I am curious about this. Does leaving your computer on idling (which is the cause of the Pre-Built PCs not being eligible for some states) cost more power or less power than the ridiculously inefficient baseboard heaters? Edit: and more specifically can it keep a room as warm in the winter as the baseboard heaters?
@@wraht baseboard heaters heat way more. Much bigger surface area. A Pc can heat up a 10x10 room just at a much slower rate, if there is no ventilation.
@@Joe_1776 my room has no ventilation at all if I don't open a window and door so usually my room can get a little warm after my pc Being on is nice in winter but doesn't do much
I mainly use celsius days. the conversion between them gets pretty confusing at times since its (Cx9/5)+32=F. so you get funky stuff like -40c = -40f. I also wish we would have switched to the metric system... just moving decmials to go for distance and weights. vs the convulted distance and other mesaurements I had to grow up learning to remember how to convert them....
@@cezarnebun9607 I mean telling a joke off of one sentence online is a toss up.You never know about what someone might know. I wpuld not be surprised at all if someone didn't know what Celsius was, which is why I started the sentence the way I did.
“How to keep your PC from heating up your room” Simple! Put the PC in a different room and run long cables. Now it heats up a different room and doesn’t matter how loud it is
This is a strategy I've always wanted to implement maybe one day when thunderbolt is more readily available and not so finnicky. I know linus did it with his house. I know you can run individual cables but the lengths of some Cables can be a problem for staying functional (like hdmi 2.1 over 15ft for example)
@@TJ.85 you can boost that signal thought i have a hdmi signal booster un powered for my VR setup but i also can power the same booster if i want to run stupid length of hdmi
Ideally, the thing should be in the bathroom then... But basically I already have my PC heating up another room when playing VR stuff on my Quest with VD.
I’m in England - warming my room is a happy benefit for most of the year. As a younger person playing on a Commodore 64 back in the day, I’d use the power brick to keep my feet warm…
@@RBMDragon no, they're both in the northern hemisphere so summer in uk is summer in California. It's only winter in southern hemisphere like Australia
I used to have a big issue with room heat in my old place 4 years ago. My PC was definitely the biggest reason for it but also that room getting morning/afternoon sun.
@@brianfox340 i got a new room walls and black out curtains but the window itself got up to 95 degrees so had to rethink that and covered the windows lol
Also keep in mind that your monitor(s) pump out heat as well. The larger the screen, the more heat it produces. Luckily the days of 300-400w plasmas are behind us
When I was younger and pretty broke I had a 50" Sony Bravia tv that kept me from freezing to death in the winter. I couldn't afford heat but that kept me warm enough to not die.
I just bought a new Sony A9G 4k OLED a few weeks ago and the first thing I noticed when I walked by my TV for the first time was the huge amount of heat it gave off. Even 2ft away you could feel it.
Years ago my gaming room was a closet on the first floor of the house, typically the room would exceed 100 degrees F. I needed to get inventive, gaming in a sauna was not sustainable. My systems have always been fully water cooled (early adopter from the Koolance days). So, I drilled 2 one inch holes through the floor into the basement. Mounted a triple 360 radiator in the joists below the game room and mounted 3 120mm fans. Threaded the tubing and wiring from the PC to the radiator, I used some Koolance quick connects through the case. Bingo, I was back to a 70 degree work/play space.
I once tested this in my loft room; I closed the skylight and fired up cyberpunk (with a 3090 in my system); after 1 hour it was a sauna-like experience.
Same. And it happens even when remote working, having desktop ON whole day. Thankfully dont have to keep door closed whole day, and it's getting finally colder here.
dude, if the room is small you could purchase a releativly cheap air conditioner. Its a god send device it could be around 400-500 USD with instalation.
It's already a proven factor that it takes water cooling a lot longer time to heat up vs air cooler. The air cooler heats up faster will make your room hotter faster. Water cooling takes a lot longer to heat up so it will take a longer time to heat up your room. Another factor is that heaters are basically air cooler. It heats up the the metals and a fan blows the hot air out. If water cooling is better at producing heat, then for sure they will add water to a heater and have the fan blow out hot air to make it produce more heat faster. But they don't do that for a reason because now it will take a lot longer time for that heater to produce heat because it has to heat up the water plus the metal at the same time to start making heat.
@@InfiniteBeingX I literally began having a stoke from even attempting to understand your logic. It takes a two and a half minutes for a 5900x and a 3080 to get two 360mm rads up to temp, How often are you only playing games for that long? It literally doesn't matter how you cool your PC... The components use a specific amount of power, and a specific amount of that power gets turned into heat. Only thing you can do to get it to put off less heat is to get it to use less power (underclocking and undervolting)
he's owned by the left, he cares about the enviornment more than he cares about productivity. it's the fairytopiaunicorn land where making a living doesn't matter, you can just be a bum on the beach to survive.
I see why Linus goes with Server Racks for his PCs, having the heat in a seperate room really helps. Same thing with whole room watercooling series they made a few years ago, it is always a good watch even if it is older and not really practical.
Actually i remember seeing a build where the watercooling components were on a different room and they wired a tube into the computer. It was something like. PC --- Wall outlets --- Different room --- Radiators and pump
This has got to be one of if not (and imo) the best channel on RUclips to learn about PC's HANDS DOWN! Awesome work, always with the most essential in depth amount of detail for anyone looking to learn more about their PC system. GREAT WORK!
@@mikaeln887 I just returned my gigabyte psu after seeing that my psu was the exact same model that gamers nexus was talking about. Got a corsair rm 850 so I don't have to worry anymore
It's not an explosion! It's just our new heat lowering feature! If you use your psu the thermal throttling feature kicks in, reducing long-term heat output by 100%!* *assuming your case is inflamable, results may vary
Hey Jay, just want to say that I appreciate that you always mention heat in Celsius, either in text or saying it aloud. It really helps all non-Americans(I.e. rest of the world).
Indeed. Didn't mind at all that the spoken 40 and written 38 were not the same, it was in the same ballpark, and it was getting the idea though, unlike 100 degrees which is for me boiling water XD Thanks for the video!
i went to florida in February and got the best tan of my life i can conclude florida does not know winter. im pretty sure it was only like 80-85 degrees too the sun just hits different down there haha
Blowing air out the door helps alot I do that every time i know im gonna be gaming for a long period. Another tip i can suggest, reduce monitor brightness, get energy efficient light bulbs if you play with the lights on, or try play with lights off. I mean with the brightness of the monitor lower and in the dark should help adjust. Maybe if you play in the day in the summer, get reflective curtains. *Edit:Try to hydrate yourself, and try wear something make you feel cool, and help tolerate the heat. These are some small things you can do but they all add up.
About monitors and lights, try to set it up so there is lighting _in the back._ While for some it may be distracting, ambient lighting is suppose to help reduce eyestrain by removing the contrast between your light-generating display monitor and the surrounding environment.
Led bulbs use next no electric...a led monitor also uses hardly anything...if you want to save money or temps...then undervolt you gpu...dont overclock...
The clothing comment is the same flawed argument as the cooler cpu/gpu tho. You generate heat regardless of if you are wearing a jacket or not. The jacket only prevents the heat from leaving your body and entering the room in the same way as having the pc case with the fans off for example.
If you don’t want to open the door you can always install a return air grill in the door or ABOVE the door (hot air rises) and that will help with return air quite a bit. You can also install a jumper duct for a return air duct if you don’t like the other suggestion but getting that hot air out has to happen in order for cold air to get back in and remove more heat. Search both of these returns on the tube and there are a few good ones out there.
A little disclaimer for the people trying undervolt for the first time: the undervolt might be stable while playing rasterized games but your card will probably crash while playing with raytracing on. So It is useful to have two profiles: one with a more aggressive undervolt profile for when you are not playing with RT on and another one that will probably run around stock voltage that is gonna be stable with RT games.
Eh ray tracing is kinda pointless still. Normal graphics are almost on par with ray tracing in games with already good graphics. Games like minecraft though it really shows.
@@iCore7Gaming Raytracing is same as any other technology - in the hands of people with no clue it is not useful, but even the performance of the RTX 2060 is more than enough to give you full global-illuminaiton at a fraction of the performance-impact traditional lighting method would have. Sadly - that is an application that does not lend it self to the "uh, it's shiny" marketing and is thus hardly ever pursued.
I had a fantastic undervolt that worked at any game settings, but as soon as I tried streaming using the nvenc encoder games started crashing. I’m back to stock now
Pro tip: High pressure fan blowing air out of the room (or window). However if you're streaming then you might want to turn some sort of voice filtering software/hardware on.
Because his videos covering new releases are the worst ratio'd and full of comments telling him he sucks because he got a review card. He addressed this weeks ago.
My room is 32c - 35c summer time, and using high cpu/gpu processing tasks heats it up even more. The advice given is spot on. Keep volts/clocks low in summer, and you can move it back up in winter time.
@@enigmaartista2981 For my video card I use MSI Afterburner and just lower the Temp Limit to where my FPS is still great. This will auto adjust the power limit to the video card and put out less heat. I've tried setting FPS hard cap in games but it still makes the card work harder and by doing this I find it lowered my card temps.
I find that setting your house fan to be always on while you're gaming helps to increase air exchange when your air conditioner is not cycling, and also setting your menu frame rates lower to something like 30 FPS will drop your clocks and give time for the room to cool off between matches.
Hey DeilGrist, i work for a mold company, dont do this, because your fan is always running without the AC on you are increase the moisture in your system, this in turn increases the chance of mold growth, what you'll end up having are moldy a/c coils and moldy AC ducts. Not good for your system and especially you.
@@firetraq oh is this true? My HVAC worker uncle told me the best option was to keep the house fan always on to keep it cool. He didnt mention mold. That's an interesting point to keep in mind. I wonder what the alternative is then
I love this kind of video. Things that are so common. scenes, you're probably overlooking it. Simple things to improve quality of life, and when you need to bite the bullet and buy an upgrade. Love to see more videos like this about gaming spaces and taking things for granted. How to properly set up your monitor. Room lighting. Clean a mouse ball. Furniture. Pet vs PC.
Living in AZ, we've done all of these tips. I have super old single pane windows so we've put aluminum to block out the outside heat and radiation on them. Next step is to find a small ac for our rooms so hopefully that helps. Ty for this video!
Check and see if you area governments are offering rebates/interest free loans for new windows. Lots of places are just to reduce the power needed to cool. Windows and insulation are normally part of it.
"Your hard drives and SSDs also put out a small amount of heat." Back in the day, around 1998, hard drives put out more than a "small amount" of heat. 9GB was a huge hard drive then, and I got a 10,000 RPM IBM drive, a HALF HEIGHT (yes, an inch and a half tall) monster chunk of steel that was super heavy, super loud, and ran so hot I had to fabricate a heat sink for it, run it outside the case, and attach a fan to the heat sink... what a pain.
@@SkeleTonHammer Btw it’s also better for the ssd if it is at a warmer temperature (not to the point it starts overheating) than a colder temperature because it increases it’s longevity
My first 1 Gigabyte drive was a SCSI WD full-height 5" drive. It was loud and hot but hella fast for the time. I think I may still have it somewhere...
This really helps, I live in Iceland and even though that in the winter it sometimes touches -20 c° (-4° Fahrenheit) my 2070 super, Ryzen 7 5800x system absolutely boils my brain if I even dare to close the door. love your content Jay❤️ Been a huge fan for a long time :)
Other tips... If you have central A/C, putting other heat emitters, like routers and wifi access points, in another room, can help make your room run cooler. Each room has its own HVAC register, so if you spread your equipment out as much as you can, it will be easier for the central A/C to deal with it. That's especially useful if you have one room that's cool and one room that's hot.
All correct! Except the direction of door fan blowing air into/out of the room. Heat may flow from hot to cold but colder air is denser (e.g. see how cold/warm fronts move) and heat rises. The different densities means by just opening the door hotter air will flow out of the room near the top of the door and colder air will flow into the room near the bottom of the door; fan placement should aid this natural air movement instead of fight against it, e.g. fans on the floor blow in and fans hung at top of door frame blow out. By doing so, you more quickly and efficiently replace the hotter air in the room with colder air (i.e. increase ventilation).
If things get that bad everyone's going to start hooking up dryer exhausts from their PC to their window.....then you can open that door without tainting the rest of your house with that Heat Wave!
@@hawkshot1025 I guess my gpu doesn't support changing to adaptive, I just see normal and maximum performance. Which is a shame, my card gets really hot I could use an easy temp decrease.
For those who are weary about window units, use a standalone A/C unit that exhausts using a hose & adapter through the window. Its not as efficient as a window unit, but way more convenient for climate control such as using as a fan, dehumidifier, and my unit gets down to 61F output. I use it as a supplement when i work in my home office to my game room (as it rolls around on wheels). I would strongly advise against swamp coolers.
just make sure it has 2 hoses. single hose doesn't actually cool anything since it creates a pressure imbalance causing warm air to just seep back into the room
@codesymphony what does the 2nd hose do? I had one that only had 1 hose exhaust years ago in a condo when the main unit was dying. Makes sense. In our case I think it worked out since it pulled it much cooler air from the common hallway.
1) Automatic blinds: Reduce heat coming in from the outside. Popper HVAC are hard to install here due to building regulatins. (Standalone with exthaut hose, are a problem with my heating.) 2) If you life in a region with Brick houses, they can store a (relatively) big amount of heat. So if you reduce the heat coming in during the day, letting night air in can keep you comfortable, provided you let the air circulate trou the house. PS: And if you in a low level city building in a region where breakins have happened, the correct blinds can keep people out while still allowing a (small) amount of air in.
The standalone portable AC is what I have in my PC room, here's a tip: make sure the connection point of the exhaust hose to the back of the unit is sealed up with some duck tape. I finally realized the hose > bracket > back of unit connection was pretty ill fitting; it's just plastic that snaps together without a seal, and was venting a ton of hot air back into the room, also losing pressure for exhausting that hot air outside. A little duck tape solved that. Also, get a cheap survival blanket, the thin foil looking ones, at your local sporting goods dept, for a couple bucks. Wrap that around the exhaust hose and tape it in place. Doesn't need to be perfectly tight either. That mitigates the heat that would still otherwise radiate back into the room just from the hose. On a hot summer day, close to 100F, using an infrared thermometer, the hose outer surface was 115-120+F, but after wrapping it, it temped at ambient or slightly above - like 35-40 degrees cooler. I thought of that little hack earlier this summer after taping up the hose connection. Wrapping the hose made a significant improvement on top of that, to keeping the room much cooler.
To add to what Jay already said, I always thought to treat my AC-less room like a bigger PC case. I need air intake (window with fan blowing in), heat exhaust (2nd window and door with fans blowing out), and air circulation around the hottest components (desk/PC area).
From someone who lives in a hot country, keep your windows closed and curtains drawn during hot sunny days. Opening windows will just make things worse.
@@stuartfury3390 Absolutely and covering the windows to block the sun (more so than curtains) helps a ton too. Can get a bit hermit/recluse like after a bit though...
HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB HDD2: 1 TB CASE: AEROCOOL 800 SSD: MP 600 2TB PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@@crisnmaryfam7344 HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB HDD2: 1 TB CASE: AEROCOOL 800 SSD: MP 600 2TB PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
Here is a solution. Exhaust your case air directly outside of the room with an outdoor exhaust radiator, if you have a custom loop. Or use it for cooking!!!
I had this idea as well, however, if you go to far from your ambient temperture in the room, you can either get condensation if you go too cold outside or put heat INTO your loop if it's too warm outside. - one thing I HAVE thought about though is maybe plumbing a radiator onto the intake of my window air conditioner so that hot air is immediately exchanged through the air conditioner to the outside. Somehow, I don't think that's going to get spousal approval though heh. All I know is that right now my window air conditioner unit, in it's current configuration is NOT enough to exhaust the heat from my water cooled 3090 and 5950x and it often gets into the mid 80's (f) (I have a thermometer in the wall for my room). at the same time, my loop temp gets into the 40-43c range (which I honestly fear for the structural integrity of my PETG tubes). I'm really not sure what to do. I can't use an air conditioner over 500w because my system at peak takes up 1100w. (measured at the ups, includes displays and networking gear) and I don't want to pop my 15a breaker.) - I rent my place and can't make any electrical or permanent hvac upgrades)
@@joshhardin666 Well, if your system is water cooled, just put a radiator on a hole on your wall, ideally a 480mm with the hardware you've got, with some noctua fans. Realistically, with the caliber of PC components you have, you won't push heat into your system at all. Or just use that heat for cooking.... Lol
Having recently converted my shed into a gaming room, my main concern was the cold. I insulated the walls and ceilings with 100mm of Polystyrene but I had no idea how hot it would get in there with a 5600x/3070 system. The room is 2x2m and completely sealed. It can easily get up to 30c+ in there with the door shut. In the end, I got a couple of in-line extractor fans, put them in the garage (with joins onto the gaming shed) and bored through the walls. One in, one out. After a week, for the "out" fan, I ran ducting across the ceiling to above my gaming pc, which seems to have helped even more. Thanks to the insulation I put in, in our latest heat wave in the UK, the shed would be 20c when it was 30c outside, however, putting on the fans ended up heating the shed due to the "in" fan, filling it with 30c air. But in normal times, it works well for now.
A few tweaks will get it working well. Ideally you want the inlet to be as low as possible from a shaded area outside, the outlet should go to atmosphere. You could easily route the outlet through the garage wall, this will stop you circulating the warm air, your inlet will need a little more thought to suit your property. Hope that gives you a few ideas to improve 👍 I’m a plumber now but I used to do ducting and A/C installation.
Yeah insulation can become a double edged sword real quick. Where I live is warm pretty much most of the year, everyone learns their lesson trying to save money by turning off the AC when not home lol.. It takes so much to cool your house back down. Its better to just maintain it.
I've briefly looked into the possibility of exhausting the air from the rad outside the house somehow so that the room temperature isn't affected. It's possible but problematic. Basically I'd need to put an air box over the rad which would feed into a pipe with at least one fan helping to deal with the extra pressure. I'd need to vent into a space that isn't affected by wind pressure changes outside, the roof space is ideal. I want to do it but I've been too lazy to get started.
You ever try this? What you described is the same system that's used by portable ACs (not the shitty desktop ones, real ones that look like giant paper shredders)
I live in the desert of southern california, I have done all of the things you have said (besides reducing my overlock, because ive never actually done that because i dont fully understand how to do it safely). But the fan in the doorway works and so does buying a little window/portable ac unit. It gets to +120F where i live so my room gets pretty hot consistantly but i just open the door and put the fan there or ill turn on the little ac if i want to open the window and let the hot air in also.
I have a portable swamp cooler, and having a window cracked works best for exhaust. and having positive pressure using 2 sheets of toilet paper. ruclips.net/video/QMXBGYHiGes/видео.html
Try looking into getting a mini-split AC unit --- they can cool your room to nice temp and also be very minimal on noise --- they are pricier than window units but well worth it
@@Spazbo4 that LITERALLY doesn't help with room temp. Jay explained that in the video it helps your components run cooler but the same heat is pumped into the rad's and into your room so the room temp will actually get hot faster with any type of water cooling including aio's.
@@TJ.85 except the opposite happens when i swapped my gpu for one that has an aio. i can't explain why it happens but it helped my room to be 10F-15F degrees cooler in my room. it does get a little warmer when i have games running with vsync off, by about 5 degrees, but still much more bearable than when i had my rtx 3090FE in my main PC
Dude, skunkworks! I’ve been watching you since you had a “full-time job” and a full-time RUclips channel. You inspired me with skunkworks to become a builder. So, love me some skunkworks and that you brought it back.
In refridgeration I always describe it in terms of heat and lack of heat. Cold is a relative term whereas heat is actually referring to vibration of particles. I dont cool things I remove heat.
I've got my computer set up in the same room that my HVAC pulls air from in the basement 🤘😎🤘 keeping it reeeeeal chilly and automatically exchanging the air for me lol I didn't realize how lucky the setup was until watching this video. Thanks Jay!
HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB HDD2: 1 TB CASE: AEROCOOL 800 SSD: MP 600 2TB PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@@Exrimordonaj HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB HDD2: 1 TB CASE: AEROCOOL 800 SSD: MP 600 2TB PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@@shredderorokusaki3013 That's pretty scary hot for a gpu, you should really invest in an airflow case with beefy noctua fans or an aio. As well as get some ac pumping in there, wouldn't want to fry the vram on a new gpu when you get it. If a gt970 is getting that hot, you will likely fry a 3080ti in the same environment
@@haydn6462 i got this case in 2017 until then i had a 2006 case that kept it from 2006 until 2017 so gtx 970 worked for 2 years on the 11 years old case well and from 2017 until now it is on this case. I will also remove the two hdds when i get the card because i stopped using them since i got the mp 600 2tb ssd in juyly 2020.
Thanks for making this video Jay! I use to struggle with this problem at my old place. My room was always the hottest in the house with minimal ventilation. All I had to do was turn the fan around. New game setup is in the basement and is naturally cool. Still had to watch this whole video because my past self needed to hear this! Cheers!
@@patrickh92able Yeah unless the rest of your house is smaller than your room, which makes zero sense, then you will not notice that affect occur at all. Your A/C in your house, if you have a central heating system, will far output the relatively small amount of heat generated by your computer, I'd imagine.
Jay I’m impressed on your hvac knowledge, I get plenty of customers complaining the ac isnt cooling well in some rooms. I go in there and there’s a 50” tv a pc, monitor and a console going at once with the door closed😂🤦♂️ 🥵
Oh my god, this video hits the nail on the head. I live in the Caribbean and it gets pretty toasty and since most Caribbean countries are developing countries not everyone can't afford AC everywhere. My room is located on the other side of house where whenever it's after 1-3pm the sun just goes ham and absolutely blasts my room. Concrete tends to trap heat and you can literally feel the difference in temperature when you leave or enter my room. I find my self gaming at nights with my curtains pulled, windows open, door open and a fan running. My room gets up to 32 °C as well, it just sucks.
lol jokes on you. I use it to heat my room when its cold in the winter and save on heating my place. In the summer im usually out and about and not at my computer.
My wife and I just bought a three bedroom house. We decided the second bedroom is a guest room just in case a relative decided to come visit us from out of town but had a hard time deciding what the third room is for. I wanted a game room but my wife wanted a sauna. So we compromised and it worked out just fine. My PC generate enough heat in that room to make my wife happy.
This for sure, when I was in North Dakota I could just crack my window and instantly comfortable during winter. This region doesn't really have winter.
Yeah im in the Philippines so...my water loop gets to 80C over time, like a day of running something that uses 100% GPU and ~180 watts showing in wattman, its 30C here almost all the time and 80% humidity... the extra heat from the system doesnt help the comfort levels in the room :)
I wish I lived in a cool place :(. Here (Australia) and in a room which doesn't get really any airflow with the window fully open because of a dumb house design my room is always hot....
I would say you are still wrong on some of the technicalities. Water cooling being more "efficient" at moving the heat away is one of those: Big loops with large radiators might produce a lower deltaT then aircoolers, but for the normal AiO they often are no better than good towercoolers. Non of that actually impacts how much heat gets transported unless the CPU is thermal throttling. If the CPU is using 100W then it is the same 100W that are heating up your room (with the exception that water-cooling also requires a pump that add a tiny bit of extra heat). 3:40 And watercooling will not heat up your room faster... normally it is on the contrary. A normal air-cool tower only has very little thermal capacity. Say 1 kg of Aluminium? That can not soak all that much energy at normal temperature levels. A tiny loop with just 200 mL of water takes in more energy to heat up. The larger the loop the more energy it takes to increase in temperature and the longer it takes to release all the energy pumped into it. With an air-cooler it will not take longer than 2 minutes till it reaches steady-state, where as liquid cooling will often be upwards of 5 minutes. So after 2 minutes the aircooler is releasing all the energy it gets into the room, while the watercooler is still soaking up more energy and only releasing everything 3 minutes later. Watercooling COULD heat up your room faster if either the CPU is already throttling with air-cooling or you are increasing the max-boost with the better cooling. 14:38 No, that is not really how it works. The only way that lower fanspeed could slow down the room from heating up is if your GPU is no longer running at max speed due to high temperature. If it is not thermal throttling then the heat-output is the same. Worse yet - silicon chips get LESS EFFICIENT the hotter they get. So keeping your CPU/GPU cool by increasing fanspeed can DECREASE power-consumption somewhat, you just should not put all the fans on full blast as they also draw power.
And let's not forget "hot moves to cold". It doesn't. Things move from high pressure areas (colder air) to low pressure areas (warmer air). It feels like you are "blasted" by hot air because the cold air moves along the floor (denser so it is closer to the floor) and pushes the hot air hot out of the room near the top, where your face is. This gives you impression of the hot air rushing out of the room, but that is only because the colder air is pushing it's way into the room, forcing the hot air out. I love your videos, Jay, but scientifically speaking this one didn't cut the mustard.
I'm not going to lie, but doesn't the speed of moving the heat not matter at all? Unless your pc start using less energy, the amount of heat energy it outputs will be the same, wether you move the heat quickly or not.
Ya, this is what I was thinking. Faster fan speeds will have more volume at a lower temp where slower speeds will be less air at a higher temp, but will be a wash when comparing their heat output
Yeah. It's been a while since I've taken a thermo course, but the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics sticks out here. You supply electrical power to your PC, and pretty much every joule of that power dissipates as heat. Use a fan as an example. You supply electricity to the fan motor, and there are resistive heat losses. Maybe 10% of the electrical energy is converted to heat there. The other 90% of the electrical energy is converted to kinetic energy, as the fan moves the air around. But this air eventually slows down due to friction, and the friction between the air molecules changes this kinetic energy to thermal energy. Practically speaking, 100% of the power you supply to a load will eventually turn into heat. PCs are the same way. The current moving through conductors creates heat. The power sent to your monitor eventually turns into light which turns into heat (on a larger scale, think of the sun's light heating up blacktop). Inductive losses in your power supply transformer become heat. If your PC thermal throttles, then it will reduce power draw. So less thermal transfer can actually mean a cooler room.
@@phantomsplit3491 everything is 100% efficient at turning energy into heat if you look at it long enough. That’s what I always remember coming from Thermo. You’re exactly right
I live in a small place in Hawaii. Lots of windows but little airflow even with fans running. It's already hot and the PC adds 10-15 degrees more when rendering long videos. i9-13900k - RTX4090 - Z790 Hero ETC... May have to put the thing in my fridge 🙂 Or a whole house roof exhaust fan.
I just have to run my AC spring through fall and crack my window in the winter. You would not believe how hot the room gets while I’m gaming. It’s really quite impressive.
Yeah ever since I got a ryzen system with a rtx 3000 card my room needs ac now. The cpu uses so much more than my older intel cpu and the gpu is also using a lot more than my older gpu.
You can look at it in such a way that the room is in a way a cabinet, and your PC is a piece of hardware in it. So of course there must also be airflow in the room
OH MY GOD! I'm an HVAC tech for large buildings (Hospitals) and this is one of the few times I've heard GREAT advice (@18-sih mins)...... EXHAUST the hot air!!! Exhausting hot air will be MUCH more effective than supplying more cold air, A+ Jay, THANKYOU
jay explaining temp transfers reminds me of myself explaining to my mom, for the 100th time, that the AC works at TARGET temps... and that setting it at lower/higher temps does not make the room cool/heat faster. it goes pretty much like this: *40ºC summer day* mom: "hey, i just set the AC to 22º C but its not throwing colder air" me: "mom, i told you a houndred times, setting the temp lower doesn't make the AC blow colder air... it just makes it run until it reaches the set temp" mom: "but it says 22ºC! is it broken or what?!" spoiler alert: it never works. ill have to explain this to her, and many others sadly, until the end of time.
As the primary tech support of the family home, I know this pain so well.. Try explaining my dad that the folder from the digital camera isn't on his computer.. And this magic "copy / paste" thing needs to happen.
Same with the radiators here. But the problem is understandable because a long time ago you regulated the flow of the heated water through the radiator like you regulate the flow through a water-tap. Open it more you got more heat, but now these are no stupid valves anymore it's now a mechanical thermostat that opens and closes a valve depending on the wanted room temperature and that's the problem, they look like the old simple valves with numbers from 0-5 instead of a temperature. 3 is 20°C and one number difference is two degrees of temperature. I don't understand why the companies don't change the print to show the degrees.
@@feldmuis There is an option you don't need the magic copy/paste. Search for wifi sd-card adapter. There are some that automatically copy the content of the SD to a predefined target when it's getting full and you can mount the SD card as a remote drive.
@@echohotelsix Common sense? You mean they lack actual intelligence. Most people are absolute morons. I seriously don't understand how half or more the population doesn't die in their sleep from being too stupid to breathe.
I have an air-conditioned attic above my game room. I located my computer directly above my desk in the attic and installed a remote power switch. I am surprised Jay has not covered remote-mounted radiators. That would be another way to move the heat away from the room you are gaming in.
I usually undervolt in the summer and overclock in the winter. Makes a Hugh difference. Also mining during the winter. So I can make some money and still getting that heat!
Ultimate tip: place an isolated duct from your exhaust case fans to the higher part of your nearest window, and a fan taking "fresh" air from the inside of your home or the lower side of the window.
“Office or Game Room” Jay! Sheesh! I’ve considered running an exhaust vent pipe with a few big fans drawing off the rear of the machine to force it outdoors.
@@JobeStroud oh yeah, that was a heat generator for sure! Hehe I bet in the winter it kept the room nice and toasty too! My rig does that. Rest of the house will be 65-70 and my office is hitting 80 in the winter. Summer is a battle with heat though. Had a CG937K 43” Monitor that alone raised temps in my office. My electric bill climbs quite high in the peak of summer.
@@alteregos8949 In winter I would bring outside air into the computer to keep it cool. Since my game room has a exterior door, I put in a doggy door and made a fan plate for it.
5 years ago I installed an inverter based mini split in the gaming room / office. It cost about $1k. It's the best cooling related investment I have ever made. It's not that expensive considering how much video cards cost these days! It has no issues maintaining a set temperature. As a bonus, it can heat as well. I just did major servicing on it this year and hope I can keep it going for another 5 years.
Great video! I’m water cooling a 10900K and a 3080 Ti and after about a two hour gaming sesh, my room becomes so uncomfortable that I have to stop playing. You’ve been doing lots of temperature/cooling focused videos lately. Although I‘m inclined to think what’s better to water cool, I’d love to see a video comparing custom water cooling a CPU with an air cooled GPU (stock) versus custom cooling a GPU with an air cooled CPU. I’ve seen quite a few builds on PC part picker with custom cooled CPUs but having stock GPUs.
HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB HDD2: 1 TB CASE: AEROCOOL 800 SSD: MP 600 2TB PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@Jameel Khan HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB HDD2: 1 TB CASE: AEROCOOL 800 SSD: MP 600 2TB PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@@bepbep7418 HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB HDD2: 1 TB CASE: AEROCOOL 800 SSD: MP 600 2TB PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
i live in upstate ny, the heat from my pc isnt pleasant in the summer but its really nice during the winter months, i just run my air conditioner in my room to keep it cool in there
Jay, a suggestion- grab a thermal camera and show the heat coming out of the computers. That would make it easier to illustrate the point about how much heat emanates from the computers. Do both air cooled and water cooled. I'm thinking about putting a fan in the furnace return, to pull the warm air out of my 10' by 8' bedroom with a desktop that is on 24/7 (with a monitor), a 55" smart tv, a cable modem, a cable router, and an Xbox One. Definitely gets warm in the room. Can't open the window, got a neighbor from hell right next door. Can't put a window a/c unit in, since the narrow driveway is next to my window. Sometimes i leave the door open for awhile, but there are times when it has to be closed. Thinking about one of those portable a/c units. The return vent opens into a very long and large space above the hallway (about 30'), and a fan in it might work.
Thermal cameras will show the temperature of different items, but it is completely unnecessary to know how much heat is coming out. The heat coming out of your computer is basically the same as the amount of power that it’s consuming. Just use the power consumption of the devices.
you can't see heat coming out of the pc or you just try using a hair dryer and you won't be able to see the hot air on the thermal camera you only be able to see the heat radiating from the computer but won't be able so see the heat coming out of the pc! understand?!?
Some of you are missing my point. Not everybody understands the point being made with numbers and/or words. A video or an image helps many to understand better, which is why i made the suggestion.
@@River_Miles I don't know the market for thermal imaging equipment. Jay can grab what he can get, if he knows someone with a NIST camera, cool. He could also grab a NIST thermometer, or a cell phone with an app, if there is one. It was just a suggestion, and if Jay wants to do it, cool. If not, cool. Doesn't matter either way, just a suggestion.
I recently set off my fire alarm from an over heating room. Both overclocked a 5950x and an rtx3090 along with an lg 4k panel produce enough heat to put the room over 100 degrees
Pro Tip: Don't play that New World game, cause heat output dramatically increases when your graphics card is literally melting/on fire. On the other hand, once it's dead, no more heat problem lol. Don't forget about your TV/monitors, they add heat as well. I have two monitors and a 55" TV that's also a 3rd monitor, and their surfaces generally temp between 85 to 100 F.
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Personally, i don't think it matters what setup you have, total system wattage is how hot the room is going to get. Might start out slowly heating, but the system will cool its self eventually, blasting all the hot air into the room making up the lost time. Pc's are just heaters with low (idle) and high (gaming) settings in my own opinion.
I swear sometimes i think my pc could run below 0 in my basement.... only an r2700x an 1050ti here. Not really super hot bois, but the idea still applies
This video is a great example of the law of conservation of energy. It is neither created or destroyed, only transferred. Back to school soon, looking forward to teaching science again!
My computer is on a custom loop that's hooked up to a 3/4hp chiller I run in my hallway outside my room. Not only is my setup silent, all of the heat is dumped in the hallway, I only wish I had done it even sooner.
HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB HDD2: 1 TB CASE: AEROCOOL 800 SSD: MP 600 2TB PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@@Xerostarry No guide, but it really is very easy. Obviously you need a custom loop and a chiller. I run a EK double pump setup in the chassis and it provides plenty of flow/pressure for a cpu and two video cards, plus 40ft of automotive 3/4" heater hose.
Yeah, he's spoiled by the Californian climate. I live in North Carolina (which is NOT by any stretch a cool state) and our winter highs are still 30-50 degrees Fahrenheit.
I also live in SoCal, but have lived in NY state, so can confirm that winter here is spring elsewhere (though summer SUCKS. Hit 121F/49.5C last summer here)
A lot of people don't realize this but the power you consume with a device more or less will act as a equivalent wattage heater. So a 600w PC will act like a 600 watt heater running in your room. Same with bulbs say you have a 100w incandescent bulb. About 95w of it is heat from the start. The other 5w is light. That 5w light in an enclosed room will bounce around till it gets absorbed and converts into the additional 5w heat. It all goes back to heat. Mechanical energy, sound, electromagnetic waves. They all turn back into heat which pretty much to my understanding can be considered one of the simplest forms of energy.
Here in Sweden, I'm glad my PC put out a lot of heat, in the wintertime that is! 😄 My house is built back in 1909 and it consists of dense timber construction that's insanely well insulated from the winter cold. Even so, it can be a bit nippy in the mornings and nights when it's getting below -20°C. At these times I'm glad my PC is a bit toasty! 😛
@@Rohgamu ehm, no... I love warm weather and hate the cold lol! 😄 There's no good thing with a cold climate. It's cold, wet and just in your way. It's slippery, hard to shift around if you don't have powertools to move a lot of snow and I HATE scraping my car windows every morning and have frozen doors etc just because I don't have a garage! I so wish I could live in a warmer climate but things are what they are... I say give it 5 years and it's a desert anyway due to the climate change so... lol! 🙄
I just play Squad on desert map. That way, I can just pretend the extreme heat is just ultra realistic, limited time, patch by the devs during Summer.
Truly immersive gameplay 😂
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Haha
This is the way.
I imagine hearing this from that anime girls face and I’m dead
Alternative title: How to save in the winter while gaming!
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I am curious about this. Does leaving your computer on idling (which is the cause of the Pre-Built PCs not being eligible for some states) cost more power or less power than the ridiculously inefficient baseboard heaters? Edit: and more specifically can it keep a room as warm in the winter as the baseboard heaters?
@@wraht baseboard heaters heat way more. Much bigger surface area. A Pc can heat up a 10x10 room just at a much slower rate, if there is no ventilation.
@@Joe_1776 my room has no ventilation at all if I don't open a window and door so usually my room can get a little warm after my pc Being on is nice in winter but doesn't do much
That’s not as clickbaity and therefore won’t be used
Having an American displaying the temperature in celsius is so awesome!
Another great vid, thanks :)
I mainly use celsius days. the conversion between them gets pretty confusing at times since its (Cx9/5)+32=F. so you get funky stuff like -40c = -40f. I also wish we would have switched to the metric system... just moving decmials to go for distance and weights. vs the convulted distance and other mesaurements I had to grow up learning to remember how to convert them....
@@cezarnebun9607 if this is a legit question its a measurement of tempature that is wildy used across the world other then america
@@cezarnebun9607 I mean telling a joke off of one sentence online is a toss up.You never know about what someone might know. I wpuld not be surprised at all if someone didn't know what Celsius was, which is why I started the sentence the way I did.
@@Demon09-_- what's a joke? 🤣
well most of the time electronics are measured in C so it's actually easier to just use it after years of monitoring tech temps.
“How to keep your PC from heating up your room”
Simple! Put the PC in a different room and run long cables. Now it heats up a different room and doesn’t matter how loud it is
This is a strategy I've always wanted to implement maybe one day when thunderbolt is more readily available and not so finnicky.
I know linus did it with his house.
I know you can run individual cables but the lengths of some Cables can be a problem for staying functional (like hdmi 2.1 over 15ft for example)
@@TJ.85 you can boost that signal thought i have a hdmi signal booster un powered for my VR setup but i also can power the same booster if i want to run stupid length of hdmi
Ideally, the thing should be in the bathroom then...
But basically I already have my PC heating up another room when playing VR stuff on my Quest with VD.
@@TJ.85 whats thunderbolt
@@TJ.85 i did this in 04, just a hole in the wall, USB and DVI cables through
the wall. you don't have to make it more complex than it has to be.
I’m in England - warming my room is a happy benefit for most of the year.
As a younger person playing on a Commodore 64 back in the day, I’d use the power brick to keep my feet warm…
haha same here! those were the days.
Summer here is winter in California.
its been hell the last month or so with the heat wave.
@@RBMDragon no, they're both in the northern hemisphere so summer in uk is summer in California. It's only winter in southern hemisphere like Australia
@@_unseenhunter_5093 Meant to clarify better: the summer temperatures are close to the winter temperatures in California.
I used to have a big issue with room heat in my old place 4 years ago. My PC was definitely the biggest reason for it but also that room getting morning/afternoon sun.
Blackout curtains will change your life in those situations
@@brianfox340 Oh I had those but my room still got ridiculously hot lol
@@brianfox340 i got a new room walls and black out curtains but the window itself got up to 95 degrees so had to rethink that and covered the windows lol
Also keep in mind that your monitor(s) pump out heat as well. The larger the screen, the more heat it produces. Luckily the days of 300-400w plasmas are behind us
Cries in dual 21" Sony CRTs
Got over in the back room. It's old relic
yeah some older monitors crank out some serious heat. Ive got an old HP 1080p 60hz that puts off about as much heat as my 3080.
When I was younger and pretty broke I had a 50" Sony Bravia tv that kept me from freezing to death in the winter. I couldn't afford heat but that kept me warm enough to not die.
I just bought a new Sony A9G 4k OLED a few weeks ago and the first thing I noticed when I walked by my TV for the first time was the huge amount of heat it gave off. Even 2ft away you could feel it.
I unironically heat my room with my PC. I haven't turned my room radiator on in at least 10 years.
Years ago my gaming room was a closet on the first floor of the house, typically the room would exceed 100 degrees F. I needed to get inventive, gaming in a sauna was not sustainable.
My systems have always been fully water cooled (early adopter from the Koolance days). So, I drilled 2 one inch holes through the floor into the basement. Mounted a triple 360 radiator in the joists below the game room and mounted 3 120mm fans. Threaded the tubing and wiring from the PC to the radiator, I used some Koolance quick connects through the case.
Bingo, I was back to a 70 degree work/play space.
I have actually been looking into this since last Wednesday after i installed an EVGA 3080Ti and realized I installed a furnace.
1st world problem
no, it’s a space heater
@@Aciel_Yu he flexing fosho
No shit. Strix 3090 makes my room an oven
I’ll take that furnace problem away from you anytime.
I've got the smallest game/work space and if I boot up VR, and record with the door closed my space gets above 35 degrees C within 20 minutes.
I once tested this in my loft room; I closed the skylight and fired up cyberpunk (with a 3090 in my system); after 1 hour it was a sauna-like experience.
Ah man
Same. And it happens even when remote working, having desktop ON whole day. Thankfully dont have to keep door closed whole day, and it's getting finally colder here.
That's an oof. I have a similar case, but with two people's gaming systems and a reluctant occupant for cooling
dude, if the room is small you could purchase a releativly cheap air conditioner. Its a god send device it could be around 400-500 USD with instalation.
i never thought i'd see the day when jay is talking about underclocking and air cooling. are we sure he's not been taken hostage?
It's already a proven factor that it takes water cooling a lot longer time to heat up vs air cooler. The air cooler heats up faster will make your room hotter faster. Water cooling takes a lot longer to heat up so it will take a longer time to heat up your room. Another factor is that heaters are basically air cooler. It heats up the the metals and a fan blows the hot air out. If water cooling is better at producing heat, then for sure they will add water to a heater and have the fan blow out hot air to make it produce more heat faster. But they don't do that for a reason because now it will take a lot longer time for that heater to produce heat because it has to heat up the water plus the metal at the same time to start making heat.
@@InfiniteBeingX I literally began having a stoke from even attempting to understand your logic. It takes a two and a half minutes for a 5900x and a 3080 to get two 360mm rads up to temp, How often are you only playing games for that long? It literally doesn't matter how you cool your PC... The components use a specific amount of power, and a specific amount of that power gets turned into heat. Only thing you can do to get it to put off less heat is to get it to use less power (underclocking and undervolting)
he's owned by the left, he cares about the enviornment more than he cares about productivity. it's the fairytopiaunicorn land where making a living doesn't matter, you can just be a bum on the beach to survive.
@@aprilgeneric8027 can’t tell if you’re joking or not and I lowkey like it
@@InfiniteBeingX not sure how the heater in a car or reverse cycle air con works? 😂
To be honest, one of the greatest features of my rig is that is keeps my room at a nice temp during winter
Yeah when I want to give my room some heat. I just turn on my triple sli gtx 480s and run benchmarks constantly.
@@gizengar111 yeah, who needs energy efficiency these days...
only takes 1 FX9590 CPU overclocked and youll get a good 100+ degrees celcius
I see why Linus goes with Server Racks for his PCs, having the heat in a seperate room really helps.
Same thing with whole room watercooling series they made a few years ago, it is always a good watch even if it is older and not really practical.
He's also about removing the noise of a desktop computer by his side, but yeah, that's a good point too
Actually i remember seeing a build where the watercooling components were on a different room and they wired a tube into the computer. It was something like.
PC --- Wall outlets --- Different room --- Radiators and pump
It wasn't because of heat but because of noise, it was server rack PC with Blow-a-tron fans.
@@PolCmara not from concentrate did that with a mini itx system. Heck if i remember the video tho
cept during winter he's missing out on that extra heat.
This has got to be one of if not (and imo) the best channel on RUclips to learn about PC's HANDS DOWN! Awesome work, always with the most essential in depth amount of detail for anyone looking to learn more about their PC system. GREAT WORK!
PSUs also generate heat, specially if it's Gigabyte...
ROFL Bwhahahahahaha :p
All fun and games until that magic smoke comes out of the PSU...
@@mikaeln887 I just returned my gigabyte psu after seeing that my psu was the exact same model that gamers nexus was talking about. Got a corsair rm 850 so I don't have to worry anymore
@@lazerpigeon good for you mate
It's not an explosion! It's just our new heat lowering feature! If you use your psu the thermal throttling feature kicks in, reducing long-term heat output by 100%!*
*assuming your case is inflamable, results may vary
Hey Jay, just want to say that I appreciate that you always mention heat in Celsius, either in text or saying it aloud. It really helps all non-Americans(I.e. rest of the world).
Indeed.
Didn't mind at all that the spoken 40 and written 38 were not the same, it was in the same ballpark, and it was getting the idea though, unlike 100 degrees which is for me boiling water XD
Thanks for the video!
Yeah because the world actually exsists outside the US
Omfg Europeans are so pretentious all the fucking time.
@@EasytheGoon no u
Most Americans watching this use C anyways cause we are tech junkies. I doubt many people who don’t understand both watch these videos lol.
I always look forward to the winter. In Florida, it's like 1 day out of the whole year.
And it probably rains, and Power96 plays Choco-Mi Burrito (Power 96 Version)
i went to florida in February and got the best tan of my life i can conclude florida does not know winter. im pretty sure it was only like 80-85 degrees too the sun just hits different down there haha
This further confirms Florida is just a tiny Australia
Come to North Dakota (upper midwest, just south of Canada), we have two seasons:
Summer: June, July, August
Nonsense: The rest of the year
“ Assuming you got a game room” Jay- assuming I got a PC
the game room is where the pc rests
@Dussy Pestroyer This funeral sure is saddening… let’s turn it into a game room! 🤗
My game room is also my bedroom, tv room, changing room, and living room
@@jakobe_bryantgaming5580 Story of my brother's life.
Gotta keep that 486DX cool some how my friend :P
Blowing air out the door helps alot I do that every time i know im gonna be gaming for a long period. Another tip i can suggest, reduce monitor brightness, get energy efficient light bulbs if you play with the lights on, or try play with lights off. I mean with the brightness of the monitor lower and in the dark should help adjust. Maybe if you play in the day in the summer, get reflective curtains. *Edit:Try to hydrate yourself, and try wear something make you feel cool, and help tolerate the heat. These are some small things you can do but they all add up.
i can feel a heat difference when my reflective curtains are open. even closed they're pretty warm but it's much cooler in the room.
About monitors and lights, try to set it up so there is lighting _in the back._ While for some it may be distracting, ambient lighting is suppose to help reduce eyestrain by removing the contrast between your light-generating display monitor and the surrounding environment.
Who wears clothing while gaming anyway?
Led bulbs use next no electric...a led monitor also uses hardly anything...if you want to save money or temps...then undervolt you gpu...dont overclock...
The clothing comment is the same flawed argument as the cooler cpu/gpu tho. You generate heat regardless of if you are wearing a jacket or not. The jacket only prevents the heat from leaving your body and entering the room in the same way as having the pc case with the fans off for example.
If you don’t want to open the door you can always install a return air grill in the door or ABOVE the door (hot air rises) and that will help with return air quite a bit. You can also install a jumper duct for a return air duct if you don’t like the other suggestion but getting that hot air out has to happen in order for cold air to get back in and remove more heat. Search both of these returns on the tube and there are a few good ones out there.
A little disclaimer for the people trying undervolt for the first time: the undervolt might be stable while playing rasterized games but your card will probably crash while playing with raytracing on. So It is useful to have two profiles: one with a more aggressive undervolt profile for when you are not playing with RT on and another one that will probably run around stock voltage that is gonna be stable with RT games.
Eh ray tracing is kinda pointless still. Normal graphics are almost on par with ray tracing in games with already good graphics. Games like minecraft though it really shows.
@@iCore7Gaming Raytracing is same as any other technology - in the hands of people with no clue it is not useful, but even the performance of the RTX 2060 is more than enough to give you full global-illuminaiton at a fraction of the performance-impact traditional lighting method would have.
Sadly - that is an application that does not lend it self to the "uh, it's shiny" marketing and is thus hardly ever pursued.
I had a fantastic undervolt that worked at any game settings, but as soon as I tried streaming using the nvenc encoder games started crashing. I’m back to stock now
@@ABaumstumpf eh I have to disagree. Raytracing gives no real benefit to using it over how much fps you lose while it’s on.
I run an undervolted 3080ti most of the time with Ray tracing and everything on and I have yet to crash
Isn't the primary purpose of our gaming PCs to heat up our rooms? 🤔
I thought it was so that we could cook food without needing a microwave or an oven.
People who live in Siberia only game to have a warm room
@@fredwerza3478 I was going to say Alaska. We could just say anywhere approaching the Arctic Circle.
Yeah I thought I bought a multipurpose space heater that just happens to do gaming stuff
Yeah, how am I supposed to stay warm in the winter?
Pro tip: High pressure fan blowing air out of the room (or window). However if you're streaming then you might want to turn some sort of voice filtering software/hardware on.
Pro tip? u mean common sense?
Doesn’t work if its hot outside. You would just be increasing the temperature in the house overall
Does not work when its 40c outside with 90% humidty.
I enjoy my PC heating up the room, makes me realize its power.
The more powerful the less heat it puts out because it needs to work less. Therefore being ice cool means the best pc 😎
Tell that to my bios modded gtx 780 spitting out as much heat/power as a 3090
It just means your PC is inefficient. Do you really enjoy wasting that much power for pretty images?
I love how Jay completely ignored the whole 6600XT announcement and cards, as if he couldn't care less lol
Respect ✊
Because no one does at this point lol
Because his videos covering new releases are the worst ratio'd and full of comments telling him he sucks because he got a review card. He addressed this weeks ago.
I haven’t cared since they released the 3060
We don't like going backwards in technology.
My room is 32c - 35c summer time, and using high cpu/gpu processing tasks heats it up even more. The advice given is spot on. Keep volts/clocks low in summer, and you can move it back up in winter time.
How do you do that?
@@enigmaartista2981 In the bios, you can change voltage and core clock settings. see your motherboard manual and google for more details.
@@enigmaartista2981 For my video card I use MSI Afterburner and just lower the Temp Limit to where my FPS is still great. This will auto adjust the power limit to the video card and put out less heat. I've tried setting FPS hard cap in games but it still makes the card work harder and by doing this I find it lowered my card temps.
So will we be getting a "How to heat your room with your PC" video when Winter rolls around?
Mine crypto instead of running a space heater. Sell the coins and you can offset the cost of heating.
Turn on your pc, max everything,and then game or mine.
Yep
Downgrade to an FX-8350, put it on water, watch as that puppy heats up the room just idling, lol.
That's easy. Mine Crypto or run something more useful like folding@home.
The temperature in my room is TOO DAMN HOT!
Thanks, Jay. Always good to see you.
I find that setting your house fan to be always on while you're gaming helps to increase air exchange when your air conditioner is not cycling, and also setting your menu frame rates lower to something like 30 FPS will drop your clocks and give time for the room to cool off between matches.
Hey DeilGrist, i work for a mold company, dont do this, because your fan is always running without the AC on you are increase the moisture in your system, this in turn increases the chance of mold growth, what you'll end up having are moldy a/c coils and moldy AC ducts. Not good for your system and especially you.
@@firetraq oh is this true? My HVAC worker uncle told me the best option was to keep the house fan always on to keep it cool. He didnt mention mold. That's an interesting point to keep in mind. I wonder what the alternative is then
@@TheLegendOfLame did a google search and traq is right
What do I do for a singleplayer game?
I love this kind of video. Things that are so common. scenes, you're probably overlooking it. Simple things to improve quality of life, and when you need to bite the bullet and buy an upgrade.
Love to see more videos like this about gaming spaces and taking things for granted. How to properly set up your monitor. Room lighting. Clean a mouse ball. Furniture. Pet vs PC.
clean a mouse ball? in 2021? those 3 people will love to be referenced in a video
That's the opposite to me, these pieces of "advice" should be common sense and people not knowing about how heat works is just baffling.
On behalf on the entire world except the US, thank you for converting temperatures to degrees Celsius!
You’re welcome
Just usa who is behind everyone else.
They are not so wise over there, celcius ftw
@@svingarm9283 Liberia and Myanmar also use Fahrenheit, so it isn't just the US.
@@wta1518 also imperial units/system?
@@brunofagulha Yes.
Living in AZ, we've done all of these tips. I have super old single pane windows so we've put aluminum to block out the outside heat and radiation on them. Next step is to find a small ac for our rooms so hopefully that helps. Ty for this video!
Check and see if you area governments are offering rebates/interest free loans for new windows. Lots of places are just to reduce the power needed to cool. Windows and insulation are normally part of it.
"Your hard drives and SSDs also put out a small amount of heat." Back in the day, around 1998, hard drives put out more than a "small amount" of heat. 9GB was a huge hard drive then, and I got a 10,000 RPM IBM drive, a HALF HEIGHT (yes, an inch and a half tall) monster chunk of steel that was super heavy, super loud, and ran so hot I had to fabricate a heat sink for it, run it outside the case, and attach a fan to the heat sink... what a pain.
@@SkeleTonHammer not really when playing or installing games... they'll do just fine, might overheat if you keep running crystaldisk xD
Do you remember the "Big Foot" hard drives?
@@lesliesavage9229 Made by Quantum, yep. But it was Micropolis’ 9GB AV-rated drives that ran so hot they died after a year.
@@SkeleTonHammer
Btw it’s also better for the ssd if it is at a warmer temperature (not to the point it starts overheating) than a colder temperature because it increases it’s longevity
My first 1 Gigabyte drive was a SCSI WD full-height 5" drive. It was loud and hot but hella fast for the time. I think I may still have it somewhere...
This really helps, I live in Iceland and even though that in the winter it sometimes touches -20 c° (-4° Fahrenheit) my 2070 super, Ryzen 7 5800x system absolutely boils my brain if I even dare to close the door. love your content Jay❤️ Been a huge fan for a long time :)
You get a like for converting Celsius to American.
I live in greenland and it does indeed make your room more damp when gaming.
I thought Iceland actually got cold. -20°C is nothing. Here in Alberta it sometimes gets to -50°C.
@@CVX_Freak what other countries use Fahrenheit? I know Canada and Mexico both don't 🤣
@@cito478 Apparently Liberia does
Other tips... If you have central A/C, putting other heat emitters, like routers and wifi access points, in another room, can help make your room run cooler. Each room has its own HVAC register, so if you spread your equipment out as much as you can, it will be easier for the central A/C to deal with it. That's especially useful if you have one room that's cool and one room that's hot.
All correct! Except the direction of door fan blowing air into/out of the room. Heat may flow from hot to cold but colder air is denser (e.g. see how cold/warm fronts move) and heat rises. The different densities means by just opening the door hotter air will flow out of the room near the top of the door and colder air will flow into the room near the bottom of the door; fan placement should aid this natural air movement instead of fight against it, e.g. fans on the floor blow in and fans hung at top of door frame blow out. By doing so, you more quickly and efficiently replace the hotter air in the room with colder air (i.e. increase ventilation).
If things get that bad everyone's going to start hooking up dryer exhausts from their PC to their window.....then you can open that door without tainting the rest of your house with that Heat Wave!
Changing to "Adaptive" in the GPU control panel seems like it made a couple of degree difference! Great tip!
what did you change to adaptive? also NVidia control panel?
@@billnien997 Probably power management mode in the nvidia control panel.
@@hawkshot1025 I guess my gpu doesn't support changing to adaptive, I just see normal and maximum performance.
Which is a shame, my card gets really hot I could use an easy temp decrease.
hope this works.. im using a 1080ti founders edition and these blower cards run super hot all the time!
@@billnien997 it's adaptive vsync
For those who are weary about window units, use a standalone A/C unit that exhausts using a hose & adapter through the window. Its not as efficient as a window unit, but way more convenient for climate control such as using as a fan, dehumidifier, and my unit gets down to 61F output. I use it as a supplement when i work in my home office to my game room (as it rolls around on wheels). I would strongly advise against swamp coolers.
just make sure it has 2 hoses. single hose doesn't actually cool anything since it creates a pressure imbalance causing warm air to just seep back into the room
@codesymphony what does the 2nd hose do? I had one that only had 1 hose exhaust years ago in a condo when the main unit was dying. Makes sense. In our case I think it worked out since it pulled it much cooler air from the common hallway.
1) Automatic blinds: Reduce heat coming in from the outside.
Popper HVAC are hard to install here due to building regulatins. (Standalone with exthaut hose, are a problem with my heating.)
2) If you life in a region with Brick houses, they can store a (relatively) big amount of heat.
So if you reduce the heat coming in during the day, letting night air in can keep you comfortable,
provided you let the air circulate trou the house.
PS: And if you in a low level city building in a region where breakins have happened,
the correct blinds can keep people out while still allowing a (small) amount of air in.
The standalone portable AC is what I have in my PC room, here's a tip: make sure the connection point of the exhaust hose to the back of the unit is sealed up with some duck tape. I finally realized the hose > bracket > back of unit connection was pretty ill fitting; it's just plastic that snaps together without a seal, and was venting a ton of hot air back into the room, also losing pressure for exhausting that hot air outside. A little duck tape solved that.
Also, get a cheap survival blanket, the thin foil looking ones, at your local sporting goods dept, for a couple bucks. Wrap that around the exhaust hose and tape it in place. Doesn't need to be perfectly tight either. That mitigates the heat that would still otherwise radiate back into the room just from the hose. On a hot summer day, close to 100F, using an infrared thermometer, the hose outer surface was 115-120+F, but after wrapping it, it temped at ambient or slightly above - like 35-40 degrees cooler. I thought of that little hack earlier this summer after taping up the hose connection. Wrapping the hose made a significant improvement on top of that, to keeping the room much cooler.
To add to what Jay already said, I always thought to treat my AC-less room like a bigger PC case. I need air intake (window with fan blowing in), heat exhaust (2nd window and door with fans blowing out), and air circulation around the hottest components (desk/PC area).
From someone who lives in a hot country, keep your windows closed and curtains drawn during hot sunny days. Opening windows will just make things worse.
Yep, I have a push/pull fan config for my rooms. Better than just maxing out your ceiling fan (which just stirs the air around in your room).
@@stuartfury3390 Absolutely and covering the windows to block the sun (more so than curtains) helps a ton too. Can get a bit hermit/recluse like after a bit though...
HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS
GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING
MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO
HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB
HDD2: 1 TB
CASE: AEROCOOL 800
SSD: MP 600 2TB
PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT
and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@@crisnmaryfam7344 HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS
GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING
MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO
HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB
HDD2: 1 TB
CASE: AEROCOOL 800
SSD: MP 600 2TB
PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT
and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
60’s in the winter!?! Here in Wisconsin we see -30 Fahrenheit in the winter!
I live in Southern Alberta. I simultaneously live in a hot and cold place. -40 in the winter, +40 in the summer
*Nebraska feelings kicks in*
Wow what perfect timing this just started happening a weeks ago ever since I brought my pc to my room from having it in the basement for years.
I live in the north of England, so this video basically advised how to cool down my room for that one month out of the whole year.
Durham here, we are lucky to get a week of hot weather.
@@SirAdamKenna Darlington/county Durham here, so I was exaggerating when I said a month lol
Here is a solution. Exhaust your case air directly outside of the room with an outdoor exhaust radiator, if you have a custom loop. Or use it for cooking!!!
I had this idea as well, however, if you go to far from your ambient temperture in the room, you can either get condensation if you go too cold outside or put heat INTO your loop if it's too warm outside. - one thing I HAVE thought about though is maybe plumbing a radiator onto the intake of my window air conditioner so that hot air is immediately exchanged through the air conditioner to the outside. Somehow, I don't think that's going to get spousal approval though heh. All I know is that right now my window air conditioner unit, in it's current configuration is NOT enough to exhaust the heat from my water cooled 3090 and 5950x and it often gets into the mid 80's (f) (I have a thermometer in the wall for my room). at the same time, my loop temp gets into the 40-43c range (which I honestly fear for the structural integrity of my PETG tubes). I'm really not sure what to do. I can't use an air conditioner over 500w because my system at peak takes up 1100w. (measured at the ups, includes displays and networking gear) and I don't want to pop my 15a breaker.) - I rent my place and can't make any electrical or permanent hvac upgrades)
@@joshhardin666 Well, if your system is water cooled, just put a radiator on a hole on your wall, ideally a 480mm with the hardware you've got, with some noctua fans. Realistically, with the caliber of PC components you have, you won't push heat into your system at all. Or just use that heat for cooking.... Lol
Having recently converted my shed into a gaming room, my main concern was the cold. I insulated the walls and ceilings with 100mm of Polystyrene but I had no idea how hot it would get in there with a 5600x/3070 system. The room is 2x2m and completely sealed. It can easily get up to 30c+ in there with the door shut. In the end, I got a couple of in-line extractor fans, put them in the garage (with joins onto the gaming shed) and bored through the walls. One in, one out. After a week, for the "out" fan, I ran ducting across the ceiling to above my gaming pc, which seems to have helped even more. Thanks to the insulation I put in, in our latest heat wave in the UK, the shed would be 20c when it was 30c outside, however, putting on the fans ended up heating the shed due to the "in" fan, filling it with 30c air. But in normal times, it works well for now.
A few tweaks will get it working well. Ideally you want the inlet to be as low as possible from a shaded area outside, the outlet should go to atmosphere.
You could easily route the outlet through the garage wall, this will stop you circulating the warm air, your inlet will need a little more thought to suit your property.
Hope that gives you a few ideas to improve 👍 I’m a plumber now but I used to do ducting and A/C installation.
Yeah insulation can become a double edged sword real quick. Where I live is warm pretty much most of the year, everyone learns their lesson trying to save money by turning off the AC when not home lol.. It takes so much to cool your house back down. Its better to just maintain it.
Look into making a "swamp cooler" and duct that air into the inlet side.
I've briefly looked into the possibility of exhausting the air from the rad outside the house somehow so that the room temperature isn't affected. It's possible but problematic.
Basically I'd need to put an air box over the rad which would feed into a pipe with at least one fan helping to deal with the extra pressure. I'd need to vent into a space that isn't affected by wind pressure changes outside, the roof space is ideal.
I want to do it but I've been too lazy to get started.
You ever try this? What you described is the same system that's used by portable ACs (not the shitty desktop ones, real ones that look like giant paper shredders)
Ever try this?
I live in the desert of southern california, I have done all of the things you have said (besides reducing my overlock, because ive never actually done that because i dont fully understand how to do it safely). But the fan in the doorway works and so does buying a little window/portable ac unit. It gets to +120F where i live so my room gets pretty hot consistantly but i just open the door and put the fan there or ill turn on the little ac if i want to open the window and let the hot air in also.
I have a portable swamp cooler, and having a window cracked works best for exhaust. and having positive pressure using 2 sheets of toilet paper. ruclips.net/video/QMXBGYHiGes/видео.html
One thing that has helped me with my room getting hot is getting a gpu with a liquid aio cooler and air cooling my cpu with a noctua cooler
Try looking into getting a mini-split AC unit --- they can cool your room to nice temp and also be very minimal on noise --- they are pricier than window units but well worth it
@@Spazbo4 that LITERALLY doesn't help with room temp.
Jay explained that in the video it helps your components run cooler but the same heat is pumped into the rad's and into your room so the room temp will actually get hot faster with any type of water cooling including aio's.
@@TJ.85 except the opposite happens when i swapped my gpu for one that has an aio. i can't explain why it happens but it helped my room to be 10F-15F degrees cooler in my room. it does get a little warmer when i have games running with vsync off, by about 5 degrees, but still much more bearable than when i had my rtx 3090FE in my main PC
Dude, skunkworks! I’ve been watching you since you had a “full-time job” and a full-time RUclips channel. You inspired me with skunkworks to become a builder. So, love me some skunkworks and that you brought it back.
In refridgeration I always describe it in terms of heat and lack of heat. Cold is a relative term whereas heat is actually referring to vibration of particles. I dont cool things I remove heat.
I've got my computer set up in the same room that my HVAC pulls air from in the basement 🤘😎🤘 keeping it reeeeeal chilly and automatically exchanging the air for me lol I didn't realize how lucky the setup was until watching this video. Thanks Jay!
Same, it gets so cold I actually run a heater while gaming mid summer. Lol
HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS
GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING
MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO
HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB
HDD2: 1 TB
CASE: AEROCOOL 800
SSD: MP 600 2TB
PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT
and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@@Exrimordonaj HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS
GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING
MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO
HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB
HDD2: 1 TB
CASE: AEROCOOL 800
SSD: MP 600 2TB
PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT
and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@@shredderorokusaki3013 That's pretty scary hot for a gpu, you should really invest in an airflow case with beefy noctua fans or an aio. As well as get some ac pumping in there, wouldn't want to fry the vram on a new gpu when you get it. If a gt970 is getting that hot, you will likely fry a 3080ti in the same environment
@@haydn6462 i got this case in 2017 until then i had a 2006 case that kept it from 2006 until 2017 so gtx 970 worked for 2 years on the 11 years old case well and from 2017 until now it is on this case. I will also remove the two hdds when i get the card because i stopped using them since i got the mp 600 2tb ssd in juyly 2020.
Thanks for making this video Jay! I use to struggle with this problem at my old place. My room was always the hottest in the house with minimal ventilation. All I had to do was turn the fan around. New game setup is in the basement and is naturally cool. Still had to watch this whole video because my past self needed to hear this! Cheers!
haha I remember being like "wow my room is even HOTTER" when I watercooled my PC. With a radiator, my computer literally became a space heater
ye makes the room warm and cosy
Ventilation is a big one for me. I realized that if i leave my door open that completely fixes my issues with heating up my room or high GPU temps.
at that point youre just slowly heating up the entire house lol
@@patrickh92able Its a funny comment, but it doesnt work like that.
@@patrickh92able Yeah unless the rest of your house is smaller than your room, which makes zero sense, then you will not notice that affect occur at all. Your A/C in your house, if you have a central heating system, will far output the relatively small amount of heat generated by your computer, I'd imagine.
Jay I’m impressed on your hvac knowledge, I get plenty of customers complaining the ac isnt cooling well in some rooms. I go in there and there’s a 50” tv a pc, monitor and a console going at once with the door closed😂🤦♂️ 🥵
My plasma literally heats my entire living room 🤣
Oh my god, this video hits the nail on the head. I live in the Caribbean and it gets pretty toasty and since most Caribbean countries are developing countries not everyone can't afford AC everywhere. My room is located on the other side of house where whenever it's after 1-3pm the sun just goes ham and absolutely blasts my room. Concrete tends to trap heat and you can literally feel the difference in temperature when you leave or enter my room. I find my self gaming at nights with my curtains pulled, windows open, door open and a fan running. My room gets up to 32 °C as well, it just sucks.
It's almost as if Jay is spying on us... 🤣
My wife was literally saying it's hot in my room every day she walked in the office.
“here in california we have HVAC”
a san diegan, who uses a table fan: 🙂
lol jokes on you. I use it to heat my room when its cold in the winter and save on heating my place. In the summer im usually out and about and not at my computer.
My wife and I just bought a three bedroom house. We decided the second bedroom is a guest room just in case a relative decided to come visit us from out of town but had a hard time deciding what the third room is for. I wanted a game room but my wife wanted a sauna. So we compromised and it worked out just fine. My PC generate enough heat in that room to make my wife happy.
😂👏🏽
Get a jacuzzi too…perfect game room.
@@agc2801 jacuzzi water in a custom loop....genius
Since i live in a pretty cold place, heating my room is a nice bonus my PC gives me lol
Its a great heater.
This for sure, when I was in North Dakota I could just crack my window and instantly comfortable during winter.
This region doesn't really have winter.
Lucky :(
@@GainingDespair crazy i live in north dakota and you are 1000% correct haha
Yeah im in the Philippines so...my water loop gets to 80C over time, like a day of running something that uses 100% GPU and ~180 watts showing in wattman, its 30C here almost all the time and 80% humidity... the extra heat from the system doesnt help the comfort levels in the room :)
I wish I lived in a cool place :(. Here (Australia) and in a room which doesn't get really any airflow with the window fully open because of a dumb house design my room is always hot....
3:10
Maybe there will be coolers with very large evaporation chambers. That way they can cool components to below room temperature just like a fridge.
I would say you are still wrong on some of the technicalities.
Water cooling being more "efficient" at moving the heat away is one of those:
Big loops with large radiators might produce a lower deltaT then aircoolers, but for the normal AiO they often are no better than good towercoolers. Non of that actually impacts how much heat gets transported unless the CPU is thermal throttling. If the CPU is using 100W then it is the same 100W that are heating up your room (with the exception that water-cooling also requires a pump that add a tiny bit of extra heat).
3:40
And watercooling will not heat up your room faster... normally it is on the contrary. A normal air-cool tower only has very little thermal capacity. Say 1 kg of Aluminium? That can not soak all that much energy at normal temperature levels. A tiny loop with just 200 mL of water takes in more energy to heat up. The larger the loop the more energy it takes to increase in temperature and the longer it takes to release all the energy pumped into it.
With an air-cooler it will not take longer than 2 minutes till it reaches steady-state, where as liquid cooling will often be upwards of 5 minutes. So after 2 minutes the aircooler is releasing all the energy it gets into the room, while the watercooler is still soaking up more energy and only releasing everything 3 minutes later.
Watercooling COULD heat up your room faster if either the CPU is already throttling with air-cooling or you are increasing the max-boost with the better cooling.
14:38
No, that is not really how it works. The only way that lower fanspeed could slow down the room from heating up is if your GPU is no longer running at max speed due to high temperature. If it is not thermal throttling then the heat-output is the same. Worse yet - silicon chips get LESS EFFICIENT the hotter they get. So keeping your CPU/GPU cool by increasing fanspeed can DECREASE power-consumption somewhat, you just should not put all the fans on full blast as they also draw power.
Very well said
just commented on the same. and it is not the fist time jay said that. he realy should get that right if he is talking about it
Exactly all of this. Clueless Jay strikes again.
And let's not forget "hot moves to cold". It doesn't. Things move from high pressure areas (colder air) to low pressure areas (warmer air). It feels like you are "blasted" by hot air because the cold air moves along the floor (denser so it is closer to the floor) and pushes the hot air hot out of the room near the top, where your face is. This gives you impression of the hot air rushing out of the room, but that is only because the colder air is pushing it's way into the room, forcing the hot air out.
I love your videos, Jay, but scientifically speaking this one didn't cut the mustard.
Exactly what I wanted to comment but way more specific, thank you.
I'm not going to lie, but doesn't the speed of moving the heat not matter at all? Unless your pc start using less energy, the amount of heat energy it outputs will be the same, wether you move the heat quickly or not.
Ya, this is what I was thinking. Faster fan speeds will have more volume at a lower temp where slower speeds will be less air at a higher temp, but will be a wash when comparing their heat output
Yup... A chip with a 300w TDP is going to release ~300w of heat into the room regardless of cooling setup.
Yeah. It's been a while since I've taken a thermo course, but the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics sticks out here. You supply electrical power to your PC, and pretty much every joule of that power dissipates as heat.
Use a fan as an example. You supply electricity to the fan motor, and there are resistive heat losses. Maybe 10% of the electrical energy is converted to heat there. The other 90% of the electrical energy is converted to kinetic energy, as the fan moves the air around. But this air eventually slows down due to friction, and the friction between the air molecules changes this kinetic energy to thermal energy. Practically speaking, 100% of the power you supply to a load will eventually turn into heat.
PCs are the same way. The current moving through conductors creates heat. The power sent to your monitor eventually turns into light which turns into heat (on a larger scale, think of the sun's light heating up blacktop). Inductive losses in your power supply transformer become heat.
If your PC thermal throttles, then it will reduce power draw. So less thermal transfer can actually mean a cooler room.
@@phantomsplit3491 everything is 100% efficient at turning energy into heat if you look at it long enough. That’s what I always remember coming from Thermo. You’re exactly right
Over time it doesn't matter but in the (very) short term it does. If there's very poor heat transfer there will be a delay before it heats the room.
I live in a small place in Hawaii. Lots of windows but little airflow even with fans running. It's already hot and the PC adds 10-15 degrees more when rendering long videos. i9-13900k - RTX4090 - Z790 Hero ETC... May have to put the thing in my fridge 🙂 Or a whole house roof exhaust fan.
I just have to run my AC spring through fall and crack my window in the winter. You would not believe how hot the room gets while I’m gaming. It’s really quite impressive.
Yeah ever since I got a ryzen system with a rtx 3000 card my room needs ac now. The cpu uses so much more than my older intel cpu and the gpu is also using a lot more than my older
gpu.
Try a mining rig with 20 high-end GPUs.
@@andrasbiro3007 my 3090 makes pixels through nuclear fission
You can look at it in such a way that the room is in a way a cabinet, and your PC is a piece of hardware in it.
So of course there must also be airflow in the room
OH MY GOD! I'm an HVAC tech for large buildings (Hospitals) and this is one of the few times I've heard GREAT advice (@18-sih mins)......
EXHAUST the hot air!!! Exhausting hot air will be MUCH more effective than supplying more cold air, A+ Jay, THANKYOU
jay explaining temp transfers reminds me of myself explaining to my mom, for the 100th time, that the AC works at TARGET temps... and that setting it at lower/higher temps does not make the room cool/heat faster. it goes pretty much like this:
*40ºC summer day*
mom: "hey, i just set the AC to 22º C but its not throwing colder air"
me: "mom, i told you a houndred times, setting the temp lower doesn't make the AC blow colder air... it just makes it run until it reaches the set temp"
mom: "but it says 22ºC! is it broken or what?!"
spoiler alert: it never works. ill have to explain this to her, and many others sadly, until the end of time.
As the primary tech support of the family home, I know this pain so well..
Try explaining my dad that the folder from the digital camera isn't on his computer..
And this magic "copy / paste" thing needs to happen.
Same with the radiators here. But the problem is understandable because a long time ago you regulated the flow of the heated water through the radiator like you regulate the flow through a water-tap. Open it more you got more heat, but now these are no stupid valves anymore it's now a mechanical thermostat that opens and closes a valve depending on the wanted room temperature and that's the problem, they look like the old simple valves with numbers from 0-5 instead of a temperature. 3 is 20°C and one number difference is two degrees of temperature. I don't understand why the companies don't change the print to show the degrees.
What's wrong with people nowadays? They seems to be lacking common sense.
@@feldmuis There is an option you don't need the magic copy/paste. Search for wifi sd-card adapter. There are some that automatically copy the content of the SD to a predefined target when it's getting full and you can mount the SD card as a remote drive.
@@echohotelsix Common sense? You mean they lack actual intelligence. Most people are absolute morons. I seriously don't understand how half or more the population doesn't die in their sleep from being too stupid to breathe.
I always had the idea for a vent system like a dryer venting pc heat right outside.
Was just thinking this
I've read it could be doable but risky. I don't think it would be as easy as you think.
They say it is better giving rather than receiving!
You three are awesome 👍🏻
I have an air-conditioned attic above my game room. I located my computer directly above my desk in the attic and installed a remote power switch. I am surprised Jay has not covered remote-mounted radiators. That would be another way to move the heat away from the room you are gaming in.
Nah babe can't go with you today I'm draining my 30liter loop xD
I may add one quick tip. Lock your fps on your screen refresh rate. Your gpu only need to pump as many you can see and will not emit so much heat.
In another word, Vsync On?
@@ArianRiv yep
I usually undervolt in the summer and overclock in the winter. Makes a Hugh difference. Also mining during the winter. So I can make some money and still getting that heat!
Ultimate tip: place an isolated duct from your exhaust case fans to the higher part of your nearest window, and a fan taking "fresh" air from the inside of your home or the lower side of the window.
What up yoel? That's rare
@@TheChuyDewy Yeah not much Yoel's with Y
“Office or Game Room” Jay! Sheesh! I’ve considered running an exhaust vent pipe with a few big fans drawing off the rear of the machine to force it outdoors.
I actually did that with a old computer. FX 8350 OCed to 5 GHZ made it run super hot. AC intake and exhaust was blown outside.
Just get a fan and open a window
@@JobeStroud oh yeah, that was a heat generator for sure! Hehe I bet in the winter it kept the room nice and toasty too! My rig does that. Rest of the house will be 65-70 and my office is hitting 80 in the winter. Summer is a battle with heat though. Had a CG937K 43” Monitor that alone raised temps in my office. My electric bill climbs quite high in the peak of summer.
@@alteregos8949 In winter I would bring outside air into the computer to keep it cool. Since my game room has a exterior door, I put in a doggy door and made a fan plate for it.
That's not a bad idea.
5 years ago I installed an inverter based mini split in the gaming room / office. It cost about $1k. It's the best cooling related investment I have ever made. It's not that expensive considering how much video cards cost these days! It has no issues maintaining a set temperature. As a bonus, it can heat as well. I just did major servicing on it this year and hope I can keep it going for another 5 years.
Great video! I’m water cooling a 10900K and a 3080 Ti and after about a two hour gaming sesh, my room becomes so uncomfortable that I have to stop playing.
You’ve been doing lots of temperature/cooling focused videos lately. Although I‘m inclined to think what’s better to water cool, I’d love to see a video comparing custom water cooling a CPU with an air cooled GPU (stock) versus custom cooling a GPU with an air cooled CPU. I’ve seen quite a few builds on PC part picker with custom cooled CPUs but having stock GPUs.
Exactly and that honestly got me super buyers remorse... Why oh why didnt I go for the I5 and 3070 or a console...
WATER COOLING MAKES A ROOM HOTTER
Whenever my gameroom gets hot af, I simply quit gaming and go to the nearby lake xD
Ac
at least it forces you to live a more balanced lifestyle :D
Super appreciate the temp conversion to celsius
How to keep your room from HEATING UP?
Jay:"Shut your computer off."
Fin
This is literally what my dad tells me every day and that’s my name 🤔
Kinda hard to game when your PC is off.
"Do you live in a jungle or something??"
Me: "Even worse....Its a place called New Jersey
Don't give up hope. I escaped New Jersey; you can, too!
Well yeah, Azrael did try to end the world in Red Bank after all 😁
HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS
GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING
MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO
HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB
HDD2: 1 TB
CASE: AEROCOOL 800
SSD: MP 600 2TB
PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT
and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@Jameel Khan HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS
GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING
MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO
HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB
HDD2: 1 TB
CASE: AEROCOOL 800
SSD: MP 600 2TB
PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT
and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@@bepbep7418 HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS
GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING
MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO
HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB
HDD2: 1 TB
CASE: AEROCOOL 800
SSD: MP 600 2TB
PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT
and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
i live in upstate ny, the heat from my pc isnt pleasant in the summer but its really nice during the winter months, i just run my air conditioner in my room to keep it cool in there
Jay, a suggestion- grab a thermal camera and show the heat coming out of the computers. That would make it easier to illustrate the point about how much heat emanates from the computers. Do both air cooled and water cooled. I'm thinking about putting a fan in the furnace return, to pull the warm air out of my 10' by 8' bedroom with a desktop that is on 24/7 (with a monitor), a 55" smart tv, a cable modem, a cable router, and an Xbox One. Definitely gets warm in the room. Can't open the window, got a neighbor from hell right next door. Can't put a window a/c unit in, since the narrow driveway is next to my window. Sometimes i leave the door open for awhile, but there are times when it has to be closed. Thinking about one of those portable a/c units. The return vent opens into a very long and large space above the hallway (about 30'), and a fan in it might work.
yessss +1
Thermal cameras will show the temperature of different items, but it is completely unnecessary to know how much heat is coming out.
The heat coming out of your computer is basically the same as the amount of power that it’s consuming. Just use the power consumption of the devices.
you can't see heat coming out of the pc
or you just try using a hair dryer and you won't be able to see the hot air on the thermal camera you only be able to see the heat radiating from the computer but won't be able so see the heat coming out of the pc! understand?!?
Some of you are missing my point. Not everybody understands the point being made with numbers and/or words. A video or an image helps many to understand better, which is why i made the suggestion.
@@River_Miles I don't know the market for thermal imaging equipment. Jay can grab what he can get, if he knows someone with a NIST camera, cool. He could also grab a NIST thermometer, or a cell phone with an app, if there is one. It was just a suggestion, and if Jay wants to do it, cool. If not, cool. Doesn't matter either way, just a suggestion.
What I do is limit fps to 60 lower my PL Keeps the gpu nice and cool compared to letting it go whatever it wants to do.
Yeah, living in a cold miserable country this is actually a blessing. Saves putting the heating on and my room is nice and cozy.
Bro I gotta have my fan and a/c running at all times😂
Central Air + 12,000 BTU window unit + 20" fan....
Yep, same. Got a little window unit plus central air and a fan in the room
I recently set off my fire alarm from an over heating room. Both overclocked a 5950x and an rtx3090 along with an lg 4k panel produce enough heat to put the room over 100 degrees
I have watercooler 6950xt 360 rad in front and watercooler 9700k 240 rad out top (upgrade soon). My room is 8c higher than the rest of the house
When the room is too hot, not only the performance of your compontents drop, your performance as a gamer drops even more!
Pro Tip: Don't play that New World game, cause heat output dramatically increases when your graphics card is literally melting/on fire. On the other hand, once it's dead, no more heat problem lol. Don't forget about your TV/monitors, they add heat as well. I have two monitors and a 55" TV that's also a 3rd monitor, and their surfaces generally temp between 85 to 100 F.
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I LOVE YOURE CHANEL ONE OF THE MAIN RESONS IS BECAUSE YOU DONT INSERT POLICS ON PEOPLE YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU LOVE TO DO AND YOU GIVE GREAT ADVICE IN MY OPINION YOUR FUNNY GOOD FAMILY MAN AND I LOVE THAT ABOUT YOU AND YOU HAVE GOOD FRIENDS THAT WORK WITH YOU .I STOPED WATCHING SOME OTHER RUclipsRS BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY ARE DOCTORS AND THEY PUT THEIR POLITICS ON THEIR VIEWERS THATS NOT WHY I WHATCH THEM IT WAS FOR THEIR CREATIVE IDEAS THANK YOU FOR NOT BEEN THAT GUY I RESPECT YOU AND YOU ARE ONE OF THE FEW KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK YOU DO
Personally, i don't think it matters what setup you have, total system wattage is how hot the room is going to get. Might start out slowly heating, but the system will cool its self eventually, blasting all the hot air into the room making up the lost time. Pc's are just heaters with low (idle) and high (gaming) settings in my own opinion.
Jay needs to move into his parents basement. Always chill down there.
I swear sometimes i think my pc could run below 0 in my basement.... only an r2700x an 1050ti here. Not really super hot bois, but the idea still applies
@@sammy_1_1 "your" basement...😕...but...oh. Yeah me too. My basement.
This video is a great example of the law of conservation of energy. It is neither created or destroyed, only transferred. Back to school soon, looking forward to teaching science again!
My computer is on a custom loop that's hooked up to a 3/4hp chiller I run in my hallway outside my room. Not only is my setup silent, all of the heat is dumped in the hallway, I only wish I had done it even sooner.
Do you have any guides to do this?
Adam how are your temps? (In game not room)
HERE IN GREECE WE HAVE very hot summer and this week we have more than 40 c. My pc is CPU: RYZEN 7 1700
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS
GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING
MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO
HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB
HDD2: 1 TB
CASE: AEROCOOL 800
SSD: MP 600 2TB
PSU: CM 750M 750 WATT
and i noticed that while playing games maxed 1440p the graphics card temprerature goes up to 87c! I wonder.... When finaly graphics card avalaibiltiy becoems better and get a RTX 3070 TI or RTX 3080TI(depends on which one of the two i wil find first) will in very hot days on summer the graphics card temperature gets even hooter or not?
@@Xerostarry No guide, but it really is very easy. Obviously you need a custom loop and a chiller. I run a EK double pump setup in the chassis and it provides plenty of flow/pressure for a cpu and two video cards, plus 40ft of automotive 3/4" heater hose.
@@allaroundgaming100 My 3090 run at 21c under full load. I limit how low the chiller goes to avoid any condensation issues.
"I can just open the Windows in Winter and it keeps it nice and cool around 60 F" I wish... Your Winter is like Spring :D
Yeah, he's spoiled by the Californian climate. I live in North Carolina (which is NOT by any stretch a cool state) and our winter highs are still 30-50 degrees Fahrenheit.
I also live in SoCal, but have lived in NY state, so can confirm that winter here is spring elsewhere (though summer SUCKS. Hit 121F/49.5C last summer here)
@@brianfox340 hit 110 F in 2019 during summer a few times. It's getting a bit too much at that point.
A lot of people don't realize this but the power you consume with a device more or less will act as a equivalent wattage heater. So a 600w PC will act like a 600 watt heater running in your room.
Same with bulbs say you have a 100w incandescent bulb. About 95w of it is heat from the start. The other 5w is light. That 5w light in an enclosed room will bounce around till it gets absorbed and converts into the additional 5w heat.
It all goes back to heat. Mechanical energy, sound, electromagnetic waves. They all turn back into heat which pretty much to my understanding can be considered one of the simplest forms of energy.
Here in Sweden, I'm glad my PC put out a lot of heat, in the wintertime that is! 😄
My house is built back in 1909 and it consists of dense timber construction that's insanely well insulated from the winter cold. Even so, it can be a bit nippy in the mornings and nights when it's getting below -20°C. At these times I'm glad my PC is a bit toasty! 😛
Yeah well it must be nice living in a colder country..
@@Rohgamu ehm, no... I love warm weather and hate the cold lol! 😄 There's no good thing with a cold climate. It's cold, wet and just in your way. It's slippery, hard to shift around if you don't have powertools to move a lot of snow and I HATE scraping my car windows every morning and have frozen doors etc just because I don't have a garage!
I so wish I could live in a warmer climate but things are what they are... I say give it 5 years and it's a desert anyway due to the climate change so... lol! 🙄
@@RobertForslund I live in tropical climate and it sucks during summer time
@@Rohgamu I guess that's how it goes... When you live with a certain climate all the time you wish for something else when it gets more extreme! 🤔