Drum Teacher Reacts to John Bonham - The Ocean - Led Zeppelin - Episode 21
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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Steve's analysis, initial reactions and hot takes of John Bonham of Led Zeppelin playing "The Ocean"
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John Henry Bonham has the best right foot, the best left foot, the two best hands and the best head ever attached to a drumming human being. Period.
average old fool
You haven't heard too many drummers lol
"Damn Robert is that real?" Man that had me rolling and you have a new subscriber!
You're so right, led zeppelin is and was the best rock band
IMHO the all-time best hard rock band. Each member a phenomenal talent that were unparalleled as a unit. Such a downer that Bonham passed away at only 32 (RIP Bonzo!). Sad fact: The other great drummer of this period, Keith Moon, also passed at 32..
I agree
Bullshit, The Who is
@@MrBrungers no one listens to the who now a days, they're all washed up has beens
I only discovered Led Zeppelin two years ago and I was totally blown away. There is a chemistry in their playing that no other band i know has.
More videos on John Bonham are absolutely welcome!
Mayakhedive Malkuth check out Ten Years Gone, hard to pick a favorite but I like that one a lot. Peace.
Thanks for the recommendations. In fact upon listening to their debut I bought all their albums.
"Achilles last stand" is one of my favorites although Peace Maker is right, it's hard to pick.
Peace everyone.
@@gsxrkz Zep is my fav, but Rush also has that chemistry.
As much as we praise bonham (and rightfully so) JPJ is the glue and the fluid that made that band truly swing! Bass and keys just an absolute monster!
Every member of the band was incredibly talented, but Bonzo was their heart and soul. Greatest. Drummer. Ever.
If you want to understand why, watch "What Makes John Bonham Such a Good Drummer?". It's a technical analysis of his style and a good one too, no disrespect to this content creator.
He was definitely the most versatile.
Absolutely...JPJ was and still is...The most underrated guy in this band....but when you put JPJ and Bonham together...this is by far the best rhythm section EVER !
And YES John was the one singing the count down into on this song!
you got to remember that JPJ and Page were session guys during one of the most prolific moments in rock. JPJ arranged some really big songs from the mid/late 60's. He was Zep's secret weapon
The Ocean is also my favorite Led Zeppelin song!
The Rover is a close second
Mine is "Out on the Tiles". Just look at my screen name. :-)
There are so many great Zeppelin songs I don't even know where to begin after that. LOL!
Let's give it a try and in no particular order.
The Song Remains the Same
Tangerine
Bron-Y-Aur Stomp
The Rain Song
D'yer Mak'er
In My Time of Dying
That's the Way
I Can't Quit You Baby
How Many More Times
Thank You
The Ocean
No Quarter
A Fool in the Rain
South Bound Saurez
I agree with everything you said about Zep and Bonzo.
Young drummers who haven't heard of John Bonham, or actually heard John Bonham, will more than likely play John Bonham licks, because the drummers they listen to, have heard and played Bonzos licks.
"THAT,THAT RIGHT THERE" lol. Greatest.
I was surprised (in a way) how on point his Son Jason is.
He played with Groove and he played with Feel.
the part about how iconic each member was! i couldn't agree more. how the universe came together and created that is beyond me. They are each arguably the greatest at there position. all in one band. also i hear a lot of joe morello in bohnams style as well. that is the amazing thing about music in general how it progresses and evolves with every generation...
Yes, John Henry Bonham is hella funky! He's also Jazzy, Bluesy and Rocky. The reason he'll always only be imitated and never replicated is because of the feel of his groove and the way he riffed & improvised with Jimmy Page & John Paul Jones.
John Bonham: RIP, the man, the myth, and the legend!
I so agree with you that there will never be a band like Led Zeppelin ever again.
The chemistry between them was unique and like you point out, its some kind of telepathy between them.
We just have to be grateful that we are around to listen to their great music!
Dude, I know exactly how you feel! It’s almost a sense of helplessness and a lot of WTF! How is Zeppelin so good?! I’m a musician too and have been lucky enough to tour the world numerous times for playing my guitar, which I would’ve been doing anyway! lol I obviously stole a ton from Page too. I love The Beatles too, but they never rocked like Led Zep. Zeppelin was the perfect storm at the perfect time. It will never happen again with that type of intensity and ingenuity. What I mean by it, is that Rock n’ roll was still pretty new at the time at only approximately 20 yrs old, and was still being invented. I could go on and on and on...
Great vid, man! Thanks!
I'm not a musician. In fact I'm a techie with no artistic talent whatsoever, unless one considers the artistic aspect in creating computer code. LOL!
That being said and from very early on there was something at a deep, organic or cellular level that spoke to me of the greatness of the band. It blows the mind, fills the heart and frees the soul to soar to amazing heights!
The other band that speaks to the depths of my being is Rush. Another absolutely electric band.
Before I moved to what was once my vacation property I had a four hour drive I'd do several times each summer. The entire journey, both ways, was filled with Zeppelin and Rush CDs. Driving through the mountains with that music permeated every fiber of my being and melted away all the worries and weariness the world could throw my way. :-)
I would absolutely consider you an artist. Wether you’re creating music, designing a blueprint, or creating computer code, you are still creating. I consider that to be an artist; one who creates.
From what I wrote, it’s obvious that we both get the same feeling from bands such as Zeppelin, Rush, Beatles, etc. They touch our souls.
I bet those some of those drives were over before you expected by getting lost in such beautiful scenery while listening to such beautiful music that penetrated every cell in your body. You certainly don’t have to be a musician for music to touch you in a deep and meaningful way.
Have a great rest of your week, and I hope you get a chance to get little breaks via the magic of music throughout!
- Nick
@@NickP333 I work from home now and often have some music or other playing in the background. Well, unless I'm on a Skype conference call. LOL!
I also love solo pianists. Note to self: Add more solo pianists to playlist!
And yes, driving through the Adirondack Mountains of Upstate New York is very scenic. This past weekend I loaded up my kayak and fishing gear and took a two hour drive to a remote pond, passing through Lake Placid. Leaf Peepers were out in force!
Sending Good Vibrations your way! :-)
Everyone always remembers where they were and what they were doing when hearing Zep for the first time man good times
Doc Riley so fucking true
My dad always used to say... all 4 of them were fucking unreal, they are rock gods.
I bought every Led Zeppelin album when I was a kid growing up box set
You know, Bonham gets a whole lotta love, and rightfully so. He's fucking amazing.
Someone else who is equally important, though, and someone who I don't see enough love for is Mitch Mitchell. His work on Manic Depression, in particular, is a master class.
The NotSoGuitarGuy agree totally..Mitch Mitchell was a magician behind a kit
I found Led Zeppelin in 1991, from the back of our van, while my grandma played one of the new remasters tapes for my mom, kind of a nostalgia thing for them.. a complete revelation for me. I listened to What Is and What Should Never Be and it just felt right. I had found the music my soul was craving.
Your love of John Bonham and Led Zeppelin Is infectious, I really enjoyed watching the video. Saw them at Birmingham Townhall England 1970. Just four guys in t-shirts and jeans playing rock and roll. That night felt special...and it was!
Man, just discovered your channel---considered me subscribed. It was awesome to watch you find out Bonham did backups once in a while. Love your enthusiasm. More people should know Zep. Best.Band.Ever.
Dude last year my dad gave me the huge CD four set....I almost cried
I used to stare at that crop circles case next to my dads 80’s component stereo system.
I remember when I was kid and my school mates wanted to form a band, we were hard into rock and Led Zeppelin was already a legend and we listened like bees to a field of blossoming flowers to every song they made. It was great but the years passed and the band broke up to dreams that never were. I drifted away from rock and ole Zeppelin but I started hearing a song here and song there from poking around into the old newsgroups full of FLAC audio and I remembered why I loved them. It's like I'm reconnecting and re-experiencing why I loved them in the first place. So unique and so talented.
What he did on “Fool in the rain” is incredible and brilliant too.
Except he straight up stole that.
@@gibsonfan159 From? (I know who; just curious if you do.. lol)
Another great video. Led Zeppelin is the best band of all time and I love seeing the sentiment shared.
Hell, all you have to do is listen to “Good Times Bad Times” if you want to know how different he is. “Fool in the Rain” is pretty great. They were indeed the best band ever
Anita Paulus
Physical Graffiti is my personal fav
So true sis!😊👍
Those are definitely his two greatest performances imo. As far as the main drumbeat goes.
I remember that weekend (Martha Quunn) I recorded the SRS on VHS, and wore it out. This tune didn't even make the cut. I coun't the foot as 16th note trips. Anyway, Bonham truly had it all. Everything about all things drums changed once Bonham hit the scene. Kits, cymbals, etc..I wish there was 30 second footage of just his R foot. They groove so hard, it's almost impossible to tell when they're in odd times. They never played the same song the same way twice (including drum solo). These guy read each other's minds. I can go on forever. Bonham is no question the most influential drummer of all time! Glad you posted this vid!
I'm 57 so I remember Zeppelin being around (saw them live in NY in 1977). Always my favorites,but the Zeppelin/Bonham lovefest that exists now wasn't really there in their last days. Only in retrospect do musicians realize these guys were the best.
Would love to see you do some analysis of other great classic hard rock/heavy metal drummers:
Black Sabbath with Bill Ward
Deep Purple with Ian Paice
Rainbow with Cozy Powell
That switch in signature, people who are not musicians have no idea how hard that is to do. Most bands would have to look into each others eyes before switching like that, but Zeppelin does it as if it is some command from above (or below as the case may be lol). Simply incredible!
John Bonham is the KING of all Rock Drummers !!!!
I’m glad you brought up his funk style. People always talk about their hard rock style. They actually a more of a bluesy band with a touch of rock, folk, country etc. It irritates me when people only think of bonzo as just as a hard rocker. He had just an essence for the groove
The best! Love em or hate em,no band sounds like or will ever push the envelope like Zep.
John did sing background vocals a lot. They used to turn Jimmy Pages microphone way down because he thought he could sing and his voice was so off key
Carmel Aruck didn’t he do the intro before the music to the ocean itself...
“You got 4 already but now we’re steady and then they went 1..2..3..4”
‘Yes, F’in yes yes yes!’ Exactly how we all feel after listing to Zepp
Dude I love your take on this. You are 100% on everything you said about Bonham and Zeppelin. They are simply the fucking greatest for so many reasons
In the studio he was all business. The song came first , his playing was tight and concise. Live he was an animal. Always trying some impossible new fill. Sometimes they didn't work but when they did there was no comparable. That's why he was the greatest. NO FEAR.
It makes me feel old to think about the days before RUclips when we would pass around VHS tapes of Zeppelin concerts and interviews. It was the only way to see them because they didn't do much press. Bonham had a great singing voice. He also did live back up vocals on Bron-Y-Aur Stomp too. Hope you get around to breaking down his Fool in the Rain iso track. Some of the best drumming ever recorded. Great Purdie Shuffle groove that shows off his finesse.
right on, makes me feel old being fukn old! 💀🔨
Great review! Greatest band to ever walk on planet earth! Your right it will never happen again!
Great comment!!
I was born in 68 and I discovered Zeppelin around 1987 and the song that did it for me was (Since I've Been Loving You) A mixture of great Blues and Rock plus Beautiful lyrics. I listen to that song at least once a week!!
As someone who grew up in the 70s and Zeppelin being my favorite to listen to this gentleman makes my heart skip a beat he totally gets it... I enjoy all types of music but each person has a sweet spot so I'll take a Zep and a beer thank you.
I still have that same box set I don't have a tape player anymore, but I still have those tapes - and the Stones box set from the same era)
War Pigs live in Paris with Bill Ward I'd recommend please, Bonham is my fav but Ward is 2nd
Akatosh's Disciple
That performance is awesome
Yes that is my favorite Ward performance ever. It’s mesmerizing.
Honesly Bill is just my favorite straight up. then Paice, then Bonham
@@paulshaum3421 I can respect that.
@@akatoshsdisciple2909 I'm glad, theres some people that'll string you up by the balls if you say that
Dude i'm not even a drummer and i live on the other side of the Antlantic .. but you're one of my musical soulbrothers. Just from you're reaction to the gods i Know it. Liked subscribed and wishing you all the luck in the world. Best wishes for you and you're family and LED ZEPPELIN FOR LIFE 🤘
Who wants to play baseball if LED Zeppelin is on tv
For real, homie. Led Zeppelin > baseball.
You can never ever beat Bonzo. Thanks for your thoughts. Regarding the evolution of their songs in the live arena, it's really worth taking a look at Whole Lotta Love from Knebworth 1979. Almost ten years playing that number and they were still finding new nuggets.
I discovered the mighty Zep when I was 14/15yo (1976/77) and I've never looked back! New subscriber from Southern Calif.
I was just telling my 16 year old last night about how I discovered Led Zeppelin - the MTV Rocumentary in '90 or '91 when I was 13 or 14. That changed my life. Got the box set for Christmas the year it came out, and that was it.
John Bonham singing back on Bron-Y-Aur Stomp as well.
Glad I finally found another drummer who understands Bonzo. I'm 62 heard bonham in 69 Still drumming now 43 yrs I always said he mixed funk with jazz and blues. I'm such a fan I cry when I play the song remains the same movie. I know sounds silly but I'm that big a fan. I'm also a singer guitarist so I keep the zepp alive. Great stuff thankyou 😎
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE him so much!!! I got the symbol tattooed on my leg!
Led Zeppelin box (crop circles) set was so freaking awesome! I still have the booklet!
We would sit around like That 70’s Show style and listen to Led Zeppelin for hours!
Thoughts on his Vistalite drums?
Bass player here. I'm in dude love it
There was also the "Rockumentary" on MTV that weekend in '90. There were some low-quality uploads of that on youtube. Traveling Riverside Blues and Over the Hills and Far Away were made into promotional videos on MTV to hype the box set release.
Cool man. That's funny. I'm a bit like you. I'm 46 now and I discovered Led Zeppelin when I was 15 in 1988. The Beatles were my favorite group at the time, still one of them. I had recently moved to Detroit from Chicago, and eventually back to Chicago, and a buddy of mine played When the Levee Breaks to see what I thought of it. I remember that I told him that it was cool and he said that I only liked it because they said Chicago in it. Lol, 30 years later I should find him and tell him what a journey he set me off on. No one better than these four lads. Rock on!
I cant believe you didnt know Bonzo sang,the backing vocals on this track lol.
The passion you show while talking about the Led is exactly what I am like.
Loved the video mate
Some notable drumming songs: Achilles Last Stand, Good Times Bad Times, Black Dog
So, I started playing electric guitar in 1972. Thus, my focus was from the guitar side of music. Listening to you, I am getting to relisten and focus more on the drummer aspect of music. Thank you for that.
That was a fun ride man thanks! You out-complimented me on Bonham, thought I was the greatest Bonham praiser out there but you win bro....
You sir, are 100% correct about Job Bonham's right foot.
I was lucky enough to see page and plant in 1995 or was it 1996 in Irvine, ca, I’ve got to admit the cat that played with them that night , a guy named Michael Lee actually filled in bonhams, shoes very nicely , other than him no drummer in the world could have done it.Seeing him play with them in videos just doesn’t do him justice,you had to be there to understand what I mean.Best drummer I’ve ever seen.
Still have the cds from the box set that i bought on release in 1990. Sadly, I lost the box somewhere along the years
I remember that weekend. I watched it too. I got the box set as well. Was amazing.
I agree with everything you said. Period.
They were, are and WILL ALWAYS BE the ultimate rock band.
You sir have a new subscriber🤘
The infamous box set!!!! Yep...I had that too. I wish I had been young enough to see them perform live.
This was one of the tightest bands together in the industry. You are probably right, WAY too much power in a great band (and their manager). Thanks for covering Bonham.
Drums,and guitar fun to play the ocean.
I know nothing about drumming, but I would think Bonham's playing on "Fool In The Rain" is amazing.
You are very correct
Great video! We’re about the same age because I remember spending that same weekend glued in front of the TV absorbing Led Zeppelin. I ended up playing guitar, but I’m tempted to pick up drums after watching your videos. Thanks!!
I did a similar thing with Zeppelin but because of Page and been playing guitar ever since (1984)... funny story though... I took drum lessons for a few months as an adult and within 2 lessons my teacher said “You listen to a lot of Zeppelin and Floyd, right?” I didn’t know what he meant at the time, but he was right. Lol
Just found you and subscribed. Led Zeppelin is the GOAT. I remember 68 and huge they came to be. Incredible! They all were great musicians with a wide range of influences, including Buddy Rich for Bonzo. Great reaction!!!
I have some disagreements with several things you said, but because of my admiration of John Bonham, I see no reason to bring those up here. Instead, I'd rather share my experience at a Led Zeppelin concert in Greensboro, NC on 1/29/1975.
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About midway through the concert during Moby Dick, Bonham launched into a drum solo and the rest of the band left the stage to take a break. His solo lasted 25-30 minutes. About 5-10 minutes in, I tried to mimic him by playing "air drums," but my arms got worn out LONG before he finished his solo.
Eventually, the rest of the band returned and joined back in to finish the song... and Bonham didn't miss a beat. Then they went right into the next song without a break. I was impressed and amazed that he could keep on going like that for so long. He was like an unstoppable machine.
Ohh my goodness i am so jealous of you, and i agree 100% with you..TO me Zeppelin among The Who are the two greatest bands ever with bar far the two greatest Rhythm section.. JPJ & Bonzo and Entwistle& Moon..No one comes even close to that level!!
Yes Yes you nailed it !!!!!
For more backing vocals from Bonzo check live performances of "Bron Yuar Stomp" !
That is usually why the first two albums of a real good band are the best in terms of composition, because these guys had the chance to perfect the songs live before going in and recording. When the original pre-studio material runs out, they never really get that again. It is simply because they don't get that play it to the audience until it FITS before recording in the studio again.
John did a lot of unison playing with Jimmy. Being as powerful and groove oriented as John was, his ear a feel around the melody was absolutely exceptional. How well they listened to each other gave the opportunity to say something fresh. That's so rare these days as to be non-existent in rock and pop anymore. Thank god for jazz is all I can say.
i do think they are the greatest rock and roll band of all time , and iam born 1995 listen to a lot of heavy metal music in my high school and early college years, iam amazed how led zeppelin influences a lot of those bands in particular john bonham
Gonna have to revisit this band about 100 times! Great vid!
I have listened to and played along with hundreds of drummers in my drum shed as a kid but now years on there is still something about Bonham’s groove which makes him stand above other drummers’. Also I had years of lessons so I know there are more technical drummers Palmer, Vinnie, Weckl, Gadd: Bozzio can do amazing technical feats but they don’t give me the feeling I get from Good Times Bad Times and my personal favourite The Rain Song. Seriously overlooked Bonham track. Also not many drummers can play 1 and 3 bass drum 2 and 4 on the snare and make it sound interesting but Bonham does on Kashmir with a few nicely placed triplets intermittently. Simple but seriously effective. Also no one needs reminding of the amazing upgrade he gave to the Purdie half time shuffle. Bonham often gets called a thudder by critics as he was a heavy hitter but listen to the 16th note triplets on the bass drum on Good Times Bad Times. The dexterity and precision required should not be underestimated. Poetry in motion.
Yep. It's called style. If John Bonham played on some different song of some random group and you were hearing it without knowing anything about it, you would be able to pick him out. I don't know that we could say that about alot of other drummers.
That box set is awesome
This is so fun to play on the kit. Nice warm up. Also, laughed at the pause on Plants "Hog"
My Top Three All-Time Drummers John Bonham, Mitch Mitchell, And Of Course The Professor.
Rock on! Congrats from Brazil ! 🎸🇧🇷
On odd time signatures: I think someone said of Rush's Limelight that you just don't notice that it's going through all the time signature changes because it flows so well as a song. They probably didn't think "hey, let's switch between 3/4 and 4/4 with some 2/2 thrown in too" while writing it.
Led Zeppelin, Soundgarden..... My two dreambands. Love your videos!!
I am 100% with you...they are the greatest rock and roll band ...EVER.
I’m an old hippie chick, 69 years old. Seeing Led Zeppelin in Atlanta in 1973....actually did change my, along with some incredibly good acid, Lebanese hash and the always present ass kicking weed. Well I’m almost at the end of my life (COPD). My only request is to have the nurses put headphones on my head so I can be blasting Zeppelin when I take my last breath. I’ve seen many concerts, Rush, Pink Floyd, early Genesis and Yes....Led Zeppelin was the very best, the Greatest of All Time!
Annie in TN
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Junkdrummer TV Thank you. I’m a open honest person. I have nothing but love to give. These days I have no one to give that love to (I’m a widow, I lost my beloved two years ago to the same illness that is taking me out) .......so I’m pouring it all into the music I love and those who play. Therefore, I give you my love for putting a smile on my face, on a difficult day. Much love 💕 💗
Annie in TN
Thank you for letting me hopefully entertain you a little.
Yeah Bonham also played along with Page...I love Bonham however I also love Thin Lizzy, Philip Lynott and Brian Downey were an amazing rhythm section!!!💯
Thank you for the video you have inspired me I'm gonna stop it a little short to go play my drums
I was actually in a band with a drummer who became the singer who said that he didn't understand all the hubbub about John Bonham. He just said he drummed on the beat and played for for most of his career. I told him he just doesn't get it with all the ghosts hits in the Finesse and the feel. Our days were numbered after that
Great breakdown of what is going on. Thanks for explaining this so someone like me can understand.
Anytime!! Please check my other vids
I play my 32nd notes on the bass drum by sliding my foot but it’s such a small amount no one would ever know I was sliding. It looks to come 100% from my ankle. I never knew exactly what I was doing until I payed attention one day trying to figure out why my left foot wasn’t as strong as my right foot. My old drum teacher is probably the closest you’ll get to John Bohnham but I’m fairly certain I figured out that technique on my own since I had my chops unfortunately BEFORE I knew what time was. I’m sure it was something I absorbed from listening to Led Zeppelin. The school system failed me and I was forced to play clarinet until I rebelled. So I played clarinet for 4 years since I liked being in band but my heart was with the drums. For me it’s the ULTIMATE lesson of how you can’t get back lost time.
I heard Immigrant song on my parent's HiFi when I was 5 years old. That primal rhythm stunned me and as a young girl I had to emulate it. Now as a 54 year old grandmother I can proudly say I have mastered Song Remains the Same, Achilles Last Stand and a few others. Bonzo was a driven rhythm master - so much clever variety, nuance and emotion. If I were to ever give in a get a tattoo it would have to be Bonzo related.
I love this!
@@JunkdrummerTV I appreciate your appreciation for JHB and LZ - the 9th planet. ;)
I'm a 53 year old amateur guitar player who loves all music. Please upload a video of you playing along with one of those Zep songs. I imagine it would you could kick ass. Cheers from the canadian Queen nut.
I love my grandmother's but have to admit that if either of my grandmother's played drums and play Zeppelin I would feel I have the greatest grandma ever.
Keep up the good work and keep pounding those skins ( oops that didn't sound right) lol.
@@jeffcampbell668 Gosh I would totally do that Jeff! My husband bought me a beautiful Pearl set back in 2016, Matte Natural Maple right when my health began to fail. I held onto if for 2 years and let it go to a young guy for a good price. Gratefully my health is ever-so-gradually improving and if I have to I will go on over to Guitar center and have my hubby video me playing Song Remains the Same on one of their sets :P It's like riding a bike - once you learn you know it :)
I agree with everything you said. He is the greatest
Robert Plant said in an interview that his thing area is named Percy.
I’m not a drummer and I wanted to be John Bonham. Thank God for the gifts of the Delta Blues, 40’s and 50’s Jazz and LED Zeppelin. Rock would not have evolved without them!
Speaking the truth brother 👍
I quite enjoyed t this! Bonham played thirty second notes on one bass drum, where it takes most other drummers two bass drums to do it!