Who Is the Greatest Drummer of All Time? Lars Ulrich Settles the Debate
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Lars Ulrich joins Howard and the Stern Show staff in deciding whether John Bonham or Neil Peart is the greatest drummer of all time.
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These people have clearly never heard me at my cubicle desk with two pencils.
Lol
I know. You rule dude!
You ought to hear me at a red light tapping on the steering wheel, especially if I’ve got the turn signal on!
Hahahah right on!
You are by far my favorite of all cubicle desk drummers!
ANIMAL of THE MUPPETS is the greatest drummer of all time...
Stewart Copeland is better than a lot of people will ever realize.
He's huge in the drum community, almost all drummers like myself are huge Stewart Copeland fans
Good choice...ty.
Good choice.
Very true but I think Neil Peart and Dennis Chambers are also a good option. In general I’m not one of those ‘the best’ types
Definitely!
"Neil Peart is your favorite drummer's favorite drummer." - Dave Grohl
Danny Carey has the power of Bonham and the speed of Peart, and an iconic style all his own.
Thank you, Lars, for putting IAN PAICE😁❤
Paice was/is a better snare worker than either Peart or Bonham.
'When the levee breaks' still gives me goosebumps. Brilliant.
Peart and Bonham were in different bands. Most people are biased based on the type of music each band palyed.
I would have to agree with that
That's true and I love both bands, but there's something ethereal about Zeppelin that Rush doesn't quite touch on for me.
Neil was definitely better technically and had a great sense of groove and creativity in his own right, but Bonham was literally a god on the drums. Everything he played moves you.
No one can do what Neil did. Neil could do what everyone did.
Bill Ward is criminally underrated in these discussions, I'm not really a drummer but the first two Sabbath albums are so fun to play on drums. Same with Zeppelin too, I have no problems with Bonham being considered the best but Ward needs to at least be mentioned!
I'm also really into Megadeth right now and Gar Samuelson was a monster.
Nick Menza too RIP
I agree 100% about Bill Ward...he was a beast...!!
YES! Even the Gar part. I'd pick him over Nick Menza
Hear, hear! Love for Bill Ward!
(Nick Menza was great too.)
The criticism of Bill is that he is a bit too orchestral in his style. Could be he is dealing with crappy recording(no isolated snare and kick mic ) on those first couple albums.
I like that Lars gave a Shout out to Phil Rudd.Highly underrated IMHO.Not the most technical but nobody was better for ACDC.
Ian Paice is amazing, really like the shout out by Lars. Maybe over-shadowed by so many other state of the art rock musicians in Deep Purple because he definately seems underrated
John had a thunder soul to his drumming while Neil had god-like precision and quickness.
I agree with you. But as far as quickness I think John bonham's under rated. If you ever watched the song remains the same Bonham's hands just shred on Dazed and Confused. He out does himself in Dazed and Confused vs Moby Dick!
I really prefer Neil's earlier style where he had the classic rock of Bonham with a Stewart Copeland vibe in places
Yes exactly two very different approaches!
The world set their clocks to Pearts timing!
What about Keith moon or buddy rich???
Neil Peart. Dany Carey.
You’re half right
Nah. Peart certainly.
Neil Peart & Danny were actually really good friends, and they both kind of have similar styles of drumming, but I love both, to me there’s really no number 1 drummer, because they’re all so good, imo.
Good second for sure.
You nailed it
Neil Peart was a gift.
For me, both drummers are great, but I think Neil Peart could play Led Zep better than Bonham could play Rush. So to me, that makes Peart #1.
Calling Neil Peart a drummer is like calling Freddie Mercury a crooner. Neil Peart was a master percussionist. Bonham was a drummer.
Facts. 👍🏼
great point.
That’s why bonham is the best drummer
What is the difference?
So what? You can't whistle a tune played solo by a master percussionist. That's why people vote for John Bonham or Stuart Copeland. They both played on more songs which were played more often on more radio stations.
Jeff Porcaro ! You hear him on more music than you actually realize!!!!!
The one that isn't playing when you're tuning your guitar.
Drummers know this. This is why some drummers used to keep a coffee-can FULL of drumsticks next to the throne - for spares, yes, but also for throwing at annoying people(like guitar players). This is what led to the invention of in-line tuners for guitar, so that the guitar player can tune up and the crowd not have to listen. Drummers are now encouraged to not keep a large supply of ammunition for throwing at people. And so drummers are more socially accepted, now.
Seriously, there used to be books about "How To Start a Rock Band." And the book had a paragraph in it that said, "when you see a rock band, there's 3 guys with guitars, and another guy. The other guy is the drummer." So the drummer has always been a little different.
Hugely underappreciated comment
That’s so cool that Neil took an interest in Lars way back when. Reminds me of how Eddie Van Halen helped out Jerry Cantrell early in his career.
Bill Ward 's 'the wizard' parts are so smooth and swingy
The guy who both Bonzo and Neil took inspiration from, Keith Moon...but there isn’t a wrong answer, it’s preference
Neil made drummers want to play better and Bonham made everyone want to play drums.
Does Danny carey not get a mention? He is highly regarded by other artists
Sacrilege!! Neil went back to school in humility, and started all over again with a good teacher. From how he hit the drums to how he held the sticks; Neils spirit transcended being a musician. That combined with INSANE chops made him the greatest drummer ever. My top 5 are Neil Peart, Steve Gadd, Carter Beauford (most musical drummer), John Bonham and Dave Weckl.
Danny Carrey has to be in the discussion. But Bonham is the rock icon.
Amen Danny Carey is so technical
^ This right here. Was thinking this the whole time, but it's tough to go against the Gods/Legends of rock. I'd say if you took both away from their bands and had them play head to head in front of a group of people who didn't know who they were, Carrey would probably win, but I'm from that generation, not Bonham's.
I came here to say this. Danny Carey is other worldly.
If you throw Carrey into the discussion, I would also bring Chris Adler & Thomas Hakke to the table.
Never heard anyone like him, that should say something
Rick Allen of Def Leppard. The man still worked hard even with one arm removed. I respect the man for still being a drummer after that.
He was shitty before an slightly less shitty afterwards
never ever someone mentions him, thank you because it's just true, we really need to respect him for still drumming after losing an arm
I would say besides drums Neil was a genius and was very ambitious about educating himself and contributing great stories that turned into lyrical content.how much more well-rounded as a person into me that makes a person qualified to be a number one drummer.
Buddy Rich. No question. Howard likes to act like he knows music - but the best drummers are in the jazz genre, without a doubt.
Young Hemingway Ginger Baker.
perhaps Howard's talking about those working within a song. Someone that makes a song memorable and iconic just by the drumming alone and "When a levee breaks" is a good example of that....and John Bonham is a veritable source of those. In contrast, Buddy Rich is the most impressive to watch but really leaves me cold.
Okay hipster
Yeah, it's so kick ass to listen to a bunch of Buddy Rich?!
Im sure he meant “rock drummer”. Cause if it was greatest drummer in general then of course its Buddy Rich.
“Lars is the best drummer in the world and history”. -13 yo Timothy who recently listened to nothing else matters for the first time.
This is the best comment in this entire thread!
EXACTLY!!!! Touché
Something else splatters.. 🚽
@@lindsayheywood7195 hahahhahaha
They all b******* aside he is probably the best drummer in terms of a well-rounded person businessman and of course I believe deep down he was Neil peart's greatest fan. You'll never know that I'll never know that however judging by the storyline that went from their first album to justice for all he probably had some of the concept feedback to give to the albums and that's exactly if you notice what rush too there is wonderful story line with some of their albums less fantasy the Metallica but Metallica also had some similarity if you really listen to the lyrics and how everything builds up so do the math guys Lars Neil who knows maybe best friends rest in peace Neil I'm sure you battled for a long time now you finally get to see those loved ones that you had to miss so long ago so soon
As a drummer, it's like asking, "What is your favorite color?" Just like different colors can burst forth as most vibrant within context and contrast and light intensity and surroundings there are any number of greatest drummers, each in their given style and interpretive musicianship and in their given musical surroundings.
When I first got into classic rock, I noticed Bonham , Peart, Paice, Ward and Copeland more than any others. They stood out to my non musically trained ear.
It’s gotta be Neil Peart for me. As much as I fucking LOVE John Bonham, nothing blows my mind like listening to Neil. His drumming is truly hard to process it’s that good
No question about it. Neil Peart. I’ll never understand the argument for John Bonham although he was very good. Neil did so many amazing things over the years that made ihim so influential. If you want to compare the two. They’re missing many great drummers like buddy rich in this discussion.
I was going to say the same thing. Now Granite I'm not a huge Led Zeppelin fan but I do give credit where credit is due and John Bonham was a good drummer but I really don't think that John was better than Neal.
Agree as well, Bonham was amazing and had his own classic sound but Neil Peart is on a different planet hands down. Two different style of drummers. I can't believe Buddy Rich wasn't even mentioned in this conversation. Then again it's Howard Stern who's never played the drums lol.
"No question about it". Haha, as if your opinion is the final word on the subject. Always cracks me up when people say things like on something that's totally subjective.
John Bonham was good, but not as good as they say he is, imo. Neil was way better, in my opinion.
Buddy is the all time GOAT though
I LOVE Neil Pearts' playing. He is, by far, my favourite drummer. Having said that, when asked the question, "Who is the best drummer of all time?" any answer other than BUDDY RICH just shows that you really weren't paying attention.
Danny Carey, hands down:)!
I love how John Bonham would listen to Jimmy Page's guitar and he would fit the notes in I've been listening to led Zeppelin a lot this week just paying attention and you hear Jimmy Page talk with the guitar and then you hear bottom start swinging and his bass drum and then jonesy comes in with the bass each of them know how to talk to each other as they play and that made him such a kick-ass band that they could talk to each other with their instruments and they were great listeners
Bonzo was a legend but the stuff that Neil Peart played and wrote was insane. There's no need to compare them (they played two completely different types of music) but from a technical standpoint Neil Peart was definitely a cut above.
And from a musical standpoint, and an influential standpoint, Bonham was on another level
Danny Carey and Neil Peart. Not sure why they ask Lars with his horrific timing issues, how would he ever know who’s the best?
I agree that Lars isn’t anywhere near as good as he once was, but the man is an encyclopedia of musical knowledge when it comes to the history of rock music. Not to mention he has excellent taste, so yeah despite his limited vocabulary on the kit, he can definitely hold his own during a music discussion.
And he’s right on the money with Bonham being the best.
I pick the Octopus Carey too
Neil Peart wins.
as a life long Zeppelin fan...i agree with you ironically
Danny Carey of Tool... another great is Stephan Perkins of Jane's Addiction
There was a time when Stephen Perkins had the most recognizable drum sound in rock. Amazing.
Terry Bozzio, Simon Phillips, Vinnie Colaiuta, Bill Bruford, Chad Wackerman, Marco Minneman, etc. are all every bit as talented as Bonham and Peart. There are too many good drummers out there with different qualities to pick just one.
To me Neil Peart is the man who can make me cry via drumming .
Bonzo's groove is out of this world tho
Rock: Neal Peart
Overall: Buddy Rich
neil also played in a buddy rich tribute band.
Don’t know if Neil is the best, really what the hell do I know, but Neil is my favorite. Buddy Rich, great, but a prick. Listen to him berating his band on RUclips.
@@bradb3248 I thought it was the level of skill and talent being discussed, not the guy's personality.
@@TanMann23 poorly. Neil can't swing
Undeniable. Buddy Rich was from a different planet. And Keith Moon would drop in for a drink from time to time.
And, don't forget the Def Leppard drummer who re-learned to drum one handed after his accident. Just saying give him credit
they were both amazing. it just comes down to taste.
Danny Carey!
🐙🥁
100%
win
Couldn’t believe he wasn’t mentioned
How many Pneuma drum-cam reactions have you watched? Me: over 9000
They were both amazing in different ways! Both are my favs! ♥️
I love that Metallica is getting more involved in the show.
Sellouts tend to do that
Nick Mason, Mitch Mitchell, & Phil Collins are so underrated.
Collins was brilliant on Robert Plant's first album !
Collins especially. He was a beast of a drummer back when Genesis were actually good. He stopped focusing on his drumming and started focusing on his pop tendencies when the 80s rolled around though.
Danny Carey
Sean Kinney
Stewart Copeland
To name 3 more great drummers..
There is no one greatest drummer .... It's all just opinion...
Type in "Mike Magnini drum solo" and watch the first video at the top a drum solo over 20 years ago bet no one in the World can play that.
Yup. And really it's not even fair. He's the Michael Angelo, Barry Sanders and Michael Jordan of percussionists and percussionist is the proper title and in a league of his own. I dare anyone to watch and listen to Tool "Pneuma" drum cam and disagree. ;-)
Pete de Freitas is super underrated and had he not died so young people might recognize him more
@@bruun1974 I never get why so many people have such a hard-on for that Pneuma video. For Danny Carey, that video doesn't even show off all his talents. He's really not as great of a drummer as everyone says he is as well. Polyrhythms. Yes they're tricky, but that does not instantly make someone of the greatest drummers to ever live
Glad to see you mention Sean Kinney
no mention of Buddy Rich?
Top 10 rock drummers (in my opinion):
10. Dave Grohl
9. Phil Collins
8. Stewart Copeland
7. Bill Bruford
6. Mitch Mitchell
5. Danny Carey
4. Ginger baker
3. Keith Moon
2. Neil Peart
1. John Bonham
Lars could probably just spend his retirement years on a podcast answering questions about his and Metallica's life and it would be awesome...😀😀😀
Neil is probably more skilled, but it's all about the effectiveness of what they do in the context of the band or song. With tremendous respect for both, I would have to say they're equal. I tend to gravitate towards Bill Ward and Ian Paice for that era.
I recently watched a RUclips video of Sabbath in Paris in 1970 and based on that performance alone I think Ward deserves consideration.
Ive never understood the adoration for Bonham. But, i could say the same for rankings of any musicians. Its seems like people just look at the most popular bands, then decide who was more iconic. Seems like a silly game to me.
Bill Ward is a fucking boss
Bill ward is a monster
Always loved Bill Ward, deserves more credit in these types of debates
As a huge ACDC fan I'm glad he mentioned Phil Rudd
Neil Peart..... Period !
Where’s the love for Keith Moon??
Fun fact: Keith was responsible for the name, 'Led Zeppelin', indirectly.
Howard mentioned him
Who rocked it out!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Keith was amazing...his style was a little too busy and chaotic at times, but he never lost the plot no matter how crazy he got. That’s impressive.
And Ginger and Mitch. Now THAT'S iconic.
Mitch Mitchell of the JHE is my favorite. He made his jazz style work very well for rock.
Has to be Keith Moon for me. The Who couldn't always capture in the studio what he could do live (apart from live at Leeds obviously) His improvisation and ability was henomenal. Not to mention his showmanship and endless energy.
No one comes close to Moon in that regard.
Just listen to Live At Leeds and be blown away.
Yep, I don’t think peart fans know who moon is.
Neil all the way!!
The greatest rock drummers of all time are (in no particular order),
Ian Paice
Neil Peart
Cozy Powell
John Bonham
Keith Moon
Both are my heroes, and responsible for me getting into drumming as a kid. But, they are too different to be compared. John had the groove and feel. Neil had the technical abilities and precision. I love and miss them both!
This is the problem with deciding who is / was "the best" when there are so many different TYPES of drummers. The best schooled drummers would normally leave the conversation with "No one really surpasses Buddy Rich to this day." But he was a jazz guy, and that's a very different thing. When it comes to ROCK drummers, you still have very different guys. Bonzo had mastered this heavy, solid, DEEP in the groove style that very few have ever lived up to. Neil had stellar technical proficiency, and could tell a veritable story during a song solely w/ percussion instrumentation. That's an unparalleled capacity. He's one of my heroes, and I didn't even play drums. That said...I honestly still give it to Brill Bruford (Yes; King Crimson; toured w/ Genesis in '76, among others) for both his impeccable time sense, sophistication, and still managing a major power element at the same time. I'm glad someone did mention Ginger Baker (Cream), and the conversation can never not include Keith Moon. I also think Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Experience) has been wrongfully overlooked / forgotten, when he basically invented the same attack and heaviness that was Bonzo's bread and butter.
I say Bonham the GOAT but i saw Ian Paice live with Deep Purple and he blew my mind so he is #2 for me, also saw Cozy Powell and he is incredibly underrated!
Best drummer ever hands down: Buddy Rich
I would have to agree with John Bonham when he said, "The best drummer to come out of England is Barriemore Barlow (of Jethro Tull)."
Neil Peart is the greatest drummer that ever lived!
Neil Peart without a doubt! Not even close!! No other drummer made more of an impact on the songs, you listen to the songs to hear the drums!! Not that Rush music wasn't great in general! Oh yeah, Neil wrote all the songs :)
Neal Peart is the Professor of drumming.
My list is:
1. BILL WARD
2. GENE HOGLAN
3. PHIL TAYLOR
4. IGOR CAVALERA
5. DAVE LOMBARDO
U gotta add one more Danny Carey
Danny Carey is better then all combined.
No buddy Rich
BILL WARD FTW
Peart would’ve played anything that Bonham played, but the same can’t be said for Bonham. Peart all the way man
No he wouldn't. Drumming is not just about technique, otherwise Neil Peart would be a minnow compared to Buddy Rich, Tony Williams and many other jazz greats.
I'm shocked no one spoke of Buddy Rich with a beginners kit he could do some unbelievable shit
Buddy Rich
Alex Van Halen
Phil Rudd
Dave Lombardo
Bobby Jarzombek
Phillipe Boucher
Adrian Erlandson
Chris Slade
Nick Menza
Gar Samuelson (no matter how fucked up he was the man was spectacularly brilliant)
and perhaps Igor Cavalera would be in the list as well
I don’t know anything about drums but I like Neil Peart the best
Niko McBrain .
Although many fans wouldn't even pick him as the best Maiden drummer (including me)....that would be Clive Burr.
Yes!!!! Thank you Lars! For taking a moment to appreciate Phil Rudd (AC/DC) ....and Ian piece, (deep purple). However ,. The answer to the original question is. BUDDY RICH.
People keep saying how underrated Bill Ward is, but I never see a single person talks about Cozy Powell. He's such a power house.
NEIL ❤️ GOAT
In terms of who's the greatest artist definitely Neil Peart. He wrote a ton of songs for Rush. He composed his drums for every song nothing was random....he practiced like a man obsessed to obtain perfection so that every song every concert was a test of whether he could play flawlessly every time. He was like a solo violinist or pianist or opera singer. They all work towards perfection. That's why Neil was the Professor. Some might say that he was so focused that he lacked heart and soul and spontaneity. But as an artist who just happened to be a gifted no... genius drummer... you could argue that Neil was the best.
Music is art not a competition
the title should say "Who is the greatest rock drummer of all time"... the greatest drummers are probably gospel and jazz drummers, and african/brazilian/cuban drumming
Shut up
Hey, look, an intelligent comment.
Aidean Well said. I was thinking the same exactly. Buddy rich, and many others
Jimmy Chamberlin is up there
No
I have to say...I would put Neil Peart there...but having seen Carl Palmer live...of Emerson Lake and Palmer...hes amazing as hell also. Truly talented.
Cozy Powell was amazing also. Paice and Bonzo are my faves, but!
You gotta say "rock" drummer, mistake to leave out all the jazz guys.
Howard doesn't know wtf he's talking about...just guessing like the rest of us!!
not even close. name one jazz drummer thats better.
no disrespect to jazz but i dont think a single person on that show gives a flying fuck about it. Howards always been into rock/metal stuff but no doubt those jazz drummers are something special to listen to
Good point.
Simon Phillips, Dennis Chambers, Jeff Porcaro, Omar Hakim, and the greatest Tony Williams. All could dance circles around both these cats.
Peart also had a lot of song credits. SF nerd.
Steve Gadd? Tony Williams? Buddy Rich? Omar Hakim? Dennis Chambers? Vinne Colaiuta? There is no number 1 drummer. There are many greats that all made their contributions to music while influencing countless musicians.
There are lot of drummers who are technically better than Bonham.. but Bonham is an icon. His grooves are very popular, infact it inspired lot of drummers during that time. He is one iconic drummer!
I A N P A I C E
Unpopular opinion but Carter Beauford from DMB is absolutely incredible.
Ian Paice.
Absolutely.
both great drummers...but so different in style...I have to go with Neil. More versatile, more technical, more creative. The one thing Bonham has is that smooth driving style...but overall...gotta go with Neil
Greatest all time? Buddy Rich. Even Neil Peart said so. But Neil Peart, John Bonham, Ginger Baker, Ian Paice....all great amazing drummers in their own right.
NEIL PEART IS THE BEST
Neil is the best from my home town.
Neil Peart was a Awsome Drummer.
Neil Peart! Without a doubt!
Nobody calls him John bonzo Bonham
Neil first then John.
John is not even second, and wjo is Neil? In america rush are more famous. They are good but not so famous in europe.
Happy with Ian Paice, not sure about Philly Rudd. Rudd is awesome though.
Neil Peart The Drum Solo of Life !