I just bought the new 2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum and I absolutely love it, no regrets. I love all the features and value. Overall, I prefer the Nissan Pathfinder over the Kia Telluride.
The driver is the most important person in the vehicle. Nissan understands the driver need to have the most room and be the most comfortable. The lives of the other passengers are in the drivers hands.
I bought the 2022 pathfinder after taking back my deposit with kia. It's just my wife and I we love the better gas mileage a recent 3 hour trip with ac and music on blast got 29.4MPG. Kia was not worth the price increase for all the 2nd and 3rd row when we will only use it once or twice a a year.
I drove both bought the pathfinder. Real world price was better, real world 3rd row seating was better, more modern tech, and funner to drive than Telluride. Interior material looked a little more upscale in the Kia but the pathfinder looked more modern. Both are very very nice medium size SUVs.
Just bought the new Nissan pathfinder Platinum. I test drove the Kia telluride... but here in Florida Kia is charging $18,000 over MSRP because they say that they have the top SUV. Making it approximately $68,000 - $72,000 for the top trim, I say Kia can keep their Telluride. This is my 3rd pathfinder and I LOVE IT!
When I was looking at the Toyota sienna and the Kia carnival in Wilmington North Carolina, the Carnaval Dealer wanted six and $10,000 above MSRP for the Kia carnival van. I believe they were asking almost 15,000 over MSRP for the Telluride. I think it’s horrible and completely unjustified.
Good for you! I experienced the same thing. Few years back they used to beg people to buy their cars. Now that they make a halfway decent one, they think they’re BMW! The pathfinder is great - enjoy!
To paraphrase a comment attributed to Mark Twain about himself, "The reports of (Nissan's) death have been greatly exaggerated." And one of the advantages of being late to a party is that you get a chance to see what everyone else is wearing. It's clear that Nissan benchmarked the Telluride in the design and features of the new Pathfinder. It may not be the earthshaking vehicle that the Telluride has been but it's clearly a credible contestant and superior to a number of other rivals. Andrea, the reason the Pathfinder's hood is so long is that it's an approach used by auto designers, especially those who design sports cars, for nearly a century. to suggest potency and performance even though it sacrifices interior space. If you wonder why, check with Sigmund Freud.
I want a Pathfinder so bad get the Platinum. Love my 2015 Rogue but interior kind of small still a great car. So happy the Pathfinder doesn't have that CVT anymore just worry about a early model car hope doesn't suffer any reliability issues love this car so much. Thinking hard taking a test drive in this baby what a beauty new tech, beautiful styling and great interior. I really love Nissan.
getting rid of the cvt was the biggest change nissan needed to do. hopefully they will continue the trend. Personally i'd probably go palisade. Just love the interior, especially how they do the cup holder area.
Telluride is just beautiful. I don't think anyone will dethrone it anytime soon. People who have never driven a Telluride should really give it a shot rather than being a badge warrior and just goes for Pathfinder.
@@fivesevenfloors9939 but it's a Nissan, 😆, let's trust a company that's almost going bankrupt, cutting costs to deliver quality product, unless you own shares of Nissan (my condolences 😆)
@@fivesevenfloors9939 it’s funny because I’ve seen this reply a few times. “It’s still a Kia.” that is all they have to say because fact is, the telluride is killing it. Kia is destroying even luxury vehicles these days, thanks to the BMW designers that work for Kia now.
@@totojojo5559 At least Nissan has a rich history of creating & producing legendary vehicles (Z, Maxima, GTR, Pathfinder, etc) which are still heralded today while Kia has a illustrious history of creating & producing..........JUNK! *LOL*
@@TheBjjones just like Lehman Brothers in finance had great 150 year legacy, where are they now? LOL. BTW I hope you don't drive by looking only in the rear view mirror, you might crash, if you understand what I mean 😉.
I feel more for Pathfinder of course.) Reasonable size and great useability inside, nice engine. Interior is brand new while Telluride is like old KIA ( Both are great but I prefer Nissan.
Fantastic comparison between these two new crossovers. 👏 Both of these vehicles offer so many features and accouterments that it makes it a tough choice. The Telluride is a better designed vehicle in my opinion. I prefer the exterior styling more on the Telluride compared to the new Pathfinder. The Pathfinder has a nicer instrumentation cluster and I also like the dashboard layout more than the Telluride. Both of these utilities offer a lot. It's nice to see Nissan coming out with solid competition, but I think the Telluride will find more customers and be the better seller.
Pathfinder coz of higher headroom in the third row. I am 5.10 and my head touches the top in the 3rd row of Telluride; so uncomfortable. I don’t know why headroom is always ignored in almost all auto reviews. Thanks for the great work!
@Mr G Well if third row is for kids only, then leg room does not matter as much as head room. Kids can fit even in a compact 3 row. Why spend extra on a mid-sized 3 row!!
@Mr G My point is for some 5.10-5.11 pathfinder provides adequate leg room, although less that Telluride. However, much better headroom compared than Telluride. So, for me it’s more practical choice than Telluride; adequate leg room and adequate headroom, compared to great leg room and cramped headroom in Telluride. I would prefer a bit less legroom over my head touching the top.
@Mr G The point I was trying to make was that the headroom is as important consideration as legroom and should be considered while comparing. For some buyers it might be important!
Great comparison. I'd go for the Kia I think, but the Nissan looks good as well. I like the styling of the Telluride more and the longer warranty is a plus.
Awesome video Andrea and Zack! This was the perfect comparison between the two vehicles. However, I think I still prefer the Pathfinder as it has a very refreshed look and love Nissan's new transmission - thank god they got out of the CVT transmission
Zach is definitely leaning Telluride! It's better looking, more refined, more spacious, more powerful, better tuned transmission, longer warranty, a better overall package and likely better resale value. The Pathfinder has the nice digital cockpit in higher trims, more towing capability and better overall color choices inside and out especially with the two tone black roof option with many colors. Telluride still leads the way but given it's huge popularity in the U.S. in particular you may not got a good deal especially now with the "chip shortage crisis" and the back log of customers orders particularly for the EX and SX trims. Love to see the Telluride compared to the new Jeep Grand Cherokee L at similar pricing. Maybe The Telluride SX-P vs the GCL Limited/Overland! Great comparison guys!
I definitely agree with the lag in acceleration/pickup in the 2022 Pathfinder. It’s a little bothersome when trying to merge on expressway or when trying to pass cars.
I like the direction Nissan is going. While everyone applaud Pathfinder going from CVT into ZF 9 AT. This ZF 9AT has iffy quality problems, from what we have witnessed in both FCA and Honda/Acura. The jerking problem has been well documented of this transmission. I hope ZF has addressed the quality issue with Pathfinder's execution. Its also the reason why Honda Passport is a slow seller, other than the HondaLink infotainment class action in the States. Between these 2, I would take Telluride is a heartbeat. But will definitely take Pathfinder into consideration, which is predecessor will never be.
Too many badge warriors here saying they will get the Pathfinder. Just test drive a Telluride and trust me you will change your mind. Times change... people just have a hard time accepting it. Kia and Hyundai are making one of the best cars right now. Better get them when they are still cheap because they will get more expensive as time goes.
i tested the Telluride and there was nothing wow factor. 2nd and third row seats look smaller in person for some reason. I wasn’t too crazy about the comfort.
Around here, the Pathfinders are selling fast. They are not lasting a week at the dealers. I was wondering about the transmission. Honda had a field day dealing with ZF and they finally went in to re-program it. I'll wait until it's been updated.
Nissan need to go back to the drawing board and make vehicles that are more reliable. There are too many mechanical problems and that explains losing sales especially with infinity brand. Hope this pathfinder is reliable than other Nissan cars.
I like to take my canoe and my bikes out sometimes. The Pathfinder has a "real" roofrack where I can re-use my sturdy crossbars to attach one or two boats to. Also most models come standard with the towing hitch which is handy for a proper bikerack. You didn't mention any of that in your review, but i think for those people who really need to use SUVs (rather than like being seen in them) these are quite important considerations.
Canoe & bikes can go on top of most sedans. Outdoor folks use sedan and Subie like to use bike or even trucks not SUV like Pathfiner. Most people would need a ladder to load things top of medium/larger SUV. SMH
@@Jgjginkg244 He said he uses the towing hitch...i.e. tow hitch mount bike rack, mine carries 5 bikes at a time. No need for a ladder, no need to put on a roof (I hate seeing it, as the bike flails on the roof).... Your basically saying to carry a bike a sedan or a truck is best when a SUV can do it just fine...oh boy...
this is the best review I ever see，great video. Got my pathfinder 2023 SL premium in Canada today，kia telluride is way long to wait and higer price with higher interest rate. Compare to the 22 version, the 23pathfinder got smoother start, but auto off is such a nightmare, have to turn off everytime is kind of boring. 2things i think pathfinder win telluride, first is the new IIHS side impact test resaults, you can see the second row side airbag help to protect 2nd row passanger. second thing is pathfinder have some robber protecter under the door frame, which place i got a lot of snow deposit on my CRV. 2 good things i think telluride have and pathfinder should improve are the side view camera when you flash turn signal, and the larger cargo lenth after 3rd row up.just a inch longer comon! i like the looks of pathfinder, maybe because im getting old.
Brilliant comparison, as usual. The most important question, though, is whose phone is the Samsung S7 at 9:35? It's one of my all time favorite Samsungs :)
pathfinder wins because you pay for the car. literally all Kia dealers are asking 2k-5k market adj price for the telludride. Same thing happens to the Hyundai palisade.
Great comparison. Shopping for 3 row suv to replace my 2014 Acura MDX. Looked at the Acura and I can't get over the clumsy infotainment system and shifter, although it does drive nice and provides more of a luxury feel. Also, looked at the Grand Cherokee L which has great styling and good towing ability. Seems like the Pathfinder fits in between the Telluride and Grand Cherokee L with respect to towing and being a little more rugged. The only thing I don't like with the Grand Cherokee L is the price but it kind of provides a little bit more capability and the interior feels a little more high end. Will you be reviewing the Grand Cherokee L soon, as it would be good to see how it stacks up against these?
Exactly in the same boat, test drove Telluride (overall liked it) and waiting to test GCL Overland trim. Never owned a Jeep product so a bit hesitant with regard to reliability. For the money Jeep could have upped the warranty. I'm drawn to the more capable, rugged look of the Jeep especially in higher trims with the air ride suspension but I also like the look of the Telluride. I think the Telluride's V6 might pull it's weight around better than the (heavier)Jeep's V6. The Jeep's powerful 5.7L V8 would be enticing but you kina get killed on fuel economy (17mpg combined..yikes!). A V6 Turbo would have been about right for the longer and heavier Jeep. The Grand Cherokee L's covers a lot of price points with six trims but you still have to add pricey packages to get all the goodies. You're 10-15 grand over a Telluride SX-P to get a loaded Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland or Summit. The Jeep is about 8 inches longer but has less passenger volume. The longer hood maybe to accommodate the Hemi V8. A comparison between them would answer a lot of questions like driving dynamics, seat comfort, cargo and passenger space ,power on the highway, maneuverability, infotainment responsiveness, features and layout, value for money etc. etc. Hopefully Zach and Andrea get a chance to review Jeep's new 3 row SUV ;-)
Not sure what’s happening in Canada, but here in Oregon dealer markup is adding 6 or 7 grand to the MSRP of the Kia. Meanwhile, some Nissan dealers I sold it it ( are offering a couple of thousand discount. That results in $50k versus $42k for similarly trimmed vehicles. Im going with the Pathfinder. Oh, and I’ve had 2 Pathfinders and an Xterra which were all totally reliable. One had 330k when we traded it.
I went to test drive a 1 year old Telluride and the Interiors looked so cheap after 1 year, i didn’t like even sitting in the Telluride. Hope your comparison also talks about the Interior quality.
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The Pathfinder seems more comparable to the Highlander , Pilot, and Sorento. Telluride is much more of a luxury suv than any of those.
I own one mine is very good on acceleration. Enough with the CVT I owned them both. CVT not as good yes but I saw no major issues with it. love the new trans though. Pathfinder looks better.
Would like to see a review of the Telluride vs Infiniti QX 60 when you can. I would assume the Infiniti drives smoother than the Telluride. For me, I like the looks of the QX 60 better than both the Telluride and Pathfinder. Between the Telluride and the QX 60, I think cost will be a big issue.
@@aono335 I strongly disagree! The Infiniti QX60 has more technology/features (many which aren't available for the Kia Telluride), along with a more upscale interior with better material quality throughout. Furthermore, vehicle "demand" based on popularity doesn't always equate to overall sales which is why the Telluride is currently 12th place in the midsized SUV class despite it's newfound hype. *MIDSIZED SUV SEGMENT 2021-H1* *US midsized SUV sales 2021 - YTD (From Jan - Jul 2021)* 1. Toyota Highlander - 144.380 2. Jeep Wrangler - 118.666 3. Ford Explorer - 118.241 4. Jeep Grand Cherokee - 107.924 5. Chevrolet Traverse - 83.431 6. Honda Pilot - 76.560 7. Toyota 4Runner - 69.949 8. Hyundai Santa Fe - 63.110 9. Lexus RX - 56.644 10. Kia Sorento - 48.313 11. GMC Acadia - 46.222 *12. Kia Telluride* - *45.438*
Telluride and Palisade pricing is extremely misleading and reviewers dont say this. US dealers add a Markup of $5k to $8k or 8 months waiting period in lieu of and the Korean twins are not a good bargain anymore. The price is now in luxury 3 row SUV range and they have to be compared against 2022 Aviator, MDX and QX60. Those waiting 8+ months for a Telluride probably dont need it and those paying a premium are buying into the hype.
I don't have a horse in this race but, I can't help thinking about all the engine and gas tank explosions Kia and Hyundai are well known for. Huge recalls and press on these two issues everywhere. I think these have to factor into the equation when comparing vehicles. I think Nissan has a far better reputation when it comes to reliability than either of the two Korean brands. If I had to choose between the Pathfinder or Telluride, I would choose the Pathfinder. I prefer a vehicle that isn't going to kill me when I accelerate.
I recently drove both cars top trims. I enjoyed driving Nissan more than Telluride. I am not sure about the hype of Telluride... I don't like the driving. I know, the space overall is little more on Telluride but as an average height person.. i found Nissan has enough comfort room. Oh, Telluride has noisy cabin when you accelerate the gas. It was annoying for me vs Nissan is very quiet (may be it has thicker glass).
I can appreciate the Datsun HardBody tribute accents. Well done them. But the only way that I would consider the Pathfinder over the Telluride would be... if Nissan’s ‘Nismo’ design team sprinkles their magic over it. The clear winner for my money would be Kia. Thanks for another great comparison video guys.
The main driving reason for economy size small cars is the cost of fuel to operate. EVs will not have that issue and motor vehicles will become human sized again. Remember the land yachts of the 60s and 70s.
Yeah. I remember. And the king of them all.. a 1975 Lincoln Mk V… has less front and rear head and legroom and less cargo space than my 2018 Honda Civic hatchback. Also slower top speed and acceleration. And fewer creature comforts. Don’t believe me… go look up the brochures and see for your self. When you have an engine literally five times as large (7.5L vs 1.5L) mounted longitudinally with a huge transmission tunnel, drive shaft hump, live rear axle, and a fuel tank to feed that massive engine… there isn’t a lot of room for people. They also made those land yachts longer than they had to be, which is why they downsized so easily in the late 70s. There was a lot of empty space in the fins and beaks that were ahead of the fan and radiator and behind the trunk.
Pathfinder can tow 6000lbs and has 600lbs hitch weight. Telluride towing weight is 5000lbs. Who cares about screen size, how big do you need these screens to be, all you read is radio stations and maybe a map once in a while.
Seems like nobody can dethrone the Kia. Because at the end of the day, it gives you more for less. Like the man says, everything seems to be better. As for towing? Who cares if the capacity is 1500lbs more? How often are you really towing? If you have a giant boat, then go with a Yukon or Durango. But give Nissan props for trying. I have their 14 Pathfinder. Remember this: At one time, the Pathfinder was rugged and was meant for off-road. It rode like a truck and looked like one too. But most weren't using their SUVs for off road, so in 2013, they changed it to unibody and they sold a ton. Moms liked it. Because it's still a "Pathfinder" even though in reality it was more of a "Mallfinder". Now they switched it back. So at what point, will they go back to a car like ride? In 15 years?
The HP and Torque are just part of the equation when it comes to towing. The correcting gearing is a major one, also how the frame is built and weight is distributed throughout the vehicle
its all going to come down to ride on the Pathfinder. The KIA has WAAAAYYYY too much road noise. Its a lot louder on the highway than the Pilot we have. The Pilot is pure hatred around town. The trans is horrible, the ride is horrible, the infotainment is the worst. My 2008 4runner has a better Nav and I still dont know how it works. Your trip will be over by the time the Pilot goes from AM to FM.
Telluride is just better packaging design to get more space from the same size. Pathfinder is the victim of platform sharing/reusing old platform cost savings
Time will tell if Kia motor will hold up. That's the only issue I have with the Kia and Hyandai 3rd row SUV. Future reliability!!! For now Honda, Mazda, and Toyota all day!
Talk to any mechanic, they’ll tell you that Hyundai/Kia V6 are very reliable. I own a Kia with a V6 with no problems over 70,000 miles. Just keep up then maintenance. It’s the 4 cylinders that have issues.
I am a mechanic and I can tell you that Kia and Hyundai are more reliable than most Japanese and European brands (Of course, Toyota is still great) But Nissan, Mazda, Subaru etc are not as reliable as they used to be. Times change... people just have a hard time accepting it.
all Japanes products are out smarted out foxed by Korean products, now days you can hardly buy japanese electronics at shops, the cars are about to desappear, it will be game over for Japanese cars if chinese cars show up at western world.
I am surprised by the reliability numbers for the Pathfinder. I don't know if it got better over the years but we purchased the Pathfinder when it was redesigned in 2013 and started to have problems in the 4th year with the air intake, A/C problems (twice), driver window that won't come up, driver inside door handle breaking (couldn't open the door from inside) then transmission issues. My Nissan dealer is trying to pull me into another Pathfinder... Good luck with that. We are looking for either the Palisade or the Telluride. I have mixed feelings about the Atlas. The Traverse was another 3 row contender but it feels cheap and overpriced (even pre-pandemic number). The 3rd row in other mainstream manufacturers is a joke (Ford, Mazda, Honda, Toyota, Subaru).
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Exterior goes to the Pathfinder for me.
I just bought the new 2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum and I absolutely love it, no regrets. I love all the features and value. Overall, I prefer the Nissan Pathfinder over the Kia Telluride.
The driver is the most important person in the vehicle. Nissan understands the driver need to have the most room and be the most comfortable. The lives of the other passengers are in the drivers hands.
Sit in and drive both, that will be more decisive IMO.
I bought the 2022 pathfinder after taking back my deposit with kia. It's just my wife and I we love the better gas mileage a recent 3 hour trip with ac and music on blast got 29.4MPG. Kia was not worth the price increase for all the 2nd and 3rd row when we will only use it once or twice a a year.
Pathfinder is a winner!! The interior and exterior feel very premium. Kudos to Nissan!!
Pathfinder for sure. Interior and exterior both looks amazing.
I drove both bought the pathfinder. Real world price was better, real world 3rd row seating was better, more modern tech, and funner to drive than Telluride. Interior material looked a little more upscale in the Kia but the pathfinder looked more modern. Both are very very nice medium size SUVs.
Nice comparison, but I think the pathfinder is more solid and stable on turns and has more offroad capabilities
Pathfinder wins it just because it tows way better! It is more rugged!
Just bought the new Nissan pathfinder Platinum. I test drove the Kia telluride... but here in Florida Kia is charging $18,000 over MSRP because they say that they have the top SUV. Making it approximately $68,000 - $72,000 for the top trim, I say Kia can keep their Telluride. This is my 3rd pathfinder and I LOVE IT!
Wow! That's ridiculous. Glad you are enjoying your new Pathfinder!
When I was looking at the Toyota sienna and the Kia carnival in Wilmington North Carolina, the Carnaval Dealer wanted six and $10,000 above MSRP for the Kia carnival van. I believe they were asking almost 15,000 over MSRP for the Telluride. I think it’s horrible and completely unjustified.
See my comments above. Totally agree on all points
Good for you! I experienced the same thing. Few years back they used to beg people to buy their cars. Now that they make a halfway decent one, they think they’re BMW! The pathfinder is great - enjoy!
$ 18,000.oo over sticker ???
bullshit.... no one pays that...
How would they finance thatt anyway ???
To paraphrase a comment attributed to Mark Twain about himself, "The reports of (Nissan's) death have been greatly exaggerated." And one of the advantages of being late to a party is that you get a chance to see what everyone else is wearing. It's clear that Nissan benchmarked the Telluride in the design and features of the new Pathfinder. It may not be the earthshaking vehicle that the Telluride has been but it's clearly a credible contestant and superior to a number of other rivals.
Andrea, the reason the Pathfinder's hood is so long is that it's an approach used by auto designers, especially those who design sports cars, for nearly a century. to suggest potency and performance even though it sacrifices interior space. If you wonder why, check with Sigmund Freud.
I want a Pathfinder so bad get the Platinum. Love my 2015 Rogue but interior kind of small still a great car. So happy the Pathfinder doesn't have that CVT anymore just worry about a early model car hope doesn't suffer any reliability issues love this car so much. Thinking hard taking a test drive in this baby what a beauty new tech, beautiful styling and great interior. I really love Nissan.
Just bought 2022 pathfinder sv..love it !
I definitely like the looks of the Pathfinder better. Both I think are great choices
getting rid of the cvt was the biggest change nissan needed to do. hopefully they will continue the trend. Personally i'd probably go palisade. Just love the interior, especially how they do the cup holder area.
Telluride is just beautiful. I don't think anyone will dethrone it anytime soon. People who have never driven a Telluride should really give it a shot rather than being a badge warrior and just goes for Pathfinder.
Butttt it’s still a Kia .
A f****NG Kia .. LOL
@@fivesevenfloors9939 but it's a Nissan, 😆, let's trust a company that's almost going bankrupt, cutting costs to deliver quality product, unless you own shares of Nissan (my condolences 😆)
@@fivesevenfloors9939 it’s funny because I’ve seen this reply a few times. “It’s still a Kia.” that is all they have to say because fact is, the telluride is killing it. Kia is destroying even luxury vehicles these days, thanks to the BMW designers that work for Kia now.
@@totojojo5559
At least Nissan has a rich history of creating & producing legendary vehicles (Z, Maxima, GTR, Pathfinder, etc) which are still heralded today while Kia has a illustrious history of creating & producing..........JUNK! *LOL*
@@TheBjjones just like Lehman Brothers in finance had great 150 year legacy, where are they now? LOL. BTW I hope you don't drive by looking only in the rear view mirror, you might crash, if you understand what I mean 😉.
I'm not a fan of either brand but if I were to choose between them I'dl prefer the Pathfinder
Pathfinder for me.
Same here
I feel more for Pathfinder of course.) Reasonable size and great useability inside, nice engine. Interior is brand new while Telluride is like old KIA ( Both are great but I prefer Nissan.
Fantastic comparison between these two new crossovers. 👏
Both of these vehicles offer so many features and accouterments that it makes it a tough choice. The Telluride is a better designed vehicle in my opinion. I prefer the exterior styling more on the Telluride compared to the new Pathfinder. The Pathfinder has a nicer instrumentation cluster and I also like the dashboard layout more than the Telluride. Both of these utilities offer a lot. It's nice to see Nissan coming out with solid competition, but I think the Telluride will find more customers and be the better seller.
Thank you, really glad you liked the comparison.
Pathfinder coz of higher headroom in the third row. I am 5.10 and my head touches the top in the 3rd row of Telluride; so uncomfortable. I don’t know why headroom is always ignored in almost all auto reviews.
Thanks for the great work!
@Mr G Well if third row is for kids only, then leg room does not matter as much as head room. Kids can fit even in a compact 3 row. Why spend extra on a mid-sized 3 row!!
@Mr G My point is for some 5.10-5.11 pathfinder provides adequate leg room, although less that Telluride. However, much better headroom compared than Telluride. So, for me it’s more practical choice than Telluride; adequate leg room and adequate headroom, compared to great leg room and cramped headroom in Telluride. I would prefer a bit less legroom over my head touching the top.
@Mr G The point I was trying to make was that the headroom is as important consideration as legroom and should be considered while comparing. For some buyers it might be important!
@@samayganhar go for Palisade much better Headroom
i'd choose pathfinder just because of higher towing capacity
Towing capacity is meaningless.
That CVT won’t handle a tent trailer.
@@Bartonovich52 its a 9 speed torque converter
@@Bartonovich52 not a cvt
@@Bartonovich52 you must have woken up after a long hibernation. Or were you in Mars?
I'll take the Pathfinder over any of the current comparisons and maybe a tossup against the Toyota Highlander.
We will be doing a comparison next week between the Pathfinder and Highlander. Stay tuned!
Kia Telluride the best 👌
Great comparison. I'd go for the Kia I think, but the Nissan looks good as well. I like the styling of the Telluride more and the longer warranty is a plus.
Thank you!
Nissan for me
Awesome video Andrea and Zack! This was the perfect comparison between the two vehicles. However, I think I still prefer the Pathfinder as it has a very refreshed look and love Nissan's new transmission - thank god they got out of the CVT transmission
Thanks for watching!
I went Palisade. Telluride prices were crazy. And Palisade had more features.
Zach is definitely leaning Telluride! It's better looking, more refined, more spacious, more powerful, better tuned transmission, longer warranty, a better overall package and likely better resale value. The Pathfinder has the nice digital cockpit in higher trims, more towing capability and better overall color choices inside and out especially with the two tone black roof option with many colors. Telluride still leads the way but given it's huge popularity in the U.S. in particular you may not got a good deal especially now with the "chip shortage crisis" and the back log of customers orders particularly for the EX and SX trims. Love to see the Telluride compared to the new Jeep Grand Cherokee L at similar pricing. Maybe The Telluride SX-P vs the GCL Limited/Overland! Great comparison guys!
I definitely agree with the lag in acceleration/pickup in the 2022 Pathfinder. It’s a little bothersome when trying to merge on expressway or when trying to pass cars.
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Wow, thanks for watching!
Thank you so much, we appreciate the kind words.
Pathfinder all the way.
Pathfinder please !
I like the direction Nissan is going. While everyone applaud Pathfinder going from CVT into ZF 9 AT. This ZF 9AT has iffy quality problems, from what we have witnessed in both FCA and Honda/Acura. The jerking problem has been well documented of this transmission. I hope ZF has addressed the quality issue with Pathfinder's execution. Its also the reason why Honda Passport is a slow seller, other than the HondaLink infotainment class action in the States.
Between these 2, I would take Telluride is a heartbeat. But will definitely take Pathfinder into consideration, which is predecessor will never be.
The side view of the Nissan Pathfinder shows the Hyundai Palisade, and the rear view shows the Kia Carnival.
Great video Andrea! To me, Pathfinder is a winner. Thanks for sharing!👍🏻👊🏻
Thanks for watching!
@@andreaspencer9813 You are an very welcome Andrea! 👍🏻☕️
Cant lie, that all black scheme looks on point, but I'll stick with the heritage here. While I can appreciate the Kia, meh .not interested.
Front exterior, tellu won
Back exterior, path won
Too many badge warriors here saying they will get the Pathfinder. Just test drive a Telluride and trust me you will change your mind. Times change... people just have a hard time accepting it. Kia and Hyundai are making one of the best cars right now. Better get them when they are still cheap because they will get more expensive as time goes.
i tested the Telluride and there was nothing wow factor. 2nd and third row seats look smaller in person for some reason. I wasn’t too crazy about the comfort.
@@LovethisNation i agree Telluride ride hard and bumpy
Around here, the Pathfinders are selling fast. They are not lasting a week at the dealers. I was wondering about the transmission. Honda had a field day dealing with ZF and they finally went in to re-program it. I'll wait until it's been updated.
Nissan need to go back to the drawing board and make vehicles that are more reliable. There are too many mechanical problems and that explains losing sales especially with infinity brand. Hope this pathfinder is reliable than other Nissan cars.
KIA all the way
I like to take my canoe and my bikes out sometimes. The Pathfinder has a "real" roofrack where I can re-use my sturdy crossbars to attach one or two boats to. Also most models come standard with the towing hitch which is handy for a proper bikerack. You didn't mention any of that in your review, but i think for those people who really need to use SUVs (rather than like being seen in them) these are quite important considerations.
Canoe & bikes can go on top of most sedans. Outdoor folks use sedan and Subie like to use bike or even trucks not SUV like Pathfiner. Most people would need a ladder to load things top of medium/larger SUV. SMH
@@Jgjginkg244 He said he uses the towing hitch...i.e. tow hitch mount bike rack, mine carries 5 bikes at a time. No need for a ladder, no need to put on a roof (I hate seeing it, as the bike flails on the roof)....
Your basically saying to carry a bike a sedan or a truck is best when a SUV can do it just fine...oh boy...
this is the best review I ever see，great video. Got my pathfinder 2023 SL premium in Canada today，kia telluride is way long to wait and higer price with higher interest rate. Compare to the 22 version, the 23pathfinder got smoother start, but auto off is such a nightmare, have to turn off everytime is kind of boring. 2things i think pathfinder win telluride, first is the new IIHS side impact test resaults, you can see the second row side airbag help to protect 2nd row passanger. second thing is pathfinder have some robber protecter under the door frame, which place i got a lot of snow deposit on my CRV. 2 good things i think telluride have and pathfinder should improve are the side view camera when you flash turn signal, and the larger cargo lenth after 3rd row up.just a inch longer comon! i like the looks of pathfinder, maybe because im getting old.
Brilliant comparison, as usual. The most important question, though, is whose phone is the Samsung S7 at 9:35? It's one of my all time favorite Samsungs :)
pathfinder wins because you pay for the car. literally all Kia dealers are asking 2k-5k market adj price for the telludride. Same thing happens to the Hyundai palisade.
Great comparison. Shopping for 3 row suv to replace my 2014 Acura MDX. Looked at the Acura and I can't get over the clumsy infotainment system and shifter, although it does drive nice and provides more of a luxury feel. Also, looked at the Grand Cherokee L which has great styling and good towing ability. Seems like the Pathfinder fits in between the Telluride and Grand Cherokee L with respect to towing and being a little more rugged. The only thing I don't like with the Grand Cherokee L is the price but it kind of provides a little bit more capability and the interior feels a little more high end. Will you be reviewing the Grand Cherokee L soon, as it would be good to see how it stacks up against these?
Exactly in the same boat, test drove Telluride (overall liked it) and waiting to test GCL Overland trim. Never owned a Jeep product so a bit hesitant with regard to reliability. For the money Jeep could have upped the warranty. I'm drawn to the more capable, rugged look of the Jeep especially in higher trims with the air ride suspension but I also like the look of the Telluride. I think the Telluride's V6 might pull it's weight around better than the (heavier)Jeep's V6. The Jeep's powerful 5.7L V8 would be enticing but you kina get killed on fuel economy (17mpg combined..yikes!). A V6 Turbo would have been about right for the longer and heavier Jeep. The Grand Cherokee L's covers a lot of price points with six trims but you still have to add pricey packages to get all the goodies. You're 10-15 grand over a Telluride SX-P to get a loaded Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland or Summit. The Jeep is about 8 inches longer but has less passenger volume. The longer hood maybe to accommodate the Hemi V8. A comparison between them would answer a lot of questions like driving dynamics, seat comfort, cargo and passenger space ,power on the highway, maneuverability, infotainment responsiveness, features and layout, value for money etc. etc. Hopefully Zach and Andrea get a chance to review Jeep's new 3 row SUV ;-)
Just keep your Acura!
Please mention that the Telluride base model in Canada is very well equipped and comparable to the competition same price product.
So the Pathfinders towing advantage goes out the window because the guy is aTelluride fanboy?
not to mention ''underpowered'' Pathfinder being quicker in acceleration not by much but still...
Pathfinder
Not sure what’s happening in Canada, but here in Oregon dealer markup is adding 6 or 7 grand to the MSRP of the Kia. Meanwhile, some Nissan dealers I sold it it ( are offering a couple of thousand discount. That results in $50k versus $42k for similarly trimmed vehicles. Im going with the Pathfinder. Oh, and I’ve had 2 Pathfinders and an Xterra which were all totally reliable. One had 330k when we traded it.
I went to test drive a 1 year old Telluride and the Interiors looked so cheap after 1 year, i didn’t like even sitting in the Telluride. Hope your comparison also talks about the Interior quality.
The Pathfinder seems more comparable to the Highlander , Pilot, and Sorento. Telluride is much more of a luxury suv than any of those.
I own one mine is very good on acceleration. Enough with the CVT I owned them both. CVT not as good yes but I saw no major issues with it. love the new trans though. Pathfinder looks better.
Would like to see a review of the Telluride vs Infiniti QX 60 when you can. I would assume the Infiniti drives smoother than the Telluride. For me, I like the looks of the QX 60 better than both the Telluride and Pathfinder. Between the Telluride and the QX 60, I think cost will be a big issue.
telluride for me. Looks classy!
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When it comes to overall technology, luxury & brand status, the Telluride isn't even in the same ballpark as the QX60.
@@TheBjjones id say only in terms of brand status. But even then Telluride is more in demand then any QX60
@@aono335
I strongly disagree! The Infiniti QX60 has more technology/features (many which aren't available for the Kia Telluride), along with a more upscale interior with better material quality throughout.
Furthermore, vehicle "demand" based on popularity doesn't always equate to overall sales which is why the Telluride is currently 12th place in the midsized SUV class despite it's newfound hype.
*MIDSIZED SUV SEGMENT 2021-H1*
*US midsized SUV sales 2021 - YTD (From Jan - Jul 2021)*
1. Toyota Highlander - 144.380
2. Jeep Wrangler - 118.666
3. Ford Explorer - 118.241
4. Jeep Grand Cherokee - 107.924
5. Chevrolet Traverse - 83.431
6. Honda Pilot - 76.560
7. Toyota 4Runner - 69.949
8. Hyundai Santa Fe - 63.110
9. Lexus RX - 56.644
10. Kia Sorento - 48.313
11. GMC Acadia - 46.222
*12. Kia Telluride* - *45.438*
Telluride is the best in midsize suv.
The Pathfinder wins because it can tow 6,000 pounds.
Looks very good performance and with a lot of economy of the Nissan Pathfinder.
Of all of these 3 rows - prefer the durango for its towing ability = but it is a $5k upgrade for their "tow & go" package
CVT for such a large vehicle??? what Nissan was thinking.... finally they are thinking with conventional automatic gear box. definitively a smart move
P A T H F I N D E R !
Where is the spare tire kept on the2023 Pathfinder
The new Pathfinder offers 4wd and not mentioned AWD. There is a difference between the two drive trains.
Telluride and Palisade pricing is extremely misleading and reviewers dont say this. US dealers add a Markup of $5k to $8k or 8 months waiting period in lieu of and the Korean twins are not a good bargain anymore. The price is now in luxury 3 row SUV range and they have to be compared against 2022 Aviator, MDX and QX60. Those waiting 8+ months for a Telluride probably dont need it and those paying a premium are buying into the hype.
I like the way the Pathfinder looks and drives better than the Telluride.
I don't have a horse in this race but, I can't help thinking about all the engine and gas tank explosions Kia and Hyundai are well known for. Huge recalls and press on these two issues everywhere. I think these have to factor into the equation when comparing vehicles. I think Nissan has a far better reputation when it comes to reliability than either of the two Korean brands. If I had to choose between the Pathfinder or Telluride, I would choose the Pathfinder. I prefer a vehicle that isn't going to kill me when I accelerate.
Look up reliability of past Pathfinder CVT issues. Also look up reliability with Telluride, it is stellar.
Pathfinder best kia
Why do Pathfinder owners come here and spam comments? Why watch a review after you've already bought the vehicle LMAO
Naveenkaratekid I don't think your post aged well....LOL. 1 year later the Future is here and so is the Grand Highlander....dun dun duuuuun!!!!
Telluride has no tow hooks and Car & Driver got it stuck in loose dirt!
If you need a third row GET A MINIVAN!
Big improvement by Nissan especially no CVT and interior design. But, I can't imagine how Nissan survive in this competitive market.
they said that they made a large legroom for the driver side because the main man is the driver they should be more comfortable while driving.
I recently drove both cars top trims. I enjoyed driving Nissan more than Telluride. I am not sure about the hype of Telluride... I don't like the driving. I know, the space overall is little more on Telluride but as an average height person.. i found Nissan has enough comfort room. Oh, Telluride has noisy cabin when you accelerate the gas. It was annoying for me vs Nissan is very quiet (may be it has thicker glass).
Telluride all day!
I would definitely not describe either of these as boxy.
It's kind of ironic that the vehicle you guys are sitting in while doing this review doesn't look like it's a Telluride or a Pathfinder.
Porsche Cayenne, maybe?
@Tanah Merah
Yeah, that's kind of lazy!
I can appreciate the Datsun HardBody tribute accents. Well done them. But the only way that I would consider the Pathfinder over the Telluride would be... if Nissan’s ‘Nismo’ design team sprinkles their magic over it. The clear winner for my money would be Kia. Thanks for another great comparison video guys.
The main driving reason for economy size small cars is the cost of fuel to operate. EVs will not have that issue and motor vehicles will become human sized again. Remember the land yachts of the 60s and 70s.
Yeah. I remember.
And the king of them all.. a 1975 Lincoln Mk V… has less front and rear head and legroom and less cargo space than my 2018 Honda Civic hatchback. Also slower top speed and acceleration. And fewer creature comforts.
Don’t believe me… go look up the brochures and see for your self.
When you have an engine literally five times as large (7.5L vs 1.5L) mounted longitudinally with a huge transmission tunnel, drive shaft hump, live rear axle, and a fuel tank to feed that massive engine… there isn’t a lot of room for people. They also made those land yachts longer than they had to be, which is why they downsized so easily in the late 70s. There was a lot of empty space in the fins and beaks that were ahead of the fan and radiator and behind the trunk.
Pathfinder can tow 6000lbs and has 600lbs hitch weight. Telluride towing weight is 5000lbs. Who cares about screen size, how big do you need these screens to be, all you read is radio stations and maybe a map once in a while.
Telluride for overall looks and quality interior. I might choose the Pathfinder if it ever comes back out with body on frame down the road.
The kia telluride is the winner.
Seems like nobody can dethrone the Kia. Because at the end of the day, it gives you more for less. Like the man says, everything seems to be better. As for towing? Who cares if the capacity is 1500lbs more? How often are you really towing? If you have a giant boat, then go with a Yukon or Durango. But give Nissan props for trying. I have their 14 Pathfinder. Remember this: At one time, the Pathfinder was rugged and was meant for off-road. It rode like a truck and looked like one too. But most weren't using their SUVs for off road, so in 2013, they changed it to unibody and they sold a ton. Moms liked it. Because it's still a "Pathfinder" even though in reality it was more of a "Mallfinder". Now they switched it back. So at what point, will they go back to a car like ride? In 15 years?
The new Pathfinder is still a unibody, not a truck base. Matter of fact its ride on the same but update platform.
I don't understand how the pathfinder have 1k lb tow more than the telluride since the telluride have more hp and torque
The HP and Torque are just part of the equation when it comes to towing. The correcting gearing is a major one, also how the frame is built and weight is distributed throughout the vehicle
Because Japanese towing powah >>>>>>>>>> Korean towing powah! Just like Japanese hp >>>>>>>>>>> Korean hp!
Telluride wins easy. Pathfinder isn't terrible tho.
Nissan Pathfinder is faster than Kia Telluride SX
I love nissan and it's history nissan skyline, Datsun, Z etc. KIA/Hyundai don't have a legacy, pathfinder anytime!!
its all going to come down to ride on the Pathfinder. The KIA has WAAAAYYYY too much road noise. Its a lot louder on the highway than the Pilot we have. The Pilot is pure hatred around town. The trans is horrible, the ride is horrible, the infotainment is the worst. My 2008 4runner has a better Nav and I still dont know how it works. Your trip will be over by the time the Pilot goes from AM to FM.
Telluride is just better packaging design to get more space from the same size.
Pathfinder is the victim of platform sharing/reusing old platform cost savings
8:06 or as I like to say, it YEETs the seat so more folks can get in.
Telluride back looks ugly. No digital instrument cluster. Those are a deal-breaker.
Time will tell if Kia motor will hold up. That's the only issue I have with the Kia and Hyandai 3rd row SUV. Future reliability!!! For now Honda, Mazda, and Toyota all day!
Talk to any mechanic, they’ll tell you that Hyundai/Kia V6 are very reliable. I own a Kia with a V6 with no problems over 70,000 miles. Just keep up then maintenance. It’s the 4 cylinders that have issues.
@@ivandoneshefsky4762 time will tell.
I am a mechanic and I can tell you that Kia and Hyundai are more reliable than most Japanese and European brands (Of course, Toyota is still great) But Nissan, Mazda, Subaru etc are not as reliable as they used to be. Times change... people just have a hard time accepting it.
all Japanes products are out smarted out foxed by Korean products, now days you can hardly buy japanese electronics at shops, the cars are about to desappear, it will be game over for Japanese cars if chinese cars show up at western world.
That new Kia logo sucks. I wouldn't buy the 2022 because of that.
The Nissan has a very reliable engine that will give you 250k miles the other not.
Pathfinder has more front row headroom.
I am surprised by the reliability numbers for the Pathfinder. I don't know if it got better over the years but we purchased the Pathfinder when it was redesigned in 2013 and started to have problems in the 4th year with the air intake, A/C problems (twice), driver window that won't come up, driver inside door handle breaking (couldn't open the door from inside) then transmission issues. My Nissan dealer is trying to pull me into another Pathfinder... Good luck with that. We are looking for either the Palisade or the Telluride. I have mixed feelings about the Atlas. The Traverse was another 3 row contender but it feels cheap and overpriced (even pre-pandemic number). The 3rd row in other mainstream manufacturers is a joke (Ford, Mazda, Honda, Toyota, Subaru).
T E L L U R I D E
Nissan had plenty of time to match or even exceed Kias Telluride “Range Rover” copy. Unfortunately Nissan has fallen wayyy too short.
Nissan is little better
Kia should pay them for such a bias review 😂