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Scott Bikes and why I’d never buy one.
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2021
- You will find this problem on many modern carbon bikes not just Scott bikes. Giant, Specialized, Trek, you name it, they all have the same issue. That problem is material choice, lack of quality control and most importantly putting profits ahead of giving their customer a good product.
For more info on BB problems in modern bikes click on my other video:
Bottom Bracket Problems Explained!
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In my time as a bike mechanic with these kinds of pressit fit BBs I tended to use a Wheels manufacturing press 9 pro kit, this allowed to slowly apply pressure evenly rather than punching it out with our standard park tool and blowing the cups to bits. even managed to get loctited bbs out in this fashion.
Yeah those Guys make the nicest tools. 👍🏻❤️
All Scott bikes are assembled at Giant factory in the Netherlands. I worked there for about 2 years and I saw most of Giant / Scott / Bergamont and in the past Trek were assembled the same way. Because factory was basically hiring everyone from the street and pushing them to the limits in order or archive the lines targeted , the quality of the assembly was terrible. Installing the BB careful was simply not possible with such speed and whenever the worker would find out that he damaged the BB during assembly he would not say anything to just keep the line running and keep his job.
That makes sense. Good information. 👍🏻
And I am a pope from Rome😂
@@TheKid_88 🤦
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Videos like these can only help to force improvements by the industry once more people catch on. 👍
My pleasure! ❤️
Another great video Reg which I have learned from Cheers. 👍
Luckily my Scott CR1 (2010) is fitted with external bearing bottom bracket which I don't believe is so bad?
Keep these informative videos coming.
You are very welcome. 🙏🏻 Ride safe!
I have a Canyon with the same issue and mine is aluminum. I had to remove some material and use a thread together bottom bracket. You would think with an aluminum bike that they could make a perfectly round BB. My guess is that it was perfectly rounded before they welded it all together.
Yikes! That is shoddy workmanship by them.
Thanks for the video could never buy a carbon bicycle now .
Going to buy Aluminum now . You saved a lot of people hard earn money .
Thank you so much for the video.
Thank you, yes I would say to my own kids. “When you start cycling aluminium frames will take you as far as you need to go. If you get really good someone will give you a carbon frame for free! If you don’t get really good, buy titanium or steel and enjoy it. “
Very informative, thanks !
You are welcome 🙏🏻
Hambini makes special bottom brackets to install in frames like this to resolve these manufacturing defects. You should give him a call and see if he will sell you some.
Yes why not pay 3x the price for the one I just used. 😂
@@reginaldscot165 Hambini’s is one piece, more aligned and stiff.
This is 100% something that should be brought to Scott's attention. Like almost all big manufacturers, they all have issues.
I own a Scott Foil, no issues with mine, but my next carbon frame will be from Time.
Time for a change. 😁👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 I see what you did there... I would really like an endurance style bike in titanium
Great video. Thank you.
Glad you liked it! 🙏🏻🙂
I am just curious, will aluminum press fit button brackets frame have this issue also. Or it a defect in the manufacture process on carbon frame. Try making a puller it might work better I hate punching bearing out form frame. Sorry you mention you have a puller. Have you service these bb bearing or just replace them .
I’m planning to buy a new puller for this size bearings, I just need to get a reliable delivery. (Not easy in Brunei)
The bearings were already damaged so no point to service them.
It’s mostly an issue with carbon manufacturing Processes. It is a mould of the bottom bracket not cut like metal so the Tolerances always poorer.
It can happen with metal bikes during welding… but it’s far less common.
Welding makes things warp too.
What bike WOULD you buy? I think you made some very good arguments for titanium in the past, but do you have a brand that you like?
I bought a Litespeed T1SL rim brake. 🙂
I'm new to bikes but I need a good second hand bike which brand is not overpriced and not with complicated issues do you think I should check,thanks for the heads up with Scott bikes
All modern carbon bikes have issues and if you buy second hand expect some issues. Budget 20% value of the second hand bike price for emergency repair and servicing. As for what to buy, a viewer in the US just showed me their second hand 90s Litespeed titanium road bike. That’s basically bombproof. But any bike is fine If it’s second hand and the price is right. 👍🏻🙂
Time is the best brand making a round bb using resin transfer molding rather than prepeg which have a lot of control on the shapes
Buy Time carbon frameset or go for metal frames
Excellent comment. Thank you.
My OG-EVKIN didn't have any of those issues at all. Every manufacturer who doesn't skip the machining step required to put the hole in side by drilling it will be fine.
thanks for the explanation
You are welcome 🙏🏻
Reginald , looking for help, i have the same BB issues, I'm just going o get a new bike for next season, recommend any mountain bikes between 1000-2000$? I usually take it and change the parts, id like to get a shimano 105 on a mountain bike and try it out top end speed lol. I replace my BB every 6 months, I might buy the same bike again if i can buy a titanium BB that fits or something like it.
I was thinking maybe the specialized Chisel Comp if I go over budget
Hi! If you have the same problem it can be fixed. Just ask your local bike shop to do the same as I did. 🙂👍🏻
I can’t recommend a new bike as I don’t do MTB, but I’d probably avoid carbon and my friend had a really good steel hard tail MTB that he loves. 🙂
All the best!
Reg.
@@reginaldscot165 thanks for the reply :)
Look for BB86 with a threaded bottom bracket. This way you will be safe from thread damage over time nad have better alignment then the crappy threading by the manufacturers.
Most companies today use pressfit bearings in their carbon frames.
Aluminum in a carbon frame has other disadvantages: electrochemical corrosion from the two materials, different thermal expansion.
What you describe can happen with all brands. For me, this is a one-sided representation, almost slander.
I did mention it’s almost all carbon frames. Also it’s only slander if it’s a false statement. Saying this bikes BB is misshapen is a fact. 🙂
@@reginaldscot165 It's about the headline. It's clearly one-sided.
Hi Reginald, thanks for your video. I would be interested in buying a Scott Foil 10 2017 or a SuperSix Evo Hi MOD 2013, but after your video I'm a bit worried😆. Should the Cannondale be more mechanically appealing? It's also a 400 km bike, but the Foil is modern and aero...
Forget both! (Although the Evo is better) Aero frames make basically no difference. Wheels and body makes a massive difference. So if you are young and want to go fast buy stiff aluminium and save the rest of the money for better wheels and aero kit!
If you want a better all round bike, but steel or titanium. Forgot carbon, I’m 38 and I regret all the money I wasted on carbon frames. I should have just bought titanium to begin with. 😁👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 Wow, I didn't expect this type of advise, especially in a world of carbon frames!! And also make me astonished know that aero frames do not make differences at all. I come from the '10 era of cycling, when I was 10 and race with bike was my sport, in this years I've lost some notions on new technologies.
For sure I will save up money for aero wheels, better if tested in wind gallery from brands who certificate that. Thanks for sharing us your experiences.
This is why Cannondale and Trek have abandoned the crap (multiple) push-fit BB standards and gone back to threaded
True. Never had any problems with my press fit, however that’s into a 2.mm thick titanium shell. 😉
Most companies today use pressfit bearings in their carbon frames.
Aluminum in a carbon frame has other disadvantages: electrochemical corrosion from the two materials, different thermal expansion.
My experience of Scott bikes has been the exact opposite. My current "main" bike is built around a 2012 CR1 SL frameset - bought pre-owned in 2017. Have never had an issue and its been a dream to build/ride/maintain. Have also ridden a Scott addict for a while, again no problems or issues with it whatsoever.
Well 1) you didn’t pay full price so the cost/value benefit is already way better. 2) you bought an older bike that was probably better made than the newer stuff. Also have you ever checked the BB? Is it a press fit and has it been checked for size? 🙂
I’m glad it’s working well for you and I wish you safe riding! 👍🏻🙂
@@reginaldscot165 it is a pressfit (bb92) and haven't actually needed to swap it out yet. It is older but Scott is still using the same carbon today as they were a decade ago. Aside from trend moving to more aero bikes with disc brakes and bigger tyre clearance I honestly don't think anything has changed.
Back in my time TITANIUM and CARBAN FIBER are toughest steel with out any complaints except for the price next to that is ALUMINUM, all this was in the late 80's.
From your review about SCOTT BICYCLES it made me not to go for it especially using plastic for over $1,000.00, hey I'm going with TREK BICYCLES or SPECIALIST BICYCLES.
And by seeing their ad's got me convinced that I should get a SCOTT BIKES 🚲
Thank you so much & hopefully people will see this.
You are welcome. 👍🏻
Giant is butter
Hello, could you please help about 2 bikes i have in my mind to buy.The first is a scott apsect 930 and the second one is a superior xc879.I dont know which one is better, i also dont know a lot about the superior brand.If you could help me i would appreciate it
I don’t buy any mainstream bikes and I don’t buy MTB so I can’t really give any advice.
If you were buying a road bike I could give some. 🙂👍🏻
I have Scott aspect 930
For last 3 years its going good I do good hardtail on it and roughly 5K per year
Are you Hambini's adult brother 😂? 8.4kg! how on earth did they manage to make this thing so heavy😲
Hambini and I have 1 or 2 things in common it’s true…
8.4kg is not unusual nowadays, most of the off the shelf carbon bikes in ultegra we get in for service are in the 8kg+ mark. It’s partly the frames and often the cheap wheels or bar/stems they come with as standard… having disc brakes doesn’t help.
@@reginaldscot165, I'm halfway through the video and after this cluster_phuque, I can't wait for the PowerPoint presentation ;-)
Why Scot wouldnt buy a Scott.
Correct 👍🏻
I had a solace 20 disc. Just purchaed the new Aero RC. 15k 2023. I want your opinion. Please.
SRAM RED Di2 Zip highest rim model
. Prefer Contential Grator Grip tires
You really Don’t want my opinion on your bike. 😅
Safe riding!
Helloooo, Hambini fans! Oh, stop, wrong channel 😁
Like him… but less unnecessary bad language. 😄
You could try applying a little heat to the frame before pressing the BB out and the new one back in. I'm not sure that Scott frames are any worse than any of the other brands that all use crappy Chinese manufacuring.
Yeah, all the big brands are much of a muchness. 🙂
Could you ream out the bb. I own a Scott USA as they used be called and I have had no problems considering it’s an old Mtb and the lightest in it’s day. But looking at todays Scott website and others they have doubled in price and are loaded with thinks that are of no benefit to your average rider.
Metal can be reamed easily but normally it’s not needed on metal BBs. The problem with carbon if you try to ream it is it would grab or snag and probably do damage. Sanding is much easier.
Now from what I have seen over the last few years if you want carbon you will need to dig deep in your pockets and spend upwards of 10000 dollars to buy quality carbon and not cheap carbon. The thing about Scott sports compared to when I bought my Scott USA is that Scott has been bought by a Chinese company and I noticed that all the components like handlebars and seatpost and saddle are all syncros which is there own brand. Where have mavic and raceface and Easton disappeared to.
@@reginaldscot165 Here in Ireland a good hard tail Scott bike will cost 12500 euros and if you by a lesser bike they fit them with rubbish components.
Couldn't the frame be sent back to Scott for a warranty replacement?
That depends on a long list of factors.
Hello regi.. between scoot addict 30, orbea m30 and giant tcr??
If you put a gun to my head TCR. But if I have a choice then non. Get a Ti or custom steel bike.
@@reginaldscot165 why a ti or steel??these companies got no quality carbon franes??
And if i go to Titanium.what choices??lynskey is good??
Wonder what the warranty is on this frame?
Good question
If this is a newish bike, why did your customer not return it under warranty?
Not sure, but I think because he didn’t buy it in this country…
It's a 2020 Scott Foil and would be under warranty. Issue with many bikes this day in age is 'Mail Order' and the cost/ inconvenience to return to the retailer. There is a lot to be said for buying from your LBS
@@ricksvic6062 Last time I bought from a local shop, I trusted them, gave my budget, and bought a bike that was too big for me, and 50% more expensive than the equivalent from a larger retailer like Decathlon (of course I only found it later)...
This time I chose to select it myself, taking more time to gather some information, measurements, etc.
Then I ordered it online. There are a few details I could complain about, not sure if a LBS would do anything, but at least it fits much better, and I have the bike I wanted, since I made my own decision about everything.
Do you have the same experience with Colnago?
Honestly I can’t remember, not worked on many. But if they have a BB86 press fit into carbon then it’s likely they won’t be perfect. 🤷🏻♂️
So, if you know that this "defect" happens to all brands why is the title straight up pointing at Scott as if they are the only brand to have this issue? Sure you're showing a Scott bike in the video but again, this happens during manufacturing and should be covered by warranty especially if it's within the warranty period. No brand in any market mass produces 100% perfect products 100% of the time. The title of the video should be "Manufacture defects on high end bikes beware"
Interesting point Sir.
However,
It definitely doesn’t happen with all Brand’s, only the ones that use press fit carbon BB shells and Scott and Giant are probably the most likely to make this mistake.
As for warranty, it’s very difficult to get. I had some bad experience with getting carbon manufacturers to uphold their warranty in the past.
My advice is avoid this sort of bike if you want to be free of this kind of problem. After all, they all seem to have misshapen BB shells to one extent or another… it’s just this one is particularly bad.
Thank you for your comment and safe riding! 🙂👍🏻
PS. The Title is perfectly accurate. I would never buy a Scott bike. Haven’t seen one made in the last 10 years I’d want to spend money on. I did see a 15 year old Scandium frame with a square taper BB and some classic Dura Ace on it once. That was nice.👌🏻
@@reginaldscot165 It does. Defects can occur with alloy, steel, titanium and carbon. Carbon is plastic so my guess is that it may be more prone to having warped during the curing process but either way, frame defects occur in every brand. From their very cheap models to their high end. Regardless, you agree that this is not a “Scott” only issue. My point I was trying to make was why did you single out Scott? The wording of the title: “Scott Bikes, why I would never buy one” Scott isn’t the only brand that produces carbon frames. They are not the only ones with imperfect BB’s.
As for warranty if the bike was bought through a bike shop take it back to them to handle the whole thing. If this bike was bought online then repeat the steps. If the bike was bought used second hand then yeah that’s a big problem. In the video you stated the bike was fairly new. So, my mind says “OK, don’t fix it yourself, contact Scott with proof of purchase”
@@liquidSpin It's not plastic. It's more akin to plywood. Actually I call all carbon fiber bikes plywood bikes.
@@rosomak8244 check your facts it's Play-Doh that's been dried out.
Scott bikes are junk. Poor fabrication quite often and silly prices. Only a complete idiot would pay the shill prices they ask for one of their garbage framesets. LOL
Could you make a tools tour and what brand do you recommend 😄
Sure, I have a wheels video coming up next but I can do that tour after. 👍🏻
Wow. Quality control is just disgraceful. I would ask for my money back. Really enjoyed your workmanship.
Thank you 🙏🏻
What would you buy then?
Good question. Take a look at some of my other videos, especially the one I did on “the worlds best performance road bike.” 😁
Man, I would have tried to warranty the thing. Titanium is looking better and better all the time..
Trust me, I have owned carbon, aluminium, aluminium mixed with carbon, steel and titanium. If I could only have 1, I’d choose Litespeed Titanium every time. 😁
@@reginaldscot165 I'm looking at getting a used litespeed. Some of the ones I'm finding in my area are from the 2000s. Would you recommend one of these or should I be looking for a newer model? Anything I should know or to look for in the older models?
@@al-du6lb Older is fine if it’s titanium it shouldn’t age. Just look out for cracks around welds and any dents.
If the frame looks good, it probably is. Ask the owner to get it checked if you can.
Just avoid the models that had carbon back triangles. Go for full titanium. 👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 Never understood carbon triangles. One of the reasons I'm buying titanium is to avoid using a frame with weak areas. Now carbon seatposts are fine; if they break they can easily be replaced with no impact on the frame.
Looks like you just have a bad bike frame there. I have several carbon frame bikes over 10 years and they get serviced every year. Never had a complaint from any workshop, all good. My Scott Addict is an amazing bike to ride too. I look forward to riding it every day it's so awesome.
Don’t you mean 2 bad Scott bike frames? In 1 video… and I have seen more, just didn’t record it. 🙂
@@reginaldscot165 I work in engineering manufacture, and understand you get variability, thus in your job you will obviously see some bad cases over time too, you must handle many bikes daily. I know most carbon frames are made in China and shipped to Taiwan for finishing, as is our client currently. They are hand made so you are bound to get some come through bad. But in terms of actual ride and handling, I have found Scott to ride brilliantly, stiff, handles really well. No complaints, and as I said I love it. Like going out in a new sports car. I guess I've been lucky to have good builds. You call them plastic in your video, which is a bit unfair. Carbon is a very strong and very versatile material. I'm actually working on a McLaren carbon bike frame as we speak, a new hardtail in development, so am involved with it's design and build. I will raise the issue you brought up with the bottom bracket in your video with my colleagues for ref. However the Hardtail bottom bracket is quite a bit different to a road bike lol. In fact as an after thought, your video here ought to be sent to Scott so they can investigate the poor manufacture issue you've found.
BB shells are almost always not perfectly round or accurate in length because most of the time they are molded, like you said. That's why Shimano make the cup in plastic so they can adapt to a non perfect shell. Token, Praxis Works and others also understood that the main point is not to complain about the not so well manufactured frames, but to find a solution to adapt.
The plastic BB doesn’t fix the problem (this video) more often than not it just hides it temporarily. The second part of your comment feels a bit like excepting poor quality products… if people stop complaining then there is zero incentive for manufacturers to improve. What we need is more people complaining or less people buying theses badly made carbon bikes.
Like me ☺️ 😂
what bike would you recommend in its place ? Similar to the same style.
I wouldn’t to be honest, I don’t buy carbon bikes. I like metal bikes, Particularly titanium. ❤️
@@reginaldscot165 What type of titanium bike brands do you like?
@@reginaldscot165 Are titanium bikes a little heavier than Carbon? I have a Kona road bike its a little heavy but I think the weight is perfect for the overall conditions here. I never owned a really light bike but it seems to me that in loose gravel or sand which is everywhere here a light bike would tend to give out from under and slide.
@@kovenant7 just check out some more of my videos on titanium bikes or subscribe to find out all the information you require. 👍🏻🙂
Giant propel
Why don't they just mold the CF onto a CNC'd inner steel sleeve ? Then cylindricity is guaranteed.
They could, but you still get problems with the bond between the metal and the carbon, and things move during the curing process.
This kind of molding isn't that problem free as you may think.
What's your opinion of carbon fiber forks?
Not as comfortable as steel forks. I’ve never tried titanium forks although I’d like to. Carbon is ok, as long as you check it regularly and it’s made by a manufacturer you trust. Also it’s best if it’s a tried and tested simple design, the newer ones with all the internal cables I don’t trust as much… (like the ones on the SL7 that keep snapping)
Finally, if you are in a crash, replace it. I crashed a bike a few years ago, the fork looked fine but I still replaced it, it’s not worth the risk.
@@reginaldscot165 Thanks for this. I knew you would have some insightful response. Very much appreciate your knowledge of bikes.
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I see brand new bikes with BB pressed in dry way to often
All the time…
Regi, seriously 2h - is that the first time you are replacing a bottom bracket?? All Shitmano plastik BB`s come out in million pieces 😅
That`s the standard these days and the everyday struggle in our bike workshops. Thanks to the marketing, influencers and everybody who wants to make bigger profits.
Normally they aren’t this bad! 😅 The “2 hours later” was for comic effect rather than being a accurate reflection of the time. 😘
But yes you speak the truth. 🙂👍🏻
Send the frame to hambini
He would have done the same as me, except he would have fitted his own brand of BB. 😉
Press fit is niot practical at all specially on carbon frame
Press fit is the best, on metal frames. 🙂
My own carbon frame is very practical with press fit bottom bracket. I don't see the point in having to deal with damaged threads on it.
This is a real problem. In this day and age, this shouldn't even be an issue, but as its from a major manufacturer, they should recoup or repair at no expense to the customers. I've never seen the interest in carbon fibre bikes, they're like blue ray discs, completly unnecessary. We've got excellent aluminium bikes, lightweight, durable, reliable, and a lot cheaper.
Agreed! 🙂👍🏻
I'm actually impressed with Scot. Who else could paint a dog turd and make it look so nice.
Unfortunately I’m not a fan of their painting. 😂
Generaly...a Aluminum BB should never be in a carbon Frame...al the alu Parts expand with temperatur...and Carbon didint!
see the proplem?
That is a problem in bonded BB shells, but not so much in press fit systems like this. But you are right, it’s 1 more reason why I don’t like carbon frames. 🤭
had a 2017 Pinarello Dogma F8 for 5 years full carbon bike and I did all my own maintenance. I never had one issue you mentioned with my bottom bracket. I was threaded BB so I think your blanket statement to avoid a carbon bike altogether is just biased and false.
It’s a generalised statement, but reflecting the raw data. On average carbon bikes are not only more prone to serious manufacturing defects like this but they also suffer more overall from damage and day to day use. So, you can argue “not all X is bad because… my personal experience.” But it’s not really an argument. It’s the same denial of reality and pattern recognition we see in the media. 🤷🏻♂️
PS. I’m very glad your bike is fine. 👍🏻
every bike manufacturer goes through poor quality control from time to time - inform factory rep and machine true and if cannot return to the factory for replacement
Especially carbon bikes…
I'm glad you're not working on my bike. Basically, that's called an interference fit to keep things nice and tight! No one should be able to push a bottom bracket in by hand! By sanding down the BB shell, you've ruined that frame. Now the bottom bracket doesn't fit tightly; it has room to move and cause creaking. Also, if the bottom bracket bearings seize, those cups will spin in the frame!
For the record, I've had two of the exact same models of this Scott Foil with zero bottom bracket issues. Align the cup and gently get it started by tapping it in with a mallet, make sure it's going in straight, and then get the BB press on it. Job sorted.
If and when you are removing the BB and it's tough to get out, remove the bearing from the plastic BB shell first. This releases the pressure off the cups pressed into the frame. Once the metal bearing is out, the plastic cups come straight out with very little trouble.
You are correct that now I have removed the high spots in the shell (that wasn’t round) the BB cup fits in easily. (It’s not ideal but it’s better than the previous situation.) But that is why I have opted for a screw type BB system. This way it won’t move or make any sound. It can’t move because the threaded cups are screwed together tightly against the frame. If there was any possible risk of movement you could use a retaining compound. It’s been several years since I did this service and I’m happy to report the BB Is running smoothly with no complaints from the customer. 🙂👍🏻
Bearings can move freely now where as before there was so much side pressure from the shell that the crank didn’t spin! In fact the spindle was just grinding against the ID of the bearings as they were fixed in place.
All this could have been prevented if the manufacturer had made the shell the correct size in the first place but unfortunately that is hard for them to do in carbon.
I’m glad you don’t have a problem with your frames, however as a bike mechanic is see way more frames than you and unfortunately many are faulty. Even after the metal bearings came out the cups were still very tight, this is NOT NORMAL. Normally the shimano BB can be removed from a frame without smashing it to bits. That should indicate how bad this situation was.
So you won’t buy a Scott. You made another video saying you won’t buy a Trek. You dislike carbon bikes in general, it seems.
So, modern technology is out. 2 of the best and most respected cycling brands are out.
It’s not hard to see you’re just trying to get likes and don’t really even like bikes.
Ha ha, we you got the first part right. Yes carbon frame bikes suck balls.
But thankfully there are much better bikes to choose from. 🙂👍🏻
Just get a Hambini BB.
Great… so now you have that what next? Because it cost 3x the price and won’t fix shit. 😂
You called carbon fiber Chinese plastic😂
Well, it’s a “plastic” of sorts and it’s made in China… 🤭
BS, it is made in Taiwan.
WTF you just pushed a PF bracket in by hand? Don`t you know the shell will come loose and eat up the frame? Congrats...
Did you notice that it’s screwed together and doesn’t move?
I did, but the thread is not supposed to hold the BB firmly together. The thread is an installation help and replaces your installation press.
I have never seen a mechanic doing this, what makes you believe this will hold? Do you use special grease or glue and what torque? What is the manufacters opinion on these BB`s and how much torque are you allowed/able to apply?
If you can drop a new PF BB in by hand, the frame is done - in my opinion (and it is likely to be a Trek or a Specialcrap)
Its going to come loose for sure. There is a reason for that pedals and BSA BB`s are reverse threaded in one side.
Ur name is Scot
Yup, 1 T however. 😁
Everyone is using that tool... stop. BB tool is the best tool. And there are so many possibilities to use it without slamming on a bike...
Correct! Since that video I have more tools. 🙂👍🏻
One word: Titanium
Two words: The Best. 👌🏻
Another word: welding may wrap things. You have not guarantee for precision unless the manufacturer takes care of it no matter which material.
So the title should be _Carbon Bikes and why I'd never buy one_ .
Well yes, but if I did that I can’t make like 14 other videos moaning about different brands of carbon bikes. 😉
@@reginaldscot165 ...but why pick on Scott - I have a Scott Addict and it's great - bottom bracket came out as sweet as a nut😊
Greatest argument against carbon fiber: Oceangate Titanic tour
One of them yes 🤦🏻♂️
@@reginaldscot165 what's your recommendation for light hybrid or gravel bike?
In Germany we say Schrott>>>Scott
🤪🤪🤪
so sieht es aus :D
Why don't you soften this crap up by applying some moderate heat?
That could work, but what do you suggest? Heat gun? Might damage the carbon? (Also don’t own one) Hair dryer? in the past I find applying heat quite difficult and dangerous. But if you have a good way to do it safely I’m very much open to suggestions! 🙂🙏🏻
@@reginaldscot165 I would stay away from a heat gun. Those are after all designed to take paint off for example. I use a cheap soldering heat gun. This will allow you to control the temperature. Between 60 and 80 deg should be safe. However a hair dryer will provide you with even more safety when it comes to overheating it. After all it's not designed to burn someone. Even 40-60 deg celsius will certainly make the resin a bit more giving. Another good idea is to soak it in some creeping fluid like WD40. Lubrication and some breaking of corrosive surface bounds (graphite on metal) won't hurt.
Doesnt work! Metal is exanding under Heat,,,,carbon dont
It is made in Taiwan.
Yes, Chinese plastic bike. 👍🏻
Only two brands are worth its money: LOOK and TIME, the rest frames are rubbish. Carbon fibre during the curing process (heating) changes its volume, so this has to be calculated by engineers a necessary additional material stretchng and /or expansion required. Experience brand shave no problem with this problem and quality control is tight.
Agreed, it’s just a lack of quality control and the fact people will still buy it even when it’s sub-standard.
Western brand fixation makes you overlook that fact that brand from the manufacturing country may those times provide far better quality for the money. LOOK TIME SCOTT SPECIALIZED - avoid them ALL. They are basically drop-shipping sellers.
@@rosomak8244 Bollox, Look & Time are the lick.
So Caleb Ewan wins so many sprints in a plastic Chinese frame...😂😂😂😂
Buy a steel bike man lol.
Or aluminium, or titanium. 🤭
gator lol
🙂
Made in usa 😂？
“China.”
@@reginaldscot165 no wonder mate
Somebody has got issues Scott's are the best bikes get a life
If you believe that you will believe anything. 🤣
Also: Go on then, prove it!
And: so you think the “best bikes” come with completely misshapen BB shells? 🤔
Scott bikes are overpriced overweight marketing overhyped bikes, very little value for money.
Yes I’m also not impressed.
Damn, Scott bikes are crap.
More or less. 😉
Scott bikes are overpriced...and rubbish!
Most bikes are nowadays. 😢
Yeah, I'm done with purchasing carbon bikes. My 2022 Scott Speedster 30 is aluminum and I LOVE it......
Good bike. 👍🏻
Scott bikes are pure junk. Silly prices for garbage poor quality fabbed frame sets. Total joke.
Agreed