I’ve got a 350 and this video went exactly the way that I thought. The Shelbys max torque happens really late, like 4,000 rpm, and the power builds pretty linearly through the rev range. As such it’s pretty ordinary down low and will be embarrassed by a lot of lesser vehicles from a dig. But from a roll, it’s an animal.
I absolutely love both vehicles. The sound of that Shelby is something else to behold, but that M4 is awesome on so many levels too. Literally don't know which one I would pick if I were to buy one of these two amazing vehicles. Thanks Sam, love your channel!
@@blackice214 Can you post out of curiosity. The 500 not good out of the hole but the top end is prob. good. What I like on the GT350 is the relatively smooth and BULLETPROOF manual tranny which might be one of the best out there - as opposed to the 5.0 manual, and really all others.
I feel like even though the 350 isn't a drag racer, we need a driver mod on the 350 to get that thing launched. He's bogging it and by the time it crawls out of the hole that M4 is gone. We can see the 350 is actually faster with the roll races but those launches are abysmal
I knew he would win the roll cause while you were shifting he still has nearly 2000rpm more to climb plus the slight hp advantage but they say the German engineering is miles ahead and you had turbos so the 350 is by no means slow great race bro
BMW had to make a choice based on power range vs TQ, when they sized those twin turbos. Large turbos will make big power -only after they spool up OR they could use smaller to bring in available TQ down lower in the rev range. The usual compromise is twin / smaller, but duel turbos, 6 cylinders have strong tQ by design (that's why 6 cylinders are so often used in trucks)....which is what they probably combined them 6cyl and turbos... made a perfect combination). Ford did the same...to make the power plant to power the explorer police vehicles.... V6 / twin turbos... Ford engineers are pretty good too.
@@JustinAEgan yea and maybe a gt350 with the dct 7 speed and launch control would probably help a little bit now I'm v8 mustang all day and night but I do wonder how the 3.5 high output Ecoboost hasn't been added as an option for this car with that raptor tq. and new exhaust I'd actually like to see one and I wouldn't mind a Barra option either lol
Not even going to lie. I used to doubt the production quality and content of this channel. It has come so far and is a MUST watch every time you post. Good job Sam and keep up the great work as this channel WILL be at 1mil in 3-5 years time.
That’s what I thought he either missed a shift or just didn’t know how to properly launch I know that 350 Would’ve stayed even or a bit in front , but the M4 still a cool car
@@ericknava9627 Definitely not a driver issue. 350 is not a 1/4 mile car and no driver is going to make it one. 1/4 is the only place the BMW can keep up, though.
The engine on the GT350 is something special. If 1st gear was shorter in the shelby, it would take off the line way better. A lot of shelby owners dont know how to properly launch the car and it shows because you see how bad it bogs each race. Also the M4 got the jump each time. When it comes to roll racing, that NA Shelby is so sweet It’s my dream car to own one day.
That's just normal, I've only seen one person know how to launch a mustang in general. It's sad but it's "cheaper power" so people buy it without having any actual skill driving. Still sounds good so even if u suck at driving the experience is 🔥
@@G82Watts Whats embarrassing is how plain looking that M4 is for what you pay. Its a great car and fast for sure but looks just like a regular 4 series.
I was such a fan of the DCT in the old m4 and the auto in the new ones, however something seems so extremely satisfying about rowing gears in an M car. Literally my two favorite sports cars in this vid
The flat plane crank v8 in the Ford doesn't have the low end torque that the TT I6 in the BMW has. Most mustangs of the S550 platform can't launch for shit unless it's on a prepped surface with the right tire whereas this new G80/G82 M3/M4 has a better ability to put that power down from a standstill.
Very competitive. The results from the roll race makes me wonder if the Mustang was struggling to get off the line during the drag race. Possible traction issues?
Mustang runs Michelin pilot super sports from factory, they suck for drag racing it needs better tires to put down all that power how do I know, I have a 760 HP Camaro and have ran multiple tires
The bmw turbo low end torque push the bmw from start the mustang is n/@ means he got the torque and power on high thats why on roll the n/a engine have much better reaction because he already in the powerband.
Sam this is the first video of yours I've seen. I absolutely loved it. Reason? Little talking, no unnecessary verbal filler just to extend the video, no stupid irritating music, it was just pure racing. You did exactly what you briefly stated at the beginning-----and no B.S. 2 Thumbs up!!!
That flat plane v8 has some wicked top end and crazy urgency! Considering that M4 probably makes like 540hp since BMW always lies about their hp. It pulled pretty hard
A manual BMW doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me the thing basically drives itself down the road you're sitting there in luxury and then it's like hey user/driver you got to do this really important thing..... slower then the model with a DCT.
The mustang would’ve beat you from a dig if he knew how to drive the car. Every time he used launch control it landed flat on its face. If he would’ve raced you without launch control he would’ve beat you every time.
Yep, I own a GT350R, you have to have launch control set to at minimum 4800 rpm any lower and it bogs, it needs the wheelspin because the torque isn't your typical down low torque. Get the tires spinning just a little and the car leaves way harder than this shows. His rolls he is also down too low in the RPM, he should be starting his rolls at 5500rpm.
Mustang needed a better launch, warming up tires launching at different rpms. Car bogged off the line both times. Funny how the GT350 a 6 + year old platform smokes the all new 2021 m4 lol.
It smoked the m4 where it really matters,from a roll and it would absolutely destroy it around the track.The m4 isnt a bad car,just not on the level of the 350 and this comes from a guy who usually hate ford product but the 350 is just a masterpiece.
Why? The GT350 can barely hold off a lowly Camaro SS. 8000+ RPM and no VVL in a 3,800 lb car is a bit of a dog. Ford should have put Voodoo $$$ into the Coyote (i.e., VVL, etc.), which would have paid dividends across all of Ford.
@@pope9349 It barely beat the m4 in the roll by not even half a car length and that's without tune. Also, m4 comp does Nürburgring in 7:30 vs GT350R in 7:32, so don't always assume without real data.
@@nikolayk.3670 lmao number based keyboard warriors 😂 bruh I’m just stating the facts on paper. Obviously the gt350 is more of an experience with the tremec 6 speed and the screaming high rev voodoo.
@@MikeyG003 gt350 is 5-year old design car. Comparison with g82 isn't "fair", it was made to be on par with f82, which gt350 eating easily. Moreover, times on nurburgring without all context (tires,drivers,etc.) isn't good comparison as well. And GT350R doesn't have official record of a lap time, it's not legit, though I think 7.32 isn't hard task for it. G82 is incredible car by no means (except the looks, this is just horrendous cheap looking fat crap).
Listen to that vodoo engine.The 350 is the better car anyways,drag racing means aboslutely nothing.The 350 smokes it around the track where it really matters.this comes from a guy who usually hate ford product but the 350 is just a masterpiece.
I don't think Shelby driver knows to to launch it properly. You can tell by the sound of the engine. Shifts too early out of 1st every time. Rolling start proved it.
It's pretty obvious that the Shelby owner does not know how to launch his car. He should be slipping the clutch instead of using launch control. The only thing he accomplished in those 2 dig races was showing how badly the car bogs down when using launch control in these cars.
hmmm, that Shelby wasn't getting off the line properly. You can even see the guy on the track bury his face in his hands in dismay at the Shelby's start. 3:47
The only thing I don't agree with in the video is when he claims to have only lost by a little but then claims he got the gt350 by a lot. You can clearly see in the video it was very close on both sides during the digs and roll races.
The GT350 was bogging out on the launches. I'm thinking if the driver would have known how to get out of the hole better the 350 would have won those races also. The 350 puts out more HP and torque than the M4.
The launch of the m4 is immaculate, the gt350 took the roll due to higher revving engine, you can see the m4 lose almost a whole car length when he shifts while the Shelby is still pushing the same gear . Both amazing cars
I knew in the roll race the higher revving GT350 would hit its stride and win. The M4 wins from the dig because of its low down grunt. Overall, I’ll take that GT350 all day every day. That GT350 is making music. Puts the M4 to shame.
I have to go with the Shelby,…it’s that amazing sound! Either car is one helluva machine and you cannot go wrong with either. I just love that Shelby high revving voodoo engine!!!
The advantage of the GT350 in a Roll comes from gearing and a higher red line. The advantage from a dig on the M3 comes from low end torque and the ability to put the power down. I can’t launch my S550 anywhere but on a prep surface. Can’t wait to get my allocation for a M3 X drive for roll races and 1/2 mile events.
@@alexk3469 the g8x tach goes to 8k but the redline is like 7200, gt350 tach goes to 9k but redline is 8250rpm. voodoo has a whole thousand more rpm more than the s58
This. The flat plane crank engine in the GT350 is designed to deliver above 4500 RPM, that's why it is bad from a dig even a "plain" GT Mustang would beat it. But above 4.5K RPM it becomes a monster. Its driving experience around a track is second to none. It's just not a drag car.
That beamer sounds like a lawnmower next to that wonderful supercharged V8 lmao. Nothing sounds so beautiful as an American supercharged V8, nothing...
I would rather have the GT350, than the M4. There's just something about that Voodoo engine and Tremec 6spd that is extraordinary. If only Mustang's could just find the traction during a dig. Can't wait to see that M4 vs the Cadillac CT-4 Blackwing with the no lift shift 6spd. Thank you Sam.
"under-powered?" ...since when? I don't know How the heck, European mfg's dyno their cars, (or even the Japanese for that matter). But facts are facts... performance number vs. real world performance "on the track" seem to confirm both manufactures - seem to make a long history of under rating their vehicles much more than US companies. When US car makers do the same, its never accepted. The 'street rumor mill' quickly 'corrects the lies. like Cobra Jet mustangs (claimed HP was 335hp? Boss 302 mustangs claimed 290hp? Dynos, don't lie - however, where and when you take your reading (on the dyno curve) can change the 'observed' HP/TQ reading by a bunch.
@Peter P. look at the stats dude American car makers are behind like 20 years in everything Europeans do. same thing Ferrari said back in 1966.. Ford said 1st, 2nd, 3rd.... :) .....Then did it again 67, 68, 69. Plus, You don't need to be "Royalty" to own one
Mustang has never really done anything for me. GT350 is a whole other machine. Truly the best Mustang Ford had ever built. Maybe the best they will ever build.
The flat plane-crank V8 in the GT350 is one of the best sounding engines in the world. Unfortunately, the Mustang's interior is just laughably terrible for the price. I had a fully loaded Mustang rental car for a week and just couldn't get over how cheap it all is and how awful the NVH is. My money would go to the M4 (really M3 for me), even though it costs way more. I'd also do the M3 Competition with AWD then it's insanely quicker than even this M4.
The Shelby didn't/couldn't launch. That 5.2 motor makes power at 6000 rpm's-plus. Rolling out at 1800-2500rpm's isnt enough. As seen this car pulls hardest just before redline. Nice vid tho!
Races usually happen on rolls, so mustang would be legit, bmw is just so nice its hard to pick. On the street a bmw, and Highway or long roads mustang imo
True. But starting from 0 is like when ur at a red light. Side by side . Few other scenarios but for me I drive on a open highway for 25 minutes to get to work and I usually beat the comp
Dude said ” on a roll, he took it, but not by much“
Bro got straight gapped
Hahaha took him to gaplebee’s 😂
Holy that Gt350 sound is heavenly
IMO it's annoyingly and unnecessarily loud
Agreed. Sounds like a Ferrari on steroids.
Sounds like an elephant taking a big shit
@@beardedforlife3740 but a lambo sound good doesn't it? Hypocrite.
@@kidodakid8861 that makes zero sense
I’ve got a 350 and this video went exactly the way that I thought. The Shelbys max torque happens really late, like 4,000 rpm, and the power builds pretty linearly through the rev range. As such it’s pretty ordinary down low and will be embarrassed by a lot of lesser vehicles from a dig. But from a roll, it’s an animal.
Get a great set of tires and bring the Rev's up she'll hook up amazing!
I agree, I own a 350 as well. You have to be obnoxious to get a good start in a GT350. I don't use drag mode much.
For a certified "Track vehicle", "Life begins at 4,000 - everything else is merely 'prelude'. (warmup).
Yet another ‘19 GT350 owner here.
It’s a pussycat around town and very manageable. Pump up the revs and hold on!
thats irrelevant since your not launching below that.
The sound coming from the Ford is unmatched in my opinion, the raspiness in the exhaust is remarkable.
I honestly was looking at an M3/M4 car for a bit but the sound was a deal breaker for me. I couldn't live with it day to day.
8000rpm is nuts
Ford needs better launch, seems like 1st gear is kicking his butt
@@anthonytorres7959 he just needs to manage his rpm better. Sounded like he was trying to launch at 4000 or above
Driver is scared bro with an N/A high rpm engine you must dig deep
He just pulls on you when you shift. His redline is so high that by the time you’re shifting into 3rd, he’s barely getting out of 1st. 😂
Exactly right, love my Shelby, on a 2nd gear 40 roll it's a monster
Is the Shelby a manual too?
@@Nebo600 that’s the only way you can get them, with a MANtran.
@@joelopez5018 please don’t ever say that again
@@Odin851 judging by that response, your parents haven’t showed you how drive a manual transmission. 😏.
I absolutely love both vehicles. The sound of that Shelby is something else to behold, but that M4 is awesome on so many levels too. Literally don't know which one I would pick if I were to buy one of these two amazing vehicles. Thanks Sam, love your channel!
I am in the same boat!
Easy choice after testing the M4! Ultimate driving machine is a better driver's car when compared to a Ford mustang imo!
@@nikolayk.3670 THIS ☝🏻 Just do it.
You want to make pony racers cry go with the beemers
@@germanengineering204 Next year's M4 will top the previous year by a lot, making the BMW sorta obsolete each year.
The verdict
BMW-won both drag races
Mustang- won both roll races
Both cars sound amazing
Me love both cars
Both cars sound amazing? I only heard the Mustang grrrrrrrrrrrrrr grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@@goochigoochs3836 more like the mustang went BrbrbrbrbrbrbbrrbaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Mustang bogged both drag starts.
The New X Drive competition blows away even the 500 but sadly no manual
@@blackice214 Can you post out of curiosity. The 500 not good out of the hole but the top end is prob. good.
What I like on the GT350 is the relatively smooth and BULLETPROOF manual tranny which might be one of the best out there - as opposed to the 5.0 manual, and really all others.
I feel like even though the 350 isn't a drag racer, we need a driver mod on the 350 to get that thing launched. He's bogging it and by the time it crawls out of the hole that M4 is gone. We can see the 350 is actually faster with the roll races but those launches are abysmal
Yah, was excruciating for me to watch that 5 second bog from a dig each time.
Funny he didn’t give you a like!😂
Even if the driver is a pro, it is still hard to to wing a race with the gt350 from a dig. I have one and the power kicks off around 4k rpm.
@@universalwraps8071 all v8 stangs are hard to launch from a dig. Ford really needs to work on this. It's bloody annoying
@@davothegreat9990 it’s cause he was trying to use launch control. You just launch it unassisted.
I knew he would win the roll cause while you were shifting he still has nearly 2000rpm more to climb plus the slight hp advantage but they say the German engineering is miles ahead and you had turbos so the 350 is by no means slow great race bro
It’s funny because German engineering is so far ahead even the engineers at mustang are some of them are German and worked at bmw
@@alexk3469 lol yeah the launch in the BMW off the line proves it if the mustang didn't bogg down it would be a clean race
BMW had to make a choice based on power range vs TQ, when they sized those twin turbos. Large turbos will make big power -only after they spool up OR they could use smaller to bring in available TQ down lower in the rev range. The usual compromise is twin / smaller, but duel turbos, 6 cylinders have strong tQ by design (that's why 6 cylinders are so often used in trucks)....which is what they probably combined them 6cyl and turbos... made a perfect combination). Ford did the same...to make the power plant to power the explorer police vehicles.... V6 / twin turbos... Ford engineers are pretty good too.
@@JustinAEgan yea and maybe a gt350 with the dct 7 speed and launch control would probably help a little bit now I'm v8 mustang all day and night but I do wonder how the 3.5 high output Ecoboost hasn't been added as an option for this car with that raptor tq. and new exhaust I'd actually like to see one and I wouldn't mind a Barra option either lol
@@JustinAEgan yeah exactly v6 because there not skilled enough to make a inline six
Not even going to lie. I used to doubt the production quality and content of this channel. It has come so far and is a MUST watch every time you post. Good job Sam and keep up the great work as this channel WILL be at 1mil in 3-5 years time.
Shows how important the redline RPM is in a drag/roll race, especially in a manual!
Exactly what I was thinking, in a roll the rpm redline is so important!
@@trow5oh239 In a roll it's matching the gear to the sweet spot in the torque curve at the start of the roll.
Was really looking forward to seeing the dragy info for these cars. Oh well
Mustang needs a driver MOD. The Mustang false on it's face on each launch. Driver needs to raise the RPM.
From what I've seen every review where they race them the m4 beats them lol
The 350 has no tq down low. That’s the issue.
@@TheCdM1981 unfortunately not many people understand nuance.
That’s what I thought he either missed a shift or just didn’t know how to properly launch I know that 350 Would’ve stayed even or a bit in front , but the M4 still a cool car
@@ericknava9627 Definitely not a driver issue. 350 is not a 1/4 mile car and no driver is going to make it one. 1/4 is the only place the BMW can keep up, though.
The engine on the GT350 is something special. If 1st gear was shorter in the shelby, it would take off the line way better. A lot of shelby owners dont know how to properly launch the car and it shows because you see how bad it bogs each race. Also the M4 got the jump each time. When it comes to roll racing, that NA Shelby is so sweet It’s my dream car to own one day.
That's just normal, I've only seen one person know how to launch a mustang in general. It's sad but it's "cheaper power" so people buy it without having any actual skill driving. Still sounds good so even if u suck at driving the experience is 🔥
Be interesting to match up Sam with Mat from CarWow...to see who jumps the earliest!
Ur lucky this was a 6 speed m4 non competition non xdrive. Just be happy this channel chose not to embarass mustang owners😂
@user-my4xu4gf1z also not a 350R
@@G82Watts Whats embarrassing is how plain looking that M4 is for what you pay. Its a great car and fast for sure but looks just like a regular 4 series.
As expected. The Shelby GT350 is not a car from the dig, it’s a car from the roll. On the track, it’s an absolute animal especially the R.
That voodoo 8200 rpm V8 shine on the top :))) still impressive N/A VS FORCED Induction in line 6
8,450 REDLINE🤯
@@arf-ko9do no
That Mustang needs a driver...
I was such a fan of the DCT in the old m4 and the auto in the new ones, however something seems so extremely satisfying about rowing gears in an M car. Literally my two favorite sports cars in this vid
I would love to see this race again with Sam in the Mustang from a dig...the other fella wasn't launching it too good or just being very conservative.
The flat plane crank v8 in the Ford doesn't have the low end torque that the TT I6 in the BMW has. Most mustangs of the S550 platform can't launch for shit unless it's on a prepped surface with the right tire whereas this new G80/G82 M3/M4 has a better ability to put that power down from a standstill.
@@jeron8066 Respect.
@@jeron8066 also bogged down at launch its hard to launch perfectly every time esp if you’re not tryna burn your clutch
@@audiwankenobi361 love the username
He was bogging down first gear in that mustang need a driver mod
Shelby needs a driver mod
You need to launch the mustang at a higher rpm to have a chance
Very competitive. The results from the roll race makes me wonder if the Mustang was struggling to get off the line during the drag race. Possible traction issues?
Just bmw has a better take off
@@SamCarLegion imagine if mustang gets better launch. Probably orbits into space
Mustang runs Michelin pilot super sports from factory, they suck for drag racing it needs better tires to put down all that power how do I know, I have a 760 HP Camaro and have ran multiple tires
By the sound of the exhaust the mustang definitely bogged way down... very low rpms.
The bmw turbo low end torque push the bmw from start the mustang is n/@ means he got the torque and power on high thats why on roll the n/a engine have much better reaction because he already in the powerband.
Take that M4 any day over the ford
Not I
Sound of GT350 its... 👌🤩🤤
The shelby screams like no other man, it sounds so good
The M4's horsepower seems underrated. That GT350 sounds amazing!
BMW consistently underrates their engines, and the Supra.
Let pUt y’all on. Bmw crank number are there actually WheeL horsepower number meaning the crank horsepower is higher
You must also consider the torque curve of the turbocharged engine in the m4.
It's a turbo vs n/a plus you need to be up in the rpm for the Shelby to really go to work
Y'all know there's more to it than just horsepower right?
I can’t think of ANYTHING that sounds better than that GT350!
I own one 2016 white with blue stripes but I feel like jaguar f type r sounds a bit better
@@mma4rum736 it doesn't.
@@ameltjr9802 just my opinion! I no longer have gt350 and now have c7 z06
Sam this is the first video of yours I've seen. I absolutely loved it. Reason? Little talking, no unnecessary verbal filler just to extend the video, no stupid irritating music, it was just pure racing. You did exactly what you briefly stated at the beginning-----and no B.S. 2 Thumbs up!!!
That flat plane v8 has some wicked top end and crazy urgency! Considering that M4 probably makes like 540hp since BMW always lies about their hp. It pulled pretty hard
A manual BMW doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me the thing basically drives itself down the road you're sitting there in luxury and then it's like hey user/driver you got to do this really important thing..... slower then the model with a DCT.
Haha that's true
The mustang would’ve beat you from a dig if he knew how to drive the car. Every time he used launch control it landed flat on its face. If he would’ve raced you without launch control he would’ve beat you every time.
Yup he needs to learn how to slip that clutch or let them tires spin a bit
Yep, I own a GT350R, you have to have launch control set to at minimum 4800 rpm any lower and it bogs, it needs the wheelspin because the torque isn't your typical down low torque. Get the tires spinning just a little and the car leaves way harder than this shows. His rolls he is also down too low in the RPM, he should be starting his rolls at 5500rpm.
@@dirtjumper1979 Absolutely! From a GT350 owner
Two awesome cars.
That 350 sounds ridiculous!!
Please dont show the BMW from the front, it makes me violently throw up :(
Wow Sam, you really had improved your shifting since I started watching you!
Happy to see your channel growing Sam! 😃
You are doing a super job with the drag races 🎉🎊🍾🥳🍻👏
Mustang needed a better launch, warming up tires launching at different rpms. Car bogged off the line both times. Funny how the GT350 a 6 + year old platform smokes the all new 2021 m4 lol.
Bro do race between ford fusion 2.0 ecoboost vs honda accord 2.0t please 🙏🏼
Coming
Can you do race between TLX Type-S vs Kia K5 GT
2.0t Fusion would get smoked. Now the 2.7t Fusion on the other hand.... That's a much different story.
@@jefff6884 probably the 2.7t would be very close with the accord 2.0t
@@SamCarLegion and is it possible to do race between Kia Optima SX-Limited 2.0t and Ford Fusion 2.0 ecoboost?
As stang lover i was expecting a better performance from the 350. Amazing race anyway!!! Keep it up Sam!
It smoked the m4 where it really matters,from a roll and it would absolutely destroy it around the track.The m4 isnt a bad car,just not on the level of the 350 and this comes from a guy who usually hate ford product but the 350 is just a masterpiece.
Why? The GT350 can barely hold off a lowly Camaro SS. 8000+ RPM and no VVL in a 3,800 lb car is a bit of a dog. Ford should have put Voodoo $$$ into the Coyote (i.e., VVL, etc.), which would have paid dividends across all of Ford.
@@pope9349 It barely beat the m4 in the roll by not even half a car length and that's without tune. Also, m4 comp does Nürburgring in 7:30 vs GT350R in 7:32, so don't always assume without real data.
@@nikolayk.3670 lmao number based keyboard warriors 😂 bruh I’m just stating the facts on paper. Obviously the gt350 is more of an experience with the tremec 6 speed and the screaming high rev voodoo.
@@MikeyG003 gt350 is 5-year old design car. Comparison with g82 isn't "fair", it was made to be on par with f82, which gt350 eating easily.
Moreover, times on nurburgring without all context (tires,drivers,etc.) isn't good comparison as well. And GT350R doesn't have official record of a lap time, it's not legit, though I think 7.32 isn't hard task for it.
G82 is incredible car by no means (except the looks, this is just horrendous cheap looking fat crap).
Listen to that vodoo engine.The 350 is the better car anyways,drag racing means aboslutely nothing.The 350 smokes it around the track where it really matters.this comes from a guy who usually hate ford product but the 350 is just a masterpiece.
great race, from a dead stop Shelby was slow at first WHY? Think owner was clutch protection guy - should be faster. BYE
I don't think Shelby driver knows to to launch it properly. You can tell by the sound of the engine. Shifts too early out of 1st every time. Rolling start proved it.
It's pretty obvious that the Shelby owner does not know how to launch his car. He should be slipping the clutch instead of using launch control. The only thing he accomplished in those 2 dig races was showing how badly the car bogs down when using launch control in these cars.
hmmm, that Shelby wasn't getting off the line properly. You can even see the guy on the track bury his face in his hands in dismay at the Shelby's start. 3:47
Mustangs get alot of shit like oh they're slow blah blah yeah from a dig maybe but I mean it's never been a grippy car that's what makes it fun
You can keep that Eurotrash, I'd take that sexy Shelby any day of the week (twice on Sundays)
Shelby doesn't need any fake engine sounds from the speakers. In fact it doesn't need any speakers, I'd be good just listening to that engine.
I cant imagine doing a roll race againts ecoboost looking mustang, and suddenly the raspy exhaust starts roaring💀
The only thing I don't agree with in the video is when he claims to have only lost by a little but then claims he got the gt350 by a lot. You can clearly see in the video it was very close on both sides during the digs and roll races.
чувак за рулем форда не умеет стартовать - бросает сцепление, в итоге машина на старте едва не глохнет. А должна делать рывок
The GT350 was bogging out on the launches. I'm thinking if the driver would have known how to get out of the hole better the 350 would have won those races also. The 350 puts out more HP and torque than the M4.
I love both in 6 speed manual but I prefer the Mustang's looks and sound. It's also cheaper. Pretty even races though.
What I expected from dig BMW roll Stang
Great fuckin video buddy.
Less talky more racey!!!
You guys know that the GT350 isnt made for drag racing?
The guy in the stang don't know how to drive a stick shift
The 350 is bad from digs because 1st gear is to long for dig racing
The launch of the m4 is immaculate, the gt350 took the roll due to higher revving engine, you can see the m4 lose almost a whole car length when he shifts while the Shelby is still pushing the same gear . Both amazing cars
The BMW is just a legend, and I hope to have one when I grow up. So special.
😂🤣 when you grow up! I have an 550i and it's awesome 💯💪
I knew in the roll race the higher revving GT350 would hit its stride and win. The M4 wins from the dig because of its low down grunt. Overall, I’ll take that GT350 all day every day. That GT350 is making music. Puts the M4 to shame.
Sam has by far some of the slickest shifts on youtube. Good driving mate.
Agreed. He does look a little psychotic with the intensity of that stare but I dig it!
Are you kidding me? Sam is literally the worst manual driver i've ever seen. Have you seen his M4 vs supra video? God awful.
Good race.. I noticed that the 350 bog down abit off the line
I heard it too need launch that thing like 5,500 rpm ain’t nobody home below 4k
RIP headphones users
lmao the mustang is not competition for the M4, german cars rule
I have to go with the Shelby,…it’s that amazing sound! Either car is one helluva machine and you cannot go wrong with either. I just love that Shelby high revving voodoo engine!!!
What's wrong with yall americans only caring about sound sound doesn't help the car win😑
@@nicolasmigabo well the gt350 is faster in a straight and track race so why not pick shelby?
@@nicolasmigabo mustang won plus sounds good plus not gay like BMW
@@mimioize1634 Ford is step-down from bmw
@@valeriyGennadyevich BMW is for people who dont like aka rich kweers
Eargasm of a flat plane crank V8. 8250 rpm redline.
The advantage of the GT350 in a Roll comes from gearing and a higher red line. The advantage from a dig on the M3 comes from low end torque and the ability to put the power down. I can’t launch my S550 anywhere but on a prep surface. Can’t wait to get my allocation for a M3 X drive for roll races and 1/2 mile events.
it’s refreshing to see someone appreciate a car for it being just what it is and not have a bias
Mustang driver from the dig, needs practice.
Well said man!
It don’t have a higher redline the m4 revs to 8000rpn
@@alexk3469 the g8x tach goes to 8k but the redline is like 7200, gt350 tach goes to 9k but redline is 8250rpm. voodoo has a whole thousand more rpm more than the s58
Xdrive competition would kill that mustang
The m4 grill kills it for me. The guy in the 350 doesn't know how to launch the car. Yes I've driven both the 350 and the 350R lol.
Man, that GT350 seems to bog pretty bad.
He can't launch the GT. Rpms should be up alot higher
Good runs, nice shifting
Big naturally aspirated engines are very powerful from a roll
Dude can’t even launch his own car. I kinda assumed though with those ricey ass mods on a gt350 😂
5:52, ford has more power, if ford wants to win from a dig he needs to spin the tires more and not let rpm drop under 5000 during launch
This. The flat plane crank engine in the GT350 is designed to deliver above 4500 RPM, that's why it is bad from a dig even a "plain" GT Mustang would beat it. But above 4.5K RPM it becomes a monster. Its driving experience around a track is second to none. It's just not a drag car.
Mustang needs to rev higher rpm to lunch keep bogging it bro. Shelby 350 is a high reving engine like V TEC lol.
Shelby gappeddddd that bmw rolling… wasn’t close at all. Coarse a dig on hard tire the v8 tq will spin. On a track the Shelby wins both.
Is the guy driving the mustang awake?
Butter FACE... :'(
(The M4)
Why is bmw killing the look of their cars.. that front end is just awful 😣
Because now women are involved in designing cars etc. Feminism has driven the world mad.
That beamer sounds like a lawnmower next to that wonderful supercharged V8 lmao. Nothing sounds so beautiful as an American supercharged V8, nothing...
That mustang is not supercharged
@@hpickettz34 No? My bad. Even worse for the beamer...
I drove the M4 and it doesn’t feel as fun as driving a Mustang. Interior is better but overall thrill the FORD will always win
The BMWs hook up so much better from the start.
Wing on the gt350 slows it down a lot when it comes to straight line racing
As well as the Gt500 splitters up front.
I would rather have the GT350, than the M4. There's just something about that Voodoo engine and Tremec 6spd that is extraordinary. If only Mustang's could just find the traction during a dig. Can't wait to see that M4 vs the Cadillac CT-4 Blackwing with the no lift shift 6spd. Thank you Sam.
The M4's front end is hideous!
@@davemillan5082 so is mine
Amazing how well Bmw performs even when underpowered against the competition.
"under-powered?" ...since when? I don't know How the heck, European mfg's dyno their cars, (or even the Japanese for that matter).
But facts are facts... performance number vs. real world performance "on the track" seem to confirm both manufactures - seem to make a long history of under rating their vehicles much more than US companies.
When US car makers do the same, its never accepted. The 'street rumor mill' quickly 'corrects the lies.
like Cobra Jet mustangs (claimed HP was 335hp? Boss 302 mustangs claimed 290hp?
Dynos, don't lie - however, where and when you take your reading (on the dyno curve) can change the 'observed' HP/TQ reading by a bunch.
@Peter P. look at the stats dude American car makers are behind like 20 years in everything Europeans do.
same thing Ferrari said back in 1966.. Ford said 1st, 2nd, 3rd.... :) .....Then did it again 67, 68, 69.
Plus, You don't need to be "Royalty" to own one
@@JustinAEgan "royalty" lol it's not a Koenigsegg bro it's under $100k
Mustang has never really done anything for me. GT350 is a whole other machine. Truly the best Mustang Ford had ever built. Maybe the best they will ever build.
Wow, both cars amazing and Sam can drive the crap out of that manual. Good job.
MUSTANG NEED’S A DRIVER ‼️
The flat plane-crank V8 in the GT350 is one of the best sounding engines in the world. Unfortunately, the Mustang's interior is just laughably terrible for the price. I had a fully loaded Mustang rental car for a week and just couldn't get over how cheap it all is and how awful the NVH is. My money would go to the M4 (really M3 for me), even though it costs way more. I'd also do the M3 Competition with AWD then it's insanely quicker than even this M4.
You don't buy a mustang for the interior lol and tbh the s550 interior is a big step up from the s197
Mustang sounds glorious. The high revving engine in the 350 and 350R make it the most special modern Mustang ever produced...at least in my books!
i love mine and wouldn't change it for anything
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@Adonis D thanks so much for your email so far and sorry I didn't work on the west side or the day after that you were going out with the family
What book do u have huh?
@@anthonycraig2079 One that's above your level of comprehension!
Shelby needs a new driver..
The Shelby didn't/couldn't launch. That 5.2 motor makes power at 6000 rpm's-plus. Rolling out at 1800-2500rpm's isnt enough. As seen this car pulls hardest just before redline. Nice vid tho!
Gt350 revs to 8500…………….it just takes a while.
8250 to be exact
I much prefer this intro soundtrack to the older one gives me Unreal tournament (1999) vibes.
he wins on the roll because of the gear shifts, it would be a completely different story with DCT
I think the point of the video was to compare like for like. They're both manuals.
good lord talk about needing a driver mod for the GT350
Races usually happen on rolls, so mustang would be legit, bmw is just so nice its hard to pick. On the street a bmw, and Highway or long roads mustang imo
And all the drag racers say that real races are from a dig.
True. But starting from 0 is like when ur at a red light. Side by side . Few other scenarios but for me I drive on a open highway for 25 minutes to get to work and I usually beat the comp
BMW front end........ugly!
interesting race.. i didnt even know the m4 came in manual. but the gt350 sounds dammmmmmnnn good
The Shelby wins in looks
Two thumbs up like Sam