Lost Zelda Games - DidYouKnowGaming Ft. Remix
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In this video, Did You Know Gaming takes a look at some facts, secrets and history surrounding The Legend of Zelda games that never saw the light of day, including Wind Waker on GBA, Wind Waker 2, a Majora's Mask styled Twilight Princess sequel, and more.
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Imagine you're trying the make the coolest sequel possible to a game you enjoyed working on, and then your boss comes downstairs and is like
no.
c r o s s b o w s.
At least we got Linkle's moveset out of it.
Shiggy Miyadiggy's done it again.
That's Miyamoto for you
i know twilight princess was a cash grab for american audiences, but that was a passionless sellout man 😕
More like w i i z a p p e r
Okamoto: Let me make a Zelda game
Miyamoto: No.
Okamoto: Ok, i'll make a rip off then
Miyamoto: *panics*
Okamoto: Makes TWO Zelda games at the end and almost a THIRD
The madman.
When you love Zelda so much, you threatens its creator to let you work on it
@@ChauNyan The only way to get stuff done with Miyamoto is threats.
And they are my favourites! Bless
It's almost like throwing the proposed Triforce trilogy at him was punishment for threatening him. "Oh, you want to make Zelda games THAT badly, do you?". And then of course Miyamoto had to swoop in and save them when they couldn't get it done.
Satoru Iwata basically did the same thing to pressure Sakurai into making Brawl. I suppose this is just how Nintendo works lol
After watching this video, I feel lucky that we even got Majora's Mask. They could've cancelled that game so easily if they wanted to.
Honestly dude
Nintendo clearly doesn't care at all.
@@yohanan713 they care
@@yohanan713 Please shut up.
AzureRoxe look man they don’t care. You can pretend they do but look at how half assed Mario 3D all stars was
Something inside me breaks everytime I hear the cancelled Last Shiekah game by Retro Studios
Yes! Me too. That game sounded seriously awesome.
Yeah, that art is beautiful! I getting flashes of Prince Mononoke from those monsters design. That Wolf-boar was telling me so...
The worst part is that we will never see it, sure Retro could try to revive it but even if they bring back all the people that were working at Retro at the time it would still be highly unlikely that the game would look anything like it would have back then (assuming it isn't filled with a lot of what I like to call "westernisms" that have been plauging western games this gen).
@@Phantom1op either it comes back as part of the Zelda series or even reimagined to be it's own thing, which could be possible. But yeah it seems like it's very unlikely at this point in time.
Sounds like it could have been a better origin story than Skyfucked Sword.
So the director of the Oracle games , who at the time worked at Capcom, ended up directing Breath of the Wild? That's nutty.
And before that he directed the original Four Swords, The Minish Cap and Skyward Sword.
@@pvmeza4277 some dam good Zelda games too before Breath of the Wild, impressive. 😀
Just so you know I believe the next Director after Aonuma could have been Yoshiaki Koizumi, he has been working for the Zelda franchise since A Link to the Past and he Co-directed the original Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask but his ideas about Zelda are in conflict with Aonuma’s who was at the time the person Nintendo chose to be Miyamoto’s successor, and that’s why the Director of Oracle of Seasons has that position now. Personally I would have preferred if Koizumi had been Miyamoto’s successor. He has directed great games besides Zelda: Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy, also he did Link’s Model for Soul Calibur 2. He created the original design of Ocarina of Time Link, so we can say that Soul Calibur 2 Link is how OOT Link is suppose to be.
Man, you’ve got to have some SERIOUS stones to threaten Shigeru Miyamoto.
@@Mario87456 Bully? Yes.
Asshole? Also yes.
Wish for his death? No. He's needs to be reigned in, controlled, not destroyed.
@@AkaiAzul Well I am afraid that will never happen because these days it’s pretty much required that you suck up to him.
@@Mario87456 so... you hate him because he's a dumb boomer who makes bad design decisions.
*laughs in every successful decision he's made*
@@SpinyPuffs Well there was a time he once made better decisions but now not so much I respect him for who he once was but not for who he is now and unfortunately very few stand up to him these days with VERY FEW exceptions like the director of Super Mario Odyssey.
Having Capcom behind you helps.
Imagine being the focus group that were tricked into inadvertently canceling Twilight Princess 2 for some dumb Wii zapper game.
I didn't even know that game had that much content. played it a few times, and dropped it. (The wiimote was never very good for precision.)
Probably the same group of idiots that said they didn’t care about the story in Super Paper Mario
@@Teneegaming I don't have any problems with the game, but it's obviously a game focused on a gimmick that everyone should've known would be forgotten after that generation was over. I think if Miyamoto had any foresight or self awareness, he would of known making a sequel to Twilight Princess would have been better idea, and it could of been something more focused and interesting like Majora's Mask.
@@emilys1418 I think the only person who said that was Miyamoto. You can't really blame the focus group though, they were just sat in front of a game and asked if they had fun or not.
@@Two-HeadedBoy i think Miyamoto knew exactly what he was doing. He managed to get good sales off a low budget game. Thats a success no matter how you look at it. People forget that Nintendo is a business, and sometimes creating a worse product for more money is a part of being a business.
I really wish I could see what they would have created for Twilight Princess 2.
midna’s character arc in twilight princess 2 is her slowly coming to terms with the fact that she wants to turn back into a shortstack again & denying the shame & social stigma towards those desires
they'll probably implement characters and designs into future games
@@AuntBibby If I was writing it, I'd make it so that Link touches the triforce at the very begining of the game in the hopes of stopping Ganondorf from reincarnating, only to for it to end up teleporting him to Midna's throne room as an immortal wolf with no way to get back. I'd make Midna the playble character and have her and Wolf Link fight some new villian in the Twilight World. I got this stupid idea from the Wolf Link Amiibo in botw. It says Wolf Link returned to his own world whenever he leaves, so this rediculous idea would make that cannon. Assuming Midna is immortal, then Link would be stuck as Midna's pet wolf forever. It's so messed up that it's halarious. I always wanted to see someone touch the triforce and be granted some horribly warped version of some subconscious wish they weren't intending to have fufilled. He likely wants to see Midna again, and technically that scenario would result in him getting his wish.
@@malic_zarith if i was writing Twilight Princess 2 id take advantage of the fact that i was writing it and id make link get murdered by that bird prince from windwaker in the first 10 minutes of the game and then for the rest of the 30 hour campaign you play as Tingle, who finally started on hormone potion therapy and is using she/her pronouns now, and she dualwields the megaton hammer doing devil may cry combos wallbouncing moblins into super combos and shit, going from town to town mapping out routes and dungeons and selling the maps to cursed villagers who beg you to dispel the darkness spreading across the land and you're like "nah", and you have to use the touch screen to draw the maps yourself, and the online capability is used to have rival Tinglettes battle for map-selling territory like rival drug gangs and if you win then your opponents have to see your previously-sold maps showing up here and there sporadically in their gameworld permanently until they delete their gamesave because u won so you own their economic territory fair & square
@@AuntBibby lmao
"And that's the point - Not to make something sell, something very popular, but to love something, and make something that we creators can love. It's the very core feeling we should have in making games." - Miyamoto 1999; 9 years before he would make Link's Crossbow Training over a Twilight Princess sequel.
Can't believe we got Links Crossbow Training instead of Twilight Princess 2.
Love Miaymoto & all but he's always getting in the way of expanding series with great story & action.
Jesse Jay
Miyamoto is an actively harmful restraint these days. Any vision that he feels is even slightly differential from his babies (IPs) is anathema and must be axed. I don't like the expression, but he has because the boomer of Nintendo.
@@jessejay1104 Please shut up
@@connorpickens7523 Oh look! And idiot!
@@atre5763 hi
I appreciate Miyamoto's dedication to following a single concept to it's core. But I really wish he wasn't so restrictive on adding to them. An interesting story won't kill how fun a game is
Yeah & in-fact in most cases an interesting story will only heighten the fun.
Miyamotos been with Nintendo for so long, being hired during the days Nintendo was a toy manufacturer. So the idea of substance over style remains, and the toy maker mentality is prominent. Miyamoto is notoriously famous for eschewing story for gameplay, its the toy maker mindset.
but he is over 68 ! he got still to get better you are younger for sure is too bad these are such background details for others
@@jaimeiswithnintendoswitch3766 what
If he wasn't like that he or Nintendo may not wouldn't be where they are now. I think people emotional focus on the times where the table flipping went badly and not when it worked. Double edge sword I really think if you go back in time and change those development issues Nintendo might not be around.
"It's not like we could make an adult toon link"
y-
you DID
he's a statue in Hyrule castle.
*Literally just use that.*
@JalaΓious yeah, it is weird that they had entire concept art of Toon Link aging naturally over the course of Wind Waker and never thought to reuse it for the Wind Waker sequel.
xD
Isn't Breath of the Wild Link adult toon Link though?
@@EskChan19 no
@@ShinziiArt yes
The fact that a twilight princess sequel existed and was scrapped kills me a little inside... I hope they explore the idea again at some point. The twilight princess canon has a lot of potential.
Well with BoTW2 it is kinda confirmed that it is a sequel to Twilight Princess...
@@renegadedjinn5325 Doesn't it take place in a completely different universe?
No
@@yohanan713 no
@@renegadedjinn5325 so was regular BOTW
You're actually telling me there was going to be a Twilight Princess 2 and they canned that. The team has some incredible ideas, like the one following the "Link is defeated" timeline and using the last surviving Sheikah, with a much darker game similar to Majora's Mask, and they completely canceled it?
What the heck Miyamoto?
Miyamoto tends to do this
He hinders the Mario series too
@@TokoSauce Miyamoto is peek Japanese boomer.
@@TokoSauce it sucks that some of Mario games never got their own sequel like: Super Mario World, Mario 64, Mario RPG Snes etc. I mean how did Nintendo brought Starfox 2 wich was cancelled like 20 years ago? It doesn't make sense
@@besihodja393 well mario rpg 2 was planned but since square Enix wanted to support the playstation and it just didn't happen
I look forward to the day Miyamoto kicks the bucket.
That Sheikah game by retro makes me legitimately sad, that would have been the best thing ever.
You know... It's kind of a shame that the "clock kids" were never a thing in the end. I could see them working as something from a more Victorian, steampunk styled Zelda title, most likely set after Spirit Tracks.
@prickly pear true it could comeback by tying into the events of BotW if Nintendo felt committed to actually make it a reality.
@@bobafett4265 Well... I guess we'll have to see. Could even have it be set so many years after the events of BotW, to where the likes of Hyrule was at the dawn of its own industrial revolution.
Could even have an interesting way to approach fire-arms in a Zelda game, with the bows being more puzzle related, whilst firearms could be more combat orientated, and useful for breaking certain things that bullets would be more suited for, than arrows.
Possibly even have multiple threats with their own agendas, that you could choose who to prioritize first, whether it be the greedy, imperialistic beurecrats, that'd probably find their way into Hyrule's court, and are looking for any means to line their own pockets, an occult group, with some twisted ideas of essentially "bringing the balance back" in a way they favoured, and also a third group, that pretty much profitted off of the ensuing chaos, almost like a war profiteerer of sorts.
Valley of the Flood?
I feel like it'll never happen, but my dream Zelda game is a remake of the Oracle games as a single title where you choose which land you go to first, Holodrum or Labrynna, and then play through them sequentially instead of using the password system. Once you beat them both, you'd unlock what would have been Seed of Courage and can go back to the other two to get whatever other content you would have from a linked game. Ostensibly Maple was supposed to have a bigger role in Seed of Courage, so I think it'd be neat if it turned out that "Oracle of Secrets" Farore wasn't actually the real Farore, she was just using the name, and Maple was the real third Oracle. I've heard some people suggest that the third Oracle would be Oracle of Light or Oracle of Hours, using a day/night cycle for puzzle solving in line with Seasons and Ages both being larger scale units of time. As Ages is more puzzle focused and Seasons is more action focused, I would ideally want Seed of Courage to be exploration focused, as that's the other major element of Zelda not yet represented and it fits best with the theme of Courage.
I seriously hope they remake them in the style of the new link's awakening.
It would be soooo perfect
Meanwhile...
"Gee, it sure is boring around here."
I just wonder what ganon is up to
Your majesty, ganon and his minions have SEIZED the island of Korodai.
Hmmmm,How can we help?
It is written- only Link can defeat Ganon!
Great! I'll grab my stuff!
I was reading some old Nintendo Powers a little bit ago, and during the report for E3 around 2000 I saw a mention of the "Triforce Trilogy". I figured this either became the Oracle games or was scrapped completely. Nice to hear how it really went down.
That dark timeline game actually looks amazing
So Miyamota killed A Twilight sequel. Nintendo loves to be their own worst enemy..
I personally can't stand Miyamoto. He does more harm than good.
Lets cancel miyamoto
@@Lyric061791 Yea guess being one of the most influential luminaries of all time is pretty shitty
@@Lyric061791 Yeah more harm than good like creating Mario Zelda Donkey Kong Starfox and Pikmin.
I respect the guy for creating such great franchises, but ngl I just can’t agree with a lot of the decisions he's made over the years.
the canceled wii zelda game that was in the bad timeline sounds so fucking cool, i really wish we got that.
We got something else, skyward sword.
I am among the few who got to experience the full Four Swords Adventure Experience, it is a blast but it takes coordination to get 4 gbas with cables
Yeah, i played through both when I was younger. Good games.
Second i saw the DS back in the day, I thought there was no way it wasnt going to get a port of FSA (or a sequel), the system seemed designed specifically for it. So sad it never happened.
I wasn't one of the lucky ones. My dad and I wanted to play together but we only had a single gba, so we weren't able to do it.
@@OtherScott64 I remember being so excited for Triforce Heroes on 3DS because it looked like a third Four Swords game. I’m still disappointed to this day
I am literally player 1 color with envy
My dream
DAMN I did not realize four swords anniversary edition was only available to download for such a short time!!! I transferred from my old DSi, but it’s on my 3DS still today! I didn’t play it very much but it was actually my very first introduction to Zelda before watching let’s plays of the N64 games in high school.
@Lyra Heartfold I lost my original 3ds with that downloaded
@Lyra Heartfold 😭😭
@@pickedceasar1216 Softmod your 3DS and install it there. It was free anyway.
@Lyra Heartfold can confirm was avalible on both systems.
I happened to have a Dsi and 3DS and made certain that my brother's 3Ds also got the game.
My brother sold his 3DS for $300 because that game was on it.
@@seriouskano2 stank you, but how do?
3:38 This isn't entirely true - many of TP's sales were primarily because it was a launch title for the Wii, which was selling like crazy. Many non-Zelda fans bought the game primarily because of this. I love TP (see my profile pic), not complaining or anything, just a little thing I wanted to add :)
@A Google User False, even months after the release it kept selling copies.
It has some glaring negative sides but the content alone made people buy Twilight Princess and thats why it sold so well.
Under your logic games like Super Mario 64 or Super Mario World sold many copies only because it was a launch title and not because the content of those games were entertaining so people were still buying it.
@@pvmeza4277 True. Being a launch title doesn't guarantee sales. Example: Pikmin
It also doesn't even guarantee it will be remembered as a system exclusive. Examples: Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, Ryse Son of Rome
@@pvmeza4277 It was a launch title on one of the best selling system AND it got released on 2 different systems
@@HellYeahTenguFormat See Andre Coraza reply, being a launch title doesn't guarantee its going to be a big seller.
People bought the game because they liked the content and spreaded the word about it and thats why it sold well.
I see u everywhere
2:19 I mean... it's not like Wind Waker did super well in Japan considering only about 4 million GameCubes were sold there.
That's kinda why the US and Europe (but especially the US) sometimes have a disproportionate impact on the direction Mario and Zelda take. Home consoles, traditionally, haven't sold as well in Japan as they have overseas; either in gross or even when adjusting to the different population sizes.
@@elitefencer777 Yes, it should be noted the Gamecube was especially a low point, the Wii for instance did triple what the Gamecube did. 12 million in Japan was still a lot less than it could have been given that Famicom did 20 million in Japan, yet Wii outsold NES massively in the West.
I was more saying, the way the video phrased it, it almost seemed like they were saying per install base Zelda is more popular in the US, or in general it is a less popular series, which may be true, but it also had a lot to do with the fact that there were just far more people in the West to buy it in the first place.
Of course with Switch selling the way it is in Japan, it becomes a bit more clear Zelda and 3D Mario are more popular in the West, given the install bases are a lot closer. Even if BoTW is the best selling Zelda game in Japan of all time.
It's still sad to me Wind Waker didn't get much love back when it came out because of it's look. One of the best Zelda games ever imo.
Best looking game of that generation
Agreed; as a game it's only real misstep is the Triforce pieces portion of the game, everything else is pretty solid. The style of exploration is different from its predecessors, but I wouldn't describe that as a negative per se.
@@ireplytoeverything3122 not the BEST looking but it is beautiful
I remember being mad it at because at the time, all anyone cared about was how good games looked on the xbox and the ps2. And everyone I knew laughed at the gamecube talking about how weak it was..and then we got windwaker..
@JalaΓious n0, majoras mask is better
Zelda games cancelled? Was Miyamoto involved?
Yeah it's gonna get cancelled.
@@DemonKyle Bro I can't tell if I love or hate him. Cancelling twilight princess 2 . my god
@@yohanan713 Miyamoto deserves all the respect and credit but he's responsible for so much bullshit it boggles the mind, I'm so glad Aounuma is in charge of Zelda now but even that is at risk if Miyamoto in still around, and don't even get me started on Mario
@@Arcademan09 mario all stars was pathetic. I was so desperate to be able to play galaxy 2. But they simply don't care
@@yohanan713 If TP 2 was a thing, you wouldn’t have gotten SS.
@@GmanSir I liked Skyward Sword but I love Twilight Princess
4:55 i love miyamoto and appreciate all hes done for gaming but its kind of annoying when he imposes silly restrictions like this on his development teams :/
It's too bad they scrapped "The Legend of Zelda: Modern Warfare."
The fact they almost created a Zelda FPS with multiplayer kind of blows my mind but I'm also kinda glad they scrapped that idea and instead made a new IP for Nintendo to have a shooter (Splatoon).
I'd love to see a Zelda game with guns and a Mature rating. Nintendo keeps forgetting that the people who grew up on the NES, Super NES, Game Boy, and Nintendo 64 games are now adults.
Yes and the add for it would be on Mario City Stimulator
I see what you did there with that JonTron reference. XD
@@DarDarBinks1986 bro Zelda with guns is a horrible idea. It ruins the entire story. Like why would Link try to stab Ganon when he can just blow him up? Its a stupid idea.
_Legend of Zelda: The Last Sheika_ sounds absolutely badass.
"In the end, a third entry in the Four Swords series was never produced."
**confused Minish Cap noises**
We both know he meant a third game with the Four Swords gameplay.
And yeah, Triforce Heroes doesn't count too.
@@pvmeza4277 He also didn't mention a game where the Four Sword itself was still involved as a key plot point, since you wanna be a smartass about a joke that took no effort to make on my part.
You can see a lot of Minish Cap assets in that Four Swords DS remake too
"Did you know?"
Me, as a huge Zelda nerd: "Yes"
Did you know? Link has 3 hearts at the beginning of most Zelda games. Octopuses have 3 hearts. Link is an octopus.
@@ireplytoeverything3122 Not Skyward Sword
@@ireplytoeverything3122 edit your comment
@@megami9561 they said "most" zelda games not all
Edit: nvm I just saw the edit >.>
They forgot to talk about the recent Gigaleaks where a sprite sheet of a Link in sideway perspective appears
Of all the Zelda games, the Zelda II is the first one that comes to mind for one that NEEDS a remake. Hopefully that day will eventually come...
I prefer not looking like Metroid 2 Return of Samus on the 3DS because that looked ugly.
For me, I think of the Oracle duology, because they're very hard to legally access and very little people in the community have played them, so they get little attention. Zelda II is at least playable on Nintendo Switch, but I do agree that it could very much use a remake, what with its infamous gameplay.
@@TokoSauce Zelda 2 and the Oracle games are indeed the games that need a remake the most. The Oracle games because they're the other GB Zelda games so they can re-use the Link's Awakening Remake engine, the games are hard to play these days without emulating, (though they're avalible on the 3DS eShop) and not many Zelda fans have played it. Zelda 2 needs a remake because it's the Zelda game with the most potential, has incredibly unique gameplay that could have been super fun if your sword was just a bit longer, and has the fairy spell. 😍😍😍🍆💦
@@dragtogo2735 I liked it, myself. But I also think if Inti Creates is the one in charge of the Zelda 2 remake, they would understand what it takes to do the game justice.
@@dragtogo2735 it looked great and was fun to play. The only annoying part was the giant robot chase scene and boss battle.
All I can say is Miyamoto is such an odd decision maker. He either makes fantastic ideas or super bizarre “what? Why?” ones, rarely any in between
TWilight princess 2 really needed to be a thing , Miyamota needs to chilll.. Could have had both
He's really the worst thing about modern nintendo.
@@Sedition- No
Please no.
I always wanted a sequel to TP it truly hurts me how close we were in actually getting one
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Thank you so much for not only reaching out to Inti Creates, but also Nintendo, in the hopes that the two can communicate and make a Zelda 2 remake! You guys are awesome!
8:26 RIP Robin Williams
If someone I looked up to like that acknowledge me and praised my hard work I'd cry too, seeing that man cry made me feel so happy for him that I wanted to cry too, I'm glad he got acknowledged by Shigaru
All of the toon link games were the gateway to zelda for me. Started with wind waker, couldn't put down phantom hour glass, explored every railroad track in spirit tracks. As a kid those games were life changing and I'm so happy they exist alongside all of the other amazing zelda games
4:14 ugh I Know what a let down. At the end of Twilight Princess you could actually see Link leaving Ordon Village and 2007 me was so psyched for a potential sequel :(
Midna's "see you later" hurts even more now
Midna: "see you later..."
Link in Ordon 15 years later: :(
I know people are upset they didn't get Twilight Princess 2 but I'm just shocked how Link's Crossbow Training sold more than Wind Waker.
i would love remakes of the oracle games. those were my favorites.
Some of my favorite Zelda experiences were on Four Sword Adventure for GameCube. If you can ever hunt down the game, the GBAs, and the link cables, you're in for an amazing experience.
I love how Windwaker was panned when it first came out, then when they made an HD port for a newer system, it was practically Game Of The Year.
I unironically love Zelda II. I would be so hyped for a remake and hope it does get made one day.
Did you even ask the guy for permission to send the email?
The email was the interview, which he wants us to publish in full -- which we''ll do at a later date. He wants it made public and read by as many people as possible, so I assumed he's not trying to keep it a secret from Nintendo.
The fact that we could have gotten a twilight princess sequel but got a small forgetful game broke my heart
Lol.
I love all the Zelda content you guys make :D
As a huge fan of the Oracle games, that Capcom director who threatened Miyamoto was a badass, although slightly diminished since he needed him to personally come save the project.
Sad we never got the 3rd entry, or even much concept material for it.
The more I watch this series the more I realize how much Miyamoto takes over and does something seemingly stupid, yet somehow, it always works.
its almost like he knows what he is doing, even if it doesn't seem wise to everyone else though Nintendo is making bank
I'm not sure how you could call Link's Crossbow Training "working." It got a 68% on Metacritic and it's pretty much universally considered mediocre at best.
Look up the story behind Dinosaur Planet and how it was inexplicably turned into a Star Fox game. Miyamoto's decision there did not do that game any favors. It's too bad too, because there are hints of how great that game could have been still in there.
@@misterbadguy7325 And it sold like hotcakes. Miyamoto takes the W.
7:05-7:12 that Toon Link animation style is really cute! My favorite part is seeing the Links' facial expressions :3
I didn't realize Four Swords Anniversary Edition was so uncommon, that was literally the only Zelda game I got to play for the longest time because it was a free download on the DSi eshop. It's still on my DSi, too. And I still have never beaten it, over a decade later.
"I threatened him [Miyamoto]"
~Yoshiki Okamoto 1999
We all know that after the first Hyrule Warriors gave us Linkle and her crossbows, a sequel to Crossbow training kinda should have her in it...
Does it shock anyone else to hear that the idea of a "Dark Timeline" as in a failed timeline of the end of OOT, not only existed in 2009 but existed enough that even Retro knew about it? Just how far back did the timeline fully get ironed out
I love Zelda II so much. Thanks youuuu!
It's funny that they talk about Zelda and the four Swords, I end up getting a copy of the game for GameCube, Gameboy Advance, cables, guide and a shirt from Nintendo's magazine at that time😅
However I only still have the shirt the other stuff was stolen😢
You know, as a big Zelda fan, I used to idolize Miyamoto when I was younger but as I've grown up, I kept hearing more and more and more about the man and good god... Of course, I've little knowledge of the inner workings of video game development over at Nintendo but it really does sound like Miyamoto stifles a lot of creativity. Paper Mario is another series I very much enjoyed (first three games, at least) and I also heard that the uh... direction it took, was at least partly due to Shiggy here.
Same here. It's heartbreaking.
What do you mean? Paper Mario is only two games.
Just finished my collection of every Zelda game except Zelda's Adventure CDI this month, Nice seeing about other games that weren't released.
This is a great video about Zelda history. I appreciate it
They should make a character in Zelda series that is an homage to Robin Williams for his love for this game series.
They did haha hes in breath of the wild as an npc
@@kapeklaw4799 Nice. As I got older I stopped playing video games, but I like to read and watch video game news.
What's his NPC like?
@@squeegie So you want them to make a character, but you admit you don't even play videogames anymore :/
@@AzureRoxe I don't see a problem in wanting a beloved game series from my childhood to add a character based on one of my favorite actors who also shared the love for the same series. Do I need to play it to understand the mutual respect?
I am married with 3 children, I wish I could have more time to sit down and enjoy a long game session like I used to in the past, but until my kids are a little older I would like to spend more time with them instead of playing games. Is that wrong?
8:26 Robin Williams playing Legend Of Zelda with his daughter Zelda..
I still have the Anniversary edition from way back when on my N3DSXL. A lovely game.
And on this episode of "Miyamoto screws up another cool idea because Miyamoto has the power to say no".
The Nintendo Switch is the best platform to revive the Four Swords sub series
It's hilarious that people judged Wind Waker as kiddy because it was cel-shaded, considering that other than BotW, it had the most darkest world/story. It's a post-apocalyptic world where countless people literally drowned.
Ohey, wasn't expecting that feature there. Oracle duo is still one of my top favorite zeldas.
That Retro Zelda concept art looks amazing
I got/still have the four swords anniversary edition on my ds and my brothers and I played the shit out of it. I absolutely loved the four swords games and I'm sad it never got more love. We actually replayed the gamecube version a couple of years ago after finding our old sp's and it was just as fun as I remembered it.
As a huge Zelda fan, it does feel like a punch in the gut to hear about all these games that could have been, but I know that bits and pieces of these canceled projects live on in some form.
As far as Twilight Princess 2 goes, I do believe that something like that eventually became Skyward Sword in terms of the mechanics that may have been used for it. I still think it would be really cool to have a direct sequel in that world.
agreed. I honestly want a game with that art style and grandiose music. Breath of the wild is great but twilight princess had a different atmosphere that was just as enjoyable
@@firesnakex8 don’t worry, we will get a sequel to twilight princess, if not spiritual successor. If a Link to the Past can get a sequel almost 20 years after its release, then anything is possible.
Learned a lot!
Getting Dr Lava on board made this channel worth watching again.
Man, I'd really like a victorian era Legend of Zelda with muskets
“It’s dangerous to go alone! Take-“
BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!
“Way ahead of you, old man”
I actually ended up being one of the lucky zelda fans to get the four swords anniversary edition on my nintendo 3ds, currently have it sitting on my 2ds xl, been passing it from ds to ds in hopes I find someone else who had it!
great info in this one
Awesome video!
You know how bad OoT graphics have aged when you hear that OoT looked more realistic than WW graphics, WW it's more cartoony but has aged really well imo
So are we saving Marin from being trapped as a seagull forever or is the "real" ending the one where she dies?
Marin doesn't even exist. She's just a figment of the Ocean King's dream. That's the whole tragety of it. In the no-death ending, Marin is reincarnated as a seagull, but that's actually what she WANTED, as stated in her sidequest. It's basically her dream to be a seagull, though I would rather like to see Marin become a mermaid. 😏
@@krimsonkatt Dreams don't become seagull! That make it seem like it was MORE than "just" a dream and that they did exist because the wind fish (not the ocean king that's phantom hourglass you messed that up.) has magic sentient super dreams.
@@tattertot8259 I forgot the name of the wind fish and the Ocean King and the Wind Fish are the same anyways so it doesn't matter. (Aren't they brothers or something?)
@@tattertot8259 The Wind Fish used it's god powers to take Marin's imaginary counciousness from the dream and place it in the body of a seagull. Marin wasn't real, but Marin was remembered by the Wind Fish and Link, so her counciousness was able to be recovered from Link's memories of her. Koholit Island wasn't a real place. It was all imaginary. The Hyrule Historia, Hyrule Encyclopedia, original GB game, GBC re-release, and NS remake all state this.
I remember seeing one point and time some concept art from Nintendo on a game that took place before Wind Waker and the Great Flood and was going to be more realistic looking. Never realized how many times Devs tried to get real experimental with Zelda. Hoping some of these could one day return. Especially the Twilight Princess sequel
The zoom in on the face and him saying did you know at the beginning made me lose it XD
Best franchise ever
Wasn't there a Zelda 2 SNES sprite sheet revealed from the giga nintendo leak?
It was.
@@krimsonkatt surprised they didn't talk about it
Wow... I'm surprised to learn so much. So many interesting concepts. They could always return to them!
wow this was uploaded on my birthday nice
Who's here after they deleted the pacman video endorsing Billy Cheater?
How does that even link to the topic of this video?
"Quit worrying about the main series, do the crossbow thing!"
"Okay, how about a Crossbow Training 2?"
"Quit worrying about the crossbow thing, work on the main series!"
If I knew somebody acted like that, they would be an easy "oops" at a busy intersection crossing.
Are you... threatening Miyamoto?
A) Please don't joke about killing a legend.
B) If you keep that up, he might put you in charge of creating the next couple of Zelda games.
Isn't that essentially what happened to Gunpei Yokoi?
Man you back tracked that hard. arn't you afraid of getting sued?
I was lucky enough to download the Four Swords anniversary addition for 3DS (though the console it's on has unfortunately been misplaced). The multiplayer is actually a LOT fun, especially with all four people, and it's a legitimate shame that it's unobtainable now. It really would be the ideal game to port over/remake, with how the Switch emphasizes connectivity and portability.
"As well as the guy who cried ..."
"ONLY half as many copies as Ocarina of Time"" :/
That windwaker 2 proto looked nice!
I like coming to this channel when I am high from time to time
Wow. They really took down the Pac-Man video with Billy Mitchel after it got that much hate. They should have just known not to even upload that shit in the first place.
"We emailed nintendo to let another studio remake zelda 2."
I remember getting Forswords anniversary and still have it. I never beat it but I had endless fun
holy hell we missed out on whatever was going to come of the concept art at 9:19. I'm not even a zelda fanboi, but that looked epic