Why am I NOT Coaching the Triple Extension?
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2023
- In this video I'm explaining the triple extension and what are the reasons that is bad to cue the athletes to focus on it, especially if they are beginners!
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I agree with your experince. My old coach kept saying, I need to "extent" more and focused too much in extension which made me loss in foot balance and slow turnover 😔
Thanks for sharing your in depth technical knowledge of the classical lifts. As someone who's picked up Weightlifting later in life and without a coach, your channel has been incredibly helpful. This video about what is the intent of extension, as well as your video the other day about learning the contact properly have been incredibly beneficial to my technique.
Hey Gabriel, great video, just a slight suggestion to make the next ones even better: would have been cool to have more video sequences demonstrating your points while you'd talk over them, for instance getting to see a slow motion clean from Zakharevich as well as yourself (perhaps before and after than change in technique if you had clips from when you overextended).
Hi, thank you for your feedback. I mentioned at the beginning that I won't observe what's happening at other athletes or myself in slow motion. Instead, I'll talk about my feelings and intentions about what is happen in triple extension.
this is very useful, you explained it so well with the vertical jump graph of force production vs time. Thank you for teaching us today.
You're very welcome!
Hi, superb video! That cue *_"fully extend"_* is an old one that needs to die. I was first coached by my father (class of 1935 - I'm class of 1966) and the last part of the "triple extension" was called "the back slingshot" (well, at least in italian). Anywas: in *that* style of pulling, this was necessary. And, it's kinda necessary for the _power_ clean, where you try to reach _height_ with the bar, in order to catch it in a quarter - or half - squat. But it all changes in the *full clean* : you *don't need* to pull for that long: the bar needs to FLY while you transition to bottom catch position. What counts there is the *vertical speed* of the bar, which is generated in the pull before that! For the *snatch* , however, more height is as important, so probably "triple extension" is a bit more needed than in the clean. I personally *don't* extend fully in the snatch, though.
(I'm long femured; the bar is already high enough when I finish the pull. but I need more time to reach bottom position.. a real mess, I'll tell you !)
I coach throws and we have a similar conversation currently around extension of the right leg and hip in the shotput and discus. Two points that are similar are that it's not the final extended position but the position just before that when the body has the best leverage and ability to create force, second point is about how an athlete reacts to a cue, if you cue triple extension and somebody moves how you want them to then great but it if not then another cue that gets them to move better might be the way to go.
Thanks for sharing. Great story. More of this type of content please!
More to come!
amazing video!! so much knowledge
thank you!
Great advice Gabriel! thank you for sharing your invaluable experience
welcome
What if the fully locked out "full triple extension" position is just like the "follow through" when you throw a ball? Following through with the arm doesn't produce more force, but producing max force earlier in the throw will cause you to "follow through" after the ball has left your hand. Same, if you produce max force in the power position won't you automatically end up in the "full extension" position, even though that position isn't adding anymore upwards movement to the barbell? Great video.
That would be great if we were focused on maximum bar height, which is incorrect - remember you also need time to get under the bar. Great question.
This video is amazing thank you, i always wondered why a lot of athletes do not fully extend their legs in the snatch
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I could not agree more.
For some others coaching them to extend “more” only hampers their ability to time a clean or snatch.
At our club we have tried the use of no extension snatchs and cleans to help people feel this timing. And for some the light bulb is amazing.
you are very smart then, congrats.
happy to hear that.
Excellent advice and thank you for sharing it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This type of information is pure gold and could only be provided by a world class elite athlete like Gabriel !
thank you
I used to be focused on the triple extension when cleaning but ever since I saw you talk about focusing on the transition under I defeintely don't entend as much but I am much more consistent and powerful on the cleans. it is very rare for me to miss cleans now
Great video. Especially that graph showing the standing high jump.
On a slightly different point, I remember watching Asen Zlatev warm up for the snatch. From 60kg up he pulled the bar to the necessary height to snatch it. He didn’t rip up 60. It just moved at the same speed that the maximum snatch would move at. In this case to lift the bar to the height a “triple extension”would have taken it to would have meant lifting the bar too high to catch it at the bottom. The phase of a triple extension is a weak one compared to the phase just before. You aren’t imparting any momentum but you are delaying going down to receive and having to go down further.
Thank you once again Gabriel
My pleasure!
Atta boy… great content … solid information
thanks
thanks for the insight
My pleasure!
You can be shown a hundred things by someone but when you learn from something that isn't working, that is learn empirically yourself you then understand it and this is the most valuable position to be in, congratulations Sir as that lesson is worth your weight in gold.
That's true, thanks
Strongly agree Coach🙏🏻
Thanks coach 🙏
Mulțumiri pt faptul ca împărtășești experiențele tale și datorită ție halterele sunt mult mai populare nu doar în România. Mult succes și aprecieri deosebite👏
Mersi la fel 🙏
For me personally I think to pull under when I contact, by the time my brain processes this im already fully extended, making the timing good for me. Its worth a try if you over pull.
Great advice. Maybe a link to example where you are not fully extended?
I don't think you understand well what I was saying in the video :)
@@gsincraian maybe before and after video?
He’s not saying to not fully extend but more to focus on how you get to that point rather than blindy thinking or coaching someone to just extend longer for the sake of it because holding the top of the pull longer is not help your force production at all
interesting idea - I think Anton Pliesnoi implemented this approach fairly successfully - no?
Of coarse...hes just more exaggerated
What did you use to make the thumbnail ? :o sick video
what you mean the program ? or the picture and font ?
@@gsincraian picture and the font w the black background. Clean
Was that analysis on Yuri Zakharevitch the one by Bud Charniga?
do you have a link to that? I'd like to read it
I don't remember the source, sorry :(
I have the force and power to almost do 90kg upright row, but only God Know how to go under the bar! if I go just to paralel Its +20kg on the snatch
8:33 beep made me fully extend.
lol same
sorry :))
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thanks , I apreciate it
When I watch your snatch the triple extension looks so full!?
I do personally struggle with the delay once I fully extend, though. It's like a pause at the full extension and then pulling under
that pause is there because your all focus is on the extension and you don't use well your legs in first and second pull
@gsincraian I will work on this thank you 🙏🏼
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