The EU costs you the same as Netflix - is it worth it? Rem Koolhaas thinks so.
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In the week of the EU elections, the Dutch architects Rem Koolhaas and Stephan Petermann are working to create a new image of the EU, by moving it away from that of a faceless bureaucracy and considering its key achievements. With data sourced from the European commission, here are their nine reasons why EU membership, at roughly the same cost as a monthly Netflix subscription, is worth it
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De EU is even duur als Netflix. Is het dat waard? ► ruclips.net/video/85VvUmDfeK8/видео.html
@PEW PEW BOOM it's the title of this video, but in Dutch :)
Nog altijd duurder dan je moe
@@MRTN13 c
We are leaving the e.u haha guardian leftwing extremists get used to loosing.
The feeling you get when crossing a border and IMMEDIATELY being welcomed by cities, people and languages, without any hassle or difficulties. It is just the best. Imagine, you can become friends with someone in Poland, and meet together with your Italian family in Denmark.
Yeah great but i think us British will go find our own friends
Why could you not do that without the EU? Duuurrrhh.
@@skulptor Because even if these people stay the same, there were far right nutjobs which will blame you for coming to their country and conspire with the polish stealing Italian woman and inflating Danish house prices.
Of course you could create a union where countries sort out their differences, create a common legal system and harmonize trade to create the possibility of having unchecked boarders.
ALL THE THINGS YOU COULD DO UNDER THE EEC EU IS NOT
EUROPE IT IS THE DEATH OF EUROPE
2 hours wait at frontier
Where were these videos before the referendum?
They take time and money, and everyone (include Farage) thought Remain would win, because it’s obviously dumb to leave the world’s biggest trading bloc in which we have various privileges. Moreover, when Cameron did try to educate people on the advantages of Remain, the Leave side took this as cheating on the referendum spending (even though it was outside of the campaigning period, just like the decades of bendy-banana tabloid lies) and decided it justified _actually_ cheating via Cambridge Analytica.
@@Correctrix, the EU isn't just a trading bloc though is it? The EU is a political project that not one single UK Citizen ever voted to join in the first place, but one that has been imposed on us through stealth without our consent, just so that we can be allowed to trade with other countries. There are around 170 or so non-EU countries on the rest of the planet that seem to manage perfectly fine without having to be joined politically to their trading partners, so there is no need to be joined politically to your trading partners in order to do business with each other.
The argument for the EU is about the UK and 27 others democratically sticking together for economic strength and world trade. If that was the case then I would have no problem with it, but the EU is a political project first, with nothing democratic about it, that wants to consume the individual nation "states" into their EU umbrella to create a one-size-fits-all European Superstate, a United States of Europe through the back door, with those once individual countries subservient to a bunch of unelected, out of touch bureaucrats based in Brussels. Those that create EU policy, the Commission (the only true power within the whole corrupt EU structure, despite what you would like to tell us all otherwise) can never be removed at the Ballot Box if you don't like any of their policies because they will never stand for election in the first place. There is already a massive disconnect between the London-centric UK Parliament and the rest of the UK, how much more of a disconnect is there between a Brussels-led EU Commission and the UK itself?
I am just looking at the bigger picture, and right now I can see what the EU is well on its way to becoming. Why does a trading bloc even need its own President (or five), its own (sham) Parliament, it's own Supreme Court, with jurisdiction over all member "States" Courts, its own Flag, its own Anthem, its own Currency, Outer Borders/Open Borders, and now, seemingly, its own "Military Task Force"?
@@Bahama3ay No one in England or Scotland voted to join the UK either, but these things develop over time, leaving citizens to be born into situations they didn’t choose. I was born English, British and European.
It is a good political project, which has brought peace and unity in our time, and a good economic bloc, which has brought us all prosperity. It is dumb to leave it on a whim.
@@Correctrix, the EU has only existed in its present political form since 1993. There's nearly 50 years of peace with no EU.
@@Correctrix, you have fallen into the often selective history surrounding the UK's economic difficulties of the 1960's and 1970's prior to EEC membership, and correlating the UK's present day economic success as a direct link to the UK's EEC/EU membership, which is pure speculation at best. The UK still suffered economic difficulties after it joined the EEC/EU in 1973, so much so that it needed to apply to the IMF for a bailout in 1976.
The UK being the successful economy that it is today cannot be directly linked to being a member of the EU. It wasn't because of being in the EEC/EU that the UK became economically successful, it was because the UK kicked the Corbyn-style socialist mentality that was rife throughout UK industry in the 1960's and 1970's to the kerb and embraced capitalism in the 1980's and beyond. The UK became economically successful despite the EEC/EU, not because of it.
Our mainstream media has generally been negative about the EU since the 1960s; Now that it's too late you're all telling us how wonderful it is 😶
SkyEcho7 the Guardian has always been pretty internationalist as a left wing newspaper. Although I’m not sure exactly how it’s treated the EU over the years and it certainly could’ve done more, they’re now the strongest mainstream pro-EU news source in the UK I’d say.
SkyEcho7 wasnt it only founded in 1993
The news doesn’t offer any anti EU arguments at all. What are you even talking about.
@@tomicsbalazs7940 If you're being pedantic about the name / powers then yes but I was referring to the EU under ALL its forms
David Ulanovsky cause most arguments made are bullshit?
Through the EU we citizens of Europe have become one. All negative things about the Union aside, it has brought us closer than ever before. As a young person, I would love to get to know many of my neighbours.
Tell that to the far-right fascistic movements in Hungary, Italy, France and Germany, and the migrants trapped in Libya and Turkey. I'm a lefty and hate borders but you've got to face facts. The EU is in an incredibly tenuous place and to say we are 'closer than ever' in the face of this rising tide is to rather put one's head in the sand. Without serious reform, the EU and freedom of movement as we know it could easily collapse in the face of migration due to climate change, global economic crisis, austerity or all three. Much needs to be done if you want your idea to be a long-term reality. I'm not in the slightest bit nationalistic, but unfortunately you and I don't represent the people of Europe. We represent a small, mostly middle-class portion of the population and one day our voices will not be as stridently heard.
@@artistsometimes2729 value your opinion but I'd rather stick with the middle ground, the whole socialism thing never worked. Id go for strong public services, worlds best NHS and low taxation. Start with a living wage for everyone and a minimum income paid to everyone by the state. I have no ill feels for the rich, you work hard you should be rewarded!!
@@artistsometimes2729 : At the moment it seems mainly the UK having a problem with far-right parties controlling the policy.
I think the freedom of movement reforms you favor would rather weaken the EU not strengthen it.
@@karstenschuhmann8334 which far right parties are controlling UK policy?
@@davidwinters8325 : UKIP and the Brexit Party don't have a majority in parliament. But, still they control the policy.
Where was all of this is 2016 & before. We were so let down by the remain campaign.
I will get it to you if so it wt
The EU should have a whole department to publish all the investments it makes
You can not use a logical argument to change an emotional decision. Ask any person in any family.... 👀👀
People make their own decisions. You seem to be lamenting that fact.
BuT bEndY BaNaNas!!!
Kyle EU army. Still a dangerous fantasy?
@@o00nemesis00o Yes its still a fantasy. A joined structure is not an Eu Army. You would have had VETO power to any EU Army. So the only possibility of an EU Army would be if the UK would vote for it.
@Naughty internet person: Shapiro, are you talking about the guy that uses falty analysis of real data to prove his point?
Super but It's a bit late, non?
It's not perfect but it's citizen live in peace and get a lot of rights across a whole continent.
BECAUSE OF NATO AND THE FACT GERMANY WAS OCCUPIED TILL 1989 AND COULD NOT START A 3rd WAR
Dear@@danielspillett5393, are you aware that people think shouting is gross? The occupation of Germany was no oppression of the German military forces but a defense against the Soviet Union.
The EU has really done what was intended, the common market interlinked the European nations in a way that made any rational argumentation for an internal war impossible.
@@karstenschuhmann8334 The EU should have stayed a trade union nothing more nothing less
@@Burningsteel Margarete Thatcher was quite active in transforming it into the EU. A simple trade union does not allow for the freedom of service (especially financial service) the only aspect of commerce the UK has a surplus.
Yeah it's worth it.
Where is your place in the world GB?
The Empire is gone. The Commonwealth just a gentleman's cricket club...
U.S. lapdog?
How about one of the "Three Musketeers" of Europe instead?
It's ok we don't need a place in the world that's why alot of people here voted out in the 1st place
We’re Brits we’ll bounce back
Well every country in the world bar about 3 are taught to speak our language and the bridging language for everyone is English, so there’s that.
Also, the commonwealth still has its place and has much more influence than you think.
To be honest I can't find anything I want to watch on Netflix so it's hardly value for money
Thing is with Netflix is I can opt out when I want.
Lol lol, made me smile but very true 🤸♂️🤸♂️
You can, but you can't opt out your neighbours Netflix subscription.
You can opt out of the EU whenever you want. You just can't use it any longer. If you depending on netflix it is not the problem of netflix.
You swallowed the lie of "having the cake and eat it". Leaving would always have been easy if the leave campaign hadn't promised undeliverable things. Get a mandate for a no deal and leave within 5minutes.
@@PeterGracar ooooh..SNAP..awesome comeback..love you
Yeah I spend 39 billion and 8 billion a year on Netflix’s .... ?!!!
Kid, think before writing. Average EU citizens pay 187€ per year. So yes, if you pay your taxes, you actually pay a Netflix subscription to the EU every year.
The EU is the best thing that has happened to Europe. But it's also the worst advertised and least transparent organisation in Europe.
Long live the EU!
Long live European people, EU is a scam
@@alterego157 your mum's a scam
@xm3 drink your soy milk and be quiet gayboy
@@alterego157 Shakin and crying rn
I guess those who have canceled Netflix aren’t allowed to speak on this
Absolutely NOT! Netflix is about £108 a Year: The EU cost 8 Billion for a year after refund.
John Smythe The cost is per capita
If for the cost of Netflix then let's pay the UK when were outside the EU and have all the benefits for ourselves sunless this is bs
Anyone know the name of the song playing in the background?
How do ppl mix up the EU trading market with a government of Europe
EU can be the example for the US to follow.
If they're into suicide, sure
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i know a lot of you weren't happy with our inclusion in Eurovision but can Australia please join up with the EU?
I don't like our chances between China and the US.
In 2018 Australia and the EU started the negotiations to a free trade deal. It is a first step.
If you’re eligible to take part in Eurovision, then you ought to be able to join the EU.
Can't Bulgaria just let us use the password to their EU account, then we can all watch Stranger Things season 3 and still get trillions of extra pounds a week for the the NHS.
use a vpn dude.
Not quite as it's not trillions and the government are committed to turning this into the 51st failed state of America.
So who has the power? Who controls things? In the US clearly vested interests and money are running both the democratic and republican parties, in addition to an unfortunate increase in politicizing the Supreme Court. Who is holding a sovereign country accountable? Why are Russia so keen on breaking up the EU and undermine US democratic principles? The smallest countries in the EU have a relative larger voting share than the largest countries within the EU like Germany, France, the UK etc. Lobbyists have a very hard time getting legislative exemptions or catering for special interest in the EU as they will have to lobby all countries to get the required more than 260 votes (representing some 313 million European citizen (that is a lot of door to door convincing) - it is a lot easier to go to a handful of parliamentarians or party leaders in the UK or US and provide them with the right "incentives" (=trips, campaign funding etc). The elite, the powerful and big money do not like the EU, but those same constituencies would like to feed the public with the opposite narrative, so they can regain control.....why do you think Boris Johnson who went to Eaton is against the EU.....I am not sure Eaton graduates represents the average UK citizen or their interests. Anyway EU has loads of problems to resolve....
Politicians are too far removed from the people, your solution is another layer of government on top in another country that you can't even vote out.
What's the music on this? Shazam and Soundcloud coming up short :(
Hi Anthony, it's a library track from Epidemic called Fill in the Blanks (Instrumental) by someone called Ril Smrt
@@theGuardian Thanks for your swift reply!
I AM A EUROPEAN BUT NOT EU
So where are you from Belarus?
Really? UK net contribution to EU = £8.9 billion. 27 million UK households X £5.99 monthly Netflix X 12 months = £1.9 billion.
@@benlittle7799, and you're forgetting that the £8.9 billion IS what we pay to the EU AFTER the "rebate" - which in actual fact is just UK taxpayers money handed back to the UK by the EU to con the gullible into thinking that the UK is getting something out of the EU that it isn't - it's money that already belonged to the UK in the first place, it's UK taxpayers money. On top of that the UK HAS to spend these "rebates" (UK taxpayers money) on what the EU has already decided the UK has to spend it on, then after that they are told they have to display that disgusting blue flag with gold stars and declare that it has been "funded" by the EU - wrong, it has been funded by the UK's taxpayers, whether they wanted to fund it or not.
I don't have Netflix subscription
Me neither. It's too expensive, you have barely any representation of good films, it's just bigged up as the greatest thing since they drove the actually pretty good Blockbuster out of business.
I can see why comparisons to the EU are merited.
How the hell is it that I'm seeing this video literally THE DAY AFTER VOTING ENDED (we actually voted on Thursday I know)?!?!?!
This is crazy! The video should have been mandatory beforehand.
peace in Europe for the first time in 2000 years or being able too watch the Rick and morty.... Hmm thats a Tuff one..
yes but no
you can watch rick and morty without netflix, look it up.
The peace comes courtesy of NATO.
The EU has only existed in its present political form since 1993. There's nearly 50 years of peace with no EU.
Thanx NATO.
YES
these slides transition to fast
You can reduce the video speed in the cog icon
Yes, very fast, but the video would be too long without it. And it really makes a good point about how many positives there are to being in the EU 😍 Maybe set it to play 0.5 speed?
Brittain, you old carcass, get on with the times!
cool video but I needed 0.5 speed to read the stuff
Great video 😍🇪🇺
Well, this comments section isn't going to be pleasant.
I even dare to say it’s going to be unpleasant.
And then they fucked their reputation with articles 11 & 13.
The thing is, I can just cancel my Netflix subscription.
You sure can. Just like a country can cancel it's membership to the EU. After you cancel your subscription you can't watch Netflix anymore though. And, unless you sign a new deal, a country loses full participation in the EU single market after 'cancelling'.
@@GilleanFreire You mean British Steel who are being shafted by the EU?... That British Steel?
@@GilleanFreire: The EU restricts the way to bailout companies, as this could lead to market distortions. Still saving British Steel could be realized even according to EU rules, so blaming the EU is a red herring.
Even more, if Farage is blaming the EU he is acting dishonestly. The Brexit uncertainty was the last nail in the coffin of an already tumbling giant.
We can't have that, you must obey the overlords
@@alterego157 : Farage, Johnson or Mogg?
You've just calculated the money the UK govt contributes to the EU budget, but you've not added the cost of the EU's protectionist tariffs and regulations to the consumer. Especially the poorest. The real cost is far higher than Netflix.
Ad Tastic even so, we still get so much from it.
not worth it
Netflix > EU + license fee + the Guardian newspaper.
What has the EU got to do with the license fee? You're conflating separate issues
Your right to: Cultural enrichment, a million or more economic migrants a year
Actually no, take a look at Hungary and samo eastern europe contries
Konstantin Cvetanovic Hungary threatened with punishment for not obeying Fuhrer Merkel.
You do realise free movement only means WITHIN the EU, the UK already has control of immigration from outside of Europe and its the Tory government that choose have immigration at this level, not the EU.
The vast majority of the Moslem migrants coming into the UK are not refugees but workers from Pakistan. Their number is already increasing as European migrants avoid the UK since the referendum.
I’m a European who loves its diverse culture and customs ,, I, however, despise the institution that is the EU
That maybe so but some countries get it for free or are paid to watch it. Who pays for that the U.K. and all the other net payees
Refund please
If one can't read the text fast enough,the video is rendered useless - it wants to appear impressive, but ends up being non-informative at the same time (unless you want to pause/unpause every half second at certain places). What if it had been 5 mins long instead of 3.5 but one can actually read the text?
Change the video speed to slower in the settings. I think they did a great job of not 'labouring' any point too much. It comes across balanced to me, and I'm happy to rewatch on a slower setting for all the details
@@Lifya Most people won't rewatch, it's not about the few who would, but to get the point across to as many as possible :) i.e. doing it right the first time
@@Lifya Playing it in half speed has the added bonus of turning it from a banging house anthem into a glitchy piece of IDM. Sounds a bit like Amon Tobin if he had only a fraction of the talent.
You're just really dumb, mate. Like, borderline intelectually handicapped. I can read it fine.
Thucydides not everyone can, stop hating on those who can’t? I mean why call him dumb? Doesn’t make any sense
And amazingly - if you just finished high school you can move to Barcelona and work in a bar or go grape picking in France etc. etc. This was the mobility of freedom people had in the 1940s and 1950 - my Dutch granddad traveled to the US and Canada and wherever he went he would just popped in and ask for a job....freedom, mobility, cultural exchange....
So true. There is a crowd that seems to believe after Brexit an aeroplane is never going to leave the UK again.
Where's that new referendum...?
1984
Get us out of the EU
it's great to go to places and feel no borders but it's so unfair to vote for a country that you don't live
Ukraine!that's not worked out so well with EU meddling.
@s b It started a civil war.
At least 4 weeks of paid vacation???? Yall need to keep that privilege. Sincerely, Americans (zero weeks guaranteed vacation.. let alone paid)
So you admit it costs us money.
Beautiful
Bet you never got permission from netflix to use there logo.
great video, I would love to live in eu, hope we unite as one beutiful world one day
Not gonna happen, mate.
CE is goverment by BCE, a private corporation.
That's like saying you pay someone £5 to rob your house then argue it only cost £5
I'm glad that you mentioned it. The original European Union (that is the European Coal and Steel Community) was established to make countries dependent on each other through a common market. Easier traveling, customs union, free trade. What European Union is right now is very very far away from that noble original idea. The European Parliament and other EU organs interfere with nations' internal policies, influence political campaigns in the member states, "promotes" freedom of speech by supporting media of their very subjective choice etc. Guy Verhofstadt and other people like him do not even hide the fact that what they want is for the member states to transfer their sovereignty and powers to the EU. Most of the newer member states had their sovereignty transferred to Moscow for a half of the last century. It also was for the greater good.
I think Norway and Switzerland are in the best situation. They too have the free travelling thing going on, they also trade freely with the Union, their higher education and scientific community is very well incorporated in the European system, but they do not have to put up with thousands of pages of legislative, that weekly leaves Brussels never to be read again.
i pay for netflix coz i like it
Eu = rights?
Especially article 11 & 13, which one was forced by changing name of it.
Talk to me about how the EU Galileo PRS programme is keeping us safe, and what it will mean to be outside it.
The EU just got an awesome music video.
Now answer me this please: what music is this?
Hi, it's a library track from Epidemic called Fill in the Blanks (Instrumental) by someone called Ril Smrt
The big problem with this analogy is that you can always cancel Netflix if you don’t want it.
CE is goverment by ECB, a private corporation.
ID pls
Anyone got the track i.d .........?
The issue the EU has is Germany and France have always wanted to be in control. They need to let go, and allow the new member states in Eastern Europe to take far more responsibility, and govern Europe. Its no longer acceptable for Germany and France to hold all the power in what was supposed to be a democracy.
Just listing the positives gets us nowhere. You will never understand people who voted to Leave if you don't reckon with the serious systemic flaws at the heart of the EU, and lending of powers given to sovereign parliaments by the people, alas democracy, to unaccountable, bureaucratic and frankly corrupt neoliberal institutions. One big problem is the Eurozone, and the EU has no way of addressing that for two reasons; it can't be faced by national parliaments, constrained as they are by European monetary policy and it can't be faced by international european level organisations since fiscal powers will never be devolved to that level, French, Spanish, Italian heck even German citizens will never agree to this.
It's not a case of the EU not doing good things. It's the false concept that these things are ONLY possible through the EU or at least the current structure of the EU. That there is no room for reform, or that national parliaments could not agree to do this through international agreements that protect sovereignty and by consequence democracy. The EU is not one demos. It's made of hundreds of different, warring nationalities, each battling for dominance. Germany currently leads with its huge export lead, but if it were not Germany it would be France. The EU as it stands is, in my opinion, not fit for purpose. No amount of "good" legislation will deal with this. It's a question of structure and systemic flaws.
Until this is addressed in a meaningful, dare I say revolutionary way then far-right fascist forces will keep rising by scapegoating immigrants, while the EU continues to pile on austerity and say that there is no alternative. An idiom of Thatcher, it will drive millions to despair and into the hands of the only people that seem to 'understand' them, to get the unfairness of the system. Fascists. So stop patting yourselves on the back, and talking up the dream of a 'united' Europe. Try improving the daily lives of average people through systemic reform. Otherwise this whole debate will be rendered meaningless.
All this can be done between countries and not having to pay a middle man CRAZY amounts of money for it. That's £13BILLION a year with £4BILLION coming back. All for something that each EU country can do together. I'll take Brexit and save that money for our own country thanks and not give away more state aid to other EU countries.
No - I want a rebate!
Netflix?? nuff said
The thing I want is that our country has more power. There are powerful people that want the eu to be a country and the countries states like in the usa.
LK 1602 more cooperation would be nice
You're country all ready has all the power. It can decide 99% of laws and vote on the remaining laws with the other members of the EU. Can you honestly say that your country doesn't even share 1% of its values with its neighbours. People in government asking for more power for each country are lying to you, they want power for themselves and getting you to believe their lie is how they hope to gain power.
I agree. We must have an EU that gets the things listed here done but at the same time respects the countries' autonomy on other issues.
What's stopping us working with the EU to do all the things listed in the video while not being a member of the EU, oh that's right absolutely nothing.
The UK payed £13 billion in 2017-2018 in EU membership fees and only saw a return of £4 billion in EU projects, some of which are listed in this video.
Wake up people, you don't need a club card to shop at Tesco, especially one that costs you £9 billion, to prop up all the failing stores.
@@pupip55 Yes it is, we can do all those projects ourselves and have it cost £4 billion and not £13 billion, if we choose to help out EU countries with financial aid it should be our choice and not forced through a membership fee.
Rem Koohass can read fast
didn't you just attribute too many things to the EU?
What about losing your sovereignty
Really? Because of EU regulations I now pay 200EUR a month for my medication instead of 5EUR
Last time I checked Netflix didn't cost 195,-EUR a month.
A maximum working week of 48 hours and rest breaks? What about OMA, Mr. Koolhaas? Hypocrites..
The "Office for Metropolitan Architecture" ?
Out means out.
By definition, right? But that’s not an _argument_ for being out, is it now?
@@Correctrix the vote was . Leave or remain lol out means out :)
In means in. Up means up. Down means down. Do the hokey cokey and shake it all about.
@@Jimmy4video better in, in alot of cases lol sometimes better pulling out :)
@@thepenetrator2006 No. You’re confused. First come arguments, _then_ decisions about what’s best.
Brexit is so stupid
Yeah it's a little late for dumb arguments like this because after all Prince and Princess scrounger only cost me 50p is it worth it, No. Not when I'm eating at a food bank.
The difference is I can cancel my Netflix subscription.
Netflix doesn't force my country to take immigrants from the Middle East and Africa.
Love Europe, hate the EU.
Aren't any of you the slightest bit worried about the EU in the future and what it could do if it becomes more powerful? We have talks of a European army, we could be hindered from getting good trade deals with the emerging markets of the world and we will have more red tape and regulations as well as becoming more disenfranchised as more member states enter. It's arrogant to think that the organisation has benevolent leaders and will do so in the future.
You don't need to hand power over to Brussels in order for countries to cooperate. And there's absolutely no reason to assume that Brussels can spend your Netflix subscription any better than we can - although, apparently some people do.
The EU is made up of it's separate parts, it sounds as if what you are saying is that we are handing over decisions to some third party without any skin in the game, which is not true
Awesome Avenger that argument is so bad!!! Your are not handing over any power whatsoever, because EVERY state has veto power and can use that when they are not happy with something, like a new law. Even Malta with very little people could veto a trade agreement concerning the entire union, and it wouldn’t go thought. It’s power in numbers, not taking away power from the members.
We can cooperate together if we don't form long lasting cooperation? Yes lets just spend all our time negotiating with the 28 countries around us. Much more efficient.
@@Jimmy4video Then I guess you'll be wanting political union with the US too?
Ok, Ayn Rand, thanks.
Being in the eu is worth the money we give to it, but staying in it is not worth the blow to democracy it would represent
What the 'landslide' that was 51% and only 2 of the 4 nations? Plus how is being given a further opportunity to vote, in light of everything that's come to pass over the last 3 years, undemocratic?
@@simonkelleher7329 no one had said it was a landslide. And all of the facts about what leaving the eu would do were there. There is no new information on it, and to hold another referendum would set a precedent that you can have referendums until you get the result you want. If it had been that remain won by 51.9% we wouldn't be talking right now about a second referendum.
I hate brexit just as much as the next person, but i dislike it more when politicians go against democracy for what they think is right
@@franticranter 3 years has past during which plenty has happened that makes the notion of returning to the people for guidance entirely reasonable. Those behind Brexit are not united in their vision, much of what they present differs from what they promised and campaigned on, parliament is deadlocked and has already ruled out a no deal, and the EU has previously ruled out a renegotiation. Revoking article 50, calling a referendum or general election look like the only options at this point. I find the idea that the majority of leave voters seriously envisaged their vote would lead to us crashing out with no deal absurd. Apol's for the essay :)
@@simonkelleher7329 3 years isn't enough time particularly seeming as the results of the election have not been carried through yet. And i do not believe there is anything new. From the beggining almost every official and the like were saying "brexit is a bad idea". All of the information about the effects of Brexit was out there, and everyone had all the information that was needed to make a decision.
Everything that is happening now is what the experts were saying would happen. There is nothing new that should actually sway any opinions.
And if we had all voted for remain 3 years ago we would not be calling for another referendum.
Something significant has to change for a second referendum to actually be Democratic, something that was unforeseeable
@@franticranter so you're telling me that 'no deal' and all that entails was a serious proposition being put to the people in 2016?
Bull sh-t
Заха
It is shameless of this media group what they print on new India.
Publicly humiliating a developing country, what cheap language.
You guys should apologize publicily.
how it works diplomatically is much worse..
Wait for it. .. The Guardian and Netflix are both funded by the EEUSSR... any volunteers willing to say this?
The EU isn't bad, it just wants to unite Europe and create a superstate. I don't want to be in a superstate, so I don't want to be in the EU. Its not rocket science, people just have different opinions.
The european republic is the shared destiny of all our european peoples.
To deny that is to deny the prosperity and security of your children and your childrens children.
Who ever produced this needs to take off the rose tinted glasses and stop viewing the world from the myopia of the bottom of a bottle of alcohol. In any event I can choose whether to pay for Netflix but the EU is like hotel California.
You can vote out any time you like
But you can never leave
You mean it's like a great song yeah. Cool
Paid by the EU. Our money. BS
Is Netflix worth it?!
Oh yeah it’s worth 39 billions
You should probably list your sources if you want to seem credible at all.