The kinetic energy and light are not going to magically escape the room so they are also going to turn into heat, so don't worry about fans or fancy lights :D
I love your channel! Glad to see you also watch LTT. New idea, press some old PC monitors/keyboards/peripherals that are essentially worthless now! Go thrifting for some stuff to crush!
College dorm and rented apartment has literally no heat during -10C/0F degrees winters. I run 2 AAA games at the same time on my 6700K + 980Ti + 32Gb ram to heat up the room. It actually works.
@@jamesbearpark3794 I have 32 GB also but just a GTX 960. I got my ram cheap on eBay from some place and it has worked flawlessly for years now. I would have bought more if my motherboard could address it. Imagine if our ram was not limited by anything other than CPU architecture. 64 bits can support an amazing amount of ram potentially. More than you will ever need for the next couple years anyhow.
4 - Grasp that they are desperate for content and have a limited budget. Most computer equipment they use is provided by advertisers, but no radiator company is going to sponsor them. As with whole house water cooling and fridge in a PC, it's likely to fail because no fridge was donated etc...
Having worked with copper pipes in fire suppression systems before, I can confirm that color is entirely normal and flushing it out will only do the trick for a short while - the sitting water in the pipe will get discolored again
I used to have burn marks on my leg from the exhaust of my Lenovo laptop I was using for gaming... It had the exhaust right in the top left corner of the laptop base, would get hella hot.
@п yeah mine had a bit more powerful i5 in it so I could game, but that ran hot af. I should open it up and clean out again now, probably needs it bad.
I used to work in a low budget 3D animation production studio. We would have 6 workstations and 5 more rendering nodes in a pretty tiny room. We never had to turn on the heating even during sub-zero temperatures in winter. In these conditions, it was a bill saver :D
What's the point of the radiator? Wouldn't air cooling work just as well for this test? The energy/heat is still going to be dissipated into the room. All the radiator would be doing is giving it a middle-man.
The fan increases the rate of heat transfer so a fan would actually emit heat faster. Essentially the radiator is never going to be hot enough to burn your hand- it will be relatively tepid so it will basically heat your room the same as a small isolated ejection of air.
No, it really doens't. It's the same wattage. It will increase the surface area but decrease the ΔT. So there is no difference whatsoever. It's absolutely pointless
The point of the radiator is to have a larger scale water cooler. This is in order for the gpu to work at is Max potential. The air cooling would theoretically result in the same room net heat, but you are not taking into consideration that the gpu and cpu have protection mechanisms that make them turn down their power if they are too hot themselves. Air cooling would result in a lot of very hot air still lingering inside the case which would in turn slow down the system in turn not producing as much heat as it could have over time. By adding all that mass of water and make it flow around all that surface they are quickly distributing the heat produced by the system, by keeping the system warm instead of having a super hot case slowly dissipating into the room they can let it work at full force without stopping thus producing as much heat as it possibly can
I don't see why the big radiator was necessary at all. The heat output of the system would have been the same on air cooling or just a regular PC radiator. I guess a better cooler would have allowed the system to dissipate more heat faster and therefore run at higher clocks without throttling. But a regular water-cooling loop would have done a better job at that than a big rusty passive radiator.
The size of the cooler does matter for a lot of reasons. That's why they make different sizes. This thing isn't great because for all it's mass, it doesn't have much surface area. That's why it was so hot when he touched it.
Has quite a bit of surface area, lacks the density / compactness of typical radiators but the entire things meant to soak heat from water and radiate it into the room. Obviously it doesn't magically multiply the heat and for as hot as gpus n such get it's still going to put out the same max heat regardless what it's cooled with.
I would have preferred they just used aftermarket air fans on the graphics card and cpu would have worked just as good and been much faster to heat up the room
This is a game changer for Canada. -"How do you keep your house warm in winter? Wood stove? Natural gas? Furnace? Baseboard heater?" -"No. I game." On a side note, anything consuming wattage, is a heater. Some more efficient than others, but also more boring. If you work from home, online, then using a pc to heat an area actually pays for its self.
If one really wanted to one could even put the radiator outside. Fill the lines with coolant, and game with everything over clocked. Having the coolant run at a nice and steady -20c/-30c in the dead of winter. Dealing with the condensation is another matter though...the board would have to have a coating on it if the condensation became a problem.
Anything electrical is equally 99.999% efficient at heating. Every watt that comes into the room and doesn't go out the window as a photon is a watt that stays and heats the room. Maybe exactly lightbulbs are less efficient.
How did your cousin die again Pete? Pete: He was a gamer, and thought the PC would keep hm warm. In Canada? You sure he wasn't from Georgia or something? Oh and if you want to chill the PC to -20ish and it's -20ish outside... put the PC outside.
@@OriginalHulkLP his excuse is that the energy produced would be kinetic instead of thermal. He forgot that it would soon become kinetic once outside the PC. Also, a giant radiator makes for a good show.
I once lived in a college dorm where I couldn't adjust the heating and it was too cold inside when it was -30°C or colder outside. Solved this by turning on 4 game consoles, a TV, and folding@home on my GPU.
i think they could do it better. especially with the additional resources compared to back then
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New 10th generation Intel CPUs will make important contributions to the heating of your home. Choose Intel, heat the whole house with high TDP and inefficient 14nm++++ architecture! :)
Hey man, at least they are cheap now and available because no one wants them, also they still aren’t slow, at least the higher ones, no new higher end processor is slow now
Nice cooling system but it won't make any difference with heating. You'd get the same results even by just using a passive heatsink on the gpu. The only thing that matters is the power that's being dissipated. If you use a radiator you'll have a lot of mass at lower temperature and if you just use the stock heatsink, you'll have lower mass at higher temperature (of course assuming that the gpu wouldn't have lowered its performance due to overheating). In other words: for the purpose of heating, this system is a waste of space but it will however, help keep the gpu cool and running at a high frame rate.
Yes I thought the same. As long as it does not thermal throttle the same amount of heat should need to be let out into the surrounding room, since it ideally a closed system.
It well take a longer time to rise in temp, but you now have a stored mass of heat, this is like having a rocket mass heater. A small heat sink well dump the heat as soon as it picks it up, were as what linus setup well take some time to equalize across it's mass. then it will slowly and evenly across it's mass radiate that heat back into the room. The right way to test this would have been to measure time to target temp from base temp, then back down from target temp to base temp, seeing how long each system held target temp. As anyone who as ever owned a modern pc knows that are heat pumps lol.
By the way, "light energy" ends up as heat when absorbed (not necesseraly in your room though but mostly) and thermal energy is basically kinetic energy on the microscopic level (giggling molecules)
We picked it up from a dumpyard and make it the happiest radiatior in the world. Finally came to the place it deserved throughout life, it is a hi-tech heater now! (You must be proud of it.)
Actually... actually... >Buy a multi family house and rent out the apartments >rip out the water boiler. >replace with a substantial mining rig >profit
Got a Dell server with 2 X5355 Xeons a few years ago, powered it on, left it in the computer room of our house, brother and dad were going to lynch me for putting an effective space heater in the only room in the house without AC during a Midwest US summer
@@NoorquackerInd , The beauty about hydronic ( water) heating is with a couple of 3-way values you could have a "summer" external rad plumbed to elsewhere... a secondary water heater coil or outside...thus just cooling the PC
All the budget and none of the science, not gonna lie it's a bit frustrating he refuses to research anything before videos... or just retarded shit like using an old gunky radiator.
I think there is more background research than he let's on. When he had problems he occasionally talks about using tech support, forums, etc. But I think he's like a lot of us who try stuff first and then figure out the right way after a couple attempts.
I live in Maine and every server room I've ever seen around here (3 of 3 all different companies), filters the heat from the servers to the rest of the building during the winter.
I used to use my original PC as a room heater at night by programming in basic a math equation to solve in a loop and it would run all night heating my bedroom.
It is actually a good idea, to use the generated heat for something purposeful. Few weeks ago, i saw a video from Matpat (from "Game theory") on his new channel "Food theory". talking about the KFC PC. Yes .... KFC apparently is developing a PC & you can warm your food with it. At first, it sounds like a scam. But as we have seen, it is a truly good idea. Lets see if in the future, the industry makes use of this.
why not just buy a heater and save a bunch of money? I get using the heat if you are using the PC anyway but making it run just for a heater is incredibly stupid. The cost is way higher than buying a heater and the wear on the PC parts makes it even less feasible.
Air's kinetic energy is also dissipated into heat due to friction. Air-to-air friction, that is. So it doesn't really matter how much fans you have - it will end as heat anyways
Yes... If you know anything about physics you'd know that any use of energy will eventually be converted into thermal energy, thus heat. Your fans will lose energy from friction which heats the roam, the RGB lighting will eventually be absorbed by something in your room, slightly warming that object.
I was looking for this comment for too damn long, this should be higher in the comments. The air is moving and therefore it has kinetic energy. But it stops moving (you can't feel the air from the fans from a distance) due to air friction. It loses it's kinetic energy and (first law of thermodynamics) that energy causes the molecules in the air to heat up themselves. Moving air slows down because of friction and friction increases temperature.
Yes, any fan will ultimately heat up the room. Fans are used to mix air for better uniformity, or help your sweat evaporate faster, not to cool a room.
lucas rem That’s a pizza oven not a warmer. A pizza warmer is basically just a food warmer used by restaurants and caterers. Samcrac’s Dominos DXP Car is a good example of a pizza warmer.
Chris Bautista that is what he wamt man. He played overnight so he had to order shipping pizza. And when it cold out. The energy can heat it up or warm it up
Why even use the old heater the PC with a normal rad would output just as much heat! That way you also wouldn't have to wait so long for the water to heat up!!!
Moreover, it's better to use old hardware for such project, for instance you can overclock a lot of ancient CPUs to consume around 130 Watts. Also you could scrap all the "energy efficient" lightbulbs and use many low powered incandescent ones if you plan to use electric (infrared or convection) heaters. It's actually much better for the environment to use cheaper bulbs (in terms of build and recycling price and thus ecological impact) in this particular scenario. I set up a mining rig as a heater in winter made from the obsolete hardware just for lulz. Though the noise was rather uncomfortable, so I stopped it within a week.
heresy we are not americans in the sense of United States of America americans. you must be european to reference the whole hemisphere as america Almost nobody as least in North America would reference it so
I feel like just by the data you guys used, use a brand new fresh radiator, this could actually possibly be viable. I hope they revisit the idea soon with different test vectors like a small room vs a regular size room (700 sq ft or 65 sq meters) and maybe have a test where the PC isn't in the same room as the radiator and see what that does to temps. PC wise and radiator room wise.
Literally doesn’t even matter your cooling choice, if you’re not throttling. If you’re not throttling, a watt is a watt is a watt and it’ll dissipate the same energy no matter how
your pc is doing the exact same thing as the abomination they built only more efficient the radiator is an unneccessary step to icrease entertainment value
Not having a radiator means that the temps would be more heterogeneous in the room. More heat would be concentrated at the pc, meaning higher cpu and gpu temps, which could result in thermal throttling and therefore a smaller power output.
W Bond You underestimate the heating power of amd cards. They say amd cards are used to heat the pumps of geothermal generator when earth is not hot enough.
yes and no. Using this method, you COULD heat a different room instead of your room which could be useful. And while it takes longer for their method to get started, it would in effect keep heating for a long time after the gaming session is ended.
The third law of thermodynamics disagree's with you. The rate at which the room heats would be slower yes but total heat generated would still be the same. So in actual fact, you lose useful heat by adding extra mass to the equation. The extra mass absorbs some of the heat. Therefore, using standard heatsinks is more effective, regardless of "longer time after gaming". You'd still be better off without it
I feel sad for the physics teacher who now watches this vid without any new information. Your teacher should ask your class to write what they did wrong/right in this experiment.
@@horatio3852 It's definitely more boring. However, no matter what it is, n watts of energy going in will always have n watts of energy coming out. Conservation of energy. But if you do think about it, a huge radiator is kinda impractical.
Hi @Erotikstudio Winkler GmbH. That radiator will keep your toes warm even if your face is being blasted by an Arctic gale, and it'll continue to radiate it's stored heat long after the PC is switched off right? Question why that's the case and you'll understand the flaws in your argument.
@@sndgrpr6633 No, the reason it will do that is because of the thermal soak. If you turn off the PC it will continue to release the heat it stored up during the phase when it wasn't heating the room much on their graph. The same amount of heat is released into the room once the water in the radiator is up to temp. The reason it will continue to heat once the PC is switched off is the same reason it isn't working when you first turn it on, and this is why they're used in heating old houses. Your furnace burns for a while, and heats up the water flowing through the radiators in your house, and then turns off. The radiators the radiate the extra heat stored in the water. Once the temperature in your house gets low enough the heater turns back on, and heats the water back up. The radiators only job is to store heat, it will not increase the temperature of the room compared to running the PC with no radiator.
@@enddy123456 No, the reason it will do that has to do with the piece of the puzzle you've managed to talk around - the rate at which the radiator _releases_ heat (you know, the actual job of that radiator). It's that which primarily distinguishes room heater type radiators from other types of heat dissipation systems (including other types of radiators,) and if you had a better grasp of why it's important you might understand why "it will not increase the temperature of the room compared to running the PC with no radiator" is either an incomplete statement or just plain wrong.
Ha, I actually kind of do this. I have a 9x120 rad I put in the window during the winter months and tie into my loop. Mainly so my computer room stays cool, but def helps cpu and gpu temps. Specs: Windows 10 i7 5960x OC @4.5GHz 3x Titan Black OC (+180 GPU / +300 MEM) G.Skill 64GB RAM @ 2400MHz Rampage V Extreme MOBO Intel 600P 512GB M.2 PCI (OS)(Some games) 4x Intel 730 256GB Raid 0 (Game) 2x Crucial M4 128GB (Media) 2X WD Red 4TB (Media) (Backup) Asus ROG Swift PG279Q 2k 166Hz (Main) 2x Asus PB287Q 4k 60Hz (Sides) Corsair 900D case Corsair 1200i PSU Cooling: Two loops (Custom loops) CPU & mosfet: (140 Rad Pull) & (480 Rad push/pull) GPU's (360 & 480/ Push & pull) Basement install
@@linkthehero1234 I made a Ryzen 5 3600 build with the stock cooler and stock thermal paste. The stock paste is garbage, but when i replaced it to Kryonaut by Grizzly I managed to not overheat it (stock paste about 105 degrees Celsius, Kryonaut 90 (that is the upper recomanded limit))
Fun for a joke vid, but you do realize that it doesn't matter whether you're using an old heater radiator or not. The PC outputs exactly the same power, and if that power is fully dissipated, then it heats the air, and if not, your PC will quickly overheat. It won't output more heat if you use a bigger radiator because thermodynamics. Bigger radiator doesn't add any energy.
Yep - nonsense video. You are still using the same amount of energy if you turn off your heater and play a game on your PC instead. It's like saying you can save energy by using a different 500w heater to the 500w heater you normally use.
I totally agree with you. If anything the extra water needed to fill the stupid radiator made it take longer for the room to heat up. Plus, the space heater looses energy to light too as the coils start to glow, but maybe that energy is regained as it bounced around, I don't know. But you get a lot more use out of a PC. Way more efficient.
Ok but wouldn`t the big radiator spread the heat more efficiently? Instead of small fans blowing the heat right against the wall behind the pc or up against the desk?
The only reason why we use this type of radiator in our houses is because we don't have fans on them and don't need the extreme performance of a car or PC radiator.
Yeah. They could have picked up a brand new, small aluminum (low thermal mass) Honda or Toyota radiator for less than $100 bucks and gotten a clean test. Maybe even a cheap electric fan for it.
You didn’t even need to do that because the amount of energy isn’t being changed. You’ll heat the room just the same running it normally without an old beat up hunk
The furnace went out in my family's house as a kid and in the interim my brother and I used a couple of Prescott P4 Dell towers to heat our room. On a cold night (for the south, 25-30 F or so) the room didn't drop below 75* F. Can confirm, heating with PC works.
I actually did use my gaming PC to keep me warm through one cold winter's night when our gas unexpectedly ran out and I was too broke to go out and buy an electric space heater. So instead, I fired up Crisis, moved the tower closer to my bed, and just let the game idle all night. It certainly worked. My room wasn't 'warm', but it was certainly warmer than the rest of our little bachelor pad lol
All the energy your PC uses ends up as heat in your room. The kinetic energy of the coolers is passed on to the moving air which will absorb it through friction in the air. Also the led lights will reflect on walls multiple times until it is turning to heat. So the only energy not absorbed into your room, is the little bit of light which goes through the window. But we all know you only game in the window less basement of your parents never showering ^^, so everything goes into your room :D. Besides you need at least 20 LEDs per Watt, so its energy is nelegible any way.
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Something worth noting is that the kinetic energy from fans will eventually fizzle out as heat due to friction. The light from the RGB lighting will also be absorbed in the room and turn to heat. That means, aside from any light from the computer that may leave the room through a window, pretty much every watt will eventually be turned into heat inside your room. You don't even need a radiator for it, and as you concluded in the video, all it does is add thermal mass and slow down the heating process
*YOU GUYS LAUGH* But I do use my PC as a space heater in the winter... I live in AZ, so the temps are a bit milder. HOWEVER, my PC does make my room toasty in the summer... EVEN WITH THE FRICKIN AC UNIT IN THE ROOM CRANKED UP. (FML, I need a new house.)
I live in AZ as well and have for years used my ps3 for a space heater. In fact last fall I could not figure out why game room was so hot for like 3 weeks strait until I discovered the ps3 had been on for an unknown amount of time. I can only assume a dog laid/stepped on the ps3 remote.
Honestly i thought about something similar when i lived in North Dakota where from between November and march the highs are just above freezing and the lows where as far as -40 with entire days never even getting above 0. So if you have a large Rad filled with something that won't freeze (from what i heard Antifreeze for cars is not a good idea) and put it outside i imagine you could get some pretty low temps in your pc.
Would've been interesting to compare with how much time the computer takes to heat the room without the radiator thought. Because cast iron is used to accumulate heat while aluminium is more conductive.
Even the kinetic energy turns into heat (from friction), and the lights too (assuming the photons don't escape out a window) get turned knto heat as they eventually get absorbed into a material. Cant escape entropy baby.
Yeah, when I saw the thumbnail, I thought they would connect it to the main system. Though as we saw here -- it'd require extensive filtration. But pumping is already handled. That's what I would really like to see.
1:10 Not only part of the energy is converted to heat All of it (almost) The light of your RGB hits your walls and gets absorbed (creating heat) The fans blow air which hits your case and other air particles (boom, heat again) The only energy that might get lost, is the light that makes it out of your room, thus not creating heat inside. I just wanted to make it clear how much heat we produce
Back in my college dorm days our rooms didn't have heaters so I improvised and had my PC set to mine crypto overnight. I earned money and substantially heated up my room at the same time, only gripe was the loud fan speed but that was bearable.
By putting in a buttload of metal and god knows how much water to heat up as well? If you want quick change of room temperature, why would you wanna spend time heating up more water and metal than needed before venting it to the air?
The reason was so that there were *no* fans at all. No need to fan cool a radiator that large. I really liked the idea of using it, but for this test it wasn't good. A regular water setup or even air setup would have been fine. The fans actually do generate heat via air friction so it would be the same result with much less of a warm up time.
And yet they use a bloody big pump to run it. That thing would probably be enough for a circuit of a whole house with many rads. Also 7980XE would draw more power.
Could you have some kind of countercurrent system? Have one system of tubing that only connects to the PC, a second loop that only connects to the radiator, and somehow allow them to dissipate heat from one to the other. This is actually how more modern nuclear reactors send heat from the fuel rods to the turbines, since it cuts down on the amount of water that has kept under extreme pressures making the system cheaper and safer.
A heat exchanger to keep the transfer fluids separate would be pointless? Aside from stopping the dissimilar metal problems, the shmoo out of the small galleries that blocked up, and the ability to have two different flow rates to optimise the heat transference.... yeah.
This is the second time I've watched this and the way Linus dramatically says "Our graphics card is thermal throttling" (7:09) still fucking floored me.
My PC heats my room just fine even with out all of this fancy stuff. When I first got a PC, I had to pick up a portable A.C. unit because it would turn into a sauna in here. In the winter its nice, but any other season it sucks
My poor R5 lol. I need to get that threadripper money first haha. Maybe from my next shoot if the pay out is big enough 👀 Kinda wanna wait to see what intel does though 🙊
Yeah, just a few videos ago he said about a Titan X something like "don't worry, it's there just so I have a display output." Using a mothertrucking Titan X "JUST for display output". Fuck me.
Shantanu Varma Piping it out the wall won't be difficult if you can do this. Then make sure it's shady and ambient at least in the U.K. won't get above 30. Or burry it underground for a constant 2-12 C ground temp all year round. Same principle as ground source heat pump.
I was about to protest because he didn’t have a beard, then I look at the timeline when this was made and this video was made a year ago. No protest Needed, personal preference crisis averted.
Starts the video by quoting the first law of thermodynamics. Continues to build an overcomplicated solution. If you'd just put the computer with a normal cooler in it, water or air, the result would've been the exact same.
Septimius ikr, so much face palm in this one. Which is fine, it just needed a quick explanation as to why it was entirely pointless at the end just so everyone's clear why it was.
Yeah! LTT should have just tried to do it the least interesting way possible to maximize the entertainment value! We watch LTT to see the peak of efficiency not a bunch of dumb stuff that no one would ever do! grabs pitchfork We hate fun! We hate fun! We hate fun!
The results would actually have been better; you would have eliminated the lag. That is because you would not have had to heat the large amount of water in that massive radiator. But where is the fun in that... XD
I like how he says they don't want to 'generate any more kinetic energy than they absolutely have to'. I guess that's why he calls it college dropout physics. Because any kinetic enenergy that isn't used to drive mass out of your system (room) and isn't stored as potential energy must end up as heat eventually. In that sense, a ceiling fan is a (low power) space heater.
That's a very good point. I hadn't thought of that. My comment was more to show that you can't heat stuff up more with the same amount of energy. If the system draws more power, then it'll create more heat. I just wish to combat the idea that radiators somehow heat things up "better" or uses less power, by having water or oil it heats up.
In my country the weather is usually hot (about 30-38 degree c) but in winter the temp goes down up to 10-15" celcius which probably isn't very cold but to us it is. So in winter I reverse the fans in my pc so that the hot air comes out of the front and face the pc front (it has a mesh grill in the front ) side towards me and that gives me a warm breeze while gaming also I am rocking an i5 6400 and rx480
oof in my place we have 2 gameing pc's and a ps4 running in the living room almost constantly, never got cold durring winter but now were dying in spring XD
Me and My roomie each had overclocked water cooled PCs in a 2 bedroom apartment about 1000sqft, we had to walk around in our underwear when it was above -20c out (canadians) if we were both gaming or gaming together. never EVER did we turn on a heater lol. so basically windows open ALL WINTER and summer we had to double air condition the livingroom haha.
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winter is coming, time to overclock
Shiinon Dogewalker Legit, this is what I did XD
Crack you window and the cold air flows down the wall on top the pc. Then room stays 70*
Shiinon Dogewalker LMAO SO UDERATED!
It would be a fun thing to do any play your favorite games while sipping a hot beverage of your choice.
You joke but that was my 295x2 quad sli FX-9000 system. I had dual power supplies.
Do it again but with a brand new radiator! COME ON THIS IS LTT!
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@@Motishay reddtube?
Not necessarily a new one, just a clean one. They should had deconstruct it piece by piece, then clean it.
do it!
Nigel lol 😂
The kinetic energy and light are not going to magically escape the room so they are also going to turn into heat, so don't worry about fans or fancy lights :D
You watch Linus? I never seen you press anything pc related. Maybe you should? Lol
Oh haider.
Hydraulic Press Channel Linus lausu saunan oikein
+ the moving water has also some kinetic energy ;)
I love your channel! Glad to see you also watch LTT. New idea, press some old PC monitors/keyboards/peripherals that are essentially worthless now! Go thrifting for some stuff to crush!
“We discovered a minor leak”
“This is a substantial leak”
College dorm and rented apartment has literally no heat during -10C/0F degrees winters. I run 2 AAA games at the same time on my 6700K + 980Ti + 32Gb ram to heat up the room. It actually works.
Weird flex but ok
That's a really odd config. 32gb ram but only a 980ti?
James Bearpark not very balanced
@@jamesbearpark3794 I have 32 GB also but just a GTX 960. I got my ram cheap on eBay from some place and it has worked flawlessly for years now. I would have bought more if my motherboard could address it. Imagine if our ram was not limited by anything other than CPU architecture. 64 bits can support an amazing amount of ram potentially. More than you will ever need for the next couple years anyhow.
@Mugen00 yeah not everyone always wants to upgrade their gpu when it still works great
Dad! I'm cold, can we run DOOM??
Can we run Crysis?
Son, it's the coldest winter of the last decade... we're going to need to run Red Dead Redemption 2 on PC maxed out at 4k.
unocualqu1era thats just a death wish dont do it...
@@Zkako1151 He's gonna burn his house down.
Na son chrome warms you faster
lessons learned?
1 - buy a new radiator instead of stealing it from a neighbor
2 - never wear socks with sandals
3 - use thermocouple instead of running the water through the dirty radiator.
4 - Grasp that they are desperate for content and have a limited budget. Most computer equipment they use is provided by advertisers, but no radiator company is going to sponsor them. As with whole house water cooling and fridge in a PC, it's likely to fail because no fridge was donated etc...
lol
5. Necromancy still isn't illegal
And there's 1k likes
Having worked with copper pipes in fire suppression systems before, I can confirm that color is entirely normal and flushing it out will only do the trick for a short while - the sitting water in the pipe will get discolored again
Poor man's way of doing it: just game with your laptop directly on your lap. Instead of heating the room, heat yourself directly. ;)
I used to have burn marks on my leg from the exhaust of my Lenovo laptop I was using for gaming...
It had the exhaust right in the top left corner of the laptop base, would get hella hot.
@п yeah mine had a bit more powerful i5 in it so I could game, but that ran hot af. I should open it up and clean out again now, probably needs it bad.
Not good for ur testicles holmies.
@@AtheismF7W it is if you don't want to have kids.
@@Doobernator A wonderful secondary bonus.
4:29, man I hate minor substantial leaks...
TrollFaceTheMan yes
I used to work in a low budget 3D animation production studio. We would have 6 workstations and 5 more rendering nodes in a pretty tiny room. We never had to turn on the heating even during sub-zero temperatures in winter. In these conditions, it was a bill saver :D
Alfred Tsaizer that's one way to use render farms lol
This is why the thought of buying a small house or small warehouse in Alaska keeps passing through my mind every summer night.
Facebook houses servers in Luleå sweden, that not the warmest place, using the cold.
What happen in summer then?
Then they cool it but they may save some cold from winter for a while.
I heated my room last year, in Philadelphia pa, WITH ONLY my pc, (furnace was broken). Comfy.
Ay philly gang
When you have a blowymatron vega so you turn your pc to blow a hot jet of air on your feet
Run seus ptgi shaders for MC on a potato
Simple
Ah yes run the simulation software 24/7
@@brytonmassie Folding at home. :)
What's the point of the radiator? Wouldn't air cooling work just as well for this test? The energy/heat is still going to be dissipated into the room.
All the radiator would be doing is giving it a middle-man.
@Rozar Natrim no
The fan increases the rate of heat transfer so a fan would actually emit heat faster. Essentially the radiator is never going to be hot enough to burn your hand- it will be relatively tepid so it will basically heat your room the same as a small isolated ejection of air.
No, it really doens't. It's the same wattage. It will increase the surface area but decrease the ΔT. So there is no difference whatsoever. It's absolutely pointless
The only benefit from radiator is that it retains the heat energy in the coolant for a while after shutting your pc.
The point of the radiator is to have a larger scale water cooler. This is in order for the gpu to work at is Max potential. The air cooling would theoretically result in the same room net heat, but you are not taking into consideration that the gpu and cpu have protection mechanisms that make them turn down their power if they are too hot themselves. Air cooling would result in a lot of very hot air still lingering inside the case which would in turn slow down the system in turn not producing as much heat as it could have over time. By adding all that mass of water and make it flow around all that surface they are quickly distributing the heat produced by the system, by keeping the system warm instead of having a super hot case slowly dissipating into the room they can let it work at full force without stopping thus producing as much heat as it possibly can
I don't see why the big radiator was necessary at all. The heat output of the system would have been the same on air cooling or just a regular PC radiator.
I guess a better cooler would have allowed the system to dissipate more heat faster and therefore run at higher clocks without throttling. But a regular water-cooling loop would have done a better job at that than a big rusty passive radiator.
It's LTT. They don't do normal.
To heat his room Goddamit.
The size of the cooler does matter for a lot of reasons. That's why they make different sizes. This thing isn't great because for all it's mass, it doesn't have much surface area. That's why it was so hot when he touched it.
Has quite a bit of surface area, lacks the density / compactness of typical radiators but the entire things meant to soak heat from water and radiate it into the room. Obviously it doesn't magically multiply the heat and for as hot as gpus n such get it's still going to put out the same max heat regardless what it's cooled with.
I would have preferred they just used aftermarket air fans on the graphics card and cpu would have worked just as good and been much faster to heat up the room
This is a game changer for Canada.
-"How do you keep your house warm in winter? Wood stove? Natural gas? Furnace? Baseboard heater?"
-"No. I game."
On a side note, anything consuming wattage, is a heater. Some more efficient than others, but also more boring. If you work from home, online, then using a pc to heat an area actually pays for its self.
If one really wanted to one could even put the radiator outside. Fill the lines with coolant, and game with everything over clocked. Having the coolant run at a nice and steady -20c/-30c in the dead of winter. Dealing with the condensation is another matter though...the board would have to have a coating on it if the condensation became a problem.
I wonder if a clear plastidip would do the trick.
Anything electrical is equally 99.999% efficient at heating. Every watt that comes into the room and doesn't go out the window as a photon is a watt that stays and heats the room. Maybe exactly lightbulbs are less efficient.
How did your cousin die again Pete?
Pete: He was a gamer, and thought the PC would keep hm warm.
In Canada? You sure he wasn't from Georgia or something?
Oh and if you want to chill the PC to -20ish and it's -20ish outside... put the PC outside.
@@TexMex421 Just fill your room with cryptocurrency miners, you'll be fine
"Can you heat your room with your GPU"
"Yes. You literally already do. There's no reason to build connect a giant radiator for that to happen."
I mean. Yeah. Why the heater if you got fans that shoot hot/warm air out and heat your room
@@OriginalHulkLP his excuse is that the energy produced would be kinetic instead of thermal. He forgot that it would soon become kinetic once outside the PC. Also, a giant radiator makes for a good show.
The only practical is to make tea
This.
@@sheeplord4976
??????????????????
That's not how heat works
The hot air dissipates and heats the room
Heating a room in the summer. Perfect timing.
i was gonna comment the same thing
What about the souther hemisphere?
Linus obviously looking out for our southern hemisphere brethren. Good guy Linus looking out for the NZ's.
video was prob made 3 months ago lol
Typical northerner, thinking the world ends at the equator
I once lived in a college dorm where I couldn't adjust the heating and it was too cold inside when it was -30°C or colder outside. Solved this by turning on 4 game consoles, a TV, and folding@home on my GPU.
something1random23 I gpu mined cuase it was 2015-2016 and electricity was free.
lol that sounds like a real deal, "Free Energy"
You could have just bought a small electric heater.
Electric heaters are expensive to run
Ten Yuu Kusuhara and a computer isn't?
Whole Room Watercooling 2! :D
More like 'Whole Room Waterheating' :D
Nick you started at 2013 WOW!
Didn't they already do that?
think that was a pizza heater?
i think they could do it better. especially with the additional resources compared to back then
New 10th generation Intel CPUs will make important contributions to the heating of your home. Choose Intel, heat the whole house with high TDP and inefficient 14nm++++ architecture! :)
Why, intel should leave the CPU business to AMD, and start turning a profit in the heater business
Aah. A real reason for Intel to exist!
Miraç Satıç yeah I know once it’s winter in Australia I’ll regret getting amd.
Hey man, at least they are cheap now and available because no one wants them, also they still aren’t slow, at least the higher ones, no new higher end processor is slow now
4:31 “we also detected a *minor* leak”
“iTs a PrEtTy SubStAntiAl LeAk!”
No comments weird
Nice cooling system but it won't make any difference with heating. You'd get the same results even by just using a passive heatsink on the gpu. The only thing that matters is the power that's being dissipated. If you use a radiator you'll have a lot of mass at lower temperature and if you just use the stock heatsink, you'll have lower mass at higher temperature (of course assuming that the gpu wouldn't have lowered its performance due to overheating). In other words: for the purpose of heating, this system is a waste of space but it will however, help keep the gpu cool and running at a high frame rate.
Yes I thought the same. As long as it does not thermal throttle the same amount of heat should need to be let out into the surrounding room, since it ideally a closed system.
It makes a big difference, as the surface area of the "heat sink" is way higher they way Linus did it, which results in faster heating.
it results in slower heating. it takes more time for a temperature change in more mass
Yeah, This experiment made no sense to me. I think a better test would have been the Computer being outside the room they were heating.
It well take a longer time to rise in temp, but you now have a stored mass of heat, this is like having a rocket mass heater. A small heat sink well dump the heat as soon as it picks it up, were as what linus setup well take some time to equalize across it's mass. then it will slowly and evenly across it's mass radiate that heat back into the room. The right way to test this would have been to measure time to target temp from base temp, then back down from target temp to base temp, seeing how long each system held target temp. As anyone who as ever owned a modern pc knows that are heat pumps lol.
PART 2 WITH BRAND NEW ALUMINUM RADIATOR so the gpu isnt thermal throttle and the setup is more efficient
By the way, "light energy" ends up as heat when absorbed (not necesseraly in your room though but mostly) and thermal energy is basically kinetic energy on the microscopic level (giggling molecules)
So u are the one who stole my radiator from behind my house
Your radiator is disgusting 😂😂😂
Nah man I had a screwdriver so I just said f it and went in your house to take it out
We picked it up from a dumpyard and make it the happiest radiatior in the world.
Finally came to the place it deserved throughout life, it is a hi-tech heater now!
(You must be proud of it.)
Hey im gonna get you radiator back i just need 50 bucks and exactly 6 eagle bullets
@@kehrbotrsupporter5097 what are the bullets for. asking for a friend
Works great if you use it for mining too. Profitable room heater lol
If you're in canada
That's what I did with my PC xD
O!Technology too bad mining is slowly becoming useless
Actually... actually...
>Buy a multi family house and rent out the apartments
>rip out the water boiler.
>replace with a substantial mining rig
>profit
zebrad R.I.P Free space heater
Step 1: By an old HP server
Step 2: Install two Xeon X5460's
Step 3: Never use your house's heater again :D
Got a Dell server with 2 X5355 Xeons a few years ago, powered it on, left it in the computer room of our house, brother and dad were going to lynch me for putting an effective space heater in the only room in the house without AC during a Midwest US summer
You won't be able to sleep it will be so loud.
@@ryantoomey611 unless you use passive cooling
@@NoorquackerInd , The beauty about hydronic ( water) heating is with a couple of 3-way values you could have a "summer" external rad plumbed to elsewhere... a secondary water heater coil or outside...thus just cooling the PC
just turn it to your feet normally it is warm enough...
"Yep, we did a thing... But why?"
Easily, 95% of RUclips.
Linus is becoming the new Mythbusters. 🤔
just a f*cked up version without proper physics...
All the budget and none of the science, not gonna lie it's a bit frustrating he refuses to research anything before videos... or just retarded shit like using an old gunky radiator.
Adam Savage do said that as long it have data, its science!
not surprise since he has to basically push out a video every single day. For that I must give him credit
I think there is more background research than he let's on. When he had problems he occasionally talks about using tech support, forums, etc.
But I think he's like a lot of us who try stuff first and then figure out the right way after a couple attempts.
Voiceover Linus: "We found a minor leak"
Real Linus: "That's a real substantial leak"
I live in Maine and every server room I've ever seen around here (3 of 3 all different companies), filters the heat from the servers to the rest of the building during the winter.
I used to use my original PC as a room heater at night by programming in basic a math equation to solve in a loop and it would run all night heating my bedroom.
It is actually a good idea, to use the generated heat for something purposeful.
Few weeks ago, i saw a video from Matpat (from "Game theory") on his new channel "Food theory". talking about the KFC PC.
Yes .... KFC apparently is developing a PC & you can warm your food with it. At first, it sounds like a scam. But as we have seen, it is a truly good idea.
Lets see if in the future, the industry makes use of this.
@@callmeTofuu KFConsole
Those winter miners really made a buck.
why not just buy a heater and save a bunch of money? I get using the heat if you are using the PC anyway but making it run just for a heater is incredibly stupid. The cost is way higher than buying a heater and the wear on the PC parts makes it even less feasible.
@@richbob9155 ew, logic
lol ive already got a heater, I use a pentium 4
I do you one better, I've got a Pentium D
I had the Presshot, that thing heated up any room.
I got a g i guess Pentium g4560 or is mine a d?
I use intel 2 core duo
I just turn on my fat xbox 360. it might get rrod soon though.
Oddly enough, I actually use my PC to heat my home. Doesn't work enough in the winter but it works too well in the summer
Annnnd let's put the pc on the hot radiator......that just burned our hand.....classic Linus
my hand
stalin: no
our hand
stalin: AYY
But, this is why we love Linus.
6:36 for a split second i literally thought my pc blue screened
*laughs in mobile*
you actually watch LTT vids in full screen?
@@CrimsonSax who in the world does watch yt videos without being on full screen lmao
@@mitsostechtips9047 youre joking right?
@@mitsostechtips9047 my phone lags a lot in full screen
Air's kinetic energy is also dissipated into heat due to friction. Air-to-air friction, that is. So it doesn't really matter how much fans you have - it will end as heat anyways
PerqTV ehm no
Yes... If you know anything about physics you'd know that any use of energy will eventually be converted into thermal energy, thus heat. Your fans will lose energy from friction which heats the roam, the RGB lighting will eventually be absorbed by something in your room, slightly warming that object.
I was looking for this comment for too damn long, this should be higher in the comments.
The air is moving and therefore it has kinetic energy. But it stops moving (you can't feel the air from the fans from a distance) due to air friction. It loses it's kinetic energy and (first law of thermodynamics) that energy causes the molecules in the air to heat up themselves.
Moving air slows down because of friction and friction increases temperature.
Yes, any fan will ultimately heat up the room. Fans are used to mix air for better uniformity, or help your sweat evaporate faster, not to cool a room.
Ehm, yes.
Since we are on the topic of using computers to heat things up: Still waiting on that pizza warmer build.
Aravanus Get a oldish AMD A10 APU
lucas rem That’s a pizza oven not a warmer. A pizza warmer is basically just a food warmer used by restaurants and caterers. Samcrac’s Dominos DXP Car is a good example of a pizza warmer.
Chris Bautista that is what he wamt man. He played overnight so he had to order shipping pizza. And when it cold out. The energy can heat it up or warm it up
Why even use the old heater the PC with a normal rad would output just as much heat! That way you also wouldn't have to wait so long for the water to heat up!!!
Ben Kuijers they also wouldn’t have that green goo around there
just american low iq
except they're Canadian....
Moreover, it's better to use old hardware for such project, for instance you can overclock a lot of ancient CPUs to consume around 130 Watts. Also you could scrap all the "energy efficient" lightbulbs and use many low powered incandescent ones if you plan to use electric (infrared or convection) heaters. It's actually much better for the environment to use cheaper bulbs (in terms of build and recycling price and thus ecological impact) in this particular scenario.
I set up a mining rig as a heater in winter made from the obsolete hardware just for lulz. Though the noise was rather uncomfortable, so I stopped it within a week.
heresy we are not americans in the sense of United States of America americans. you must be european to reference the whole hemisphere as america Almost nobody as least in North America would reference it so
I feel like just by the data you guys used, use a brand new fresh radiator, this could actually possibly be viable. I hope they revisit the idea soon with different test vectors like a small room vs a regular size room (700 sq ft or 65 sq meters) and maybe have a test where the PC isn't in the same room as the radiator and see what that does to temps. PC wise and radiator room wise.
That big radiator doesn't make any difference lmao, makes it slower if anything
if you just use the PC with a fan it would be quicker
Gotta make some drama and farm some views.
The big radiator will both heat up much slower and cool down much slower, providing a more even temperature.
Yes, but when you game with the radiator you could also put a pot on it and slow cook dinner or keep some mac n' cheese warm.
thermal mass homie. get your thermo right,
Literally doesn’t even matter your cooling choice, if you’re not throttling. If you’re not throttling, a watt is a watt is a watt and it’ll dissipate the same energy no matter how
Linus : we detected a minor leak
Also Linus : we have a pretty substantial leak
*touches radiator*
"Oooh thats hot"
Duh, yeah
Ikr. I was about to comment the same thing. Lol
LInus: We don't recommend the way we did it
Me: yeah no crap
why not buy a new clean lightweight radiator heater instead :p Revisit this one with a better setup. I'd be curious :)
@jayz2cents
your pc is doing the exact same thing as the abomination they built only more efficient the radiator is an unneccessary step to icrease entertainment value
That big radiator does nothing. Either way, the same energy is converted to heat and distributed to the room.
Not having a radiator means that the temps would be more heterogeneous in the room. More heat would be concentrated at the pc, meaning higher cpu and gpu temps, which could result in thermal throttling and therefore a smaller power output.
Sean Demers google what heterogeneous means before you use it.
Zlflo the temps would be more homosexual
@@bradhaines3142 heterogeneous was used correctly.
Actually worse due to the thickness of the metal
A couple ps4 pros will heat your whole house.
Nutz4Gunz45 and make you deaf at the same time
all you need is a pentium 4
PS4 Propeller
you just need 1 ps4 slim
It only uses 160 W though.
2:18 “THIS is Bertha!”
...
... SPEECHLESS
The moment of panic when 6:37 popped up, for a split second my heart dropped.
Get Windows 10 LTSB. I did and have ZERO regrets.
Moment of confusion here, I'm on Linux
Same and I'm on a tablet
A "blue" stop screen on a Mac. 😂😂😂
if you're expecting it then it doesn't make you panic
Should have used a radiator used in cars, preferably new, it would have saved so much time.
mojoNoodlz plus it would have been easier to find a cheap aluminum one
Car radiators use to be a thing back in the day for water cooling PCs, back when the idea of water cooling was new.
May linus sees your comment
BROLY
I remember. Everything had to be done custom in those days.
First time I saw a water loop, it confused the hell out of me.
Plus wayyyy more efficient!
I'm sending this to my Physics teacher
He'll die because is was such a waste to use a huge external heater. Better results would be had with traditional heat sinks. Basic thermodynamics.
W Bond You underestimate the heating power of amd cards. They say amd cards are used to heat the pumps of geothermal generator when earth is not hot enough.
yes and no. Using this method, you COULD heat a different room instead of your room which could be useful. And while it takes longer for their method to get started, it would in effect keep heating for a long time after the gaming session is ended.
The third law of thermodynamics disagree's with you. The rate at which the room heats would be slower yes but total heat generated would still be the same. So in actual fact, you lose useful heat by adding extra mass to the equation. The extra mass absorbs some of the heat.
Therefore, using standard heatsinks is more effective, regardless of "longer time after gaming". You'd still be better off without it
I feel sad for the physics teacher who now watches this vid without any new information. Your teacher should ask your class to write what they did wrong/right in this experiment.
Wouldn't mind seeing this again with a new (clean) heater to start with
We want a cleaner test!!! Do it again with other powerful rigs!
I second the motion
This should had been done with the best price to heat GPUs you can get:
Literally GTX 480s
4 of them
Ignafiltro Sanchez In SLI
LITERALLY cleaner, since you said the gunk probably affected the test. Rinse the system again, MAKING SURE to get out the gunk, and see how it does!
Ehhh just use the warm air coming out of the case to heat the room 😂😂😂
Boooorriiiing))
@@horatio3852 It's definitely more boring.
However, no matter what it is, n watts of energy going in will always have n watts of energy coming out. Conservation of energy.
But if you do think about it, a huge radiator is kinda impractical.
Hi @Erotikstudio Winkler GmbH. That radiator will keep your toes warm even if your face is being blasted by an Arctic gale, and it'll continue to radiate it's stored heat long after the PC is switched off right? Question why that's the case and you'll understand the flaws in your argument.
@@sndgrpr6633 No, the reason it will do that is because of the thermal soak. If you turn off the PC it will continue to release the heat it stored up during the phase when it wasn't heating the room much on their graph. The same amount of heat is released into the room once the water in the radiator is up to temp.
The reason it will continue to heat once the PC is switched off is the same reason it isn't working when you first turn it on, and this is why they're used in heating old houses. Your furnace burns for a while, and heats up the water flowing through the radiators in your house, and then turns off. The radiators the radiate the extra heat stored in the water. Once the temperature in your house gets low enough the heater turns back on, and heats the water back up. The radiators only job is to store heat, it will not increase the temperature of the room compared to running the PC with no radiator.
@@enddy123456 No, the reason it will do that has to do with the piece of the puzzle you've managed to talk around - the rate at which the radiator _releases_ heat (you know, the actual job of that radiator). It's that which primarily distinguishes room heater type radiators from other types of heat dissipation systems (including other types of radiators,) and if you had a better grasp of why it's important you might understand why "it will not increase the temperature of the room compared to running the PC with no radiator" is either an incomplete statement or just plain wrong.
Just use an old Power Mac G5.
Psivewri we want to heat the room, not burn it
Great alternative to the car-gas suicide
Any Core2Duo Xeon would do fine as well
Not really, but a great alternative to a sauna
Oh jesus don't remind me.
I used to own one of these. Loud as fuck, blew hot sauna air into the room.
11:18 Linus contemplating his life after shooting another video
hi
Dump the water cooler radiator in the snow outside. No more heat problems.....
Gonna need some REALLY long tubing
Well yeah that's how a cooling system works lol,
Ha, I actually kind of do this. I have a 9x120 rad I put in the window during the winter months and tie into my loop. Mainly so my computer room stays cool, but def helps cpu and gpu temps.
Specs:
Windows 10
i7 5960x OC @4.5GHz
3x Titan Black OC (+180 GPU / +300 MEM)
G.Skill 64GB RAM @ 2400MHz
Rampage V Extreme MOBO
Intel 600P 512GB M.2 PCI (OS)(Some games)
4x Intel 730 256GB Raid 0 (Game)
2x Crucial M4 128GB (Media)
2X WD Red 4TB (Media) (Backup)
Asus ROG Swift PG279Q 2k 166Hz (Main)
2x Asus PB287Q 4k 60Hz (Sides)
Corsair 900D case
Corsair 1200i PSU
Cooling: Two loops (Custom loops)
CPU & mosfet: (140 Rad Pull) & (480 Rad push/pull)
GPU's (360 & 480/ Push & pull) Basement install
Wouldn't that basically destroy the cooler due to condensation and rust starting to form?
Nighterlev you've never seen a pc cooling system? It's called water cooling... Google it lmao
Get a Pentium 4 and a GTX 480 and you’ll be set for life! :)
AMD Master Race!
@@linkthehero1234 I made a Ryzen 5 3600 build with the stock cooler and stock thermal paste. The stock paste is garbage, but when i replaced it to Kryonaut by Grizzly I managed to not overheat it (stock paste about 105 degrees Celsius, Kryonaut 90 (that is the upper recomanded limit))
GKGameplay CZ is it possible that you smudged the stock paste? I’ve done that many times... lol
@@heeff No, they did too thick of a layer from the factory
@@gkgameplaycz that's crazy what voltage?
Fun for a joke vid, but you do realize that it doesn't matter whether you're using an old heater radiator or not. The PC outputs exactly the same power, and if that power is fully dissipated, then it heats the air, and if not, your PC will quickly overheat. It won't output more heat if you use a bigger radiator because thermodynamics. Bigger radiator doesn't add any energy.
Yep - nonsense video. You are still using the same amount of energy if you turn off your heater and play a game on your PC instead. It's like saying you can save energy by using a different 500w heater to the 500w heater you normally use.
Nikolay Yakimov. Nowhere in the video was that claim made....
Also the kinetic energy and light are also converted into heat (by fricition and absorption) so ....
I totally agree with you. If anything the extra water needed to fill the stupid radiator made it take longer for the room to heat up. Plus, the space heater looses energy to light too as the coils start to glow, but maybe that energy is regained as it bounced around, I don't know. But you get a lot more use out of a PC. Way more efficient.
Ok but wouldn`t the big radiator spread the heat more efficiently? Instead of small fans blowing the heat right against the wall behind the pc or up against the desk?
"We also detected a minor leak"
This is a pretty significant leak.
Use a new car radiator better
Or just something like the MO-RA3 420 PRO... there have been external rads for PC for a long time.
Or just use the PC radiator. No idea why the opted for this thing, Its not gonna heat up the room faster.
No, they should've just used a NEW baseboard radiator.. The kind meant to heat rooms, not car motors..
The only reason why we use this type of radiator in our houses is because we don't have fans on them and don't need the extreme performance of a car or PC radiator.
Yeah. They could have picked up a brand new, small aluminum (low thermal mass) Honda or Toyota radiator for less than $100 bucks and gotten a clean test. Maybe even a cheap electric fan for it.
Bitcoin miners could heat up a city.
at least that good point for miners
I remember when I had 21 280x's in one room, holy shit nearly burnt my icebrows off.
Some Thing The ice caps sure feel is haha
You didn’t even need to do that because the amount of energy isn’t being changed. You’ll heat the room just the same running it normally without an old beat up hunk
Or better yet run a thermal power generator.
The furnace went out in my family's house as a kid and in the interim my brother and I used a couple of Prescott P4 Dell towers to heat our room. On a cold night (for the south, 25-30 F or so) the room didn't drop below 75* F. Can confirm, heating with PC works.
I actually did use my gaming PC to keep me warm through one cold winter's night when our gas unexpectedly ran out and I was too broke to go out and buy an electric space heater. So instead, I fired up Crisis, moved the tower closer to my bed, and just let the game idle all night. It certainly worked. My room wasn't 'warm', but it was certainly warmer than the rest of our little bachelor pad lol
All the energy your PC uses ends up as heat in your room. The kinetic energy of the coolers is passed on to the moving air which will absorb it through friction in the air. Also the led lights will reflect on walls multiple times until it is turning to heat. So the only energy not absorbed into your room, is the little bit of light which goes through the window. But we all know you only game in the window less basement of your parents never showering ^^, so everything goes into your room :D. Besides you need at least 20 LEDs per Watt, so its energy is nelegible any way.
You should flush it with CLR. It is the thoughts Calcium, Lime, & Rust Remover! CLR Cleans better and faster!
Available from these fine retailers, Woolco, Zellers, Woodwards, IGA, and K-mart!
Or just buy a new one instead of getting like 100 years old one
That is how that commercial runs.
markothevrba you could make one out of copper pipe, wouldn't even be hard.. I can think of a design that would work great off the top of my head..
Dang!
muriatic acid is faster
01:10
uhm Linus, also the fans will eventually transfer their kinetic energy into heat (which btw is also kinetic energy, just at a smaller scale)
and the light from LED too
Something worth noting is that the kinetic energy from fans will eventually fizzle out as heat due to friction. The light from the RGB lighting will also be absorbed in the room and turn to heat. That means, aside from any light from the computer that may leave the room through a window, pretty much every watt will eventually be turned into heat inside your room. You don't even need a radiator for it, and as you concluded in the video, all it does is add thermal mass and slow down the heating process
*YOU GUYS LAUGH* But I do use my PC as a space heater in the winter... I live in AZ, so the temps are a bit milder. HOWEVER, my PC does make my room toasty in the summer... EVEN WITH THE FRICKIN AC UNIT IN THE ROOM CRANKED UP. (FML, I need a new house.)
Jack Linde Or a new AC unit
I used to keep my heater off during winter because my old PC produced enough heat to make it bearable. New PC ?sadly? isn't so hot.
I live in AZ as well and have for years used my ps3 for a space heater. In fact last fall I could not figure out why game room was so hot for like 3 weeks strait until I discovered the ps3 had been on for an unknown amount of time. I can only assume a dog laid/stepped on the ps3 remote.
Like Linus said, if the heat is going to be dumped into the room anyway, why bother with a fancy external radiator. Great project though.
come to Minnesota dude. Hits -50 once or twice a year
If this doesn't feature a FX 9xxx CPU I will be disappointed.
Edit: I am disappointed.
or Pentium 4
Then this video would be meaningless because FX 9xxx is already a heater by itself.
Problem with heater? Isn't this a main point of whole video?
...and crossfire r9 290x's
Bro core i9s run much hotter.
Its funny because having an air cooled PC without a gigantic rad like that would be just as good. The heat output would have been identical.
The Timelords but with this method you could put the radiator outside in the winter and have a super cool pc
+Kevin D.
Hmmm.... That would be *cool*
Honestly i thought about something similar when i lived in North Dakota where from between November and march the highs are just above freezing and the lows where as far as -40 with entire days never even getting above 0. So if you have a large Rad filled with something that won't freeze (from what i heard Antifreeze for cars is not a good idea) and put it outside i imagine you could get some pretty low temps in your pc.
Damn that's a good idea. Someone should try it
@@chrisrawr6177 And condensation in your computer, which is not a good idea if you like a computer that works.
Would've been interesting to compare with how much time the computer takes to heat the room without the radiator thought. Because cast iron is used to accumulate heat while aluminium is more conductive.
Even the kinetic energy turns into heat (from friction), and the lights too (assuming the photons don't escape out a window) get turned knto heat as they eventually get absorbed into a material. Cant escape entropy baby.
They need to hire someone with a degree in science or engineering. This is embarrassing.
Why do you need the radiator? The same test with air cooling should work fine.
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Sponsors? lol
Sponsored by ancient radiators.
He went out of his way to show the modular piping system, which wasn't even used for the video
“Oooo that’s hot” instantly touches it again without it hurting him😑😆
Way back when my dual 4870x2 did a great job during Seattle's winter months
You could have just placed the PC in the room...
Dennis W ikr
They said it themselves. Watts in, watts out. The heat from the PC will get to the room eventually as it can't go anywhere else!
lol my Samsung Ace Style 'LTE' can bake my sausage easily..
Yeah, when I saw the thumbnail, I thought they would connect it to the main system. Though as we saw here -- it'd require extensive filtration. But pumping is already handled. That's what I would really like to see.
Well that would have bin the correct way but a bit boring 😆
1:10 Not only part of the energy is converted to heat
All of it (almost)
The light of your RGB hits your walls and gets absorbed (creating heat)
The fans blow air which hits your case and other air particles (boom, heat again)
The only energy that might get lost, is the light that makes it out of your room, thus not creating heat inside.
I just wanted to make it clear how much heat we produce
Should have put an in line filter on it the moment you knew the radiator was contaminated. Plumbing plebs.
Back in my college dorm days our rooms didn't have heaters so I improvised and had my PC set to mine crypto overnight. I earned money and substantially heated up my room at the same time, only gripe was the loud fan speed but that was bearable.
7:30 Ouch that's hot...proceeds to touch it again LUL
Tyler he touched the middle pipe. The fins on the outside are the cool parts. The middle pipe is where the heat is hense why it's hot.
Wait.... Couldn't this have been done with regular rads since it's still getting rid of the same amount heat anyway??
Yes, the problem that I hope Linus is actually working on, is quickly radiating all the heat so that it's faster/easier to condition the room.
By putting in a buttload of metal and god knows how much water to heat up as well? If you want quick change of room temperature, why would you wanna spend time heating up more water and metal than needed before venting it to the air?
The reason was so that there were *no* fans at all. No need to fan cool a radiator that large.
I really liked the idea of using it, but for this test it wasn't good. A regular water setup or even air setup would have been fine. The fans actually do generate heat via air friction so it would be the same result with much less of a warm up time.
And yet they use a bloody big pump to run it. That thing would probably be enough for a circuit of a whole house with many rads. Also 7980XE would draw more power.
Um, isn’t this cooler?
"Thats hot!" -Proceeds to touch it again-
Honestly. I had such a small room 10 years ago, my PC WAS actually my heater. And our winter could reach -25C at that time.
Sounds like Harry potter
Could you have some kind of countercurrent system? Have one system of tubing that only connects to the PC, a second loop that only connects to the radiator, and somehow allow them to dissipate heat from one to the other. This is actually how more modern nuclear reactors send heat from the fuel rods to the turbines, since it cuts down on the amount of water that has kept under extreme pressures making the system cheaper and safer.
That would have been quite pointless. Just like the radiator.
A heat exchanger to keep the transfer fluids separate would be pointless? Aside from stopping the dissimilar metal problems, the shmoo out of the small galleries that blocked up, and the ability to have two different flow rates to optimise the heat transference.... yeah.
Jimmeh B Shmoo? I'm guessing you watch AvE.
More mordern nuclear? we used that since the 60-ies...
Unlike like some older nulcear reactor's which were just open air cooled.
Also yes, that was actually a thing.
This is the second time I've watched this and the way Linus dramatically says "Our graphics card is thermal throttling" (7:09) still fucking floored me.
you guys should've bought a new radiator. they are clean and it would've saved you a lot of time too :P
My PC heats my room just fine even with out all of this fancy stuff. When I first got a PC, I had to pick up a portable A.C. unit because it would turn into a sauna in here. In the winter its nice, but any other season it sucks
His “space heater” pc is better than my daily driver... and I edit 4k footage...
threadripper is the way
My poor R5 lol. I need to get that threadripper money first haha. Maybe from my next shoot if the pay out is big enough 👀
Kinda wanna wait to see what intel does though 🙊
Yeah, just a few videos ago he said about a Titan X something like "don't worry, it's there just so I have a display output."
Using a mothertrucking Titan X "JUST for display output".
Fuck me.
Daniel 1992 I cried when he said that 😂
threadripper second gen coming in august or september
Its SUMMER Linus !!! Cmon bro
Shantanu Varma Piping it out the wall won't be difficult if you can do this. Then make sure it's shady and ambient at least in the U.K. won't get above 30.
Or burry it underground for a constant 2-12 C ground temp all year round. Same principle as ground source heat pump.
Destroys a case to "pipe the watercooling"
Leaves it open.
Ok: >Breaks a fan grill to "pipe the watercooling"
Leaves the case open.
I was about to protest because he didn’t have a beard, then I look at the timeline when this was made and this video was made a year ago.
No protest Needed, personal preference crisis averted.
Starts the video by quoting the first law of thermodynamics. Continues to build an overcomplicated solution. If you'd just put the computer with a normal cooler in it, water or air, the result would've been the exact same.
Septimius ikr, so much face palm in this one. Which is fine, it just needed a quick explanation as to why it was entirely pointless at the end just so everyone's clear why it was.
Yeah! LTT should have just tried to do it the least interesting way possible to maximize the entertainment value! We watch LTT to see the peak of efficiency not a bunch of dumb stuff that no one would ever do! grabs pitchfork We hate fun! We hate fun! We hate fun!
The results would actually have been better; you would have eliminated the lag. That is because you would not have had to heat the large amount of water in that massive radiator. But where is the fun in that... XD
I like how he says they don't want to 'generate any more kinetic energy than they absolutely have to'. I guess that's why he calls it college dropout physics. Because any kinetic enenergy that isn't used to drive mass out of your system (room) and isn't stored as potential energy must end up as heat eventually. In that sense, a ceiling fan is a (low power) space heater.
That's a very good point. I hadn't thought of that. My comment was more to show that you can't heat stuff up more with the same amount of energy. If the system draws more power, then it'll create more heat. I just wish to combat the idea that radiators somehow heat things up "better" or uses less power, by having water or oil it heats up.
Perfect video for the summer! (inb4 southern hemisphere comments)
In my country the weather is usually hot (about 30-38 degree c) but in winter the temp goes down up to 10-15" celcius which probably isn't very cold but to us it is.
So in winter I reverse the fans in my pc so that the hot air comes out of the front and face the pc front (it has a mesh grill in the front ) side towards me and that gives me a warm breeze while gaming
also I am rocking an i5 6400 and rx480
Abu Tahamid wow! Here in Canada it ranges from 40C to -40 C
man I cant even imagine that cold
I have a i5 6400 as well... except I also have a gt 730. shitty dell prebuilt. I play games like Arma 3 ghost recon wildlands and battlefield 1 on it
Matthewlet L if ghost recom wildlands can run good on it then you can play almost anything
This channel has EVERYTHING.
Remember the whole room water cooling project? I feel so old.
I helped my son build a gaming PC, his room is the warmest in the house.
Not The One relatable.
Hottest and coolest at the same time!
Haha nice, it's always great to get into computing at a young age though.
oof in my place we have 2 gameing pc's and a ps4 running in the living room almost constantly, never got cold durring winter but now were dying in spring XD
New radiators are dead cheap lol don't need old dirty one
Those new cheap radiators are shit.
Roach DoggJR not as shit as that
Yeah lol he should have just bought like a 3 foot copper fin rad.
They arent shit, they just hold less volume and are designed to be more compact.
Rig a car radiator to move heat off your computer and into the room.
Me and My roomie each had overclocked water cooled PCs in a 2 bedroom apartment about 1000sqft, we had to walk around in our underwear when it was above -20c out (canadians) if we were both gaming or gaming together. never EVER did we turn on a heater lol. so basically windows open ALL WINTER and summer we had to double air condition the livingroom haha.