You guys clearly missed the 90s ... google Vapochill LS, that was a propper cooling solution ... compact, silent, efficient and not too expensive. Waterchillers are useless marketing BS!
There's also one from Alphacool, nice unit but pricy and still not nearly as convinient as the Vapochill or Prometia units from the 90s. I had both, a Prometia Mach II and later the Vapochill Lighspeed, both really "cool" devices. They where compact and had lot of power.
Completely agree, sticking with the chiller for water cooling the cpu, but submerge the mb in mineral oil to keep the mb in a moisture free atmosphere. Great idea bud!
Well, compared to some of their other jankey solutions, this one isn't as Jank. The the bottle allows for air to escape the system, and it won't overflow, since it's only the contents of one bottle in the system.
Honestly it sounds stupid but it was actually a really good idea. Otherwise they would have to dirty a reservoir with antifreeze. Linus' reaction was pretty much the perfect reflection of that, at first appalled but after thinking it though realizing it was a good idea.
You just insulate it and put heaters in-between the insulation. I run super cold 24/7 just fine (block temp peaks at -25c, idle at -58c). Make sure to water-proof under the socket too, unless you like pins rusting out!
Is it really worth it if you are keeping it at room temp? CPU dependent of course but how much performance do you think that would give you above just a large radiator?
I laugh because I watched him ignore his employee in another video who said to drain a loop, and as soon as he was out of the room Linus just yolod it and spilled water all over the mobo and cpu
just for reference when you cannibalize this unit you should be able to extract a thermistor which controls the refrigeration side of the system, you're going to want to move the thermistor closer to the CPU AK use thermal plaster and physically plaster it to the water block that way the refrigeration system will have a better response time when the CPU gets warm
the issue is that if left on, the system will freeze the coolant, anti-freeze will fix that, but its just an incredible waste of power as that chiller probably draws a minimum of 150w from the wall
I think you take a page out of AMD's Ryzen playbook and offset the temperature probe :) . a resistor in series if its a PTC (positive temp coeff.) or in parallel if its an NTC type should do the trick, you might even be able to fix the freedom units problem.
indeed, a solution that uses the built in temperature probe would provide the best response and accuracy. Just write some code that could control an arduino's gpio
150W? the thing is already gobbling almost 600W, what's an extra 150, hell maybe next episode he will swap the power unit and hook the thing straight into the street transformer
just submerge the loop with it. Btw that depends in what you submerge, "novek" seems to work pretty well since the vaporization is essentially a "passive circulation", that is needed like you mentioned.
YES PUT IT IN A SYSTEM I'd love to see those two circular grommets on the back of some cases actually useful for something. Ps: Just copied this comment, didn't known what to write, copied from Thomas Kain. Wasn't waiting for that much likes, was just think that the LTT guys would read it, so they would do a follow up video.
The thing about amd being better is its all depending on what you use it for, amd is by far better for productivity but for gaming intel is still the way to go
This isn't unorthodox if you were in the mod community back in the mid to late 2000s. Hailea's were all the rage (along with TEC pads) back in the X58 OC.
A good idea in theory, but not in practice. No humidity means high chance of static electricity, which can easily kill components. That's why server rooms and raised floors tend to run at around 30-50% humidity all the time.
Use this same setup but drop the motherboard into a mineral oil bath, maybe that'll cancel out the moisture issue? Be like a double crazy setup; liquid chiller mineral oil bathed threadripper 2. Kind of a catchy name actually.
Der 8auer made that: a chilled dual-socket TR2 system submerged in a 3M cooler to prevent condensation. You should check it out. He got like 10500 Cinebench or something (with 2 CPUS, mind you)
@@Khloya69 a wannabe Intel fan boy who probably doesn't even have a pc, since your channel is full of pokeshit ;) and not to mention, going to every comment and responding with "AMD sucks". Pathetic
Combined waterloop for several serverchips would be a practical idea .You have to balance the heat from the chips vs the btu of the chiller and so on , add a radiator to the loop and keep the chips at ambient roomtemperature (18 degrees celcius) to prevent condensation. So the chips remain cool but not cold.
Yes! Put into a system. You REALLY should use the recommend buffer tank size to limit short cycling the compressor on the chiller. Thank you very much for taking this suggestion I gave you guys over a year ago. However, because you have the hardware, how many systems can you fit onto one chiller? Also, you can put the chiller and pump into a different room to completely eliminate any sound complaints.
You just insulted the niche group of Arctic/Antarctic fish breeders! (salt water doesn't freeze at 0C and there are valid uses for sub zero aquarium chilling. Just VERY niche ones.)
It's amazing what ethical and legal differences there will be between a company with a brand that genuinely cares and relies upon their consumers to keep themselves afloat, and a company that's become complacent and intentionally misleading. (I.e., Linus Media Group compared to Intel.)
You're adding a LOT of heat using such a large inefficient pump like a little giant. I suggest using a controllable DC pump where you can dial in the flow while not adding as much external heat.
Actually since those coolers adjust colling according to the temp of the fluid it doesnt matter what pump you use. You just need to have the pump feed the cooler not the block.
If only there was a machine that could be used to De-Humidify a Room so that when you run these experiments you didn't have to worry about Condensation
yeah they could get an dehumidifier plus an aircon and put the computer on a separated room and only bring the keyboard, mouse and video cables out and just go bonkers with it
Run all the air leading into the system through a "radiator" in line with the cold water so that the air is chilled and dried. This will bring down the dew point. "ice melter" CaCl will lower the freezing point of water well below zero so that you can use more water for better heat carrying power. Cooling the bottom of the mother board slightly will help you to get a lower die temperature because some heat can leave via the legs instead of leaking in. Expect to draw lots and lots of current because MOSFETs conduct better when colder.
DO IT! ... but do it right. Do a nice professional build with it in a nice case. with the buttons and LCD display nicely relocated to the front panel of the case.
I have a crazy idea!! Use that cooler to cool all the machines in the editing room! Kinda like you guys did back at the old house with the full copper water cooling loop. That would be cool to see. This cooler unit could have some use if you using it to cool several computers all at once?
Kale Mercer this is actually a really good idea, hopefully they will try this, maybe not with a bunch of expensive machines though, maybe some old hardware just to test it out at first
Trust me they won't. The full room water-cooling was such a pain in the ass end never worked, especially since the editors lost a lot of time because there PC's weren't working for 90% of the time
water chillers can be freezing but they limit it hence why over clocking a waterchiller is a bad idea for warranty sake you can cut the limiter off and it will go below what the compressor can do
I'd like to see this set up to a "standard" watercooled tower. Radiators in the case or not, maybe make use of those old tubing holes at the back of cases that no one ever used. I'd like to see a more "realistic" scenario where the water is kept above condensation temperature. I see some people also suggesting a newer form of whole room watercooling. A chiller (especially a large one) should be able to handle a high heat load, so piping together a bunch of workstations in parallel with a chiller could be a good (multi) video idea.
imagine the insane fire ball CPUs AMD and Intel can crank out with cooling like this. imagine using liquid nitrogen and having a CPU that equals it out
the other interesting thing is that people use windshield wiper fluid in aftermarket methanol injection setups on performance cars to keep temp's down and prevent detonation. It is a pretty versatile product lol.
7980XE uses an architecture from 2015, 2990WX uses ZEN+ which is an architecture of april 2018. To you, a 3 year old architecture should be as power efficient as the new ones ? Using your logic, a 2 core CPU from 2006-8 should use 15 watts ? Yes that's not bad for a 32 core, but don't compare to a CPU that is using architecture that is in the technology market, ancient. My problem is that a 28 core on 5.0 uses over 1000w from the wall. but people think that a 32 core on 5.0ghz will pull 300 watts. When a 32 core on 5.0 uses 1200w no one bats an eye, but when a 28 core uses 1000w everyone loses their minds. People think that 4.0GHZ = 5.0GHZ in terms of power consumption. Because they compare the watts from a 28 on 5.0 and from a 32 core on 4.0.
If you are going to boost the 2990WX that much then you may want to run the memory fabric at 2933 or 2666, which will free up a lot more power budget for the cpu cores. It takes some messing around to find the right balance since some benches are memory-heavy while others are compute-heavy. And instead of OC-ing the CPU frequency, use the power envelope settings in the BIOS (basically XFR2 on steroids). Set the thermal and electrical amperage limits to 350, and the socket power to 200, 225, 250, etc... Using the power envelope settings in the BIOS instead of manually overclocking the CPU will allow the system to idle at 85W (memory fabric 2800 or higher), or 65W (memory fabric at 2666 or lower). The power envelope settings in the BIOS are far, far superior to the manual CPU overclock settings. You can tune the system to precisely the wattage you want to pull from the wall. Amazing, the steps you went through on the BIOS and 'almost blowing the cpu up' is exactly what I went through. I had to flash the BIOS as well (which fortunately can be done without a CPU in the socket on these mobos). And my initial messing around with power envelope settings crow-barred my power supply several times. I thought I lost the very expensive CPU twice(!), but in both cases the mobo or PSU recovered and the system worked fine. For actual production use there isn't much of a point pushing 600W into the system 24x7 so I just run it air-cooled with the power envelope set to 250-300W. The thing will run forever in that state. One thing I noticed with the front-to-back air-cooling setup is that the DDR sticks on the exhaust side of the cpu fan definitely get a lot warmer than the sticks on the intake side. Doesn't matter a whole lot since I don't run the memory faster then 2933 anyway. -Matt
They already do for industrial applications, however for consumers there is a company that does "Liquipel" treatment for mobile phones & other devices.
Pretty amazing when you put it like that, that 500 watt reading is more sensible actually, 64watts per 4 cores. Sounds like an intel i5...and even those use way more than 65 watts during 100% load at stock.
As we the viewers watch on in horror. All as Dr. Frankenstein laughs and cries out, "FLIP THE SWITCH IGOR!" The storm that was brewing lets out a heavenly bolt from the heavens. Striking the sinister lightning rod outside. The bolt shooting through the wires and the machines. More wires running up to this workbench. The smoke and the sparks fill the air. All the while Doctor Linus Frankenstein laughing in joyest glee. Crying out to the heavens. Defying the will of God, "IT'S ALIVE! ALIVE!" As the cloth is pooled. The horrible creature is revealed. Tunnel Bear 2.0. *Thunder raddles and the horror of screaming villagers*
seeing that chiller: someone once cooled a whole room with several computers over a central water-cooling, with the radiators outside... that idea seems rather interesting if you use a chiller instead. with a conventional water-cooling you are Always a bit above ambient, especially in the summer with outside Rads. With a chiller you could go to inside-ambient without any condensation-risk. Where i live we had almost 40°C outside this summer, offices are usually cooled to 21°C . It might make sense to cool the computers with 21°C water, because that is the lowest safe temperature that does not require waterproofing anything. Also the computers waste-heat is taken from the room and does not stress the air-con.
my father works for the MTA when I went to work with him once (about 10+ years ago) we had to remove water from special air-conditioning units that cooled them (they had tanks), the rooms had a very small amount of heatsinks, most of the stuff from what I remember didn't even have fans, the air conditioners cooled the whole room. Once the Acs failed and the computers got so hot they melted the the rubber and plastic mounts on the server racks. The whole thing was quite impressive.
"someone once cooled a whole room with several computers over a central water-cooling, with the radiators outside..." Geez I feel like we both know that guy that did that?
ChloeWade I didnt say anything about one being better than the other. All I was saying is if you're going to use a chiller on hedt, use at least 500w so it stays sub-ambient.
Steven Willmy yh, thats why even at stock it hit 24 degrees on a few second benchmark. You need a cooler at least as powerful as the amount of power the cpu is using (200w stock, 500w oc ish)
Might as well just turn these high powered oc system into water heater, and store those heated water in your house water tank for later use, no furnace needed in home ever again
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That alcohol based coolant is going to destroy your chiller's gaskets. If you want to do something done properly get a laboratory recirculation chiller from Julabo. depending on the model they are very chemically resistant and some can cool to less than -25C (-13F). they even come with an integrated pump.
I don't think they're gonna spend $50,000 for a gimmick, at least in their other videos showcasing expensive stuff it's often freely donated from the manufacturers.
WE WANT A PC WITH A BUILT IN WATER CHILLER.
You guys clearly missed the 90s ... google Vapochill LS, that was a propper cooling solution ... compact, silent, efficient and not too expensive. Waterchillers are useless marketing BS!
Thermaltake made one several years back. Had a built in freon compressor, condenser, evaporator chamber, radiator, it was a complete unit in a case.
UP
There's also one from Alphacool, nice unit but pricy and still not nearly as convinient as the Vapochill or Prometia units from the 90s. I had both, a Prometia Mach II and later the Vapochill Lighspeed, both really "cool" devices. They where compact and had lot of power.
They already made one. "How to Build the ULTIMATE Sub-zero Phase Change Cooling PC Build Guide"
Simple answer: Cannibalize, and load it up!
but don't drop it!
Do you have to ask? Yes!
Cannibalize and load IT UP!!!
Yes cannibalize it now
go for it
YES PUT IT IN A SYSTEM
I'd love to see those two circular grommets on the back of some cases actually useful for something.
It's Linus... I'd be surprised if he hasn't already started that 'project'...
this was filmed a month ago, it's probably already done :P
Screw team Jacob. Team LINUS!
YES
What about submerging the board in mineral oil to prevent moisture condensation.
Well, it is an aquarium cooler.
He could probably even get a good 4 or 5 videos out of that...
I've been thinking about this all week.
Completely agree, sticking with the chiller for water cooling the cpu, but submerge the mb in mineral oil to keep the mb in a moisture free atmosphere. Great idea bud!
Or an airtight vacuum case
I see extra space in the $100,000 PC
Don't forget the GPU cooling too.
ohhhhyeeeeeeaaaahhhh
seconded
Finally a proper cooling solution for the 2018 MacBook Pro.
Matthew Marling: hahaha
LMAO
It would probably still overheat...
Matthew Marling why don’t they prebuilt these for bios compatibility and shit before giving to Linus? What the hell does he pay them for?!
No no no we need to make it 10mm thin and 2m x 2m
Yes Linus, I would like to see this cooler cannibalized and integrated into a system. Put your minions to work immediately.
Randy Marsh with the i7 8700K maybe?
Excellent suggestion.
i7 8086K LE
Completely agree.
Wonder if you can get like LN2 OC performance out of a commercial chiller. Does Linus know any hardcore overclockers?
"trust me, you'd love my little giant" oh my ;)
LL_2013 Your little giant is really impressing me.
Kinda gay but ohk
it could also be a pet...
Just as I was thinking "wow they're actually doing something a legit way", Alex goes "you want to just stick the tubes in and duct tape it off?"
Well, compared to some of their other jankey solutions, this one isn't as Jank. The the bottle allows for air to escape the system, and it won't overflow, since it's only the contents of one bottle in the system.
Honestly it sounds stupid but it was actually a really good idea. Otherwise they would have to dirty a reservoir with antifreeze.
Linus' reaction was pretty much the perfect reflection of that, at first appalled but after thinking it though realizing it was a good idea.
Build it into a system... With an air sealed container over the board with a dehumidifier to combat the condensation... :)
You just insulate it and put heaters in-between the insulation. I run super cold 24/7 just fine (block temp peaks at -25c, idle at -58c).
Make sure to water-proof under the socket too, unless you like pins rusting out!
This guy sciences.
i thought most people used Vaseline
Is it really worth it if you are keeping it at room temp? CPU dependent of course but how much performance do you think that would give you above just a large radiator?
@I suck at being bad
Would you done it again, now?
Could you please give some pros and cons, like power consumption, noise level, easy maintenance?
Linus has genuine concern for pc parts but his employees don't its hilarious
I laugh because I watched him ignore his employee in another video who said to drain a loop, and as soon as he was out of the room Linus just yolod it and spilled water all over the mobo and cpu
@@Cheapiebeepie Lmaoooo
I feel like it's the other way around
He does after he drops the hardware
This is chaos at its best.
just for reference when you cannibalize this unit you should be able to extract a thermistor which controls the refrigeration side of the system, you're going to want to move the thermistor closer to the CPU AK use thermal plaster and physically plaster it to the water block that way the refrigeration system will have a better response time when the CPU gets warm
couldnt you instead just add another block to the loop and stick it to the thermistor?
the issue is that if left on, the system will freeze the coolant, anti-freeze will fix that, but its just an incredible waste of power as that chiller probably draws a minimum of 150w from the wall
I think you take a page out of AMD's Ryzen playbook and offset the temperature probe :) . a resistor in series if its a PTC (positive temp coeff.) or in parallel if its an NTC type should do the trick, you might even be able to fix the freedom units problem.
indeed, a solution that uses the built in temperature probe would provide the best response and accuracy. Just write some code that could control an arduino's gpio
150W? the thing is already gobbling almost 600W, what's an extra 150, hell maybe next episode he will swap the power unit and hook the thing straight into the street transformer
Run it on a mineral oil submerged kit, then it won't condensate and you can run it super low.
Bob, always the voice of reason... And blowing a guy for coke.
Good idea.. Awesomeness.
Unless you have active circulation, submerging isn't actually that effective. It heats up pretty fast.
just submerge the loop with it. Btw that depends in what you submerge, "novek" seems to work pretty well since the vaporization is essentially a "passive circulation", that is needed like you mentioned.
let's copy/paste so linus can see .. caus this is brilliant.
13:55 When you tell your girl you've got an overclocked 32-core CPU
Yes
whats up james
her thoughts will probably be:
1."what does he have to compensate"
2.."thank god ist not another Girl"
Little dry ? 🤣
Only If there into computers too otherwise It will just be as moist as it normally is lol
The casual way Linus uses the phrase "goatse stretch" will forever haunt my dreams.
Cooling a CPU with a water chiller?
Intel: "Seems legit"
Also i vote for tearing that chiller apart and building it into a PC, DO IT!
YES PUT IT IN A SYSTEM
I'd love to see those two circular grommets on the back of some cases actually useful for something.
Ps: Just copied this comment, didn't known what to write, copied from Thomas Kain.
Wasn't waiting for that much likes, was just think that the LTT guys would read it, so they would do a follow up video.
why you copying Thomas Kain's comment?
Its Linus
XD i cant wait see it
Antec DF-85.
Alex V yikes
Still awaiting the day that the cinebench score is OVER 9000
can be done already
@Ray Johnson i am sorry did you mean rome
Over 9000?!?!
I see what you did there
I think i have heard that somewhere.
"Who does AMD think they are? Intel?" -Linus 2018. Little did Linus know that AMD is now better than Intel.
Amd has always been better, now it's higher performance lol
@Warped Sounds if you say so
Warped Sounds Ok fan boy
The thing about amd being better is its all depending on what you use it for, amd is by far better for productivity but for gaming intel is still the way to go
@Warped Sounds barely. intel is barely exceeding amd in single thread
Any cpu company: *releases high end cpu*
Linus: COOLING THE (under cpu name here) USING (random unorthodox method)
This isn't unorthodox if you were in the mod community back in the mid to late 2000s. Hailea's were all the rage (along with TEC pads) back in the X58 OC.
I will watch any of those combinations, even Thunderbird Athlon cooled with ham sandwich
Youve killed more than 2 people and less than 4
Arm CPUs?
re: paul venn
them golden eocf and xs days
YES PLEASE INTEGRATE IT INTO A SYSTEM
Try putting the PC inside a drybox or a dry room (dehumidifier in a room). There won't be condensation if there isn't any water vapour to condense.
that's actually really interresesting
Yes there will. Only way to totally get rid of condensation is the put it in a total vacuumed space
A good idea in theory, but not in practice. No humidity means high chance of static electricity, which can easily kill components. That's why server rooms and raised floors tend to run at around 30-50% humidity all the time.
what if you fill it with sf6 gas?
Mineral oil!
seeing alex go from this unboxing to the best unboxings on short circuit is astounding
i WANT TO SEE A PERMANENT SETUP WITH THIS GEAR!!!
same
Linus 💰 saving tips!
Return the pump if you already have one.
why waste money tho the one he already got seem bigger/better.
I wouldve liked it if they still tried the new pump, just to check how the noise level would be when not goint overkill with the pump?
@@meinnase you are stupid beyond belief
Yah, but never mind the $1800 Threadripper!
As an Intel fanboy, Linus was forced to shoot this video to discredit AMD. Disappointing.
PLZ CANNIBALIZE IT AND TURN IT INTO A SYSTEM!!!!!!!
That $100k PC he's building definitely needs this
Y they should put it in the 100k system
YEA JUST DO IT LINUS!
Put in in the 100k system, but only after you add RGB and hard line water cooling
Plz!!!!
“It’ll give you lots of HEAD.. pressure” ;) 3:47
it's just like vaseline caked around the ram ... it's like nerve wracking the way you have to go at it. ~7:20
2:42
Put the whole board in mineral oil to avoid condensation.
that's actually such a sweet idea lol
Mineral oil cooler to below freezing LoL
Cool the mineral oil in the fish tank pc with this
Blake J l
why not put it into epoxy?
This sound is driving me "NUCKING FUTS"
Fuck! You beat me to it!
Bobbie Sterling
Buck! You feat me to it!
"That's a real man's pump. It'll give you lots of head...pressure."
Linus knew exactly what he was doing. 😂
I thought I was the only one that noticed it 😂🤣😂
That little smirk
AMD: Here's Threadripper..
And us thinking about Linus: Here's Threadripper-Ripper..
“This is really compact” *slaps giant chiller*
*Slaps giant chiller* This bad boy can fit so many cools in it.
Compared to other chillers, its pretty small yes.
MEEM CORRECTION
Yes, I do want to see it integrated into a system. But can it cool the i9 macbook pro?
Not even in your dreams
Rack mount chiller?
Boring
this is pretty much the same as asking if it can fix the charging port on the magic mouse... nothing can fix pure stupidity
Can it cool Crysis?
cool the macbook pro with that.
Up
it will still overheat
Nah. You need LN2 for that.
ooooh yeah i cant wait to see that
"The worst part about this is that this loop will perform significantly better than yours". I laughed so hard :D :D. The delivery
Use this same setup but drop the motherboard into a mineral oil bath, maybe that'll cancel out the moisture issue? Be like a double crazy setup; liquid chiller mineral oil bathed threadripper 2. Kind of a catchy name actually.
Der 8auer made that: a chilled dual-socket TR2 system submerged in a 3M cooler to prevent condensation. You should check it out. He got like 10500 Cinebench or something (with 2 CPUS, mind you)
That'd be wicked
Oh shit he should.
Upvote so he sees this
Do this! :D
Of course we want to see that cannibalized and integrated. This is the kind of wacky stuff we don't see in the modern age of easy computer building
He's Linus Tech Tips, so we probably will be seeing that anyway
Verlisify didnt expect to see you here
ew.
Verlisify we don’t wanna see amd period
@@Khloya69 a wannabe Intel fan boy who probably doesn't even have a pc, since your channel is full of pokeshit ;) and not to mention, going to every comment and responding with "AMD sucks". Pathetic
When your friends come over to play Fortnite but they think your pc is a meth lab so they run away
😂😂😂😂
Integrate it in the "multiple Workstation - 1 CPU"!
WS2808 *oooooo yes daddy*
in the 100.000$ pc?
Combined waterloop for several serverchips would be a practical idea .You have to balance the heat from the chips vs the btu of the chiller and so on , add a radiator to the loop and keep the chips at ambient roomtemperature (18 degrees celcius) to prevent condensation. So the chips remain cool but not cold.
We're at 59 Freedom Units, whatever that is" 😂😂😂
Kenneth Fitzpatrick when he said that I was rolling! 😂
Sweatshirt indoors, t-shirt outdoors.
Kenneth Fitzpatrick I prefer 69 freedom units
i scrolled down and read this comment about 6 second before he said it.
That's 15°c for the rest of the world
9:36 “and that noise is driving me nucking futs” Linus 2018
the pump he used. not the chiller.
Who knew linus was an Australian burnout comp fan. Nucking futs is a burnout car in aus
Nucking Futz is the catch phrase of David Spade in the Dicki Robeson movie...
@@Warm_Summer_Rain A woman of culture.
@@Warm_Summer_Rain It's been a saying since like the 70's.
Yes! Put into a system. You REALLY should use the recommend buffer tank size to limit short cycling the compressor on the chiller. Thank you very much for taking this suggestion I gave you guys over a year ago. However, because you have the hardware, how many systems can you fit onto one chiller? Also, you can put the chiller and pump into a different room to completely eliminate any sound complaints.
Whole room water chiller.
I like the way you think.
I love the fact that they honestly think that people would want to chill their aquariums to less then the freezing point.
You just insulted the niche group of Arctic/Antarctic fish breeders! (salt water doesn't freeze at 0C and there are valid uses for sub zero aquarium chilling. Just VERY niche ones.)
10:30 39F was the limit of the chiller temp setting range
15:43 you should really do it and name the video "Cannibal dropocaust/Dropenstein cooling system" or something like that.
Oh yeah
Please just do it LINUS
Do it
dropocaust would probably get demonetized
Please
Intel forgot to mention they used a chiller, yet a small Canadian RUclips channel remembered to mention it. Imagine that.
Seon-Ho since when was a youtuber with 7 million subs a small youtuber and im also pretty sure he works in ibm or something idk
"small"
Relative to Intel? Besides, it's funnier to say a small Canadian RUclips channel.
Well Linus is a small Canadian RUclipsr
It's amazing what ethical and legal differences there will be between a company with a brand that genuinely cares and relies upon their consumers to keep themselves afloat, and a company that's become complacent and intentionally misleading. (I.e., Linus Media Group compared to Intel.)
We want more Alex' unboxings, specially if he throws the parts at Linus as it goes.
>Goatsee stretch
You're a fucking legend, Linus.
You're adding a LOT of heat using such a large inefficient pump like a little giant. I suggest using a controllable DC pump where you can dial in the flow while not adding as much external heat.
This is a rhetorical statement.
Big giant*
The could just put the pump in a pull configuration and conect the water cooler directly to the die
Actually since those coolers adjust colling according to the temp of the fluid it doesnt matter what pump you use. You just need to have the pump feed the cooler not the block.
It really is nothing in comparison to the cpu.
Luke looks different nowadays
@DCED unfortunately... 😞
Lol dick
becuase it is "smaller luke" lol
That's pre super soldier serum Luke.
Now with 15% more social awkwardness! ;)
If only there was a machine that could be used to De-Humidify a Room so that when you run these experiments you didn't have to worry about Condensation
/sarcasm
yeah they could get an dehumidifier plus an aircon and put the computer on a separated room and only bring the keyboard, mouse and video cables out and just go bonkers with it
they should use a dehumidifier to cool a system
I mean Going Bonkers is what they do. So why not have a testing room specifically for these crazy projects!
:thonk:
Linus: 18 million dollar net worth
also linus: REEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY BUY PUMP
it's not that much if you start throwing money like a moron
there is a german saying ... you learn to save from the rich
Warren Buffet eats at McDonalds for breakfast and uses coupons. He's worth $82 billion.
Thats why he is worth 18 million...
Rich people are rich because they live like there poor and poor people are poor because they live like there rich
YES!!! *CANNIBALIZE AND INTEGRATE!!* For the love of god, *YES!*
YES!!! CANNABIS!! YES!
Yes! Go canibalize the "7editors rig"!
Yes. 😶
please do it
Yes
put it on the $100,000 build!!!!!!!
Ya, good idea, so you can waste $100,000 whenever it breaks !
R.I.P $100.000
Probably wouldn't fit considering the hardware he already has planned to go in.
Run all the air leading into the system through a "radiator" in line with the cold water so that the air is chilled and dried. This will bring down the dew point.
"ice melter" CaCl will lower the freezing point of water well below zero so that you can use more water for better heat carrying power.
Cooling the bottom of the mother board slightly will help you to get a lower die temperature because some heat can leave via the legs instead of leaking in.
Expect to draw lots and lots of current because MOSFETs conduct better when colder.
“goatse stretch” Jesus Christ
LOL I CAME TO THE COMMENTS TO SEE IF ANYONE NOTICED!
I mean he asked for it
2:42
DO IT! ... but do it right. Do a nice professional build with it in a nice case. with the buttons and LCD display nicely relocated to the front panel of the case.
Wrong channel
"It will give you lots of head... pressure"
Lol was looking for this comment
I have a crazy idea!!
Use that cooler to cool all the machines in the editing room! Kinda like you guys did back at the old house with the full copper water cooling loop. That would be cool to see.
This cooler unit could have some use if you using it to cool several computers all at once?
Exactly what I was talking about! excited box
Kale Mercer this is actually a really good idea, hopefully they will try this, maybe not with a bunch of expensive machines though, maybe some old hardware just to test it out at first
tough the same here.
Trust me they won't. The full room water-cooling was such a pain in the ass end never worked, especially since the editors lost a lot of time because there PC's weren't working for 90% of the time
true, but would be funny to see ;-.)
i just went back in time from 2019, Threadripper 3 is now out, this needs to be tested with this kit again!
Yes! And integrated into a system as suggested in the video.
13:17 Who does AMD think they are? Intel? Epic.
this is the most cringy, nerdiest joke I've ever witnessed in my life.
Alex Nieves YIKES Alex, this isn't twitch chat
Alex Nieves You did come to a video about nerding out over CPU temps. Lol
Alex Nieves - That's why You've got All the 'Likes' and Neon Blaze has got Nothing..!
Epyc*
You bought a water chiller for an aquarium and expected it go below the freezing temperature of water... those are some high expectations.
water chillers can be freezing but they limit it hence why over clocking a waterchiller is a bad idea for warranty sake you can cut the limiter off and it will go below what the compressor can do
Don't you have polar bears in your aquarium?
i think you dont really understand the comment link99912 made
Lmao, that was great.
If you mean in the video, they didn't.
Lots of head pressure is very important for getting the juices flowing
Just yes
"Trust me, you'll like my little giant" ~ Linus, 2018
I'd like to see this set up to a "standard" watercooled tower. Radiators in the case or not, maybe make use of those old tubing holes at the back of cases that no one ever used. I'd like to see a more "realistic" scenario where the water is kept above condensation temperature.
I see some people also suggesting a newer form of whole room watercooling. A chiller (especially a large one) should be able to handle a high heat load, so piping together a bunch of workstations in parallel with a chiller could be a good (multi) video idea.
"It'll give you lots of head... pressure". Nice save, Linus.
get a truck radiator and run coolant with an lS V8
Thomas Rivard YES!!!
When LS Swap everything goes too far
YOU CAN NEVER GO TOO FAR I LS SWAPPED MY POOL FILTER
@@fecesdasheeit1581 Creating your own climate change in your backyard.
i LS swapped my toaster
u know ur boss is pretty chill when u can throw things at him
Linus, why don't use the IC GRAPHITE THERMAL PAD, instead of thermal paste...it performs better at low temperatures.
Srinivas A i cant tell if youre trolling
it certainly doesnt
Use this to cool down a pc inside a tank with mineral oil. No problem by condensed water.
That's what I was thinking.
As others suggested in addition to a mineral oil tank add a radiator to the out line to cool the oil abit before tossing it back to the cooler.
Or just insulate everything good
I 100% believe this is how he should integrate it into the system for a more "practical" use
What about using FROZEN mineral oil :)
"Trust me you'll like my lil' giant"
- Linus 2018
4:45 THE MEMORIES ARE FLOODING BACK
Linus, allow him to preform all future unboxing. Notice how he didn’t drop ANYTHING. Submitted for your consideration.
Except he threw a power cord at Linus.
9:35 That's a nice way to censor.
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I bought an aquarium chiller a few years back and incorporated it in a loop. Amazing results!
imagine the insane fire ball CPUs AMD and Intel can crank out with cooling like this. imagine using liquid nitrogen and having a CPU that equals it out
Imagine getting 90c load temps with liquid nitrogen but getting cinebench score of 6198751
I'm on Linus's team, cannibalize it!!!!
500w CPU running at under 40C. This is your most insane video ever.
and then you realize he used windshield washer fluid instead of actual coolant...
the other interesting thing is that people use windshield wiper fluid in aftermarket methanol injection setups on performance cars to keep temp's down and prevent detonation. It is a pretty versatile product lol.
Yeah, 500w for 4.0Ghz, not 5Ghz ^_^ 5Ghz needs a ton of voltage, which means it will go over 1k w.
Consumes less than the 7980XE when overclocked to 4.0GHz and has 14 more cores. I'd say that's not bad at all for a 32 core chip.
7980XE uses an architecture from 2015, 2990WX uses ZEN+ which is an architecture of april 2018. To you, a 3 year old architecture should be as power efficient as the new ones ? Using your logic, a 2 core CPU from 2006-8 should use 15 watts ?
Yes that's not bad for a 32 core, but don't compare to a CPU that is using architecture that is in the technology market, ancient.
My problem is that a 28 core on 5.0 uses over 1000w from the wall. but people think that a 32 core on 5.0ghz will pull 300 watts.
When a 32 core on 5.0 uses 1200w no one bats an eye, but when a 28 core uses 1000w everyone loses their minds.
People think that 4.0GHZ = 5.0GHZ in terms of power consumption. Because they compare the watts from a 28 on 5.0 and from a 32 core on 4.0.
Just turn the test bench upside down. Water problem is solved!
Wait wat..
He sayin to let the condensation aka water drip down. Obviously trolling sarcastically lol.
My head: Threadripper
My mouth: red thripper
If you are going to boost the 2990WX that much then you may want to run the memory fabric at 2933 or 2666, which will free up a lot more power budget for the cpu cores. It takes some messing around to find the right balance since some benches are memory-heavy while others are compute-heavy. And instead of OC-ing the CPU frequency, use the power envelope settings in the BIOS (basically XFR2 on steroids). Set the thermal and electrical amperage limits to 350, and the socket power to 200, 225, 250, etc... Using the power envelope settings in the BIOS instead of manually overclocking the CPU will allow the system to idle at 85W (memory fabric 2800 or higher), or 65W (memory fabric at 2666 or lower).
The power envelope settings in the BIOS are far, far superior to the manual CPU overclock settings. You can tune the system to precisely the wattage you want to pull from the wall.
Amazing, the steps you went through on the BIOS and 'almost blowing the cpu up' is exactly what I went through. I had to flash the BIOS as well (which fortunately can be done without a CPU in the socket on these mobos). And my initial messing around with power envelope settings crow-barred my power supply several times. I thought I lost the very expensive CPU twice(!), but in both cases the mobo or PSU recovered and the system worked fine.
For actual production use there isn't much of a point pushing 600W into the system 24x7 so I just run it air-cooled with the power envelope set to 250-300W. The thing will run forever in that state. One thing I noticed with the front-to-back air-cooling setup is that the DDR sticks on the exhaust side of the cpu fan definitely get a lot warmer than the sticks on the intake side. Doesn't matter a whole lot since I don't run the memory faster then 2933 anyway.
-Matt
Someone should start building weather-sealed motherboards lol
special order just for linus
They already do for industrial applications, however for consumers there is a company that does "Liquipel" treatment for mobile phones & other devices.
250 Watts that’s not even 8 Watts per core lol. Imagine your 4 core cpu only using 32 Watts on cinebench
Need
You mean a ryzen u, or a coffee lake mobile?
@groza exaclty what i was thinking
Pretty amazing when you put it like that, that 500 watt reading is more sensible actually, 64watts per 4 cores. Sounds like an intel i5...and even those use way more than 65 watts during 100% load at stock.
4:45 We can probably just GOATSE stretch a 3/8 over there.
Linus keeping it classy and gross.
Ian Hughes yeah wtf hahahaha
Do IT-!
Dr Linus Frankenstein. . .
. . . You know you want to.
Search your feelings you know it to be True.
As we the viewers watch on in horror. All as Dr. Frankenstein laughs and cries out, "FLIP THE SWITCH IGOR!" The storm that was brewing lets out a heavenly bolt from the heavens. Striking the sinister lightning rod outside. The bolt shooting through the wires and the machines. More wires running up to this workbench. The smoke and the sparks fill the air. All the while Doctor Linus Frankenstein laughing in joyest glee. Crying out to the heavens. Defying the will of God, "IT'S ALIVE! ALIVE!" As the cloth is pooled. The horrible creature is revealed. Tunnel Bear 2.0.
*Thunder raddles and the horror of screaming villagers*
"Do you want to see us cannibalize this and add it to a system?"
Yes. Obviously. With RGB. Full loop with sli video cards as well.
seeing that chiller: someone once cooled a whole room with several computers over a central water-cooling, with the radiators outside... that idea seems rather interesting if you use a chiller instead. with a conventional water-cooling you are Always a bit above ambient, especially in the summer with outside Rads. With a chiller you could go to inside-ambient without any condensation-risk.
Where i live we had almost 40°C outside this summer, offices are usually cooled to 21°C . It might make sense to cool the computers with 21°C water, because that is the lowest safe temperature that does not require waterproofing anything. Also the computers waste-heat is taken from the room and does not stress the air-con.
my father works for the MTA when I went to work with him once (about 10+ years ago) we had to remove water from special air-conditioning units that cooled them (they had tanks), the rooms had a very small amount of heatsinks, most of the stuff from what I remember didn't even have fans, the air conditioners cooled the whole room. Once the Acs failed and the computers got so hot they melted the the rubber and plastic mounts on the server racks. The whole thing was quite impressive.
"someone once cooled a whole room with several computers over a central water-cooling, with the radiators outside..."
Geez I feel like we both know that guy that did that?
you can actually go below ambient without condensation. dew point. multiple factors matter.
Get a S&A CW-5200. They are used in cooling laser engravers and have an integrated tank and pump.
1/10th of a horsepower (75w) chiller. So almost 24x less than the 1770w chiller intel used for their “5ghz” stunt
Yep. 75w isn't enough for sustained load from a 500 watt CPU.
A Brackers AMD sucks
A Brackers that isn’t anywhere near enough either so stup tryna say amd is actually good
ChloeWade I didnt say anything about one being better than the other. All I was saying is if you're going to use a chiller on hedt, use at least 500w so it stays sub-ambient.
Steven Willmy yh, thats why even at stock it hit 24 degrees on a few second benchmark. You need a cooler at least as powerful as the amount of power the cpu is using (200w stock, 500w oc ish)
Linus Linus, do you even have to ask a question like that? Hell yeah, duh🙄😉 Of course we wanna see that cooler integrated into a system👍🏻
Amazing, overclocked threadripper 2 consumes just 20 times less power than a manufacture-grade thermal treatment furnace!
that's more than some microwaves...
i would consider a microwave under 700 watts a pretty shitty one though ;)
Might as well just turn these high powered oc system into water heater, and store those heated water in your house water tank for later use, no furnace needed in home ever again
I wanna see this connected to the new threadripper 3990X while being overclocked!
"It will give you lots of head..."
"Pressure"
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Yeah bro its his "little giant"
Obviously the answer is YES. Team Linus on this one. I wonder what the lowest Freedom Units your rig could go to ...
Can it run MS Paint?
I have seen a comment from you, ON EVERY TECH VIDEO I HAVE WATCHED TODAY SO FAR, you are EVERYWHERE
13:29 nope, can't run adobe premiere, so how ould it be able to run paint
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nope because threadripper rips paint
Can it run Minecraft
Love how chill these guys are together.
That alcohol based coolant is going to destroy your chiller's gaskets.
If you want to do something done properly get a laboratory recirculation chiller from Julabo. depending on the model they are very chemically resistant and some can cool to less than -25C (-13F). they even come with an integrated pump.
I don't think they're gonna spend $50,000 for a gimmick, at least in their other videos showcasing expensive stuff it's often freely donated from the manufacturers.
Yeah do it. have you ever tried Peltier cooling?
Look for his ultimate phase cooling build. You will like that.
You could do it like der 8auer by pouring 3m novec on the cpu so there is no condensing water
Linus is such an interesting personality, idk why there's a certain charm about him that makes me wanna listen to him