I got the Sport because I was saving Mega$$$ dollars over a Rubican and Mohave . Another factor is that I am not a Hard Core off Roader, mostly Forestry Roads and Snow in the Winter, another Factor was , with all the aftermarket stuff you can get , felt by getting Sport I can build it more they way I want it and get what is important to me without spending on stuff I did not want or need.... Lovin the Gladiator ! Thanks for the Video
Great review! Bought a 2024 Mojave X about a week ago and drove it directly to a specialist for tint, PPF, Ceramic coating and a bunch of smaller stuff. Can’t wait to hit the road/trails!
I love my 22 mojave. Wife, got the 4xe Rubicon. It's pretty cool, has the turbo. She commutes in it and really likes it. But for me, Mojave was the only choice.
Just picked up a new 23 Mojave with freedom hardtop and cold weather for $43.5K. I'm happy. Handed down my '15 Ram 1500 to my father. Wife and kids love the Jeep. I've had J10s, XJs, and a ZJ, years ago. I'm planning to keep it bone stock until the warranty is out. Then 35s and a few goodies.
I had some of the same thought process when I bought my 2022 JT Rubicon. While I don't plan to tow to 7000 lbs, it is nice to know I can. I do love the desert and the Mojave is very attractive for that. But I also love the rocks and will be doing that more than open desert. I also have roof top tent, and plan to use this for camping far more than hauling. A small trailer is in the works though. Rubicon works better for my needs, but I do love the hood the Mojave gets! I traded my 2013 Dodge Journey AWD for the Gladiator. I got spoiled with the Uconnect 8.4" system, heated seats and steering wheel. Those were absolute must haves for any vehicle I considered. Select Trac would be nice, though. I still have my 95 Grand Cherokee with Select Trac, and agree, that is left in Full Time there most of the winter. The old Jeep is due for some suspension upgrades soon and bigger tires, it sits on 3" lift and 31s at present. It has served well for the last 17 years and is go to live on in it's retirement years as more toy than daily... For comparison. I bought a 2002 Ford F150 4x2 in 2002. I still have this truck. It has a 6500 lb tow max. And weighs 500 pounds LESS than my JT Rubicon. But is a much roomier cab and smoother ride. A friend says it's more like a car, but for BIG people... Both trucks get similar mileage. I have about 165,000 miles on that old truck.
You are the ONLY person I've seen discuss Selec Trac full time 4WD (19/20 minutes into vid). Even the limited slip are overlooked by dealers as far as ordering. You go out there and MOST (the large majority) of them on the lots do NOT. And No, the full time 4WD auto is what's on Ram 1500's. I do see how its referenced on the shifter. I've had all the 4WD systems on my trucks including your basic 4WD like most Gladiators, limited slip added and finally the "full time 4WD." I first figured this out with a 2007 Subaru that has full time 4WD built into the design AND limited slip as an option. It was awesome. For Montana where you are definitely going to get six weeks or more of partially snowed over, slushy roads, full time 4WD (selec trac) makes life substantially easier while not detracting much at all from your core 4WD capabilities. Dealers don't order it, or even limited slip surprisingly and most consumers don't have a clue honestly. As you alluded to, consumers buy a 4WD and think hey! I got it all and if you mention binding, they are like what are you talking about? In fact, IF you order, you have to pay attention to make sure you do order it. Go try to find it on the Jeep Build webpages... Not there... You gotta be sitting there with a knowledgeable sales rep while you are ordering it to make sure you get both the limited slip and the Selec Trac. I found a dealer out west who had limited slip on ALL of his Gladiators and Selec Trac on most of them (Rubicons have different name for it). But for my dealer, I asked him (sales manager who ordered them) and he made it clear to me that HE got it. He understood and he also knew his customers and that they didn't understand the distinctions when in fact they NEEDED to and limited slip at least was warranted always and selec trac if you can get it. I'd much rather have limited slip for 795 than that stupid speaker thing behind the seats for 595. First snowfall, like you described will learn you that lesson. Of course while you are stuck in the ditch, I guess you could get the speaker thing out and play with it.
I agree with you on the limited slip & Selec-Trac, ordered my JLU with both options. There are alot of times that I don't need to shift into 4WD from a stand still because of the limited slip.
mulling over these same options myself. The Sport S seems to be the trim all the dealers want to upfit w/crazy cost upgrades so they are almost impossible to find in my area without all that stuff. The Rubicon seems to be the most off road capable. While this is good, I don't know that I would be doing the extreme type wheeling that trim would be best for. Therefore, I kind of think the Mojave is the best one too but can't seem to find one with as big a discount as the other 2 in the previous years models (2022). The search continues.
Fact , dealership up the street has had the same gladiator sports s on the lot going on 63 days and it’s barley loaded and asking 48k with a soft top …
One thing about the sport s max tow though is the payload. Hundreds of pounds more than the rubi/Mojave. Makes a big difference in terms of legal towing. I think the springs must also be stiffer than the other models. Cool vid tho and nice jeep!
My Mo-chine- the selection was based on it's color- I had no Idea I picked the perfect jeep for me... Desert rated was a trim never created before- it must have been just for me.
Not quite, you still don't have the wider versions of the Dana 44's that come on Max Tow, Rubicon, Mojave. You don't have rear locker, cast iron turn knuckles, extra frame gussets, the factory front skid plate, the Mojave hood, etc etc
When you do local recoveries in snow do people offer to pay you? Just curious. A guy pulled me out of a snow drift a while back. I just thanked him, didn't know if it was customary to offer a tip or something.
I've had people offer to throw me a couple bucks, but I usually don't accept it. Where i am it's pretty rural, helping people out like that is a courtesy and it's usually someone you know. I don't expect anything and i don't think they expect to pay anything. I also do volunteer recoveries through offroadportal.org/. absolutely no one expects payment for those services
@@Burns_Garage cool I'll look into offroadportal. I have a Tacoma equipped for snow recoveries. I carry gear but never found anyone needing a pull. Thanks for the reply.
@@daft4682 yeah, one of the reasons I like doing them through off-road portal is because there's a liability waiver that you're covered by. When I'm doing recoveries for folks I don't know (ie: come across someone in a ditch on my way home from work) I'll usually have them submit the request on off road recovery portal just to be covered... last thing I want is some crazy person trying to sue me because I damaged their vehicle haha
I don’t really trust those numbers for towing but then again you are well within the vehicle capabilities, I tow a 40 ft camper of about 6500 pounds with my F150 , just bought it and unplanned but needed I bought the same trim and same color as yours Gladiator, will not be using that to pull my trailer as it will definitely max it out. You are pulling less weight than what the trailer weighs sitting still on a scale or else ho do you explain a single person being able to push a train car? Clearly much heavier than a small trailer….
I got the Sport because I was saving Mega$$$ dollars over a Rubican and Mohave . Another factor is that I am not a Hard Core off Roader, mostly Forestry Roads and Snow in the Winter, another Factor was , with all the aftermarket stuff you can get , felt by getting Sport I can build it more they way I want it and get what is important to me without spending on stuff I did not want or need.... Lovin the Gladiator ! Thanks for the Video
do u think the 2025 nighthawk is worth it for that hardtop, and slightly larger tires n other internal features over the sport
Just bought a 2023 Gladiator Willys in Bright White, Love it 🤩 ✌️
So did I, absolutely luv it.
23 Mojave owner here - love it. Thanks for the video!
Great review! Bought a 2024 Mojave X about a week ago and drove it directly to a specialist for tint, PPF, Ceramic coating and a bunch of smaller stuff. Can’t wait to hit the road/trails!
I love my 22 mojave. Wife, got the 4xe Rubicon. It's pretty cool, has the turbo. She commutes in it and really likes it. But for me, Mojave was the only choice.
Just picked up a new 23 Mojave with freedom hardtop and cold weather for $43.5K. I'm happy. Handed down my '15 Ram 1500 to my father. Wife and kids love the Jeep. I've had J10s, XJs, and a ZJ, years ago. I'm planning to keep it bone stock until the warranty is out. Then 35s and a few goodies.
I had some of the same thought process when I bought my 2022 JT Rubicon. While I don't plan to tow to 7000 lbs, it is nice to know I can. I do love the desert and the Mojave is very attractive for that. But I also love the rocks and will be doing that more than open desert. I also have roof top tent, and plan to use this for camping far more than hauling. A small trailer is in the works though. Rubicon works better for my needs, but I do love the hood the Mojave gets!
I traded my 2013 Dodge Journey AWD for the Gladiator. I got spoiled with the Uconnect 8.4" system, heated seats and steering wheel. Those were absolute must haves for any vehicle I considered. Select Trac would be nice, though. I still have my 95 Grand Cherokee with Select Trac, and agree, that is left in Full Time there most of the winter. The old Jeep is due for some suspension upgrades soon and bigger tires, it sits on 3" lift and 31s at present. It has served well for the last 17 years and is go to live on in it's retirement years as more toy than daily...
For comparison. I bought a 2002 Ford F150 4x2 in 2002. I still have this truck. It has a 6500 lb tow max. And weighs 500 pounds LESS than my JT Rubicon. But is a much roomier cab and smoother ride. A friend says it's more like a car, but for BIG people... Both trucks get similar mileage. I have about 165,000 miles on that old truck.
You are the ONLY person I've seen discuss Selec Trac full time 4WD (19/20 minutes into vid). Even the limited slip are overlooked by dealers as far as ordering. You go out there and MOST (the large majority) of them on the lots do NOT. And No, the full time 4WD auto is what's on Ram 1500's. I do see how its referenced on the shifter. I've had all the 4WD systems on my trucks including your basic 4WD like most Gladiators, limited slip added and finally the "full time 4WD." I first figured this out with a 2007 Subaru that has full time 4WD built into the design AND limited slip as an option. It was awesome.
For Montana where you are definitely going to get six weeks or more of partially snowed over, slushy roads, full time 4WD (selec trac) makes life substantially easier while not detracting much at all from your core 4WD capabilities. Dealers don't order it, or even limited slip surprisingly and most consumers don't have a clue honestly. As you alluded to, consumers buy a 4WD and think hey! I got it all and if you mention binding, they are like what are you talking about? In fact, IF you order, you have to pay attention to make sure you do order it.
Go try to find it on the Jeep Build webpages... Not there... You gotta be sitting there with a knowledgeable sales rep while you are ordering it to make sure you get both the limited slip and the Selec Trac. I found a dealer out west who had limited slip on ALL of his Gladiators and Selec Trac on most of them (Rubicons have different name for it). But for my dealer, I asked him (sales manager who ordered them) and he made it clear to me that HE got it. He understood and he also knew his customers and that they didn't understand the distinctions when in fact they NEEDED to and limited slip at least was warranted always and selec trac if you can get it. I'd much rather have limited slip for 795 than that stupid speaker thing behind the seats for 595. First snowfall, like you described will learn you that lesson. Of course while you are stuck in the ditch, I guess you could get the speaker thing out and play with it.
I agree with you on the limited slip & Selec-Trac, ordered my JLU with both options. There are alot of times that I don't need to shift into 4WD from a stand still because of the limited slip.
I think I am going back to basic bare bone sport with max tow.We can build it up the way I want it.
mulling over these same options myself. The Sport S seems to be the trim all the dealers want to upfit w/crazy cost upgrades so they are almost impossible to find in my area without all that stuff. The Rubicon seems to be the most off road capable. While this is good, I don't know that I would be doing the extreme type wheeling that trim would be best for. Therefore, I kind of think the Mojave is the best one too but can't seem to find one with as big a discount as the other 2 in the previous years models (2022). The search continues.
Fact , dealership up the street has had the same gladiator sports s on the lot going on 63 days and it’s barley loaded and asking 48k with a soft top …
And I got a loaded 60,800K MSRP Freedom Edition for 30% off MSRP here in Dec 2023. Final cost like 42 and change@@ismileatdeath27
One thing about the sport s max tow though is the payload. Hundreds of pounds more than the rubi/Mojave. Makes a big difference in terms of legal towing. I think the springs must also be stiffer than the other models. Cool vid tho and nice jeep!
I love my Mojave, best mall crawler.
My Mo-chine- the selection was based on it's color- I had no Idea I picked the perfect jeep for me... Desert rated was a trim never created before- it must have been just for me.
I had a Mojave and all 4 shocks (fox shocks) failed under warranty so I traded it in for a different vehicle as it was junk
What is the most basic diesel model? I want to build it from basic.
Super helpful video!
So question. I doubt anybody will answer this. But if I took a willies put a small lift, 33 inch tires on it and Fox shocks, do I have a Mojave now?
Not quite, you still don't have the wider versions of the Dana 44's that come on Max Tow, Rubicon, Mojave. You don't have rear locker, cast iron turn knuckles, extra frame gussets, the factory front skid plate, the Mojave hood, etc etc
When you do local recoveries in snow do people offer to pay you? Just curious. A guy pulled me out of a snow drift a while back. I just thanked him, didn't know if it was customary to offer a tip or something.
I've had people offer to throw me a couple bucks, but I usually don't accept it. Where i am it's pretty rural, helping people out like that is a courtesy and it's usually someone you know. I don't expect anything and i don't think they expect to pay anything. I also do volunteer recoveries through offroadportal.org/. absolutely no one expects payment for those services
@@Burns_Garage cool I'll look into offroadportal. I have a Tacoma equipped for snow recoveries. I carry gear but never found anyone needing a pull. Thanks for the reply.
@@daft4682 yeah, one of the reasons I like doing them through off-road portal is because there's a liability waiver that you're covered by. When I'm doing recoveries for folks I don't know (ie: come across someone in a ditch on my way home from work) I'll usually have them submit the request on off road recovery portal just to be covered... last thing I want is some crazy person trying to sue me because I damaged their vehicle haha
I don’t really trust those numbers for towing but then again you are well within the vehicle capabilities, I tow a 40 ft camper of about 6500 pounds with my F150 , just bought it and unplanned but needed I bought the same trim and same color as yours Gladiator, will not be using that to pull my trailer as it will definitely max it out. You are pulling less weight than what the trailer weighs sitting still on a scale or else ho do you explain a single person being able to push a train car? Clearly much heavier than a small trailer….
Check the insurance cost first before buying one of these!
Is there a big difference??
high altitude
Audio sux
Was my wife's first comment too hahaha, got some better stuff coming to record with, hopefully it gets better
@@Burns_Garage Your truck makes up for it. 👍