or so about PC parts and PC building that I just didn't obsorb or understand from watching other videos. I've put together 3 killer PCs in the last year, one of which being a very tiny ITX build with the help of a lot of these videos. I appreciate your content!

  • @ardeof
    @ardeof 2 года назад +5

    Nice work covering dual channel and dual rank, as well as RAM in general. One thing you forgot to mention is the rare quad and tri channel motherboards.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +2

      Thank you! We were only talking about intel 10th-12th gen and Ryzen 3000 -5000 in this video (;

  • @sallyk9298
    @sallyk9298 Год назад

    i like you. this is the first video i have seen of yours. you're straight to the point, clear and easy to understand. everything is laid out and no extra "flare" or BS is added.

  • @MacroMacUltd
    @MacroMacUltd 2 года назад +1

    Great way to hit the ground running on the newer generations. Thanks a ton!

  • @TopHatCat1989
    @TopHatCat1989 2 года назад +3

    In 2019 when I built my starter APU build, R5 2400G, I bought a 16GB two stick kit of 3000MT RAM. At the time for me it was price to performance and basically what I could afford. A year later after upgrading to a R5 3600 I bought a second kit of the same make. I'm not planning on building another rig until 2023-2024 after AM5 comes out and is tested.

  • @OmniKoneko
    @OmniKoneko 2 года назад +3

    I'm always appreciative of great content like this, very informative and in an entertaining way. Thank you, Jason!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +1

      My pleasure! Thank you for the great feedback it means a lot to us.

  • @Mau_S
    @Mau_S 2 года назад +63

    Built a pc recently with those kingston fury renegade sticks that you showed in your video and I'm still in love with the way they look and preform. 1% lows are better than most benchmarks that I watched, so imo spending the extra money on the 3600mhz cl16 was worth the extra bucks. Finding good looking ram for my all black build was kind of a task lol, but these sticks are nice and I'm thinking of upgrading to 32GB in the near future!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +5

      nice!!

    • @chevchelios3118
      @chevchelios3118 Год назад +1

      @@PCBuilderChannel I've got them too but I feel like they don't like my motherboard at all constantly crashing. Motherboard b450 A Pro max paired with AMD 5800x and 3080 rtx

    • @manh2704
      @manh2704 Год назад

      @@chevchelios3118 Damn man that’s really unfortunate. Ever figure it out? That’s a lot of power so is your PSU sufficient?

    • @GurujiFake12345
      @GurujiFake12345 Год назад

      @@chevchelios3118 i have Ryzen 7 5800x with B450M Aii ASUS prime and want to buy 16GB stick so tell me what clock speed is good for 5800x ? 3200mhz cl16 or 3600mhz cl16 or cl18 ?

    • @Noname-oq9mk
      @Noname-oq9mk Год назад

      Love from India 🇮🇳

  • @jesa127
    @jesa127 Год назад +1

    Great info and nice cat! Thank you!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Год назад +1

      So glad you enjoyed the video (and the true star of the channel)! Thanks for watching

  • @theKing-oz2ro
    @theKing-oz2ro Год назад +4

    These videos are incredible. As someone with no education or experience in this field, this has made shopping for parts and understanding how to build efficiently super easy to understand. Thank you!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Год назад +1

      Thank you for the great feedback! It really means a lot to us. So glad we could help!

  • @nitrox272
    @nitrox272 2 года назад +61

    One thing that confused me during my PC part gathering, I had 2 identical 2x8gb kits that were 3600 CL16 from the same retailer, when I later found a sale page from them with a similar kit with the same specs, brand and all for less than I got my kits, but it was a separate SKU. I researched and found out they had different timings but still CL16.
    The kits I had were 16-19-19-39 (Hynix die), and the kit on the sale page was 16-16-16-36 (Samsung die). Naturally, I returned my kits and bought 2 of the kits with the tighter timings for cheaper.

    • @Tadders
      @Tadders Год назад +1

      Yes 100% the SKU variations tied with merchant obfuscation/ignorance is the hardest part when it comes to RAM. Did you notice a difference with the Samsung SKU?

    • @nitrox272
      @nitrox272 Год назад

      @@Tadders The Hynix version SKU was F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC, whereas the Samsung SKU was F4-3600C16D-16GTZN, with no 'C' on the end. I have no regrets 👍

    • @balzinderchhabra8804
      @balzinderchhabra8804 Год назад

      To add to that every time Chelsea played against Barca in that period we were always the better team.

  • @sebascudde
    @sebascudde Год назад

    Hey there, I was planning on building a new pc and was thinking about waiting for the 4080 series and I always likes to go hard on all the components… which ramp should I get? I want at least 32gb because sometimes I am doing other stuff while playing. Don’t know if G Skill is better than corsair

  • @marblewaves
    @marblewaves 10 месяцев назад +2

    this is the most helpful of channel i’ve come across thank you

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  10 месяцев назад +1

      Happy to hear that! Thanks for watching

  • @TJKXenos
    @TJKXenos 2 года назад +3

    I just upgraded my cooler to a AIO cooler and your videos helped me a lot on how to place it

  • @crossed82
    @crossed82 Год назад +6

    Great video, very informative!
    I just dropped 32 GB of 3600 CL16 G.SKILL Trident Neo Z RAM in my gaming rig after a near full system upgrade -- while also swapping from an Intel CPU to an Ryzen -- and I'm beyond pleased with the results. I went with the 32 GB of RAM due to I'm a sim racer, and use a lot of extra peripherals and VR headset, while also future proofing my system... hopefully.

  • @kennethkilala2008
    @kennethkilala2008 Год назад

    Good day, Sir. I am about to build my PC. The store where i purchased my RAM (Corsair Vengeance LPX) did not have a 16g kit (2x8) available in stock. They did have 2 separate 8g sticks with the same frequency and speed. i even checked the model number at the back of the stick, and they appear to be the exactly the same. Should i install this on my board, will i encounter any issues given technically they were not a pair?

  • @Mrmisticum
    @Mrmisticum Год назад

    So much new info. Thanks!

  • @thealandude9146
    @thealandude9146 2 года назад +13

    Finally got my setup built not long ago and your channel really helped me build confidence on pc building, thank you for the great content!

  • @spoopyb2069
    @spoopyb2069 2 года назад +21

    Recently discovered your channel and it has helped me out in cutting costs wherever I can without sacrificing performance, thanks!
    Quick question: how much am I going to sacrifice in terms of performance by going with the 5600G instead of the X? Not doing so because of its integrated graphics, but as an emergency option in case my AMD GPU's drivers fail (I've heard horror stories in the subreddit) and don't have to wait weeks to use my PC again.

    • @BG-wz1iu
      @BG-wz1iu 2 года назад +2

      Why not go for a i5 12400 or i3 12100

    • @spoopyb2069
      @spoopyb2069 2 года назад +1

      @@BG-wz1iu lmfao i already bought a b550 motherboard and it's too late to refund it

    • @BG-wz1iu
      @BG-wz1iu 2 года назад +1

      @@spoopyb2069 oh ok np

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад

      Watch our 5600g build video on the channel, we benchmark it compared to other options

    • @innocentiuslacrim2290
      @innocentiuslacrim2290 2 года назад +1

      Bad idea taking such a hit on cpu just as a backup. On Intel side you do not sacrifice anything to get an igpu, on AMD side you jump backwards half a gen.

  • @JamesWatkins07
    @JamesWatkins07 Год назад +1

    Great video! Nice to see someone cut through the hype and help the first time or unsure builder.

  • @MooManch
    @MooManch Год назад

    Hi there, looking to build a new pc this coming summer and i want it to be future proof. In the video you mentioned that 13th gen cpus should be able to make better use of ddr5. How does that hold up now that 13th gen is out? And what speed should i aim for?

  • @TrumanBurbankFE
    @TrumanBurbankFE 2 года назад +21

    Because I wanted dual rank, I went for Gskill Trident Z DDR4 3600 CL16, 2×16 Gb. DDR4s were much cheaper than DDR5s and faster so a motherboard Z690 with DDR4 were the way to go.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +1

      Nice!

    • @infectedsushi234
      @infectedsushi234 2 года назад +1

      I'd definitely recommend these rams since they look good and for 175$ only!.

    • @neomis0119
      @neomis0119 2 года назад +5

      DDR5 is much faster than DDR4, if you watch most videos you see DDR4 beating out DDR5 except in some cases, this has been due to a few things, most importantly as DDR5 is new most MOBO manufacturers have not done well at taking advantage of the new tech, since even the latest DDR5 tests I have had 5 bios updates on my z690 hero, all of them have been to increase DDR5 performance, I have seen very large increases which I know one RUclipsr is working on showing the updates in the following weeks.

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 2 года назад

      @@neomis0119 Cool

    • @xXJeReMiAhXx99
      @xXJeReMiAhXx99 2 года назад

      @221722171 10k? Lmao hell no, its already significantly faster, just not always worth it

  • @Remu-
    @Remu- Год назад +31

    If you want 4000MHz CL16 memory I recommend the Patriot Viper Steel. They only cost $104 at the moment, $15 less than the Ripjaws, and they're Samsung b-die and come with 16-16-16 timings instead of the Ripjaws' 16-19-19. Heck of a deal in my opinion.

    • @koreanjew
      @koreanjew Год назад

      That’s b die down bin. Anything downbin will run the speeds and latencies but will come with microstuttering which negates the whole point of overclocking.

    • @Remu-
      @Remu- Год назад

      @@koreanjew Damn I've never heard of that.

    • @sylvanascake7623
      @sylvanascake7623 Год назад

      @@koreanjew what is the best option if i use xmp profile the straight 16 timings or 16-19-19 pls help im planning to upgrade my ram

    • @zenithchan1646
      @zenithchan1646 Год назад

      Bro what 😮 that’s fucking good

    • @ians_big_fat_cock5913
      @ians_big_fat_cock5913 Год назад

      @@koreanjew the fuck are you even talking about. B-die uses BCPD 2133mhz chips with JEDEC 2133/2400 profiles usually.
      Stop misinforming people lol

  • @aneeshfroome4464
    @aneeshfroome4464 Год назад +2

    Great video! I haven't needed to upgrade my hardware in many years, but it's time to upgrade so it's nice to get a refresher course on all this stuff!

  • @GaspoweR
    @GaspoweR Год назад

    I had to do research for a few years back when I had to upgrade RAM and I’m glad you made this video since it saves me time having to reread articles that covered this very topic. Thank you!

  • @Cassapphic
    @Cassapphic 2 года назад +13

    Be extremely careful when reading product descriptions before buying RAM. Because there’s 2 variables you could see something cheap with a good speed but if you don’t read carefully you may miss it having bad timing. I almost made this mistake when I built my first pc recently so I hope it helps someone.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +4

      Yes combo of timings + speed is important. Avoid those cheap 3200 CL20 kits!

    • @Cassapphic
      @Cassapphic 2 года назад +3

      @@PCBuilderChannel I was personally thrown off by 3600 CL18 kits, slightly more expensive than 3200 CL16 budget set I was looking at and thought “why not it’s not much more” then later realised the mistake and rushed to cancel the order and reorder 3200 16

    • @TotemoGaijin
      @TotemoGaijin Год назад +1

      This! When I was younger, I wanted to upgrade my laptop's ram...turns out DIMM doesn't fit in a SODIMM slot, lol.

    • @sylvanascake7623
      @sylvanascake7623 Год назад +1

      I just build a pc a few months ago and didnt realize ram speed and timings was important. My ram is 3200 cl22-22-22-25. What do you recommend the timing for 3600mhz cl 16 im planning to upgrade for better performace please help

    • @Fiufsciak
      @Fiufsciak Год назад

      ​@@Cassapphic You do realize that these RAMs have the exact same real time delay... right? 3600 CL18 is better, cause it's the same delay with higher frequency.

  • @NotThatGuyJD
    @NotThatGuyJD 2 года назад +6

    Great video in general, no complaints. Might make special mention of the 3600 cl17 stuff in future which is almost certainly CJR, and although with a ryzen build which doesn't run odd Cas latencies you'd end up at 18-19-19-39 which is still better than the 3600 18-20-20 or 18-22-22 kits.
    The main reason 3200 14-14-14 is more expensive is the fact that it is bdie and as such attracts the bdie tax and is less common as well and the real value lies in manual tuning for it and like you mentioned the compatibility as even the older ryzen stuff will run it no problem.

    • @Comet-lv3nk
      @Comet-lv3nk Год назад +2

      ryzen does run odd cas, you just have to disable gear down mode, however this makes it much harder to stabilize command 1t.

    • @NotThatGuyJD
      @NotThatGuyJD Год назад

      @Comet 1310 yes that is true but most people are set xmp and forget. If they set xmp at all...

  • @xMyPlaylistx
    @xMyPlaylistx Год назад

    Hi Jason, I wanted to ask about RAM. Which one should I get for my last Ryzen am4 build, 3600mhz c16 or 4600mhz c20? There's some discounts and that makes the price differences only about 30$. Thanks!

  • @GamingLuminary
    @GamingLuminary Год назад

    Great breakdown of the memory see the thing is I was always hung up on the fact that oh the DDR 5R5 memory was a way to go to feature proof building because in my case eventually eventually i was hoping to I was hoping to build my first PC this year been waiting to see what happens before the holidays happen

  • @marklionheart7715
    @marklionheart7715 Год назад +3

    Having all the RAM slots populated(starting from 4x8GB) and a Vega series is a nice combo because if you have even a Ryzen CPU you can use HBCC and SAM.

    • @Morphinem
      @Morphinem Год назад

      Pretty sure anything different than single dual makes you lost perfs. It's even indicated on MB websites as a warning.

    • @balzinderchhabra8804
      @balzinderchhabra8804 Год назад

      I love Pep, got nothing against the City players...they're all good lads. I agree with your points..people have very short memories in football.

  • @britishmick
    @britishmick Год назад +3

    Brilliantly made video with clearly explained info. Can I just say how frustrating it is that intel restrict the ram to the cpu model, I have an i7 and it throttles my ram down from 3600 to 2933 which is the max, xmp profile will not change anything, I have a prime b460 plus mobo, is this possible to rectify? Or am there stuck at 2933?

  • @rayakojuice
    @rayakojuice Год назад

    I've been binging on this channel a lot, recently. Something relaxing about the presentation, and the topics are always fleshed out super well.

  • @JLSumo269
    @JLSumo269 11 месяцев назад

    This info was absolutely amazing. Thank you bro. So if I can ask buying the same make but different timings is that ok? (T-force white with rgb ddr4 2 sticks 3200- is what I have I’m looking to upgrade to the same sticks but better time and instead of 8gb sticks they are 16gb sticks what do you think?

  • @Trailerkusken
    @Trailerkusken Год назад +3

    Great and informative video mr Jason! I just wish I saw this 6 weeks ago, before bying my new rig.. To warn anyone who are out to upgrade to DDR5, DO NOT buy 4 sticks of DDR5 RAM! As you touched in this video, the memory controllers just can't handle it.. I bought a pre-built with a kit of 2x Kingston Fury 16GB 5200 MT/s, but chose an upgrade option to ad 2 more of the same sticks. When trying to activate XMP in the BIOS, the PC doesn't even boot up.. Trying to manually set the memory to run more than 4000 MT/s, just makes the system very unstable, so baseclock is really all I can use without having frequent game crashes. So now I'm trying to get the company who built the PC to swap my 4 sticks for a kit of 2 sticks with the same amount of memory..😕

    • @Jiggy_Jayy
      @Jiggy_Jayy Год назад

      I have 4 sticks of 8gb trident ddr4 in my set up totally 32gbs of RAM. Are you and pc builder saying that's bad? I should only run 2 sticks of 16 gb?

    • @Trailerkusken
      @Trailerkusken Год назад +1

      @@Jiggy_Jayy DDR4 is fine, DDR5 not so much..

    • @Jiggy_Jayy
      @Jiggy_Jayy Год назад +1

      @@Trailerkusken word, thanks man!

  • @josiahbaker8339
    @josiahbaker8339 Год назад +12

    I learned a couple new things about RAM so thank you for that. I was hoping you would be covering a little more about DDR5 as I am buying a desktop to get away from using my laptop for highly demanding games and applications. The desktop comes with 12th Gen Intel chips 3070TI and DDR5 4800Mhz. I assumed it would be sufficient and on equal par with DDR4 and make it easily upgradeable when DDR5 gets better and cheaper.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Год назад +1

      If it is a prebuilt, you don't have a lot of choice if they use DDR5. Nothing wrong with it, just that the memory controller on 12th gen intel can't fully take advantage of DDR5 (similar thing happened when DDR4 first rolled out). Hopefully Ryzen 7000 and 13th gen Intel continue to improve! But similar gaming performance. Hope that helps!

  • @mohamedchaib5084
    @mohamedchaib5084 Год назад

    Hey Jason. What do you think of this Cuso brand on aliexpress? Is it any good?

  • @hustleathomeph
    @hustleathomeph Год назад

    Thanks for the info Jason. I do have a question in regard to my ram. I have a rog Strix b660-a mobo, i5-12600kf CPU, and 32gb 3600mhz CL16 G.Skill Trident Z Neo. Is it safe to run my ram at 3600 speed? Currently running it on 3200mhz.

  • @gscurd75
    @gscurd75 Год назад +8

    Had the money and decided to go the overkill route to see what it could do. Got 4000 CL14. While benchmarks were a bit faster, it was not really noticeable. But hey now if someone wants to know how any specific speed works compared to another speed, I can just set my memory to that speed in the bios and tell them. :)

    • @gscurd75
      @gscurd75 Год назад

      @@BIG_doinks Some do. Some don't. I got lucky and was able to run it fine. If it didn't then I would have kicked it down a little slower.

  • @ArnoldGaming
    @ArnoldGaming 2 года назад +4

    For intel 3200mhz cl16, may seem that it has same first word latency than 3600mhz cl18, but the subtimings are slightly faster and are often same price or less than the 3600mhz cl18.
    For amd 3600mhz cl18, amd cpus usually prefer 3600mhz or so.
    3600mhz cl16 is also on the table, i can find these kits for $20 more than their 3600mhz cl18.
    You can also consider samsung bdie for amd if you overclock, but they are quite more $ and quite more hard to find.
    Also there are ADATA, XPG, and TEAMGROUP bundles of RAM and SSD which contain higher end SSDS and saves a buck.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +3

      Some things prefer lower latency, some faster frequency. On balance 3600 CL18 is roughly equivalent to 3200 CL16 and that's why I recommend to skip it in favor of 3600 CL16 if you want to jump up a tier of performance.

    • @adama7752
      @adama7752 2 года назад

      Internally there is a timing spec of how long it takes in nanoseconds to get data to the output pins (CAS latency). So, if you are running at a faster clock, you'll wait more cycles before that timing is met. At the extremely you could have CL1, but you'd have to run slow like 20MHz. The only reason to run at a faster clock is the subsequent data burst (next bit in the burst) has a much faster timing. Not than you can control how a game reads it's memory. But sequential reads are faster than random

    • @ArnoldGaming
      @ArnoldGaming 2 года назад

      @@PCBuilderChannel Yea I also just went for 3600mhz cl18 cause why not

  • @SS-ql7dc
    @SS-ql7dc Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for an amazing video. Just what I needed to watch as I am pondering to build my own pc. I have a question: Is it better to get 2x16gb or 4x8gb RAM? And what would be the difference if there is any. Thank you.

  • @trveheimer6360
    @trveheimer6360 Год назад

    if i was going to get a pc configuration now and budget is not too much of an issue would you recommend ryzen 7 with the ddr5 or still recommend going for a different cpu to put the money into something else? just asking if any results have been seen since making this video. already big thanks for the video its a first time config for me and i wouldve totally mad ram mistakes here.

  • @libertyprime9307
    @libertyprime9307 2 года назад +9

    I notice that over 3200/CL16, it seems like most benchmarks only leave low single digit fps on the table by getting better RAM, and most times you're GPU bound anyway.
    Also I think when you said it's not worth chasing dual-rank, you mean quad-rank. Dual rank is what we'll have with only 2 single-rank dimms.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +8

      I think you're confused on dual rank vs dual channel, watch that section of the video again. You are correct that for the vast majority of people, 3200 CL16 is the answer!

    • @libertyprime9307
      @libertyprime9307 2 года назад +2

      @@PCBuilderChannel I wasn't confusing rank and channel, I rewatched and it confused me because when you say "dual rank", you must be referring to each stick being dual rank. But I heard that as dual rank sum total. I'm used to x2 dual rank (or x4 single rank) being referred to as a quad rank setup.

    • @michaelschwader7944
      @michaelschwader7944 2 года назад +1

      @@libertyprime9307 Dual rank is one of the following two:
      1.) Two sticks of ram with ram on BOTH sides of the DIMM.
      2.) Four sticks of ram with ram on ONLY on side of the DIMM.

    • @libertyprime9307
      @libertyprime9307 2 года назад +1

      @@michaelschwader7944 Say we've got 2 sticks of RAM, each stick is single rank. 1+1=2, we have 2 ranks total = dual rank.
      Or 2 sticks of RAM with each stick being dual rank. 2+2=4, we have 4 ranks total = quad rank.

    • @wayland7150
      @wayland7150 2 года назад

      Unless you make a series error you're fine with two sticks of 3200 RAM. I don't think it makes much difference.

  • @iku7630
    @iku7630 2 года назад +3

    I would actually go for 2x16gb 3600mhz, cl16. Price wise it's like less than double usually compared to 2x8 and you future proof yourself so much more.
    I agree that most of the time you won't need more than 16gb ram, but when you have discord, steam, windows, and all kinds of other stuff running it starts to take a toll. Especially when you play city builder games which are often overlooked in comparisons. Think of: cities skylines, frostpunk, anno 1800. Then 32 will make a difference over 16gb. Plus it's easier to fork out say 50 bucks for double the ram rather than finding a matching kit 1 year down the line. In my case for instance the RAM i had was discontinued because of a takeover.

  • @ajgunn3277
    @ajgunn3277 Год назад

    cheers to you and your cat. subbed. learned a lot. nicely done.

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Год назад +1

      Glad you found it so helpful! Cheers from the states! The cat has nodded approvingly ;)

  • @TheRaptorXX
    @TheRaptorXX 8 месяцев назад

    Phew!! Well THAT clears it up. Thanks ever so much for that!!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  8 месяцев назад +1

      You're very welcome! Glad we could help clarify :))

  • @GeekinaCave
    @GeekinaCave 2 года назад +3

    Here is my recommendation for all ryzen users:
    Get a 2x8GB kit of 4000MT CL19-19-19 (those 3 being equal is big signal of Samsung B-die) then use Ryzen DRAM Calculator to tone down to 3600MT CL14 or even 3800MT CL16 if you're lucky.
    You may think this is to much work but compared to kits that have those speeds by XMP, this option is way more cheaper. Plus you will have Samsung B-bie!

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  2 года назад +1

      I do NOT recommend this for most users. Expensive, and no reason to chase B-dies if you aren't intending to do extreme memory overclocking. If you want to do that, then check out Actually Hardcore Overclocking channel (Buildzoid's channel) and he has great content for hardcore overclockers.

    • @GeekinaCave
      @GeekinaCave 2 года назад

      @@PCBuilderChannel Well for me wasn't really expensive since I get em at $79.99 plus $10 coupon in Amazon.

  • @jamescarter8311
    @jamescarter8311 10 месяцев назад +40

    DO NOT get only 16gb. Get at least 32gb for anything.

    • @curryvictim1697
      @curryvictim1697 7 месяцев назад +5

      Meh, i agree because price is close but the only game that needs more than 16 is star citizen.

    • @TruckFan542
      @TruckFan542 7 месяцев назад +2

      And BeamNG. Cities Skylines likes RAM too

    • @Dragonballonlineshow
      @Dragonballonlineshow 7 месяцев назад +1

      I agree 100%

    • @estelleviljoen5236
      @estelleviljoen5236 7 месяцев назад

      I have 32gb lpx 3600 but want 64gb

    • @Mlkshk-kz2lb
      @Mlkshk-kz2lb 6 месяцев назад +1

      I’m watching this bud cuz I’m tryna run warzone on 8gb 💀

  • @EilrahcH
    @EilrahcH 11 месяцев назад

    Great video. will the 3600 cl16 work on a prime x470-PRO? having trouble finding that information

  • @emregocmen9562
    @emregocmen9562 Год назад +1

    This was explained so well!! THANKS

  • @SuperGojeto
    @SuperGojeto Год назад

    Really great explanation! All in one video. Just wish you had added EMMC in the list as well.

  • @rbtx55
    @rbtx55 2 года назад +1

    Really nice ! Very important informations!!!

  • @WilcoNuiijten
    @WilcoNuiijten Год назад

    what a insanely great video! thank you! merry christmas

  • @luciobruna157
    @luciobruna157 Год назад

    Nice video. Just a question: will a 3600mhz ddr4 ram work with a Ryzen 5 5600(not x)?

  • @imellor711
    @imellor711 Год назад +2

    Hi Jason,
    When it comes to a AMD Ryzen 7 5800 CPU and DDR 4 ram, is it best to increase your PC ram to 32GB using only two DDR DIMMS (i.e. 2×16GB.) or is it best to fill all the memory slots, I.e 4x 8GB DDR 4.
    Or with double clocking and CAS doesn't it matter?
    If you can let me know, I would appreciate it.

  • @felipesantos1264
    @felipesantos1264 Год назад

    super informative man! great video, thanks a lot

  • @edmundoromero8022
    @edmundoromero8022 Год назад

    Thanks, Mr! I understood almost every word, sentence and explanations that you said. Subscribed!

  • @pejmox
    @pejmox Год назад

    Your videos are amazing bro. Learned a lot from you, i wish you made a 1500k and 2000k video editing pc build suggestions

  • @embecmom5863
    @embecmom5863 Год назад

    nice ram video.. helped alot..would like to see a future proof build.. given the new cards coming out.. can it be done?

  • @knockoutjosie
    @knockoutjosie Год назад

    One of the best tech channels. Thank you ! Had to sub

  • @user-lk5kn2tr7k
    @user-lk5kn2tr7k Год назад

    Great video, Jason. Thanks a lot.

  • @fitofficial6510
    @fitofficial6510 Год назад

    Hey, help me. I will buy oem ryzen 5 4650g. Which mobo bios support xmp & which is better ?
    Msi A520M Pro or Asrock A520M Hdv

  • @neworleans4287
    @neworleans4287 Год назад

    is there any quality issue with patrion viper RAM sticks? or is it ok to go, just bought ddr4 3200 MHZ CL16 2x16 sticks

  • @lost56
    @lost56 Год назад

    PERFECT GUIDE - Very detailed and educational, and you made me realize my RAM wasn't using it's full potential without the XMP profile. Thanks a lot😉

  • @leckteck5694
    @leckteck5694 Год назад

    good video every infos and easy to understand well done!

  • @MeMyselfI_69
    @MeMyselfI_69 Год назад +1

    Thanks! I have a DDR5 board and didn't know about XMP.

  • @antoniobaric5798
    @antoniobaric5798 2 года назад

    Wonderfully simply explained. Thank you. :)

  • @Barney25252525
    @Barney25252525 Год назад

    Great video. Do you plan on doing another one with the new cpu's and gpu's?

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Год назад +1

      Thank you! And yes, so many videos on the channel to update with the new launches. But this one remains absolutely accurate when it comes to Ryzen 5000 and Alder Lake so it's still relevant (:

  • @lockedine
    @lockedine 2 года назад

    I have a OEM HP board 8704 from Omen 25l. My 3200 memory runs at 2666, should I buy 2666 memory to save money?

  • @borzonstudios8638
    @borzonstudios8638 2 года назад +1

    Going with a i7-12700F + RTX 3080 and 3200 CL16, what do you think? I'd go 3600 but trying to save some money here and there in the build.

  • @CptDangernoodle
    @CptDangernoodle Год назад

    Is it better to get 4x16 or 2x32?
    Also, for AMD CPU is Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR5 or the G.Skill Trident Z5 the best choice?

  • @maxstr
    @maxstr Год назад

    Is the "G.Skill Trident Z Royal" still a good buy? I bought those for my first X570 board

  • @itshema2386
    @itshema2386 2 года назад +1

    This is very helpful and educational. Thanks for the video ❤️

  • @davidbassenghi6547
    @davidbassenghi6547 Год назад

    very good ans usefull job : THANK YOU ! ! !

  • @ConceptHut
    @ConceptHut Год назад

    These are great videos. The information, the way you present clearly and light humor

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Год назад

      Thank you so much for the great feedback! It means a lot to us

  • @eduarperezpastrana
    @eduarperezpastrana Год назад

    Hey, you still recommend the silicon power ram? I really wanna give it a shot for that price, however some reviews do mention they are not the advertised speed, long term use problems and so on. It's my first time building a pc, i dont have another ram kit, if the ram is bad id have to try and return it while the build sits there.

  • @jessie6769
    @jessie6769 Год назад

    For a HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop TG01-0023 model. Is a 16gb of ram only recommended or 32gb of ram the best option for gaming and emulation?

  • @lenvoor1633
    @lenvoor1633 Год назад

    What do you think of the normal Rams ( the green ones) like the ones from Crucial, 8x8 DDR4 3200, is it normal to buy it for gaming, would you recommend it?

  • @Cube420
    @Cube420 2 года назад

    Very helpful video, thanks!!

  • @shekki.4814
    @shekki.4814 Год назад

    hey i have a question just bought rtx 3090 and i9 12900k, still buying a motherboard probably gonna buy z690 and I have a question is ddr4 still better or did anything change in this 5 months?

  • @frostysnowman9201
    @frostysnowman9201 Год назад

    What would you recommend to be the best single 16gb stick? My laptop only has 1 ram slot

  • @alimojebi9650
    @alimojebi9650 Год назад

    Thanks! This was very helpful. Hope you'll create an update video now that the 13th gen Intel CPUs and the 4000 series RTX models are out.

  • @user-ul8uw6en6o
    @user-ul8uw6en6o Год назад

    Hey jason. In my country, ddr5 6000mhz cl36 is only $20 more than 3600mhz cl18 ddr4, would you suggest going for the ddr4 or ddr5? Also the mobo I’m looking at is only $10 more for ddr5.

  • @hbdarji
    @hbdarji Год назад

    This is the last video I am going to watch before buying the final part (except the case) for my build. I always highly appreciate your videos and they have helped me a lot in understanding the price/performance ratios and how after a certain point it's just overkill for the sytem. Thank you for your videos, going to build my first pc and you have been a great help Jason! Good luck to you and your channel for years to come! :D

    • @PCBuilderChannel
      @PCBuilderChannel  Год назад +1

      That is so cool to hear! Glad we could help and sending you lots of good wishes for your build.

  • @skylarc8859
    @skylarc8859 Год назад

    :X im still confused, i do 3d modelling rendering and gaming, i use multiple 3D software at the same time for work. what should i look for? i think overclocking/ BIos fixing is over my head, whats the best for me thats plug and play?

  • @crimson5664
    @crimson5664 Год назад

    Thanks for the tips. It really helped to understand this topic.

  • @lovemoonbb
    @lovemoonbb Год назад

    Dude, I love you. I've been looking for a video like this for a while. Very well made video!! You da real MVP!

  • @azeddineabdoune814
    @azeddineabdoune814 Год назад

    Thanks,it is very useful,now understand better RAM's

  • @waeon
    @waeon Год назад

    so if my laptop comes with one 8gb ddr4 RAM and I want add more, can I get just one other 8gb RAM stick or should I get a kit (2x8gb)same brand RAM sticks and replace the one that comes with my laptop?

  • @ismo9920001
    @ismo9920001 Год назад

    hi i am looking to upgrade my DDR ram and add an internal SSD on hp 22-df0023w, what do you recommend? Thank you