Seriously? This is the first time hearing this or comprehending instantly without having to listen over and over then researching the product. I love it when people break it down so well that an elementary student knows exactly what she’s talking about! I started skin care late so had no clue! TY
I was using ROC retinol and recently switched to Avene’s RetinAL eye cream. I’ve noticed so much of a difference in about 6 weeks with it! When I’m out of all of my retinol products, I’m going to the full face of RetinAL by Avene. I’m loving their products! My dermatologist recommended them since I can’t afford Skinceuticals until I start working again.
Hey I came from a mom from The deep South that said hey wash your face and use these Mary Kay products and everything will be fine and didn't hear anything else about specific age related skincare I'm so glad that you shared this I did not know I'm starting over at 52.ty😊
What are the points of conversion though? What activates them? Does that happen automatically in the skin as it's absorbed? Is another ingredient/product needed? If so is that ingredient automatically in the retinal product?
It happens automatically. Your body will always attempt to break down compounds into their simplest forms before they can be utilized. It's kinda like how starch is broken down into glucose first before it is utilized by your cells.
I can tell you this. Since it needs to be converted, and by the time it actually has been so when on skin, it's pretty useless. Vitamin A is sensitive for daylight, and if in need to be on skin for an amount of time before getting active, it has lost most of it's potential.
I would like to thank you for putting your RUclips shirts up I am 52 years old and my mother is from Texas the deep South all I heard growing up as a little girl was you have your. Wash your face use Mary Kay and you'll be fine so I purchased your base products and I love them they're amazing I have not ever had any other facial care other than that I'm blessed that I did not have a lot of horrible stuff with my skin but now I have your products and I enjoy them I've been using them for 2 weeks now and I'm so thankful for them I hope you continue to do your RUclips shorts because I am learning from you even at 52 thank you so much!😊
I think it's Some By Mi serum. I've used those once. It has the same amount of ingredients she/he listed with 0.1 retinal and bakuchiol. I believe it also contains retinol too. @@quitschool9820
She means retinol is the least effective, not the most gentle. Retinal is more effective than retinol but more gentle at the same time. I used Skinceuticals retinol but then changed to the Avene retinal. SO much more gentle. Comes in a fragrance free version, too.
@@JL-th1nbmany estheticians have been able to help patients that derms couldn’t. Derms can overdo it and not care for the barrier which is vitally important. Tretinoin is very strong and can be too much for many people. Retinaldehyde is the most gentle of the three. I recommend it to my clients who are more sensitive and already have thinner skin or barrier issues. I have a wonderful one that doesn’t irritate at all.
Because it is!! Retinaldehyde only has the one conversion to Retinoic acid, not Tretinoin. Tretinoin is theRx version. The one conversion means less irritation etc. I recommend it to my clients all of the time because it is better in protecting the barrier for less disruption and adjustment time.
Love your explanations. I'm an absolute beginner to skincare routine products and ur wisdom helps me a lot to choose the better ones. Thank you for sharing your knowledge 💜.
I was also confused by this so just did some research, essentially once you’ve applied it to your skin your body does the work of conversion! If you’re interested in a more scientific explanation here’s a more simple one: “First, retinol is oxidised to form retinal. Then retinal is oxidised to generate retinoic acid, which binds to retinoid receptors of skin cells-a step necessary to allow it to enter the nucleus and bind with DNA. It is the action of retinoic acid on the DNA that accounts for all the biological effects on the skin.” So the oxidisation happens after application with oxygen exposure then it is absorbed into the skin and binds the the relevant receptors in your skin cells (which then send your body instructions, in this case about cell turnover and cell health!) Hope that helps! Here’s the link if you want to read more :)) bdng.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/A-Star-Vitamin-A.pdf
I have been using the middle one and it is doing wonders for me! (35 yr old with lots of uneven scar demage skin) + vitc ❤ I don’t know if it is worth pushing to the third stringer one… maybe when I get to 40s but this middle one is really worth it and it is not tremendously expensive
I started saving money since watching her skin care videos! Only thing I get mixed up is with glycolic acid for people of color. Im latina and my skin color is 2 shades more deeper than yours. Im pale, red spots and you can see my green vains lol. I started to get darker with my glycolic acid 10% from La roche posay
I have the exact same question. The ordinary has 2% and 5% Granactive retinoids and I have recently started moving from the 2% to the 5% one, and I am not clear what should be the next vitamin A derivative that I should be using after this 5% Granactive retinoids!
It’s fairly new in terms of the research but basically, granactive retinoid is a retinoic acid ester which means it falls somewhere in the middle of conversion & potency. But again, the research is comparatively young. Or in other words: Retinyl ester (retinyl palmitate) -> retinol (.3%/.5%/1%) -> retinoic acid ester (granactive retinoid) -> retinal (retinaldehyde) -> retinoic acid (tretinoin)
Omg yes forehead was the worst for me too!! Pimple patches really helped with this 😅 mine settled after around 3 months then at 4 months I increased from 0.2% to 0.5%, hope your skin settles soon 🤞 hang in there!
@@sarahcameron4480 Thank you! I already had a consultation with my dermatologist and she prescribed me adapalene 0.1%/benzoyl peroxide 2.5%. She told me that the side effects are likely to become similar with retinol. But I noticed that for the first 3 days, my pimples in my forehead are drying up so fast with it. I’m having high hopes🤞🏼✨
Oh wow! I startet with 2% and was fine. But also I used BHA2% and AHA10% twice a day for many years. Maybe that’s why? Or maybe because I have oily skin and acne 🤔 I don’t know but I can tell you: when you get to the 2% you will have the “wow effect” every morning! It’s soo good
@@Tea-pe1yq Hi! I have a very oily skin too! I already shifted to Epiduo which is prescribed by my dermatologist. She also prescribed me a cleanser with 1% salicylic acid, glycolic acid, vitamin C and tea tree oil. At first, I thought that a retinoid can’t be used with AHA/BHA. But the combo of the cleanser and Epiduo, with my moisturizer and sunscreen also, has improved my skin texture a lot! Before, I used Cetaphil cleanser with Epiduo but the skin texture made it worse and my breakouts never stopped appearing. Now that I changed my cleanser, I only had minimal breakouts and my only issue now is my dark marks/PIH, which could take months before they gradually fade. My dermatologist also told me that I need to shift to Tretinoin 0.05% once I consumed the Epiduo.
Why not just get the prescription? It's cheaper, but it's hard to use because it high concentration. Can you lower the concentration prescription by adding lotion or something?
I have used the prescription strenth with a prescription for a very long time, decided to go to the more gentle retinoid, which has worked very well. My skin s I have gotten older my skin has become more sensitive so this is working for me1
Thank you for explaining the difference! If one chooses to use retinal instead of retinol, what would you recommend the starting concentration for beginners for retinal? I noticed the Ordinary has a 0.2% retinal concentration, I wasn't sure if that would be too much for my skin as a beginner
Not true. The more conversions, the more potential for irritation. Retinaldehyde is very gentle, way more so than retinol. It causes much less irritation, inflammation, redness and flaking.
I started with option A, then went to a low dose of option C (.25) for one year and then went to options C at a higher dose.50. I see the derm Tuesday!
I would suggest moving on to a retinal/retinaldehyde. The one from Naturium is great. They have the 0.05% to start and then the 0.10% for when you’re ready to move up
@@Meowhappieit’s actually gentler on the skin and is one step closer to Retinoic acid, the version skin actually uses. Tretinoin is the Rx version of Retinoic acid, but can be very inflammatory, irritating and lead to erythema (redness), flaking, and dryness.
After viewing your videos, I'm feeling a bit apprehensive. I recently acquired a retinAl eye serum, and since my skin tends to be very sensitive (it's almost red but not quite rosacea) and is extremely dry to the point of almost peeling, I'm concerned. Now that I'm 30, I believe it's crucial to incorporate retinol into my skincare regimen, and this is my first time trying it out. However, I accidentally purchased retinAl instead of retinOl. My question is, will this be alright? Could it potentially make my skin drier over time or cause other issues? I haven't experienced any discomfort or sensitivity from using it so far.
I am using the cleanser, cosrx peptide, cosrx essence, mediheal collagen + retinol toner pad and last cosrx all in one cream at night. Questions 1. Is that enough retinol? 2. Am I layering on too much product? 3.can the toner pads cause fungal acne?
Seriously? This is the first time hearing this or comprehending instantly without having to listen over and over then researching the product. I love it when people break it down so well that an elementary student knows exactly what she’s talking about! I started skin care late so had no clue! TY
me too! skincare virginity broken as of october 23!
She's very good at explaining, yes.
Perfect, simple explanation! 😊
Why can’t everyone else explain it this simple! 😂.. you’re the BEST ❤
Gosh, what an educational and informative piece we all need in a very direct and life saving advice! Thank you so much 👏
Simpley put. Im understanding so much more now.
I was using ROC retinol and recently switched to Avene’s RetinAL eye cream. I’ve noticed so much of a difference in about 6 weeks with it! When I’m out of all of my retinol products, I’m going to the full face of RetinAL by Avene. I’m loving their products! My dermatologist recommended them since I can’t afford Skinceuticals until I start working again.
Best visual aid EVER! Thanks Doc!
You're such a good educator. Thank you 🩷
Hey I came from a mom from The deep South that said hey wash your face and use these Mary Kay products and everything will be fine and didn't hear anything else about specific age related skincare I'm so glad that you shared this I did not know I'm starting over at 52.ty😊
Wow, I always thought Retinal was gentler than Retinol, haha. Thanks for the advice, Doc! ❤
Retinal side effects can be gentler (especially if it’s encapsulated), but it’s efficacy is stronger.
This is why I love this page
What are the points of conversion though? What activates them? Does that happen automatically in the skin as it's absorbed? Is another ingredient/product needed? If so is that ingredient automatically in the retinal product?
It happens automatically. Your body will always attempt to break down compounds into their simplest forms before they can be utilized. It's kinda like how starch is broken down into glucose first before it is utilized by your cells.
@@vickiebenson7980 Thank you for the clarification!
Oh my goodness I love your question I was wondering the same but didn’t know how to say it
@@vickiebenson7980 which one is better for sensitive skin?
I can tell you this. Since it needs to be converted, and by the time it actually has been so when on skin, it's pretty useless. Vitamin A is sensitive for daylight, and if in need to be on skin for an amount of time before getting active, it has lost most of it's potential.
I would like to thank you for putting your RUclips shirts up I am 52 years old and my mother is from Texas the deep South all I heard growing up as a little girl was you have your. Wash your face use Mary Kay and you'll be fine so I purchased your base products and I love them they're amazing I have not ever had any other facial care other than that I'm blessed that I did not have a lot of horrible stuff with my skin but now I have your products and I enjoy them I've been using them for 2 weeks now and I'm so thankful for them I hope you continue to do your RUclips shorts because I am learning from you even at 52 thank you so much!😊
In korea, Bukuchiol is equivalent of natural retinol. I have serum with .1 retinol retinal and bukuchiol
Bukuchiol is a great alternative to those who don’t want to use retinols. It’s in a lot of American products also.
What is that serum called?
@@quitschool9820 I have mine somebymi retinol. Its really intensive formulation. Check it out
What's the name of the product?
I think it's Some By Mi serum. I've used those once. It has the same amount of ingredients she/he listed with 0.1 retinal and bakuchiol. I believe it also contains retinol too. @@quitschool9820
That’s a perfect way of explaining it. Thank you so much.
Perfect example and explanation. Thank you. I have never seen anybody do this.
Thank you, doctor for making it so simple. You are the best! I loved watching your short videos.
Great information and education. One of the best sites on RUclips for reliability. 👍👍👍
She means retinol is the least effective, not the most gentle. Retinal is more effective than retinol but more gentle at the same time. I used Skinceuticals retinol but then changed to the Avene retinal. SO much more gentle. Comes in a fragrance free version, too.
No retinol is the most gentle
She's a doctor, the expert
@@ClearSmoke100no it’s not. Retinaldehyde is more so than any of them. And it converts to Retinoic acid. Tretinoin is the Rx version of Retinoic acid.
@@JL-th1nbmany estheticians have been able to help patients that derms couldn’t. Derms can overdo it and not care for the barrier which is vitally important. Tretinoin is very strong and can be too much for many people. Retinaldehyde is the most gentle of the three. I recommend it to my clients who are more sensitive and already have thinner skin or barrier issues. I have a wonderful one that doesn’t irritate at all.
@@wquinonez1477May I ask which one you recommend to your clients? I would like to try it. Thank you ❤
She has really beautiful skin.
Very helpful! Interestingly, I’ve heard others say retinal is the most gentle one and better for sensitive skin 🤷🏼♀️
I've heard the same!! 🤔
yes, me too. 😬
Because it is!! Retinaldehyde only has the one conversion to Retinoic acid, not Tretinoin. Tretinoin is theRx version. The one conversion means less irritation etc. I recommend it to my clients all of the time because it is better in protecting the barrier for less disruption and adjustment time.
Thank you.South AFRICA ,CAPE TOWN. LOVE YOUR TEACHINGS😊
My favorite one is the CRISTAL RETINAL 6 of MEDIK8 the one of my best!! 😊😊😊 in my night routine
I started with level 3
I’ve been watching you and Dr Dray about skincare and THIS IS SOOO HELPFUL THANK YOU 😍
I was just looking up for answers for this. Thankyou so much Dr. Idris 💗 love youuu
omg oxidation from alcohol to aldehyde to carboxylic acid - im literally learning this in chemistry class rn!!
Best described video I've seen thus far ❤
Love your explanations. I'm an absolute beginner to skincare routine products and ur wisdom helps me a lot to choose the better ones.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge 💜.
Brilliantly explained thank you
Very concise and clear explanation!
Thanks for explaining the types of retinol. I use tretinoin 1%. Fortunately Never had any adverse reactions.
Same here, never had adverse reactions to tretinoin 1% and been using it every other day for about 15 yrs.
Where do you find your tretinoin?
@@sabelanieto7391 from my Dr. it’s not covered by insurance, at least not for anyone. I have to pay full price but a tube will last me all year
Can you explain what you mean by conversion? This is fascinating and something we didn’t not cover in esthetics school. Thank you 🙏.
I was also confused by this so just did some research, essentially once you’ve applied it to your skin your body does the work of conversion! If you’re interested in a more scientific explanation here’s a more simple one:
“First, retinol is oxidised to form retinal. Then retinal is oxidised to generate retinoic acid, which binds to retinoid receptors of skin cells-a step necessary to allow it to enter the nucleus and bind with DNA. It is the action of retinoic acid on the DNA that accounts for all the biological effects on the skin.” So the oxidisation happens after application with oxygen exposure then it is absorbed into the skin and binds the the relevant receptors in your skin cells (which then send your body instructions, in this case about cell turnover and cell health!)
Hope that helps! Here’s the link if you want to read more :))
bdng.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/A-Star-Vitamin-A.pdf
Best explanation ever.
Omg so many different vitamins/products! I'll stick to SPF, cleanser and moisturiser for now 😬😵💫🤞🏾✌🏾Thanks though.
I definitely recommend you try retinol if you have sun damage. You will see your skin improve after a few months.
Pozdrav
Koji bi meni preporučila? 47.godina imam,i zanima me, pošto ne razumijem, za početnike koji je to postotak retinola?hvala 😊
This may be a dumb question, but how long does it take for the conversion. Hours?
Any question to clear confusion isn't dumb at all.
Thank you for this video. I totally understand it so much better than before...
Where does adapalene fall into these categories?
It's active like tretinoin, but better for acne not any aging.
You are seriously the best!
I learn sooo much from watching your videos!❤
I always wondered how that worked. You are amazing and your lamens terms 🤯. Thanks you rock!
Just....thank you!!! You make it so simple 😊
OMG you explained that so well! Thank you!
Best explanation, ever. Thank you
I have been using the middle one and it is doing wonders for me! (35 yr old with lots of uneven scar demage skin) + vitc
❤ I don’t know if it is worth pushing to the third stringer one… maybe when I get to 40s but this middle one is really worth it and it is not tremendously expensive
Exactly! This is what I keep saying. Im not sure why she said what she did. But I don’t always agree with her, so 🤷🏼♀️
What is the Retinal that you use?
@@stephie8978Avene retrinAL. It’s made at 0.05% and 0.1%.
Wow, great information!!! ❤
So cute dermatologist .
Where does adapalene fall in?
Adapalene is a prescription retinoid, it is already active.
Differin is the best
Love your channel. You remind me of lady gaga ❤
Yes. Omg someone else also sees it evwrytime she pops up I see lady gaga 😂
Where does Adapalene fit into this?
I started saving money since watching her skin care videos! Only thing I get mixed up is with glycolic acid for people of color. Im latina and my skin color is 2 shades more deeper than yours. Im pale, red spots and you can see my green vains lol. I started to get darker with my glycolic acid 10% from La roche posay
I didn't understand anything but something about this was super cool
What about Granactive Retinoid from the ordinary? Where is that on the list?
I have the exact same question. The ordinary has 2% and 5% Granactive retinoids and I have recently started moving from the 2% to the 5% one, and I am not clear what should be the next vitamin A derivative that I should be using after this 5% Granactive retinoids!
@@azrabahadori9405 I have just moved to Tretinoin from Dermatica. Costs almost the same and is stronger 😊
It’s fairly new in terms of the research but basically, granactive retinoid is a retinoic acid ester which means it falls somewhere in the middle of conversion & potency. But again, the research is comparatively young.
Or in other words:
Retinyl ester (retinyl palmitate) -> retinol (.3%/.5%/1%) -> retinoic acid ester (granactive retinoid) -> retinal (retinaldehyde) -> retinoic acid (tretinoin)
Dzam girl . Thank you so much, as I go grab my adapelene tube instead of my Ordinary Retinol. Thank you so much.
Having so much purging in my forehead for 6 weeks from my retinol tells me that I need to stay at this 0.1% concentration for a while 😅
It took me like 9 months to finally have semi clear skin
Omg yes forehead was the worst for me too!! Pimple patches really helped with this 😅 mine settled after around 3 months then at 4 months I increased from 0.2% to 0.5%, hope your skin settles soon 🤞 hang in there!
@@sarahcameron4480 Thank you! I already had a consultation with my dermatologist and she prescribed me adapalene 0.1%/benzoyl peroxide 2.5%. She told me that the side effects are likely to become similar with retinol. But I noticed that for the first 3 days, my pimples in my forehead are drying up so fast with it. I’m having high hopes🤞🏼✨
Oh wow! I startet with 2% and was fine. But also I used BHA2% and AHA10% twice a day for many years. Maybe that’s why?
Or maybe because I have oily skin and acne 🤔 I don’t know but I can tell you: when you get to the 2% you will have the “wow effect” every morning! It’s soo good
@@Tea-pe1yq Hi! I have a very oily skin too! I already shifted to Epiduo which is prescribed by my dermatologist. She also prescribed me a cleanser with 1% salicylic acid, glycolic acid, vitamin C and tea tree oil. At first, I thought that a retinoid can’t be used with AHA/BHA. But the combo of the cleanser and Epiduo, with my moisturizer and sunscreen also, has improved my skin texture a lot! Before, I used Cetaphil cleanser with Epiduo but the skin texture made it worse and my breakouts never stopped appearing. Now that I changed my cleanser, I only had minimal breakouts and my only issue now is my dark marks/PIH, which could take months before they gradually fade. My dermatologist also told me that I need to shift to Tretinoin 0.05% once I consumed the Epiduo.
Why not just get the prescription? It's cheaper, but it's hard to use because it high concentration. Can you lower the concentration prescription by adding lotion or something?
I UNDERSTAND … THANK YOU
I have used the prescription strenth with a prescription for a very long time, decided to go to the more gentle retinoid, which has worked very well. My skin s I have gotten older my skin has become more sensitive so this is working for me1
Huh! Retinol is the most gentle? I dried me like crazy (as opposed to retinal).
Also, you are a great teacher.
❤❤❤ you always won my heart.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for explaining the difference! If one chooses to use retinal instead of retinol, what would you recommend the starting concentration for beginners for retinal? I noticed the Ordinary has a 0.2% retinal concentration, I wasn't sure if that would be too much for my skin as a beginner
You are just awesome ❤
I use something called Granactive retinoid. Where does that fall in this spectrum?
Looooord. She just said it, listen. So dumb!
Not true. The more conversions, the more potential for irritation. Retinaldehyde is very gentle, way more so than retinol. It causes much less irritation, inflammation, redness and flaking.
I love your videos♥️
Damn, you are really good 💜🎄
But I thought retinal aka I understand retinal palmitate was more gentle and a little less active on the skin
You’re thinking of retinyl* palmitate. Retinal is short for retinaldehyde is a different thing :)
Wow ur good ur a gem ! Thank you !❤
I started with option A, then went to a low dose of option C (.25) for one year and then went to options C at a higher dose.50. I see the derm Tuesday!
just use prescription, its more effective
Such a simple explanation. I thought retinol was the strongest😅
Is it necessary to upgrade to stronger one or just keeping with retinol does the work?
I would suggest moving on to a retinal/retinaldehyde. The one from Naturium is great. They have the 0.05% to start and then the 0.10% for when you’re ready to move up
@@elasia. you suggest, but is it necessary?
@@Meowhappieit’s actually gentler on the skin and is one step closer to Retinoic acid, the version skin actually uses. Tretinoin is the Rx version of Retinoic acid, but can be very inflammatory, irritating and lead to erythema (redness), flaking, and dryness.
please tell about granactive retinoid as well!!
So how do they get active? Is there something in the products that does that??
It happens on/in your skin.
Yes!! Now I get it 😊
What about Adapalene?
I just started 0.05% tretinoin. I recommend starting with something over the counter first.
How concentrated is the beauty of joseon retinal eye serum?
I am afraid of retinol for some reason 😅 side effects maybe so i stick to bakuchiol
After viewing your videos, I'm feeling a bit apprehensive. I recently acquired a retinAl eye serum, and since my skin tends to be very sensitive (it's almost red but not quite rosacea) and is extremely dry to the point of almost peeling, I'm concerned. Now that I'm 30, I believe it's crucial to incorporate retinol into my skincare regimen, and this is my first time trying it out. However, I accidentally purchased retinAl instead of retinOl. My question is, will this be alright? Could it potentially make my skin drier over time or cause other issues? I haven't experienced any discomfort or sensitivity from using it so far.
So wheres retinoid stands on the process?
How does it get converted? Prayer? Hope? Just happens naturally?
I use treclinax. It contains tretinoin.
Thank you ❤
Thank you
can you please recommend RETINAL serums/cream
So using only retinol is not effective for the skin ?
Where would Differin Gel for Acne Fall on This?
Basically go to your dermatologist and get the prescription for the real deal...tretinoin (active form). Its cheaper and immediately effective.
I’ve heard retinal was more gentle as in side effects
Ah! Ok. Lol. I'll stay with the gentle. The other two steps blew my mind.😅
Can u make a video about bukuchiol and tretinoin 0.025 cus I have both and I use both😅
i’m confused. what’s the point of even getting the things that “aren’t converted”?
What about adapalene? Its active but not as irritating as tretinoin right?
I am using the cleanser, cosrx peptide, cosrx essence, mediheal collagen + retinol toner pad and last cosrx all in one cream at night. Questions 1. Is that enough retinol? 2. Am I layering on too much product? 3.can the toner pads cause fungal acne?
And what about Adapalene
Thank you! Now is gel better than cream tretinoin?
Is eating food with vitamin A just as important as using skincare with vitamin A?
Of course. But no guarantee that the stuff you eat will go to your face. So you still need your skincare.
would love to hear your opinion on tazarotene 😊❤