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Why I sold the 2024 Tundra and do I regret buying the Gladiator Mojave?
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- As many of you that have been around the channel know, i have gone through many vehs. many of you have asked why I didn't keep the 24 Tundra.
In this video i answer that question for you. I feel with the growth of the channel i owe it to you, my subscribers to be as transparent as possible.
I also discuss my thoughts on owning the Gladiator Mojave and if it was a good choice. is Another purchase coming? Will the Mojave stick around?
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00:00 INTRO
02:00 Why I sold the Tundra
14:04 Jeep regrets?
The Gladiator is a jack of all trades, master of none...which is better than a master of one.
I agree it does everything pretty darn well. Very versatile truck
It’s a master of going Off-Road…no midsize truck can go where that Gladiator can. Also no other midsize truck can be cheaply and easily modified to run big tires than a Gladiator. Try putting 38 inch tires on a Tacoma…
Yeah. Besides the angles on stuff, unlesss you lift it high, it’s ok. I would have got a wrangler rubi but the jt was already lifted with 37s for 10k cheaper.
My used 2021 Mojave came with 35in Toyo MTs on stock wheels and it worked but it rubbed on full turn which really bugged me and it felt loose when turning at speed so I would have to slow down on those down hill curvy mountain roads and the rear would slip some in wet or icy conditions. When I switched to Method 703s with -12 offset it made a huge difference in handling. With a 9in wide wheel the tires had more surface contact compared to the stock 7.5 wide wheels. I no longer had to slow down on turns with speed, it felt really grounded and no more slipping in wet conditions. I went with -12 offset because I would eventually go to 37in Toyo RT Trails and wanted a bit more poke to help keep clear of obstacles and a wider wheel base cant hurt with a 3in lifted Jeep. I highly recommend Method wheels with 0 offset for 35s. If you start to add weight like steel bumpers and a winch, your suspension may get really soft, like bobble heading a lot or hitting your bump stops when going over speed bumps and some swaying when turning but my suspension had 60k miles on it which is passed the rebuild recommendation, so that may be a factor. I also added a smartcap and roofrack and had about 2 in of sag. So I would add whatever your going to add before you decide on a lift. For now, I would get the correct wheels for 35s vs stock wheels and whatever 35 in tire you decide on and youll love it. I like Toyos because of their ruggedness on the rough rocky trails I do. For aux lights, I went with AuxBeam , a.co/d/iUNKsJb - makes adding lights super easy, theres also an RGB version so can set the led color and is a fraction of the cost to put in the oem Aux switch. For Rocksliders, White Knuckle - white-knuckleoffroad.com/product/jeep-gladiator-jt-2020-newer-rock-sliders/, I like these cause they attach to the frame not the body like the Rubi rails and you can keep the Rubi rails if you want or get the version without Rubi Rails. Looking forward to seeing your build!
@@coloradocantu a lot of info there! My jeep actually has the oem aux switches already. I won't be adding much weight tbh. Maybe a front stubby bumper. That sagged my brothers front end only a 1/4 inch. I may just do a 1 or 2 inch lift and wheels and tires.
Just passed 55,000 miles on my 2021 Gladiator Mojave which I bought new in 2021. It has been a Great truck. No squeaks or rattles even now at 3 years old. Smoothest riding truck I have ever owned. Original 33" Falken A/Ts on it too! My daily driver.
I'm in my 60's and have owned many makes and models of trucks. After 3 years of ownership with my Mojave, it ranks right at the top with a couple of my F250's as far as reliability, confidence and capability. But my Mojave is a bit more fun to drive with its outstanding suspension.
I will soon put 35's on the stock wheels and roll it w/o a lift. I have no plans to Overland it.
Jeep knocked it out of the park with the Gladiator - Mojave Edition. The suspension is amazing.
Enjoy it. Subscribed.
Good info in your video. Thank You.
Be well.
Hey ty for the comment and subscribing! . I agree the Mojave is the best Gladiator in the lineup. The on-road manners are great . The falken wildpeak are amazing tires and you are not the first person i have heard get 50k out of them.
We have a 2022 Mojave, AEV makes a 2 inch lift that keeps all of the OEM geometry of the suspension at factory specs. It allows you to run 35s on factory wheels and 37s on AEV wheels. We have been running the AEV 2 inch lift with 2 inch wheel spacers with factory wheels and tires for 22 months and 22,000 miles with zero problems. The ride is perfect at OEM geometry of the stock suspension. Your Majave looks great.
Thanks for the comment. Did you use the aev geo correction brackets?
Great choice, I had a 22 tacoma and trade in 23 Rubi. Driving this thing feels different and very comfortable especially when taking doors off or the roof it just nice.
All nice vehs. Thanks for the comment!
Last year I bought a new 2023 Toyota Tacoma TRD off-road, liked a lot of the features of that truck, but it was NOT comfortable for me, I came from a 2012 Jeep JKU Rubicon, the Jeep had more interior room, better stereo, better seating angle. sold the tacoma after 1500 miles.. I was glad I still had my Jeep... Now I sold that JKU and bought a 23 Jeep Gladiator Overland... I love it..... I guess I really am a Jeep guy.
When you know, you know..
I did the same! I really wanted to love the Tacoma but just couldn’t. Love my 2024 Rubicon!
Love the Mojave Gladiator, they look great and are extremely versatile. Love that you can get a solid deal on them too by comparison to TRD Pro trim Toyotas. The new Tundra prices are hard to justify… nice video man.
Pricing is definitely hard to justify for sure. Thanks for commenting 🤙🏻
As you know I love the Gladiator and I believe it’s the best and most capable mid-size truck on the market. I’m a big fan of the Jeep “JL” line (Gladiator and Wrangler) they are just so fun to own and drive! Love your “JOJAVE” !!!
As you know, I know you know i know you love the Jeep Jl and Jt platform. Pavicon 💪🏻
@@OdysseyOffroad LOL
I feel ya, im running a Diesel rubicon gladiator and its incredible as a daily. I run 37s and still get 23mpg. I towed a 5klb trailer across the country easy with it. I dont need a half ton for towing and the glad kills them on the trails so its perfect for me.
@@benoliver2826 those diesels do get great mgs i heard. Glad you are enjoying it!
Im still driving my 07 5.7 Tundra since new and its still very solid. Your Jeep looks awesome.
Thanks, keep that Tundra as long as possible!
I agree with you. It’s whatever meets your needs and whatever makes you happy. You don’t have to apologize for your own decision. I appreciate your honesty on why you traded your Tundra away. These damn trucks are too expensive!😂 we are paying more for lesser quality. I’m going to drive my 21 V8 to the grave w me. Enjoy your life. 😊
Dude I regret getting rid of my 21 TRD Pro that truck was an absolute beast. If the gas mileage wasn't so damn bad LOL that was really the only downfall of that truck. 🤘🏻 Thanks for the comment man.
Dude I had the ranger lariat fx4 it was a super nice truck, but when I would take off it always had a weird shutter from the drive shaft, and dealer service tried resolving with shims it was a nightmare, traded that pos for a Gladiator Rubicon no regrets!! Love it
I have had a total of about 17 or 18 different vehicles in a total of 12 years. That itch is real
@@Vyeking haha i feel ya. 🤣
I highly recommend the Clayton Overland plus or the AEV Dualsport lifts. Im personally running the Clayton Overland Plus with the Falcon shocks with 37 nittos.
@@benoliver2826 yea i heard the aev lifts are good but. Im not sure they offer the bushings for the front shock to fit the mojave. The falcon shocks are really the only options I am aware of for longer shocks that bolt eight up.
There is a 2023 Mojave near me in Hydro Blue that I love. It's $59k MSRP but about $47k after the discounts. Only options it has are LED lights and auto trans which is all I would want. I'd love to buy it but I already have 6 cars and don't want to part with anything. I go to look at it sitting lonely by itself in the back of the dealer lot when I'm driving by the dealer on the weekends. Sounds crazy but I do : )
Dude, buy that thing!! Lol Hydro blue is a really nice color also!
You'll never see those types of discounts again. If you already have 6 cars, what's one more? Besides, spend your money before it is devalued into oblivion!
I’m picking up my Mojave Tuesday (Punk’n). Thanks for the video.
Great color congrats!!
@@OdysseyOffroad Thanks man. 18k off MSRP, hard to turn down.
@@chasintrail I agree!
Key words, reliable enough when fixed under warranty. Personally that’s a tough one. I wish you best of luck with your Gladiator! I do like them!
Really nice truck! Enjoy!
I really love it!
Oh yeah….Smashed the thumbs up button!
Always appreciate the support from Leapin Larry!
What part of Arizona do you live in, looks similar to my area (Bullhead City). Which Tundra had the squeaks and rattles (23 or 24/both? I was looking at a Tundra but decided to go with the Ford F150/the Tundras reputation for rattles was a big part of the reason I went with the ford. Do you notice and rattles or other noises in the Gladiator. I am looking at a two door Wrangler Rubicon with the Manuel transmission. Anyway enjoy your Gladiator.
Im in a town called Sahuarita. It's south of Tucson. The 23 and 24 had noises. Also the bed makes noises on rough roads. My 21, 19 and 2008 tundra were dead quiet. The Gladiator has been good. The only noises are the front tops a little bit but that's to be expected when they are all removable. . I'm very happy with this thing.
you dont miss the ventilated seats and spacious cabin? im looking at this and a sierra 1500 at4x... i found the ones im looking at for similar prices. prices are dropping like crazy where im at.
@@TryingYourLvck not gonna lie the space and ventilated seats were nice! I dont miss the payment though lol This gladiator does everything I need it to right now. One day I may get back into a full size truck but it'll never be that expensive again. I just cant justify 70k
@OdysseyOffroad yea that decrease in payment must be nice.
i read online you can buy after market ventilated seats for the gladiator. i forgot the brand name but everyone in the thread was praising them. so theres always that.
@@TryingYourLvck to me the more important thing to have would be the heated seats. On the long rides it's nice, my back tends to get stiff on long trips in any vehicle. Heated seats are a nice addition that's easy enough to add I may do something like that.
@OdysseyOffroad here in texas the seats are always heated 😂
@@TryingYourLvck haha here in Southern Az too . Lol
unfortunately my '22 Gladiator Rubi (3.6 pentastar) has been a disaster - front locker went out, aux battery died just on the year aniv. like it was programmed to fail :), 4wd sensor broke. Latest: very loud lifter pinging - sounds like an 80's Mercedes diesel - just embarrassing...
That stinks man. The aux battery is common. Lookup the bypass and delete it. The loud engine noise sounds like you have the cam and lifters failing. Rake it to dealer its replaced under warranty
Nice Gladiator Mojave.
I keep losing my mind over same decision. Nov 2022 I went from Tesla Model Y performance to 2022 Gladiator Mojave, Sting Gray. Loved it. Tried RAM 1500 and loved 5.7 HEMI V8, roomier, quieter. Traded Gladiator for 2022 RAM 1500 Laramie 6'4" bed. Nice truck, but then wanted 2024 RAM 1500 LIMITED Night Edition Black after only two months with 2022 Laramie, sept last year traded for limited 1500 RAM LIMITED night edition. 5.7 HEMI V8 eTorque, Air Suspension, 5'7" bed, 360 degree cameras, RAM boxes etc.., digital dash, heads up display. Love it, but put lots of money down on trade and payments are high. Octane 89 gas not always fun filling up. Love the room in 1500 RAM's. But I cannot get Gladiator out of my mind. Looking at 2024 Mojaves now, sarge green. Too much trade loss from 2024 RAM Limited. I miss Mojave. Is smaller, nosier. Just something about the looks and suspension handling on American roads is cooler.
I can totally relate. And yeah the Rams lose their value pretty fast.
@@OdysseyOffroad Indeed. Learned hard way. 83K 2024 RAM Limited 1500 now worth 62K. I'm upside down on Mojave trade numbers. At least with dealers. Blue book pricing on street probably not much better. I'm lucky RAM fits in my home garage. 4 foot extension up front. Congrats on your channel here, and area you live to have fun.
@@jasonrussell1523 i appreciate ya watching and commenting. Don't beet ya self up to bad about the Ram at least you got a nice truck. Enjoy!
I swapped my JTR for a JTM a few weeks ago...
Dude.. the Mojave is insane and needs racing harnesses, i cant handle its true top speed off road abilities with out a harness... They shoulda came with em..🤣🤣
It is not anstep down from a Rubicon if you want to go faster on trails.. use common sense, Fast depends on the trail..im talking beyond Rubicons capabilities faster... Youll destroy a Rubicon trying to keep up with a Mojave, its a darn stock trophy truck.. i also need 10 ply tires that can handle Mauling Over Obstacles.. 🤘😎 im thinking Method Bead Grips and a nice set o Mickey Thompson..
You sound like you are really enjoying the Mojave! thats awesome. thanks for the comment!
@@OdysseyOffroad when me and my buddy was testing this thing out I kept getting faster and faster on some serious trails, that I couldn't get over 20 mph in the Rubicon, we ended up hitting 35 and 50 plus going airborne.. it sounds extreme, because the truck is.. my dad also taught me growing up that if the vehicle didn't scare you, then you should be really scared..
This truck doesn't scare me because it handles so well on rough stuff so I have to be extra careful in learning how this thing behaves and what it's actual limitations are at speed...
Congrats, very nice truck
Ty!
21 Mojave, overall pleased but some issues which speaks to Stellantis build quality. Faulty fox shocks front, leaking power steering fluid, cylinder misfire due to spark plug, etc
The faulty spark plug thing I've heard before, not sure what the reason is for that. I wonder if they just had a bad batch of spark plugs or something. Hopefully you'll have no major issues moving forward.
Watch for creaking Fox shocks, was covered under warranty but took 6 months to get them. Fox shocks require maintenance which most people don't know.
@@peterc8979 that is correct. They're 100% rebuildable. Most people know that. This is my second Mojave I had a 21 also. On both of them the rear shocks on a small bumps make a little bit of a popping sound. At some point I'll probably replace them with falcons or higher end fox adjustable shocks.
You made a great choice. GM has always failed me. I’ll never buy another. These 3.6 pentastar engines are truly reliable workhorses. The most reliable engine Chrysler makes. Awesome truck!
Thank you! Time will tell for sure.
I hope they fixed the back glass leaking on the new ones
Surprisingly enough or maybe not surprising there's a lot of vehicles that have issues with leaky back windows. Dodge Rams Chevy Silverados even Fords and I think it's just all due to the fact that all these new rear windows are encased in a plastic frame and they don't use metal window frames anymore and the plastic frames tend to develop cracks and start leaking. It's an easy enough fix though even out of warranty some black urethane and you're all set. i had a 2020 trailboss silverado and rear window leaked with 2k miles on it.
I didn’t ever have that issue with my 2021 gladiator and at 57,000miles without any issues. Been the best mid size truck especially after owning 5 tacomas, I’m not looking back.
@@daredevil9745 I have a 2021 Jeep Mojave mine has been leaking for a year now and I need to get it fixed before it goes out of warranty but I’m afraid of them scratching my painted top and that hole mess
I think if I had chosen a Gladiator, I would have gone with the Rubicon. I've had a Silverado for four years, no issues. I guess I got lucky. The problems you mentioned are real, though. I'm very fortunate.
Modern day issues i suppose. Seems like all these new vehicles are overpriced and under built.
Glad I’m not only one who constantly thinks I need a different vehicle! 😂
@@GK-gr2mx 🤣🤣 👊🏻
After 24:00 of the 32:00 video, the answer to the question in the video. “No, I don’t regret buying it.” Why that came after a discussion about how long it takes to wash a vehicle is anyone’s guess.
The other videos on this channel do represent good content
Whatever dude. Some of us like a little further explanation of why decisions are made. Some people are in similar situations and are looking for other peoples perspective. Also trying to articulate why he made a major financial decision in a video is not easy. I actually think he did a good job. Maybe you got TikTok brain and can’t handle an adult conversation???
Hey man I appreciate your input. However I'm not going to make a 30 second video and say no I don't regret it end of the video.
Also if you read the title of the video it's a two-part video. Do I regret buying the Mojave and why I sold the 24 Tundra. I do appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment but comments like this show you didn't pay much attention to be honest. The video is chaptered so you could have skipped ahead to the Mojave part if you paid attention to that and did not need to listen to the first half of the video. If you didnt realize it was chaptered I also mentioned at 1:30 second in I was talking about why I sold the Tundra first. I also mention not regretting the purchase of the Mojave pretty early into the Jeep chapter. The 24 min mark you mention was the second time I said it, I mentioned at 15:12 . 🤙🏻
I didn't realize I had a twin. I feel the same way about my trucks as you do. I worry about getting door dings, getting it wet in the rain, etc. Since 2015 I have had 3 Colorados, 2 Silverados, 1 Wrangler and 2 Gladiators. My current Gladiator is a '21 Sport S. I've been kicking around getting a Mojave because it is supposed to be the smoothest riding Gladiator. Have you ever driven a Sport S or Rubicon Gladiator to compare how they are driving/comfort wise compared to your new Mojave? My biggest concern is I have everything I want on my current Gladiator, all the accessories and mods that I like. So I'm not sure if it is worth trading in for a Mojave just because it might be a tad smoother ride and then have to buy all the mods I like all over again. I haven't had a chance yet to test drive a Mojave, waiting for the weather to get better, but hope to soon. Thanks.
Thanks for the comment. I would say unless you're itching to get the rear locker you'd probably be better off just getting a good high-end set of Fox shocks or falcon reservoir shocks on your sport S. There's obviously other things that are different but the ride is mostly dictated by the shocks and the springs which are easily upgradeable on yours.
I just traded my F150 in for a Gladiator Mojave, I pick it up on Saturday. My heart was set on the Rubicon but after test driving both it was night and day. The Mojave hands down is a way better ride. I was literally vibrating in the Rubicon seat. My wife was complaining as well. I wanted the Rubicon so bad that I took them both out again for a test drive and couldn't get past how much better the Mojave was. If you don't plan on hardcore rock crawling then you'll never miss the front locker and disconnect. You can add sway bar disconnects if you really want them and for most people you won't need the front locker.
@@TheBeagleBrigade Came here to say the same thing. I bought the Mojave and really enjoy it. When I test drove all the trims, it was the Rubicon that was most uncomfortable ride to me.
Let us know when you trade this in for the next one👍🏻
I sure will!
Agreed 🎉
I think you'll keep it up to 1 year and then trade it off. Probably for a 4th Gen Taco or a ZR2 (or AT4X). I feel like you are very unhappy with your life and get new vehicles for some excitement. Lol totally just guessing. 😂
Lol to the contrary. My life is amazing. Beautiful wife 3 awesome kids and a garage full of toys and amazing friends. 💪🏻🤙🏻
That's awesome. Glad to hear! I have a 23 Rubicon JT. Also took advantage of the rebates and discounts. Ended up getting about 21% off MSRP. I love it. 😊
@@toddmayta7615 cant beat a deal like that for such a capable truck. Enjoy my friend 🤘🏻
Be smarter w ur money. One day ur going to wake up and wish u put all that lost money ur putting into vehicles in a retirement account. Just a little advice from an older fella.
Ty sir, always appreciate wise advice.
You’re assuming he’s terrible with his money like he’s buying vehicles but is mired in debt can barely pay his mortgage maybe living in his old mother’s basement?
Seems like the vehicles are his enjoyment and for what he’s paid I think he’ll be ok in retirement!! Nevertheless it’s all about quality of life maybe regret doing something but never regret not doing it just saying
@@series9193 Well, u can take it anyway u want, it wasn’t meant for u. Read my comment again and let me know where I mention his debt or his mortgage. I don’t.
@@wutruriding1355 you made a comment on the internet it is for everyone and dummy you didn’t have to mention his mortgage specifically you implied carelessness with finances the implication encompasses anything involving money !! If you’re going to be a stupid butthurt bitch maybe you should keep your thoughts to yourself or better yet think before you comment
@@series9193From a fellow Jeep ✌️ bro to another…your comment is a tad rough and uncalled for. The guy was trying to give solid advice…
Yeah man whatever fits your needs is most important I feel! Some people overpay for features or trucks they really never use. I love my 22 JT Moj, yeah I could of gone zr2 but for every reason you gave I went jeep 💪🏽💪🏽
@@desertmusic7O2 very accurate comment. Thanks for sharing and Enjoy your Mojave!🤘🏻