Sure it does. Ultimate Weapon will remain as it was in the ptb, meaning aura reading, as the change described in the developer update will be "part of a future update. The Perk will remain as it was on the PTB in the meantime."
I feel happy that my artwork still has relevance, I did it because it was one of my favorite benefits even before the rework they did to it. I also forgot to include Scourge Hook: Hangman's Trick and Amanda's Letter, maybe I'll update it later.
BHVR gives out killer aura reading perks like candy on Halloween. Honestly no surprise as to why so many people run distortion, it's just that convenient to use.
My main issue is how fast and long stacks last. if it just negates 1 aura read and thats it thats fine, but it negates the next 10 second so aura so I could bbq and nowhere to hide and 1 stack negates it....
@@ShadowAngel71 thats legit not what they said, thats when the PTB stuff goes live, their patch said that locker centric one will be part of a later patch, as of right now on live its still 30 second scream, on tuesday it will be 15 second aura, then sometime in the future it will be, seemingly, 15 second locker centric scream?
Yeah it's just like when I'm playing killer and have a hard game/get destroyed so I bring in some insane addons/perks next game to only get normal survivors and then feel bad😂.
Killers have way too many aura reveal perks and add-ons to keep track of. Stealth is dead in this game without Distortion. If survivors want to sacrifice a perk slot to retain their privacy, I say let them. Nobody likes being spied on the entire match.
I’ve said it before. It would be cool if we could divide aura reading into “different types” so it’s not all countered by one perk. Such as I’m All Ears is ‘audible’ aura reading but BBQ is ‘Instinctual’ aura reading. That way they have different classifications and you could have different types of perks or addons to counter it respectively.
We don’t exactly have that, however we do have screams (r.i.p. Ultimate Weapon) and the weird bubble effect left behind that CANNOT be disabled or countered (when a survivor is hooked, gen completed, etc.) Plague has a perk which causes survivors in a certain distance to scream but also leaving this bubble effect.
that's unnecessarily confusing, besides all it does is make perk choosing a gamble where you might get nothing depending on what perks the killer brings which isn't exactly interesting gameplay. Would be better to reduce the amount of protection you get but have it work against everything. Permanent protection in the endgame could be interesting maybe
Distortion is only OP because a lot of killers rely on aura reading, and BHVR loves to have every second perk or addon for new killers be aura reading. Personally, I run Distortion because I got tired of all the aura reading after Knight came out. As Nowhere to Hide/BBQ was also used alongside the gen-kick meta, Distortion just became a little break from being found every three seconds. Since that meta died out, I rarely get value out of Distortion anymore, at most it's a wasted perk slot at best it just stops lethal. Scratch Mirror Myers eats through stacks like no ones business, and you can only very rarely get the tokens back. And before anyone calls me immersed, no, I don't hide in corners, I use Distortion pretty aggressively, Paired with We'll Make it and Bond, I go around unhooking and healing tammates and taking chase when appropriate. I use Distrotion to have a break from being found at the start of the game from Lethal.
That's a very near sighted take. "Rely on aura reading". Like, aura reading is location only. And almost none of it works in chase to a strong degree. Killers don't rely on it any more than survivors rely on distortion.
@@PallyLIVE Facts also if you are good in chase aura means nothing if the killer can't catch you. However distortion rewards cowardice. I like the whole repair a generator for value give it a fair way to get token. Makes them have to play the game.
Thank you for taking a nuanced approach to distortion. I absolutely run this perk to avoid having the killer on top of me with lethal at the start of a match. I don't hide in the corner, nor do I avoid conflict. That being said i do want a second at the start of a match to look around get the lay of the land. I should preface all of this by saying I am a killer main. I absolutely run aura reading perks. But I've never seen distortion as that much of an issue. Like you had mentioned, there is more than enough aura reading perks in the game to chomp through Distortion stacks. Not only that, but a lot of aura reading perks just go off. As a killer you don't have to put in much work for them. Like Blight has an add on where he sees your aura when he bounces. Distortion just vanished at that point. Like if you're a killer and you want to run aura reading you will over come distortion, it just takes a min. I would like to see the change to distortion where you get stacks from working on gens, a really smart change. Congratulations on kicking cancer's ass!
I am so glad you brought up that picture and even happier that while yes the one perk counters all of that the flip is also true in that it is the ONLY thing we have to stop ALL of those perks and add-ons. I have seen so many of these videos where people only address distortion as a problem and completely ignore the sheer amount of aura reading in the game. I use distortion I dont hide in a corner I do gens and I usually run healing perks to help people. I just dont want to be found every 3 seconds because the killer existed.
So Distortion existence helps swf using just one of their 16 perks to be aware of majority if not every single aura reading ability or addon that the killer may have, discourages killers from running aura reading perks, promotes cowardly rat gameplay in solo queue that is unwelcomed by both teammates and the killer, punishes already loud enough killers with huge terror radiuses so it's even more harder to get into the chase (the fun part of gameplay) Yeah that's peak game design right here. Honestly they should've never touch it since release - same goes for lucky break as if it wasn't strong enough before.
Distortion rework when you need to do object to gain stack is really good idea. Sometime if you bring a aura perk that rarely to active survivor can earn many token and that aura perk is useless for the survivor. But if you play against Wrait who have aura add-on it comsume token very fast and hard to earn token as there no heart beat. And with this Distortion idea you have to stick around gen and most the time Killer come to check gen and walk around to find survivor so this also help Killer find them more easily.
I will say it could use a small tweak, maybe just 2 stacks with a stack recharging every 45 seconds in the terror radius. As a distortion user I rarely get down to 0 stacks unless there is a scratched mirror myers in play
can vouch that playing with people who bring distortion means you get tunnelled since they're constantly going to hide in lockers and stealth away to farm stacks while u get all the aggro bc the killer can't find anyone else.
Im sorry i cant stand this stereotyping of distortion. TLDR: If people are gonna make so im tunneled with no chance to play due to perks like lethal, nowhere to hide and the like, then im going to use countermeasures to prevent that, same for calm spirit for UW! I hate big content creators saying that distortion is cowardly. Can it be used like that, oh 100%. But it boils down to meta. If killers keep using the same perks over and over then as said, ppl WILL resort to perks that counter them, or oppressive playstyles. Ive been away for 4 months, but im the sort of person who plays a good medium of all styles, altruism where i need to, gens generally, hide a bit if i need to, and even take chases even if i aint that good at em. I use distortion explicitly so i DONT get tunneled out in 2 or 3 minutes with no chance to play, likewise for calm spirit which i used when 4 man slug at 5 gen onis and nurses were common place and i got sick of it. You have every right to choose what you play with, but do NOT be surprised when ppl start actively counter-picking against the meta perks. But please do not start slating ppl who use distortion as all being inherently cowardly, or it being that a perk!
I think what would kinda fix it is like when your in the Radius of the killer to charge your stacks, you can have your aura seen but outside of the radius you don’t have your aura shown. Or have it be a single stack of 5 tokens?
I do have a different take. Either give the Survivors a set pool of Tokens that DON'T REGENERATE AT ALL, meaning you get your use out of it and then it's gone, or keep it as is but remove the effect where scratch mark disappear so that only the Survivor's aura is protected. Unless I'm running a full ass Aura build, Distortion will never run out of tokens during a normal match. Survivors don't need to have it active for the entire fucking game, and if they do, then give us a way of tracking them if they're nearby when the perk procs.
I would make it so that you only get Stacks when you are in a Chase with the killer so you can Hide with that Perk but need to take chase for your Team if you dont want a dead Perk slot and its reward players for taking for the Team
The problem is that there is way too much aura reading to nerf the one decent perk against it and if tokens are generated by gens only killers can just waste the charges by just running multiple aura reading which happens a lot more than i thought would.
I think if distortion didn't hide scratch marks it would be fine. The fact that distortion makes perks like "I'm all ears" a literal nerf in chase, is just sad.
i still think its crazy how distortion is just commonly accepted as a good counter to aura reading (a powerful tracking tool) but when we got a scream based tracking tool that was equally or more powerful, suddenly the fact that its so powerful that running calm spirit to counter it is PROPOSTEROUS and terrible and a problem, but aura reading being so powerful that running distortion to counter it is ok? i think personally there's just a stagnation in tracking perk variety. we have aura reading, aura reading, aura reading, screams kinda, aura reading, more aura reading, scratch marks being longer? aura reading again, more visible blood? and a litany of aura reading. i think we just need more variety in tracking perks/addons that are all equal in one way or another to aura reading.
I personally use distortion as an information perk with stealth just being a bonus. As you said depending on when I lose stacks I can determine what the killer is using such as detecting blood warden or bbq.
Everything in dbd has a counter...thats part if the risk/reward in choosing perks without knowing if youll get value at all just like unbreakable or adrenaline
There's a difference between counter and hard counter. You could pickup immediately to avoid UB, but you potentially risk flashlight saves or pallet stun. So it's not necessarily a hard counter. Perks hard countering each other before the game even starts is just bad design.
Distortion found a new home and its basically mandatory on every build with it: Invocation Weaving Spiders Distortion is the only perk that reliably protects a person using Weaving Spiders from aura readers. Nerfing that so you only gain tokens from gens, also means there is potentially a 90 second window where the killer can find you and interrupt your invocation through aura reading. That with the purposed reworked version of Distortion, will only protect you potentially for the first 30 seconds of an invocation. And by nerfing Distortion, it makes Weaving Spiders even more into a bad perk. Weaving Spiders is such a blackhole of a perk, it even has potential "good" builds with Calm Spirit and No Mither in addition to Distortion.
My suggestion is to completely reverse Distortions ability and turn it into a gigachad team protection perk. When another survivor within 32 meters of you has their aura revealed, burn a stack and have your aura revealed instead. You regain stacks by being in chase with the killer.
Perk idea: True hero: You risk it all to protect your friends no matter what happens to you When you are injured by any means all survivors in 4/8/12 meters gain a 50% speed boost for 1.5 seconds, your speed boost is 50/40/30% shorter. When a teammates aura is revealed, reveal your aura instead for 100\75\50% extra time. When are the final survivor This perk deactivates. I promise I will do anything to protect you...I promise... -???
I love Spies from the Shadows and I wish that a lot of (though not all) Aura Reading perks had a big overhaul to make them more like that, less direct "you can see them fully" and more "this is generally where they are," I think it'd make Distortion a little less relevant and open it up to a rework.
I think a more future proof way to fix Distortion (and OTR), is to disable aura-hides while you are hooked less than any other Survivor. That way Killers can track auras of people they aren't already spreading pressure towards. Also once a Killer commits to killing a Survivor, they no longer can benefit from denying the Survivors this mechanic. It arguably could instead be 'tied for least hooks', to also enable Lethal piercing through Distortion, or some other variant.
I think the actual problem is not the distortion being too strong rather than devs making new killer info perks more and more ridiculous. Just remember the times when bbq was considered the best info perk for years. It also had clear counterplays - if you wanted to play safe you could spend extra time hiding in a locker for the duration or enter killer's TR , hide behind the gen or you could simply not care about it. It felt fair from both sides and killers also sometimes were able to surprise survivors with stuff like bitter murmur or some cheeky aura addon. Imo those were the most healthy times for the aura read segment in dbd. When darkness revealed dropped there was a massive discussion about it being the new strongest player on the aura reading field - finally some strong bbq replacer. And look at that perk now, things like nowhere to hide and ultimate weapon make perks like darkness revealed look like child's play. Nowadays you can reveal auras so often and its so free, especially when stacking strong aura perks. The aspect of finding survivors is almost non existent rn. Doctor's static blast which was his personal trump card, literally his unique ability to find survivors, is a joke now compared to ultimate weapon which you can put literally on every killer. And those 50 killer addons, in the past it was only unique stuff like scratched mirror or all-seeing wraith, now every killer has some sort of anl cheap aura read addon. You can literally dash as Chucky and see everyone around. Not mentioning that bbq/darkness revealed/floods of rage and all the old stuff is still present and strong and it all can be buffed by lethal pursuer on top. So yeah, distortion is just an obvious path for devs to take after they decided to tier up killer info perks. Yet its bad for everyone - survivors without distortion suffer from a million aura read tools from the killer side, killers suffer from the "distortion meta", chill killers who want to have fun with gimmicky aura builds are screwed too. Yep, i miss bbq being the strongest info perk in the game and distortion not being a thing at all. Those were the times it felt fair and healthy to everyone.
For the survivor side of things, any of my teammates with distortion is a hardcore ratter. Hides in corners, only emerges when the killer is on the other side of the map for at least the past two minutes, etc. Usually has calm spirit too. A "don't look at me" player for sure.
I don't think Distortion needs a nerf. In it's current state, I think it's fine. the problem isn't the perk. The problem is the people who use it. And you can't easily fix a problem that is caused by a playstyle. You never see top players running this perk as there's just better options, but if it's really that annoying, they could just tweak it so you have less tokens (maybe only 1 instead of 3).
About the distortion "balancing" suggestion, I like the gen idea, but the tunneling problem still would exist. Maybe tokens should be granted with chases, for example: being chased for 15 seconds grants 1 token. This would encourage survivors to get chased by the killer, then, a teammates won't be tunelled out for not having the perk.
The thumbnail alone gives the reason why distortion doesn’t need a nerf. I personally don’t even have the perk yet but look at all there aura perks there are. Why can’t survivors have one to counter the 40?
I agree. I don't think we need to give Survivors more reason to pressure gens really hard for a strong effect when generators can already go really quickly.
I think Distortion is too powerful by proxy, not necessarily in and of itself. My solution to Distortion isn't to directly nerf it, but rather to diversify information in this game. We have screams and location reveals, yet they're less than 10% of the info you can receive from perks and powers and such, while aura reading directly on a survivor holds the most common type of info perks can give. If we diversify this, it will give Killers more options to deal with Distortion, and if screams in particular are used more, it gives stealth players a real reason to bring Calm Spirit instead. TL;DR Distortion's OP because nearly all info is auras, it can be fixed by simply diversifying the type of info things give the Killer
@@NameIsDoc My issue with current Ultimate Weapon was how long it was up + how often it could be used. I'm all for it being scream based. Lose the Blind effect, increase the cooldown and/or tone down the active time, otherwise let it be the way it was is my take.
@@NameIsDoc It was simply obnoxious, is what I'm saying. I didn't even call out for "completely change the perk" or "make it essentially useless", I just wanted it *toned down* a bit. It was too strong with certain killers (which I recognize is a killer problem and not a perk problem, but since BHVR refuses to tone down said killers we gotta make do with what we have) and in proxy-camping situations. This is the "Eruption causing nearly half a minute of Incapacitated" discussion all over again. A lot of people, most of them people who mostly or only played killer, exclaimed that Eruption was *fine* and needed *no* changing, while it was just outright miserable to deal with. Mind, I don't agree with Eruption's current state, but the Incap needed to go. And I don't know if I will like future Ultimate Weapon, but the current one is simply overtuned. And before I'm hit with the customary "so you think X survivor perk/item/whatever is fine then" - survivors have a lot of bullshit available to them that ought to be toned down too.
First of all, I just wanna say congratulations on beating cancer. I am extremely happy for you also, I wish there was perks in general that promoted Fairplay on both sides like, for example, instead of only being able to use Dead hard when I get hacked, it would be cool if there was like a token based system for it where I gain tokens for unhooking someone safely that would promote teamwork, and it would reward me for doing something good instead of only when I am not doing too good and I can also still be an exhaustion perks also, I would like a better matchmaking system overall and I would love it if you would make a updated video on whether not you think it would be good to have a rent in casual mode in dbd because one of the criticisms against having two different modes, is that a device to player base and it would make Q times lawn but we have proof that that is not the case because of limited time game modes and another one is that people think that people would be just a sweaty and quick play, as they would be the ranked mode but I have proof that that’s not the case because overwatch one has a quick flight mode like it does now but the reason why it’s sweatier now than it was back then is that the matchmaking for a quick play? And ranked are the same, and they keep making living penalties for a quick play more stricter so, of course, people are gonna be sweaty in that mode. Two because quick plays pretty much the same as ranked if dbd where to add a ranked in quick play mode with Quickplay they can remove the lever penalties and they can loosen up the matchmaking and if they made sure that they marketed it as a casual mode then I feel like people wouldn’t take it too. Seriously and I feel like it could be a place for people to learn how to play the game before they try ranked end it would be a good way to practice new killers without getting too punished
Ive been running distortion almost since i started back in 2018 and ill say its a 50/50 yes if a killer brings an arua reading perk it works good sometimes even better then intended but if they dont then im just with 3 perks all game and their usually all for stealth and can greatly diminish my performance from the handicap i find myself in, its basically a double edge swords because it has no utility outside of what it does but it does do its job extremely well when it can
Im a former killer main, playing 50/50 now. There has been a time where i absolutely would have distortion ans one of my standard perks on all my survivors, because lethal pursuer has been used so much. And im so sick of hearing how distortion players never contribute to the match, im doing gens, unhooking my mates, healing, i'll even take chase when needed. But i dont see why i need to be revealed to the killer from the start without assetting myself, especcially when aura read was more meta. Now that killers mostly run slowdown (wonder why) distortion is kinda waste, so i almost never use it, unless i have like 3 lethal pursuer matches in a row, then im having it on the 4th match where the killer is not running any aura read, only for me to swap distortion with something else again in the 5th. Idk, i hardly get teammates that just sit in the corner shitting their pants, and yes im playing soloQ 90% of the time when queing as survivor. I feel like the distortion hate hype comes from low mmr players that still deal with newbs who found distortion as a safety net. And the argument that distortion just makes the killer go for someone else, yeah. Thats the point? Some players are better at looping than others, you want me on your gens, not in chase with the killer. Now i can hold myself in a chase aswell pretty constant, maybe thats a reason too why im not having distortion so much anymore. But if we ought to blame playstyles, we should target the flashlight person that desperetly wants to get their flashlight safes but never contributes to gens first, rather than blaming stealthy players. Stealth is way more effective than having a beamer who never touches gens.
No it does not need a nerf. We have killers using nowhere to hide or some other aura perks with lethal for free wins on tall loops. And 90% of the listed add on's and perks do not get used. Is it annoying if you run aura builds? Yeah but its also annoying when you don't run it and some killer gets free mind games for 10 seconds. Also add to the fact it can legit do nothing in a round if you are vs stealth or they dont bring aura perks makes it a swing and a miss at times(good for info i will admit, but if you are solo queue that wont help). Pretty much the only reason it should be nerfed is because of SWF but if the players are smart/good they will already know that the killer is using aura reading based on how the killer plays.
The balance of Dbd never makes sense to me. The reason ultimate weapon is Nerf at least according to survivors is that it does too much for two little investment, but then we have things like distortion or windows or various other perks that do metric tons of things for little investment on Survivor side, and they will never be touched.
5 tokens for 8 seconds each, things like lethal persuer will give you enough time to let you find a pallet at least. it shouldn't be rechargeable but it also should get more uses along the game
I mean haven't plenty of unfun killer stats been removed/nerfed e.g the anti face camp, or even tunneling off hook, I think distortion encourages boring and unfun gameplay. The problem isn't that it's necessarily too strong it's that it's unfun and boring traversing edge of map to edge of map finding no one because they are stealth gaming. Don't get me wrong I would still have a variation of the perk but make it so that it gains fast stacks during chase only. That way it's still a great counter but feels more earned and fun because it encourages interactivity and has that element of risk vs reward. Also that way it doesn't counter lethal which imo is a very healthy perk that as you said gets counter by an entire swift team if they have one person with distortion.
No, no it really isn't because the true problem isn't 'This one perk counters all of this' it's "How free Aura reading truly is" It's not a perk problem it's a playstyle problem where a lot of people who use it WILL try and hide. I am an AVID user of Distortion but I ain't exactly the most stealthy. I use it cause I'm sick of the sheer amount of aura reading allowing killers to just autopilot their way towards me. If Aura reading wasn't as strong as it was, then sure I'd say the perk needs a nerf but when you can rip through all 3 tokens in the span of a minute because a killer has an Aura addon and Perk combo? If anything, they need to make it to where the recharge tokens only happens when IN CHASE rather than in the terror radius.
@@blazeyprime4470 Sorry being stuck in the hardcap of MMR makes it to where I'm going against nothing but shit like Blights. I streamed almost every hour I've played of this game and I can tell you I am most certainly NOT a rat. Sure I wont just THROW MYSELF at the killer but I'm gonna let you in on a secret. MOST of my games? No one's running aura reading if it isn't the usual offenders so it's a dead perk otherwise.
jeez so we're complaining about aura perks now. it made sense with eruption and deadhard because they stall the game and actively are annoying, but info perks? oof. I'm going to start complaining about premonition randomly now. just for fun.
@somefuck Yet DH still used very often just not as strong and now DS back to 5 seconds. Do you see any killer perks EVER get reverted or used after being nuked from orbit? No only survivor perks, now go buy your daddy BHVR's new skins lol.
@@Some_Idiot_Online I'm not even complaining about info perks? I'm saying Info is insanely free with it to the point killers are playing on autopilot which I'm fine with, and because of how easy Aura is to access yeah, Discordance is fine. It needs some tuning yes but the nerfs people propose? Hell no, it HAS to be rechargeable but it shouldn't be as easy as it is to recharge. Is it really so wrong to have 1000hrs of game time and sick of the fact at least half of my games have lethal pursuer with several aura perks on a highly mobile killers? It ain't fun. I love a good chase but I hate having Blight sniffing my asshole in the first 10 seconds especially now that Double iri blight exists and has no counter.
no just run gearhead it chews through distortion charges like candy jesus christ not everyone wants to deal with people having 0 ability to use their eyes. I am tired of killers just bitching about random things until its gutted. you dont like it use something that counters it thats it thats the counter healing gutted medkits gutted gen speeds gutted anti slug rework removed boons practically useless cleansing dull totems useless sabotage borderline trolling if you use it. like do you just want us to line up at the start of the match and afk so you can get an easy 4 kill to. stealth is a playstyle and just because you dont like it doesnt mean it needs a nerf I hate dealing with the hag and the artist does that mean they should just remove them? no. for the past like 4 years survivor has been gutted aside from some quality of life buffs for solo que that still doesnt fix your solo que teammates
You should either not be able to earn tokens at all or you should have to earn all of them. Starting with 3 AND earning them is what is so annoying. It feels like I can never burn through them. Also OTR is a counter to aura reading perks/add ons and is fine. Distortion is way more annoying. GG on kicking cancer’s ass, that’s awesome man!
Imo it's not Distortion that's OP (I mean, we can absolutely nerf it don't get me wrong), but it's the fact that the devs in the last years have basically pushed an aura reading meta, with only one perk that actually counters them (and technically Off the Record, but let's be honest, nobody uses Off the Record to counter aura reading) There are like at least a dozen of perks for survivors that are completely useless and stupid (E.G Jane's "Poised"), some of these useless perks could EASILY be reworked into fun alternatives, hell take a DLC like Tools of Toment, 6 survivors perks and only one is considered good, the others are just garbage filler, and they could easily make them something better and new and more fun... Distortion was a super shitty perk some years ago but I liked it because it was unique and the Aura meta was not that prevalent, then it was buffed to have 4 tokens and I was happy, then it got reworked in whatever it is now, and I cannot run the perk without looking like a new player cuz everyone is abusing it, but truth be told it's literally the only perk that counters this meta so it's kinda also a given.
Actually I’d say it’s even more useless, killer doesn’t run aura reading and you wasted a slot. Pop goes the weasel or Pain Reno will always gain value regardless of what the survivors run.
I bring distortion and the killer has no aura perks. I take it off and they have four aura perks, two aura addons, and wall hacks just in case I run deliverance I get hooked first. I take it off I get hooked fourth. Perfect balance.
I hate distortion players in my lobby even as a solo queuer because they overwhelmingly fall into the stereotype of "teammates" who don't do anything all game but hide while you get tunneled and have to juggle repairs, rescues and running the killers all by your self. 💩 On killer it's annoying too.
My idea to change distortion was to make it have a base of 4 stacks that only come back after you are un hooked. Which means you can hide but will eventually be found I do like the gen idea tho. Also FUCK CANCER glad to hear dude
Simple solution, don’t run aura reading perks. If you don’t run any, distortion becomes useless. When I play killer, I never run any aura reading perks. Or just run gearhead to counter distortion, most people can’t hit great skill checks lol
Well that's the issue. Distortion discourages people from running aura perks which heavily reinforces the gen slowdown meta, making games more boring for everyone. Also stealth gameplay is boring
@@bonkripper6103 There are plenty more builds that are way more fun than slowdown and aura reading, most people just don’t like to change this up (plus most survivors run hard meta as well).
@@bonkripper6103 My comment was a joke on how your solution is such a NON solution. The way you play is YOUR playstyle, other people enjoy other things and just telling them to just play a different way is dumb. Just because YOU find a playstyle fun or unfun does not mean it's the same for everyone. I stopped running aura perks months ago but it doesn't mean it's difficult to understand the frustration of an uncounterable perk (Running gearhead may be a 'counter' but why would you run it if you don't know the survivor has distortion 😭)
blocks killers aura reading for 10 seconds User must be in in killers radius for 30 seconds This is somewhat fair as Survs have to go out of their way and put themselves in danger to benefit from Distortion. (It's risk vs reward)
Man I'm mad. I've been proposing that Distortion should charge with Conspicuous actions (Healing / Doing Gens) for a long time now but Deadbeat DbD Chat stole my idea. It's simultaneously a nerf to immersed players who hide all game and then take hatch and a buff to the perk against stealth killers.
The problem with distortion is that it keeps rewarding being passive rather than using it offensively, if being in chase recharged tokens rather than being hidden, it would be useful for skilled chase survivors. Ps. Gen progress for stacks is also a really good change, cause it encourages you to still progress the game
So its ok for people to keep running bbq and chili and lethal pursuer every game but distortion, the only way to counter those perks and other aura reading abilities, is the problem💀
I use aura perks because i keep my volume considerably low because i hate how dynamic the audio levels get. To have a single perk completely destroy my ability to find and track survivors blows
Typing this before watching the whole vid, but my thought has always been that the perks effect is fine, it’s just how you get more tokens that is the problem. Getting tokens in a chase would be a great way to stop people hiding on the edge of the map, but also may benefit those who are already great at chase. Edit: congrats on beating cancer gg no re as the others have said🔥🙏
I think stealth killers having an easier time with distortion is intentional, scratched Myers against distortion would be miserable if they had other ways to get stacks back. hopefully they don't make any design choices based on the fact hatch exists. hatch needs to be removed from the game.
How about gaining stacks for being in chase instead? "Cowards" can do gens just fine, that's why they're using distortion in the first place. Why not incentivize something other than hiding or sitting on a corner gen? Guy sits on gen, loses stack to BBQ, stays on gen, gains stack. Meh. If someone wants to actively avoid getting discovered by the killer to get hatch they can just jump between lockers. They wouldn't even need to gain stacks as they wouldn't even lose the initial 3 stacks in the first place because of the limited exposure to the outside. People who want to play like rats can do so without a problem even if Distortion was removed yesterday.
As a pig player, I'm not sure if I should be offended that you didn't add Amanda's Letter to your list, or happy that you understand that it actually counters Distortion.
Distortion is fine, I have no issue with it other than I think if you are using it just to outright hide the entire match you are not really using it to its full potential. Plus you rob yourself of chances to improve at the game by constantly avoiding chases
personally, i use distortion for both avoiding giving the killer intel and countering i'm all ears during chases. if you know how to utilize stealth and aggro, this perk is a must have also congratulations on beating cancer
BHVR hard trolled me with this upload again but the video still holds up regardless.
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Sure it does. Ultimate Weapon will remain as it was in the ptb, meaning aura reading, as the change described in the developer update will be "part of a future update. The Perk will remain as it was on the PTB in the meantime."
Congrats on beating cancer, Choy.
Glad to hear you fucked cancer up! Keep up the good work man!❤
I feel happy that my artwork still has relevance, I did it because it was one of my favorite benefits even before the rework they did to it.
I also forgot to include Scourge Hook: Hangman's Trick and Amanda's Letter, maybe I'll update it later.
BHVR gives out killer aura reading perks like candy on Halloween. Honestly no surprise as to why so many people run distortion, it's just that convenient to use.
Probs because aura is the only perk type that isn't flamed
My main issue is how fast and long stacks last. if it just negates 1 aura read and thats it thats fine, but it negates the next 10 second so aura so I could bbq and nowhere to hide and 1 stack negates it....
Aaaand this video's opening is already outdated since Ultimate Weapon isnt going to be aura reading anymore
read the patchnotes, that patchnote was for a future update, which is stupid to put it there "Ultimate weapon will remain as it is on the PTB for now"
The locker centric version of Ultimate Weapon goes live next Tuesday.
@@ShadowAngel71 thats legit not what they said, thats when the PTB stuff goes live, their patch said that locker centric one will be part of a later patch, as of right now on live its still 30 second scream, on tuesday it will be 15 second aura, then sometime in the future it will be, seemingly, 15 second locker centric scream?
unfortunately, it is now :((((
This comment is already outdated because it went back to aura reading lol
Every time i run distortion, the killer doesn’t bring aura perks
Every time I bring distortion, the killer is wraith or shape so I can't restack it xD
you win some, you lose some
yes but the perk is still useful even if the killer doesnt have Aura because of the info. also counters aura addons so it might still be useful anyway
Yeah it's just like when I'm playing killer and have a hard game/get destroyed so I bring in some insane addons/perks next game to only get normal survivors and then feel bad😂.
Yup its a gamble just like unbreakable
Killers have way too many aura reveal perks and add-ons to keep track of. Stealth is dead in this game without Distortion.
If survivors want to sacrifice a perk slot to retain their privacy, I say let them. Nobody likes being spied on the entire match.
but i like spying on them especially with a weapon in my hand
nice to see you here PainReliever!
Ding dong, your opinion is wrong
@@ButtersDBD looks like you need another round of therapy. as a doctor main how about a 4 day laugh track
Aura read and haste meta
I’ve said it before. It would be cool if we could divide aura reading into “different types” so it’s not all countered by one perk. Such as I’m All Ears is ‘audible’ aura reading but BBQ is ‘Instinctual’ aura reading. That way they have different classifications and you could have different types of perks or addons to counter it respectively.
We don’t exactly have that, however we do have screams (r.i.p. Ultimate Weapon) and the weird bubble effect left behind that CANNOT be disabled or countered (when a survivor is hooked, gen completed, etc.) Plague has a perk which causes survivors in a certain distance to scream but also leaving this bubble effect.
True aura: Can be seen through all obstacles
@@jeremiahsbeast5560Those bubbles are too vague they aren’t that helpful imo.
That would require Bhvr to do work.
that's unnecessarily confusing, besides all it does is make perk choosing a gamble where you might get nothing depending on what perks the killer brings which isn't exactly interesting gameplay. Would be better to reduce the amount of protection you get but have it work against everything. Permanent protection in the endgame could be interesting maybe
the important part of the video: 8:43
Right! Congrats Choy, such great news!
Distortion is only OP because a lot of killers rely on aura reading, and BHVR loves to have every second perk or addon for new killers be aura reading.
Personally, I run Distortion because I got tired of all the aura reading after Knight came out. As Nowhere to Hide/BBQ was also used alongside the gen-kick meta, Distortion just became a little break from being found every three seconds. Since that meta died out, I rarely get value out of Distortion anymore, at most it's a wasted perk slot at best it just stops lethal. Scratch Mirror Myers eats through stacks like no ones business, and you can only very rarely get the tokens back.
And before anyone calls me immersed, no, I don't hide in corners, I use Distortion pretty aggressively, Paired with We'll Make it and Bond, I go around unhooking and healing tammates and taking chase when appropriate.
I use Distrotion to have a break from being found at the start of the game from Lethal.
That's a very near sighted take.
"Rely on aura reading". Like, aura reading is location only. And almost none of it works in chase to a strong degree. Killers don't rely on it any more than survivors rely on distortion.
@@PallyLIVE Facts also if you are good in chase aura means nothing if the killer can't catch you. However distortion rewards cowardice. I like the whole repair a generator for value give it a fair way to get token. Makes them have to play the game.
Thank you for taking a nuanced approach to distortion. I absolutely run this perk to avoid having the killer on top of me with lethal at the start of a match. I don't hide in the corner, nor do I avoid conflict. That being said i do want a second at the start of a match to look around get the lay of the land. I should preface all of this by saying I am a killer main. I absolutely run aura reading perks. But I've never seen distortion as that much of an issue. Like you had mentioned, there is more than enough aura reading perks in the game to chomp through Distortion stacks. Not only that, but a lot of aura reading perks just go off. As a killer you don't have to put in much work for them. Like Blight has an add on where he sees your aura when he bounces. Distortion just vanished at that point. Like if you're a killer and you want to run aura reading you will over come distortion, it just takes a min.
I would like to see the change to distortion where you get stacks from working on gens, a really smart change.
Congratulations on kicking cancer's ass!
I am so glad you brought up that picture and even happier that while yes the one perk counters all of that the flip is also true in that it is the ONLY thing we have to stop ALL of those perks and add-ons. I have seen so many of these videos where people only address distortion as a problem and completely ignore the sheer amount of aura reading in the game. I use distortion I dont hide in a corner I do gens and I usually run healing perks to help people. I just dont want to be found every 3 seconds because the killer existed.
GG NO RE CANCER. GET SHIT ON
So Distortion existence helps swf using just one of their 16 perks to be aware of majority if not every single aura reading ability or addon that the killer may have, discourages killers from running aura reading perks, promotes cowardly rat gameplay in solo queue that is unwelcomed by both teammates and the killer, punishes already loud enough killers with huge terror radiuses so it's even more harder to get into the chase (the fun part of gameplay)
Yeah that's peak game design right here. Honestly they should've never touch it since release - same goes for lucky break as if it wasn't strong enough before.
As a killer player I don't mind, I don't run aura reading anyway, so survivors play with 3 perks against me :)
It still lets me know you dont have aura reading so I can be more aggressive
I want everyone here to know, not every single survivor that you play against in the entire lobby runs Distortion.
Just a large majority XD
@@WhoKnowsUno Keep whining.
@@Kondziorek55 If that is whining to you, I’d imagine your not very fun at parties lmao. (Though I imagine you’ve never been invited to one)
@@WhoKnowsUno The fact that you took offense to that must mean you're not very fun at parties either lol.
Hi I'm the one guy who doesn't run it since I don't have Jeff. Technically you're both right because me
Distortion rework when you need to do object to gain stack is really good idea. Sometime if you bring a aura perk that rarely to active survivor can earn many token and that aura perk is useless for the survivor. But if you play against Wrait who have aura add-on it comsume token very fast and hard to earn token as there no heart beat. And with this Distortion idea you have to stick around gen and most the time Killer come to check gen and walk around to find survivor so this also help Killer find them more easily.
I will say it could use a small tweak, maybe just 2 stacks with a stack recharging every 45 seconds in the terror radius. As a distortion user I rarely get down to 0 stacks unless there is a scratched mirror myers in play
can vouch that playing with people who bring distortion means you get tunnelled since they're constantly going to hide in lockers and stealth away to farm stacks while u get all the aggro bc the killer can't find anyone else.
Why do you call survivors cowards for using distortion, but never call killers weak for using aura reading perks?
killers use aura reading to win the game for their "team" of one. Survivors using distortion can leave their team to die and go for hatch
Im sorry i cant stand this stereotyping of distortion. TLDR: If people are gonna make so im tunneled with no chance to play due to perks like lethal, nowhere to hide and the like, then im going to use countermeasures to prevent that, same for calm spirit for UW!
I hate big content creators saying that distortion is cowardly. Can it be used like that, oh 100%. But it boils down to meta. If killers keep using the same perks over and over then as said, ppl WILL resort to perks that counter them, or oppressive playstyles.
Ive been away for 4 months, but im the sort of person who plays a good medium of all styles, altruism where i need to, gens generally, hide a bit if i need to, and even take chases even if i aint that good at em. I use distortion explicitly so i DONT get tunneled out in 2 or 3 minutes with no chance to play, likewise for calm spirit which i used when 4 man slug at 5 gen onis and nurses were common place and i got sick of it.
You have every right to choose what you play with, but do NOT be surprised when ppl start actively counter-picking against the meta perks. But please do not start slating ppl who use distortion as all being inherently cowardly, or it being that a perk!
I think what would kinda fix it is like when your in the Radius of the killer to charge your stacks, you can have your aura seen but outside of the radius you don’t have your aura shown.
Or have it be a single stack of 5 tokens?
I do have a different take. Either give the Survivors a set pool of Tokens that DON'T REGENERATE AT ALL, meaning you get your use out of it and then it's gone, or keep it as is but remove the effect where scratch mark disappear so that only the Survivor's aura is protected. Unless I'm running a full ass Aura build, Distortion will never run out of tokens during a normal match. Survivors don't need to have it active for the entire fucking game, and if they do, then give us a way of tracking them if they're nearby when the perk procs.
If I find them I normally just get them out as fast as possible and bait the others to save swf will 9-10 try and sae their distortion gamer.
Holy fuck dude beat cancer what a legend I was so sad to hear about the news when you first told us much love choy 🖤
I love stealthy gameplay and absolutely love the idea of gaining stacks for repairing generators. So glad your treatment is going well
I would make it so that you only get Stacks when you are in a Chase with the killer so you can Hide with that Perk but need to take chase for your Team if you dont want a dead Perk slot and its reward players for taking for the Team
The problem is that there is way too much aura reading to nerf the one decent perk against it and if tokens are generated by gens only killers can just waste the charges by just running multiple aura reading which happens a lot more than i thought would.
I think if distortion didn't hide scratch marks it would be fine. The fact that distortion makes perks like "I'm all ears" a literal nerf in chase, is just sad.
i still think its crazy how distortion is just commonly accepted as a good counter to aura reading (a powerful tracking tool) but when we got a scream based tracking tool that was equally or more powerful, suddenly the fact that its so powerful that running calm spirit to counter it is PROPOSTEROUS and terrible and a problem, but aura reading being so powerful that running distortion to counter it is ok? i think personally there's just a stagnation in tracking perk variety. we have aura reading, aura reading, aura reading, screams kinda, aura reading, more aura reading, scratch marks being longer? aura reading again, more visible blood? and a litany of aura reading. i think we just need more variety in tracking perks/addons that are all equal in one way or another to aura reading.
I personally use distortion as an information perk with stealth just being a bonus. As you said depending on when I lose stacks I can determine what the killer is using such as detecting blood warden or bbq.
Everything in dbd has a counter...thats part if the risk/reward in choosing perks without knowing if youll get value at all just like unbreakable or adrenaline
There's a difference between counter and hard counter.
You could pickup immediately to avoid UB, but you potentially risk flashlight saves or pallet stun.
So it's not necessarily a hard counter.
Perks hard countering each other before the game even starts is just bad design.
Distortion found a new home and its basically mandatory on every build with it: Invocation Weaving Spiders
Distortion is the only perk that reliably protects a person using Weaving Spiders from aura readers. Nerfing that so you only gain tokens from gens, also means there is potentially a 90 second window where the killer can find you and interrupt your invocation through aura reading. That with the purposed reworked version of Distortion, will only protect you potentially for the first 30 seconds of an invocation. And by nerfing Distortion, it makes Weaving Spiders even more into a bad perk.
Weaving Spiders is such a blackhole of a perk, it even has potential "good" builds with Calm Spirit and No Mither in addition to Distortion.
I feel like that change wouldn't work being that most distortion players are gen jockeys unless toolboxes and genrush perks being nerfed
My suggestion is to completely reverse Distortions ability and turn it into a gigachad team protection perk.
When another survivor within 32 meters of you has their aura revealed, burn a stack and have your aura revealed instead. You regain stacks by being in chase with the killer.
Perk idea: True hero:
You risk it all to protect your friends no matter what happens to you
When you are injured by any means all survivors in 4/8/12 meters gain a 50% speed boost for 1.5 seconds, your speed boost is 50/40/30% shorter. When a teammates aura is revealed, reveal your aura instead for 100\75\50% extra time. When are the final survivor This perk deactivates.
I promise I will do anything to protect you...I promise... -???
@@StopWhiningManguideCultistsi would absolutely love this, I'd sacrifice myself for my team anyway, but this would make it so much more interesting
@@hightierskrub3734 id run it too
Definitely doesn't need a nerf, but I really like that rework idea.
I love Spies from the Shadows and I wish that a lot of (though not all) Aura Reading perks had a big overhaul to make them more like that, less direct "you can see them fully" and more "this is generally where they are," I think it'd make Distortion a little less relevant and open it up to a rework.
I think a more future proof way to fix Distortion (and OTR), is to disable aura-hides while you are hooked less than any other Survivor. That way Killers can track auras of people they aren't already spreading pressure towards. Also once a Killer commits to killing a Survivor, they no longer can benefit from denying the Survivors this mechanic. It arguably could instead be 'tied for least hooks', to also enable Lethal piercing through Distortion, or some other variant.
the entire reason I was running UW is because it at least gave me some way to find players that ran distortion....
I think the actual problem is not the distortion being too strong rather than devs making new killer info perks more and more ridiculous.
Just remember the times when bbq was considered the best info perk for years. It also had clear counterplays - if you wanted to play safe you could spend extra time hiding in a locker for the duration or enter killer's TR , hide behind the gen or you could simply not care about it. It felt fair from both sides and killers also sometimes were able to surprise survivors with stuff like bitter murmur or some cheeky aura addon. Imo those were the most healthy times for the aura read segment in dbd.
When darkness revealed dropped there was a massive discussion about it being the new strongest player on the aura reading field - finally some strong bbq replacer. And look at that perk now, things like nowhere to hide and ultimate weapon make perks like darkness revealed look like child's play. Nowadays you can reveal auras so often and its so free, especially when stacking strong aura perks. The aspect of finding survivors is almost non existent rn. Doctor's static blast which was his personal trump card, literally his unique ability to find survivors, is a joke now compared to ultimate weapon which you can put literally on every killer. And those 50 killer addons, in the past it was only unique stuff like scratched mirror or all-seeing wraith, now every killer has some sort of anl cheap aura read addon. You can literally dash as Chucky and see everyone around.
Not mentioning that bbq/darkness revealed/floods of rage and all the old stuff is still present and strong and it all can be buffed by lethal pursuer on top.
So yeah, distortion is just an obvious path for devs to take after they decided to tier up killer info perks. Yet its bad for everyone - survivors without distortion suffer from a million aura read tools from the killer side, killers suffer from the "distortion meta", chill killers who want to have fun with gimmicky aura builds are screwed too.
Yep, i miss bbq being the strongest info perk in the game and distortion not being a thing at all. Those were the times it felt fair and healthy to everyone.
For the survivor side of things, any of my teammates with distortion is a hardcore ratter. Hides in corners, only emerges when the killer is on the other side of the map for at least the past two minutes, etc. Usually has calm spirit too. A "don't look at me" player for sure.
I don't think Distortion needs a nerf. In it's current state, I think it's fine. the problem isn't the perk. The problem is the people who use it. And you can't easily fix a problem that is caused by a playstyle. You never see top players running this perk as there's just better options, but if it's really that annoying, they could just tweak it so you have less tokens (maybe only 1 instead of 3).
I literally saw it in that Dbd tournament video otz made
About the distortion "balancing" suggestion, I like the gen idea, but the tunneling problem still would exist. Maybe tokens should be granted with chases, for example: being chased for 15 seconds grants 1 token. This would encourage survivors to get chased by the killer, then, a teammates won't be tunelled out for not having the perk.
The thumbnail alone gives the reason why distortion doesn’t need a nerf. I personally don’t even have the perk yet but look at all there aura perks there are. Why can’t survivors have one to counter the 40?
Distortion doesn’t counter myers, he burns through distortion stacks so fast with the stalk thing
Two add-ons which both kinda make him trash but fun
Distortion replaced OoO in SWFs... But the later at least now has a counter. Distortion is only benefits...
I think should be unhooking action instead of gens
I agree. I don't think we need to give Survivors more reason to pressure gens really hard for a strong effect when generators can already go really quickly.
After 1 stack is consumed 30s cooldown when used all 120s in end game the perks should be disabled like ds/otr
Distortion tokens should recharge only during chase. It's funny how Pebble perk recharges only in chase while it not being as good as Distortion
I think Distortion is too powerful by proxy, not necessarily in and of itself. My solution to Distortion isn't to directly nerf it, but rather to diversify information in this game. We have screams and location reveals, yet they're less than 10% of the info you can receive from perks and powers and such, while aura reading directly on a survivor holds the most common type of info perks can give. If we diversify this, it will give Killers more options to deal with Distortion, and if screams in particular are used more, it gives stealth players a real reason to bring Calm Spirit instead.
TL;DR Distortion's OP because nearly all info is auras, it can be fixed by simply diversifying the type of info things give the Killer
Look at how much survivors are screaming about ultimate weapon because it’s a scream perk rather than an aura reveal.
@@NameIsDoc My issue with current Ultimate Weapon was how long it was up + how often it could be used.
I'm all for it being scream based. Lose the Blind effect, increase the cooldown and/or tone down the active time, otherwise let it be the way it was is my take.
@@ihmislehma it was fine as it was period it didn't need changes. Oh no you screamed once every 45 seconds...the horror
@@NameIsDoc 30s
@@NameIsDoc It was simply obnoxious, is what I'm saying. I didn't even call out for "completely change the perk" or "make it essentially useless", I just wanted it *toned down* a bit.
It was too strong with certain killers (which I recognize is a killer problem and not a perk problem, but since BHVR refuses to tone down said killers we gotta make do with what we have) and in proxy-camping situations.
This is the "Eruption causing nearly half a minute of Incapacitated" discussion all over again. A lot of people, most of them people who mostly or only played killer, exclaimed that Eruption was *fine* and needed *no* changing, while it was just outright miserable to deal with.
Mind, I don't agree with Eruption's current state, but the Incap needed to go. And I don't know if I will like future Ultimate Weapon, but the current one is simply overtuned.
And before I'm hit with the customary "so you think X survivor perk/item/whatever is fine then" - survivors have a lot of bullshit available to them that ought to be toned down too.
First of all, I just wanna say congratulations on beating cancer. I am extremely happy for you also, I wish there was perks in general that promoted Fairplay on both sides like, for example, instead of only being able to use Dead hard when I get hacked, it would be cool if there was like a token based system for it where I gain tokens for unhooking someone safely that would promote teamwork, and it would reward me for doing something good instead of only when I am not doing too good and I can also still be an exhaustion perks also, I would like a better matchmaking system overall and I would love it if you would make a updated video on whether not you think it would be good to have a rent in casual mode in dbd because one of the criticisms against having two different modes, is that a device to player base and it would make Q times lawn but we have proof that that is not the case because of limited time game modes and another one is that people think that people would be just a sweaty and quick play, as they would be the ranked mode but I have proof that that’s not the case because overwatch one has a quick flight mode like it does now but the reason why it’s sweatier now than it was back then is that the matchmaking for a quick play? And ranked are the same, and they keep making living penalties for a quick play more stricter so, of course, people are gonna be sweaty in that mode. Two because quick plays pretty much the same as ranked if dbd where to add a ranked in quick play mode with Quickplay they can remove the lever penalties and they can loosen up the matchmaking and if they made sure that they marketed it as a casual mode then I feel like people wouldn’t take it too. Seriously and I feel like it could be a place for people to learn how to play the game before they try ranked end it would be a good way to practice new killers without getting too punished
Ive been running distortion almost since i started back in 2018 and ill say its a 50/50 yes if a killer brings an arua reading perk it works good sometimes even better then intended but if they dont then im just with 3 perks all game and their usually all for stealth and can greatly diminish my performance from the handicap i find myself in, its basically a double edge swords because it has no utility outside of what it does but it does do its job extremely well when it can
Im a former killer main, playing 50/50 now. There has been a time where i absolutely would have distortion ans one of my standard perks on all my survivors, because lethal pursuer has been used so much. And im so sick of hearing how distortion players never contribute to the match, im doing gens, unhooking my mates, healing, i'll even take chase when needed. But i dont see why i need to be revealed to the killer from the start without assetting myself, especcially when aura read was more meta.
Now that killers mostly run slowdown (wonder why) distortion is kinda waste, so i almost never use it, unless i have like 3 lethal pursuer matches in a row, then im having it on the 4th match where the killer is not running any aura read, only for me to swap distortion with something else again in the 5th.
Idk, i hardly get teammates that just sit in the corner shitting their pants, and yes im playing soloQ 90% of the time when queing as survivor. I feel like the distortion hate hype comes from low mmr players that still deal with newbs who found distortion as a safety net. And the argument that distortion just makes the killer go for someone else, yeah. Thats the point? Some players are better at looping than others, you want me on your gens, not in chase with the killer. Now i can hold myself in a chase aswell pretty constant, maybe thats a reason too why im not having distortion so much anymore.
But if we ought to blame playstyles, we should target the flashlight person that desperetly wants to get their flashlight safes but never contributes to gens first, rather than blaming stealthy players. Stealth is way more effective than having a beamer who never touches gens.
actually, scratched mirrors counters distortion bcuz there is no way to get stacks back, and myers can just tap the stalk button 3 times and its gone
The lone warrior issue is something that can be fixed with voice chat.
No it does not need a nerf.
We have killers using nowhere to hide or some other aura perks with lethal for free wins on tall loops. And 90% of the listed add on's and perks do not get used. Is it annoying if you run aura builds? Yeah but its also annoying when you don't run it and some killer gets free mind games for 10 seconds. Also add to the fact it can legit do nothing in a round if you are vs stealth or they dont bring aura perks makes it a swing and a miss at times(good for info i will admit, but if you are solo queue that wont help).
Pretty much the only reason it should be nerfed is because of SWF but if the players are smart/good they will already know that the killer is using aura reading based on how the killer plays.
The balance of Dbd never makes sense to me. The reason ultimate weapon is Nerf at least according to survivors is that it does too much for two little investment, but then we have things like distortion or windows or various other perks that do metric tons of things for little investment on Survivor side, and they will never be touched.
5 tokens for 8 seconds each, things like lethal persuer will give you enough time to let you find a pallet at least. it shouldn't be rechargeable but it also should get more uses along the game
I mean haven't plenty of unfun killer stats been removed/nerfed e.g the anti face camp, or even tunneling off hook, I think distortion encourages boring and unfun gameplay. The problem isn't that it's necessarily too strong it's that it's unfun and boring traversing edge of map to edge of map finding no one because they are stealth gaming. Don't get me wrong I would still have a variation of the perk but make it so that it gains fast stacks during chase only. That way it's still a great counter but feels more earned and fun because it encourages interactivity and has that element of risk vs reward. Also that way it doesn't counter lethal which imo is a very healthy perk that as you said gets counter by an entire swift team if they have one person with distortion.
No, no it really isn't because the true problem isn't 'This one perk counters all of this' it's "How free Aura reading truly is" It's not a perk problem it's a playstyle problem where a lot of people who use it WILL try and hide. I am an AVID user of Distortion but I ain't exactly the most stealthy. I use it cause I'm sick of the sheer amount of aura reading allowing killers to just autopilot their way towards me. If Aura reading wasn't as strong as it was, then sure I'd say the perk needs a nerf but when you can rip through all 3 tokens in the span of a minute because a killer has an Aura addon and Perk combo? If anything, they need to make it to where the recharge tokens only happens when IN CHASE rather than in the terror radius.
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@@blazeyprime4470 Sorry being stuck in the hardcap of MMR makes it to where I'm going against nothing but shit like Blights. I streamed almost every hour I've played of this game and I can tell you I am most certainly NOT a rat. Sure I wont just THROW MYSELF at the killer but I'm gonna let you in on a secret. MOST of my games? No one's running aura reading if it isn't the usual offenders so it's a dead perk otherwise.
jeez so we're complaining about aura perks now. it made sense with eruption and deadhard because they stall the game and actively are annoying, but info perks? oof.
I'm going to start complaining about premonition randomly now. just for fun.
@somefuck Yet DH still used very often just not as strong and now DS back to 5 seconds. Do you see any killer perks EVER get reverted or used after being nuked from orbit? No only survivor perks, now go buy your daddy BHVR's new skins lol.
@@Some_Idiot_Online I'm not even complaining about info perks? I'm saying Info is insanely free with it to the point killers are playing on autopilot which I'm fine with, and because of how easy Aura is to access yeah, Discordance is fine. It needs some tuning yes but the nerfs people propose? Hell no, it HAS to be rechargeable but it shouldn't be as easy as it is to recharge. Is it really so wrong to have 1000hrs of game time and sick of the fact at least half of my games have lethal pursuer with several aura perks on a highly mobile killers? It ain't fun. I love a good chase but I hate having Blight sniffing my asshole in the first 10 seconds especially now that Double iri blight exists and has no counter.
no just run gearhead it chews through distortion charges like candy jesus christ not everyone wants to deal with people having 0 ability to use their eyes. I am tired of killers just bitching about random things until its gutted. you dont like it use something that counters it thats it thats the counter healing gutted medkits gutted gen speeds gutted anti slug rework removed boons practically useless cleansing dull totems useless sabotage borderline trolling if you use it. like do you just want us to line up at the start of the match and afk so you can get an easy 4 kill to. stealth is a playstyle and just because you dont like it doesnt mean it needs a nerf I hate dealing with the hag and the artist does that mean they should just remove them? no. for the past like 4 years survivor has been gutted aside from some quality of life buffs for solo que that still doesnt fix your solo que teammates
Ultimate weapon is one of the few ways to beat out distortion, I think the fact that you can regenerate tokens is kinda bs
You should either not be able to earn tokens at all or you should have to earn all of them. Starting with 3 AND earning them is what is so annoying. It feels like I can never burn through them. Also OTR is a counter to aura reading perks/add ons and is fine. Distortion is way more annoying.
GG on kicking cancer’s ass, that’s awesome man!
Survivor perks should never hard counter killers perks, it should've been nerfe from the ptb years ago
What i think they should do is to make so all killers hav they own skills and the higher the prestige gets 1 special perk
Choy is criminally underrated for how good his content is
Im a killer main and I don’t have a problem with people running distortion cause I don’t run aura perks
There are even more things countered by distortion you don't have listed like Amanda's Letter.
Imo it's not Distortion that's OP (I mean, we can absolutely nerf it don't get me wrong), but it's the fact that the devs in the last years have basically pushed an aura reading meta, with only one perk that actually counters them (and technically Off the Record, but let's be honest, nobody uses Off the Record to counter aura reading)
There are like at least a dozen of perks for survivors that are completely useless and stupid (E.G Jane's "Poised"), some of these useless perks could EASILY be reworked into fun alternatives, hell take a DLC like Tools of Toment, 6 survivors perks and only one is considered good, the others are just garbage filler, and they could easily make them something better and new and more fun...
Distortion was a super shitty perk some years ago but I liked it because it was unique and the Aura meta was not that prevalent, then it was buffed to have 4 tokens and I was happy, then it got reworked in whatever it is now, and I cannot run the perk without looking like a new player cuz everyone is abusing it, but truth be told it's literally the only perk that counters this meta so it's kinda also a given.
Distortion as as healthy as pop goes the easel or Pain Reno, all that hard work of gens gone .
Actually I’d say it’s even more useless, killer doesn’t run aura reading and you wasted a slot. Pop goes the weasel or Pain Reno will always gain value regardless of what the survivors run.
I bring distortion and the killer has no aura perks. I take it off and they have four aura perks, two aura addons, and wall hacks just in case
I run deliverance I get hooked first. I take it off I get hooked fourth.
Perfect balance.
I just think the perk shouldn't get tokens back during a chase or in the dying state like stake out
casually dropping that you beat cancer is the ultimate chad move
I hate distortion players in my lobby even as a solo queuer because they overwhelmingly fall into the stereotype of "teammates" who don't do anything all game but hide while you get tunneled and have to juggle repairs, rescues and running the killers all by your self. 💩 On killer it's annoying too.
My idea to change distortion was to make it have a base of 4 stacks that only come back after you are un hooked. Which means you can hide but will eventually be found I do like the gen idea tho. Also FUCK CANCER glad to hear dude
I'm glad to hear you're better bro, you're one of the better dbd content creators with a level head, keep up the good work
Simple solution, don’t run aura reading perks. If you don’t run any, distortion becomes useless. When I play killer, I never run any aura reading perks. Or just run gearhead to counter distortion, most people can’t hit great skill checks lol
don't bring a flashlight the killer might have lightborn
Well that's the issue. Distortion discourages people from running aura perks which heavily reinforces the gen slowdown meta, making games more boring for everyone. Also stealth gameplay is boring
@@rexpants I never bring flashlights anyway.
@@bonkripper6103 There are plenty more builds that are way more fun than slowdown and aura reading, most people just don’t like to change this up (plus most survivors run hard meta as well).
@@bonkripper6103 My comment was a joke on how your solution is such a NON solution. The way you play is YOUR playstyle, other people enjoy other things and just telling them to just play a different way is dumb. Just because YOU find a playstyle fun or unfun does not mean it's the same for everyone. I stopped running aura perks months ago but it doesn't mean it's difficult to understand the frustration of an uncounterable perk (Running gearhead may be a 'counter' but why would you run it if you don't know the survivor has distortion 😭)
Hear me out, older killer players weren't overly reliant on aura reading like they are today
blocks killers aura reading for 10 seconds
User must be in in killers radius for 30 seconds
This is somewhat fair as Survs have to go out of their way and put themselves in danger to benefit from Distortion. (It's risk vs reward)
Man I'm mad. I've been proposing that Distortion should charge with Conspicuous actions (Healing / Doing Gens) for a long time now but Deadbeat DbD Chat stole my idea.
It's simultaneously a nerf to immersed players who hide all game and then take hatch and a buff to the perk against stealth killers.
Survivors don't go in with radios. So long as people decide to use voice chat or text during a match. Many SWF's will be super strong.
The problem with distortion is that it keeps rewarding being passive rather than using it offensively, if being in chase recharged tokens rather than being hidden, it would be useful for skilled chase survivors.
Ps. Gen progress for stacks is also a really good change, cause it encourages you to still progress the game
IDEA: STACKS ONLY BURN WHILE OBJECTIVE IS BEING DONE! It hides you wheh on gen but standing by will do nothing
Congrats with the battle against cancer. I have a question, does Whispers counter Distortion?
I wouldn't wish cancer on my worst enemy. That's awesome that you beat it. I'm looking forward to seeing what you put out in the future.
Can we also question why some perks getting that strong? Maybe perks themself are way to strong for the game.
killers now r crying abt distortion no way u guys r sick as hell
Yeah sure, lets nerf the only thing for Survivors who are not good in chases...
People forget about this but Shadow step exist to hide your and thw whole team's aura,nit just ain't convinient ig😅
So its ok for people to keep running bbq and chili and lethal pursuer every game but distortion, the only way to counter those perks and other aura reading abilities, is the problem💀
I use aura perks because i keep my volume considerably low because i hate how dynamic the audio levels get. To have a single perk completely destroy my ability to find and track survivors blows
Personally, I think there is *too much* aura reading in DBD at the moment
Way too many builds absolutely obliterate distortion as is, especially against stealth killers.
Typing this before watching the whole vid, but my thought has always been that the perks effect is fine, it’s just how you get more tokens that is the problem. Getting tokens in a chase would be a great way to stop people hiding on the edge of the map, but also may benefit those who are already great at chase.
Edit: congrats on beating cancer gg no re as the others have said🔥🙏
Lost almost all family members to cancer. Glad to hear the news.
how does it counter scratched mirror, itll work for thirty seconds and then like never work again
Lol what if we got a ghillie suit skin and paired it with this perk.
I think stealth killers having an easier time with distortion is intentional, scratched Myers against distortion would be miserable if they had other ways to get stacks back.
hopefully they don't make any design choices based on the fact hatch exists. hatch needs to be removed from the game.
They reverted the change of ultimate weapon.
How about gaining stacks for being in chase instead? "Cowards" can do gens just fine, that's why they're using distortion in the first place. Why not incentivize something other than hiding or sitting on a corner gen? Guy sits on gen, loses stack to BBQ, stays on gen, gains stack. Meh.
If someone wants to actively avoid getting discovered by the killer to get hatch they can just jump between lockers. They wouldn't even need to gain stacks as they wouldn't even lose the initial 3 stacks in the first place because of the limited exposure to the outside. People who want to play like rats can do so without a problem even if Distortion was removed yesterday.
As a pig player, I'm not sure if I should be offended that you didn't add Amanda's Letter to your list, or happy that you understand that it actually counters Distortion.
Distortion is fine, I have no issue with it other than I think if you are using it just to outright hide the entire match you are not really using it to its full potential. Plus you rob yourself of chances to improve at the game by constantly avoiding chases
personally, i use distortion for both avoiding giving the killer intel and countering i'm all ears during chases.
if you know how to utilize stealth and aggro, this perk is a must have
also congratulations on beating cancer