Chilling Threadripper 2!!!
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YES PUT IT IN A SYSTEM
I'd love to see those two circular grommets on the back of some cases actually useful for something.
It's Linus... I'd be surprised if he hasn't already started that 'project'...
this was filmed a month ago, it's probably already done :P
Screw team Jacob. Team LINUS!
YES
Finally a proper cooling solution for the 2018 MacBook Pro.
Matthew Marling: hahaha
LMAO
It would probably still overheat...
Matthew Marling why don’t they prebuilt these for bios compatibility and shit before giving to Linus? What the hell does he pay them for?!
No no no we need to make it 10mm thin and 2m x 2m
"trust me, you'd love my little giant" oh my ;)
LL_2013 Your little giant is really impressing me.
Kinda gay but ohk
it could also be a pet...
Simple answer: Cannibalize, and load it up!
but don't drop it!
Do you have to ask? Yes!
Cannibalize and load IT UP!!!
Yes cannibalize it now
go for it
just for reference when you cannibalize this unit you should be able to extract a thermistor which controls the refrigeration side of the system, you're going to want to move the thermistor closer to the CPU AK use thermal plaster and physically plaster it to the water block that way the refrigeration system will have a better response time when the CPU gets warm
couldnt you instead just add another block to the loop and stick it to the thermistor?
the issue is that if left on, the system will freeze the coolant, anti-freeze will fix that, but its just an incredible waste of power as that chiller probably draws a minimum of 150w from the wall
I think you take a page out of AMD's Ryzen playbook and offset the temperature probe :) . a resistor in series if its a PTC (positive temp coeff.) or in parallel if its an NTC type should do the trick, you might even be able to fix the freedom units problem.
indeed, a solution that uses the built in temperature probe would provide the best response and accuracy. Just write some code that could control an arduino's gpio
150W? the thing is already gobbling almost 600W, what's an extra 150, hell maybe next episode he will swap the power unit and hook the thing straight into the street transformer
Linus has genuine concern for pc parts but his employees don't its hilarious
I laugh because I watched him ignore his employee in another video who said to drain a loop, and as soon as he was out of the room Linus just yolod it and spilled water all over the mobo and cpu
@@Cheapiebeepie Lmaoooo
I feel like it's the other way around
He does after he drops the hardware
This is chaos at its best.
Linus 💰 saving tips!
Return the pump if you already have one.
why waste money tho the one he already got seem bigger/better.
I wouldve liked it if they still tried the new pump, just to check how the noise level would be when not goint overkill with the pump?
@@meinnase you are stupid beyond belief
Yah, but never mind the $1800 Threadripper!
As an Intel fanboy, Linus was forced to shoot this video to discredit AMD. Disappointing.
"That's a real man's pump. It'll give you lots of head...pressure."
Linus knew exactly what he was doing. 😂
I thought I was the only one that noticed it 😂🤣😂
That little smirk
Use this same setup but drop the motherboard into a mineral oil bath, maybe that'll cancel out the moisture issue? Be like a double crazy setup; liquid chiller mineral oil bathed threadripper 2. Kind of a catchy name actually.
Der 8auer made that: a chilled dual-socket TR2 system submerged in a 3M cooler to prevent condensation. You should check it out. He got like 10500 Cinebench or something (with 2 CPUS, mind you)
That'd be wicked
Oh shit he should.
Upvote so he sees this
Do this! :D
Still awaiting the day that the cinebench score is OVER 9000
can be done already
@Ray Johnson i am sorry did you mean rome
Over 9000?!?!
I see what you did there
I think i have heard that somewhere.
“It’ll give you lots of HEAD.. pressure” ;) 3:47
it's just like vaseline caked around the ram ... it's like nerve wracking the way you have to go at it. ~7:20
2:42
cool the macbook pro with that.
Up
it will still overheat
Nah. You need LN2 for that.
ooooh yeah i cant wait to see that
“This is really compact” *slaps giant chiller*
*Slaps giant chiller* This bad boy can fit so many cools in it.
Compared to other chillers, its pretty small yes.
MEEM CORRECTION
Put the whole board in mineral oil to avoid condensation.
that's actually such a sweet idea lol
Mineral oil cooler to below freezing LoL
Cool the mineral oil in the fish tank pc with this
Blake J l
why not put it into epoxy?
Try putting the PC inside a drybox or a dry room (dehumidifier in a room). There won't be condensation if there isn't any water vapour to condense.
that's actually really interresesting
Yes there will. Only way to totally get rid of condensation is the put it in a total vacuumed space
A good idea in theory, but not in practice. No humidity means high chance of static electricity, which can easily kill components. That's why server rooms and raised floors tend to run at around 30-50% humidity all the time.
what if you fill it with sf6 gas?
Mineral oil!
YES PUT IT IN A SYSTEM
I'd love to see those two circular grommets on the back of some cases actually useful for something.
Ps: Just copied this comment, didn't known what to write, copied from Thomas Kain.
Wasn't waiting for that much likes, was just think that the LTT guys would read it, so they would do a follow up video.
why you copying Thomas Kain's comment?
Its Linus
XD i cant wait see it
Antec DF-85.
Alex V yikes
The casual way Linus uses the phrase "goatse stretch" will forever haunt my dreams.
Yes! Put into a system. You REALLY should use the recommend buffer tank size to limit short cycling the compressor on the chiller. Thank you very much for taking this suggestion I gave you guys over a year ago. However, because you have the hardware, how many systems can you fit onto one chiller? Also, you can put the chiller and pump into a different room to completely eliminate any sound complaints.
Whole room water chiller.
I like the way you think.
I bought an aquarium chiller a few years back and incorporated it in a loop. Amazing results!
Luke looks different nowadays
@DCED unfortunately... 😞
Lol dick
becuase it is "smaller luke" lol
That's pre super soldier serum Luke.
Now with 15% more social awkwardness! ;)
AMD: Here's Threadripper..
And us thinking about Linus: Here's Threadripper-Ripper..
If only there was a machine that could be used to De-Humidify a Room so that when you run these experiments you didn't have to worry about Condensation
/sarcasm
yeah they could get an dehumidifier plus an aircon and put the computer on a separated room and only bring the keyboard, mouse and video cables out and just go bonkers with it
they should use a dehumidifier to cool a system
I mean Going Bonkers is what they do. So why not have a testing room specifically for these crazy projects!
:thonk:
Of course we want to see that cannibalized and integrated. This is the kind of wacky stuff we don't see in the modern age of easy computer building
He's Linus Tech Tips, so we probably will be seeing that anyway
Verlisify didnt expect to see you here
ew.
Verlisify we don’t wanna see amd period
@@Khloya69 a wannabe Intel fan boy who probably doesn't even have a pc, since your channel is full of pokeshit ;) and not to mention, going to every comment and responding with "AMD sucks". Pathetic
We want more Alex' unboxings, specially if he throws the parts at Linus as it goes.
“goatse stretch” Jesus Christ
LOL I CAME TO THE COMMENTS TO SEE IF ANYONE NOTICED!
I mean he asked for it
2:42
Yes, I do want to see it integrated into a system. But can it cool the i9 macbook pro?
Not even in your dreams
Rack mount chiller?
Boring
this is pretty much the same as asking if it can fix the charging port on the magic mouse... nothing can fix pure stupidity
Can it cool Crysis?
You're adding a LOT of heat using such a large inefficient pump like a little giant. I suggest using a controllable DC pump where you can dial in the flow while not adding as much external heat.
This is a rhetorical statement.
Big giant*
The could just put the pump in a pull configuration and conect the water cooler directly to the die
Actually since those coolers adjust colling according to the temp of the fluid it doesnt matter what pump you use. You just need to have the pump feed the cooler not the block.
It really is nothing in comparison to the cpu.
DO IT! ... but do it right. Do a nice professional build with it in a nice case. with the buttons and LCD display nicely relocated to the front panel of the case.
Wrong channel
seeing alex go from this unboxing to the best unboxings on short circuit is astounding
You bought a water chiller for an aquarium and expected it go below the freezing temperature of water... those are some high expectations.
water chillers can be freezing but they limit it hence why over clocking a waterchiller is a bad idea for warranty sake you can cut the limiter off and it will go below what the compressor can do
Don't you have polar bears in your aquarium?
i think you dont really understand the comment link99912 made
Lmao, that was great.
If you mean in the video, they didn't.
My head: Threadripper
My mouth: red thripper
spray the board with a hydrophobic film and either tilit it or have it upside down with channels to carry moisture away from components. Bottle the collected water and sell it to fans of the show.
the worst part of this idea...there are those that would buy it XD
9:35 That's a nice way to censor.
Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star
i love that they use the normal messuring system and not 3/4 of itself and 2 foot plus a toe
Lots of head pressure is very important for getting the juices flowing
Just yes
Linus: "Alcohol based coolants"
Life of Boris: "This is my vodka cooled PC"
"Trust me, you'll like my little giant" ~ Linus, 2018
"It'll give you lots of head... pressure". Nice save, Linus.
Someone should start building weather-sealed motherboards lol
special order just for linus
They already do for industrial applications, however for consumers there is a company that does "Liquipel" treatment for mobile phones & other devices.
Can it run MS Paint?
I have seen a comment from you, ON EVERY TECH VIDEO I HAVE WATCHED TODAY SO FAR, you are EVERYWHERE
13:29 nope, can't run adobe premiere, so how ould it be able to run paint
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAAHAHAHHA AHA AHA HAHA HA HA AHH AHA HA AH AHHA AHA AH AH HAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHA HA AH AH AH AH AH YAHHA AH AH AH AH AH AH AHAHAH AH HA HAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nope because threadripper rips paint
Can it run Minecraft
imagine the insane fire ball CPUs AMD and Intel can crank out with cooling like this. imagine using liquid nitrogen and having a CPU that equals it out
Imagine getting 90c load temps with liquid nitrogen but getting cinebench score of 6198751
Linus Linus, do you even have to ask a question like that? Hell yeah, duh🙄😉 Of course we wanna see that cooler integrated into a system👍🏻
"It will give you lots of head... pressure"
Lol was looking for this comment
9:35 “nucking futs” I love it 😂
Use this to cool down a pc inside a tank with mineral oil. No problem by condensed water.
That's what I was thinking.
As others suggested in addition to a mineral oil tank add a radiator to the out line to cool the oil abit before tossing it back to the cooler.
Or just insulate everything good
I 100% believe this is how he should integrate it into the system for a more "practical" use
What about using FROZEN mineral oil :)
Lmfao "We're at 59 freedom units" had me dying coming from an American we appreciate you!
Just turn the test bench upside down. Water problem is solved!
Wait wat..
He sayin to let the condensation aka water drip down. Obviously trolling sarcastically lol.
What is AMD think they are? Intel? 😂😂😂
Good competition
lol
Heyy I know you ^^ ;D
Manchmal gibt es eben Dinge, die kann man am Telefon nicht regeln.
thinking*
4:48 "We can probably just like goatse stretch a 3/8 inch over there" LOL
LMAO
If you are going to boost the 2990WX that much then you may want to run the memory fabric at 2933 or 2666, which will free up a lot more power budget for the cpu cores. It takes some messing around to find the right balance since some benches are memory-heavy while others are compute-heavy. And instead of OC-ing the CPU frequency, use the power envelope settings in the BIOS (basically XFR2 on steroids). Set the thermal and electrical amperage limits to 350, and the socket power to 200, 225, 250, etc... Using the power envelope settings in the BIOS instead of manually overclocking the CPU will allow the system to idle at 85W (memory fabric 2800 or higher), or 65W (memory fabric at 2666 or lower).
The power envelope settings in the BIOS are far, far superior to the manual CPU overclock settings. You can tune the system to precisely the wattage you want to pull from the wall.
Amazing, the steps you went through on the BIOS and 'almost blowing the cpu up' is exactly what I went through. I had to flash the BIOS as well (which fortunately can be done without a CPU in the socket on these mobos). And my initial messing around with power envelope settings crow-barred my power supply several times. I thought I lost the very expensive CPU twice(!), but in both cases the mobo or PSU recovered and the system worked fine.
For actual production use there isn't much of a point pushing 600W into the system 24x7 so I just run it air-cooled with the power envelope set to 250-300W. The thing will run forever in that state. One thing I noticed with the front-to-back air-cooling setup is that the DDR sticks on the exhaust side of the cpu fan definitely get a lot warmer than the sticks on the intake side. Doesn't matter a whole lot since I don't run the memory faster then 2933 anyway.
-Matt
get a truck radiator and run coolant with an lS V8
Thomas Rivard YES!!!
When LS Swap everything goes too far
YOU CAN NEVER GO TOO FAR I LS SWAPPED MY POOL FILTER
@@fecesdasheeit1581 Creating your own climate change in your backyard.
i LS swapped my toaster
14:23 , when linus slaps a monitor thats almost as expensive as your whole setup like its nothing
how much is it tho?
1000$.. and that's actually more than the cost of my PC ! i5 & 1060
That kind of a tap is negligible though.
I have an i7 7700 with a gtx 1070 with 16GB of ram
And your name rhymes with fetus and letuce. Congratsulations haha
Lol overclocked threadripper maxing at 39°C, mine i5 have higher temp at idling
My old Ivy Bridge i5 idled at like 60°C
You might not have a chiller like theirs installed
Heh. I have an i7 980X at 32 C at idle.
And here I thought I was doing well when I got idle temps of 39°C on my Ryzen 5
#chilledIntelChallenge?
Knew a guy in college that during the 'cooler' months would run a copper tube in a loop outside his dorm window and had a fan blowing on it - this copper tube then fed into a water cooling system for his computer. Apparently he overclocked like crazy in December, February, and March. That's one way to 'chill' your water cooling setup.
Obviously the answer is YES. Team Linus on this one. I wonder what the lowest Freedom Units your rig could go to ...
Linus
How about building up a rim around rhe entire cpu block to catch the condensation? You could even run a drain line off that modified cpu block to carry the condensate away safely
John
I’d honestly be disappointed if you didn’t do something that voided EVERY warranty of any product you touch
they need to turn this into a slogan lol
1/10th of a horsepower (75w) chiller. So almost 24x less than the 1770w chiller intel used for their “5ghz” stunt
Yep. 75w isn't enough for sustained load from a 500 watt CPU.
A Brackers AMD sucks
A Brackers that isn’t anywhere near enough either so stup tryna say amd is actually good
ChloeWade I didnt say anything about one being better than the other. All I was saying is if you're going to use a chiller on hedt, use at least 500w so it stays sub-ambient.
Steven Willmy yh, thats why even at stock it hit 24 degrees on a few second benchmark. You need a cooler at least as powerful as the amount of power the cpu is using (200w stock, 500w oc ish)
"It will give you lots of head..."
"Pressure"
Mr_ Vosakisen Linus Sex Tips
Yeah bro its his "little giant"
"How do I avoid drinking windshield de-icer"
"It's for chilling aquariums" sounds a lot better than "it's for chilling my hydroponic reservoir, so that my gigantic weed plants won't get root rot."
(this is actually a chiller made by a hydroponic gardening wholesaler"
Well he does live in Canada. That will be very legal in less then two months. He's expanding his business perhaps ;p
@@devilmikey00 the other weeds pothead
*i need this for roblox*
THATS THE BEST IDEA EVER MADE IN THE UNIVERSE
Jarlie you'll be lucky to run minesweeper.
You mean like run a 9000-player server?
SAME!
r/woosh
I had to google "dew point" to fully understand the complexity of this super cooling/ overclocking video... I feel smarter now for the future
Yeah do it. have you ever tried Peltier cooling?
Look for his ultimate phase cooling build. You will like that.
Linus: PC master race is about respecting the hardware
Also Linus: THREADRIPPER 2
I've read it as "Thread dripper" must be from watching the video before reading xD
That is a real mans pump it will give you lots of head .... pressure
Chemist here. If you want to reduce the amount of dew on the lines run an A/C full blast in the room you wish to run this setup in. It will wick most of the moisture from the air.
Put it in the $100,000 pc
I was wondering, when doing “extreme” CPU cooling, would it
not be a good idea to flip the motherboard upside down so moisture can fall
away from the board rather than puddle up on it?
audio226 Such a simple yet functional idea...
Surface tension and cohesion can cause water to run along things in odd ways instead of falling freely so it could make it more likely to damage pcie, ram slots, vrm, or other components you don't want wet. Like how when you're doing dishes it can run along your arm and wet your sleeves instead of just dripping off your hands. Might be worth a shot with cheap hardware for a test though.
Edit: also capillary action.
but then it would puddle on the back of the motherboard which is worse becase there is smds and solder joints on the back
nah, the back of the mobo won't be that cold.
Just dump the whole thing into mineral oil, not even for cooling, just as a protective measure
You can use a plastic water bottle to suck the liquid through the pipe. Put the pipe to a sports style bottle cap or directly into bottle with tape around edges to make a seal. Squeeze the air out of the bottle, connect it and it should start the flow then swap over once the flow has began
"That is a real man's pump," I hear him say as I'm standing next to one with 8" inlets and outlets and a 100 HP motor.
DO IT.
Your PC has 100HP? usually in games, A PC would have high HP so that the battle would last
should've used flex tape
"goatse stretch"
linus
no
I almost died at thet part
I had this idea about 10 years ago, when I had saltwater fish tanked that needed a chiller.
I see Linus is getting ready for Intel's 28-core at 5 Ghz.
XeonProductions might need a fire extinguisher too.
Gives you lots of head pressure.
Just turn the processor upside down and let gravity do the trick with the condensation ;)
simple logic but still no need to go so low with temps......even if is cooling at 6 degrees celsius is enough
@@SIGSAUER_P320 still fun to watch though :)
I thought of this too but remembered water has a bit of tension.
Put the test bench in a case and nitrogen purge it, the nitrogen will help remove the moisture. Insulating the lines will also help cut down on condensation.
"would you like to see this cannibalized and integrated into a system?" Is that even a question dude? I subscribed to Linus Tech Tips not Wos Disappointment Tips.
You could prevent dew in a vacuum chamber but you'd have to figure out a way to pass power through at the very least. Video could be done optically and the rest wireless. A partial vacuum might be enough to lower the dew point, and a simple dehumidifier would also lower the dew point.
Alternatively, a pressure chamber would actually increase the performance of air cooling, and the heat pipes are already designed to withstand pressure. The whole thing would have to be chilled with some desiccant inside though since it's basically a hermetically sealed box.
You could do it like der 8auer by pouring 3m novec on the cpu so there is no condensing water
EKWB should make custom loop accessories that can avoid condensation with tubings and water blocks with isolation material wraped on so anybody can use this chillers or they can even make their own chillers like this it is not impossible to isolate the materials by factory and make it possible avoid the condensation
"That's Heavy!"
*Throws it in the direction of an exposed test bench*
Linus is such an interesting personality, idk why there's a certain charm about him that makes me wanna listen to him
0.1 horsepower. So... 75 watts?
Approx.
on the compressor. Colling power should be more, since it moves the heat.
*nucking futs*
Yup
i wonder, what would happen if you do this same test, but in the oil pc? i mean, humidity can't condense there, but still can cool those tubes as much as the machine possibly can
I'm pretty sure we're all on your team do ittt!
I would really like to see this cooling solution integrated into a system. That would be a very interesting video!
With that chiller and hard line tubing you could run several thread rippers at once
The chiller already looks like a PC case anyways, so just slap a microATX (wish there was a mini-itx size for Threadripper) motherboard on it and you are good to go...unless you want to see if there is enough space inside to cram it in there...
5:23 - 5:36 CLOSE YOUR EYES
omfg hahahahhah
Thats what she said
Hahaha nice
That's what she said...😂😂😪
Just seeing this. When Lines did the water cooling of a room with pipes and it failed years ago I commented he should try using a aquatic chiller.Well I finally got to see it. Nice!
Forget chilling, why not just freeze the entire computer in a block of deionised water?
@Intelligence Injection mineral oil then
Intelligence Injection i didn’t know water can be a robbers, did they use guns or knife then?
@@ramade9040 neither, science.
Local melting will occur
Deionised still isn't clean enough.
You are reinventing a solution that was commercially available over 20 years ago. Have you ever heard of Kryotech? In November of 1999, Kryotech released the first 1ghz consumer PC, based off of an overclocked AMD Athlon 750 (Slot A, 180nm K75 Pluto/Orion architecture). Intel's fastest processor at that time was the 850mhz Pentium III (Slot 1, 180nm P6-Coppermine architecture)
The 1ghz speed was achieved by cooling the CPU to -40 Celsius using refrigerated cooling integrated into the system. The tower weighed 70 pounds, but it was an all in one solution. It cost $2500 in 1999, so I couldn't afford it, but it seemed pretty cool.
"Just goatse the hose on there."
DEMONETIZED.
Better not google this. lol
"You'll like my little giant. See? Now that's a real man's pump. It'll give you lots of head..." *pauses, smiles* "pressure.."
Was this cooler ever deconstructed into a PC case?
Would love to watch a video of that!
1 10th of a horse power is about 75W. That's the maximum heat it can disipate. After that you're relying on on the mass of the water to absorb the heat.
Your best bet would be to cool the water coming off the cpu with a conventional radiator first.
It makes sense to add a rad in line, but does strength of pump directly = max dissipation ability? Seems unlikely.
That's not how compressors work. The wattage draw of the compressor motor is not a 1 to 1 ratio with how much heat can be dissipated. In this case the cooler is rated at about 960 BTU/hr, which is about 281 watts. Still not enough to keep up with the max draw on Threadripper 2 overclocked indefinitely, but significantly better then if it could only dissipate 75w.
Ive had a Hailea HC-500 chilling my tower for a long time. works good but pretty loud.