Bill Cipher VS Discord (Gravity Falls VS My Little Pony) | DEATH BATTLE!
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I gotta say, this is probably the only death battles where "Running the data through ALL possibilities" would actually be impossible.
Yeah because their nothing they can't do
@@austinking249 Or, to put it in fancy impressive science-y language, they're Apex-class ontokinetics.
literally the only thing worth leveraging is what they have to lose
and Discord certainly has people worth keeping
Ttue
Well, i still think that Discord had better multiversal feats, while Bill hadn`t shown any above universal
If you pay attention, after Bill and Discord leave the puppet bubble, the weirdness bubbles are all gone. This is a subtle hint that Discord transported Bill out of Equestria
OH MY GOD
He did he used what magic he had left to trap bill in a different dimension
I think that it rather was that he was slowly "fixing" the place before trapping Bill. First you can see the ponies floating without being statues, then the bubbles and mosnters are gone and finally he teleports Bill to his dimention.
All of that and the way he hugs the yellow pony's flag makes me feel that Discord alredy knew from the start that he wouldn't beat Bill so he just distracted him long enough to repair all the chaos and then trap him
@@mdsystems4463 I love that headcanon and am adopting it.
@@mdsystems4463 You could also see that as the reason he knew he’d lose. He knew that if he started ‘restoring’ everything, it would totally lower his power. He’s the embodiment of chaos, so any ‘order’ Discord does would make him weaker.
Not only is the bro a troll and was he able to teach Bill the meaning of sacrificing yourself for your friends, but also what the definition of a ‘Pyrrhic Victory’ is.
Bill reaching into his own eye to grab discord was an animation masterpiece
That was genuinely terrifying.
His eye getting hit can actually result in pain for him but, he clearly cut off his inhibitors when he reached in himself... Sick AWESOME!!
👌😩🤌
Good thing he can regen
It was freaking ominous as f 😱
Moro always makes masterpieces. He's the guy who animated all the hand drawn Bill Cipher scenes during the fight, with the exception of when Bill and Discord were rubberhose animated.
5:35 And now the Book of Bill has revealed that he first has to go through a form of therapy with other cosmic horrors. It's not working out well.
what do you mean, he's perfectly fine :)
He’s making another book I think also exclusive one has 16 more pages
Which seems extra ironic since one could argue that thanks to Fluttershy, Discord probably would have walked in and out of there. At least for himself, one could argue that he likely would have had a faster turn around as opposed to Bill basically waiting for that one person to bring him back (although it is kind of clear that he is going to be waiting for a particularly long time).
at least we’re learning more about him!
@@casaleiasallet1176 He's never going to be rehabilitated though. He's not going to become good.
I love that this feels more like the end of crossover event rather than a random fight between the two.
Me too, hope someone make a fanfiction about it with final battle being the same on this episode
That's exactly what I was thinking: Bill won the Death Battle, but Discord won the narrative.
It really does. No Death Battle comes this close to feeling like a canon cross-over story with deep lore behind it
@@alexbaribeault What about Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher?
@@parachilla4321that comes pretty close
I like the spoiler hidden at the start; Discord starts the fight writing a letter to Celestia saying Bill would learn an important lesson about Friendship. In the end, he sacrifices himself to dump Bill back in the Nightmare Realm to protect his friends, the letter he wrote to them can be seen on the other side of the portal before it shuts.
Discord was never going to win, so he prepared in advance and used Bill's tunnel vision against him to win the war instead of the battle, saving his friends even though he couldn't win. He did indeed teach Bill a lesson.
What's more, he did it the same way Bill lost last time. When he says "I've seen your show" he wasn't talking about recreating the literal events of Bill's death, as it looked like. He was talking about making Bill overfocus on a goal (killing him), making Bill underestimate him (by making him think he took he misunderstood why Bill lost and took it to literally), and he performed the same type self-sacrifice Stan did, something Bill simply can't understand and thus never predicts. I also assume that what's written on that letter is a goodbye to Fluttershy, he just passed it off as a joke so Bill wouldn't suspect anything.
@@transfandomman1699 I think it's more Discord knowing he doesn't have to do anything anymore, he saved his friends and his home, he knows Bill's fate is sealed, as a concept himself, Discord will likely come back thanks to his friends, that letter you mentioned was also being written at the start of the battle about the importance of friendship and ultimately, that's why Discord gets the higher ground as he'll return back to his friends, but Bill is still stuck in his realm.
@@dragonquest8ftw1Discord’s conceptual existence is the whole thing that makes this war unwinnable for Bill.
Even Reddit agreed on that somehow.
So they were talking in Battles, which Bill won, but Discord most definitely won the war.
Now that a real one right there.
He did it all just to save Fluttershy and all of Equestria... I can respect Discord for that
I love the fact that Bill and Discord are arguing within the text of each other’s analyses
They did?
@@ultrainstinctgokuhope7442 look at the text, you can see them insulting each other
Yeah. That was hilarious.
@@Galvatron759which minute?
@@nachonaitor553510:56 is where I saw most of it
Funnily enough, this is technically canon since Alex himself says that his favorite ability of Bill is how he can show up in any show, even from creators he hasn’t met
Really? Where from?
@@xxJC22xx Arguably from two sources
The first and one I found out recently is the fact that a playing card called "Dubious Intent" on a Discord Friend card from the MLP card game (Yes, actually, there is indeed a card game that looks like Magic: The Gathering) Discord mentions bring a friend with a very, very familiar description to the MLP world. Now, this could be seen as non canon, though with Discord's ability to break the fourth wall and it being an even bigger easter egg than other MLP easter eggs, I like to have some hope.
However, my main source was from the fact that Alex recently stated on what his favorite ability Bill has is to show up in other shows, media, comics, etc. like Rick and Morty, The Simpsons, and *even shows where Alex doesn't know the creators.* I could be grasping at straws, and I'm trying not to, but the wording quite literally states that even outside of his direct influence, Alex has technically deemed that any depiction of Bill across media is canon. This also makes sense as there are literally an infinite amounts of him, though I like to think that's because it's like a hive-mind esque situation where his main body is on a higher plane of existence, one that probably was seen in the show since the reality Bill breaks into, our Gravity Falls, is actually confirmed to be the one out of an *infinite* where the Pines family makes it through the summer, the one variation out of literally every other parallel dimension with them to canonically live (which technically means that even the Stanford that successfully kept Bill "out" of his world, and all those Mabel variations, are likely dead or no longer able to return to the worlds they loved. That's a nice thought).
Again, I could be really stretching it and grasping at straws, and trust me I'm really trying not to and be as unbiased as possible, but it seems to me that there is at least something to get out of all of it.
@@xxJC22xx 6I'm perfectly fine with it not being part of the canon, I just think I find it really interesting it might be
Case in Point "BUY CRYPTO SUCKERS!"
@@shotaaizawa1206yeah he also shows up in drawing and diagram forms in the owl house, amphibia, rick and Morty and possibly SVTFOE
Fun Fact: If you play this battle’s song “Discordant Decipher” in reverse, there’s a reversed message that says. “Why are you listening to this part backwards? Don’t tell me you’re some kind of tinfoiler. You do know the song doesn’t decide who wins, right?”
I can see either Discord OR Bill saying that
But you’re not going to say what the ending reversed bit was??
@@theendofthestart8179"the universe is a hologram reality is an illusion buy gold bye."
@@helios_is_my_name nice
this death battle gets debunked, its rigged bill cipher is at best universal and discord multiversal+ i can type an essay on why and show their attack potency, lifting and striking strenght, speed ect.
Okay, but Discord sacrificing himself to save everyone is 100% in-character.
I love it.
Bill Cipher made one of the biggest mistakes in MLP history: Messing with Fluttershy.
Here's a thing there ofc is someone stupid enough to except Bill's deal so either way Bill can just takeover the Mlp universe again without Discord in the way
@@Stupidity-_- After he nearly nuked their universe? Yeah, I don't think so...
@@bismuth7398 wdym?
@@Stupidity-_- Why would anybody in Equestria listen to the Cthulhu Dorito after he nearly destroyed everything?
I'm not an MLP fan, but hearing Fluttershy sadly calling "Discord?" broke my heart. Fiction is wild
As someone who has watched most of it, that line hurt.
I'm a Fluttershy fan...it was hard to listen too.
Even if discord lost the battle against bill, but at least he won the war and had the last laugh by saving Fluttershy :)
And it's also been established in the lore that Discord will always reform since he has to exist. He's a concept, you can't destroy a concept. He will always come back we just don't know how long. :p
Basically if Bill ever comes back, discord vs bill cipher will happen again and the same thing repeats.
Which is ironic becuase in G5 it is Discord mourning dead Fluttershy. THIS SHIP IS REAL!!! (like One Piece)
@@MrConredsX …Did they die? I never got into MLP, just watched it during My Childhood. Beside that, can’t Discord just resurrect her?
I just read the book of bill and it turned out that he didn't reincarnate, he was forced into therapy💀
Therapy is what MLP fandom needs
Nah, just the weirdos, not the normal people
@@Corbin_Crow the normal people need also therapy for what weirdos people make them see
cool .
Although, if theraprism happens to be successful, a patient can then reincarnate. Just for Bill's case, he's way too stubborn (and chaotic) to work with his therapists 😅 it may take millennia (or longer) for him to fully deconstruct his behavior and trauma (if at all).
I really love the double meaning in Discord "I've seen your show, and I know how you die." It makes everyone think he's talking about him being destroyed inside a mind... yet the truer meaning is about someone sacrificing himself for those he loves - something the selfish Bill, despite all his foreknowledge, would never expect or see coming.
That's... deep.
Discord lost the battle but won the war and respect.
Finally somebody else points this out! The only way to defeat Bill is to do the one thing he can't comprehend: Be selfless.
Also luring him somewhere by distracting him with something he wants, or playing on his ego. He was too busy enjoying his fight with Discord (especially inside his mind) that he didn't even notice he wasn't in Equestria
this death battle gets debunked, its rigged bill cipher is at best universal and discord multiversal+ i can type an essay on why and show their attack potency, lifting and striking strenght, speed ect.
@@markmolayal9402 I love how he said he's an all seeing god just moment before getting trapped in that dimension (I forgot it's name)
My favorite thing I haven’t seen anyone mention yet is that in the portal to Equestria, you can see a letter on the ground, meaning that the letter he wrote at the beginning of the fight was a farewell note to Fluttershy and the others, he always knew that he might not be able to stick around to say goodbye so he did it the only way he could
With enough chaos he can recreate his soul and physical body, he has a plan to defeat bill knowing there was no chance to destroy bill
The quivering in Fluttershy's voice as she's saying Discord's name with the note on the ground really hit home.
Did a great job with this one!!
@@monsterplay1007it's an interesting question to consider, since Bill is capable of eradicating entire souls and spirits from existence. But I also realize Discord reshaped himself from nothing before, too.
Regardless, it's a really solid and touching way to go
@@monsterplay1007honestly it’s hard to say how he died as we don’t know what bill did to him either way I guess everybody wins as they both come back no matter what
I believe Discord foresaw that he was going to lose, and that's why he wrote that letter at the start of the fight.
Probably copium but maybe he's still out there. You can't truly 𝘬𝘪𝘭𝘭 chaos, after all.
I adore how their deaths, Bill’s in his own show and Discord’s in this death battle, show their true natures. Discord died a noble death because he’d learned to care more about the world and Fluttershy than he did about himself. Meanwhile, Bill died begging and desperately trying to make a deal. He only cared about himself, so when he died, there was no solice. Only the terror of perishing after existing for over a trillion years. He went out kicking and screaming with no dignity.
Yeah Bill went out like a loser, and took the biggest L's in fiction.
If he IS truly dead.
There are plenty of hints in the supplementary materials that Bill Cipher may not be as dead as we think...
It is also hinted at by the show that Bill is probably still alive but I still totally agree he was served a big L
Well said!
@@ronald_mcva Thank you!
Makes ya feel any better, the book of bill ends with us learning that he is trapped in a therapy facility. Nobody will ever leave until they’re better. Since bill is who he is,until he can change and keep the change, there is no way he can come back to reality.
haha noob bill
I think that’s true unless someone shakes the bill cypher statues hand. Correct me if I’m wrong
I love how bittersweet yet kinda honorable the ending was, Bill won the fight but Discord ended up having the final laugh, both metaphorically and literally
And they will continue to fight for eternity in an endless loop of discord resurrecting and bill coming back.
@@KirbyStarAnimation Wonder if bill could take on Mr Mxyzptlk
@@Dradogs2 Who knows but I do find the matchup interesting.
Why you gotta spoil
I count this as a victory for Discord, and I'm pretty sure that was only part of Discord that made sure that Bill couldn't get Equestria.
Can we all agree that Discord played his trap card perfectly for his heroic death from Bill?
I mean, considering Discord can’t stay permanently dead, yeah it was a genius move.
Death Battle made both characters justice in this fight.
@@stevelucky7579 he cant regenerate his soul he ded for good
@@thomasbusch834nah,.as long as Chaos exists he will exist so...
@@tristancummings5925 the tragedy of this though is he probably won't return before FlutterShy passes from old age ...
The fact, better help is the sponsor for this, and the book of bill has him in the thearaprism, is so ironic.
I love how this mirrors Bill’s defeat in Gravity Falls in a lot of ways. Grunkle Stan sacrifices himself to lock Bill away to protect his family and Discord does the same.
Funny how:
Both were voiced by the same VA in Brazil (Discord has 2 VAs actually. Second one is also Soos' voice, Cesar Marchetti)
Today is the birthday of said VA (Marcelo Pissardini)
Also, honestly even with Discord losing, this is still a best case scenario since I don't think Discord can technically truly ever die. Bill might have been able to destroy his physical and spiritual form but, chaos will always exist and the ponies might be able to bring him back with enough chaos.
@@corneliussnow8215since he just always come back
Wait, was that what he meant by "I know how you die?". He wasn't referring to the mind burn, he was referring to a self-sacrifice play.
@@corneliussnow8215 it’s true he has confirmed this too but it’s takes a long time for his body too restore completely
I love how this fight embodies the essence of chaos. Chaos are usually related with evil, but this episode shows how Chaotic Good vs Chaotic Evil is vastly different.
Well, Discord hovers between Chaotic Neutral and Chaotic Good depending on the day.
@@SinHurr
And Lawful Evil that one time.
Discord is Chaotic Neutral/Good
Bill is Chaotic Evil
@@SinHurrYes, but in the face of evil and oblivion, one tends to be slid into Good just to counter it.
I would call Discord at worst is Chaotic Necessary-Evil. Several times he’s helped others by being the villain encouraging others to grow stronger and build bonds.
Debates aside its wholesome to see Discord is fighting to free the ponies instead of his own gain.
Meh, mostly for Fluttershy, friends of a friend
Though Discord does his 4th wall bit before the fight saying he doesn't want to be shown up by Bill and that's why he'll fight
O yeah bill won 😊
Bill can regen his soul while discord cant
Starscream: What about me?! It's been 10 years and i'm still stuck in the gut of a goddamn pony!
Hi after learning about The Book of Bill “a tad Euclidean for my taste” hits different
Kinda makes you understand his anger a little more after he was sent back, lots of PTSD
For people wondering what Bill Cypher said at the end, he said “Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, bye!”
Did you manage to decode the ciphers in bill's descriptions?
I’m not that good… but near the end, some of the frames have some repeated words in white in a black background, that says “Transform The Question Demon”. It might either be a reference to an episode, or possibly a direct quote said by someone in an episode of Death Battle.
"Buy Gold!"
Goodbye gold
@avonace9873 I ran the first one, "VOVEVM WVVA MFGA SZS," through multiple cipher solvers and the best one I found was "ELEVEN DEEZ NUTZ HAH"
Okay, but Fluttershy worrying about where Discord is is SO damn heartbreaking. I imagine the note we see in front of her and the others was like a farewell/apology to them. He literally gave it all for them in the end, and went out like a true hero...
My heart legit broke at that ngl
They need to tell us what that note says!!!
Discord: If I have to die just so Fluttershy & the others could live... Then so be it.
Remember: it's only a matter of time before Discord comes back.
He probably left them instructions for how to help speed the process up. He wouldn't want to keep his dear friend Fluttershy waiting...
@@bismuth7398imagine if it's bills note and he replaced the note discord made at the beginning to try to trick the ponys
I appreciate that even losing Discord succeeded in his goal, protecting his friends. Death Battle is, by its very nature, pairing up beings who would never fight in a duel to the death, no holding back even if the character themselves would not kill. This is one of the few ones where a without question EVIL individual fought a mostly good guy. And while the bad guy was much more powerful, in the end he still didn’t “win”. Discord achieved his goal, protecting his friends. I like that.
I salute him. What a chad
It won't last. Sooner or later, some greedy idiot will release Bill. He cannot be permanently destroyed, like Discord can.
@@corjonbett Discord cannot be permanently destroyed either. In cannon, if chaos exists, discord exists. Great fight though.
Well, Bill wasn't more powerful.... he just had a better mindset for taking out someone who was an equal in strength.
Still, making Bill's victory a Pyric one was still a awesome move on his part.
@@13KuriMaster There's also the fact Bill Cipher had way more resistance and regeneration than Discord which gave Bill the edge.
19:30 translation: reality is an illusion, The universe is a hologram, buy gold, byyyyy!
Thanks
It's much more satisfying when the loser gets a narrative conclusion in the fight! Really happy that you guys started doing that.
It's also a good way to give something to the people who wanted the losing character to win. That even if they lost the battle, they still got something significant out of it.
this death battle gets debunked, its rigged bill cipher is at best universal and discord multiversal+ i can type an essay on why and show their attack potency, lifting and striking strenght, speed ect.
@@ShadeSlayer1911
True, if the contest wasn't named Death Battle, it would be easy to argue this was a win for Discord, despite his friends probably not seeing it that way.
Though, I'm sure they'll make him a nice statue to commemorate his sacrifice.
@@David9413 see, that's why this way is so satisfying for both sides. They both win in their own ways. I know nothing of th3s3 characters before this episode, but I want3d discord to win by the end of it. And win he did.
This is what I loved about the Magneto vs Tetsuo fight. It made perfect sense given their characters, and Magneto understanding the pain and suffering of a tortured child and mercy killing him when he lost control and turned into a horrific monster was a great touch.
Someone at Disney even said there were a couple months that anyone visiting the studio could have seen a whiteboard that said “how to kill god” when they were trying to figure out how to kill bill. They made him so powerful that even the writers were stumped on how to kill him
Damn, one of the flaws of making an omnipotent being
Ha. Kill Bill.
@@Dusk_Mightyena "omnipotente"
This is why I hate disney and gravity falls as a whole and it’s creaters they made that stupid gross out show that give me nightmares and a existanal crisis
@@agsdragon5475skill issue
I don't even watch MLP and yet hearing Fluttershy call out for her friend broke my heart. Mad respect for Discord. Dude lost but he got the last laugh.
I used to not like MLP FiM, but after watching it, I like it
Anyways, after his action of saving fluttershy and equestria, i salute to him. What a chad
That last part amazingly showed the difference between Bill and Discord. Just like Death Battle said, Discord was never TRULY evil. He was just chaotic neutral, and it just so happened that it was dangerous for the citizens of Equestria. But Bill definitely IS a force of malevolence. Bill just uses chaos and destruction to further his own conquest, and even his own underlings aren't safe from his uncaring schemes. Having friends to fight for and sacrifice yourself for... is something Bill could NEVER understand. Heck, that's how the Pines beat him, after all.
I came for chaos and violence not feelings. They got me good.
There was a letter infront of whr two from discord, he knew he was gonna lose
@@mrreyes5004Well said! I also adore how their deaths, Bill’s in his own show and Discord’s in this death battle, show their true natures. Discord went out laughing, saving those he cared about. He died a noble death because he cared more about the world and Fluttershy than he did about himself. Meanwhile, Bill went out begging and desperately trying to make a deal. He only cared about himself, so when he died, there was no solice. He died kicking and screaming with zero dignity.
Well Bill fans thanks to the Book of Bill we have both good news and bad news for your boy.
Good News: he’s still alive
Bad News: he’s now stuck in a rehab facility for cosmic villains along with the Core from Amphibia…
I wonder if Belos might've ended up there too?
Even though Discord lost, he still succeeded in sealing away Bill from invading other dimensions.
Discord is like: I'm gonna do what they call a Pro Gamer Move.
Bill Cipher may have killed Discord, but Discord had the last laugh.
He didn’t “seal” away Bill from invading other dimensions though, Bill can still escape if he’s able to make a deal with someone.
@@Okus477 But as long as no one makes a deal with Bill, he won’t escape.
@@hypersaiyan7102 which is highly unlikely considering he can just wait for as long as he needs, he can manipulate even the most smartest of people, or even those who don’t want to.
@@hypersaiyan7102*me casually making a deal with bill.*
You could say that Discord actually did teach Bill a lesson in friendship.
There are some things that are worth sacrificing for....
Guess you can say Bill shoulda gone for the HEAD!!
@@theggamer2824shoulda gone for the soul first
More like, even the most selfish of people can sacrifice themselves for others. Aka Stan, and now Discord.
Spike, write a letter!
Doctor strange should learn that
I love how absolutely everything about the fight’s ending screams “I’ve won but at what cost” for both characters
And they even mention that discord would likely reform, but not quick enough to continue the fight.
I think Discord knew the cost. Wasn't what he preferred, but he died laughing knowing his friends are safe.
@RoxxieVoicesThingsbill won the fight, he had to get nerfed by the plot
Galactus vs Unicron? MARVEL x Transformers.
@@drik6588 Don't care
I love that, with these two cosmic chaos beings, even the loser is still powerful enough to piss on the winner's victory. This was a beautiful battle with incredible animation and some good gags for good measure.
It honestly broke my heart to see Fluttershy call out for Discord at the end.
Bill may have won the battle, but at least Discord saved his friends.
You realized Team My Little Pony lost AGAIN, right?
In the end, Discord had the last laugh... Literally (16:43 to 16:46)
Safe for now
True Bill won the Death Battle, but Discord won the war.
Like a boss, he took the "L" for the "W" in the end.
Man, DB is on a freaking roll! They really went all out with this episode and used every animation possible. The true Multiverse of Madness.
“Allegedly lost a drinking contest to Sideways from Transformers”
Now THAT is an obscure bit of trivia. That tidbit came from Sideways in a relatively obscure corner of Transformers lore, not MLP. I’m impressed with the research here.
Where did they come form
I'm pretty sure they found that while researching Megatron/Unicron
The thing is, there was actually a Transformers/MLP crossover comic
@@alexbeau7908there was also My Little Transformer, a fan web series
after reading the book of bill, this is uh… a little more clear of a victory
This is probably THE best death battle ever. From the narrative, to the characterization, to the mechanics, animations, etc. 10/10. The fact that the loser got the most respectable death in the series. Really well done.
They're upped their quality all around in multiple ways. Martian Manhunter vs Silver Surfer was top tier too!
That and the fact that Discord will eventually reconstitute, and he banished Bill from Equiestria in the process, thus saving everyone, and leaving Bill stranded in a burnt down husk of a dimension means that by all means Discord won the war here.
@@treybrzezowski3259yeah fair but bill wins the fight
@@treybrzezowski3259Bill never wins the war but he is very good at winning the battle
@@treybrzezowski3259 Yeah i was honestly confused by the analysis; I thought that Discord had won and that he had only teleported himself instead of dying, with the idea that they couldn't kill each other and so had to settle for something, I guess.
I love how discords laugh is a mix of relief agony and mockery.
The animation here was, for lack of better words. Phenomal. Super fun and really captured the essence of omnidimensional beings.
Alex said every appearance of bill outside the show is canon
Sweet
The last two Deathbattles seemed to have a more wholesome ending than usual. Between this and Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter, the characters have a more "real" feeling to them.
And also guts vs dimitri
I would say mostly this whole season, the endings have been surprisingly emotional and in character.
Yeah and it’s great.
Guts vs dimitri had a pseudo bittersweet ending
ogs forgetting abt the 2nd goku vs superman, the way superman put goku down after killing him was deadass touching
I think it's safe to say that Discord knew the whole time what he was doing and while he ultimately would have liked to finish Bill off, he also knew that he had to at least trap him first. This was one of those "victory by technicality" things because it is a fight to the death, but Bill's not pleased with winning.
this makes since
also hearing fluttershy speak in this death battle reminded me why i FREAKING love mlp fim
this show changed my life
thank you
@@somechupacabrawithinternet8866 I watched My Little Pony in second grade because I thought Applejack was hot
Agreed. One of the sadder parts about Discord's sacrifice is that it didn't permanently stop Bill: he did successfully banish Bill away from Equestria, but it's been canonically proven that Bill can take all the time he needs to trick another mortal into opening a portal for him. When Ford stopped working on the portal, Bill just waited a few decades to trick Mabel into opening it (remember, Bill is over 1 trillion years old). Even IF Discord returns to life with knowledge of his opponent's powers (he probably won't, due to his spirit dying), the same applies to Bill once he finds his way back, which cancels out that advantage.
At the same time, though, Discord was obviously low on options to handle Bill. Temporarily banishing Bill back to the Nightmare Realm was probably the smartest and best thing that Discord could've done with the sudden circumstances. If nothing else, he definitely bought time for his friends to hopefully prepare for Bill's return... and I'm sure that even a reality-warping demon like Bill would be better off avoiding a pissed off, vengeful version of _Fluttershy._
the thing is though, he was trapped at the start of the battle, they were never in canterlot, if you look at the portal at the end of the fight, you can see that no damage was done, and that the whole fight was in Discord's fake equestria
This death battle was insane! At first, I thought Discord won, but now I realize he sacrificed himself to banish Bill from Equestria, mirroring what Stan did in the show. Great job guys.
I thought the exact same thing. I had to re-watch it!
They went crazy with the budget and animation change in the bubbles.
Discord won the war. He lost the (Death) Battle, though.
Well, he did say he knew how bill Died, and technically, he did kill him in a sense
Oh my god, I just realized: 16:18 is referencing Stan's killing blow against Bill.
I replayed that a few times and I see it!
Except this type bills the one punching
Makes more sense when you see 16:08 showing a form similar to the 7 forms of bill during the event
This is the first time I've ever seen a combatant, sacrifice themselves to save others. I don't much care for MLP, but I gotta give mad respect to Discord. Bro's a hero in my book.
Because it's against the rules. All DB fighters are forced to cancel their morals and kill at any cost. But Discord is chaos incarnate and his 4th wall/rebirth/dimension travel/time travel abilities are superior enough for him to pull it off so I figure what the hell.
If I go down...
@@zacharymabb4873Discord: If I go down just to save Fluttershy & her friends... Then so be it.
Bill Cipher may be the winner, but Discord is the GOAT.
@@gmork1090I thought that rule only applied to situations where the character is a pacifist or has any reservations about killing their opponent
I can't think of too many situations where the character's loved ones actually get in the way of the fight except when they're killed right off the bat to incite motivation
14:15 Super small detail that I loved: after Discord buries Bill under all those desserts, it ends with a cherry on top coupled with the classic "ding" sound effect.
When it cuts back to Discord, what is he holding? A desk bell.
This man supplied his own sound effects.
Then Bill followed up with a "rimshot" from a rather conveniently obtained drum set after Discord made that "Just Desserts" joke.
@@SorenDaein Apparently Bill is a fan of Green Day as well, lol.
I think he tried draining his powers with the bell
It wasn’t super small we all saw it
@@Unyieldingwill no I didn't
Fluttershy's calling out for Discord at the end was legitimately heartbreaking
I know it was devastating 😢
Loser
@@fossilking444loser
it's been established in the lore that Discord will always reform since he has to exist. He's a concept, you can't destroy a concept. He will come back, he's fine
@@SleepyWhistles I mean Bill Cipher has killed Time Baby who was the concept of time meaning Bill could have concept destroying capabilities.
So I don't see Discord living after Bill killed him.
I love the trade off towards the end.
“We may be evenly matched Bill…”
And then the response from Bill, showing he’s done playing around.
“Oh, you think we’re EQUALS?”
Despite losing, Discord is the only combatant to screw over the winner’s victory. Mad respect to Discord.
Discord is the TRUE winner in our book.
Usually characters in Death Battle fight for no reason other than the occasional bloodlusted character or misunderstanding motive, but due to the context they found themselves in, Bill had the clear goal he was always shooting for since millenia.
Because it's canon in both verses that there are infinite universes with infinite possibilities, this is canon in another timeline. The setting is just what Bill's wanted and struggled for for so long. It was freedom in a new dimension for him to conquer.
This felt like a climactic story battle that would have took place after several arcs foreshadowing Bill's return and the big showdown. I never watched MLP, but from what I've read in the comments, this was a rare battle in which Discord was fighting for someone other than himself.
Discord's goal was to save the ponies. If it meant killing Bill, that was no problem, but saving his friends was his top priority. In the end however, he died, but not before getting the slip on Cypher and sending him back. Did he cause it? Maybe. Did he end it? Definitley.
Discord lost the battle but he won the war. Cypher will have to start all over again and take who knows how long to get out of his dimension, but next time, the ponies will probably have prepared by then and avenge their comrade who avenged them.
Technically Bayonetta managed it, but it wasn't intentional: the setup for that battle was Dante's entire goal being her - alive - which he didn't realize and expressed in exactly the worst way. Presumably he's now going to have to find a way to revive her... and probably can. (I do like that setup because it fits both series' narrative flavours: Bayonetta relies on the very long planning, little of it her own, to ensure whatever she feels like doing in the moment will turn out to have been the correct choice, while Devil May Cry lets Dante make loads of critical mistakes on the grounds that he's expected to be both capable and willing to then fix all of them.)
@@Mr._Pancakes well the ponies don't necessarily need to "avenge" him, as discord can just reform if there is enough chaos. they would just have Pinkie Pie, the pink pony, throw a chaotic party and that should revive him.
I would argue Widowmaker vs Black Widow. Widowmaker successfully assassinated her target which Black Widow was tasked with protecting. She dies, but her mission was successful.
Rule 1: if Bill Cipher claims he can see everything chances are he's about to get humbled in some way even if he does end up killing his opponent
He can see all the possibilities, but he can't know what EXACTLY will happen
He knows what can happen, but never which one of those possibilities actually does
@@narrativeless404the downside to seeing infinity; you never know what probability will occur specifically
@@shyguy02.05 Fr
@@shyguy02.05 Why tf another Sans AU!???
@@narrativeless404 oc actually but…Why’s it matter?
A small detail that a lot of people probably missed: from 15:13 onward you can tell that it wasn’t the same dimension because the background looks different, this is when discord saved equestria and transported bill back to his home
Lack of weirdness bubbles and how the rift is blue instead of red :3
Plus, them exiting through a portal made by Discord.
@@luisalvarado754 this what discord get for did to the elements of harmony !
@@franksandoval6046
What?
@@luisalvarado754 I said this what discord get did to the elements of harmony !
@@franksandoval6046translation?
This was just straight up masterful. It’s so heartwarming to see such an old creator not only stick around for so long, but have their content improve drastically! I’m not watching this out of nostalgia, I’m watching it out of pure quality and expert analysis. I’m so impressed and proud of this video
So Boomstick went from stereotypically hating MLP to warming up to it via his daughter?
That's some of the most wholesome character development I've seen :)
As someone with a daughter can attest, every word he said about being a father to a daughter is the truth.
@@flmbyz You can say that again
Having a daughter or niece who likes it and wants to share it with you will do that too you.
@@flmbyzas someone with a foster sister, i got really comfortable with sailor moon and MLP REAL fast
Wait he has a daughter? How did I not know about this?!
It took me a ridiculously long amount of time to realize exactly what was "Discord's" last move. For those of you just a confused as me, with his last reality bending effort discord tossed Bill back into his original dimension that he was trapped in at the beginning of 'Gravity Falls', before he was then immediately defeated. Forcing Bill to 'start all over' in his approach to consuming dimensions again.
I actually figured that out moment he pull it off and the way he behave and acted indicated that this is his plan from the beginning
Thank you for explaining that because I never watched either show lol
It's actually a little more elaborate than that. It seems Discord constructed a fake copy of the Equestria world around Bill (like a box to keep him in) while moving him back into his prison dimension, so that Bill would not notice what was being done. He also presumably attacked Bill's mind despite knowing he would lose just so he could distract Bill long enough to move him.
@@GigaLigmaentonces podríamos considerar esto un empate a medias?, es que Bill salió tan afectado, que es dudosa su victoria
@@rodrigofigueredo4422No, Bill ganó la pelea, no fue empate
Pero fue Discord quien frustró el plan de Bill y salvó Equestria
Básicamente ganó a la larga
Am I the only who loved that Discord may have “lost” the death battle but ultimately won in the end?
Lost the battle but won the war
I mean in lore Discord is a concept and can comeback free while Bill is still trapped though all he needs to do is trick someone into letting him out, so possibly stalemate?
@@lilmatty2466both will come back from death eventually, they are both truly immortal beings
@@ithealsinreverse5958 Bill isn't a truly immortal being because he isn't a universal concept like Discord is. He was forced to invoke the power of the Axolotl to give himself a chance at future reincarnation when he was about to be destroyed but if he didn't then he wouldn't have been able to do so. Despite his overwhelming power, his hubris nearly spelt the true end of him in that moment.
Yeah, I say Discord is the real winner of Death Battle, protecting your loved ones makes you a winner than having world domination. That character also won my respect too.
13:26 here the battle for no nerd stuff but it’s still cool how they work hard on these animations
I like how they did effectively give the win to both of them. In that Bill can't cross dimensional barriers but Discord can, and that would normally decide a battle. But at the same time the rules of Death Battle explicitly require a fatality, so Battle Field Removal would not work. So the idea to have Bill kill Discord but Discord BFR him was very well thought out.
Scooby doo vs Courage, was a draw
@@oscarcarbajal5135 Somebody actively participating in the fight still died though. It just wasn't one of the cartoon dogs because nobody really wanted to see them both kill each other.
I agree! It makes sense that Bill would go for the KILL but not think of some way to save himself trouble in the process. His priority was to defeat Discord while Discord's priorty was to save his friends, which he DID so in a way they both won
@@oscarcarbajal5135 So was Deadpool vs Pinkie.
I mean tehnically it could end with a bfr it would just need to be made correctly
I love everything about the ending. It’s so unique. Bill wins but gets screwed over. The look of anger, the scream of frustration, and the victory pose that feels fresh out of a fighting game.
I like how even if bill technically won, discord really screwed him over as much as possible
allah solos bill cipher
Discord lost the battle, but won the war.
That's what makes this match up so chaotic, it really inversed what a victory and loss was suppose to be.
That is in character for Discord.
@@kappadarwin9476Now *that* was a feat to think about!
Spoilers for the winner:
Imagine if Discord pulled off the victory and Alex Hirsch found out and (pretended to) cancel his future projects because "Death Battle killed Bill"
Na with alternate universes that couldn’t happen
I can’t believe Death Batlle treated Discord better than his own show and comics, even if he lost, he went out like a boss!
You realize Team My Little Pony lost... AGAIN, right?
Will they EVER win?(And don't say no, because I checked.)
@@ericdalhoff3507You realize the very first MLP Death Battle was a win for the pony, right?
Better??
@@ericdalhoff3507 Rainbow Dash won against Starscream, and Pinkie Pie's fight ith Deadpool ended in a happy end for everyone so you can't count that as a win.
@@bosskaiju4834that first fight still runs me the wrong way.
I honestly love how Discord sacrificed himself to put Bill back where he belongs to save his friends. Well mainly Fluttershy but basically his friends. An excellent ending for a peak episode!
In the end, Bill may laugh maniacally but Discord had the last laugh
Discord is also able to resurrect himself so even if bill comes back it will happen all over again creating the ultimate tie.
He also left Fluttershy a letter in the end, the same he has been writing before battle started. Discord knew his future and that he will lose.
@@KirbyStarAnimation I don't think he can in this instance
@@Blaze_the_cat_ Oh, he can. So long as the concept of chaos exists, Discord will always be able to return.
I really hope the creator of Gravity Falls and MLP see this. Especially the real life puppet show part. Thank you, Death Battle for brightening my day.
Which MLP creator, the original or Lauren Faust?
I imagine Lauren Faust, but why not everyone? The more the merrier 😂
I think the characterization in this battle is some of the best in the series imo
The live puppet show was especially hilarious.
it's funny you say that, Alex Hirsch is actually a well stated fan of the show
he first saw death battle about 7 years ago and has been loosely following them since
Fluttershy looking for Discord at the end shatters my heart. Whether its romantic or purely platonic, they clearly love each other
More like a friendly bond. But you're right about one thing: the scene of Fluttershy calling Discord is a pretty sad one. Discord's death may be sad but it was an honorable one. He showed Bill that even though he won the battle, Discord had the last laugh (16:44) all along.
Discord was well prepared since the beginning! He wrote the letter as a goodbye note to Fluttershy and everypony once he managed to get Bill out of Equestria and back to his own realm.
The dude was so carefree and silly that someone with a huge ego like Bill Cypher couldn't pick up on what happened around him! Discord has my respect!
Besides, I highly doubt he's dead. He'll be back. He always does.
Very cool catch. I didn’t realize that the note he wrote at the start of the fight ever up with the ponies/once they were freed given he was out of their world.
Yeah, after all, duplication is in his skill set, and it would be totally fitting to have him appear in a puff of confetti to cheer up Fluttershy after Bill was locked away, making Bill think that the Discord he destroyed was the real (and complete) deal, while tricking the Death Battle cast and audience in the process. Ironically tampering with the fourth wall by hiding things from the audience, rather than talking/making references to those beyond it. I hope that's the case.
He's dead in the death battle universe but not in little pony universe, he can watch the youtube video and try a different approach next time
i never thougn of it but yer that intro is him saying good bye to his friends
yeah i thought "do we truly know discord is dead?" chaos is everything. it isn't dead so therefore discord ain't dead, he'll pop right back up, i have to say, this s one few death balle where i don't give a freak who won because i love this
love discord too
i just realized as i am writing this discord played bill like a freaking poke flute
i first i wondered waht was the place bill was in when the fight started but then, it clicked, it was equestria, discord, this goofy goober goofboy mad man. just played bill like a freaking fool, he played him, he TP'd bill into the nightmare world or whatever bill lives in, and WE THE WATCHERS OF THE VIDEO DID NOT EVEN NOTICE, will played discord, if you were here, i would kiss and hug you
100% in character
Something tells me this Death Battle will be *WAY* more chaotic than Deadpool vs The Mask
Deadpool vs the mask was still more chaotic imo
They had to make up a theoretical law of existence for Deadpool and the Mask. Nothing will be more chaotic than that
It was
yes I hope for more chaotic death battles a battle like wood be funny and crazy 🤣❤
I like that this is a clash of "good and evil" between two gods basically, Discord is casually defending his friends, but clearly knows he very well might die in the process, so he distracts, diverts, annoys, and eventually loses, sure, but manages to screw Bill over in a major way in the end anyway. A lot of series would just have for example, Bill win 5 seconds in, establishing his power by beating the hero's big gun, worfing, but this pays a lot more respect to both sides. Discord is weaker, but he's not weak, he didn't win, but his death wasn't for nothing either, that's why I love this story so much, more could learn from it's example.
Discord, technically, can reform according to their analysis. And I don't think he'd be able to return if he hadn't been destroyed, since he tricked Bill and lured him back home and then closed the way back.
Discord had to lose to win, and couldn't win if he won since he'd be trapped. Which I think is probably intentional writing due to how backwards and insane everything is. As it stands, it might take a while, but eventually Discord gets everything he wants and Bill gets nothing with the way he played this battle.
Discord lost the battle but won the war, and because of his conceptual existence, he will go back to his friends... er... friends of a friend.
Discord came fairly close to winning, actually. He correctly exploited Bill's one weakness, and Bill was starting to "glitch out" just like he was when he was dying in his own show.
It's not the discord was weaker (they're almost dead even. It's very hard to measure the unmeasurable) it's just he isn't as ruthless as Bill, which makes all the difference. In the end, Bill chose domination, while discord chose friendship. This was well written, and goes to show that a character can win a fight, but can still be defeated in the end.
Now remind me if I'm wrong haven't seen the episode in question for a long time but discord being the spirit of chaos didn't he say he could only dissapear if he was no longer chaotic. Cause last I remember he is so blatant and easy going is cause he always reforms as long as he is chaotic? It's why he never truly feared the elements of harmony or the crystal heart or anything really cause as long as he had his power even if he was destroyed he would reform in his chaos dimension. So even the cough destruction/(banishment to the ather) of Sombra was such a easy fix for him and how he didn't fear it beyond just not wanting to be stuck in place again.
“I’M. AN ALL. SEEING. GOD!”
My favorite line in the whole video
Badass move on Discord's part. He may have lost the battle, but he saved Fluttershy and Equestria as a whole! And, as the sidebar notes, he can regenerate from this kinda thing so...He'll be back. Bill may have won, but it gave him NOTHING.
I actually kinda love this sort of ending, and how they've been making story of these, like with silver surfer vs martian manhunter. Like i don't know mlp from anything, but they did incredibly right by Bill; both in how they portrayed him, and the fact that even with his absurd powers, it's in his mentality to win the battle, but lose sight of "the war".
It shows that Death Battle really did made those 2 characters justice.
A battle lost with a purpose is better than a victory with no reward
Discord straight up roasted Death Battle and Rooster Teeth's animation consistency. Respect.
When
It was very close but yeah I understand why discord would win
This wasn't just a good death battle animation, this was just good animation, full stop. They did incredible work on this one!
And to top it off the background song has them singing diss lyrics epic rap battles style at each other.
Yep, this is one of the most creative they've done so far. Popeye vs. Saitama is my favorite though.
"Bill Cipher VS. Discord-" my dumb brain: "DISCORD!? HOW IS BILL GONNA FIGHT 1MILLION+ SERVERS!?"
Same
FR
Ok, but notice at the end, you can see the letter he wrote at the very beginning. Discord knew exactly what would happen and he still fought anyways. Truly, the most selfless chaotic being.
Honestly, this might be one of the most tragic episodes ever. Not just because of Discord's sacrifice... but also because it merely kicked the can down the road. Yes, Discord banished Bill from Equestria, but Gravity Falls' canon proved that Bill can take all the time he needs to trick someone into opening the rift again (just like when he tried to get Ford to do it, then Ford rebelled, and then Bill tricked Mabel into opening it decades later). So even if Discord eventually returns, so will Bill. Over and over, fighting again and again like a funny cartoon on loop.
It makes even more sense when you consider he attacks Bill's eye first. That's when he's taken him back to the Nightmare dimension when he knew Bill wasn't looking. Discord must have played dumb when Weirdmageddon began to enter into Bill's inner circle, as we can see they are taking with each other and Bill doesn't seem to mind his presence.
@@corneliusmaze-eye2459Or when they reached the portal after the puppet show part, maybe discord teleported him in this fake place
I'm glad we didn't get to see exactly what Discord wrote on that note, or else **I'd** be the one KO'd this episode.
@@mrreyes5004 But it gives Equestria time to prepare, assuming Discord in his letter provided some warning about his possible and eventual return.
16:25 the delivery on this line, going from feeling defeat, to knowing discord scored the checkmate. you just hear it in his voice.
The acting has gotten SO good.
16:30 "You dont recognize? your old .... HOME." CHILLS bro.
Ohhh been trying to figure out what he said there for ages. Kept hearing powers instead of home for some reason
The cherry on top is at 16:44. Discord literally laughed at Bill Cipher's face before he died, meaning that in the end, Discord had the last laugh.
@@ARTSONICFAN990 No, the cherry on top was at 14:16. Sorry, couldn't resist.
At first I didn't understood what he meant then I remembered Bill can't escape the Nightmare realm on his own...
That and Weirdmageddon stopped in Equestria (damn it)
You can hear it with his little giggle. “Still… *haha* I’m surprised you…” THATS when his pitch changes with a sinister, evil laugh.
The fact that they were fighting not only in the battle, but in the background music as well is amazing
Is there a place to download the music?
Same with Darkseid vs Thanos, Ryu vs Jin, and Apocalypse vs Black Adam
@@quesocoatl21Search ‘Discordant Decipher’ by Brandon Yates.
I actually didn’t notice this until I listened to Brandon’s song in its own. 😮😊
I just realized this song fits both sides too. It sounds like a song that would be in MLP and it has that eerie cryptic sound and backwards message like in Gravity Falls
They say Bill Cipher won this but I think Discord had the last laugh in the end. Master manipulator after all XD
And a lesson as old as time: No mater how many aces you have up your sleeves, the moment you underestimate the one you face against. You lose the war.
Discord should have lost in my opinion.
Imagine Alex Hirch and Lauren Faust reacting to this
Tbh, someone should send this to them.
Heck, imagine John de Lanice react to it.
I imagine both would be pleased how the characters were written.
@@billymccrary2246
JL: why i am figjting thr talking pyramide
better yet somehow get Hirch and De Lanice to redo the voices, that would be epic
I love all the different animation styles used in the fight and how pretty evenly matched they were. And that unexpected ending was so good. Bill may have won, but Discord definitely got the last laugh. His sacrifice for the magic of friendship will never be forgotten.
Bill is just the agent of chaos while discord is the definition of it. Yeah I could already see who won this one, it's the lord of chaos ✨
Edit: so bill actually won the battle, but discord won the war by saving Fluttershy and whole Equestria :D🌠
And it's also been established in the lore that Discord will always reform since he has to exist. He's a concept, you can't destroy a concept. He will always come back just we don't know how long
@@SleepyWhistlesI have the spoilers if you want lol
I can see them invading the analysis now.
@@AE_15xSo do I. I'll change my comment to reflect them after the premiere.
Yes! @@DanGamingFan2406winner🏆discord's this we won🏆🎉my little pony friendship is magic i like it❤
I love how the fight script played out in ways that give homage to both source material's inspirations. Bill is a true-to-form Lovecraftian Entity, you can't actually kill him, only seal him away at great sacrifice. Likewise, Discord is much like the old classic trickster gods, someone who can mess with higher beings and make clever plans, but is ultimately not all that strong and more out to cause mischief than take over things, making them more like a mid-boss for heroes and victims for villains alike.
He isn't exactly weak, he can do SO much more, just chooses not to cuz it's funny. However, Discord can always come back soon, just not very fast. Bill won a fight but at the cost of being sent back to his realm, while Discord literally can't fully die as long as Discord exists.
@@tristancummings5925Eh seeing as he can time travel, he can come back instantly for everyone else. For him a long time would have passed.
this death battle gets debunked, its rigged bill cipher is at best universal and discord multiversal+ i can type an essay on why and show their attack potency, lifting and striking strenght, speed ect.
This battle reminded me how impressive it was for Alex Hirsch and crew to make a tortilla chip with a hat one of the most terrifying creatures in TV history
Not really... They all seeing eye has been scary for many many years... Alex just used it
Illuminati Dorito chip
@@TheDeathmail I would love to see a video of Alex Hirsch reacting to this battle, like how Butch Hartman reacted to the Jake Long vs Danny Phantom battle. I feel like Alex would enjoy the battle, and likely the banter between Discord and Bill during the analysis. Dude would probably be hella flattered they used Bill as a combatant.
God, hearing Fluttershy like that hit me in the feels. This was a great episode.
You know that's a clip from an actual episode, right?
She won’t have to worry since discord will resurrect and will have his fight with bill all over again for eternity which is funny for how the two will have to deal with each other for all eternity.
@@Violent_Wolfen which one is it?
@@Violent_Wolfenwhich episode was that again? I don’t recognize that scene at all.
@@KirbyStarAnimation how can he be resurrected though? He's erased
This is the first Death Battle where I honestly think fans of the loser will enjoy it more than fans of the winner. (As a fan of both I’m the true winner). This is some of the best characterization and story telling DB has ever done.
Facts.
Bill is one of my absolute favorite characters and the ending is one of the most perfect endings for him, getting screwed over by his opponent even though he won.
I do love them both, but I'm more attached to MLP and Discord overall. And while I do kinda disagree with the ending, even if I can't fault them for coming with the conclusion they made because this really is a close match and either of them can win, I could not be happier with the ending they gave the fight. I think this is one of the only DBs where both combatants win and lose at the exact same time and like, they did it so in tune with both of their characters. Because like let's be honest, who actually wants Bill to truly win? He's cool but he's completely evil going against someone completely neutral. If he had to win, I'm really happy it wasn't a complete victory. And that's not because I hate him or anything, he's objectively one of the greatest cartoon villains of all time, but it's because it's a fitting end to the fight and a nice conclusion to the conflict and story of it. Discord may have lost the fight, but he still won in a sense. Even if it had to be a sacrificial death, he saved Equestria and his friends, mainly Fluttershy, from Weirdmaganon and Bill and screwed him over again for who knows how long. Which is really in tune for his character by the end of the series.
Basically, even if I don't agree with the winner of the fight, how can I be mad when the fight was everything I could have wanted and more with a perfect ending? This is absolutely one of the top 5 DBs ever.
Sadly no, I actually know how unfair this fight is against Bill
You speak the truth, my good person~
11 months later and we figure out that bill ciphers race is literally euclydean
This fight's ending was kind of genius, actually.
Really think about it; Discord probably knew he would lose the fight. Hence why he left that letter behind for the others. And Bill was so hyperfocused on killing Discord, who could still keep up using his tricks, that he never realized that the two of them had left Equestria.
Discord dies at the end, yes. But by the endcard's own admission, as long as chaos still exists, Discord will come back, even if it's not quick enough to continue the battle. So what did he do?
He traps Bill back in his home dimension.
Bill won, sure. But nobody likes to see the bad guy get the last laugh, right?
Tricking Bill into going back to his dimension was his plan from the beginning. At 15:12, the "invaded Equestria" does not have weirdness bubbles and at 15:34 the portal's color is blue instead of red at the start. That was when Discord took the fight to the Nightmare Realm disguised as Equestria by him and Bill didn't realize in his hyperfocus on defeating him.
Discord's attempt at invading Bill's mind was further stalling to provoke and distract him as well, that's why he said "it was worth a try".
It was never about winning for Discord. It was about saving his friend's friends
Eh bill got there once he can do it again I mean like he ain’t dead
I don’t know about that last sentence.
Discord may be reformed, but he’s not THAT reformed.
So Bill won the battle, but Discord won the war.
@@DamontheDemon7 Bill was still definitely the badder dude in this fight, though.
This death battle was insane!
thumbs up
Super and fabulous
Nice 👍
Dude, you can say that again
Nice 👍
The people working on this episode had to have been huge fans of both these shows. That is the only explaination for why the animation is so damn good. Like on top of a lot of the 2d stuff looking like it came straight out of their respective series, the background work is amazing as well and Bill VA does an amazing impression, sounds almost exactly like the official VA. Also some of the shots/idea are amazing, like Bill holding a soul with his shattered glass eye bleeding black blood is so good it should be in a official Gravity Falls episode. Like no joke, that is like top 5 Bill Cipher shots/scenes level good, it looks that official.
The animators are at their best when they're able to cut loose like this. Why restrain themselves when their animating two characters that have no limits?
This also probably by far the most debatable matchup in Death Battle, to the point of Death Battle even stating themselves that these two were almost even in every category Bill just had a very slight edge. I love how close this matchup was and I'm glad even though Discord lost he still went out with not only bang, but also a hero.
Fr. Haven't seem a fight this close since night wing vs daredevil
Happy one year anniversary of one of the best death battles ever.
I’m not an MLP fan but seeing Fluttershy call out Discord that hit me hard and I just wanted to give her a hug.
Me too.
i never liked the show but discord was my favourite character
even though i never knew his name as a kid
Can't say I blame you.
At least on the brightside, he left her a note on how to bring him back to life.
i like hog too dog the
I'm honestly surprised that a world of literal magic-casting unicorns weren't more of a barrier against Bill.
they didn't use their hair
The hair isn't so effective you can only make a barrier against bill nothing more plus his really smart
I think you have to link the hair together to form a barrier
BATTLE BETWEEN TWO VILLAINS OF DEATH BATTLE,
You need other ingredients. Unicorn hair is just the most important. Besides, the MLP universe probably didn't even know Bill existed until his arrival.
I love when characters are so powerful that Wiz doesn't even bother calculating Strength, speed or durability. And instead has to measure how reality reacts to their existence 😂
Yep and discord would have survived if he didn't go inside bills mind he just got tired of the stale mate
So, we now know what happened to Bill after the events of Weirdmageddon! Spoilers for the Book of Bill:
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Bill pleaded the Axolotl for another chance at life, feigning remorse for his crimes.* He thought the Axolotl would fall for this ploy, but he didn't expect the fate it decided for him. The Axolotl gave Bill what he hated the most, as well as what he needed the most: Therapy. It sent Bill's half-dead soul to a place called the Theraprism, where malevolent entities are rehabilitated before being reincarnated into a new form. Bill wrote the Book of Bill during the Therapeutic Journaling Arts and Crafts Hour, in an attempt to get someone to shake his statue's hand and summon him once again. Did it work? Well, that depends... Wanna make a deal?
*This might not have been completely a lie. Bill was born in a 2-dimensional world very similar to the story Flatland. Everyone there was a geometric shape only capable of seeing 1-dimensional images of 2-dimensional space, like how we can only see 2-dimensional images of 3-dimensional space. However, Bill was born with a rare defect in his eye that allowed him to see the third dimension. Much like in Flatland, it was forbidden to talk about higher dimensions. Nobody else knew what Bill meant when he was talking about the stars or "looking up." Bill was frustrated by these flat beings with flat dreams, so he tried to liberate his dimension so everyone could see what he saw. There was screaming, burning, and something about the sitcom Family Matters, until only Bill remained, covered in blood. Bill could have repressed this memory and might truly believe that he liberated his dimension and that everyone was thankful for it.
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"...took a lot of glue. Good thing your friends make their own."
I just picked up on this, Bill grinding Pony Hooves into homade glue seems like somthing he would do. Fits his morbid sense of humor...
It’s a layed joke and it’s perfected
I thought he was saying they made their own merchandise lol
@@creationisntgood942 both, its both
"Now if you'll excuse me, I have some ponies I need to make into glue,"
I also like the detail that Discord repeatedly went for Bill's eye, which I think he stated hurts the most to regenerate
Is that what he said in reverse?
He didn't say it hurts the most to regenerate, he just got annoyed that his eye kept being a target in the show
He said:
'ARGH! MY EYE, WHY!? EVERY TIME!! DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THAT TAKES ME TO REGENERATE!?'
So, it apparently takes the LONGEST to regenerate, but... Not really that long considering he was fine after that scene.
It also wouldn't hurt him because he can't feel pain, not unless he's possessing someone and they get hurt.
@@tau-5794 yea but he get his physical body now so its hurt
I’m surprised no one is mentioning it but the note discord was writing at the start of the fight is there infront of fluttershy. This implies that discord KNEW how the fight would go and end and it was a goodbye message for her and not a letter to celestia.
When he says "It was worth a try..." I feel that was hinting that he was hoping he could put Bill down, but accepted the possibility it might not have worked from the get go. He was definitely prepared to die if things didn't go right.
16:52 full circle!!! 😀
[SPOILERS FOR THE BATTLE] You know I find it incredible how despite how Bill killed Discord, Discord still had the last laugh and kind of won at the end, since he trapped him in his old dimension.
That's true until Bill finds someone desperate enough to make a deal.
And Discord ensured his own Revival by setting his Universe back to normal!
Yeah but bill will eventually break out and discord will reform and thus they’ll start an endless cycle one where bill wins the battle each time but discord keeps winning the war.
The ultimate sacrifice.
Discord started as a villain and lived long enough to become the hero.
It makes sense though, its more like an infinite tie since Bill Will get reincarnated If he dies and discord Will Reform, tbh the battle is kinda pointless, but quite fun to watch non the less
I love how accurate each character is. The voice work is great, but the writing is on point too. Little things, like Discord opening the fight with a parody of Twilight's letters or Bill losing his temper when things aren't going his way, just made it more entertaining. Though I hoped Discord could pull it off in the end, it made sense that Bill would be the victor. But the reveal that Discord was sacrificing himself for everyone else, made him into a hero. And, in my opinion, the true winner of the fight.
Bill won the battle but discord won the war
And the letter he wrote at the start of the fight was right there with the ponies.
@@aywhd3494 Plus, he won't stay dead forever. He'll be back and he can just time travel back to the moment he died, so he won't miss anything with Fluttershy.
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