1. Nobody buys a jeep for gas mileage 2. Solid axles is WHY we buy Jeeps because the articulation is better than IFS. Which is why they are better than all other off road vehicles like Tacomas, Colorados etc 3. Removable panels is the Jeep brand 4. Literally EVERY carmaker tiers their models like this 5. I agree they should have offered a new motor like they did in the Wrangler 6. They are priced high BUT they are purpose built vehicles like no other and can go anywhere 7. The Gladiator does not compare to the Ranger or Colorado because those others cant do what a Jeep can. Jeeps are not a vehicle that can be compared across classes because no other vehicle is as capable Lastly, any of the things you mentioned would mean that person never wanted a Jeep to begin with. Jeep people dont care about any of those things when buying one other than the price but in the end we know it would cost the same or more to make another vehicle as capable.
I agree. True Jeeper’s don’t buy it for gas mileage or aerodynamics, it’s all about the off-road adventure and freedom it gives you. Yes the prices are ridiculous considering I paid $36k for my new wrangler back in 2017. I didn’t get the Rubicon because I wanted to build it like I wanted but now I wish I had bought the Rubicon. So, $36k to now $50-55k for a sport. That’s a considerable jump. I want a Gladiator Rubicon but I’m disappointed they don’t give more engine options. That’s my biggest negative along with the pricing. It is what it is though.
If you bought a new Jeep before Covid, drive it until the wheels fall off cause you’ll never pay those prices again. 50k for a truck with manual crank windows is ridiculous.
I got a 23 Willys right after Christmas. All options and 6 year warranty for $43k. I am damn happy with that! The backseat space is great for my baby's car seat. Already taken it on a few trails and had the doors and roof off multiple times. It's a great truck!
Purchase a 2023 new leftover Willys this March 2024 MSRP was $58,300 paid $40k at 40k The vehicle is worth its price at 58K I would not have purchased it. It’s not worth that kind of money.
Good rant I agree which is why I never pulled the trigger On this vehicle. No matter if it has 15-20k discounts. That’s just 1-2 year of depreciation from sitting On the lot. Then it drops another 10-15k once’s you drive off with it. 💸
From what I heard, they are bringing in the hurricane engine, since the recent 3 liter diesel actually had some pretty bad flaws, might be worth waiting for
I live in Houston Texas and I'm telling you that most Jeeps here are tricked out Mall Crawlers. Over 95 percent of Jeeps in Houston will never leave the pavement. These machines were designed for off- road, instead purchased as a status symbol. The ironies of life...
I guess you don’t understand what a Jeep is about if you believe they’re only built for offroad. Since its introduction to the military the purpose of the vehicle was to get you in and out of any terrain. So today many of your mall crawlers want a vehicle for the “just in case” roads are snowy rocky uneven flooded I know with the jeep I’m getting home and people like that kind of insurance in their back pocket. And of course there are overlanders who don’t plan to bang up their expensive ass Jeep on rocks for fun but want to camp etc. This is a utilitarian vehicle and now as a pickup it’s a vehicle every one should own I mean if they can afford it because Stellantis is trying to price us out !!
Why does it matter what people do with their own money? If they dont want to take it off road, well so be it. I see exotic cars on the road doing 100kmh, should they not be allowed to buy them if they dont drive them hard like theyre meant to be? And no, I dont own a Jeep, I did have an old TJ Rubicon that I took camping in the forest, not offroading or rock crawling.
Gladiators are the best off road pickup, and I like that the price is high because I don’t want other people to own one. I wanna have mine and look down on you for having some cheap Japanese truck.
Would be so amazing! But I'd love it if thry put a front locker in the Mojave. I love that jeep but I have to have the front locker in the swamps. I want a Mojave with a front locker bad!!
@@robertopics that was for the left over 23s. And those are definitely the smart buy if you can still find them. None left down here in south GA anymore.
People that complain about the gas mileage are also the same people that don't get bigger tires. I've seen multiple reports now of the new Tacoma on 35s getting the same exact if not worse gas mileage than I do on my gladiator.
I bought a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Max Tow loaded with LED light package. Paid $42,000 back then. I have since built it up with 37s, falcon terra flex suspension, and front locker with LSD in the rear. It’s been a fantastic off road experience. The Max Tow has a lot of bonuses for a sport model.
Love it! And love that you added the front locker! It's the one that matters most. Have a video about that coming out soon. Sounds like a beautiful truck!
Honestly if they price it right and not make their customer pay extra for everything and stand behind their products, Jeep would be unstoppable… I want to buy one but cannot justify the price…
Getting 15 grand off of these Gladiators should not be that hard to do. Never pay attention to a window sticker on a Ram or Jeep. Always trying to negotiate and if that dealer won't find another dealer that will
Everything you laid out is why I went from my 2021 Rubicon to a 2023 ecodiesel Rubicon when I did. Part of my build was full skids. It doesn’t take much for something like a rock or stump to cause 10k+ worth of damage off road. Again 95% of folks will probably never use it as a Jeep, but it’s the only Solid axle midsize pickup you can get in the US.
Traded my Tacoma got a mojave super nice ride but after a trip to the beach i was done so narrow inside the driver compartment. Yes it wondered all over the road. 2wks later I'm back in a 23 TRD come on with V8 and a floor board design.
I’ve owned 14 jeeps and pretty much my entire adult life never been without a Jeep I love them, recently I’ve owned a jeep 392 and I cheated I had a bronco raptor, I recently purchased the gladiator because of the huge sales they’ve been having and after the purchase I immediately modified it lift kit tires etc. etc. the usual builds and it comes to life when you do that, The gladiator has completely grown on me and I love it, it tows and handles much better than the standard wrangler/Rubicon, I do tow a modified off-road teardrop trailer and it works so well, and it’s a nice change having a Jeep that has a pick up truck bed, I recommend the gladiator and if you can find a 2023 model the sales are incredible and we are still fortunate in the United States that we can get a 4 x 4 that’s built on a solid frame that we can modify with no limits. In regards to mpg nothing I’ve ever owned has gotten incredible fuel economy, yes I wish it got better gas mileage but it’s still similar to everything else on the market. Jeep has done a great job with the gladiator!!!
Glad you love the gladiator too! It's the funnest and most capable truck I've ever owned. And it daily drives great too. I've owned 4 wranglers over the years and loved them. But the gladiator offers that with a truck bed! Love it.
The biggest selling point for me on these is I can get a manual transmission built by Toyota (Aisin). Only other new manual transmission you can get is in the Tacoma in this segment. I found a sport with hardtop in my area for $38k on a 24' seems like a good deal. Thanks for the vid.
I've owned a JLU and currently a Gladiator. The only complaint I have is I have had corrosion issues on both of my Jeeps. My Gladiator is about to go into the shop again for the second time because now it's bubbling on the rear door. Bed rail last time and my JLU had corrosion on the inside of the tailgate in 2019.
I bought the Gladiator because I wanted a bed and the ability to take the doors and roof off, I wanted the solid front axle and lockers. I use mine for overlanding/camping and hitting the trails. Most people who buy the other trucks, dont really do much besides mall crawl in them. They buy the 4x4 for the appearance package and traction control.
The gladiator sure is a fun vehicle off road and love the freedom panels off. Have not taken doors off yet and probably won't. But such a fun capable truck
I agree with you on the pick and chose options. I believe all Wranglers should come standard from the factory with a trailer hitch/aux switches package. Some people may not tow, but they are certainly going to add a light or two.
Absolutely!!! Could not agree more!! The price blows my mind (even more so than the price of the new Tacoma)! I’ve never been inside a gladiator, but really want to test drive one, because it’s an appealing vehicle, for all the pros that you’ve mentioned before! I like my Ram quad cab, but after doing some research, the gladiator has more rear seat leg room and space than my Ram 1500! But $60k-$70k is just stupid!
Last year I wanted to buy a Gladiator to replace my '16 Ram 1500 Quadcab 4wd Ecodiesel. My dealer was reluctant to take an order for an Ecodiesel JT. So I bought the lowest priced JLU on the lot, and kept my Ram 1500. The prices are a killer of all vehicle sales. My wife has an '18 Ram 2500 Crewcab 4wd 6.7 Cummins, that we bought for $48k. Today a similar vehicle is $67k on the dealer lot. The dealers load up the options. But a 4wd vehicle should never have carpet!!!! It might be okay to have carpeted floor mats.
Good job on your videos! I went from a 3rd gen Tacoma for 5 years, to a 23 Silverado 1500 LTZ Duramax and sold it because of transmission issues at 40k miles. I just picked up a 23 Gladiator Rubicon manual. Really neat truck, I have 1500 miles on it so far. Its been 8 days lol. I have become used to the wind noise but it is loud. I'm in your neck of the woods outside of Savannah, this wind over the last few days has been blowing this jeep around on the highway so I'm still trying to get used to the amount of corrections I have to make to keep it straight. Also since 700 miles I've been getting a "Service Transmission" warning but I'm pretty sure its not an actual issue and is some kind of software issue. One other thing, I have noticed an issue where it momentarily cuts power like it misfires in 3rd and 4th sometimes. I test drove a 24 Tacoma manual yesterday and the rev hang is insane, it completely killed the enjoyment of that vehicle. Overall since I paid like 42k for a pretty loaded Rubicon with a color matched hard top I am happy with it and think nothing touches that. You are right, price is 100% the biggest issue with them.
I'd take it in and let warranty fix whatever issue it's having. But you are gonna love it! High winds do blow it around a bit. Drove from Jacksonville to home in the winds yesterday. Adventure..lol. Yep not impressed with the new tacoma I4 either.
Got the '23 Gladiator Rubicon with a deep discount I battled for and I love it. I wouldn't get the '24 one because at least of price, and like you mentioned in other videos the windshield antenna - which is totally lame.
4 months later you were right heavily discounted now. I’m in Tulsa and sport/sport s 33k-43k. I like them because of the V6. The turbos are loud. I like the ability to take the top off. I plan to move to Iowa where it snows. I won’t off-road it. I’m in the market for sport s or Willy’s not a Rubicon etc.
2 great trucks. The sport with max tow package will hold it's value much better than without max tow. The willys is amazing with the offroad plus button and rear locker now.
I have a 2020 Rubicon with 65K miles on it. No real problems and heavily modified. You are right, pricing with Stellantis is a joke. They need to reduce MSRPs to stay competitive. If Teslas are reducing prices to move product, they need to do the same. Just to put in perspective. I paid 56K out the door for a fully loaded Rubicon 4 years ago.
I own a 22 Gladiator Rubicon. Biggest problem I see is PRICE!!!! How can Jeep justify $65-68K for a loaded Rubicon or Mojave when the MSRP for a Ranger Raptor is ONLY $55K. Wind noise, steering precession (or lack there of), and MPG are also issues. Despite all of this I LOVE my Gladiator.
@SteveH98264 true. But I believe in 2 months when all 23s are sold off the value of used will skyrocket for 6 months until hopefully jeep discounts thr 24s again that aren't selling. So it's all about catching the windows of opportunity I think.
I have a Mojave and I love it. I would much rather have a simple port injected V6 that is more reliable than a direct injection turbo. And they are the only vehicle with solid axles that can handle off road terrain. Independent suspension breaks easy and offers no articulation.
@itsallminor6133 jeep wrangler 4xe is the number one selling hybrid suv last 3 years and non hybrid is just a smidgen behind the 4xe. And it's been around and selling well for 80 years. Something tells me jeep is doing just fine
You nailed it: price is the #1 problem with the Gladiator. I want a midsize truck to tow a small camper, haul camping gear, and do light off-roading. I will shop a Sport S with the Max Tow Package, but at 55K, it is $10K more expensive than other nicely optioned midsize 4WD/AWD trucks. I am buying at the end of 2024, so if the Gladiator is competitive with other midsize trucks in price, I will consider it. Also hoping the Gladiator Sport S with the Max Tow Pkg will also come with 1,500 lbs +/- of payload like the GM twins, the Ranger, and the Ridgeline. Disappointed in the Tacoma and Frontier in terms of payload despite being nice trucks.
My 2024 Willys 43k with all the 24 upgrades in safety, rear locker, infotainment update, spray in bedliner, clear coat paint protection, aux switches, My 2021 Willys 43k 8 inch infotainment, none of the above mentioned upgrades. The prices are high, but you have to know where to look. Most dealers offer free delivery up to 250 miles. I got my 2024 from 500 miles from my home. It saved me thousands. You have to know how to shop! BUt oddly enough jeep gave 3 free oil changes and tire rotations in 21 but only 2 in 24
@tanishazoa138 yep the deals are out there on jeep if you know how to get them. Congratulations on your new willys. And atleast jeep still gives free oil and tires in the beginning. Toyota charges 700 for 2 oil and 4 tire rotations on the window sticker
Jason, I love your videos and format. You are one of only a few RUclipsrs who actually talk about exactly everything that matters to me. Keep up the good work. PS I love your other videos about how the Gladiator is the best midsized truck on the market.
I literally just bought a Gladiator Rubicon today it's 2023 with 20 miles on it. Window sticker 65k and got it for 45k I'm pretty dammed happy with that. I've had many Jeeps over the last 40 years including a Camanchy which was a car with a truck bed. I know I'll love this thing and after I put some of the money I saved into the truck I will really love it. Thanks for the Vid.
But if you shop around you can find more reasonable deals. I just bought a 2024 Sport S, with a few nice packages, the MSRP was $52,025! That included the granite crystal met. paint $595, cust. prefer pack 24S $3,500, power windows and locks, color matching fenders, gorilla glass, deep tint glass and power heated mirrors. Then convenience group at $2,095, automatic temp control, heated seats and wheel, passive entry and lock, remote start and universal garage door opener. Then active safety group, at $1,395, with LED tail lamps, park sense and cross path detection, automatic high beam-headlight control. Then Automatic trans $ 2,500, plus Freedom Hardtop $1,595, finally sprayed bed liner $555! But at my dealership, Thunder Jeep, I got a $15,000!! Discount!!!!
The cons are ridiculous. My 1st jeep was a 77cjwith the 304 3 speed. Wind noise? Hearing yourself think was impossible. AC was taking the top off. The ride hurt, it was all over the road like horse manure after a parade. It's a jeep, or at least it was.
The ONE thing the Gladiator SHOULD do that the Wrangler can’t do well is tow. That’s the only reason I’m even considering the Gladiator. I appreciate this video, but for folks looking at this truck instead of the Wrangler is so we can tow something. Most reviews of the Gladiator’s towing pales in comparison to other trucks in this price range. The Gladiator should have a 392 and priced at $55k.
It would be great if it could tow 7000 pounds safely up and down hills. I don’t think it even has a built-in trailer brake controller. Again, for a truck in this price range, the competition is better. If not towing, the Wrangler is hard to beat.
That’s unfortunate because I was able to build a hard top on their site for 42k. Im sure it’s next to impossible to find one but it’s worth mentioning. On a separate note, the break over angle on the gladiator isn’t fantastic either
I have the Mojave and the wondering did go away almost completely when it reached 5K miles. My guess is that the new tire tread amplified the wondering and I have gotten acclimated to it. I would not let this behavior influence the purchasing decision.
I love the way a solid front axle vehicle wanders a bit. Makes driving fun and you feel part of the experience. In a world where people want cars to drive themselves and vehicles thst can parallel park for you and back your trailer up for you, I am the complete opposite. I love the input from the road, I love backing up trailers with my own skill. The gladiator is the most fun truck ever made as well as the most capable off road truck ever made. I would not change a thing except the price and sure wish jeep would put a damn front locker in the mojave!
Absolutely agree. They should change their trims to equate different suspension and axle setups. Rubi as it is, Sport with IFS, Sahara with all indi. So ppl could choose whichever route they’d want to go; rock crawling, overlanding, or speed/handling/comfort etc. No doubt the prices on all vehicles have inflated but American vehicles, especially the jeep wrangler platform offers purpose built and rightly equipped for off-road, plus the most modular rig. Wrangler/Gladiator is a very good platform for overland utilitarian metal top SUV, like the LC70 and old Defender. I don’t know what the Stellantis’s marketing and pricing strategy is but as an off-road enthusiast, I fear their lack of sales may end one of the last few mass built purpose built combustion motor vehicles at attainable prices.
You’d have to be nuts to buy a new anything in 2024. Owner #1 will get reamed by the depreciation. If buying an upper trim you’re gonna lose $10K off the lot and $10K a year for the first few years, guaranteed. I just got a like-new ‘21 JT Ruby with $25K in factory options for $39,5. MSRP was $63K back then… at todays rate it would be a $76K truck new, and you can’t even spec a new one out that well from the factory anymore on the Jeep website!
Know your a JT / Jeep fan as I am & I agree with you on some things but not everything , first it's a box but so is the JL & they sell fine . Second I'm told the reason the 2.0 turbo isn't in the Gladiator is because it's to light & can't get the trail rated badging due to this . I know you gotta know this already but the Rubicon is built to go offroad & hit some rock trails hence the Rubicon name whereas the Mojave is built to go fast in the sand where the locker isn't needed as much in this situation. Let's be honest on fuel economy & some other issues , us Jeepers aren't as concerned with the fuel economy especially since most of us are gonna lift & install way bigger tires on. As far as wondering on the road I just haven't experienced it to the point I wanna buy something else & it can be made better . The price is a big issue but I honestly don't see more being offered for the save or less money from Toyota and others , I actually thought of picking up a TRD instead of the JT but once I looked into them I realized there just as much when comparing equal to equal. As far as road noise from having removable roof/panels i haven't experienced noise due to these options & ive owned alot of Jeeps over the years Appreciate the videos & your insights these are just my thoughts as well.
I agree with everything you said. And this was a very hard video to make as there are so few disappointments with the gladiator. It's outstanding. But I had to make it as I made one on every mid size truck to help people make the best decision for them. So I tried to mention things thst are brought up often. But agree 100 with you it's not very loud, drives great and is such a capable vehicle.
One of the local dealers to me has 32 glads and 58 wranglers in stock. ‘24 glads are marked down 6-8k. And wranglers are 4-8k depending on trim level. All the glads except for the sport s are 8k off. And the dealer is talked to said they have more glads incoming. I live in ohio about an hr from toledo too. Dealers around here are piling up with new jeep inventory and they cant move it
The dealers really killed the Gladiators up here in the northeast. While Jeep was offering discounts last year the dealers were increasing their MSRP then using the "jeep discount" to bring the prices back down to the original MSRP. I would blame them first for killing the sales of these. 2nd point some of the oem tire packages until you get up to the Mojave and Rubicon models do nothing for the looks of these. At least from the factory. 3rd as far as the solid axle complaints we've become a nation of pansies. Just my 3c.
Having driven ,and still do ,willys and cjs most of my life my gladiator drives and handles like a dream , people just like to whine , my diesel gladiator gets great mileage also .it handles all my camping and overlanding stuff perfectly. I didn’t buy it to haul around a huge camper which requires full size pickup , of course no full size pickup will go where i go .
Anyone buying crap like this and plan to actually use it for what its designed to do needs their head examined. 99% of people will not use this for what it was intended and real off roaders all drive older beat up stuff because they're constantly bending stuff.
I special orderd the Gladiator Rubicon in 2021. I've driven from Maryland to New York using the Jersey Turn Pike and averaged 17-21 mpgs. From Maryland to Allentown PA and averaged 16-8 to 17.2 Driving regular roads. My every day driving I get 16.6-17.1 if I drive normal. Every so often I enjoy getting on it as I installed Volant Air Intake and change my oil using Pennsoil Ultra Synthetic every 3-4000 miles and also rotate my tires the same time. We haul alot of stuff in the bed. I now have 34,000 and wouldn't seel or trade it. I've owned many different brands of vehicles and this is the best that enjoy. Great in the snow and exceptional on back roads. Yanni
Yeah! I'd like to special order the Gladiator Rubicon X but even our special discount I'm not pay the high Inerest Rates. When I odered my 2021 we got 3.49%for 72 month and mine cost $57,000 out he door!@@Jason-Samko
I do believe of the 3 super mid sizers (zr2, raptor, gladiator) the raptor would be the first to suffer from issues due to the electronics in the mud and water down here in the swamps. So much tech in the raptor ranger. Probably great out west in the sand and rock. But in the mud Id be worried about electrical gremlins.
I was hoping for a 2 door Gladiator with a half cab, and a short box.. something along the lines of the old Jeep Comanche. I don’t want or need 4 doors or a full sized truck. I use my 08 JKU like a pickup… it’s about the perfect size for my needs. Any bigger and it’s to cumbersome in the woods. I was hoping Jeep would release a 2 door gladiator with a short box… but it doesn’t seem promising so I will probably convert my JKU to a flatbed . If jeep is listening I’d love to see them release a 2 door gladiator, with short box, diesel engine, and manual transmission. I don’t know why they always pair the diesel with an automatic transmission. They would corner the market… as no one, not even Toyota makes a 2 door compact pickup anymore… and a small diesel truck would make so much sense.
As you have clearly indicated, there is no reason as to why certain items should come with the high dollar price tag. There isn’t a Jeep made that’s worth $70,000 plus dollars. I once owned a Gladiator Overland two years ago that was full loaded to a Rubicon accessories. Had to order it but I got what I needed. I paid $52,789. For this truck. Got rid of it due to oil problems dry starts that Chrysler could fix on all their V6 engines. Now that same Jeep is near $75,000 for a cheap Jeep. No more Chrysler products. Junk! And Chrysler don’t care.
In other words. The Jeep Gladiator is a truck that's not meant for everyone. And personally. I hope it stays that way. In a world of weak unibody turbo 4-cylinder trucks that's gonna cost you a few grand when those turbos fail. It's nice to see that the Gladiator is a real true mid-size truck.
While I love my Mojave it comes with a lot of negatives. But that's the price you pay for the positives. At the end of the day the Gladiator does things no other truck offers.
@@Jason-Samko I needed a midsize truck that fit my family of four comfortably. Well that can be done by all midsize trucks. But we love to go to the beach, I have always wanted a convertible, and I love trail riding. So.....the obvious choice was a Gladiator.
Word on the street is the Hurricane is a little too long for 2024 and older Wranglers and Gladiators. Saw somewhere what seemed to be wrangler rubicon prototype. It had slightly longer front end presumably to fit the new hurricane. 2024 Glad Rubicon and Mojave are $7000 to $10000 off MSRP here in Houston, TX. Puts most $51k-$55k and jumps to $59k on the X levels. Not terrible, but it's tough competition with ZR2 right there $49k-$52k. Ranger Raptor also tough competition if you can get near MSRP.
@@Jason-Samko The smart play would be simply pay off glad and do it through America's Most Wanted swap. I believe they're the ones who figured out it wasn't going in with current engine bay length.
the 4 cyl tacomas are averaging 12mpg or less -- its not substantial enough to brag about, over a gladiator. the 4cyl is also having a difficult time when its loaded down for overlanding, according to the tacoma forums.
I hear people say thst but have never seen it in person on any of the hundreds of jeeps I look at and of the 17 people I know personally with jl or it's not one has thst issue. If it does happen I'd just have jeep fix it under warranty. If it came back I'd have em fix it again. But I don't think it's that common of jeep would of fixed it along time ago.
The Mojave isn't supposed to be a rock crawler or mudbogger. It's a dessert runner. This it doesn't need front lockers or full skids. The Rubicon is the top trim and made for hardcore technical off-roading, which is usually slow crawling so extra frame reinforcement isn't needed. Jeep isn't missing the mark. They survey and see what people want. As far as prices, I just looked and a Ranger Raptor starts at $57k then add the "market adjustment" ford dealers all do. Also factor in the 25% inflation for 2018 when you could get a Sport for $35k. Tack on union demands for more money and guess what. We the consumer have to pay more money.
For me I hate the look needs 37s a slight lift etc minimum to look decent rear taillights even uglier 🤮. Dated power train with questionable reliability I know some say otherwise but i dont trust it Then MSRP haha GTFO. So u would need to add minimum 10k+ to get it up to par in looks department. Even with the massive discounts saw Rubicons for 47k to 50k then add on the 10k+ in mods just not worth it. If u could get a Rubicon for low $40k range, I would definitely be much more willing to jump in.
Jeep management is threatening to ruin the brand by price gouging. They need too drop the prices $10K to be competitive. I can get a Tacoma TRD or a Z71 for about$50K.
Jeep is definetly priced high! But seems like the buyers has put their foot down and forced them to run big sales at the end of the year to move them. hopefully jeep will do the same again.
Love my 2021 Gladiator Rubicon. I came from a 16 TRD Off road. The Jeep is a way nicer truck. The Toyota V6 was absolutely gutless off line with no low end torque. New model with the turbo 4 (No thanks) you can keep all the small turbo motors, The Jeep is purposed built for people who actually use theirs off road. the fact that you can run 33's stock on a Rubicon or Mojave and with a leveling kit 35's with clearance is another advantage.
It's a boxy truck BECAUSE it's a Jeep based off the ORIGINAL design... What more aerodynamics? Buy a Cherokee ‼️ Complaints regarding the back seat accessibility... I didn't buy my Gladiator to haul passengers AROUND every day. Just shut 😶up and get in‼️✅✅
I drove Wranglers from the time I was 16 until 5 years ago. I am 46 now. I LOVED the Wrangler, but even I can explain what the hell Jeep is thinking. No more Sahara in a 2 door. In order to get color matched fender flares and top I have to spring for a Rubicon. Why? I don't need the transfer case. I don't need sway bar disconnects. I don't need the 4:10 gears. We all asked for a V8 for YEARS. Could they give a 5.7 hemi? No. Of course not. They give us a 392 in a 4 door only with horrible gas mileage...and still only in a Rubicon. ANYWAY, I digress. This is about the Gladiator. It's just effin ugly. Yes, it looks great from the front, but that is the ugliest truck bed of any truck. I know it's subjective, but as a guy who loves Wrangler styling, I think it says something. Jeep missed the boat with the Gladiator. Removeable top and doors? GREAT! Better idea--- Make a half ton Jeep truck. Base it closer to the old Kaiser trucks, give it a 5.7 or a diesel. That brings me to the next gripe. It isn't very good at most TRUCK things. It can't haul much. It can't tow much. It has very little storage. When I finally left the Wrangler behind, I considered a Gladiator for about 3 seconds.... Final reason? Price. For what you are getting, it is absolutely ridiculous. I agree with the earlier comment who mentioned they expected much more from a 60-70k Vehicle. On the good side, I didn't completely leave the family. For nearly 3 years I have been VERY happily driving a Ram 1500 Limited with Ramboxes and the air suspension. Am I going to go trail running in that vehicle? No, of course not. It's a luxury pickup. For the same price I could have had a Gladiator with a third of the luxury, an ugly profile, and bad gas mileage... BUT I could have taken the top and doors off! Nah, If I want another Wrangler, I'll buy a Wrangler. Just my .02. Cheers!
1) nobody and i do mean nobody who buys a wrangler or gladiator is looking at the MPG ratings when buying, I admire JEEP for keeping with tradition of the body style over the years. 2) I do agree they should have released a new motor option for the gladiator, I would of liked to see a 392 option. Better yet bring back the 4.0 in-line 6. These vehicles do not need a fuel efficient option that would be sub-par on the trails. 3) I don't know what JEEP did on the 2024's but my 2024 Gladiator Rubicon Rubicon edition feels more confident around town and at 85MPH on the highway by leaps and bounds. I previously owned 2011 JKU Sport. Does it drive like an Escalade? No, but it is also 50k less. I would know my girlfriend just bought one. 4) Everyone that owns a JEEP does not care about road noise, we literally bought a vehicle we can remove the doors and roof. 5) Yeah the backseat is dismal but it is a mid-size pickup at the end of the day. 6) The Mojave and Rubicon are both purpose built vehicles, the Rubicon is meant to crawl slowly on technical trails where you need both front and rear lockers with the sway bar disconnect, the Mojave is meant to blast through the dunes hence the reinforced frame. Every manufacturer has trim levels. 7) The essentials are protected, when you add full length skid plates you add a lot of weight even if you go the aluminum route. As you mentioned these are already vehicles that need to be driven, so why would they make it harder? Plus skid plates change the entire drag coefficient of the truck. 8) I do believe Stellantis is smoking crack when pricing these trucks, I could have bought and Silverado 1500 ZR2 for 4k more than my truck granted it is a limited edition. However, that Silverado could never hold a light to the offroad prowess of JEEP and that is how they get away with it.
Everything you said I agree with 100%. But backseat wise, as someone that has tested every midsize truck. The gladiaor has a Ton of back seat space comparatively . And the gladiaor rear storage is unmatched, like by a long shot. Love the back seat space and storage of the gladiator.
The rear departure angle, WAY over priced and fiat engineering. Ive got a '05 Wrangler thats modified that WILL run circles around a gladiator and have NO WHERE near the price of a gladiator in it. Ive wheeled with a Rubicon gladiator and he couldnt keep up. 😂
You just complained about a jeep being a jeep. The frame issue options, point made. Want better gas mileage, take the top off and roll down the windows. It's a jeep. Let the Jeep be a jeep.
I said these are things "other people" complain about! I own and love my 23 gladiator rubicon. Best truck made for my lifestyle. But I make disappointment videos on all brands to help people find what's best for them
Exactly the Mojave is a competitor to the Ford Raptor. Not having a better engine in it is crazy. While nothing will dethrone the Ford Raptor Line for off road speed and performance I think more people would get a Mojave with a better power train.
My opinion the one of the most I proven and reliable motor and Trans combos available today. 14 million 3.6 motors on the road with a less than 1% failure rate. That's pretty amazing.
The prices are way too high, but if they had the 392 in them, they would be pushing 80 to 100 grand for them. Just like the Rubicons. I think the Rubicons are overrated.
Never pay msrp or anywhere near that for a jeep. You don't have to. Love my rubicon. No other truck will go when this takes me. Use my front locker 10 times a week every week
@Jason-Samko I'm not saying the Rubicon isn't a great choice, I just think they are very overpriced. I also think all jeeps should come with lockers. That way, we would have a better choice of what we want. I love the Willy's addition myself.
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1. Nobody buys a jeep for gas mileage
2. Solid axles is WHY we buy Jeeps because the articulation is better than IFS. Which is why they are better than all other off road vehicles like Tacomas, Colorados etc
3. Removable panels is the Jeep brand
4. Literally EVERY carmaker tiers their models like this
5. I agree they should have offered a new motor like they did in the Wrangler
6. They are priced high BUT they are purpose built vehicles like no other and can go anywhere
7. The Gladiator does not compare to the Ranger or Colorado because those others cant do what a Jeep can. Jeeps are not a vehicle that can be compared across classes because no other vehicle is as capable
Lastly, any of the things you mentioned would mean that person never wanted a Jeep to begin with. Jeep people dont care about any of those things when buying one other than the price but in the end we know it would cost the same or more to make another vehicle as capable.
I agree with that. All except the msrp price tag. Thank God they offer great deals
Well stated! I am in my 2nd gladiator rubicon (2021 and 2022) and absolutely love it - for the reasons you listed here
I agree. True Jeeper’s don’t buy it for gas mileage or aerodynamics, it’s all about the off-road adventure and freedom it gives you. Yes the prices are ridiculous considering I paid $36k for my new wrangler back in 2017. I didn’t get the Rubicon because I wanted to build it like I wanted but now I wish I had bought the Rubicon. So, $36k to now $50-55k for a sport. That’s a considerable jump. I want a Gladiator Rubicon but I’m disappointed they don’t give more engine options. That’s my biggest negative along with the pricing. It is what it is though.
@jacobyoung7092 sure would be nice if they shocked us all and dropped the new hurricane motor in the wrangler and gladiator.
That’s it.❤✌️
If you bought a new Jeep before Covid, drive it until the wheels fall off cause you’ll never pay those prices again.
50k for a truck with manual crank windows is ridiculous.
Yep all new truck prices are brutal. But the gladiator msrps are up there! Thank God they run discounts and specials and can be negotiated
Prices are coming down slowly, but what made people think they could start marking up their prices for their used cars? People are nuts.
It's All Games People Play. Just like
You said! Maybe they will get it. With
Enough Just Collecting Dust And Rust?? 🙃😎🙂
Calm down guys. I paid 43k for a 24 willys. the same price I paid in 21 for a willys!
Should be 30k if that!!!
I got a 23 Willys right after Christmas. All options and 6 year warranty for $43k. I am damn happy with that! The backseat space is great for my baby's car seat. Already taken it on a few trails and had the doors and roof off multiple times. It's a great truck!
Outstanding! Great deal on an amazing truck
36k here.😊
24 for 43k here. paid the same in 21 for my other willys (2)
This is what a jeep is. My father used to say “Any car older than three years will be considered an old car, but Jeep will always be a legend.”❤✌️
I would agree with that
Purchase a 2023 new leftover Willys this March 2024 MSRP was $58,300 paid $40k at 40k The vehicle is worth its price at 58K I would not have purchased it. It’s not worth that kind of money.
Agree..would of never bought mine at msrp either. Not worth msrp.
I bought a 2021 Willys with 17k miles at 10 mos old. The thing booked for $54k. I paid 40k out the door with a powertrain lifetime warranty.
@@rockstar69ster very nice
Good rant I agree which is why I never pulled the trigger On this vehicle. No matter if it has 15-20k discounts. That’s just 1-2 year of depreciation from sitting On the lot. Then it drops another 10-15k once’s you drive off with it. 💸
I love these trucks. And for 15 to 20k off they are excellent buys with super strong resale. But at msrp they are a little tok steep
@@Jason-Samko yes sir rubicon eco diesel all the way
All the cons mentioned in this video is exactly why I bought a Jeep. Great off roader. I don’t use it for a daily driver, it is for my adventures…
My gripe is that they discontinued the 3.0 diesel, I REALLY wanted that engine in a gladiator 😒
Yep government pushing hard to get rid of diesel is the usa. Sucks too. Love diesels
American government, rest of the world loves Diesel engines.@@Jason-Samko
From what I heard, they are bringing in the hurricane engine, since the recent 3 liter diesel actually had some pretty bad flaws, might be worth waiting for
The 3L diesel was an Italian made POS. Be lucky they killed that engine in the Jeep Gladiator.
Don't worry, you aren't missing much with that Diesel 😉
I live in Houston Texas and I'm telling you that most Jeeps here are tricked out Mall Crawlers. Over 95 percent of Jeeps in Houston will never leave the pavement. These machines were designed for off- road, instead purchased as a status symbol. The ironies of life...
Definitely is a popular mall crawler. But love thst people take pride in their vehicles and want to mod them out, even if they don't off road
I guess you don’t understand what a Jeep is about if you believe they’re only built for offroad. Since its introduction to the military the purpose of the vehicle was to get you in and out of any terrain. So today many of your mall crawlers want a vehicle for the “just in case” roads are snowy rocky uneven flooded I know with the jeep I’m getting home and people like that kind of insurance in their back pocket. And of course there are overlanders who don’t plan to bang up their expensive ass Jeep on rocks for fun but want to camp etc. This is a utilitarian vehicle and now as a pickup it’s a vehicle every one should own I mean if they can afford it because Stellantis is trying to price us out !!
Thats okay for people like us who want to buy used and not abused
Why does it matter what people do with their own money? If they dont want to take it off road, well so be it. I see exotic cars on the road doing 100kmh, should they not be allowed to buy them if they dont drive them hard like theyre meant to be? And no, I dont own a Jeep, I did have an old TJ Rubicon that I took camping in the forest, not offroading or rock crawling.
@@kiwionarope why does it matter what you think?
Gladiators are the best off road pickup, and I like that the price is high because I don’t want other people to own one. I wanna have mine and look down on you for having some cheap Japanese truck.
lol. Gladiator is amazing.
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‘21 Mojave owner here: The only thing I’d like updated is the inline 6 twin turbo. I’d buy one in a second.
Would be so amazing! But I'd love it if thry put a front locker in the Mojave. I love that jeep but I have to have the front locker in the swamps. I want a Mojave with a front locker bad!!
@@Jason-Samko Buy a Rubicon and add suspension?
@travroy could do that too. I actually really like the rubicon stock shocks off road though.
Prices are still way high for lower trims. My local dealer has several 23 sport s msrp 62k. That’s stupid!
Yep msrp prices are insane. That's why thry don't sell any until year end sales
@@Jason-Samko I’m seeing many dealers videos of the 25 Ram. You should test drive one and review it….
@@Jason-Samko weren't the dealers discounting then by like 15-20% a few weeks ago. I was almost tempted to buy one instead of the zr2 I got.
@@robertopics that was for the left over 23s. And those are definitely the smart buy if you can still find them. None left down here in south GA anymore.
got mine 3 weeks ago. 23 rubicon it was only 44
People that complain about the gas mileage are also the same people that don't get bigger tires. I've seen multiple reports now of the new Tacoma on 35s getting the same exact if not worse gas mileage than I do on my gladiator.
Agree. I didn't buy a gladiator for gas mileage. I bought it because no other truck can go where it can
I bought a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Max Tow loaded with LED light package. Paid $42,000 back then. I have since built it up with 37s, falcon terra flex suspension, and front locker with LSD in the rear. It’s been a fantastic off road experience. The Max Tow has a lot of bonuses for a sport model.
Love it! And love that you added the front locker! It's the one that matters most. Have a video about that coming out soon.
Sounds like a beautiful truck!
Honestly if they price it right and not make their customer pay extra for everything and stand behind their products, Jeep would be unstoppable… I want to buy one but cannot justify the price…
Getting 15 grand off of these Gladiators should not be that hard to do. Never pay attention to a window sticker on a Ram or Jeep. Always trying to negotiate and if that dealer won't find another dealer that will
Everything you laid out is why I went from my 2021 Rubicon to a 2023 ecodiesel Rubicon when I did. Part of my build was full skids. It doesn’t take much for something like a rock or stump to cause 10k+ worth of damage off road. Again 95% of folks will probably never use it as a Jeep, but it’s the only Solid axle midsize pickup you can get in the US.
The skids are a great idea! And the diesel is amazing. And agree 100% on loving the solid front axle!
I'd probably buy one if Jeep ever released a Rubicon 392 version
Would love a 382 Mojave with a front locker!!!
It will never happen. Go to AMW for a 35K engine swap.
And it would be OVER 100,000
Traded my Tacoma got a mojave super nice ride but after a trip to the beach i was done so narrow inside the driver compartment. Yes it wondered all over the road. 2wks later I'm back in a 23 TRD come on with V8 and a floor board design.
I’ve owned 14 jeeps and pretty much my entire adult life never been without a Jeep I love them, recently I’ve owned a jeep 392 and I cheated I had a bronco raptor, I recently purchased the gladiator because of the huge sales they’ve been having and after the purchase I immediately modified it lift kit tires etc. etc. the usual builds and it comes to life when you do that, The gladiator has completely grown on me and I love it, it tows and handles much better than the standard wrangler/Rubicon, I do tow a modified off-road teardrop trailer and it works so well, and it’s a nice change having a Jeep that has a pick up truck bed, I recommend the gladiator and if you can find a 2023 model the sales are incredible and we are still fortunate in the United States that we can get a 4 x 4 that’s built on a solid frame that we can modify with no limits. In regards to mpg nothing I’ve ever owned has gotten incredible fuel economy, yes I wish it got better gas mileage but it’s still similar to everything else on the market. Jeep has done a great job with the gladiator!!!
Glad you love the gladiator too! It's the funnest and most capable truck I've ever owned. And it daily drives great too. I've owned 4 wranglers over the years and loved them. But the gladiator offers that with a truck bed! Love it.
The biggest selling point for me on these is I can get a manual transmission built by Toyota (Aisin). Only other new manual transmission you can get is in the Tacoma in this segment. I found a sport with hardtop in my area for $38k on a 24' seems like a good deal. Thanks for the vid.
Love the manuals!
I've owned a JLU and currently a Gladiator. The only complaint I have is I have had corrosion issues on both of my Jeeps. My Gladiator is about to go into the shop again for the second time because now it's bubbling on the rear door. Bed rail last time and my JLU had corrosion on the inside of the tailgate in 2019.
@@rockstar69ster glad you are loving both your jeeps
I bought the Gladiator because I wanted a bed and the ability to take the doors and roof off, I wanted the solid front axle and lockers. I use mine for overlanding/camping and hitting the trails. Most people who buy the other trucks, dont really do much besides mall crawl in them. They buy the 4x4 for the appearance package and traction control.
The gladiator sure is a fun vehicle off road and love the freedom panels off. Have not taken doors off yet and probably won't. But such a fun capable truck
I agree with you on the pick and chose options. I believe all Wranglers should come standard from the factory with a trailer hitch/aux switches package. Some people may not tow, but they are certainly going to add a light or two.
Agree 100%
Absolutely!!! Could not agree more!! The price blows my mind (even more so than the price of the new Tacoma)!
I’ve never been inside a gladiator, but really want to test drive one, because it’s an appealing vehicle, for all the pros that you’ve mentioned before!
I like my Ram quad cab, but after doing some research, the gladiator has more rear seat leg room and space than my Ram 1500!
But $60k-$70k is just stupid!
Yep gladiator msrps are always insane. But they offer deals at the end of the year that are pretty good plus you can usually negotiate more
@@Jason-Samko there’s still a handful of 2023s up here in New England… that I’m sure could be negotiated off lots!
@@KevinEdge81 yep never been a better time to buy one
Last year I wanted to buy a Gladiator to replace my '16 Ram 1500 Quadcab 4wd Ecodiesel. My dealer was reluctant to take an order for an Ecodiesel JT. So I bought the lowest priced JLU on the lot, and kept my Ram 1500.
The prices are a killer of all vehicle sales. My wife has an '18 Ram 2500 Crewcab 4wd 6.7 Cummins, that we bought for $48k. Today a similar vehicle is $67k on the dealer lot. The dealers load up the options. But a 4wd vehicle should never have carpet!!!! It might be okay to have carpeted floor mats.
Agree prices today are crazy. But love every vehicle you just mentioned.
In any case, if you are going to make after market modifications, do not pay for a Rubicon or Mojave package, look for the most basic.❤✌️
That can work too
Good job on your videos! I went from a 3rd gen Tacoma for 5 years, to a 23 Silverado 1500 LTZ Duramax and sold it because of transmission issues at 40k miles. I just picked up a 23 Gladiator Rubicon manual. Really neat truck, I have 1500 miles on it so far. Its been 8 days lol. I have become used to the wind noise but it is loud. I'm in your neck of the woods outside of Savannah, this wind over the last few days has been blowing this jeep around on the highway so I'm still trying to get used to the amount of corrections I have to make to keep it straight. Also since 700 miles I've been getting a "Service Transmission" warning but I'm pretty sure its not an actual issue and is some kind of software issue. One other thing, I have noticed an issue where it momentarily cuts power like it misfires in 3rd and 4th sometimes. I test drove a 24 Tacoma manual yesterday and the rev hang is insane, it completely killed the enjoyment of that vehicle. Overall since I paid like 42k for a pretty loaded Rubicon with a color matched hard top I am happy with it and think nothing touches that. You are right, price is 100% the biggest issue with them.
I'd take it in and let warranty fix whatever issue it's having. But you are gonna love it!
High winds do blow it around a bit. Drove from Jacksonville to home in the winds yesterday. Adventure..lol.
Yep not impressed with the new tacoma I4 either.
Test drove one in Alvin Texas and not impressed at all. No power… left and bought a bronco! So glad I did!
A rubicon is a rock crawler not a high speed runner. You want the frame to flex a little, unlike when you are jumping dunes.
Good point
Got the '23 Gladiator Rubicon with a deep discount I battled for and I love it. I wouldn't get the '24 one because at least of price, and like you mentioned in other videos the windshield antenna - which is totally lame.
Congratulations on the amazing deals on the 23! Love mine and bet you are loving yours too!
4 months later you were right heavily discounted now. I’m in Tulsa and sport/sport s 33k-43k. I like them because of the V6. The turbos are loud. I like the ability to take the top off. I plan to move to Iowa where it snows. I won’t off-road it. I’m in the market for sport s or Willy’s not a Rubicon etc.
2 great trucks. The sport with max tow package will hold it's value much better than without max tow. The willys is amazing with the offroad plus button and rear locker now.
I have a 2020 Rubicon with 65K miles on it. No real problems and heavily modified. You are right, pricing with Stellantis is a joke. They need to reduce MSRPs to stay competitive. If Teslas are reducing prices to move product, they need to do the same. Just to put in perspective. I paid 56K out the door for a fully loaded Rubicon 4 years ago.
Yep prices are the biggest problem and really the only problem with a gladiator
I feel like for 70k you should be getting a top trim full size truck or a lower trim heavy duty diesel truck.
That's why nobody buys a gladiator at msrp. Or any ram for that matter. Negotiate. Huge savings
I own a 22 Gladiator Rubicon.
Biggest problem I see is PRICE!!!! How can Jeep justify $65-68K for a loaded Rubicon or Mojave when the MSRP for a Ranger Raptor is ONLY $55K. Wind noise, steering precession (or lack there of), and MPG are also issues. Despite all of this I LOVE my Gladiator.
Yep msrp price is stupid high. But if you get a deal on them they are my favorite vehicle I've ever owned!
@@Jason-Samko Agree completely. Problem is Jeep was offering huge discounts on 23s thus killing the value of any used models.
@SteveH98264 true. But I believe in 2 months when all 23s are sold off the value of used will skyrocket for 6 months until hopefully jeep discounts thr 24s again that aren't selling. So it's all about catching the windows of opportunity I think.
Where are you seeing Ranger Raptors for $55K? They're over $70K in my neck of the woods.
@@paulmccain7072 Its 58k for a raptor ranger. anything more is basically mark ups. Never pay markups. You dont have to.
I love my 2021 Rubicon Gladiator. But you are right on in your video. I couldn’t agree more. I paid way too much.
Wish jeep would under stand how many of these they would sell if they just lowered the price. Such a great truck.
In 1975 I bought a jeep CJ five 411 gears Detroit lockers, a winch and it was $4200!!!
Miss those days. Bought my first new truck when I was 16. It was a 91 chevy s10. Cost 7100 brand new
A lot of really good points. It all boils down to how much money they can get out of you.
Very true. And the sales guys do alot of training to make it emotional for you and suck every penny they can out of you.
I have a Mojave and I love it. I would much rather have a simple port injected V6 that is more reliable than a direct injection turbo. And they are the only vehicle with solid axles that can handle off road terrain. Independent suspension breaks easy and offers no articulation.
Agree jeep is amazing. It's my favorite truck I've owned. I love it.
I love your candor! For $70k they can keep 'em!!! Im happy with my paid off '02 TJ!!
@@icecreamsikeyuhasz5689 love the tj
$15K discounts and they still can't move them!
They are selling the 23s like crazy. And love that jeep is learning that to move them well price has to come down. Such an amazing truck
Ummm they are selling and peeps are getting great deals on a cool rig!
@DUNEATV yep they sure are. Hope the same happens again when I'm ready for my next one!
@itsallminor6133 jeep wrangler 4xe is the number one selling hybrid suv last 3 years and non hybrid is just a smidgen behind the 4xe. And it's been around and selling well for 80 years. Something tells me jeep is doing just fine
You nailed it: price is the #1 problem with the Gladiator. I want a midsize truck to tow a small camper, haul camping gear, and do light off-roading. I will shop a Sport S with the Max Tow Package, but at 55K, it is $10K more expensive than other nicely optioned midsize 4WD/AWD trucks. I am buying at the end of 2024, so if the Gladiator is competitive with other midsize trucks in price, I will consider it. Also hoping the Gladiator Sport S with the Max Tow Pkg will also come with 1,500 lbs +/- of payload like the GM twins, the Ranger, and the Ridgeline. Disappointed in the Tacoma and Frontier in terms of payload despite being nice trucks.
Love that you are shopping now and doing your research. This ensures you get the right truck and best deal when the time comes in a few months
@@Jason-Samko absolutely. Thanks!
My 2024 Willys 43k with all the 24 upgrades in safety, rear locker, infotainment update, spray in bedliner, clear coat paint protection, aux switches,
My 2021 Willys 43k 8 inch infotainment, none of the above mentioned upgrades.
The prices are high, but you have to know where to look. Most dealers offer free delivery up to 250 miles.
I got my 2024 from 500 miles from my home. It saved me thousands. You have to know how to shop!
BUt oddly enough jeep gave 3 free oil changes and tire rotations in 21 but only 2 in 24
@tanishazoa138 yep the deals are out there on jeep if you know how to get them. Congratulations on your new willys. And atleast jeep still gives free oil and tires in the beginning. Toyota charges 700 for 2 oil and 4 tire rotations on the window sticker
@@Jason-Samko ty. I need to check my window sticker. Haha
Jason, I love your videos and format. You are one of only a few RUclipsrs who actually talk about exactly everything that matters to me. Keep up the good work. PS I love your other videos about how the Gladiator is the best midsized truck on the market.
@robertedwards3822 thank you. Greatly appreciated
i love my Gladiator Rubicon i went with the mopar 2 inch lift and 35x11.5 17s its unstoppable.
Such an amazing truck! Agree it's so capable! And love the 35x1150s
I literally just bought a Gladiator Rubicon today it's 2023 with 20 miles on it. Window sticker 65k and got it for 45k I'm pretty dammed happy with that. I've had many Jeeps over the last 40 years including a Camanchy which was a car with a truck bed. I know I'll love this thing and after I put some of the money I saved into the truck I will really love it. Thanks for the Vid.
Congratulations on a killer deal on an amazing truck
3 things that would fix the Jeep.
1) air suspension.
2) v8 motor.
3) better insulation, sounf proofing.
Nice vid! The gladiator is the perfect combination if you love wrangler and Ram 1500, plus endless possibilities for personalization.
Agree 100%
If you don't want a jeep don't buy a jeep .
2023 Rubicon EcoDiesel msrp 75,795. I got 23,023 off of sticker. Drove it home last week. Happy camper here.
Absolutely outstanding! Congratulations on a great deal and an amazing vehicle!
But if you shop around you can find more reasonable deals. I just bought a 2024 Sport S, with a few nice packages, the MSRP was $52,025! That included the granite crystal met. paint $595, cust. prefer pack 24S $3,500, power windows and locks, color matching fenders, gorilla glass, deep tint glass and power heated mirrors. Then convenience group at $2,095, automatic temp control, heated seats and wheel, passive entry and lock, remote start and universal garage door opener. Then active safety group, at $1,395, with LED tail lamps, park sense and cross path detection, automatic high beam-headlight control. Then Automatic trans $ 2,500, plus Freedom Hardtop $1,595, finally sprayed bed liner $555! But at my dealership, Thunder Jeep, I got a $15,000!! Discount!!!!
Outstanding! Yep just made a video a couple weeks ago about the current gladiator deals. They are starting to get good. Glad you got a great deal too!
The cons are ridiculous. My 1st jeep was a 77cjwith the 304 3 speed. Wind noise? Hearing yourself think was impossible. AC was taking the top off. The ride hurt, it was all over the road like horse manure after a parade. It's a jeep, or at least it was.
The ONE thing the Gladiator SHOULD do that the Wrangler can’t do well is tow. That’s the only reason I’m even considering the Gladiator. I appreciate this video, but for folks looking at this truck instead of the Wrangler is so we can tow something. Most reviews of the Gladiator’s towing pales in comparison to other trucks in this price range. The Gladiator should have a 392 and priced at $55k.
i tow a 3k enclosed trailer and my bed packed to the gills for thousands of miles each year in my gladiator. Does great.
It would be great if it could tow 7000 pounds safely up and down hills. I don’t think it even has a built-in trailer brake controller. Again, for a truck in this price range, the competition is better. If not towing, the Wrangler is hard to beat.
Aloha Sam. This is a terrific video on this topic. You provide great points in your observations and analyses.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it
Such a unique vehicle! Love it!
I do too. So perfect for my lifestyle
That’s unfortunate because I was able to build a hard top on their site for 42k. Im sure it’s next to impossible to find one but it’s worth mentioning. On a separate note, the break over angle on the gladiator isn’t fantastic either
Break over is not great but neither is the new tacoma, colorado or ranger with how much bigger they are getting
@@Jason-Samko agreed
Great point!! Jeep owners break their jeeps with all their garbage mods. This car is perfect from the factory.
Agree 100%. Majority of jeep problems are owner inflicted
I have the Mojave and the wondering did go away almost completely when it reached 5K miles. My guess is that the new tire tread amplified the wondering and I have gotten acclimated to it.
I would not let this behavior influence the purchasing decision.
I love the way a solid front axle vehicle wanders a bit. Makes driving fun and you feel part of the experience. In a world where people want cars to drive themselves and vehicles thst can parallel park for you and back your trailer up for you, I am the complete opposite. I love the input from the road, I love backing up trailers with my own skill. The gladiator is the most fun truck ever made as well as the most capable off road truck ever made. I would not change a thing except the price and sure wish jeep would put a damn front locker in the mojave!
Absolutely agree. They should change their trims to equate different suspension and axle setups. Rubi as it is, Sport with IFS, Sahara with all indi. So ppl could choose whichever route they’d want to go; rock crawling, overlanding, or speed/handling/comfort etc.
No doubt the prices on all vehicles have inflated but American vehicles, especially the jeep wrangler platform offers purpose built and rightly equipped for off-road, plus the most modular rig.
Wrangler/Gladiator is a very good platform for overland utilitarian metal top SUV, like the LC70 and old Defender.
I don’t know what the Stellantis’s marketing and pricing strategy is but as an off-road enthusiast, I fear their lack of sales may end one of the last few mass built purpose built combustion motor vehicles at attainable prices.
You’d have to be nuts to buy a new anything in 2024. Owner #1 will get reamed by the depreciation. If buying an upper trim you’re gonna lose $10K off the lot and $10K a year for the first few years, guaranteed. I just got a like-new ‘21 JT Ruby with $25K in factory options for $39,5. MSRP was $63K back then… at todays rate it would be a $76K truck new, and you can’t even spec a new one out that well from the factory anymore on the Jeep website!
Congratulations on your gladiator
Know your a JT / Jeep fan as I am & I agree with you on some things but not everything , first it's a box but so is the JL & they sell fine . Second I'm told the reason the 2.0 turbo isn't in the Gladiator is because it's to light & can't get the trail rated badging due to this . I know you gotta know this already but the Rubicon is built to go offroad & hit some rock trails hence the Rubicon name whereas the Mojave is built to go fast in the sand where the locker isn't needed as much in this situation. Let's be honest on fuel economy & some other issues , us Jeepers aren't as concerned with the fuel economy especially since most of us are gonna lift & install way bigger tires on. As far as wondering on the road I just haven't experienced it to the point I wanna buy something else & it can be made better . The price is a big issue but I honestly don't see more being offered for the save or less money from Toyota and others , I actually thought of picking up a TRD instead of the JT but once I looked into them I realized there just as much when comparing equal to equal. As far as road noise from having removable roof/panels i haven't experienced noise due to these options & ive owned alot of Jeeps over the years Appreciate the videos & your insights these are just my thoughts as well.
I agree with everything you said. And this was a very hard video to make as there are so few disappointments with the gladiator. It's outstanding. But I had to make it as I made one on every mid size truck to help people make the best decision for them. So I tried to mention things thst are brought up often. But agree 100 with you it's not very loud, drives great and is such a capable vehicle.
One of the local dealers to me has 32 glads and 58 wranglers in stock. ‘24 glads are marked down 6-8k. And wranglers are 4-8k depending on trim level. All the glads except for the sport s are 8k off. And the dealer is talked to said they have more glads incoming. I live in ohio about an hr from toledo too. Dealers around here are piling up with new jeep inventory and they cant move it
Love hearing that! Means I will get a banging deal when I buy my next one next year
The dealers really killed the Gladiators up here in the northeast. While Jeep was offering discounts last year the dealers were increasing their MSRP then using the "jeep discount" to bring the prices back down to the original MSRP. I would blame them first for killing the sales of these. 2nd point some of the oem tire packages until you get up to the Mojave and Rubicon models do nothing for the looks of these. At least from the factory. 3rd as far as the solid axle complaints we've become a nation of pansies. Just my 3c.
Yep stock sport tires don't look all that good on a truck this size and shape
Having driven ,and still do ,willys and cjs most of my life my gladiator drives and handles like a dream , people just like to whine , my diesel gladiator gets great mileage also .it handles all my camping and overlanding stuff perfectly. I didn’t buy it to haul around a huge camper which requires full size pickup , of course no full size pickup will go where i go .
@@chuckshade7959 agree 100% it's amazing
Anyone buying crap like this and plan to actually use it for what its designed to do needs their head examined. 99% of people will not use this for what it was intended and real off roaders all drive older beat up stuff because they're constantly bending stuff.
Gladiator that gets "about 20 mpg," is about 5 mpg more than I've ever gotten with the 3 I've owned.
I get 18.7 at 70mph with mine and I have 35x11.50s. But as soon as I hut the highways that fly and end up doing 80 or 85 with traffic it drops to 17.
I special orderd the Gladiator Rubicon in 2021. I've driven from Maryland to New York using the Jersey Turn Pike and averaged 17-21 mpgs. From Maryland to Allentown PA and averaged 16-8 to 17.2 Driving regular roads. My every day driving I get 16.6-17.1 if I drive normal. Every so often I enjoy getting on it as I installed Volant Air Intake and change my oil using Pennsoil Ultra Synthetic every 3-4000 miles and also rotate my tires the same time. We haul alot of stuff in the bed. I now have 34,000 and wouldn't seel or trade it. I've owned many different brands of vehicles and this is the best that enjoy. Great in the snow and exceptional on back roads. Yanni
Yep hard to beat the quality, capabilities and fun factor of the gladiator
Yeah! I'd like to special order the Gladiator Rubicon X but even our special discount I'm not pay the high Inerest Rates. When I odered my 2021 we got 3.49%for 72 month and mine cost $57,000 out he door!@@Jason-Samko
The raptor is going to fall apart if you try to use it like a jeep
I do believe of the 3 super mid sizers (zr2, raptor, gladiator) the raptor would be the first to suffer from issues due to the electronics in the mud and water down here in the swamps. So much tech in the raptor ranger. Probably great out west in the sand and rock. But in the mud Id be worried about electrical gremlins.
I was hoping for a 2 door Gladiator with a half cab, and a short box.. something along the lines of the old Jeep Comanche. I don’t want or need 4 doors or a full sized truck. I use my 08 JKU like a pickup… it’s about the perfect size for my needs. Any bigger and it’s to cumbersome in the woods. I was hoping Jeep would release a 2 door gladiator with a short box… but it doesn’t seem promising so I will probably convert my JKU to a flatbed .
If jeep is listening I’d love to see them release a 2 door gladiator, with short box, diesel engine, and manual transmission. I don’t know why they always pair the diesel with an automatic transmission. They would corner the market… as no one, not even Toyota makes a 2 door compact pickup anymore… and a small diesel truck would make so much sense.
@@andrewwentzel a 2 door with 7 foot bed would be pretty awesome too
As you have clearly indicated, there is no reason as to why certain items should come with the high dollar price tag. There isn’t a Jeep made that’s worth $70,000 plus dollars. I once owned a Gladiator Overland two years ago that was full loaded to a Rubicon accessories. Had to order it but I got what I needed. I paid $52,789. For this truck. Got rid of it due to oil problems dry starts that Chrysler could fix on all their V6 engines. Now that same Jeep is near $75,000 for a cheap Jeep. No more Chrysler products. Junk! And Chrysler don’t care.
Yep msrp prices are crazy stupid on these. But thankfully jeep is learing that and now offering huge deals. Hopefully they continue to do so.
1. Make a bulletproof manual
2. Lower the entry price on bare bones models
@@erikmireles5879 good points
Way To Go.
Tell it Like it Is! ⭐️⭐️⭐️🙃
Glad you enjoyed it
I am hoping that they come out with a 2 door model and a longer bed,.
That would be pretty awesome
In other words. The Jeep Gladiator is a truck that's not meant for everyone. And personally. I hope it stays that way. In a world of weak unibody turbo 4-cylinder trucks that's gonna cost you a few grand when those turbos fail. It's nice to see that the Gladiator is a real true mid-size truck.
Yep love the robustness and quality of the gladiator. As well as how reliable it is today and how easy and cheap to fix.
You are not wrong
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
Love my Gator gladiator. Had it since summer of 2020 .
Such an amazing truck!
While I love my Mojave it comes with a lot of negatives. But that's the price you pay for the positives. At the end of the day the Gladiator does things no other truck offers.
Agree 100% I think the gladiator is the best truck for my lifestyle!
@@Jason-Samko I needed a midsize truck that fit my family of four comfortably. Well that can be done by all midsize trucks. But we love to go to the beach, I have always wanted a convertible, and I love trail riding. So.....the obvious choice was a Gladiator.
@wusaint and the gladiator does all of those very well. And more backseat space than any of the others.
Word on the street is the Hurricane is a little too long for 2024 and older Wranglers and Gladiators. Saw somewhere what seemed to be wrangler rubicon prototype. It had slightly longer front end presumably to fit the new hurricane. 2024 Glad Rubicon and Mojave are $7000 to $10000 off MSRP here in Houston, TX. Puts most $51k-$55k and jumps to $59k on the X levels. Not terrible, but it's tough competition with ZR2 right there $49k-$52k. Ranger Raptor also tough competition if you can get near MSRP.
Thats sucks. You just crushed my dreams! 😂 in reality it probably would of been 100k anyway and out of my leauge
A Ford dealer near my home has a Ranger Raptor advertised with a $15,000 mark-up on top of MSRP.
@@Jason-Samko The smart play would be simply pay off glad and do it through America's Most Wanted swap. I believe they're the ones who figured out it wasn't going in with current engine bay length.
@@dvader3263 Few people reporting here they got it within like $2500 of MSRP, which is nice to hear.
@dvader3263 yep raptor ranger mark ups are gonna be very common. Their criminal and crap dealers, but it's gonna be common.
the 4 cyl tacomas are averaging 12mpg or less -- its not substantial enough to brag about, over a gladiator. the 4cyl is also having a difficult time when its loaded down for overlanding, according to the tacoma forums.
@hzy1234 yep the new taco spends alot of time in the boost when you add weight and bigger tires. It's gonna eat turbos in the offroad world.
The paint is blistering on all JL's and JT's, It is a 5 yr warranty, but the corrosein and blistering paint will always comeback.
I hear people say thst but have never seen it in person on any of the hundreds of jeeps I look at and of the 17 people I know personally with jl or it's not one has thst issue. If it does happen I'd just have jeep fix it under warranty. If it came back I'd have em fix it again. But I don't think it's that common of jeep would of fixed it along time ago.
The Mojave isn't supposed to be a rock crawler or mudbogger. It's a dessert runner. This it doesn't need front lockers or full skids. The Rubicon is the top trim and made for hardcore technical off-roading, which is usually slow crawling so extra frame reinforcement isn't needed. Jeep isn't missing the mark. They survey and see what people want.
As far as prices, I just looked and a Ranger Raptor starts at $57k then add the "market adjustment" ford dealers all do. Also factor in the 25% inflation for 2018 when you could get a Sport for $35k. Tack on union demands for more money and guess what. We the consumer have to pay more money.
True. But I still want a majave with a front locker!
For me I hate the look needs 37s a slight lift etc minimum to look decent rear taillights even uglier 🤮. Dated power train with questionable reliability I know some say otherwise but i dont trust it Then MSRP haha GTFO. So u would need to add minimum 10k+ to get it up to par in looks department. Even with the massive discounts saw Rubicons for 47k to 50k then add on the 10k+ in mods just not worth it. If u could get a Rubicon for low $40k range, I would definitely be much more willing to jump in.
They sure do look great with 37s.
Jeep management is threatening to ruin the brand by price gouging. They need too drop the prices $10K to be competitive. I can get a Tacoma TRD or a Z71 for about$50K.
Jeep is definetly priced high! But seems like the buyers has put their foot down and forced them to run big sales at the end of the year to move them. hopefully jeep will do the same again.
lambo's are stupid too because i want one but they ask to much for them too 😆
More of a Porsche 911 guy myself😂
Love my 2021 Gladiator Rubicon. I came from a 16 TRD Off road. The Jeep is a way nicer truck. The Toyota V6 was absolutely gutless off line with no low end torque. New model with the turbo 4 (No thanks) you can keep all the small turbo motors,
The Jeep is purposed built for people who actually use theirs off road. the fact that you can run 33's stock on a Rubicon or Mojave and with a leveling kit 35's with clearance is another advantage.
Love my 23 gladiator rubicon too. No better truck for what I need and do
It's a boxy truck BECAUSE it's a Jeep based off the ORIGINAL design... What more aerodynamics? Buy a Cherokee ‼️ Complaints regarding the back seat accessibility... I didn't buy my Gladiator to haul passengers AROUND every day. Just shut 😶up and get in‼️✅✅
Jeez, I have a four door V6 that gets 24 mpg on the highway 70%, City 30%
I drove Wranglers from the time I was 16 until 5 years ago. I am 46 now. I LOVED the Wrangler, but even I can explain what the hell Jeep is thinking. No more Sahara in a 2 door. In order to get color matched fender flares and top I have to spring for a Rubicon. Why? I don't need the transfer case. I don't need sway bar disconnects. I don't need the 4:10 gears. We all asked for a V8 for YEARS. Could they give a 5.7 hemi? No. Of course not. They give us a 392 in a 4 door only with horrible gas mileage...and still only in a Rubicon. ANYWAY, I digress. This is about the Gladiator. It's just effin ugly. Yes, it looks great from the front, but that is the ugliest truck bed of any truck. I know it's subjective, but as a guy who loves Wrangler styling, I think it says something. Jeep missed the boat with the Gladiator. Removeable top and doors? GREAT! Better idea--- Make a half ton Jeep truck. Base it closer to the old Kaiser trucks, give it a 5.7 or a diesel. That brings me to the next gripe. It isn't very good at most TRUCK things. It can't haul much. It can't tow much. It has very little storage. When I finally left the Wrangler behind, I considered a Gladiator for about 3 seconds.... Final reason? Price. For what you are getting, it is absolutely ridiculous. I agree with the earlier comment who mentioned they expected much more from a 60-70k Vehicle. On the good side, I didn't completely leave the family. For nearly 3 years I have been VERY happily driving a Ram 1500 Limited with Ramboxes and the air suspension. Am I going to go trail running in that vehicle? No, of course not. It's a luxury pickup. For the same price I could have had a Gladiator with a third of the luxury, an ugly profile, and bad gas mileage... BUT I could have taken the top and doors off! Nah, If I want another Wrangler, I'll buy a Wrangler. Just my .02. Cheers!
sounds like a gladiator is not for you. Congrats on your ram 1500.
1) nobody and i do mean nobody who buys a wrangler or gladiator is looking at the MPG ratings when buying, I admire JEEP for keeping with tradition of the body style over the years.
2) I do agree they should have released a new motor option for the gladiator, I would of liked to see a 392 option. Better yet bring back the 4.0 in-line 6. These vehicles do not need a fuel efficient option that would be sub-par on the trails.
3) I don't know what JEEP did on the 2024's but my 2024 Gladiator Rubicon Rubicon edition feels more confident around town and at 85MPH on the highway by leaps and bounds. I previously owned 2011 JKU Sport. Does it drive like an Escalade? No, but it is also 50k less. I would know my girlfriend just bought one.
4) Everyone that owns a JEEP does not care about road noise, we literally bought a vehicle we can remove the doors and roof.
5) Yeah the backseat is dismal but it is a mid-size pickup at the end of the day.
6) The Mojave and Rubicon are both purpose built vehicles, the Rubicon is meant to crawl slowly on technical trails where you need both front and rear lockers with the sway bar disconnect, the Mojave is meant to blast through the dunes hence the reinforced frame. Every manufacturer has trim levels.
7) The essentials are protected, when you add full length skid plates you add a lot of weight even if you go the aluminum route. As you mentioned these are already vehicles that need to be driven, so why would they make it harder? Plus skid plates change the entire drag coefficient of the truck.
8) I do believe Stellantis is smoking crack when pricing these trucks, I could have bought and Silverado 1500 ZR2 for 4k more than my truck granted it is a limited edition. However, that Silverado could never hold a light to the offroad prowess of JEEP and that is how they get away with it.
Everything you said I agree with 100%. But backseat wise, as someone that has tested every midsize truck. The gladiaor has a Ton of back seat space comparatively . And the gladiaor rear storage is unmatched, like by a long shot. Love the back seat space and storage of the gladiator.
@@Jason-Samko That's honestly surprising to me. I haven't had any passengers in the rear yet, just my dogs.
The Mojave shouldn't cost more than $50K.. Ridiculous
It doesn't. You can get one all day for 45
The rear departure angle, WAY over priced and fiat engineering.
Ive got a '05 Wrangler thats modified that WILL run circles around a gladiator and have NO WHERE near the price of a gladiator in it. Ive wheeled with a Rubicon gladiator and he couldnt keep up. 😂
Glad you are loving your 05! They were excellent
Apples to oranges in comparison
You just complained about a jeep being a jeep. The frame issue options, point made. Want better gas mileage, take the top off and roll down the windows. It's a jeep. Let the Jeep be a jeep.
I said these are things "other people" complain about! I own and love my 23 gladiator rubicon. Best truck made for my lifestyle. But I make disappointment videos on all brands to help people find what's best for them
Exactly the Mojave is a competitor to the Ford Raptor. Not having a better engine in it is crazy. While nothing will dethrone the Ford Raptor Line for off road speed and performance I think more people would get a Mojave with a better power train.
Yep keep the 3.6 for reliability freaks and give an option for the hurricane motor for those that want more punch
Great off road capability…..dependability not very good …. ….way overpriced……
My opinion the one of the most I proven and reliable motor and Trans combos available today. 14 million 3.6 motors on the road with a less than 1% failure rate. That's pretty amazing.
Price point is the main issue. I agree
Yep but if they have deals again like last fall it's worth waiting and buying then for huge savings
For 70k I rather pay a little more for a Raptor honestly. Love the jeeps but there is much better out there for your money
A gladiator mojave or rubicon is realistically 50k right now if you know how to shop and buy em.
I love the Gladiator, but with a family that includes a teenage daughter money pit, just can't see it.
I remember those days! Even when they move out it still cost alot of money monthly to help. Worth it! But expensive
I bought gladiators I never had any win problems I loved the my gladiator amazing truck for off road!
Yep love mine too. Best truck for my life style. And I did a driving impression video showing wind noise is very low. I love this truck.
The prices are way too high, but if they had the 392 in them, they would be pushing 80 to 100 grand for them. Just like the Rubicons. I think the Rubicons are overrated.
Never pay msrp or anywhere near that for a jeep. You don't have to. Love my rubicon. No other truck will go when this takes me. Use my front locker 10 times a week every week
@Jason-Samko I'm not saying the Rubicon isn't a great choice, I just think they are very overpriced. I also think all jeeps should come with lockers. That way, we would have a better choice of what we want. I love the Willy's addition myself.
Look for the 2023's! I just bought a new 23 Gladiator High Altitude loaded, they gave me employee price and $20,000 off MSRP!
Outstanding. You are gonna love it!
People buy these to play with not for gas mileage! Buy a Toyota car if you want t good gas mileage. Dang sick of people complaining about stupid stuff
Needs more power.
More power would be nice!