Can Men and Women Be Friends?
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Lol No. I'm not spending time with any female I'm not trying to get with.
No, having a girl as a friend is like having a chicken as a pet. Sooner than later you are want to eat it.
Yes, but it's rare, usually neither person finds the other physically attractive which helps in this case, but it only works long term if both sides manage to find partners they're happy with, otherwise out of desperation one or both sides might make advances which spoils the relationship.
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Men and women can be friends........if the dude friendzones her
But why? Just have male friends, they're better.
Lol😂
@Javier Llaneza why? My main hobby is social dancing. Practice with a guy? Better with a woman but still under my terms. So there are specific cases
Or if she’s fugly 😂
Most younger guys need too see this video. We've all been there fella's in the "friend zone". I'd rather get denied by her, then be in the "friend zone". YOU need to make the move!
It will save you a lot of time...
I agree. Make the move, if she's into you then great if she's not then pack up shop and move on. I think it's a waste of time to just settle with being friends with the hopes of one day working up to a place where you and her will be banging.
Facts my Brothas
David Spivack that's real talk and that's how I feel too.
So true man..
Depends on how you hit it off. If you relate on a lot of levels but there’s no chemistry, no make out, blah blah...then maybe there’s a good reason to stay in touch. She invites you to a party. She has female friends. You meet people. Maybe a chicklet friend you’re attracted to starts talking...you really wanna ignore a chance from some bullshit “waste of time” POV?
The short answer, no.
The short answer: yes.
A man and a woman can be "friendly" as in colleagues or work relationships. With so many women in the workforce and even in positions of authority you have to cultivate that cordial but distant sense. But real friends, like hang out together and share personal interests? No can do. Getting that close on a personal or sharing level will always unleash the sexual urge. Certainly for the male but also for the female, too. You have to respect that the urge is real and natural.
You're going to have to explain to me why sex somehow means wanting a relationship and love. Because I never found that to be true. Some of my closest friends are women.
@@AmazingStoryDewd a man and a woman can't just be "friends" if they're attracted to each other, cuz sex & feelings always inevitably gets in the way..stop simping around trynna nice guy your way into her pants cuz you ain't getting any that way, that's why nice guys always finish last & discarded as emotional tampons at the end of the day..
Actually, I am a woman and my best friend is a man! He has a crush on a girl he goes to school with and I don’t have a crush on anybody in particular, but we talk to each other all the time and play video games together all the time :)
@@lysolmyfish Would he have sex with you if you said "Come on over - I'm waiting .."?
@@AmazingStoryDewd He did not mention "relationships". Bob sais that the sexual urge will be there, meaning, one (or both) will eventually (or even initially) want something MORE than just friendship. At that point, it's not just a friendship - one party wants more.
"Between men and women there is no friendship possible. There is passion, enmity, worship, love, but no friendship." - Oscar Wilde
Exactly 💯
Yea... you should read a little bit about the type of man Mr. Wilde was...
Maybe in marriage.
The only times I've been "friends" with a woman, was when she wanted something from me but didn't want to provide sex in return. Same story over and over again. My friendships with women don't last very long. Unless, of course, well, um, uh, you know.
Unless you be snorting coke off her ass right?
Same. I've been strung along a few times. I know now that I wanted MORE than just friendship. They ddi not. "Friendship" ended.
I've had a male best friend for 35 years we have known eachother all our lives, my mom would babysit me and him and his mom would babysit him and I before she passed away. We grew up down the street from eachother.
We don't talk everyday there have been times that we haven't spoken in months but when we do it's like time hasn't passed.
He has never attempted to try to be with me or hit on me in a sexual manner when I've been single. We have established our platonic friendship well over 30 years ago and both know that's exactly what it is.
He has been with the same girl for over 15 years and now has a child with her which over the years I have become really good friends with her. She has no problem with us being friends she strictly knows its a platonic friendship.
So that 1% where men and women can be friends in a platonic way is possible.
I can honestly say I have had females friends. I think the friendship worked because I didn’t want sex from them whatsoever.
In that case, yep. Can be friends
Yes, of course If you (the man) are not attracted to the woman (either physically or emotionally) THEN you can be "just friends". But ... what interests do you have in common?
Red flag, if a girl has a bunch of guy friends and no girlfriends or just one girlfriend who like her, RUN and don’t look back
@@skmotorcycles8123 She's training BJ skills.
I’ve had a number of female friends over the years and everyone of them secretly wanted to be my girlfriend so they were basically orbiters. I don’t believe in equal friendship is possible if one or the other of them are attracted to each other.
You freaking stud.
Agree with you 100% . I was in the friend once and never again.
Seams like men always want a lot more than just friendship. That's why I dont have any guy friends... I have my husband, my dad and 3 brothers to talk to if I want to talk or hang out with a Male.
STILL, YOU ARE HERE WATCHING THIS VIDEO!!!
@@prathameshpawar1912 3 years ago I was
Real Biological Brothers or Fake Namesake Brothers 😂
This message is absolutely 100% correct. I've always said the exact same thing. This will never change
let us be just friends means no attraction. that is it.
Rather be alone than to be in the friendzone. It's pretty much the same thing. Plus if I want friends, I'll go meet dudes.
I’ve learned this lesson the hard way, and that’s what make me take the red pill...
I’m pretty new to the red pill community, but after reading “The Rational Male” I can see how my “friend” used to take advantage of my blue pill condition.
By expecting all the good shit of having a boyfriend by saying when I asked her out.
“I like you as a friend i i don’t want you to stop talking to me, we can still be friends and see what happens in the future, maybe we ended up together”
Now I don’t talk to her and she calls me wanting to “try it out”
No thanks!!
My belief is that a man and woman can be friends only if they both have a mustache. Otherwise no frickin way
So you can be friends with a feminazi then?
you did not understand the meaning of my comment, read it again
Sounds pretty gay.
Why? Sex and lust alone doesn't really have any significance.
You probably dont have friends
“They’re really not functional, they let a lot of guys down.” - That pretty much sums it up right there. Nothing but cold hard truth.
Rich layin down the cold truth like a boss 👊😎
Well said Bro i start to fall for him #NoHomo
John Gillan as always. Thank you Rich, clarifies a lot. Again.
If the boss is an incel, yeah.
Rich is correct “usually” men are using the friend approach to “get in their pants” but it’s not true for all. I have a variety of women in my life who are strictly Plutonic, I’m close with their boyfriends/husbands and we have zero attraction toward one another.
Your an exception.
Are they attractive? Average? Ugly?
Apart from your guy friends (who ARE actually banging them) you don't: ride motorcycles, flying out for a $100 hamburger, hang out, grab a beer with those "females." They are only your Friends +1!
anonymous anonymous YES keyword “AN” meaning there’s a lot of exceptions to this rule.
Father Leo the whole spectrum of beauty but it doesn’t matter, when you believe in yourself, are confident and are a good dude living an abundance lifestyle aka “get a lot of pussy” you don’t need to look at every female with sexual intentions. Just my opinion. Bout to go on a walk with a super hot neighbor chick friend of mine, we have zero interest in each other!
it's easy to be friends as long as you aren't trying to sleep with each other. i would say "attracted to each other" but let's be real, people settle all the time.
Facts or inviting each other in the house alone
Very very very well said Rich!!! I tell the same things to my friends but sometimes there isnt adequate brain capacity to understand, and eventually, they keep making the same mistakes.
Take good care buddy and have fun. Regards from Sparta, Greece!
I wish I had this video when I was in school/college. I was always told "be her friend" and all that stuff and I trusted the people that told me that 'advice' so I followed it but I can 100% agree with Rich, it doesn't work and most times doesn't end well either. This video pretty much explains all my friendships with girls, I ended up in the friend zone all the time and I was the guy they went to when shit went wrong. Long story short, I eventually changed the approach and they all disappeared, didn't wanna know me. It made college lonely because no-one liked me but it did eliminate some of the energy vampires.
After several experiences, I can say that I totally agree with what you say.
You put yourself in the friend zone by your own actions. Acting nice signals her that she out of your league. Men aim high too. Act like you are the prize. When she hits the wall and can't get what she was really aiming for only then will you be out of the friend zone. The friend zone is her backup. Act like an Alpha to give her a reason to give it to you. Never be needy of clingy. Give her lots of space and time. Hit her up in a month or two. She might have a change of heart by then. Get them to chase you. Remember you are the prize.
Exactly spot on. Most guys assume that taking the role of the prize makes you an asshole but fail to recognize the only other role is the "friendzone". It's better to lose a woman than be friendzoned.
Thanks man this is what I needed to know for a situation I'm In. I realise now I should chill be the prize and let her come to me. Thank fk man cos I was gonna hit on her an that would have messes things up. I'll keep teasing an spin multiple plates an in the one I like comes around then sound if not its OK at least I won't get rejected an mess up any sexual tension by being all over her
I don't have the same interests as a woman. So, I'd say no.
Thank you for the advice !
I work as a server in a busy restaurant, I thought the hostess was hot so I asked her out but things didn’t work out but we remained friends now I get seated with the largest parties and all the other servers hate me but I wipe my tears away with all the dollar bills
Big brother I never had. Thanks for sharing the truth.
If she's actively hooking u up with other girls then I think she's a good enough friend. I feel like you skip a lot of steps when a girl is introducing you to another girl, like you already have your foot in the door. In my experience that is what female friends really have brought to the table.
I concur with the aforementioned statement. Also, I will add if you are both professionals and share industry ideas and networking. That's a few shared avenues of mutual benefit.
Hmm true
In the past I've had females friends and not once ever have they hooked me up with a friend. I realise now its coa they havnt wanted to share me or had my interests at heart only theirs. They have kept me around like an orbiter they can turn too. I'm in the process of walking away from all my female friends an it feels weird after years of conditioning. I have found not having these friends has meant that I havnt engaged in any saviour behavior doing things for them which has given me time to work out I dont need to act that way any more.
You can have female friends ONLY if you TRULY in ur heart (and dick) you have zero sexual intentions.
I only have 1 female best friend, she doesnt use me for attention, validation, a shoulder to cry on. etc. We both have each other's backs.
We had an interest in each other long ago, but during different times. Do I want to have sex with her? No, because there are better options, I don't need anything sexual from her because I have an abundance mindset as Rich taught us.
@@screamtheguy6425 women typically always feels a sense of validation when dealing with a guy. Rich says that you are her girlfriend but really I think you’re a source of male validation. Not that it’s necessarily bad, but it is the truth.
Couldn't agree more with you on this one brother
Keep it up brother
I’ll admit that I went straight to the comments section on this one before watching the video. From my perspective, men and women can be friends but simply aren’t designed to be (just) friends.
We have an ultimate goal to pair up, have sex, children then raise said children. That’s where our common goal lies. In most other respects we are like chalk and cheese. There’s a reason why birds of a feather flock together and that’s because we are drawn to those like ourselves. We’re friends with our friends because they are similar to us in our views, beliefs, goals etc. Men and women aren’t similar at all. We talk differently, we treat each other differently and we act differently. I don’t have female friends, they are merely acquaintances. Any personal stuff I discuss is with my male friends.
If I do have some kind of friendship with a woman, it’s because I have zero attraction for her and can afford to be in her presence.
I don't have female friends because they see you as a friend if you are not dating material. Speaking that truth
It’s not possible at all. I tried this and it doesn’t work. I know how sad it may be, but if you’re her friend you’re giving her attention, time, and probably money indirectly through doing stuff with her. She gets all of you and you get nothing from her besides her unapologetic disinterest in you. Don’t get me wrong, you can have a good time with her but you won’t be getting what you really want from her in the end.
I broke a girl’s heart by being unapologetically Red Pilled. I just didn’t give a fuck. She ended up doing something really stupid to me in the end. I won’t say what due to privacy issues.
The deal is, if you don’t want to date me, I’m not going to freely give you my time, attention, and orbit you like your sad friends that do your bidding in return for practically nothing. Feminists would have you believe that just being their “friend” is enough and that you’re fucked up if you can’t just take that. You’re not a man if you can’t let her control you.
My bad if I sound frustrated but it’s in fact because I am. I have experienced with this shit and I see it go down all the time to these Blue Pill betas. Can’t save these kids.
I have shit to do and more options. I don’t waste time with women who can’t make up their minds or who are looking for guys to reciprocate their “friends” bullshit. It’s all black and white for me folks! Again, I don’t give a fuck.
Bravo its just torturing yourself.
it's hard. one generally catches feelings and it goes sour.
He's speaking the absolute truth.
Lol ! 'Body in the trunk' friendship test !
From my honest anecdotal experience, all the guys I’m close to being friends with are either gay or would be seen as beta to the red pill community of men.
I have male acquaintances and leave it at that level because 1. I’m in a relationship & 2. I’m not ignorant of the fact that if a male and female are slightly attractive there will always be that sexual tension.
For real though, if you were single and were given the opportunity to hang out with an 8 or up on attractiveness, there would definitely be sexual attraction there.
Camillio
Honest response
Qoooh Thanks a lot Rich finally someone agrees with my Opinion .
And i like the way you Support your perspective with the Facebook Friendship .
Just Perfect 👌
100% agree with everything you said in this video. I wish more women understood this.
In the overwhelming majority of cases the answer is a resounding “no”. However, like all things in life there are exceptions. The key is if the friendship adds a net value to your life. If the answer is yes, then it would be a good idea to continue it. Don’t lie to yourself though, it’s not doing you any favors.
Totally agree with your female perspective. I find a guy can sometimes put himself in the Friend zone by not “pulling the trigger” within a reasonable, albeit, respectful time frame. Don’t be scared guys, take a risk. What’s the worst that could happen? Great video. 👍🏻
Just get a sexual harassment case, bro.
Not only what you've said here but even the friendships I've had with women where I didn't find them attractive (For whatever reason) it's almost as though they have no idea what the word "Friendship" means, even just surface level friendships. Like one time I texted one to ask her about a movie and her response was basically to chastise me for calling her about that. Even going so far as to say "What makes you think it's ok to hit me up and bother me about this?" Leaving me to reply "Because we were on a double date to see it... 'Friend.'" Not the only person that happened with, not by a long shot. Basically if they're not getting something from you, don't dare ask them for (Or about, apparently) ANYTHING.
This girl I was hanging out with and dating like to throw in my face things about other men hitting on her, being friends with her on Facebook and social media and remaining friends with all of her ex-boyfriends. I gave her the ultimatum and all she said was that I was insecure and she's going to remain friends with them forever. She was a cool chick, but I don't need the stress. Next
I have a female friend.
Do I want to nail her? No.
Would I nail her? Yes... I don't let her cry on my shoulder though, we just go to the movies together once in awhile.
Yeah, I'd say the same.
I WOULD smash, but I don't try to, regardless if I had a chance or not. There's more value in the friendship
Hate to break it to ya bud, you are her girlfriend.
Of course you would smash her you are a guy, but would she allow you? NO, you are her girlfriend
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Girlfriends can bang. Once in a blue moon if there's enough alcohol involved.
I don't really disagree with this as long as she pays her own way at least most of the time, or if its a thing where whoever invites pays the tab. Keep it equal at least. I mean come on, who wants to go to the movies with a guy friend, not always the best choice. I understand what a bromance is, but I wouldn't invite a male friend to check out a new restaurant as my first choice if I didn't want to go alone.
In my opinion it depends on context of the friendship. Some women that I have been friends with are physically attractive, but maturity wise they felt younger than me. It felt like I was friends with a younger sister. Most of the time though, no it's hard for men and women to just be friends.
The beard is looking great!
Spot........on
If you’re not her boyfriend, you’re her girlfriend. Facts.
Even at 18 l knew l couldn’t be friends with this girl l’ve been chasing. Went at her about 3 times with NO LUCK. I knew it would have been too one-sided, as l was the one who was emotional. After the 3rd time l stopped talking to that coworker (stopped trying to impress her) and after that she still tried to get me to think there was a chance like dangling a string in front of a cat. I was like no way, you made up your mind, now l can move on.
I feel that being an attractive woman I often have to hold the boundary in place. If I give a green light then I think there is always a possibility. If I don’t at all, then I can be friends with him, but it’s still too complicated at times and I feel like it’s very hard to be close at all. They all have tried to hit on me at some point
At the heart of every relationship is a mutual being or gain. Most men can name multiple ways his nonsexual companionship benefits a woman/women. I can’t think of too many ways a women’s nonsexual companionship is beneficial to men.
Spot on. I've never had real close friendship with a woman, mainly because I didnt see the point. What were they going to provide to me in a friendship?
I think men have female friends in hopes of sleeping with them. Females have guy friends to do guy stuff for them, like help move or build an ikea desk, because Chad typically wont do that stuff.
I have 4 sisters so I’ve always connected with girls who I don’t see myself in a relationship with and had the same type of relationship that I did with my sisters. There is a lot of value in having non sexual friendships with women like social proof, they could introduce you to other girls, you really get to understand the way they think and why they behave the way they do. I have always been naturally good with women and I think a lot of that come from that.
yes and no, it's depends on lot of things
I agree with the general view. Every random female I interacted with purposefully, was because I was attracted to them. I put female relationships in three categories. 1) You want her sexually and you usually get what you want. Possible partner, ONS or similar. 2) co-worker that you are "nice" to and do so to keep the work environment positive. And usually fake or pushing them away. Don't shit where you eat etc. 3) Family or near family females. Very rare but I have been lucky to be close to my sister and we support each other. As well as my current sister in law. She has semi masuline traits and gets how shit works. She is always supportive of me and kills it at being a wingman when needed. It's instant social value having her around when I get in the mood to hook up. Know the difference and respect it.
There's this girl I hang out with a lot in university, admittedly she is attractive and I would be lying if I said I didn't have half a mind to try and date her. But then she brought up her boyfriend and at that moment I turned away from any romantic intentions. The reason I stuck around is because she's really goofy and fun to hang out with. She's also a very kind and generous person. We have a few classes together and help each other with academics so in that sense we do stuff for each other. I would definitely consider her a friend.
I know this is a three-year-old comment but I'm in the exact same situation right now . This girl that I know she's super fun and goofy to hang out with . She said that she has no romantic interest to me but . I'm looking at her like she could be my wing girl now . So I can have access to other girls . Because when girls see her laughing and having a great time with me . There gonna be more attracted to me because of her .
It's like on Seinfeld, sometimes you're friends with a girl waiting out her relationship. Both Jerry & Elaine did it. It also depends on your situation, say you go out to night clubs a lot. Then yes female friends help, they talk you up to other girls. Show up at a lineup with 3 hot girls on your arms, you're not waiting in line. I remember a girl whining in my 20s "why can't we just be friends" and I remember telling her, I have enough friends that's what my guys are for.
They say you should befriend the girl first and then the friendly relationship will hopefully develop into something else. I don't believe that bull crap blue pill mentality. It is either she is attracted to you or she is not. Period.
There's always friends with benefits however that doesn't usually last in the long term realm of things
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I have only been in two relationships but neither would have tolerated my having guy friends who were not in relationships themselves and even than with reservations. They were both the jealous type, sometimes scary jealous which is why I left the relationships. Men are very territorial. Maybe as men age the jealousy goes a way but I'm not seeing it. If a woman is "spinning plates" as the PUA community likes to call it, she can have as many "friends" as she wants but I cannot see it working in a committed relationship. That is one reason couples form friendships and eye with suspicion the single person amongst them. Sex brings out the vulnerabilities in people and puts them on guard.
Firstly; I fully agree with you on this, but should one want to play the 'friend' play one should know that it can be a short or long play. Never fool yourself about your intentions. You should only play this game when you are not interested in the girl but want to get closer to her friends. Access is king. This is the long game. If she puts you in a friend zone while you are interested in her you owe it to yourself to see if you can get out of that zone and into the intimate zone, this should be as short as possible otherwise it becomes sad.
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Even if the man isn't attracted his his 'friend', she'll never return his affection. The real problem is that men and women approach friendship with very different expectations. If two men are best friends, each will be willing to make sacrifices for the other & will trust each other unconditionally. Men who betray their friends are pariahs among other men because loyalty is a masculine virtue.
Women don't have friends like this. For a woman, her friend is just another chick she gossips to or goes on shopping excursions with; there's no expectation among women that your gurlfriend will 'stand by you' if your life goes south, so no one gets hurt when this happens.
But if a guy becomes a girl's friend with the expectation that she will reciprocate his masculine sense of loyalty, he's going to get hurt sooner or later... A man CAN have a platonic relationship with a woman he isn't attracted to, but he should NEVER consider her a friend. Woman can only be 3 things to a guy: family, f*** buddies, or acquaintances.
And yes, there probably are exceptions. But do you really want to risk your emotional health on a girl who very likely is NOT one of those exceptions? I'd sooner play a game of russian roulette.
Most of the point quite right. Something to add::: Life is a game of numbers.. because I have some female friends I got to meet more women .. ;)
The only way it could/would legitimately work/,be a legit platonic relationship is if both parties are totally, unequivocally unnatracted to one another. And no room for improvement ( in attraction).
Even that doesn't work, trust me. If she has no attraction to you she sees no value in you. They are callous creatures that want male orbiters not friends and if she see you as "just a friend" she secretly despises you but keeps it a secret because she wants attention.
Good Video!....So... I have questions,...What would you say if the girl you’re dating has one or a couple male friends? Would you believe her if she said they were just friends?
How would you know if she friend zoned them?
Would you even tolerate her having any male friends?
men and women are different species. men respect another man's strength (which is why you see boys become pals after a fight.) this option simply isn't possible for intra species friendship.
men and women can acknowledge each other. but "friends" - truly, truly rare.
Having a number of good female friends can in my opinion really enhance your life. Males and females are very different so each friendship has its own benefits and problems, you just have to know what to do and when to do it. The main reason for people saying it doesn't work is, like Rich said in the video, too many guys are attracted to a woman and get stuck in the friendzone. That is not real friendship, that is desperation
Women can also be placed in the friend zone. I found out that my gf used to have feelings for her “best friend” and at that point that disqualifies that friendship in my eyes if you wanna be with me. I believe that there can only be a platonic male/female friendship where there is ZERO attraction.
Honestly I think its not good having an atratactive oposite sex has best friend, because eventually you will mix up things in your head. And overthinking causes dilemas and ruins relationships.
Even if you arent in a relationship, a deep relation with someone from the oposite sex will always be a hard thing to deal with by 3rd persons who want that girl/guy attention.
Absolutely not, anytime I see a guy hanging around a girl and they appear to be "friends" its quite clear that he is the one looking for sex not the other way around.
This isn’t is a yes-or-no type of question; it depends on the individual.
However, it’s still really simple. If you’re a man who is interested in friendship with a woman, and you’re able and willing to accept that she might never be interested in you sexually or romantically, then go for it. If you jive as friends, there’s no problem. If you aren’t interested in that type of platonic friendship, then don’t expect it to be anything more.
I actually Friend Zone women all the time. No issues with that process for me
I have a couple female "friends" but they are married to other men, that said, I do not spend alone time with them in any capacity. I respect them and their husband's boundaries. Of course these are older women than me and are very traditional, so I am more like a friend of the family as opposed to a friend of that woman. But no, I do not have time for female classmates, co-workers, or any woman that is my age whether by choice or not.
Being friends just only dose, is give you blue ball's frustration lol
I'm female and have a male friend, I find his company really fun and we have a laugh together talking about human psychology and the world and men and woman and always, always laugh a lot. No sex involved.
I'm definitely not the best guy to argue about this, but I think you are right although not covering the whole thing
There have been a few women whom I felt to be my friends just like the male ones. Problem is at least one of those once had a thing for me so that would be kinda the counter example..
This is why on first dates I always at some point make a move, which is a clear indication for her to view me as a romantic partner and not her buddy
I am guy but have some female friends all of them are not my type but considered them my friends. So yes it is very possible.
So, NO
This is a good topic and I don't think the matter is settled. It doesn't seem like men/women can be friends in most cases, but there are caveats. For example, a woman can be friends with a man when she's also friends with his gf/wife (i.e., they all hang out together and get along). I know gay men with close platonic female relationships. I'm still good friends with a woman I never dated - she came to my wedding with her husband. On the other hand, people often don't understand what "friend" even means. There are different kinds of friends, or at least levels of friendship (e.g., bff vs. acquaintances). I just had a client THIS morning who's wife thought some guy flirting with her at school was "just being friendly" - ofc her husband was pissed... A lot of people are too extreme on the naive vs. paranoid spectrum when it comes to intersex friendship, which is a shame. I personally tend towards suspicion, especially given how dangerous it can be to befriend a woman (as a man).
The part about helping your friend bury a dead body if you’re a “real friend” is crazy, assuming you’re being serious. A real friend wouldn’t put me in a position where I’m an accessory to murder. The only person in the world id even consider doing that for is my brother, my flesh and blood. If you’re a “friend,” you gotta go deal with that yourself, I’m not risking life in prison for you when I did nothing to put you in that position to begin with.
Age is a big factor here
Everything can be replaced in life.
But time can never get back, so stop lying to yourself. What really sad is that the reason why the friend zone" exist. If you dont know than you probably shouldn't.
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My Opinion is, that they can't be friends like men are friends with each other
When you have a “women friend“ as a men, your first intent when you interacted with her was because you found her to be attractive, and you probably wanted to have sex with her.
If you had the choice wether to be friends or be intimate with her you would have chosen the later.
The “Friendship“ is more of a compromise, and usually not a good one for men
No argument from me. When Harry Met Sally still true today. "I'll have what she's having!"
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The most important question here is are these people in an exclusive relationship or single? If anyone allows for friends of the opposite sex while in an exclusive relationship, you're just asking for trouble. I don't mean a coffee or lunch once in a while with a colleague or a "catch up" on a Sunday afternoon with a friend from college. I am talking about going to get smashed with someone of the opposite sex on a Friday night while your significant other is hitting the gym. Or texting half-naked or underwear pics to a 'friend" while telling you it's inappropriate if you ask for the same pic. Hey, they're "just friends"...
I've had lots of male friends over the years... some have been genuine friends and some ghosted when they realised I was never going to sleep with them. It is what it is. I don't think you can ever say men and women can't be friends. Depends on how emotionally mature the guy is. I think we all just need to realise that humans are flawed and stop saying men are all like this or women are all like that, we are all just humans. There is good and bad in all of us. Every human being is self serving ultimately.
Didn’t When Harry Met Sally already cover this? Lol. This is an area where being attractive is kinda a disadvantage. When your attractive you don’t really know if the opposite sex is just angling to bang you (men or women). When your unattractive your pretty confident that if someone is talking to you/friends with you it’s more because they genuinely like you. There’s no ulterior motive. (Well assuming their not asking for money or do your homework, fix your car, whatever).
What I tend to notice at work (office/cubicles), is that male coworkers seek out females sometimes for emotional type stuff that they probably would not be as comfortable talking with to their guy friends. They will talk about stresses they are having due to ill parents, children with some mental health concerns, occasionally relationship problems, etc. I’m glad when a guy can vent...there’s enough pressure in life, we shouldn’t be keeping everything bottled up inside.
I enjoy talking to guys at work about certain movies or tv shows....if your into more guy shows like Breaking Bad or we always joke that we are living in idiocracy, etc. Some of my girlfriends don’t get those references. I tend to like the Goodfellas, Die Hard, Star Wars, type movies. Some if that is gender, but some of that is age too, of who you click more with.
I don’t think you can usually categorize the opposite sex friends as shovel friends. I think shovel friends are usually those friends you’ve had since you were kids. Even if you haven’t seen them in a long time, you pick right up again (hopefully not having to pick up actual shovels, lol).
In all honesty the closest form of a female friend for a man is a co worker or club activity.men have more in commen with men without the gossip.
If she's hit the wall be can be aquantences but that's about it. A friend is someone who does favors for you. Women don't do shit for a man unless she's trying to land him and sometimes not even then.
Friends also don't share private information with others. Sharing private info with a woman is like posting it all over social media.
I often strike up good friendships with truly unavailable women. Happily married, lesbians. That way there's no underlying crap. They don't cry on my shoulder, I'm not trying to sleep with them.