Could you SURVIVE in Ocarina of Time?
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- Опубликовано: 16 апр 2024
- Do you think YOU could survive in Ocarina of Time? To be honest, I don't think you got it in you. What would you do if you came across a Stalchild in Hyrule Field at night? You'd probably give up on the spot. Me though? I'm built different. I would easily parry his attack, dash behind him, and slice him into 38 pieces with my katana before his bony brain could even comprehend what was happening. And all his skeletal friends would surely tremble in fear before my awesome display of might. Then word would spread amongst Ganondorf's forces that I am not a force to be trifled with.
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Intro - Gerudo Valley (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
00:43 - Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
01:22 - Kokiri Forest (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
02:00 - Hyrule Field Main Theme (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
05:13 - Zora's Domain (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
09:14 - Ganondorf's Theme (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
12:24 - Water Temple (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
15:41 - Kakariko Village (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
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Surviving Ocarina of Time for 3 days: 😃
Surviving Majoras Mask for 3 days: 💀
Oh god most certainly 😨
That one pretty much forces you to go on the main quest yourself, huh? Unless you want to live for only three days or go completely bonkers just resetting the world every three days.
@@nathansmiddy732 I mean, if you get the ocarina, and you still remember the songs, you can play them all right away, right?
@@buttsbrown2442 that implies that you know how to play an ocarina.
@@jamalshelton5746 Aw, it's just a bottle with some holes in it, and you got three days to figure it out, how hard could it be? (Don't answer that.)
Let’s not forget though that pretty much every single body of water in Hyrule gets filtered through the Zora kings butt crack.
Protein?
Flavour.
There's a reason they need the well.
his ass is clean. yours would be too if you flushed river amounts of water. but instead you have a disgusting inadequate ass compared to the kings
Only the purest water for Hyrule
Every moment you spend surviving, Ganondorf only grows more suavemente.
Awesome reference 😂
Oh no... his power waxes while mine wanes 😭
Easy solution. Join the Gerudo. Join the suavemente dance party as a backup dancer.
@@rheokalyke367unless you’re a male. They’re a female society of WARRIORS if i remember correctly. So any males that try and join are probably not going to be in functional order for much longer. H**ny jokes aside, they didnt react well to Link’s trespassing in BotW, and i dont think they react well to male interlopers in various other games. Its safe to say male presence is not needed or wanted in their society. So “joining the Gerudo” is effectively a very selective solution. Sure you could probably barter or something with them. But i highly doubt their tolerance for anyone who isn’t biologically female or possibly an extremely difficult to pinpoint gender is going to last particularly long.
The Dale Zelda Dale! dance should do the trick
"You blink and you find yourself in Link's house"
Wheelchair users: "Guess I'll die."
Maybe Accessibility would be an interesting extra category or consideration on traversability
@@TangoStar I would love that, personally. A little research on disability and mobility would be totally unique and really set this series apart.
There are very few places both in fiction and in the real world where a cripple could survive on his own. Being "differently abled" would just mean "dying" in almost every situation.
@@gurriato Well, if you saw how DnD is today it is something similar, to be more inclusive, people with disabilities they have access to a magical combat chair that can fly and allows them to be super agile, plus it never breaks and things like that. It doesn't make any sense, anyone who has healthy feet should also use it if it's so good. In worlds of fantasy and fiction where magic exists, those types of disabilities don't make sense.
@@gurriato
Damn if only there was some way for multiple organisms to work together so that one can cover the weaknesses of another...
Unless something else kills you first disability is something that inevitably happens as one gets old and I don't know of any civilisation ever that didn't at least try to take care of its elderly.
For the Triforce bit, that's essentially what happens in Wind Waker- there is no Legendary Hero to reincarnate, so the Triforce of Courage just splits up and has to be found again. It's definitely a thing to think on.
GREAT point, thank you. I tried to shut out the triforce gathering in that game out of my mind, so I'm glad someone reminded me.
A scavenger hunt like that would probably have more eager participants than just Link since the world isn't flooded.
@@PretzelYT Same tbh lol It's why I never finished it as a kid- I did it all in one go and forgot to save. XnX
You just need to wear green triforce tshirt to receive triforce like many neckbeards do
Yeah that link isn't the hero of courage, the big fish says it. Or the tree
Maybe the magic beans could be a source of food. The guy selling them is eating a lot of them.
That's also what I was saying. They look pretty good too
Yeah, we know they have beans, nuts, and carrots (since making epona move faster involves feeding her carrots.)
@AdeptArcanist I think the carrots are just a ui thing. Epona moves faster due to the fact link is whipping her
@@AdeptArcanistthere is also bees. So we have honey.
Also magic mushrooms in the forest!
Don't think you'd have to worry about the Triforce, actually. Ganondorf only got his hands on it because Link opened the Temple of Time and drew the Master Sword from its pedestal, thus giving Ganondorf access to the Sacred Realm. So unless someone else is able to find and gather the three sacred stones, get the Ocarina of Time, and learn the Song of Time, AND draw the Master Sword, Ganondorf isn't getting the Triforce. He's still a threat, sure, but not nearly on the level he is in the game.
If we assume time actually passes with no one doing anything he absolutely realizes his goals I think, he gets the stones by killing the great deku tree like he does in the game, starving the gorons to death and causing panic in the zoras by killing jabu jabu with his parasite, he can totally get his hands on the ocarina of time too he also almost did it in the game, and learning the song is just a matter of bribing or blackmailing the right important people
When it comes to the master sword, if oot ganondorf is comparable in power to totk ganondorf he could totally just destroy the master sword and break the seal like that
@@Yamartim he doesn't have the secret stone in OoT so no crazy powers like breaking the master sword
@@YamartimGanondorf breaking the Master Sword in TotK is a anomaly. It's only possible specifically because of how OP Gloom is.
The fallen hero timeline exist, so we know for certain he can obtain his goals
@@videogamesarecool9280Yeah, he's fighting to get the triforce because he wants that ultimate power, but in the end, he will still try to overthrow the kingdom anyway.
If you know the plot of the game before entering, Ganondorf becomes a non issue. When Link goes back in time at the end of the game, he just snitches on Ganon to Zelda and tells her what he's gonna do. According to lore, he's then caught and executed as seen in twilight princess. Yeah he comes back but you'd be dead by then.
Well, prior to being captured and 'executed,' Ganondorf takes the Gerudo and embroils Hyrule in a bloody war. Don't think you'd want to get caught up in that.
If there is no hero of the prophecy, then there is no evil overlord of the prophecy, I believe. They are the two different faces of the same coin and princess Zelda is the slice.
The presence of scarecrows in Lake Hylia implies crops I think.
Especially since theyre standing in small tilled patches. Id imagine the old scientist or the fisherman grow things there to supplement fish and whatever else they might trade for with Zoras
@@emilyrobinson6080 just gotta theft some seeds and grow my own crops
Plus how do you spur your horse to go faster? You feed them a carrot!
I think Hyrule denizens just have social hangups with displaying vegetables in the open 😂
Also the windmill in Kakariko
I think it's the "in-game" thing. Like, the crops exist in lore, but they are not present as something visible in the game. So if we treat this thought exercise as literally being sucked into the game as is, we can't obtain any, because they are not there.
imagine having to consume 7.5 liters of water every 12 minutes
imagine how much pee
Imagine _never_ needing water because time doesn’t flow in cities.
@@sumthinorother9615it only stops for Link, so imagine having to do something at a certain time of day, and suddenly you need to wait for the little gremlin kid to leave town so time starts moving again.
I love water. I can drink about a gallon of water (~3.8L) over the course of an entire day. I could not imagine having to drink almost twice that 5 times an hour. That is literally 240 gallons (~908L) of water per day, just to survive.
And the constant bowel movements!
I feel like the removal of Link from that universe would either break the curse entirely, meaning Ganondorf would never be stopped, or it'd reincarnate a new Link. Two Links can exist at the same time, that's canon. It doesn't require the first one's soul or anything.
generally each link is only born every few hundreds or thousands of years between games though, we'd be long dead by then
@@Yamartim One of the topdown games has an old man who was the previous Link, and there was a scrapped game about an old librarian who takes in the next Link as his apprentice. Seems to me like it's every
@@BacxaberCould you clarify about the game with ‘the previous Link?’ All I could think of before you said it was a top-down game was that you meant the Hero’s Shade in TP. I’m not aware of any canon game that includes multiple concurrently living incarnations of Hyrule’s Link.
@@Dash123456789Brawl I think they might be mixing up the surviving member of Tetra's crew that knew WW Link and meets ST Link
@@Nathan-qp9uvA Link Between Worlds
“Who gets the Triforce of Courage”
Plot twist: I get the Triforce of Power and become the villain, and Ganondorf gets Courage
Kakariko may SEEM comfy at a glance, but remember it's flanked by an active volcano on one side, a graveyard with actual ghosts on another side, is home to not one but two buried torture sites housing the vengeful undead, and also features a house full of cursed spider people. Plus the neighbors play their music really loud all night and you'd never get any sleep.
The real chad move is to live at Lon Lon Ranch and work as a ranch hand. Comfy horseback riding, an endless supply of milk and dairy products, a jolly old man who entertains you with chicken hide-and-seek and is more than happy to marry off his incredibly beautiful songstress daughter to you, and the worst thing that happens there throughout the course of the game is a hostile buyout by the local Ganondorf fan.
Lon Lon Ranch is a safe choice until night hits and so do those goddamn crows.
I was also thinking about Lon Lon Ranch. Being a ranch hand would probably earn us rupees. I'm sure Talon (the owner of the ranch and father of Malon) would appreciate the help. You could live a pretty cozy/peaceful life being a cowboy/rancher and riding on horse back into town to deliver the lon lon milk.
Endless supply of milk at Lon Lon Ranch, eh? 🥴🥛I’m sold.
@@gabe5918I see you
Hell, even the hostile buyout is only a temporary issue. Even in a worst case where it gets so bad you have to leave, once Link changes things there you'll soon be seeing Malon selling Lon Lon Milk again where you learn the ranch is better. And given Malon and talon are nice people they'd no doubt happily accept you back.
Regarding ganon, remember that there is a canon solution to this problem: Warn zelda.
Link does this after the events of the game when he goes back in time. We know the events of the game, so we could do the same.
That's a good point, I didn't consider that. I guess there's a possibility that she might think you're crazy, but if she's willing to listen to Link, then she might listen to you.
I'd still keep the rating somewhat low, because this is GANONDORF. He could definitely figure something out before he's put in prison/executed.
@PretzelYT yeah, that's what happens in twilight princess.
If Ganondorf sees a REAL LIFE HUMAN BEING running around, he's absolutely going to plan around that. But being the isekai protagonist in this scenario, who's Zelda going to believe, you, or the guy she literally FEELS the ill intent radiating off of? It's really your word against his, and he is pretty decently high up the social ladder by the time you seen him through that window.
@@PretzelYTAnd it's like you said-
See Twilight Princess, the gods have a sense of humor when it comes to letting Ganondorf get executed.
Link has the Triforce of Courage though. That's why people knew he was the Hero of Time and believed him even though he was a kid. I don't think they would believe us though.
I would team up with the guy that was making a bomb , to make a gun to shoot the Ganon
I'd try looking for Morshu in Hyrule, he must be somewhere there, hiding. Because he has lamp oil, ropes, bombs, I want, and it's mine as long as I have enough rupees.
@@FullAutoWitch brilliant
@@FullAutoWitch Nice idea
*Morshu trying to explain something gif playing*
The old man at the laboratory mentions how eyeball frog eyes are a delicacy he enjoys and how if it wasnt needed for medicine, that night’s dinner would be special because of it.
The gorons also are in a predicament due to their food source being closed off, granted they eat rocks but I think the idea remains that NPCs do eat even if we dont see them do so.
Theres also fish that are widely available in many bodies of water so it wouldnt strictly be red meat, and Id imagine cucco eggs and milk/other dairy products would be available since we get both eggs (to be hatched, not eaten) and milk in the game.
Some things I found noteworthy:
* Unless they saw you emerge from Link's House, the Kokiri probably wouldn't care about an adult being there, people visit Kokiri all the time, that's why there's a shop. They would, however, expect you to be only visiting.
* The Deku Tree would absolutely hear you out, but he would absolutely not allow you to stay. Without the protection of a Fairy, you'd get lost in the mist and become a Stalfos. He'd probably give you some advice on where you could go at least.
* The cows eat hay, so we can assume that NPCs need to eat, we just never see it on screen.
* Do not eat Deku Nuts, those are not vegetables, they explode with a blinding light when hit hard enough.
* How to get a place? Simple: Impa's house in Kakariko is open to the public, so people are just allowed to stay there if they don't have a home anywhere else. Alternatively, if you're okay with listening to people scream about how bad being cursed sucks, you could always crash in the House of Skulltula.
* Possibly a continuation of the Cows eating Hay thing; In order for the hypothetical to make sense, we have to assume that the world becomes real (IE NPCs become people) or else no events happen and no one but us ages. In games like this, Time moves with the protagonists footsteps, so if we treat the NPCs as NPCs during the Hypothetical, Ganon becomes a non-threat, as does the pressure he's put on the various leaders of the land, as no future events will happen unless we walk into the exact correct place.
I had many of the same thoughts!
We aren't just entering a sterile, digital world. We are entering a fantasy world where people act like people. LET THEM EAT CAKE! (Or whatever food NPC's like)
You could also say that you're Link's cousin from his mother's sister's cousin's side of the family. technically it's not against canon or lying at all.
I mean, yeah, when Link goes to Kokiri forest as an adult, none of the Kokiri recognize him, yet they still treat him with hospitality.
Unless we inherit Navi when we switch places with him, then we could stay in the forest theoretically as long as we wanted to
I always thought of the Kokiri Shop as just being kids playing store and getting really intense about it, not that they were expecting other races to come through town and buy from them.
I love these "could you survive in" videos, it's pretty interesting.
Seconded, these are great! More please!!
I do want to add in the child timeline where gannon doesn't get the triforce he just invades with his army the usual way
Right. He may take over Hyrule, but he doesn't have godlike power.
In the child timeline, after Link gets sent back to the past by Zelda, he reveals the truth about Ganondorf preventing him from being able to take over until Twilight Princess.
By that logic, if YOU were sucked into the game world, you would be able to do the same thing as Link. Once you know that Ganondorf is evil, you can tell everybody and prevent him from taking over.
I feel like in fighting Ganon, you have a massive advantage, and that is foresight. Presumably for most people who watched this video, you're an adult, or at least not 12. Thus, it'll be easier for you to have influence in the world.
Thus here is my game plan -
Realize I've been transported into Ocarina of Time. Ask the kokiri to let me visit the great deku tree, and explain the situation. Try my best to convince them to let me have some supplies, then set out for the rest of Hyrule.
At this point, I'm probably dressed like a kokiri, but to some extent, I look a bit more "normal." I travel to castle town, and simply tell everyone that I'm a traveler from a far off land. At that point, I begin to work to support myself, and while I do so, build relationships in the community, and keep tabs on Ganon.
Because I know who Ganon is and what he's doing, I can build trust until I can warn the king and other groups in Hyrule. Heck, you could go as far as gathering other concerned citizens, and running espionage in Gerudo Valley, trying to thwart their plans.
The difficulty without Link is that the way I see it, there's a strong likelihood that you are going to get involved in a much more traditional and brutal war. Fun! But seriously, Ganondorf is going to take this world by force, it's not as easy for him, you know what he wants to do, and he knows you can somehow anticipate his choices. War I'd say, is inevitable.
There is, like you mentioned, the prospect of being deemed the new hero of time. If you take Link's place at the start, you might get pulled into helping the great deku tree, and thus getting the kokiri emerald - not a great start to make yourself less conspicuous to the whims of fate.
Further, if you take an active role in stopping Ganondorf, which you should, because you have knowledge others don't, that will further spotlight you as someone uniquely suited to have the triforce of courage. It would be quite dangerous, but with potions, fairies, possibly even the master sword, and your unique ability to problem solve outside the original bounds of the game, I think defeating Ganondorf is very doable, especially if you are an experienced player of the game, and know a bunch of tricks to use.
But.. giant spiders :(
It's a good idea, though in the event you are the new Hero of Time you have to consider you are considerably less durable than any other inhabitant of Hyrule. Unlike Link, your body is more prone to bruises, cuts, maybe fractures, is likely less acrobatic, and has stamina issues like BOTW Link.
This will go into wondering how do the magical items in the game affect you, like do Heart Containers make you more durable to stabs, or is it you can just like "bleed out" longer but still experience the pain of a sword stabbing you and staying there 😅. If it's the latter, you're basically just a OHKO to most enemies, not even talking Ganondorf.
The best bet likely is to try and become the royal tactician like older Fire Emblem games, honing your intelligence on how to position troops so that you can still contribute to Ganondorf's defeat.
Remember we're dealing with the physical capabilities of a human, so there's a pretty decent chance you just die in the deku tree from gohma, or maybe just from falling after failing to climb massive walls of vines
Ganondorf can split any of us in half with a single hand dude
@@Yamartim That web pit that you need to jump onto to enter the boss fight will likely be a hard lock unless you plan on breaking every bone in your body, still fighting off a spider rather than getting spider death as a reward for surviving, and then.. how do you plan on getting out? If you do get out, how's life treating you afterwards? Healing might not be as simple as a fairy or hearts in the grass for us.
For specifically vitamin C, you could make a tea with pine needles. There may be other edible plants that we don't think of as food as well, for example in our world dandelions can be eaten.
Who knows, peahat roots might be delicious roasted like artichoke hearts. Usually any plant that defends itself with big thorns (yet alone freaking out like a giant flying beyblade) have something delicious.
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I’m not even fighting that thing when I can respawn, there’s no way you’re fighting a helicopter with medieval weaponry.
Would not recommend that to any women looking to become mothers though. Pine needle tea from a lot of species of pine will terminate gestation. In a side note I hate how we have to find creative ways around controversial terms here.
Organ meats have more than ample amounts of vitamin C. And all non-organ meats have it as well, just not as much as fruit does. But it may not be necessary as high-meat diets do not seem to require as much of it to stave off scurvy.
They have potions, maybe they also contain vitamin c?
My Ganon solution: retrieve the kokiri's emerald from the Great Deku Tree, the safest sacred stone to get, and then go into hiding.
Assuming Ganon doesnt have some magical sense for detecting the stones, you could just hide it, and nobody would know. He never gets into the sacred realm, and the world never goes post apocalypse.
not very safe for a normal human to fall hundreds of feet just to break through a spider web i dont think, also the deku tree would have to trust you in the first place to give the stone to you, he didn't raise you since you were a baby like link
He'd probably engage in more mundane methods of conquest. I dunno how well you could hide from him sweeping an army of monsters across the land murdering and pillaging their way through anyone that resists.
I've got an even easier solution: let him get the Stones, play the Song to open the door, and... be absolutely powerless to break the seal on the Sacred Realm by drawing the Master Sword, a blade evil hearts can't even touch, much less wield.
I would simply bury it in the most random spot in existence
Solution for low Safety: Just work for Ganondorf
He's evil in the sense that he wants to rule the world, but if you go off of wind waker Lore, he just wants a better life for his people.
Even taking that motivation out of the equation, the world doesn't actually get THAT much worse with Ganondorf in charge. Well it gets worse for the Kokiri, Zora, and Gorons. But for Hylians it doesn't change that much. Everyone moves from Castle Town to Kakriko, which would be at most a day of travel.
AND! When ganondorf takes over, all the Skeletons in Hyrule Field disappear.
The biggest worry about be it turning into Wind Waker's flooded world due to no Hero of Courage.
Dont confuse his nostagia and regrets in wind waker with actual care of his people. He went against their values by attacking women and children with his bands of thieves, mind controlled those who opposed him and left the gerudo to rot in the desert once he took over Hyrule and didn't need them anymore.
Kakariko also gets "destroyed" by Bongo Bongo as a result of Ganondorf's actions. If we're talking about a scenario where the door of time was still opened, that's one of the least safe places to be (besides maybe Goron City)
Ganondorf: "Evans! Where's that package delivery?"
"Um, I don't know, sir."
Ganondorf: "You know what this means, right?"
"The gap between dimensions again, sir? Maybe if you'd stop sending people there, we wouldn't be having this probl---"
Counterpoint: WW Ganondorf is A LOT more mature than OoT Ganondorf. He lost, he learns from his loss, and he's had THOUSANDS of years of being sealed to contemplate his defeat orchestrated by the goddesses, and his motivations. And having been sealed a second time between OoT and WW.
OoT Ganondorf hasn't any of that. He's a king riding high on power and conquest.
That's the same reason why TP Ganondorf isn't as wise as WW Ganondorf. He NEVER lost to Link, He never faced real defeat, therefore he can't learn from it, and instead of thousands of years contemplating his loss and motivations, he instead has thousands of years of rage. He wasn't beaten by a hero sent by the goddesses, he was beaten by a king who didn't fall for his false allegiance. He wasn't sealed by the sages awakened by the goddesses, he was executed by the old sages, and awakened to power, resulting in him being sealed in the twilight realm.
That's why TP Ganondorf makes the exact same mistakes as OoT Ganondorf. He's learned nothing, and is the same man from OoT MO wise.
he wanted better for himself, not for his people
A lot of games have an entire separate artstyle for their overworld long-distance travel map entirely to help ease the Scale Theory's potential for killing immersion.
Hahaha I've been reading interviews for Final Fantasy VII's final episode in the remake trilogy, and it seems like that's troubling them. It was a lot easier to render the world in a simple scale for an airship that you're able to fly around the world it. The team says they're struggling on how to implement that in a game that doesn't have that abstracted world map.
Super curious to see how they handle it.
@@PretzelYT i am a programmer so feel free to ask what you want
@@PretzelYTI feel like a game where this could get really messy is Red Dead Redemption 2. A lot of people have mentioned it - it's a very realistic world. It's literally trying to recreate real world 1899. The question is however, are you trapped literally in the actual map, or do you have access to the real life places mentioned like New York (or Tahiti 🙃).
If we act like it's just the real world... then basically all you've done is time traveled, and you can live a somewhat decent life. Stuck in the in game map though... and eventually even the expansive world of red dead 2 is going to wear on you after years of living there.
@@PretzelYT pls do rianworld next i really want see if able survival in rian worlde
@@WasatchWind as a trans woman it wouldn't be an easy or normal life, I'd be treated like dirt at best and that's if I find a way to pass.
There are carrots in OoT. You have an infinite amount when riding Epona
Just gotta get on horseback and chomp down on raw veggies for sustenance.
My thoughts exactly. It'd be like Homer with the alcohol-fueled car.
"One for you, one for me, one for you, one for me."
casually gets on my horse and reaches up and pulls a carrot off the ui that no one else can see
I think with the danger factor there's a couple of things to consider:
1) Only the hero of time is able to pull the sacred blade, and that's ultimately what causes the sacred realm to open. Without it, we have to question if even with the medallions, Ganondorf would be able to get to the sacred realm
2) Assuming we have foreknowledge about what happens in the game, we can just do what happens at the end of the game. We can warn Zelda and the king of Hyrule of what's to come before Ganondorf comes to power and he'd be executed
The Master Sword cannot be wielded by an evil hand, so Ganondorf certainly could not draw it. Could he force someone else to draw it in his place? Possibly, unless the blade can sense duress and wouldn't budge.
you wanna forget about politics in hyrule? when you've just spent minutes talking about the king of evil?
Listen, that's not morals or politics, when he is literally THE "EVIL KING" GANONDORF, we can pretty objectively say he's not good without much debate.
@@mr.personalspace7831naming fallacy 💀
@@mr.personalspace7831Just wait until you're trying to convince people he's evil, and they accuse you of being prejudiced against Gerudo 💀
@@WasatchWind HE FROZE ZORA'S DOMAIN
@mr.personalspace7831 correction, he freezes Zora's domain.
As far as hyrule is concerned Ganondorf is a King trying to swear fealty to hyrule after losing a war. Most people have no idea he's *objectively* evil.
Should mention that in the OoT manga, link actually eats Bread mentioning it tastes better than the fruits of the forest. So Behind the scenes there would be fruits and grains (and presumably other stuff like corn) so I think you are good.
He said we are going with the game world we can see..
@@songokuwukong figured I'd just add that bit of knowledge, as one could see the manga and other material as a supplement. Just food for thought
@@songokuwukongit's crazy to believe that a world full of green and forests don't have vegetables
Is the manga canon?
@@benjaminoechsli1941 no idea. But it is a good read
It's important to note that when the Triforce splits, the pieces don't go toward whoever already possesses their qualities, but whoever desires each quality the most. Link being absent from the world and no longer seeking to prove his courage since he's watching RUclips on your couch means he's disqualified now. Since you want to survive in Hyrule above all else, it's only fair that you get the Triforce of Courage.
Don't hang around the woods too long, or you might end up in Termina. And we all know that world has a more terrible fate.
Great video as always!
Regarding the issue of money: Getting rupees from cutting grass isn't just something meta. There's a canon reason for why they keep appearing: the Minish keep replenishing them, so it would be perfectly viable to get wealthy by doing that.
My head canon for a more realistic rupee is that they're a variety of a sort of quartz. Finding them naturally, they're just rare enough to be worth something, but perhaps in more organized periods of Hyrule's history, they are actually cut and maybe engraved with a royal seal or something, to prevent the currency from inflating.
oh god so the reason we dont find them in grass anymore in botw and totk is because all the minish died? thats messed up
@@WasatchWind they are valuable because they are literally magical, the different colors are literally the green ones magically combined into the new color
@@YamartimYou find them under rocks all the time and I feel like that's the same deal
"There are so many people in this world, it would be easy to find a little group you fit into"
Me: Um... *looks around nervously*
I'm enjoying this series - and I like how you spelled out the assumptions so clearly. The only criticism is that tallying up all the points at the end doesn't tell you much - 3s across the board average to the same as all 1s and 5s, but those are very different prospects.
You could have a Perfectly safe, enjoyable world, with 0 potable water, and so get a fantastically high rating for somewhere you'd last less than a week.
To spin the speculative yarn of food availability in a real-time and scale Hyrule, I'm literally diving into a HUD element so bear with me.
If you were to have a pack of all the typical adventuring equipment, bottles and junk, being entrusted with Epona in the adult timeline seems to indicate that she eats from a supply of carrots you keep on hand. This is just the symbol used for sprinting (unlike spurs in Twilight Princess), if we translate the fricken _sprint distance_ from in game time and space to real world proportions it's logical that these carrots do grant Epona the energy to gallop faster over longer periods. And if we fully hinge on this idea of carrots being a tangible resource then the amount of time to regain sprints is the amount of time it would take to forage for carrots, which seem readily available anywhere in the overworld Epona has access to (which are just travel regions with fast forwarding time).
Combine the assumption of wild carrots growing in abundance across Hyrule with milk, eggs, and steaks, we've almost got a food pyramid to choose from. Unless, of course, we are just sitting in a kilometer long stretch of flat polygons watching the sun pass every four minutes, but that lacks fantasy.
I'd think the Kokiri would most likely assume that a random human showing up is probably fine because what are they gonna do- leave? Clearly they were supposed to end up here, that's why they're not a Stalfos, silly! It's the Deku Tree you'd need to worry about, but tbh, he'd probably meet you with curiosity more than anything else as long as you're honest and peaceful. Might still make you leave but if he does, you'll probably just be led out to the forest entrance and set free. At worst, they just force you out into the woods.
As for Ganondorf, you could speak with the Deku Tree and tell him you have knowledge of events that he too is privy to (such as his curse). With that, you might have some realistic chance of warning the king of Ganondorf's betrayal. A human that entered the Kokiri village unharmed without a fairy AND came back out unharmed? That sounds pretty serious, he might actually give you consideration
Effectively this is what Zelda does after sending Link away anyway, she just warns the king successfully in her childhood. Then you'd be set until he breaks free like a century later. Could argue it's too meta but I think simply warning others should count as a realistic and therefore viable option since we're assuming NPCs still have jobs and renewable resources and the like.
Warning others is a lot easier cause most viewers here are older than 12 I'd wager, and that is a big point in your favor. Knowing what Ganondorf is planning beforehand, even if the king doesn't listen, is going to help you a lot.
Something like wait for Ganondorf to ride out of castle town after Zelda, and have a magical trap laid for him. Incapacitate him, and bring him to the castle as prisoner while trying to negotiate with the Gerudo for an end to hostility.
The difficult thing I keep running into is that while you have a good chance of stopping Ganondorf from successfully getting the three stones, you opposing him, lengthening his timeline to victory, and generally making his life more difficult has a good chance of starting a real traditional war.
@@WasatchWind dang, didnt think of that
@@WasatchWind “Incapacitate him” dude Ganondorf is 7’2” and has magic powers, imagine if Shaq could fire energy balls out of his palms
"The worse case is that they force you into the woods" THATS A DEATH SENTENCE! We presumably aren't given a fairy(though link isn't kokiri and he gets one so you might be given one if you get the triforce of courage), so we turn into a stalfos if we get lost in the lost woods. Though, the Kokiri probably wouldnt kill us, so we would be fine
One thing about Ganondorf is you also need the Ocarina of Time and to play the Song of Time to get to the Triforce. If Zelda/The Royal Family keeps the Ocarina of Time safe, or even destroy it out of desperation, Ganondorf's plans are screwed.
That and at least for 50% of the population (like me), you could just join the Gerudo and then be set into safety.
Ganondorf wins? The group you joined gets to have a pretty good time. Ganondorf never gets the triforce? Hey, he made an alliance with the king of Hyrule so things are going to look pretty good too!
@@rheokalyke367 I don't think Gerudo let outsiders join, woman or not. Link was just a formality, even. Besides, that also means you'd live in the desert, which is way worse off.
Considering what happened to Lorule when their Triforce was destroyed, getting rid of the Triforce would likely lead to just as many issues.
@@MultiCool55 I meant destroying the Ocarina of Time, not the Triforce.
Ganon could just enter the temple by brute forcing to it
I like how you showed 5/5 for traversability at the end while showing us a mechanism for travel that would almost certainly rip our arms out of our sockets.
Maybe you can do what Link does in the child timeline and snitch on Ganondorf by letting the King know that he killed the Deku Tree, put a parasite into Jabu Jabu, and is starving the Gorons.
The only problem would be getting the King's attention and willingness to hear you out. If he listens, then Ganondorf is caught, executed, and Hyrule is safe far longer than a long human lifespan.
This would probably lead to a similar world to the Child Timeline, except the Hero of Twilight wouldn't exist, which kind of screws over the events of Twilight Princess. Also, Termina would be destroyed unfortunately.
"Hey, I come from a world where all of you are characters from a book (videogame would be to hard to explain), and Ganondorf is hiding something."
Problem solved
You can encounter schizos saying this in real life already.
There are only a few characters who won't think you're crazy for saying that: Caepora Gaebora (the owl), Zelda, and the Deku tree. What could they do?
@@johnpett1955 My rounded ears would stick out enough to at least consider the possibility that i'm from another world
@@rlira8072 The Gerudo people have rounded ears in Ocarina of Time, so it's still pretty far-fetched imo. It's not like having rounded ears makes you undeniably from another world. Especially when we consider that there are places outside of Hyrule in the series.
@@johnpett1955 We ventured out of Hyrule in The Legend of Zelda 2 and they have pointy ears. And about the Gerudo, a male Gerudo is born every 100 and the current one is Ganon, so if you're not ginger, that should rule you out.
I wonder what the Hyrulians will think of the elongated and tall human that suddenly appeared?
Well the Hylians look fairly human, and in other parts of the Zelda universe, the humans have rounded ears. You could easily get away with saying you're from Labrynna or something.
This of course begs the rules of this experiment, of if upon entering Ocarina of Time, a more real expanded universe comes into existence.
You'd be the only one made of more than 200 triangles!
Humans are a thing in Hyrule. The Ordonians are normal humans. They probably live mostly outside of Hyrule.
@@Sauraen I feel like given the scenario of "can you survive" it implies that the world becomes more real. People are flesh and blood, they eat things - if you need to eat so should they.
I feel like it should operate this way unless you're in a game that makes big departures from reality.
Castle Town is realistically the only place any of us would be in any actual danger. You'd have a monster in the village, but that guy lives in a hole no one goes in, so like, we're all probably good.
"Traversibility" would be absolutely interesting for a game like Minecraft. Sure, Steve can jump up blocks half his height just fine, but you? I'd be tuckered out after climbing a small hill. And how would mining blocks affect your own stamina? Even creating a hole in the ground that's the size of a Minecraft block can take about 30 minutes to an hour.
Ganondorf would need the ocarina to open the door too.
There are definitely vegetables in Hyrule. Even beyond the magic beans and Deku nuts, when you ride on a horse you can feed it carrots, so those are definitely available.
"It would be easy to find a group to fit into"
I feel like the Gerudo are a great option to join. At least for me. They are not in immediate danger of Ganondorf (as they are working for him) and the Gerudo are only hostile to outsider men, not outsider women.
With no Link around to stop Ganondorf, it feels like the safest bet. Even if Ganondorf fails to obtain the triforce of power, it would mean the alliance with Hyrule he makes with the king would ensure a bright future.
Yeah but ask the wrong questions and you end up getting mind wiped and trapped in a suit of armor for seven years.
I really enjoy the strange yet logical rabbit hole of questions that you ponder from this series. Like on one side of the coin you're worried about nutrition, but on the other you're questioning if Ganondorf would get to the sacred realm on his own, who the triforce of courage would go to without Link around, and if that person could even succeed at defeating him.
Idk there's just something very satisfying exploring the question of "could you survive here?" where you really consider so many different angles.
The virgin "too much water" vs the chad "a lot of water, 5/5"
Fuck memes.
IGN is feeling this one to the core of their bones lol
I love how cozy these videos are. Being able to explore these games' worlds in a new light just fills me with nostalgia. I'd love to see stuff like this done with more Zelda games, especially with like Twilight Princess.
I love this kind of videos❤ hope you upload more, i love the deep research you do to do these🎉
Listening to you talk through these questions makes me feel like a kid again.... which is pretty damn magical. It's nice to remember when the most important questions and priorities were those you made yourself.
I'm definitely gonna try out some bottled fish lol. I hope Cuccoo lay eggs as often as real chickens as well.
Why settle with bottle fish, the fishing pond implies there are some 20lb fish in the water, just not seen in the other parts of the game for game reasons.
@@aienma6660 A pound of fish (or less) is a hearty meal, in my experience. If we assume a conservative 15 pounds of that 20 pound fish is edible, that's 15 meals, or 5 days. Basically a week. 👌
@@benjaminoechsli1941 And it wouldnt be that hard to catch... I mean, young link can pull in those beasts of fishes, so a full grown man/woman can do the same.
Gannon: I was told a hero would come to stop me, is that you?
Me: I guess…
Gannon: do you have like a sword or magic to use?
Me: I have a construction license.
Gannon:…..can you at least play an ocarina?
Me: what the hells an ocarina?
Gannon: ok I’m going home, my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined. (Rides away)
Me:…what a jerk.
My man! 🤝
As someone who works in home renovation, my first thought this video was "Enh, I'll just go get hired by the Kakariko guy. He clearly could use another hand."
@@benjaminoechsli1941 yea construction is hard but it comes with his own rewards by being able to make things with your own hands.
Gannon: hey umm sorry for being rude I was just disappointed is all.
“Yea I see from your perspective being the king of evil is all.”
Gannon: yea so I guess I can’t rule now…..meaning I might need a job.
“Oh umm ok do you have a construction license?”
Gannon: No
“Have you ever worked in construction before?”
Gannon: No, but I do have magic.
“Do you have a criminal record?”
Gannon:…….Noooo
“Yea I don’t think we can hire you buddy, maybe you can find employment at Lon Lon ranch.”
Gannon:………ok…(rides away)……jerk.
Love that he's too disappointed to even kill you. He figures leaving you alive is the worst punishment. He can't possibly do any worse to you.
I love this series, and i love that you went more in depth about what and why you treat as game mechanics and or what is real compared to your mario 64 video. Keep up the good work!
Step 1: Take triforce piece
Step 2: Leave Hyrule
Step 3: Profit?
This is a top tier series, I can *definitely* see this continue to get bigger as you continue to get better at making it.
The answer to who gets the Triforce of Courage is actually solved in Cadence of Hyrule.
Link still would. And he'd be taken back to Hyrule by it.
The Triforce was needed while Ganon was still a child, so Link got the Triforce of Courage, Zelda got the Triforce of Wisdom... and Cadence from Crypt of the NecroDancer got the Triforce of Power, and she was pulled into the Legend of Zelda world to help the other 2.
Or it could be given to Link (the goron)
I love the idea that link just reappears in the world with you and you have to explain that you’re kinda stuck there.
Huh, that's super interesting? Never played Cadence of Hyrule.
Kinda makes me think each part of the triforce has their own special "contengency" in place for if it's displaced from the world. In WW they have to make a completely new hero due to a lack of the spirit of the hero, and usually Ganon doesn't wait around for that to come in many games. Yet in Cadence of Hyrule they straight up go- "yeah, uh here's your temporary teiforce of power for this threat💀".
The only irreversible one would probably be if Zelda's bloodline were to end, since from what I recall the triforce of wisdom is tied particularly to that.
@@UncreativePFAt this point most of Hyrule should be related to her unless the royal family is INCREDIBLY inbred.
Bro I need SO MUCH MORE of this series. You got me to subscribe in one single video, that has NEVER happened and I've had this RUclips account long enough that Google didn't own RUclips when I started. At least a decade.
Great series man! I love seeing this sort of creative approach to gaming videos. Keep them coming 🤩
Carrots are implied to exist by Epona's dash command, so ya got one vegitable technically.
As for meat only diets the Inuit people across the arctic have survived on a meat only diet for a very long time, but IDK if the vitamins available in seals, bears, and whales are available in just cows and chickens.
I think adding bottled fish and bugs into the mix would get you there. In addition to the Deku seeds/nuts and potential other edible plants/fungi. We know mushrooms exist too (odd mushroom) and you'd also have plenty of Lon Lon milk to drink
Don't forget about the magic bean guy eating those beans lol. On top of that, the scientist at the Lake Hylia laboratory mentions something about wanting to eat eyeball frogs lmao.
Great job! I love how you based everything on a clean foundation of your game world's rules, even addressing Scale Theory. A lot of people would have glossed over that stuff and jumped back & forth between different world rules/interpretations etc.
love this series im calling it now this is a hella underrated youtube channel keep this up youll blow up for sure
First time viewer, anytime I see OSRS reference, example, or transition. I’m always sold lol great video
This is an incredible concept for a series and I absolutely love it. Hope to see many more episodes!
1:10 "no abusing glitches"
So you're telling me I can't spend 20 minutes fiddling around with a boomerang and a bottle to turn Ganondorf into a fish 😢
Or 9 minutes carrying invisible rocks through loading screens to get ACE... Hmm, if you brought TASBot with you into the world, how would you plug him into the controller ports?
That's when you get Kid Link to play the game and do it. 🧠
This is a great series and I'm looking forward to it continuing!
Combination of survival and impossible wacky situations. Really makes me sad that I can't go and try to experience and test myself in it. But the genre is my new favorite.
Great episode! Certainly living in Hyrelu would be pretty doable. I was gonna ask for Majora's Mask when I was reminded about the three day ending catastrophe, which most certainly eliminates any persona that doesn't have a magical ocarina and know the song of time.
I think that one of the better Zeldas to live in is Wind Waker. Civilization isn't in an amazing place, but hey, you're on a bunch of tropical islands. Ganondorf also is a lot more low key in this game, so you could perhaps ignore him.
If you wanted to, you could even go so far as to lead the canonical expedition to New Hyrule, and leading the founding of a new nation. Hard to find many long term projects in a game that would be as fulfilling as that.
I think the hardest thing though with Wind Waker would be the sudden disappearance of Link. Suddenly he's gone, everyone is sad, and then his sister is kidnapped. Pretty crappy situation.
I prefer the Isekai premise then of you just dropping in, and nothing else has changed.
That being said, if you were given the ocarina but none of the other items/abilities, it would be a very interesting case. In terms of resources and safety, it's pretty similar to OoT, but what would be the psychological effect of experiencing the same three days over and over again for the rest of your life? Building relationships with people becomes impossible, since they forget about you at the start of each cycle
Not really if there's no Link to stop Ganondorf. Ganondorf isn't just going to leave Kakariko Village the way it is.
New favorite series! I've put a lot of thoughts in this myself over the years and many games. Can't wait for the next one
New subscriber because of this video and the Mario one. I really enjoy this type of content, and I suggest you do silent Hill, or banjo kazooie. Something like that.
This concept is absolutely amazing. Keep it up
0:52 thank you for putting a smile on my face, i needed that
Glad to see more of this series 😁
Was very excited to see a new one of these btw, love this entire concept
Interesting Video! Honestly I really would ask if I could stay in the Kokiri forest/village and would try to socialize to the other kokiri and would everything learn from them (also how to find a way through the forest, and with an ocarina or just sining, I could maybe find a way to play with the horror kids also, even as an adult - 'cause maybe they would stop attack you when u play/sining something. And since everybody of us would know Saria's Song, that wouldn't be a problem).
The only thing I think u forgot to mention about the food is: Milk. You will get so much milk from the cows/lon-lon-plp everytime. And when there's milk, there should also be a way to make cheese, quark and other things with it. And maybe the chickens also give eggs, so another protein giver. And with all that, maybe there is a way to bake something too! So there are more options to food than just meat everytime.
48 minutes ago is CRAZY
(love these videos, Pretzel
It's a tough balancing act with the idea of resources. Concessions have ro be made one way or another and I feel like you've settled on something that makes sense, but there are plenty of other valid ways to examine it.
For example, in this video, we've assumed that
1: NPCs wouldn't need food, and
2: NPC creatures such as cows, horses, and chickens would have nutritional value
I'm okay with the conclusions drawn from that, but looking at this scenario from another perspective involves incongruities. Do the horses, cows, chickens, etc need to eat? If not, what are they made of that makes them provide nutritional value? If we flipped this and claimed that all NPCs would need to eat as soon as we arrived, would our arrival bring turmoil to the world? If correlation was discovered between this dynamic change and our presence, would we be hated?
If we go back to us being the only being that needs to eat, and we examine the farm animals again, we also have to contend with the fact that the game doesn't normally have any need to re-spawn them (aside from cuccos--more on that next), because they're never supposed to be defeated. Would the game make another script call to spawn all the horses and cows back in when you return after slaughtering any of them? Cuccos can never be defeated either. They're invincible, and trying to eat them puts your life in serious jeopardy. You might even be able to temporarily neutralize Ganon with them if you can safely trick him into attacking one.
All of this is just food for thought though. You obviously can't even begin to consider the logistics of living in a game world unless the game's assets and environments are translated into realistic analogues to some degree, but going for complete realism makes most of these worlds fall apart. If we go for no concessions, we have a world so incongruent from our own that our very existence there is quite impossible. If we go for "complete" realism, then all of the water would eventually find itself over the side of the limited map, and we'd have no guarantee a flat, segmented world could even maintain an atmosphere. I think you've drawn a decent line on where to balance everything.
Yeah I've definitely thought about this. At the end of the day, I kinda just don't think about it too hard hahaha. I could spend a couple minutes talking about the food chain and how everything is supplied, but I don't think anyone wants to hear that. It's like answering a kid's question, and then they say "Why?", so you answer that and they ask "Why?" again. You could go down a never ending spiral like that. I just gotta call it at some point and make some core assumptions.
@@PretzelYTI feel like the best strategy for the future is considering what exists in canon. Carrots appear on Epona's stamina meter, so I think it's reasonable that you could obtain carrots.
I perhaps favor a too liberal interpretation of this however, as I'd say you can visit other kingdoms like Labrynna, because they exist in the canon.
The Octorok joke was SO. ON. POINT.
I love this stuff. Looking into games with a realistic lens never gets old
Here before the series takes off, and before you reach 50k.
True
same here.
This video in a nutshell:
My day be so fine, then boom, Ganondorf exists.
It's a good video, and even more good that I discovered your channel!
I absolutely love these kinds of videos since Super Mario 64! Its also a neat little way to discover games I've never trully experienced before ( like this one!! ), it almost feels like a very cozy lofi Game Theory video :) Keep it up and take your time, you're having one great idea friend
6:02 “I can’t think of any vegetables in the game”
Deku Nuts! Slingshot Seeds! Magic Beans! We even KNOW Magic Beans are edible, because the merchant is EATING them!
edit: bomb flowers! lol. And I always took the stall that everyone's crowded around in Castle Town to be a produce stall, IIRC there's SOMETHING that implies that about it, like an NPC line or something
dude’s getting high off his own supply…. i don’t trust those to be eaten!
@@connorfarnham7059 Maybe they're psychotropic, and that's part of the "magic"
Nah, unlike the mushrooms which are definitely drugs, the beans are probably just normal beans when eaten. The "magic" is the fact that the adult bean plant flies around.
Right at the start you would turn into a stalfos
nop, you're not in the lost woods
The Kokiri forest is safe from that curse, I believe. That is why Link wasn't turned into a skull kid/Stalfos because Link's a hylian and went up to this point without being turned into a skull kid/stalfos even without a fairy. I think it only comes into effect in the lost woods.
@@johnpett1955 even then, I think the curse is sort of like the zombies in the walking dead: you die and then reanimate. it wont happen if you just go into the woods, but people without fairy guides are doomed to get lost and presumably eventually die. And thats where I think they would reanimate as a stalfos. Grog seemed pretty near death when we find him, he might have gone there to die, and between the time it takes to take the mushroom back to Kakariko, and bring the medicine his granny makes back to him (who knows, it might have been an antidote to some poison he took or some super strength antidepressant to try to snap him out of it) he dies, reanimates, and shuffles off to go do stalfos things.
@itssnowcone That makes me wonder what the Skull kids would be then. They look like they are made of wood iirc, so they could be related to Deku scrubs.
You should add a section for making/finding weapons to defend yourself against monsters. Also a section on fun/entertainment. In Ocarina there are games to play and fishing to do.
For Ocarina there are plants that bite you that could count as vegetables. Also bees/honeycomb can make honey which would be nice to have.
This is a great idea for a series and it's going great too.
I'd be curious to dive into some games that don't have a distinct "setting" per se. Like smashbros.... what the hell would that even be like? Getting sent to all kinda of random levels every single day lol.
But then also the games with real settings are still very interesting to think about. Elder scrolls games would make great videos for this series, and many others too. I'm sure you've got plenty of ideas.
Can't wait for the Shadow of The Colosssus episode!
Bro gotta say, fr.
I love this video idea series. i'd say you've struck gold here. :) like solid gold.
Love this series dude keep making these
Lake Hylia would be annoying to get to, but someone was nice enough to set up a ladder to get in with.
So ganondorf even with the stones can’t get the triforce without getting some shmuck to pull the master sword and one worthy of pulling it too
Right. He could take over Hyrule, but he'd be a run-of-the-mill tyrant, not a divine-tier threat powered by the Triforce of Power.
@@benjaminoechsli1941 even that’s debatable. Without the triforce of power Ganon has to rely on intrigue to weaken the other kingdoms cause he’d lose in a straight battle
@@megarotom1590 Isn't it implied he successfully killed the king and took Hyrule Castle Town during the sequence leading up to Zelda ditching the Ocarina of Time in the moat for you to grab? Impa wouldn't be fleeing the castle with her unless the situation was _bad._
@@benjaminoechsli1941 I don’t think so… and besides a surprise attack does a lot but a United front would screw him over. Most of the town is happy the guards by the castle still are functioning and such etc. it’s no doubt he attacked and Impa had to take Zelda somewhere safe but they probably had a decent chance if they actually fought together
>It's day 27
>Be me, still cursing myself for wearing the weird looking VR helmet.
>Have to wake up early, days come and go, and I don't want to go outside at night in Hyrule Field. (Nearly game over'd myself figuring that out the hard way.)
>Link has not only atrophied, but his tunic has melted into his couch, fairy keeps dropping food in his constantly open mouth.
>Ran out of Kokiri forest day 1, settled in Kakariko, filled my only treasue-(empty bottle)-with water.
>Continue daily grind of cutting grass, and collecting rupees. Hearing rumors of a desert king coming to town a lot. Ignore it, future me's problem.
>Get hungry half way, eat some left over roasted Deku Nuts...actually kind of tasty, so long as you don't accidentally drop it, and flashbang yourself.
>Getting dark, head back to Kakariko, thank the kind lady for the spare bed, and stuff my found rupees in my hiding place until I can find a big wallet.
>Still miss the internet, but life ain't so bad...might talk to the cute Cuckoo farmer next door soon.
Please continue this series!!
It's quite enjoyable! 😁
I really enjoyed your video and I like it and eternally wish this would happen to me now. So great.
Cool idea for a series, and about to check out the other content. subbed!
A suggestion for the "could you survive in x?" games could be pokémon snap or diddy kong racing, stranded on an island with a lot of different biomes :D
I love this video! Great editing and fantastic theories!!!
This series is FANTASTIC I can’t wait for the next one
This is such a great series. I can't wait for the next episode!
love the concept for this series of videos.