Ford Mustang Shelby GT350 VS BMW M2 -TRACK REVIEW // One Track Mind Ep. 4
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2017
- We pit the GT350 against the M2 in a FULL TRACK TEST with drag races and lap times. These cars are closer than you think! Toronto Motorsports Park is the perfect place to test the limits of two very different cars.
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I'm glad everyone is getting so into this discussion. To clear up a few points for everyone: We chose the M2 with the DCT because with that option they come in at the same price here in Canada. The manual M2 is a big chunk cheaper, and then it would have lost and people would have called us out for it being unfair. Next, the reason the M2 won on the track was simply because of this type of track. Very twisty, very tight, lots of sharp corners. The wheelbase and size of the Mustang simply won't allow it to get through the tight stuff as well. On a bigger faster track the mustang would have had it for sure. Many have said that Colin looks like he's driving slowly and short shifting. I can assure you he is driving the tires off those two cars. He is just a very very smooth driver so it doesn't look very dramatic. He knows what he is doing though. He has many, many Autocross, Time Attack, and Karting victories to his name. Next, many have challenged the fact that I said the BMW is more refined and the Mustang is "cheap" feeling. Sadly thats the truth. The build quality of the M2 is far superior. Lastly, because this got such a good response, we are currently trying to put together the bigger brothers. The GT350R and the M4. Let me know what else you want to see! Thanks for watching.
E46 Reviews with T.H. N
E46 Reviews with T.H. because of this comment and its emphasis. I subscribed
E46 Reviews with T.H. i would like to See the M4, SS1LE and GT350 Track Pack on a more diverse track. Tight twisties and decent straights/sweepers
I think on a different track the gt350 would be at least a few seconds faster than the M2 considering the gt350R is quicker than the m4 gts. Did this mustang have the track pack? What shape were the tires in? Was the driving consuming large amounts of gold medicine earlier in the day? Honestly I love the M2 but since bmw abandoned na racing engines and ford had the balls to build the voodoo and put it in a track ready mustang, they get my vote.
Mustang has way more hp than BMW
I have to say, the GT-350 is one of the greatest things to come out of the USA. An absolute masterpiece.
When I watch these comparisons, I don't listen to the facts and data. I listen to the number of times that the host giggles. You giggled more when driving the 'stang.
Lol sold my mach 1 today and took the guy on a drive he couldn't stop giggling
tyson blankemeyer Now that’s how you compare cars nicely said 👌💯
Manual vs auto ...... Meh...
More hp vs less hp..... meh.....
Of course it will feel better
VRaziel lighten up
jimmysp4des oof.
Nothing better than a flat plain crank v8 sound at 8,000rpm. It's orgasmic
Bruh, it's called a flat-plane crank V8, it has a 180 degree angle between the crank throws. There's no such thing as flat plain crank v8.
@@vishalakula8451 relax dude, that's what he meant
Until it ends up in the shop
Q J and the bmw won’t?
8,250
Flat crank high rpm + manual + snake in front = EASY choice
BMW!!!
its a no brainer :)
@@MrDarkwar989 ok :)
@@MrDarkwar989 ... no
m2
"The Mustang just looks like it wants to beat your over the head with your own legs!" Awesome description.
@Andrew Tra Who the fuck cares about anyone's opinion of purchases?
@Andrew Tra wtf kinda salty comment is that? And the M2 doesn’t just scream that you wear flip flops with blue jeans, a polo that’s too tight, and gelled hair? GTFOH
@Andrew Tra wtf u high bro?
@Andrew Tra honestly, can’t believe you haven’t deleted your reckless comment.lol
Like both cars, but if I ever win the lottery first thing I'm buying is a GT350
Dont forget to pick up a gt500 too
Don’t forget they are all ass hell cat will smoke them all and a demon
NoHurts around a track? No
NoHurts they are ass? Lol are you fr bro or just the bored you have to troll
Make sure there's an r at the end lol
Two VERY different realms here. I love it. The M cars are always sleek and unsuspecting. You see them on the road and your first thoughts are "That looks a bit meaner than a normal bimmer. What's with those sharp mirrors? Can I take this thing??" But when you see a GT350 out on the road you are immediately intimidated by it. The snake emblem is obvious, it sits low and when you hear that voodoo gurgle past you your brain says "I definitely cannot take this thing." Both cars are dangerous and will smoke you if you're not ready but the energy they give off is worlds apart. Great comparison!
This comment is beautiful haha
@@westonmoore3914 Thanks man 😂👌
You know what I love BMWs but you so right lol.
Basically
GT350 = Broli. Big, loud, and scary
M series = Frieza’s final form. Elegant and reserved but deadly
@@thedoomslayer2468 Have a thumbs up, sir. DBZ is my love language 😂.
Shelby really knows how to make American cars go around corners, really impressive
shelby had nothing to do with it. all Ford Performance division
@@Pigpen76 no.
@@Pigpen76 nope
@@Pigpen76 yea Brody it most definitely is Shelby
@@nyckae8587 No he's right, the newest GT350 has Shelby only as a nameplate. It's all developed by Ford
To be honest...you're gonna have a good time in either vehicle!
Only decent comment in this thread
Yes, comments are full of people who can't afford either. When it comes down to spending 50K+ people decide based on their brand preference, the deal they are getting, the example of the car being shown and the test drive. Nobody buys one over the other because of a 1.2s difference on a track test on youtube. At the end of the day buying a sports car is an emotional decision when it comes to it. A lot of thinking may happen before but nobody could ever spend their hard earned cash for a car their heart is not in, numbers don't come into it, it's how the numbers feel like.
Thanks god we have at least one good person in the town. You saved us from divine punishment.
Thank you. You have lighted up this stupid comments section.
But which one would you have a better time in on a long drive to work or a road trip to a neighboring state? Most people will never see a track.
Drives the BMW and compliments it on road-holding, interior etc.
.
Switches to the Mustang and immediately has a huge grin on his face.
Says it all.
Nico Meier mustang also had a manual
Lmao, true!
Viceral
BMW looks better and can come in Manuel. Butthurt Stang fanbois make me laugh
@@brandont7214 it did not take it on looks, and your the Beamer fanboy because your complaining about losing this comparison
Before James was born
the sheer difference between the videos from back then and now on this channel is just crazy
The sound of any mustang just makes me smile. I don't know how.
The mustang took over the drag strip except for the first time when things didn't go as planned.
yezzsirrrr
u are a true mustang lover i see :D
me too.
@@HEATHENS5074 💯🤜🤛
@@avinavpradhan3829 🔥🔥🔥
@@HEATHENS5074 liquql
Currently I own a F10 M5 and a week ago I bought a GT350. It’s hard to make choices between these two cars as they are so different. After driving the GT350 for a week I think it is a very well built vehicle with massive raw power and tremendous sound. I normally don’t attract any attention when I drive M5, but a lot when I am in the GT350. It is just an awesome car.
Not attracting attention is why I loved older BMWs. 👌🏾
"It's like there's five Miatas under the hood!" Love enthusiastic reviewers, a joy to watch, cheers
James needs to come back and wath this video in 2024 🤣
Came back to watch one of the older vids and honestly I have to say, without comparing it to the newer ones, this is still pretty good. Glad you picked up James what an awesome duo
The smile on his face while driving the GT350 says it all. I have the same stupid smile on my face every time I drive mine. :)
This video helped influence me into buying a GT350. Thanks for posting.
6MT V8 how is it for daily use?
You Tried life’s too short to worry about gas prices bro lol
Same here love mine!
@@jamiecoe6952 picking mine up tomorrow!
You can't go wrong with a GT 350!
I can't wait to get a GT350... Oh wait, I did. Its Fantastic
Mines is on the way
Congratulations! A GT350 is the way to go for endless fun.
My dad just got the gt350r
@@paxtonulrich7673 but will he let you drive it?
Jeff Fleischman Yeah bro, I get to drive it this weekend, I’m so excited
That 'sh*t eating grin' is priceless. I will own a GT350 one day.
yez sir..i would love to own one myself
Lol that smile he had at the beginning with the Mustang tho. That’s what’s up! You want a car that makes you smile every time you step on the gas.
He had a much bigger smile driving the mustang... Mustang wins imo.
Blob bad takes are bad
@Blob still more fun and attention grabbing than a bmw will ever be.
Are you kidding me? A family friendly muscle car is the perfect compromise.
I’m i the only one who fast forward to when the stang comes out ? lol
idk why youd do that and miss the greatness of the m2 review too
Me too!
The cheap plastic helps keep
the Mustang affordable relative to similarly powered European competition. Why does everyone not get that?
I have owned 8 stangs and over years that plastic interior holds up very well compared to other interiors with soft materials. My 94 Gt was 20 years old and the interior looked very good, my two 03 Mach 1’s , 03 Cobra , 68 stang, and my 2012 Boss interiors all look good years later. Presently, my 2017 Gt 350 interior looks pretty good to me and I expect it to wear very well as the years add up. Great comment.
William Jordan We don’t buy a mustang for the fancy interior..
@@mustangsally366 They had to drop down to the 2 series to compare the two. Heh!
Pretty much. Price to performance Mustangs beat almost all German cars out there.
@@mustangsally366 Obviously.
The Mustang has my heart --- always. I'd love to see a review on the Shelby GT500.
0:44 that fender gap😂
Awesome video man. For the head to head though, I'd find it much easier to follow both simultaneously if vertically they were at the same height and in the middle of the screen and if one changes to a different camera angle at a certain part of the track and the other clip did the same It would be much easier to see the time split.
Other than that I have nothing to add. Your production value far exceededs your channel's traffic, keep it up.
+Ethanmeister thanks for the feedback. Yea we are trying that style out to see what people say. I'll eventually land on a method I like for the lap times
Very, very well done. Thanks for a great video! Looking forward to more.
This was one fun video to watch and the fact that you did the quarter mile more than once was awesome
Which so ever car comes, Mustang has a seperate fan base❤️
Made of retards
@@AmericanBusinessman422 Bruh I spit out my drink
Nicely done - think you did a great job getting to essence of both cars.
The Mustang made you smile way more. End of story.
Not as much as big jacked-up Jeep at a tailgating party!
Yep
There are people that like mustangs because of how they make you feel and then there are people that haven't driven one.
Except when you wanna slide some curves M2 is way better
lol dont compare this fart I6 to V8,new BMWs are lame and their sound gettint more worse...
I need to see the 2020 GT 350R now sharing the same GT500 set up against the M2 Competition. Both in manual, make it happen you two!
You did a really great job on this video. Smart, funny, but never irritating. Great sound, good vocal tone, good sound for the cars. Subcribed!
The sixth gen Mustang is actually extraordinarily comfortable. I'm a BMW enthusiast with a 540i and the new Mustang, and I can say that Ford has produced a veritable contender with this vehicle, in performance, comfort and features. I've personally driven the new Mustang across the entire United States on a single trip, and there is nothing about the interior which merits a single complaint. Of course, my BMW has some finer touches, but the comforts of both are simply premium. All talk beyond that is superfluous and merely hot air to fill the void.
I would love to be able to drive either of these cars! Awesome you have been able to take the gt350 on a long trip!
@@JS-nd1poI've taken my gt350 on 11 hour road trips and back twice now no problem very comfy
You drove the Shelby like an old lady
Granny shifting.. Not double clutching like he should! Smh...
@@614XJ double clutching is retarded
Pretty sure Double Clutching is pointless on modern transmissions. Heel-toe too, as Mustangs have Rev matching too.
Max Waters I wish it has, makes life much easier
Typical millennial trying to shift manually. 🤭
This was a hoot to watch, so well done, thanks.
The M2 after warranty will be what Scotty Kilmer terms: "Endless Money Pit".
hahaha, but the mustang is dog with fuel just easy = get a corolla
FEGTTTSDH who the fuck cares about fuel we’re talking about performance cars XD
I own a 135i with dct. It likes constant attention and money, but is a great track car.
YOU BET!!!
@@FEGTTTSDH -- this is not the review for you. Just get a Corolla?
YIKES! Why so practical???
Damn that body panel fitment though 0:45
Billcivivs FF yeah, it’s not great is it...
Built by Tesla?
@@UltimaRSfan its not that bad
I am a beemer guy, but I will also take GT350. That Sound is just phenomenal! Not sure if it is the age factor, but the GT350 is heck of a car for the money.
bro you should review everything, very professional review, you mention all the right things
The license plate on the mustang 😂
I think the m2 would beat the m4 around that track as well. the m2 seemed well suited for that track
"It sounds like freedom!" That's right, welcome to america my friend.
America is rigged.
+HeHoZy Haha, yeah I guess...and like a lot of things American, there's gotta be significant collateral damage. Shit, just think of how you feel 10 minutes after eating a Big Mac!!
I your an american, And you think your free in America, Your a goddamned fool.
+Dre Ray It's a quaint notion though. I can see why some people cling to it.
Nathaniel H welcome to Euro Son!😂😂
GT350 looks better and sounds better! I’ll take the GT350.
Flyingaceful where will this two cars be in 20 years.....
@@mustangsally366 This Mustang is definitely gonna be a legend for years to come and go down as one of the best Mustangs in history. Since BMW's don't have any soul anymore, these new ones are definitely going to the scrapyard.
@@mustangsally366 I think the M2 won't be anything much and will be just another //M car that is affordable that any kid could buy it. The GT350 has all the options to make it a classic car. GT350 is currently holding its value better than the M2.
Ride Catch 50 years from where will these two cars be?
go get yourself some glasses son
I love match-up, & great interview personality.
You look like the Canadian version of the guy from vehicle virgin.
Without the annoying voice though!
Eric Klepadlo no... No no no... No no no... Not ever...
💯
Disrespectful....
equally punchable face
Not a fan of V8’s? WTF? No wonder he couldn’t hustle it.
Sounds like he has taken in too much soy
Gman best comment! Haha. These guys are BMW fans.
@@guffinator70 lmao, true
If you like to go around corners fast, then two less cylinders is ideal, as the results showed.
@@paulvicks1336 not really. Mustang was only .3 longer lap time and if they compared like cars they would have had a manual transmission in the BMW. The BMW also has more refined suspension/drivetrain/steering setup. That test didn't prove that 2 less cylinders are better for fast turns. Besides .3secs despite all that.
Both Cars are fun in their own ways. This was a great review. The 350 was one of the cars I was considering, but for me the M2 was the more enjoyable option. My other considerations were the Porsche Cayman S and the Challenger Hellcat. Ultimately went with the M2C and didn't regret my decision.
0:44 that difference on the door line smh
Are you saying the body panels don't line up?
Jason Brown yes there’s a difference
@@ahmedLibyan Thought so.
Only OCD peeps care about panel gaps, 😆 🤣
id argue the new mustangs are more sports car thn muscle cars :/ not that thats a bad thing, theyre fucking awesome
+BlaRaRa33 actually it's technically a pony car. But saying that would raise more questions than answer them for people.
Fisher price toy is actually high quality toy
nosagni divad lol
nosagni divad haha
What is it with these german car guys about refinement and plastic? I have been in plenty of these cars and believe it or not; all cars have a lot of plastic. I don't get it why American cars are the only one's that are publicly disgraced with this material. Honestly it makes their arguments hollow.
It's the finish of the plastic that is the sticking point. BMW makes plastic with highly refined finishes that makes it look like wood, carbon fiber, stainless steel, etc, and they also use other materials liberally such as alcantara and leather. Meanwhile, when American manufacturers use plastic, they don't go to any significant lengths to disguise it as anything other than cheap-looking and cheap-feeling plastic.
That's why American manufacturers get rakes over the coals over plastic. Because it's clearly PLASTIC which screams 'CHEAP', even to the untrained eye. It's lack of attention to detail = low quality, but in the case of the Mustangs, Ford tries to make up for it by putting their attention on their version of 'performance' of the vehicle. When everything comes out in the wash, these two cars are like day and night. You really can't compare them because they are so different going all the way back to the design stage.
No.1 who the hell cares when you've got a 5.2 liter flat plane crank screaming to 8250 rpms with 526hp. If I wanted luxury I wouldn't buy a bmw or a mustang.
I own and love my a 2018 M2 with DCT. Great video, I think you nailed the personalities and advantages of both cars. Which one makes you feel better wins....period.
James Mason m2 is just better
your style of reviewing cars is my favorite. Keep making videos
Try that again with a 2019/2020 GT350 with the Michelin Sport Cup 2’s, and the revised magnetorheological dampers/spring rates, and revised aero. Pretty sure the 0.4 s would be more than overcome.
Ok then put on the cup 2's on the BMW too then. The whole point is to compare cars. Not compare the difference tyres make
@@supaahflyy or put the M2 CS against it
try with the M2 CS instead
I’ll take my flat plain crank V8
I'll take a flat plane crank instead :-P
i’ll take a fat plain skank instead
@realone5 real The M2 has a 405HP 3.0 Liter TwinPower turbo i6, is lighter, and has a limited slip dif. The GT350 has so much raw power, but you just can't top German engineering imo
@Michael 02 American cars are just too big, too high, too heavy, can't handle as well as the smaller cars and handling is where the gains have been made over the last several years. The Ford is one of the best Mustangs in decades, but it's still not quite there.
j rex you mean a flat plane crank boi
Mustang is always a cool stuff. I love it.
Wait, someone would actually choose the m2 over the GT350?
Yeah real men
@@thecommentwith0likes by "men," do you mean "women?"
@@JohnSmith-ot7iy by women do you mean transvestites?
@@thecommentwith0likes sure, those too.. just not actual men.
@@thecommentwith0likes the M2 looks like a car for beta males
Why are people surprised that the track numbers are similar? it's a tiny little track with no long straights and a big mustang vs a small light coupe.
No long straights? There are two massive straights.
Massive straights that he never even hit fourth gear on.. not massive lol
8:48 visible eargasm :D
I liked your closing argument "everything that happens after 6000 rpm" made a lot of sense.
I'd love them to do a comparison with the new 2019 Mustang GT w/PP2. Just curious to see how PP2 compares to the BMW's on the track.
or even the Bullitt Mustang ...
M2 absolutely held its ground fairly well while having much less hp. The M4 is a different monster
except it isnt!
@@TurboVisBits the M2 competition is better I would imagine.
@@TurboVisBits 445hp on the base model and almost half a ton lighter than a the 350... Yeah, it is
I think it's a rather unfair comparison in a tight and anemic track such as this that favors a shorter wheelbase and has no bearing on most kinds of real tracks and also street performance. The GT350 has better lateral grip and if they were in a real open track it would've embarassed the M2 quite handily, and has all the time. You can look up track times on tons of famous tracks with the GT350 being several seconds faster
@@weasle2904 and this gt350 isn't even the r lol
anyone else notice at 0:44 that the body panel line and the door panel line on the gt350 is misaligned. Kind of bothers me considering its cost.
e34life 95 @1:09 the fender and door are misaligned on the m2...
That was an awesome video!
Great video, appreciate the dual screen
Great video and awesome comparison! But definitely felt like the driver was sandbagging the GT350 during the lap times. I’d choose the Shelby either way. 🤘🏼 #merica
Yes, they seem to do that a lot. Don't want to hurt the B'mer boys feelings.
I'll always choose the Mustang.
I've seen enough Bimmer-Stang race videos to see the Stang just isn't good enough to be on a Bimmer's level
BMW M2 Laguna Seca time is 1:40.88, GT350 Laguna Seca time is 1:36.83
@@mcoeif ur wrong..
They give you the flappy paddles after seeing the money shift?
+tangles lol. Guess so.
That was a great show - Thanx. Time well spent...
That eye-roll at 8:48-8:52...You can't fake that enthusiasm. Heart reacts only.
The m2 is definitely the best M car. However, I think I would rather have the gt350. Ford didn't just make a good performance car out of the gt350, but made a great drivers car. High rpm, great manual gearbox, and the BEST sounding v8 in the past decade. I also found this comparison a bit unfair with auto vs manual. Both great drivers cars.
The track and drag strip times differences were very small between the two cars however as a daily driver,the M2 seems a better proposition .
+BMWPower I agree. But being a guy that drives on the track a lot, I would have to really talk myself out of that gt350
Yep,track work would make the Mustang the most likely choice............. until the M2 CSL version comes out,but that will be a comparison for another day. :)
BMWPower oh yeah until shit starts to break down in that over priced euro shitbox.
You cannot say so these days.The recent 2018 GT Mustang has had engine problems and the manual transmission has had trouble with its shift forks.Although I believe that
the transmission problem has been solved
"It just sounds like Freedom"! Welcome to Murica my friend. Awesome commentary, all joking aside.
What happened to the shelby gt350r vs the m4???
The I'm not a huge v8 fan made me leave lol
Eric Wood 😅😅😅😅 lmao AGREED.
Yeah. Lost all credibility at that point.
Seriously, from muscle V8s, to turbo V8s, SC V8s, to flat plane crank ones, who the fuck doesn't like at least one of these.
I'm the same idk they're just meh to me
Don’t like v8s because they aren’t as smooth... as what? The more cylinders you have the smoother an engine gets 😂
I think I'd choose the M2 as well. It's just such a perfect little car. It's so well balanced, has just the right amount of power, and handles like a dream.
The mustang is kind of an unsophisticated Billy Ray Cyrus mobile. The BMW is class, pretentious sophistication and it's better than you. Now which stereotype do you want to be associated with? I would rather be the sharp dressed professional ass wipe in the BMW then the wife beater trailer park domestic beer drinking Def Leppard listening high School janitor. If I didn't care what people thought about me I'd buy the mustang. There's nothing wrong with either one they just both come with a s***** stereotype. It could be worse you could be a big dumb meat head bro dude super Chad covered in ax body spray and tribal armband tattoos in a WRX.
The M2 is a better car. Classier, better built, much nicer interior, more premium feeling product. The Mustang is the typical American big fat and ugly car not practical or worthwhile anywhere outside of North America. The M2 works everywhere.
@@pgr3290 The Mustang is about the same size. It's heavier but that's because it's properly built and won't spontaneously disassemble itself at year 11. The Mustang has maybe 5 cm in every direction on the M2.
@@ravenwing199 "The Mustang has maybe 5 cm in every direction on the M2." The Mustang is 12 inches longer than an M2. An entire foot. That's 30 centimetres. In the 2021 JD Power reliability survey which looked at 3 year old models from 32 brands (The 2017-2018 model years tested here) BMW came 11th in the survey, above the industry average. Ford came 22nd, below the average. You're welcome for the fact checks.
@@ravenwing199 wild statement, ford is literally known to be unreliable and always comes lower in reliability than bmw🤣
I'm totally a BMW guy, I have 2. But I must say in recent years American muscle cars really stepped back in the game, the mustang looks beautiful and mean, so are cameros and charger and challenger with the old school look, very appealing. Vettes and vipers are always amazing to me.
You guys have done a really good job with this channel. Reminds me of old top great
What an awesome set of cars. I'd love to have both, but if i had to choose, i'd get a manual M2.
The M2 will cost 3 times as much to repair for simple stuff.
Car Club Auto costs just as much to fix a gt350 in anything
bmw is just garbage car, any other german cars will do, except bmw, audi are amazing, mercedes benz a whole lot of features to be amazing, but Bmw, sorry to say, its for people doesnt know shit about cars, expecially m4. Ok, how about i say it in another way, people that buys M4 does not know shit about cars, they dont care anything else, all they cares is about the car, thats why they would buy it.
i remember few years ago there is this m4 post on instagram saying that m4 has the best twin turbo engine or something(i forgot most of it), and everyone comment below with: 2JZ, if u dont know what it is search it up.
@@dreeary9475 so tell me what's so bad about BMW if you know so much about German cars
@@dreeary9475 we know shit about the 2JZ I think nearly everybody knows jackshit about it we are not dumbasses
Awesome review
I agree with your closing comment. Also, the iconic rep of a Shelby over an "M" resonates far more with me.
I work on gt 350's and 350r's. Pretty fun cars if you know how to drive them. Harder to buy than a m2
*CTS-V vs. M2 & M3*. I heard short shifting. My Camaro SS revs high so I can tell the higher rev Mustang wasn't working very hard for that engine.
the M2 is similar to the M1. The M3 is the bigger brother.
For me, you're one out of three RUclips car reviewers that go far and beyond with what they/you do. I'm totally loving the way of you presenting and reviewing the cars of your choice. Mostly put in a little story...great.
And then you actually put the vehicles on track and giving them throttle.
Even being a German though, I'd always take the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350(R) over any BMW. Because it's pure, straight high reving V8 power wonderfully balanced coming with a price tag that should be putting a smile on every car enthusiast's face.
"The exaust is not exactly lighting my pants on fire@4:15 he looks in his lap as if to make sure LMAO.
still think the e92 M3 is the best M car overall, that sound is unforgettable
Phillip Berk, It is in every way. It's also the few BMW that held its value well.
Phillip Berk loo the gt350 sounds way better that pos inline crap 😅
I seems you're so unlucky to have not experienced the sound of the engine he's referring to. So, you have a GT350? Cause I don't but have heard only two in real life. Sounds loud and grunty but it's very different than a BMW inline. I wouldn't call it better, just louder. I've heard plenty of pushrod V8's that sound excellent however (Ford and Chevy).
Steve Quantie actually idk about louder, I had borla ataks on my E92 with headers, and it was one of the loudest cars I've ever owned and that thing had mufflers, and 4 sets of resonators
Referring to the comparison stock. Oh yeah, cars can get about as loud as you can legally take em.
6:10 this was me 1 month ago when i bought mine :)
Congrats!
It sounds like freeeeeedddddooooommm!!!!
yea man congrats on your car, how is it going with the mustang
I miss my 02 mustang gt, it couldn't hold a candle to these cars but whenever I started her up and I heard her engine rumble it put a smile on my face.
Never been a Mustang fan, even though they have improved dramatically over the years. I do love the symphony coming from under the hood though. There's just no beating the driving experience of a BMW.. not only as a daily driver, but especially through twisty mtn roads.
I am not really surprised that M2 won the road course. Germans always underrate the horsepower. I won't surprised that M2 actually makes 360 horsepower at the wheel. And M2 has a DCT. GT350 is not the best performer mostly hurt by its weight. But man, GT350 is just way more exciting than the M2. Where can you find another V8 rev to 8000+ rpm now days? And it is almost an exotic in someway. Maybe that was why I bought one. You know why I don't care about the plastic interior? Cause when I put my foot down, all those shit go away.
Isn't the Mustang less than 200 lbs heavier? The extra 140+ HP should have made up for the weight difference. (Mustang curb was 3655 if I recall, compared to BMW's 3500ish)
I agree completely about the 8K rpm V8... and I own an M2 :-)
Jason Jorgensen My GT350 with both track and tech pack weight just under 3800 lb.. They try to save weight but there are many chassis reenforcement and also wide body. 300 lb. is a lot weight lol.
Jinge Liu we bought one to, I love the car
They weight near the same.
Actually they know how to make cars...they know that a sport car is not just a big engine with awful build quality actually
How do you drive that slow with a shelby gt350? I've seen ones go faster than that on Eglington at peak rush our
Because it's slow car. Especially compared to a bimmer.
I own a GT350. You don’t even need to go fast in this car. Driving slow with the exhaust valve open and hearing it burble/ backfire is probably the best thing I have experienced driving since I was 16 😁
I own a 2016 GT350, and I have a built 2010 335i. The GT 350 is stock, except for a pair of oil separators. The BMW has full M suspension, running Michelin Pilot Sports, and the engine is pushing 480 HP, with full mods.
The BMW is much easier to drive quickly in canyons, but the sound of the Mustang and the attention it gets is amazing. The cars are so different, yet in ways very similar.
Love my 2017 M2. Sold my 2017 Mustang GT (manual) to get it. Good comparo, but the BMW road feel and turn in as well as the fit and finish put the M2 way ahead for me. That flat plane crank though makes up for all of the 5.0's mediocrity and can see why its a game changer for some. Nice job guys, keep up the good work.
I love the GT350. Just bought one
damn i would love to own one myself
Nice cars nice review thank you
For drag races, you should change the driver's too so it removes any driver bias and gives us a better idea of how driving style, experience, and prowess can affect our performance with the car (if that makes sense)