This makes me want to buy a CM5 for absolutely no reason lol. I wish I had the time to tinker with it, but for now I'll keep living vicariously through you!
Every time I watch one of these videos I go through the different things I could build with a Pi just to see if I can find something I'd actually use as an excuse to buy one and play.
Nexdock with raspberry pi integration slot? Only have to upgrade what you need. Need extra storage add an extra m.2 drive. Maby someday will get a small formfactor gpu that can be interchangable
Like the compute module replaces the processor? Doesn't seem very useful, given that it's still a lot less powerful than any regular framework processor. Not sure what the use-case there would be. A custom low cost laptop chassis that uses the CM5 would be cool though.
Hopefully someone is quick to making an itx/atx board for the CM5 that can use ATX power and a PCIE slot, I think this really is the first raspberry pi to ACTUALLY be a desktop replacement, the CM4 was fast and all, but the CM5's improved PCIE support is major imo. Exciting stuff.
I would love this so much-Radxa led the way for an Arm SBC-based ITX board, would like to see something either official from Pi, or from a 3rd party that works nicely.
@@Adam130694 Arm is low power. The N100 uses about 20W, the Pi 5 about 10W, or about half the power consumption. Sure for a desktop the N100 would be the better option due to compatibility, but the Pi is meant for projects that need efficiency
Agreed, I managed to get a CM4 when it had peaked in sales, it was a little hard to get, but once I had booted it a few time, I was, well crap, I was begging to do a drag race of boot times, and it was over a year before a Win (anything) booted in my house... (Win vs RP4) PI WINS !
Did ya ever get the feeling the Pi was almost physiologically addictive? If you build your own PCs, the Pi is perfect for you. I love mine, built a boot disc just for doing my taxes last year, i finished up a bit later, chunking the taxes disc into my lock box. Handy for that, security and all.
I skipped Raspberry 4 waiting for Raspberry 5. Now I have to wait for the second revision so as to not get the lemon 1st version. Then I'll wait for the price to come down. Then Raspberry 6 will come out and I'll wait for that instead. I get to wait and rest from all that waiting.
Even a quick google search for "raspberry pi cm5" right before watching this video had Jeff's blog on the topic on the very top of the results, even above the official Raspberry Pi websites. Excited to see what Jeff can do in the future with this!
Yeah, I think distributors weren't shipping until this week, so @JeffGerling must have gotten (well-deserved) unit(s) directly from Raspberry Pi Plc. Mine are with courier right now.
It's great that this is a drop-in replacement on the Super6C! I did try to run Ceph on that in the past, but my experience has been that it is seriously hampered by the 1-Gbe switch; Ceph really needs more bandwidth than that. Unfortunately, as you said earlier in the video; despite the CM5 theoretically having all this bandwidth, there is no way to get it out of the module on the Super6C. I would love to see a Super6C with a 2.5 or 5 Gbe switch chip on it.
Ditto! DeskPi's been pretty good about updating based on community feedback (like they've tweaked their 10" rack accessories a bit since they launched!). Hopefully they can do that (at least 2.5 Gbps...).
It would be nice to know if any of the control features (via I2C interface on the chip) are wired into the Super6C anywhere at all - from what I see on-line, the RTL8370N ether controller will switch 16Gbps worth of traffic and will do 9k jumbo frames at that. (The other throughput figure I see is 11.9Mpps@64bytes.) So, one should be able to push a reasonable amount of traffic among the nodes - and this is easy to test. It has been suggested that the chip only does "Balanced-XOR" teaming, but I don't find any suggestion of that in its datasheet. There's at least one undocumented feature of the board - it has a four-pin 5V aRGB LED interface populated on the board. I haven't tried plugging anything in to it, but I did read 5V on the appropriate pin one of the times I had it open.
This needs to be the standard form factor around the industry. How about an all-in-one where you can upgrade the computer without throwing away a perfectly good monitor? How about a miniITX carrier board? Manufacturers should adopt this form factor across the board to reduce solid waste.
There are even larger SoM standards like COM-HPC for faster processors. It's be cool to have more upgradable stuff. But it saves money and keeps obsolescence going to just solder everything to the final product :(
The CM4 shortage slapped me back to reality and taught me that a N100 mini pc is cheaper, more reliable and better in every single aspect....Not to mention the time I saved from all the relentless surgical tinkering required just to make things work. Good video though!
The N100 is faster, but if memory serves is it as efficient in terms of performance per watt? Also still not as small as there RPi but it's close. I'd love to see an Intel or AMD CPU using the compute module form factor. Seems like they would make bank with it.
@TonyOstrich those units exist, but cost is 3 times or more look for dfi with amd cpu in sbc form, there are n100 cpus on radxa boards, same problem radxa has many other solutions
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@@betag24cn It costs less. I got 16GB RAM/512 GB ROM N100 mini PC on AliExpress for ~150 EUR including power adapter, monitor mount, case, storage...
If Apple put in some active ongoing support or mainlined everything needed (so in theory the community can keep support up) to run the M4 based SOM that would be really interesting. But I rather suspect it would also be so expensive almost everyone that wants a SOM wouldn't want to pay that much...
I've been playing around with the idea of connecting the RP1 to the exposed PCIe port instead (over only one lane) and exposing the 4 lanes used by the RP1 for something else, but getting that to work beyond Gen1 speeds would be a bit more tricky. And I'd have to sacrifice a pi 5 to try it.
@@coreforge I'm happy to support the cause :) I'd be willing to sponsor a few Pi 5s for that-also for trying to build your own RP1 PCIe card that could slot into a PC!
@@JeffGeerling damn didn’t consider that it would also affect CAM, Display, (Ethernet?). I could live without GPIO. But we all know the Pi community. Its not a question if but when somebody got the “bright” idea to desolder the RP1 and replaced it with a PCIe switch or something like that.
8 terabyte drives, Jesus I know time flies and all but seriously it was not that long ago that the first 1 gig hard drives arrived. About 28 years from there to here. I remember reading an article from the 70's where IBM was promising that "one day" they hoped to make hard drives as cheap as a dollar a megabyte! which would mean your 8 terabyte hard drive would cost 8 million dollars :D
the most cool promise from IBM was the unification of the hierarchy of cache memory. Maybe with HBM "memory" that could happen, yeah, lets just use static RAM for everything, who cars about cost. AI gives infinite money from VC anyway
My first DOS computer (386/33 I think?) I built from scrap had a whole 1 MB of RAM, and I thought that was pretty awesome. Even upgraded to like 4MB so I could play DOOM.
We can't do without Jeff Geerling! I really want to buy a few red shirts to pay tribute to Jeff and give them to my colleagues, haha. The video quality is really great!!
Obviously someone industrious needs to make an external GPU holder with power supply, and compute module IO board "all-in-one" solution. Just drop in your compute module and video card. Alternatively GPU manufacturers could just put a compute module interface on the back of video cards. They could even make compute modules without integrated GPUs to make them cheaper and expose more lanes to the e-gpu. That would be an awesome, low power, solution for AI systems.
Another advantage to the CM is that you can choose where the connectors are. For including it in a product the basic Pi has awkwardly placed connectors that are sure to need internal cables or worse, putting it on a motherboard pcb AND having internal cables.
Thanks for the geekbench results. Looks as if single-core performance on the CM5 vs the RK1 is approximately equal, but multi-core performance on a 32GB RK1 is twice as high as what the 8GB CM5 scored. (n.b. I haven't tried to tweak any of my results - best case, I killed a couple of non-essential services on the machines. A true speed-run would be running on a stripped kernel with just enough system to drive the storage and tty.)
To me, "software support" doesn't mean wide selection of OS images, but all drivers being available upstream and support in independent (downstream) distributions.
@@JeffGeerling I can see there are a few pins which now do something different between the CM4 & CM5 but I think (would need to check) those aren't used by the uConsole so I think it should work
@@PeterMountUK That’s a very cool board! I thought it’s a retro gaming setup; but it seems much cooler. In my case, I have a GPiCase2. Wonky initial software setup aside (rather hacky bash and Python scripts), it’s pretty cool - dockable HDMI output, but with built in display over DPI (lowres, but that’s fine), and - importantly - a battery. Issue? Well, lack of analog inputs. D-pad is there, start/select, ABXY, L1/R1, two bonus buttons, “off” switch (a software command) and a reset button. Missing? Analog sticks or triggers. Otherwise, it would be a perfectly serviceable streaming device, plus a nice target for devs willing to target very lightweight devices. Of course, uConsole seems even more impressive - portable terminal? Yes, please. And it seems to have DPad+ABXY+L/R. I don’t know where the analog sticks would go, but I’d like them so much on it. (Assembling a Retro Lite is beyond my expertise or at the very least time constraints.) How’s your impression of the speed of typing on uConsole compared to current mobile keyboards?
this Turkey Day, I'm thankful for Jeff Geerling! This was a massive video, cramming at least 45 minutes of content into 15 minutes. Even though the channel covers big variety of stuff nowadays, he's still the best "Raspberry Pi Guy" ;)
New Jeff video right after midnight?? Ohhhhhhhhh. Really nice that it's so compatible and they held the line on pricing! Turing Pi is running a BF Sale for the next five days - only 10% off for the 32GB RK1 module, but hey, it's a discount.
I would like to see more about CM5 for routers with 4 lan ports or more and WiFi 🛜, I tired of trying to convert a store bought router into something better.
I perked up when you mention Kubernetes.... Better than the N100 and can run Ubuntu Server(?). Related but a side note, love to see a video of how to get cheap nodes with low res graphics, doesn't come with Windohs 11 preinstalled, got at least 8GB, PCIe and a 2.5G ethernet. I bought 3 'stick' computers for my lab last week and had to pay the $20 Microsoft tax (like the old OEM days).. thanks for this though, really good info.
I’ve been watching these tech videos for a while, but what the heck is a “time lord” lol, that threw me for a loop. I didn’t know Pi Time Travel was a thing yet. For them, it doesn’t matter what the specs are, but when.
@CrkdLtrN yes, New Zealand, the only retail suppliers of RPi here don't sell CM4s and we can only rely on online retailers like Digikey, which have rarely been able to keep any in stock, granted I haven't checked in a little while, it's likely I'd be able to find some now, but I was wondering if it was worth waiting for a CM5 release.
Haven't had time for that testing, but hope to pop one in on a carrier board in my TP2 cluster soon. Note that I have the older 2.5 revision board (I think? Maybe 2.3?), there's a newer Turing Pi 2 revision out there now.
@@slimhazard Ah, just checked the Turing Pi site-the board I have is from more than a year ago. The 2.5 is just finishing up production! It has a number of tweaks to make use a little easier, but I don't have one of those. I have an old (now non-functional) prototype, and a Kickstarter version I got after backing it.
@@JeffGeerling I'd be very interested in that test, too. Still didn't get any boards for my kickstarter-TP2 yet and continued playing with my TP1. Maybe this is the perfect reason to upgrade :-D
@@Tobias-G you could always upgrade your TP1 with the CM4 version of the Compute Module 3, which is known as the CM4S. Same form-factor, but with CM4 components on-board. Storage runs from the Lite model with no on-board eMMC through 32GB eMMC variants.
I'm just happy that they've built a case with the io board, so now it's a normal pi but with all the ports on one side. Prettier under a TV or on a desk. Dunno whether I will splash out again just for that though
I only recently started using a Raspberry Pi 5 as a mini home server (network enabled Time Machine for Mac, Plex, VPN, etc.) using Umbrel OS. The extra features of the CM5's IO board compared to a standard RPi5 makes a very compelling argument for an upgrade since improved USB speeds and onboard M.2 storage would both improve load times. I love it!
Thanks for this information and well crafted video. I hope this board will be compatible with my new ClockworkPi Uconsole that now uses a CM4! Have a great day!
It looks like CM5 support is in the works, at least as far as is publicly available on the Home Assistant OS GitHub repository. Keep in mind this is currently development work and not a promise of support, I'm also not affiliated with the project so I can't speak on their behalf.
@@JeffGeerlingyeah I saw it linked in one of the threads on the home assistant discord as well as the announcement itself. I guess hailo is all the rage now but I assume we can use the Coral m.2 TPU now? I can't wait to test it on the 16GB model supposedly coming in February 😅
@@coreforge My guess is that was 'dark silicon', used in some Broadcom-specific device, because it's never been exposed on a Pi device (yet, at least). I'm wondering if it was dropped in the chip's D0 stepping.
Yeah that really hurt when they launched CM4. I was so excited about all the projects... then realized so few individuals could get their hands on them :( Hopefully Raspberry Pi produces a ton of these and gets them into retail channels quickly (so far it's been a trickle, but it's only been a couple days, so quite normal for any Pi launch).
@@JeffGeerling I need to store 60k ~5000 word documents plus audio (each representing about a minute of spontaneous speech) in a python dict, and then run multiprocessing on each core (can't thread, a longer story) for a half dozen different statistical things, including wav2vec2phoneme. Are there any competing boards available now that already have 16G RAM? Edit: thinking about this suggests a way I can fit it in 8 gigs, which is probably what I should do if not. Edit2: on third thought, I can push far more stuff that doesn't need to be in RAM to disk without tolling the most costly inner loops. But I am still curious as to whether there are any 16G competitors, clones or otherwise (as long as pip3's toolchain works). I should probably fix the dict bloat either way.
Jeff, we are looking for a dual channel of RAM but it does not make sense to go with 32-bit data bus of the RAM. Here are two options. The first option is to have 64-bit RAM with a single channel but it is still not challenging enough. The second option is to have two 64-bit chips of RAM which would be dual channel but we do not have enough space on the PCB board, or this RAM would be embedded on the SoC chip. The enterprise technologies mostly operate with memory, and the ALU operations do not happen so often. The CPU bus speed and RAM matters for the enterprise. After these improvements, we can even compare with the ordinal laptops which already use the dual channels or even 4 channels of RAM and more.
The universal 'click me' / clickbait energy of RUclips is disgusting. Trying to hook an audience with stupid, cliche lines, just pisses audiences in mass off with useless information, if you can even call it that. Everything can't be 'changes everything', groundbreaking, insane, crazy, 'you won't believe', 'must watch'. Give us the information like you would a friend, and stop there. Sensationalizing everything is a scummy practice everyone universally hates and everyone should stop trying to shove it into everything.
Still waiting for my Compute blade, but now I am tempted to get a 16GB model CM5 to test out it capabilities! Awesome video like always! Can't wait to see what new boards come out for this. Need a NAS board. Wonder if the next generation is going to add another row of pins like other boards to help with bandwidth. Hope we see better PCIE bandwidth.
The CM5 with PCI 3.0 and all the I/O upgrades opens up a lot of opportunities. May grab one if I can think of a use case for it. Only thing missing is that extra PCI-E lane on the SoC which still remains unused. Would really help with a lot of things like GPUs, SSDs and 10G network cards.
That's... actually a great question! I tried the CM5 on the CM4 IO Board (you have to supply a different DTB to get everything working), but didn't try the reverse. I *assume* it should just work, since the only major difference is the USB 3.0 data lines would route into two of the Camera/Display connectors...
Have you tested the performance of the Radxa board for LLMs? The NPU embedded should provide better speeds (considering if models could be made to work at all using any of the GPU/NPU combinations)
@@JeffGeerling Ah, I see. I need to check out their "Taco" design! Would be nice more companies to make NAS solutions from CM5. I've tried buying Radxa SATA HAT, which you used for Pi NAS and it's sold out everywhere.
Lets appreciate how that tiny thing is faster than any computer 20yrs ago, those of us who were here using windows 98, this kinda performance back then was science fiction.
Gosh I really appreciate the work you do to share the latest updates and test everything you can! Just ordered a CM5 kit I’m excited to see if it works with my farm robot motherboard.
I wish for a carrier board (ideally for CM5 gen) that has true mini-itx form factor and that can be a drop in replacement for regular PC hardware. this would be perfect for those that want to build low power PCs for their familly or repurpose existing hardware, but don't want to invest/rely in custom built casing, etc... My use case would be turning my PC into a NAS and replacing the high power consumption of first gen ryzen to something that can easily be passively cooled or cooled by the case fan. there also would be the option to use cases like the jonsbo N-series to build powerful, yet generationally upgradable ARM NAS. (especially with that Radxa board, the idle power consumption makes it a perfect candidate for a device that will idle most of the day/night).
Have to agree with everybody on that the title should at least mention the CM5. For somebody who doesn’t want to be known as “the Raspberry Pi guy” you sure seem to have a lot to gain from these RPI videos to use clickbait titles like that…
For some reason I find the time server incredibly interesting, I look forward to your video on that. Regardless, thanks for all of your hard work, always super jazzed when I see a new vid pop up on my subscription feed. Let's give Jeff a round of applause!
The breakout board is awesome, I would prefer that and the CM5 over a standard Pi5, I like the IO all being on one side, and the ability to use an MVME drive on it directly, I could design and print a nice media player or emulator case for it.
I absolutely despise RUclips click bait titles. I wish they were more descriptive so we actually know what the episode is about. Same with ever channel tho :(
That's why power users subscribe to the blog ;) No clickbait required, plus all the graphs for days! I also don't make a dime off the blog, but that's not why I write!
I so want the compute blade to finally be available for general purchase in the US. I think it's such a cool little board, and I had a similar idea before I even saw you feature it lol. I was trying to come up with a way to stack like 14ish rasp pi's in a 19-inch rack (I determined I could get 14 decently squeezed in with enough space for airflow IIRC).
Hello Jeff! We are designing an expansion board based on the CM5, featuring rich functionalities and ease of use-perfect for makers and developers. We’d be happy to send you a sample for unboxing and review to share your experience. Would you be interested? Looking forward to hearing from you! 😊
THANK YOU for the memcpy numbers on an RK3588 board. I’ve been following coverage of them for years and nobody ever measures the memory bandwidth so I’ve never been sure how fast he memory is
"Smaller than a credit card" has got to be the worst marketing BS. It's like saying a bus is bigger than a car because you look at it head on. Go put it in a card holder. I'll wait. Not an attack at you. The content is good. Just a stupid tech pet peeve.
This board with one or two M.2 drives not only makes a perfect small NAS not for a home or small office, but also to carry around! I were looking for a small NAS to save some movies and pics, but I this is a pretty neat alternative :D
Have you ever tested a concerto set up using the NEC display? We have a server running concerto in our data center and then raspberry pis as the clients. They boot into a full screen browser with a specific URL that connects them to the server. We are able to run multiple different streams fro multiple campuses and buildings. And it all replaced a expensive signage system, though there is more management than those paid for systems.
Ditto, though I still have my early dev versions to keep me company :( I hope they get the things out in the US soon. I've been waiting for a project for a very long time.
Had plans to setup a mini blade cluster (4x blades), combined costs were too high and the availability of these blades being non-existent... I got myself a Lenovo M720q with a 4 port Intel nic (real one) and put Proxmox on it (going to get a second setup soon to cluster it). Way cheaper and instant availability. These blades appears to be "cool" but... I did ask on their Discord channel, "from your official website, when and how much?". Response was: "we will not sell directly to the public, you will have to buy from a reseller." I left the Discord shortly after reading this and thought... yeah, f...k it.
Just a thing I used to hear a lot; back in early Playstation/GameCube era, I remember when a game rendered without stutters, at least some people would call that "buttery smooth" :) But I may have also just been hungry when writing that line! Mmm toasty!
Hi, I have some questions: 1. Can you build a Linux smartphone with the CM5? with screen, battery, cooling etc 2. I am new to all the RPI things, can you explain for what we need the CM5 and for what the regular RPI5? 3. So if I want to use the CM5 I need to use the Carriers right? 4. In general - do you know about a good power bank or chargeable battery that can use for RPI5 (and the CM5) for traveling? Thanks a lot for your videos : )
@jeffgeerling I'm also interested in building a Linux ARM tablet using the CM5. I want a low-power Surface substitute that gives me enough performance for working while traveling. It's been possible to make a Raspberry Pi tablet for years now, but I haven't found a carrier board that would allow me to keep the profile thin. Also, CM4 performance wasn't cutting it for me. The CM5 would be just right. I think a carrier board with an NVME slot, an SD card slot, two type C ports, a socket for a 3.7v slim LiPo battery (with the appropriate battery management), DSI sockets for the display and webcam, a slot for an LTE/5G radio, a power button, and no headers would work well for my needs. I hope someone makes this board.
It's a seriously OP chip! I mentioned in the clustering section how the RK1 still holds the SBC Cluster King crown, and how the RK3588S2 on the Radxa CM5 crushes the Pi CM5 in almost every benchmark (and efficiency!) :)
Time for a raspberry pi phone.
I'm up for that!
I'd love that but I dread the cooling issues it'd present
You can diy one already.
...with a rotary dial - Justine Haupt, here we go again! :)
We still need better gpu
This makes me want to buy a CM5 for absolutely no reason lol. I wish I had the time to tinker with it, but for now I'll keep living vicariously through you!
Valid, and certainly cost-saving approach to life!
@@JeffGeerling please keep spending money so I don't need to
Keeps us watching!
Every time I watch one of these videos I go through the different things I could build with a Pi just to see if I can find something I'd actually use as an excuse to buy one and play.
I keep waiting to see what you are going to be next time. Each time though, you say until next time, you're Jeff Geerling.
One of these days...
@@JeffGeerling "Until next time and beyond, I'm [...]"
@@JeffGeerling Next time: "I'm AI Jeff."
I do not know where he gets the time to sleep with all the kit he is testing and playing with·
One day he might bring other people to his show, who knows... 😁
Now if someone could make a Framework laptop mainboard that takes compute modules...
That's a really good idea.... love that. Is that not a good kickstarter project....
Nexdock with raspberry pi integration slot? Only have to upgrade what you need. Need extra storage add an extra m.2 drive. Maby someday will get a small formfactor gpu that can be interchangable
Framework laptop can use x86, risc-v, arm is just a time question😮
Like the compute module replaces the processor? Doesn't seem very useful, given that it's still a lot less powerful than any regular framework processor. Not sure what the use-case there would be.
A custom low cost laptop chassis that uses the CM5 would be cool though.
@CutoutClips smartphones 😁
Hopefully someone is quick to making an itx/atx board for the CM5 that can use ATX power and a PCIE slot, I think this really is the first raspberry pi to ACTUALLY be a desktop replacement, the CM4 was fast and all, but the CM5's improved PCIE support is major imo. Exciting stuff.
I would love this so much-Radxa led the way for an Arm SBC-based ITX board, would like to see something either official from Pi, or from a 3rd party that works nicely.
As a noob in SBC matter: why just don’t use N100?
@@Adam130694 Arm is low power. The N100 uses about 20W, the Pi 5 about 10W, or about half the power consumption. Sure for a desktop the N100 would be the better option due to compatibility, but the Pi is meant for projects that need efficiency
@ I saw 5-8W at IDLE in Windows on N100?!
@@Adam130694hence you are answering yourself, that is a lot more than rpi FOR IDLE
I don't know how you took the time to make this whole video without screaming "I HAVE A CM5!"
I've been waiting! Great video Jeff!
Agreed, I managed to get a CM4 when it had peaked in sales, it was a little hard to get, but once I had booted it a few time, I was, well crap, I was begging to do a drag race of boot times, and it was over a year before a Win (anything) booted in my house... (Win vs RP4) PI WINS !
Did ya ever get the feeling the Pi was almost physiologically addictive?
If you build your own PCs, the Pi is perfect for you. I love mine, built a boot disc just for doing my taxes last year, i finished up a bit later, chunking the taxes disc into my lock box. Handy for that, security and all.
I skipped Raspberry 4 waiting for Raspberry 5.
Now I have to wait for the second revision so as to not get the lemon 1st version.
Then I'll wait for the price to come down.
Then Raspberry 6 will come out and I'll wait for that instead.
I get to wait and rest from all that waiting.
Heh, there's always a new shiny version on the horizon!
There is no reason to go beyond pi 3
Wow this has to be one of the fist videos on the CM5. Respect Jeff.
🤜🤛
@@JeffGeerling LoL, well done 😂😂
Even a quick google search for "raspberry pi cm5" right before watching this video had Jeff's blog on the topic on the very top of the results, even above the official Raspberry Pi websites. Excited to see what Jeff can do in the future with this!
Yeah, I think distributors weren't shipping until this week, so @JeffGerling must have gotten (well-deserved) unit(s) directly from Raspberry Pi Plc. Mine are with courier right now.
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I'm so glad they maintained compatibility with the CM4.
It's great that this is a drop-in replacement on the Super6C! I did try to run Ceph on that in the past, but my experience has been that it is seriously hampered by the 1-Gbe switch; Ceph really needs more bandwidth than that. Unfortunately, as you said earlier in the video; despite the CM5 theoretically having all this bandwidth, there is no way to get it out of the module on the Super6C. I would love to see a Super6C with a 2.5 or 5 Gbe switch chip on it.
Ditto! DeskPi's been pretty good about updating based on community feedback (like they've tweaked their 10" rack accessories a bit since they launched!). Hopefully they can do that (at least 2.5 Gbps...).
It would be nice to know if any of the control features (via I2C interface on the chip) are wired into the Super6C anywhere at all - from what I see on-line, the RTL8370N ether controller will switch 16Gbps worth of traffic and will do 9k jumbo frames at that. (The other throughput figure I see is 11.9Mpps@64bytes.) So, one should be able to push a reasonable amount of traffic among the nodes - and this is easy to test. It has been suggested that the chip only does "Balanced-XOR" teaming, but I don't find any suggestion of that in its datasheet. There's at least one undocumented feature of the board - it has a four-pin 5V aRGB LED interface populated on the board. I haven't tried plugging anything in to it, but I did read 5V on the appropriate pin one of the times I had it open.
This needs to be the standard form factor around the industry. How about an all-in-one where you can upgrade the computer without throwing away a perfectly good monitor? How about a miniITX carrier board? Manufacturers should adopt this form factor across the board to reduce solid waste.
There are even larger SoM standards like COM-HPC for faster processors. It's be cool to have more upgradable stuff. But it saves money and keeps obsolescence going to just solder everything to the final product :(
I just can't handle that much performance. My brain still works well with RPI 2040.
"264 KB [of SRAM] is enough for anyone!"
The RP2040 is a very versatile chip. If only the RP2350 didn't have the stupid errata E9 bug because it would otherwise be a true no-brainer upgrade.
@@jimtekkitThanks for your comment, really.
@@JeffGeerling I got was able to fill up the RP2040 SRAM in C, so it can be a limit 😂.
The CM4 shortage slapped me back to reality and taught me that a N100 mini pc is cheaper, more reliable and better in every single aspect....Not to mention the time I saved from all the relentless surgical tinkering required just to make things work. Good video though!
it is not the same, but if it worked for you, well
The N100 is faster, but if memory serves is it as efficient in terms of performance per watt? Also still not as small as there RPi but it's close.
I'd love to see an Intel or AMD CPU using the compute module form factor. Seems like they would make bank with it.
@TonyOstrich those units exist, but cost is 3 times or more
look for dfi with amd cpu in sbc form, there are n100 cpus on radxa boards, same problem
radxa has many other solutions
@@betag24cn It costs less. I got 16GB RAM/512 GB ROM N100 mini PC on AliExpress for ~150 EUR including power adapter, monitor mount, case, storage...
A complete N100 mini PC is cheaper than a PI compute module? That seems...unlikely.
i have no idea what this video is about i have no idea of any terms or the point but i really enjoyed waching small pc go brr
Imagine an Apple M4 Compute module. Just the wicked factor in that. They'd make bank all the posh appliance could say running on apple
I would LOOOOVE an SBC-form-factor M4.
Only 599, would require proprietary power supply & accessory adapters + will burn itself out while idling
If Apple put in some active ongoing support or mainlined everything needed (so in theory the community can keep support up) to run the M4 based SOM that would be really interesting. But I rather suspect it would also be so expensive almost everyone that wants a SOM wouldn't want to pay that much...
If Steve Wozniak ran Apple, there'd be an Apple Pi.
@@JohnPMiller he's still alive, can return if needed
This is one of your best videos. Only thing missing was a black turtleneck
And neck beard.
I’ve kinda wished that they also would’ve made a version without the RP1 and giving us the 4 PCIe lanes of the RP1. :)
Ditto :(
But then all their camera/display/GPIO stuff would need to be reworked, so I can't see that happening.
I've been playing around with the idea of connecting the RP1 to the exposed PCIe port instead (over only one lane) and exposing the 4 lanes used by the RP1 for something else, but getting that to work beyond Gen1 speeds would be a bit more tricky. And I'd have to sacrifice a pi 5 to try it.
@@coreforge I'm happy to support the cause :)
I'd be willing to sponsor a few Pi 5s for that-also for trying to build your own RP1 PCIe card that could slot into a PC!
@@JeffGeerling damn didn’t consider that it would also affect CAM, Display, (Ethernet?). I could live without GPIO.
But we all know the Pi community. Its not a question if but when somebody got the “bright” idea to desolder the RP1 and replaced it with a PCIe switch or something like that.
@@coreforge sound like a great idea! I don’t have the money to sponsor such a Project but I will provide encurgragement to Perdue it!
8 terabyte drives, Jesus I know time flies and all but seriously it was not that long ago that the first 1 gig hard drives arrived. About 28 years from there to here. I remember reading an article from the 70's where IBM was promising that "one day" they hoped to make hard drives as cheap as a dollar a megabyte! which would mean your 8 terabyte hard drive would cost 8 million dollars :D
the most cool promise from IBM was the unification of the hierarchy of cache memory. Maybe with HBM "memory" that could happen, yeah, lets just use static RAM for everything, who cars about cost. AI gives infinite money from VC anyway
My first DOS computer (386/33 I think?) I built from scrap had a whole 1 MB of RAM, and I thought that was pretty awesome. Even upgraded to like 4MB so I could play DOOM.
Kudos for reading all your comments, can't wait for the 16gb varient 😁
Supposedly it will come 'early 2025'. Hope to test that, since I might get games like Forza Horizon 4 running!
Thanks Jeff, I really appreciate the time and thoroughness you put into your videos!
I don't think you really mean it changes EVERYTHING. My collection of underpants haven't changed since this came out, for example.
Mine have!
I got ahold of one of these and can contest, I haven't changed my babies diaper in a week, I presume it's working.
Jeff soaking up all the CM5 production already!
We can't do without Jeff Geerling! I really want to buy a few red shirts to pay tribute to Jeff and give them to my colleagues, haha. The video quality is really great!!
Obviously someone industrious needs to make an external GPU holder with power supply, and compute module IO board "all-in-one" solution. Just drop in your compute module and video card. Alternatively GPU manufacturers could just put a compute module interface on the back of video cards. They could even make compute modules without integrated GPUs to make them cheaper and expose more lanes to the e-gpu. That would be an awesome, low power, solution for AI systems.
Im here fawining over the CM5 knowing well that my 3B+ is more than enough for my Camera SDR setup.
If it works, it works! And that setup probably uses a tiny bit less power, too. Never a bad thing!
Another advantage to the CM is that you can choose where the connectors are. For including it in a product the basic Pi has awkwardly placed connectors that are sure to need internal cables or worse, putting it on a motherboard pcb AND having internal cables.
And having ribbon cables flying around everywhere. Always annoying in an integrated device!
Was waiting for this to drop - I knew immediately what it was from thumbnail
Thanks for the geekbench results. Looks as if single-core performance on the CM5 vs the RK1 is approximately equal, but multi-core performance on a 32GB RK1 is twice as high as what the 8GB CM5 scored. (n.b. I haven't tried to tweak any of my results - best case, I killed a couple of non-essential services on the machines. A true speed-run would be running on a stripped kernel with just enough system to drive the storage and tty.)
A router board with this would be interesting. Yes, there are loads of these already, but not with the support that Raspberries enjoy.
To me, "software support" doesn't mean wide selection of OS images, but all drivers being available upstream and support in independent (downstream) distributions.
This might be an interesting upgrade for my uConsole - which has the CM4 in it
That's one board I'd love to see with CM5. Hopefully it'll work!
@@JeffGeerling I can see there are a few pins which now do something different between the CM4 & CM5 but I think (would need to check) those aren't used by the uConsole so I think it should work
@@PeterMountUK That’s a very cool board! I thought it’s a retro gaming setup; but it seems much cooler.
In my case, I have a GPiCase2. Wonky initial software setup aside (rather hacky bash and Python scripts), it’s pretty cool - dockable HDMI output, but with built in display over DPI (lowres, but that’s fine), and - importantly - a battery.
Issue? Well, lack of analog inputs. D-pad is there, start/select, ABXY, L1/R1, two bonus buttons, “off” switch (a software command) and a reset button. Missing? Analog sticks or triggers. Otherwise, it would be a perfectly serviceable streaming device, plus a nice target for devs willing to target very lightweight devices.
Of course, uConsole seems even more impressive - portable terminal? Yes, please. And it seems to have DPad+ABXY+L/R. I don’t know where the analog sticks would go, but I’d like them so much on it.
(Assembling a Retro Lite is beyond my expertise or at the very least time constraints.)
How’s your impression of the speed of typing on uConsole compared to current mobile keyboards?
this Turkey Day, I'm thankful for Jeff Geerling! This was a massive video, cramming at least 45 minutes of content into 15 minutes. Even though the channel covers big variety of stuff nowadays, he's still the best "Raspberry Pi Guy" ;)
Indeed, this was a very packed report on cm5. Great work.
watched at 1.5x and it's over in 10min even 🙂
I subbed for duel with the time lord
New Jeff video right after midnight?? Ohhhhhhhhh. Really nice that it's so compatible and they held the line on pricing! Turing Pi is running a BF Sale for the next five days - only 10% off for the 32GB RK1 module, but hey, it's a discount.
I would like to see more about CM5 for routers with 4 lan ports or more and WiFi 🛜, I tired of trying to convert a store bought router into something better.
I am excited for the CM5! Thanks for the great video Jeff.
I perked up when you mention Kubernetes.... Better than the N100 and can run Ubuntu Server(?). Related but a side note, love to see a video of how to get cheap nodes with low res graphics, doesn't come with Windohs 11 preinstalled, got at least 8GB, PCIe and a 2.5G ethernet. I bought 3 'stick' computers for my lab last week and had to pay the $20 Microsoft tax (like the old OEM days).. thanks for this though, really good info.
I’ve been watching these tech videos for a while, but what the heck is a “time lord” lol, that threw me for a loop. I didn’t know Pi Time Travel was a thing yet. For them, it doesn’t matter what the specs are, but when.
"I've been tinkering with time here at the studio" well, that's ominous
Can't wait, been struggling to source a CM4 for months
rpi locator website has lots of CM4 in stock in US. Is this because you're in a country with less access?
@CrkdLtrN yes, New Zealand, the only retail suppliers of RPi here don't sell CM4s and we can only rely on online retailers like Digikey, which have rarely been able to keep any in stock, granted I haven't checked in a little while, it's likely I'd be able to find some now, but I was wondering if it was worth waiting for a CM5 release.
@JeffGeerling do you plan to test the CM5 on the Turing Pi? I‘m curious if it can be dropped in where CM4 modules had been running on the TPi before.
Haven't had time for that testing, but hope to pop one in on a carrier board in my TP2 cluster soon. Note that I have the older 2.5 revision board (I think? Maybe 2.3?), there's a newer Turing Pi 2 revision out there now.
@@JeffGeerling they sell versions 2 and 2.5 now. Sounds like you may have a content creator’s sneak preview version of the 2.5.
@@slimhazard Ah, just checked the Turing Pi site-the board I have is from more than a year ago. The 2.5 is just finishing up production! It has a number of tweaks to make use a little easier, but I don't have one of those. I have an old (now non-functional) prototype, and a Kickstarter version I got after backing it.
@@JeffGeerling I'd be very interested in that test, too. Still didn't get any boards for my kickstarter-TP2 yet and continued playing with my TP1. Maybe this is the perfect reason to upgrade :-D
@@Tobias-G you could always upgrade your TP1 with the CM4 version of the Compute Module 3, which is known as the CM4S. Same form-factor, but with CM4 components on-board. Storage runs from the Lite model with no on-board eMMC through 32GB eMMC variants.
I'm just happy that they've built a case with the io board, so now it's a normal pi but with all the ports on one side. Prettier under a TV or on a desk. Dunno whether I will splash out again just for that though
Looking forward to the time lord duel
timey wimey ...stuff!
I only recently started using a Raspberry Pi 5 as a mini home server (network enabled Time Machine for Mac, Plex, VPN, etc.) using Umbrel OS. The extra features of the CM5's IO board compared to a standard RPi5 makes a very compelling argument for an upgrade since improved USB speeds and onboard M.2 storage would both improve load times. I love it!
Thanks for this information and well crafted video.
I hope this board will be compatible with my new ClockworkPi Uconsole that now uses a CM4!
Have a great day!
A NAS with one of these at the heart is now a workable solution with no drawbacks for data warehousing of media files and backups.
Is it compatible with the Home Assistant Yellow?
Good question, and I need to test and see!
Just got my kit in the mail with a CM4, already shopping for an upgrade before it's built 😂
It looks like CM5 support is in the works, at least as far as is publicly available on the Home Assistant OS GitHub repository.
Keep in mind this is currently development work and not a promise of support, I'm also not affiliated with the project so I can't speak on their behalf.
@@Thomas-Larsen Just tested it, it works! See my blog for more :)
@@JeffGeerlingyeah I saw it linked in one of the threads on the home assistant discord as well as the announcement itself. I guess hailo is all the rage now but I assume we can use the Coral m.2 TPU now?
I can't wait to test it on the 16GB model supposedly coming in February 😅
Great job on the video Jeff! Thanks for making it.
I thought the CM5 would have 4x PCI-E lanes for some reason
It technically has 5! But 4 of them are routed straight into the RP1 chip.
@@JeffGeerling According to the device tree, the BCM2712 even has 6 (two x1 ports). No idea where the second x1 port is though.
@@coreforge My guess is that was 'dark silicon', used in some Broadcom-specific device, because it's never been exposed on a Pi device (yet, at least). I'm wondering if it was dropped in the chip's D0 stepping.
Same here. Wonder if someone is capable of doing some surgery to the RP1 pins and leave it with just one data lane.
This channel is so much better now that there's a realistic chance of actually obtaining some of these bits. Hope you are doing well Jeff.
Yeah that really hurt when they launched CM4. I was so excited about all the projects... then realized so few individuals could get their hands on them :(
Hopefully Raspberry Pi produces a ton of these and gets them into retail channels quickly (so far it's been a trickle, but it's only been a couple days, so quite normal for any Pi launch).
I really need a 16 GB RAM model. Long story, too much data.... Crossing fingers.
I would like one to see if I can get Forza Horizon 4 running. It was *so* close on the Pi 5 8GB!
@@JeffGeerling I need to store 60k ~5000 word documents plus audio (each representing about a minute of spontaneous speech) in a python dict, and then run multiprocessing on each core (can't thread, a longer story) for a half dozen different statistical things, including wav2vec2phoneme. Are there any competing boards available now that already have 16G RAM?
Edit: thinking about this suggests a way I can fit it in 8 gigs, which is probably what I should do if not.
Edit2: on third thought, I can push far more stuff that doesn't need to be in RAM to disk without tolling the most costly inner loops. But I am still curious as to whether there are any 16G competitors, clones or otherwise (as long as pip3's toolchain works). I should probably fix the dict bloat either way.
Jeff, we are looking for a dual channel of RAM but it does not make sense to go with 32-bit data bus of the RAM. Here are two options. The first option is to have 64-bit RAM with a single channel but it is still not challenging enough. The second option is to have two 64-bit chips of RAM which would be dual channel but we do not have enough space on the PCB board, or this RAM would be embedded on the SoC chip. The enterprise technologies mostly operate with memory, and the ALU operations do not happen so often. The CPU bus speed and RAM matters for the enterprise. After these improvements, we can even compare with the ordinal laptops which already use the dual channels or even 4 channels of RAM and more.
The pain of clicking on yet another "changes everything" video...
Downvote every one
Commented before watching the video.....
"What exactly CHANGES EVERYTHING here?"
"Uhhh...It's faster than the rpi 5 lmao"
The universal 'click me' / clickbait energy of RUclips is disgusting. Trying to hook an audience with stupid, cliche lines, just pisses audiences in mass off with useless information, if you can even call it that. Everything can't be 'changes everything', groundbreaking, insane, crazy, 'you won't believe', 'must watch'. Give us the information like you would a friend, and stop there.
Sensationalizing everything is a scummy practice everyone universally hates and everyone should stop trying to shove it into everything.
No creator is immune from clickbait
“My GPU Is the Computer”!
Oh yes, yes please!
10:22 hahaha love the extra Dr. Who references lol.
I may have missed it in the video but did you test if the BliKVM v2 PCIE card supports the CM5?
Did not directly test it yet. Hope to soon, though!
Still waiting for my Compute blade, but now I am tempted to get a 16GB model CM5 to test out it capabilities! Awesome video like always! Can't wait to see what new boards come out for this. Need a NAS board. Wonder if the next generation is going to add another row of pins like other boards to help with bandwidth. Hope we see better PCIE bandwidth.
Still no suspend to ram which has generally worked in linux for at least two decades :(
The CM5 with PCI 3.0 and all the I/O upgrades opens up a lot of opportunities. May grab one if I can think of a use case for it.
Only thing missing is that extra PCI-E lane on the SoC which still remains unused. Would really help with a lot of things like GPUs, SSDs and 10G network cards.
Tried the CM4 on the CM5 IO Board? 🤔
That's... actually a great question! I tried the CM5 on the CM4 IO Board (you have to supply a different DTB to get everything working), but didn't try the reverse. I *assume* it should just work, since the only major difference is the USB 3.0 data lines would route into two of the Camera/Display connectors...
Have you tested the performance of the Radxa board for LLMs? The NPU embedded should provide better speeds (considering if models could be made to work at all using any of the GPU/NPU combinations)
Would CM5 help with improving RPI5 NAS you made?
It would certainly be easier for a company to design an integrated solution. I hope Radxa can resurrect their 'Taco' design for an updated Pi CM5 NAS!
@@JeffGeerling Ah, I see. I need to check out their "Taco" design! Would be nice more companies to make NAS solutions from CM5.
I've tried buying Radxa SATA HAT, which you used for Pi NAS and it's sold out everywhere.
Lets appreciate how that tiny thing is faster than any computer 20yrs ago, those of us who were here using windows 98, this kinda performance back then was science fiction.
soon Raspberry Pi zero 3w with 1/2gb ram 🤩
I would loooove that. Or at least Zero 2W with 1/2GB!
This is what I really am looking forward to as well. Easier to integrate than the CM boards.
Gosh I really appreciate the work you do to share the latest updates and test everything you can! Just ordered a CM5 kit I’m excited to see if it works with my farm robot motherboard.
This tiny pi is better than my school laptop 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I love that these exist. Not sure when I'd use one, but they're super cool little slices of computronium.
Finally the CM5!
I wish for a carrier board (ideally for CM5 gen) that has true mini-itx form factor and that can be a drop in replacement for regular PC hardware.
this would be perfect for those that want to build low power PCs for their familly or repurpose existing hardware, but don't want to invest/rely in custom built casing, etc...
My use case would be turning my PC into a NAS and replacing the high power consumption of first gen ryzen to something that can easily be passively cooled or cooled by the case fan.
there also would be the option to use cases like the jonsbo N-series to build powerful, yet generationally upgradable ARM NAS. (especially with that Radxa board, the idle power consumption makes it a perfect candidate for a device that will idle most of the day/night).
Radxa has their RK3588 ITX board, it is certainly an interesting option! The CM5 could make for an upgradable platform, too. I'd love to see it.
Who is that timelord ?
Dr. Demetrios Matsakis!
Ordered one as soon as I saw the post on Reddit this morning. Glad I’m on the east coast and got through in time.
Have to agree with everybody on that the title should at least mention the CM5. For somebody who doesn’t want to be known as “the Raspberry Pi guy” you sure seem to have a lot to gain from these RPI videos to use clickbait titles like that…
For some reason I find the time server incredibly interesting, I look forward to your video on that. Regardless, thanks for all of your hard work, always super jazzed when I see a new vid pop up on my subscription feed. Let's give Jeff a round of applause!
It’s a shame that this title will get more views than just saying what the video is actually about.
I knew it was about the CM5 the moment I saw the thumbnail. YT is a business. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
@@acidicgenegaming don’t hate the billionaires, hate capitalism!
@@acidicgenegaming Yea, I don't blame Jeff.
The breakout board is awesome, I would prefer that and the CM5 over a standard Pi5, I like the IO all being on one side, and the ability to use an MVME drive on it directly, I could design and print a nice media player or emulator case for it.
This title is clickbait. Come on Jeff, you can do more than that.
I absolutely despise RUclips click bait titles. I wish they were more descriptive so we actually know what the episode is about. Same with ever channel tho :(
It's not clickbait if you appreciate every Jeff video and watch them all anyway ;) Blame the platform/algorithm rather than the creator is my view.
That's why power users subscribe to the blog ;)
No clickbait required, plus all the graphs for days! I also don't make a dime off the blog, but that's not why I write!
@@JeffGeerlinggrifters grift. 🤷
@@JeffGeerlingplease just title your videos normally again. It's so annoying.
I so want the compute blade to finally be available for general purchase in the US. I think it's such a cool little board, and I had a similar idea before I even saw you feature it lol. I was trying to come up with a way to stack like 14ish rasp pi's in a 19-inch rack (I determined I could get 14 decently squeezed in with enough space for airflow IIRC).
Hello Jeff! We are designing an expansion board based on the CM5, featuring rich functionalities and ease of use-perfect for makers and developers. We’d be happy to send you a sample for unboxing and review to share your experience. Would you be interested? Looking forward to hearing from you! 😊
I’ve sent an email hope you have a chance to check it. If convenient, I look forward to your reply. Thank you so much! 😊
I'd love to see CEPH performance. Having a small and cheap CEPH cluster for home would be a game changer.
It doesn't change war. War never changes.
ok emo
ok emo
THANK YOU for the memcpy numbers on an RK3588 board. I’ve been following coverage of them for years and nobody ever measures the memory bandwidth so I’ve never been sure how fast he memory is
"Very fast" :D
This is the computer I’ve been waiting for. Finally, it’s time to build my Cyberdeck motherboard.
"Smaller than a credit card" has got to be the worst marketing BS. It's like saying a bus is bigger than a car because you look at it head on. Go put it in a card holder. I'll wait.
Not an attack at you. The content is good. Just a stupid tech pet peeve.
i just placed my order for the CM5 dev kit
This board with one or two M.2 drives not only makes a perfect small NAS not for a home or small office, but also to carry around!
I were looking for a small NAS to save some movies and pics, but I this is a pretty neat alternative :D
Apple should learn at least
$100 raspberry Pi support external GPU
Where Apple $50k mac pro don't
Raspberry Pi do what Apple don't!
@@JeffGeerlingRaspberry > Apple
Take that!
That’s what I’ve been saying for a while now! Ampare and Rpi can support edGPUs, but Apple can’t? Make it make sense!
Have you ever tested a concerto set up using the NEC display? We have a server running concerto in our data center and then raspberry pis as the clients. They boot into a full screen browser with a specific URL that connects them to the server. We are able to run multiple different streams fro multiple campuses and buildings. And it all replaced a expensive signage system, though there is more management than those paid for systems.
Haven't tried Concerto before, unfortunately.
I’m still waiting for my compute blade to ship :|
Ditto, though I still have my early dev versions to keep me company :(
I hope they get the things out in the US soon. I've been waiting for a project for a very long time.
Had plans to setup a mini blade cluster (4x blades), combined costs were too high and the availability of these blades being non-existent... I got myself a Lenovo M720q with a 4 port Intel nic (real one) and put Proxmox on it (going to get a second setup soon to cluster it). Way cheaper and instant availability.
These blades appears to be "cool" but...
I did ask on their Discord channel, "from your official website, when and how much?". Response was: "we will not sell directly to the public, you will have to buy from a reseller."
I left the Discord shortly after reading this and thought... yeah, f...k it.
I don't know if you hear this much
Mate you are one cool dude
That T-shirt is bloody hilarious
I like your work and I appreciate it
10:20 Wibbly Wobbly
Also the Korg Wavestate, Modwave and Opsix Synthesizers are based on the Compute Modules.
12:40 “butter-smooth“ - is that some St. Louis lingo I haven‘t picked up on the channel before, or is this something the Kids These Days are saying?
Just a thing I used to hear a lot; back in early Playstation/GameCube era, I remember when a game rendered without stutters, at least some people would call that "buttery smooth" :)
But I may have also just been hungry when writing that line! Mmm toasty!
I have heard this all over the internet. So I think it's not a St. Louis exclusive.
Jeez… “butter smooth” goes WAY back, I heard it in the 60’s.
Hi, I have some questions:
1. Can you build a Linux smartphone with the CM5? with screen, battery, cooling etc
2. I am new to all the RPI things, can you explain for what we need the CM5 and for what the regular RPI5?
3. So if I want to use the CM5 I need to use the Carriers right?
4. In general - do you know about a good power bank or chargeable battery that can use for RPI5 (and the CM5) for traveling?
Thanks a lot for your videos : )
I want a carrier board that'll help me make a RPi5 tablet.
@jeffgeerling I'm also interested in building a Linux ARM tablet using the CM5. I want a low-power Surface substitute that gives me enough performance for working while traveling. It's been possible to make a Raspberry Pi tablet for years now, but I haven't found a carrier board that would allow me to keep the profile thin. Also, CM4 performance wasn't cutting it for me. The CM5 would be just right.
I think a carrier board with an NVME slot, an SD card slot, two type C ports, a socket for a 3.7v slim LiPo battery (with the appropriate battery management), DSI sockets for the display and webcam, a slot for an LTE/5G radio, a power button, and no headers would work well for my needs. I hope someone makes this board.
I've been looking for an ITX or mATX carrier board for ages. I want to be able to easily put the RPI into standard form factor PC cases.
Ugh, that title alone is worth a thumbs down.
After watching this video, I've just gotta believe that Jeff is the smartest guy on RUclips.
FINALLYYYYYYY
(X led me here @ 2AM...)
Wandering slowly through X in the early morning lol
@@JeffGeerling best place to be (other than YT) when bored, am i right?
Excited to pop this into my spare Turing pi slot 👀
RK3588 is faster and better documented.
yes
It's a seriously OP chip!
I mentioned in the clustering section how the RK1 still holds the SBC Cluster King crown, and how the RK3588S2 on the Radxa CM5 crushes the Pi CM5 in almost every benchmark (and efficiency!) :)