Is your PC making your room a SAUNA!? Try these tips!
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2024
- The summer months are almost here and with that brings the HEAT! Today's video discusses the reasons your PC is turning your room into a sauna and how to help fight the heat!
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My PC is not a mini heater, it is a second sun
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Intel cpu ehh?
@@viperpit-lr2rphey I resemble that comment 😂
Running an old time Pentium 4? lol
No joke, as a Canadian, I have space heater running 8 months of the year. When I start gaming, the space heater is not required.
I live in northern US and i use a space heater in every room in my home except my bedroom that has my pc works great
I live in the Midwest and my house isn't well insulated. I need some 14000ks and 4090s to heat my home. Any takers?
NE BC here. Winter is 9+ months, then it's forest fire season for the rest of the year. So keeping things cool when it's 40c+ outside and 45-50c indoors is a pain.
If you can afford it, run world community grid on headless decent core count CPUs instead. That's what I've been doing for decades. That way you can heat your home and help advance humanitarian scientific endeavors, like cancer research, finding new drug therapies, etc.
The sadder part is that you have justin 12 months a year.
The tldr for the folks. Either reduce wattage usage of the PC or start considering room treatments. Replace windows with high efficiently ones, Blackout curtains or sun refection material. New wall insulation, a room specific AC unit, or a box fan to help will air movement.
Thank you for your service!
This video is too long. 13 min in and still no info on how to fix the issue. I just stopped watching
thanks bro. had it on two times speed and he hadnt given one tip yet Lol.
Hi Jay, I have done thermal dynamics in an engineering course and found your explanation very well thought out. The only thing I could add is "if you have a 1000 Watt power supply then the PC will, on full load, be about a 1000 Watt heater". A lot of theory in this but shown/described in an easily digested manner. Good to see you add the approximate wattage of a single person as very few know that we are heaters as well.
You look as though your health is getting better too. Great to see.
Thank you for your videos.
Terry from Australia.
11:23 the sun is an even bigger heat source than your computer.
Intel: challenge accepted 😂
Putting aside the cost of 4090’s and all of that, one of the reasons why I despise the current trend of just increasing power consumption each generation is that it just means more heat is getting generated and more space is getting taken up.
Haha yeah. They aren't able to increase efficiency or they are trying to yo hold out on it so have more products they can produce since we are starting to reach the end of mores law.
So true, I hate when people say "if you can afford a 4090 you can afford the electricity" - that's not the problem! It's 450w+ of heat
@@flynn6531 Isn't that the same reason why reviewers used to complain about S.L.I?
Just to show you how good S.L.I is/was when supported properly even on mGPU.
in Deus Ex Mankind Divided I have RTX 2080ti's in S.L.I & I can match a RTX 4090 in 4K, & before you ask about stuttering, No, it does not stutter either. it's pretty much exactly the same fps.
Personally, I find it funny that a lot of games are still stuttering on single card just as much even without the use of multi-card setups. Nothing changed by going to single GPU, just the prices really.
Blame the consumers. They kept buying into the trend and that signaled manufacturers that people will deal with whatever heat issues their components might have as long as they can deliver the miniscule performance figures people can only notice by measuring them. If the trend continues, custom water cooling loops will become mandatory for high and enthusiast hardware. "Oh, if a server CPU can idle at 500W, so can your consumer grade CPUs."
You need to blame physics.
I put a mini split hvac in my gaming room and it solved all my cooling problems. Best thing I ever did and worth every penny.
Yeah I just put a really nice window a/c unit in my room, half the vents point towards the computer, the rest towards me, and it stays pretty comfy. Of course my computer only produces maybe a max of 700w of heat under full load. It helps on those hot Alabama summer days.
@@jtjones4727 That’s perfect, I almost did a window air conditioner as well. I live in Texas, so I needed something to cool the room. On top of that, I was able to remove the ceiling fan and put pulleys on the ceiling for my VR headset cable.
That's a good plan... Cool my PC that takes 1KW of power with an air conditioner that requires 2KW of power. Nothing inefficient there!
@@michaelstanley5215 That’s not true, mini split systems typically use anywhere from 500 to 1500 watts. Mine runs at around 800 average.
@Night360 it depends on the design and rated power. Typically a 1ton (3.5kw) of cooling requires about 1.2 kw of power at full load. However, remember the cooling is on top of the power you are already spending to power your computer and peripherals. To keep a room with you and your computer cool, you could easily be using half a ton of capacity.
Started when I ran a custom waterloop but still use it today with AIO setups. Just grabbed a rectangular hvac to round adapter at HDepot and ran 4" round black flex tubing up into my drop ceiling in my basement gaming room. Use that in the summer to exhaust all hot air from the top of my pc case up above the drop ceiling. In the winter I cap it off and use the PC to heat the room. Works great. The HVac piece has magnets at the bottom and it just sticks to the top of my case. Easy to remove come winter time.
I hope the new GN video doesn't mess up your watercooling video plans
I just finished watching that as this was being published, found it to be amusing timing
Coming here straight from that lol
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Pretty sure Alpha cool has supplied more.than EK has
I was thinking I wonder how Jay is going to address the whole EK situation. It's not like he has anything to do with it, I am just curious what he thinks about all of this since he's been using them forever.
Sorry Jay, Concrete is NOT a good insulator. R rating is about 0.15 per inch. The reason a slab is cold even in the summer months is because the slab is in contact with the ground. The ground is the worlds largest heat sink, and it won't warm nearly as fast as the air around it. Go out in your 'garden' and dig 6" deep. It's COLD compared to everything around it. Because the ground doesn't warm as rapidly as the air around it.
While I agree with most of this vijayo, a feller needs to remember...concrete is NOT a good insulator. I tried to do the right thing and ignore it, but yea...couldn't do it.
Imma guess that what he meant was plaster walls. Older homes and apartments in CA were built with plaster and the walls are so solid you would think it is concrete.
@@davidilie3795 Dunno...he mentions the studio floor being "cold". That's because it's in contact with cold ground and the R-Value is so low that cold just goes right through the concrete. It's why you need insulation down under a radiant floor slab. Been looking into those for my retirement shop where I live. Know a couple that have them, and one was told "BAH, you don't need no stinking insulation". Yea...he can't even run his radiant heat because it just won't work". :(
So, burry your radiator in the soil outside?
@@georgebenson3826 LOL....That's a great idea for Jay to try out. LOL...Actually Linus kind of did something like this...the "Whole House Water Cooler" where they plumbed all the machines to a massive radiator to the outside. If memory serves, it really didn't do as well as they hoped.
@@georgebenson3826 Check out geothermal heat pumps. People bury long coils of water tubing and use that as the radiator for their AC units.
One of my favorite topics, heat transfer and fluid flow!!
When we moved into our house, the dining room was the computer room. And since our HVAC at the time was not sized for the house, let alone balanced. The west sun made it hotter than heck! We planted a river birch tree. And it helped keep that end of the house cooler.
if you can't avoid the heat generated by either your PC or the weather outside, having a high ceiling helps (unless you're tall)
but Jay's advice about crossflow (two or more windows open) is prime info.
I have a portable AC unit in my home office. I have to run it pretty much all the time during the spring, summer, and fall. (I'm in Texas.) But in winter, it gets a break :)
name of u AC unit?
@@intermilan9731 It's a Honeywell. You can buy them at stores like Home Depot, Lowes, and even Amazon. They're about $400-$600 for a big enough one to help.
It's basically a window unit, except it doesn't stick out the window, which my HOA wouldn't allow :) It does exhaust out the window with a slick little attachment that fits in your window sill. (But you definitely have to have a window available, or it will just blow the hot air back into the room.)
I had considered that route, I live in a HOA so, no window unit or wall units that could be seen by a neighbor even though I am on a cul de sac and have not right be me house smh.. Any how, how do you plumb the drain and where do you remove the heat from the unit?
@@killer01ws6 We used a big 10K BTU Hisense "portable" unit for a year when our central unit quit. While we never had to drain ours I cannot say every single unit is like that. Especially older ones. They're always going to have a small tank to hold the condensate and a plug on the back to drain it if needed. As for removing the heat most units use some of the inside air to cool the condenser or hot side and dump it outside using a hose and a nearby window. These are less efficient though the loss is lower than you'd expect. A few are dual hose units meaning they use air from outside to cool the condenser much like a window unit. If you wanted to get creative you could dump the waste heat to an attic or a crawlspace if you're on a foundation. But they all have window kits from what I've seen. In any event you should consider insulating the hose coming off the hot side with the same stuff they use on duct work. Makes a big difference
Lol... I have the same setup. Im in Georgia and man it gets extremely hot in my office while gaming.
Removed a single pane from my window and built a cardboard and duck tape vent to send exhaust straight outside. Worked incredibly well for a couple weeks until my wife noticed (admittedly it looked pretty janky, even from outside in the yard)
I do about the same. I have an external radiator (MoRa) and in spring and autumn when it's comfortable 20-25C outside but PC will bring room temperature up to 28-30C - I just open balcony, place radiator near it and face exhaust outside.
And in the winter I can place whole radiator outside to cool down water for fun and 3dmark runs with 25C average with 4090. But it doesn't work in summer because it is 35C outside, so neither I can open door/window to exhaust hot air outside nor I can place radiator outside. So AC is the only answer.
Just make a more aesthetic version of it :)
It really is the best thing to do with thermal waste in warm weather.
I'm so glad you made this.
Omg I remember that room Jay. Got such a nostalgia hit when you talked about 😊
Here in Sauna's home land. Still waiting for a warm day.
why is your room hotter because the cooler is transferring the heat into the rooms air faster then before plain and simple making it more of a sauna and if it's cooler it will turbo more often and thus make more heat then before plain and simple
Bro you're about to get even more snow 💀
@@JetFuelSE We sure did! Spring got denied lol
Torille!
@@MSLcorp Jos toi lumisade loppus, tais onneks vihdoin loppua
Recently got a 4090 and my office has become a swedish sauna with it starting to get warmer in Scotland
How do you not have air conditioning or even a good case with a lot of good fans in it?
@@ZackSNetworkgood case and fans doesn't help cooling down the room.. it makes it warmer because it is dissipating heat more efficiently...
@@ZackSNetwork we don't need air conditioning in Scotland. When we say it's getting hotter it's above 0 deg C. Right now it's 6 deg C and about 13-14 at its hottest, it's shorts at T shirt weather now 😅
Playing helldivers my 4090 was going mental, and the heat in the room got crazy. Ended up limiting my fps to 144 just to bring the heat down. Come winter I will get the fps pumping again to keep me warm Hahaha bring on 6 months of rain till winter
@@onitable yup, and anything at or beyond 27 degrees is 7th circle of hell...
i used to work for a communications company and we used to build out server rooms. and the hvac system cooling those room were insanely huge. once all the switches, servers UPSes.. etc were in place but not yet powered up, the hvac system would have that room at about 35 degrees F once all the server equipment was started up.. it would quickly come up from freezing to around 75 or 80 very quickly.. its amazing how much heat this stuff puts out.. i live in a 1 bed room apartment and when i first moved in i had a large number of computers running in here.. in the winter i never had to run the heat.. in fact those pc's generated so much heat.. the roof above my apartment was the only section of the roof no no snow on it for pretty much the entire winter..
Yes Jay thanks for not forgetting water cooling reviews.
Much appreciation for the reminders/review! SoCal gamer/homeowner here too, and I definitely have different clock settings for each season. And building my wife's first pc upgrade in 10yrs, we're absolutely thinking of home/room thermal management. 😅
Jay feeling hot and struggling at 32C daytime weather.
Meanwhile, me and my PC boiling at 42C during day and 32C with 85% humidity at night 💀
I legitimately don't think I can live where you live.
I feel you bro.
Since you mentioned humidity at night I had to check in my area and damn its 94% at 31C no wonder it feels sticky as heck when sweating.
I feel you. The humidity is so high that my sweat doesn't even cool me anymore. So fucking lame.
That's basically water cooled already
@@stickfigureman3DI can, cuz im feeling a heatwave in my country rn, so it feels like its 40 fucking c.
Thanks for going over this Jay
This type of videos are very useful for people living in Tropical region where 39-41 celsius is common in summers. Good job Jay!
Few years ago, I bought some soft tubes, drilled some holes on the walls, watercooled my computer and put the radiator outside.
I also have an external radiator and I'm contemplating putting it in the next room and drilling through the wall to run tubing.
How does that work for you? Also do you ever reach freezing temps outside?
It worked well (it was my 3080, I upgraded since and my new gpu is aircooled).
It was during the mining trend, so I left my computer on and mining 24/7 (except when I played games). So the water was always heated, even when the outside temps were below 0°C.
I never had problems, my memory was ~50°C while mining, the gpu was ~45°C when paying games.@@TheTimothydragon
@@TheTimothydragon If the temps outside drop below ambient in the room with the computer you'll run into the potential for condensation to form, which is why water chillers for PCs aren't really a thing. I've thought about this as well but it gets too cold outside.
@@tmoore121 What if you always idle it would that change anything?
Motivating quote of the day from J2C "Be fucking productive." 😂
This video is not only informative but entertaining.
Thanks Jay.
So my system is in a bedroom turned office. I've managed to mostly mitigate the temperature by making more effective use of the house AC. I'm using AC Infinity register fans, one intake from the register system and one exhaust in the return. Hence that room circulates air in to the HVAC system faster than the rest of the house and helps equalize that room with the overall house temperature. Side benefit, during the winter, it's feeding the PC air straight in to the rest of the house, providing "free" bonus heat...
I reduced the heating of the room problem significantly by taking out the HDD's from my heater box and putting them inside a NAS and putting that NAS in a different room. The irritating noise of the drives clicking was gone.... and the cumulated heat from them was no longer going into the room. This meant that the PSU was working less and produced less heat, in addition to the drives no longer producing heat.
You wouldn't think this makes much difference but over time it does.
Your solution is basically a 2nd PC in a different room, lol. Hard drive heat output, while not zero, is pretty negligible compared to a CPU and GPU that have fans or radiators literally blowing heat out like a space heater.
@@Jeff-66 Nope, not basically a second pc in the other room. A NAS does not act like a second computer even though is functionally is. It makes a load of noise for starters.....and when you actually have to manage the heat in your room....the fact is, the mkte heat sources you can remove is improving it. 4 HDD's at idle add heat and the moment you ask one to spin up, it is adding to the cumulated heat.....not the isolated heat.
I do agree the bulk of the heat comes from the CPU and the GPU but I had my four HDD's right behind the intake fan at the front of the chassis so although they were actually kept cool.....it's still causing Luke warm air to be the baseline for the rest of the case.
Why don't you make a video and show how removing 4 HDD's from a rig is only minimal as you claim. It made a significant difference for me, especially when 3/4 are spun up and in use.
@@Jeff-66 When you have enough of them it can add up. Especially with older or performance oriented drives
Even if your home is well insulated and whatnot, one major thing you can have done to help cool your gaming room/office/bedroom better while having the door closed is have an HVAC company run an extra return in it or an adjoining closet. It usually only costs $300-600 to do this.
I recently did this and had the return put in my office's closet(that functions as a small server rack closet too).
Now all my server and networking gear stays relatively cool, and my office with my gaming rig stays comfortable too.
Same principle also applies if you have a wing of your house that is always kinda warm too(and likely isn't getting good return airflow).
Here in Florida, it costs $300-600 to have an HVAC park their truck in your driveway.
here in California you just dont get to own a home at all 🥲
We have a dining room next to my office/mancave/computer room. I took two 140mm fans and wired them to my computer and cut a hole in the wall. I put a metal vent in the dining room and created a box out of 1/4 ply that allows the air to come out of the top of my computer and out into the dining room. This keeps my room mostly cool. It also allows my room to vent out and get air in with the door closed. Works really well.
great video as always
Back in the FX days I deliberately used my builds as heaters in the winter
I still do, Folding at Home during the winter works well.
For many years, I have caught myself thinking "Gees it's really chilly... I'd better do some gaming".
@@kathrynck Same. Colder times are a great time to play more demanding games.
@@kathrynck well the reality is at the time my house had really lousy heating so any port in a storm back then
@@noidont8149 Well, I've "enough" heat, overall. But the furnace ducts play havoc with my allergies. So I try to get by on the bare minimum. Single story though, that floor gets COLD ;)
It’s starting to heat up here in Orange County CA but it was nice to have my mini heater during our cold months. 😂
Our normal hot temps here in OC have thankfully so far been delayed. In the meantime, I'm having an A/C return added to my home office directly over my PC for when it does hit.
Try here in Houston Tx!
Breathing through a hot wet sock ever since february.
@@bme7491 yep plan on installing one too
@@kirvu9677 It was pretty nice eary feb when it was like 17 degrees tho lol
This was a great video with a lot of useful information! Thanks for taking the time to explain it in terms anyone can understand.
In my case, I have NO AC in any of the rooms of my house. I have my PC in a concrete room, under my desk. Next to my desk I have the entrance to the balcony. What I did is I placed my desk next to it and left a bit of spacing between it and the wall. In the evening, which is when I usually have time to enjoy some games, I open the balcony window door halfway and my room door open. This makes it so cold air comes in from outside and through the spacing between the desk and wall directly to my PC and then exits the room.
It's really efficient and I always do this. I recommend that people try this too because it works great, and doesn't need to use any AC unit or other cooling devices.
I really love the new tips videos recently ... Keep up the great work
I’m 12 minutes in and still waiting for those tips…
16:06
Thx for the question & tip helping with the question 😅
He does a really good job explaining things first. He's talking about thermal dynamics in the beginning.
It's like you're in my head or something. This is exactly the problem I'm trying to solve. I'm in Florida and it's already getting hot here. I am already having issues just running my 45 inch TV and a PS5 in my bedroom and it getting hot. But now I want to build a gaming PC and I'm worried it's just going to be too much. I am totally referencing this video as I shop for parts and when it's all up and running. This video is so well timed. Thank you.
I hear you, unfortunately the only answer is to move that hot air out into a cooler area. You just have to get creative with how you do that. Moving heat away from the room is always going to work better than trying to bring cool air in. If you have a window in that room, consider just getting a small window AC, which does just that. It evacuates heat energy from the room and returns cold air.
Only recommendation I can give is even if you have the budget to get a RTX 4090 and 14900k, don't. There are very few games that will benefit from that much raw horsepower, so the majority you'll play will just be wasting power.
And in that same thinking, turn on frame limits. If your TV or monitor is only 144hz, limit the game to 144fps. If you leave frame rate unlimited, then your PC or console will be going as hard as it can to make 300 or 400 or however many fps it can at max power, but you'll only be seeing 144fps. If you cap it in the game settings, then the PC will throttle back to only make 144 fps, which lowers how many watts of power it uses and puts out as heat.
Install a cold air return above your door
What a timely video. Love you, Jay
I live in the UK. Any warmth from anywhere is greatly appreciated xD
Lol try living in a tropical country during peak summer, with no HVAC or AC (or one which is used sparingly due to high energy costs), and using a high-end rig. That's what real torture feels like.
Was just gonna make a similar comment then I saw yours and I say YES
staying in a tropical country i can confirm this ...
How tf do u spend money on a computer but not shelter? Its gotta be weird that u cant afford ac or fans but somehow have a "high end" gaming rig....which is all contigent on taste anyway.
@@conm9891 some tropical countries don't have the infrastructure to provide high power demands such as central air, etc. The user may have an otherwise decent shelter, but the community doesn't have the infrastructure for extra perks like central air.
Good time to utilize framerate caps. Maybe 90fps, 120fps etc.
My solution in the summer is, take the old portable AC I used at an apartment that didn't have AC and put that in my computer room. In the winter, crank the pc up for the "free" heat! I will say I think that my old comp actually heated my room more not because it ran hotter, but was more consistently hot while running due to less airflow/etc. I used to use crossflow through a computer room before like Jay mentioned, but allergies keep me from opening windows for most of the year now. 🤧
I wouldn’t call running your P.C. in the winter “free heat” since a gaming P.C. uses a lot of electricity.
And that's why I went with a newer mini split heat pump system each room has its own cooling and heating controlled by the temp of the room.
I built a (for the time) powerhouse gaming PC with custom water-cooling for my 40th birthday in 2020 as a consolation for working my *** off in COVID and for the fact I couldn't go anywhere or do anything.
My room is south-facing, and the temps got to the wrong side of 34c.
So, I installed a powered exterior blind to keep the worst of the sun off the window and got a couple of small evaporative air coolers. In summer 2021, the temperature still got on the wrong side of 30c, but I could at least sit in a small bubble of slightly cooler air.
For 2022, I got myself an EcoFlow Wave 2 AC unit.
Now i manage to keep my room below 26 with no major issues.
This was such a problem for me that I have decided to completely swap my bedroom with my computer room. Last year during the peak of Texas heat, my brand new AC unit and brand new windows weren't enough to keep me from sweating at my desk. And while this room is slowly cooling down, the rest of the house is a like a walk-in freezer.
Mini split hvac for that room. Will save you money in the long run.
Texas gang gang. I'm going to undervolt My cpu this summer once texas heat kicks in
As a sensitive to cold cinephile, during winter I always like to launch a blu ray encoding with Handbrake to warm my room up lol
Handbrake + Cyber Punk 2077 at max settings at the same time.
Hey Jay, Although I was aware of most of that, It did give me an idea or two to try so thank you. Much appreciated.
I live in a tiny studio apartment that gets pretty toasty in the summer, so I ended up getting one of those portable AC units, and made sure it was powerful enough to deal with both me and my computers. Getting blackout curtains also lowered the temperature quite noticeably.
We have coldest April for a long time here in Finland, so I'm happy when my PC makes my room sauna.
with, or without EK?
Building off of what Jay said at the end there, that’s basically what I did. I also have a bedroom with to windows on two different walls. I put a window fan in both, one intake, one exhaust. I also set up a vent system for my pc with a vent at the top and an insulated flexible r6 hvac pipe, 4 inches in diameter not including fiberglass insulation. I have 5 intake fans and 3 exhaust fans in the PC case. I sealed off any large extra vents on the case with proper DUCT tape to prevent the over pressure from coming out of the sides and back. I am aware that the over pressure might over spin the top fans, but I have 3 120mm 1500 rpm intake fans and 2 160mm 1600 rpm intake fans. To balance that there are 3 120mm 2000 rpm exhaust fans that blow through my radiator. The insulated hvac pipe leads to a 90 degree elbow fitting that goes out the window held in place by a custom wood frame, and rests perfectly next to the window fan. For anybody wondering, the PC uses about 400 watts. Yes, that may be comparatively small to other systems, but it can and has heated up my bedroom from a comfortable 74 Fahrenheit to an unbearable 82+ Fahrenheit. Yes, my ac unit sucks. Yes, our whole house gets very hot in the summer. We have a cheap old unit that needs replacing. The whole setup for extracting hot air probably cost around $100 USD. The window fans were $30 USD each, I got a good deal on the insulated hvac pipe and fitting at Menards for around $30 USD for both the pipe and elbow connector. It would be more expensive if you chose a 6” diameter tube. Only get a foil tube, not plastic. Those aren’t made for hot air, they’re made to exhaust room temperature gasses or plain air. If you do this, your PC needs to have plenty of fans, and extra vents on the case need to be sealed off. Hope this helped somebody.
Edit: I should also mention that I put fiberglass screen on the end of the elbow fitting so no bugs get in. And the window, despite having the fan and wood frame for the fitting, is sealed and doesn’t let any air or bugs in. I also have a solid cover set up for the inside end of the pipe so that I don’t get any airflow from outside.
If you live in the north like I do (Minnesota), you can definitely use the weather to your advantage. I set my desk up in front of a window so the exhaust fan on the back of my case can blow directly outside when I crack the window open a little bit. It works good year round as long as the temps outside are not too high, but in the winter (since hot moves to cold) the heat is basically sucked outside.
Omg almost identical timing to Linus release also cooling related
This is a long video to just say "You don't "cool" things, you transfer heat out of them."
We have two setups in one room, during the winter we open our window and put a box fan in it to bring in cold air. During the summer we leave our door open, drop the Ac down two more degrees (67) and then use the box fan in the hallway to bring in cold air from it.
A appreciate this video. Thanks
Yo Jay, Aussie here and have been dealing with an overly hot room for years. Have made a change recently though that has helped heaps. I added quick disconnects into the back of my loop, then added a spare D5 / res I had on a shelf, some long hose and a 280mm rad with some fans on it. In summer I can hang the thing in front of the aircon and it makes the water loop ~ 23C, which means the PC is now cooling the room rather than heating it and I can run the aircon at a higher temp and lower fan, while maintaining room temp. Or if it's colder at night outside, then I can flip it over and it sits in the window pulling colder air in. Right now its 22C in the room, 10C outside, and the water loop is maintaining 25C.
I live in Florida and my solution was to put my PC in the storage room, on the other side of the wall I sit next to. I made a small hole in the wall for the cables. Then I took off the side panels for the PC and put a 24 inch box fan next to it. Even with the AC vents closed in that room it runs at perfectly acceptable temps.
@Mr.Morden omfg😂 I live in south central Florida and I almost did some very similar. I ended up getting a flexible duct with an in line fan to pull the exhaust up to the HVAC heat return vent.
@@Mr.Morden I posted a similar solution, I used optical cables routed through the attic. Here in TX it gets unbareable during the summer but now I have one hot room in the house while I'm fine. Also no loss in performance with one room at 80F, running 13900KS & 4090.
You can "pump those numbers" and get MoRa.
Bonus points: with MoRa you don't need any space for radiators and pumps inside the case (especially with dual d5 module for mora) and you can get quite compact case.
Love this idea man cheers heaps pretty cold here near Canberra haha
Nice dad rant lol. 14 minutes and you're FINALLY getting to the explanation that cooling something faster doesn't mean less heat.
edit: finished watching. I've always kinda wanted to just move my tower to the other side of the wall (or floor) and run slightly longer cables directly through.
If I have a fan on me, it often gets to 80-85f before I even really notice the door is closed. When I open the door it will go down to ~75f and with the fan it's perfectly comfortable for me. (disclosure: I drove 2 years in Phoenix without AC... got used to it)
Just because we know most of this on the surface, the way you explain it in your way makes it much more enjoyable to watch and listen too….. you would have been a legendary science teacher in another life, your enthusiasm is infectious sometimes, and thats why we watch your videos 👌😊
Hvac guy here, a 1 ton minisplit will be PLENTY supplemental cooling for your room and more affordable to boot. I've serviced countless businesses with smallish server racks and they're served by 1 ton minis and work perfectly fine. Just keep up with the maintenance and it'll be damn reliable.
At some point I'm going to turn a minisplit condenser into a computer case.
In the UK last year i only experienced about 3 days where it was too hot to game lol
I would assume the perfect situation would be if you had your computer desk buy a window, and the rear exhaust fans are blowing all the hot air outside of the window lol
That can cause problems too, since you're creating negative pressure and will cause more warm air from outside to leak into your home. This is why most portable air conditioners suck
I used to think that having a vent directly from pc to a window will fix any heating issues. I then found out that due to how insualtion, pressure and airflow works, I was pretty much creating access for heat to easily exchange into my already well insulated home. Not to mention the humidity and dust that will flow back to the pc regardless of fans
Don't make my mistake and just simply turn on the fan mode on your centralized ac instead. U can get a window unit if you really want to simply focus on cooling your room but that's ultimately a little less efficient and a lot louder.
@@partycatplays Yes definitely. Please Imagine all the dust coming inside the bedroom with the window open (depending on where you live). I guess if you want a computer that doesn't overheat you have to search components that dont use so much power. Basically avoiding high end intel cpus and high end amd gpu. Gotta find a middle balance. Sure undervolting is a choice but im sure everyone loves to have everything out of the box. I fixed my overheating problem by buying a Cougar Airface tower case, which has its front intake fans very close to all the components. meaning you're not really exhausting hot air, because you're not giving your components a chance to get hot in the first place... max temps are 65 and 63 on gpu and motherboard while gaming. 71 and 72 at artificial stress test.
PS. Silent Wings 4 High speed are the best fans in the world
Easy way for people to see your pc and pull it right out the window and drive off or get robbed tho
@@ianpogi256 bold of you to assume everyone has centralized ac
Happy to see you’re looking healthier jay.
great vod jayy
Coming straight from the EK video from GN, this was a nice and much needed mood change.
My PC can get a bit spicy. It was a nice to have when my heater failed for a bit over the past winter.
Edit: 19:44 Can confirm. I work concrete. Also did you know that when concrete is poured, the initial drying process (curing) is actually a chemical reaction between the ingredients and water, and that chemical reaction is an exothermic reaction? Concrete is a heat source for the first part of its life, albeit not a strong source.
back when I did construction it was always nice to lay on a monolithic pad a few days after the pour, used it to warm up in the morning while waiting for the day to start
I think I've heard of some fire or something like that happened on a construction site because they poured to much concrete and didn't account for heat whatsoever. Probably it was a tunnel...
my friend has his gaming setup in this really small room and it gets so hot in there, he sits there in his underwear sweating his ass off and his pc is overheating at the same time, it's funny
That does not sound funny.
Same. I have a bunch of fans, but all they do is blow the same hot air onto my face, so it's kinda pointless. Hopefully I can get an AC unit soon, that will solve the heat issue.
@@Jeff-66 it's not funny to experience but it's funny when we talk about it
I've been in love with open air cases for years now. Less convection heat and more ambient temps can really help with heat dispersion. Thermaltake's P3 case for example is AMAZING. Although you might find yourself dusting/cleaning more often than you would with a closed case.
Another tip?, if you have an AIO and a closed case?, try putting the rad outside of the case if you are front mounting. Pop off the case face and mount it there with the fans sucking air in or in a push/pull config. It helps stave off convection heat.
Finally more wc content. I’m finally ready to build a loop this summer
Jay you must be kicking yourself in the ass because of what EK block is doing
Last year he stopped his collaboration with Asus.
Now I think he will stop his collaboration with EK.
But fortunately there are many other companies, I don't think it will be a problem for Jayz.
@@simoSLJ89 to be fair Jayz never disclosed most of what his 99 problems were, so this could well be one of them.
What has ek done?
@@pippifpv
You might want to watch Nexus gamer
@@pippifpvthey're not paying their bills, including salaries. Gamers Nexus put out a video about it today. Steve was **not** happy. They even had to mute a word.
Should have named it "Is your PC making your room a HOT BOX!? Try these tips!" as it's 420 and why not shitpost when you can.
My niece lives in SoCal and says it is way cooler on a hot day there in the summer than it is in Mississippi on a cool day. I agree with her it's nice there all year.
Im inpressed keep it up
Anyone else find it frustrating that you have to watch a 20 min video to be provided with "tips" such as open a window or put an A/C unit in your room. I can see the stop pushing your pc so hard doing minimal tasks as a tip, but for those of us who need to intentionally push our PC hard were basically given no tips that weren't already common knowledge.
I have 5 PCs in the downstairs Office that the family uses. In the winter it’s a blessing and we still need to open the door to cool it down. In the summer it’s a bit toasty if our AC isn’t running.
Jay is being incredibly kind to idiots starting at 2:10.
when i started looking up components thanks to you and your channel for my first PC I lived in Arizona and my apartment was around 80 in the summer to combat the 110-120 heat days. i noticed a difference with my xbox and dreaded a PC. i built it after I moved and now I live in new England, where its COLD AF! have not had to worry about heat since coming here but I have had to worry about electric bill. ( last 2 plases I lived were on solar so basically no cost )
Jay: Using crosswinds in his room to cool his PC.
Linus: Moves his PC into technical room and uses whole pool to cool it down.
I used to have this huge old dell workstation in my bedroom and I just opened the window to the width of the case, and in the summer faced the back end out the window (gasketed with a few pieces of foam rubber) so the heat blew straight outside. In the winter, I just turned it the other way so it was pulling cold air inside and blowing warmed air into my room. It worked really well, especially in winter since the machine's heat sinks were a joke, but I wouldn't do it again because moisture put some rust on the back grille and possibly other hidden areas.
I live this as an someone that works in a data center. Front of the rack is blasting at like 54 degrees but just 48 inches away at the back of the rack it's in the 90s. HVAC is hardest part of the job in Florida.
I get asked the question a lot too. Being in Texas we face the same summer issues.
In the summer i let my PC and my ps5 to relax in the "shade" and i only use apple arcade for "minute" gaming :) ... i found out that after 3 months of scorching summer heat, i come back in autumn recharged and see my gaming "boys" nice and healthy :)
Okay, you win, that hyte y70 is so damned pretty i didn't skip the ad for once.
I live in Western Australia and the temperature throughout summer is almost always around 40 degrees celsius. Homes over here are built using double brick walls and insulation in both the ceiling and under the roof. I also run a 3 phase ducted RC air conditioner. At night we open a window and run ceiling fans but the bedroom is chilled during the day with the AC. Electricity is expensive at 30c per kilowatt hour so only using the AC when really necessary is a mantra that most use. Our electricity prices are about double the cost compared to the USA.
We moved all of our computers into the basement. Heats the basement in the summer and winter. I previously ran a 12000 btu window AC on top of central air to keep the top of the house cool. Now the house is well balanced and comfortable!
Thanks for this video. Would live to see the video showing heat over time. 😊
I have a 3D printed slat for my exhaust on my PC to direct the hot air away from where I sit and game. It helps a ton actually. Combined with cracking a window, it's pretty comfy while the PC is running like a jet.
As an HVAC technician there are many ways to keep your room cool. There’s levels to it depending how much money you’re willing to spend. The simplest cheapest thing to do is get a fan and exhaust the hot air outside.
I live in a concrete building (Eastern Europe is full with them). In summer nights you can feel the heat which is absorbed into the concrete radiate out. Luckily I have a tree front of my gaming room which helps a lot, but an AC is a must to have in the summers.
Thanks for the tips and tricks! I learned a lot more than I thought I would, and will be sure to use that "double open window" trick.
Although you mentioned under clocking, I am genuinely surprised you forgot to suggest adding a frame rate cap to each game that already runs faster than your monitor's refresh rate. A large chunk of people have PC's that run something like Minecraft at 450 fps on their 144hz monitor. By capping their frame rate, they would save not only CPU and GPU power draw, but also potentially on their power supply, that might be running at the tail of its efficiency curve.
I understand that unlike Jay's solutions of simply upgrading you house's cooling capability, this doesn't apply to everyone. But if this was my scenario, it would be the first thing I'd look into before asking my landlord if I can install an HVAC.
Thanks again for the great content! I look forward to more water cooling episodes (Probably not with EK by the looks of things).
Canadian here. This was great information, but all of the advice was for warm climates (which I get, it’s where he lives), but I’d love to see some of the same advice for colder/moderate climates. For example, all our houses are insulated quite well. That doesn’t help us in the way it helps Jay, it works against us when running hot.
In the winter, I turn my PC on in the morning to heat the room up, the heater in that room is never on, but the rest of the house is kept at 16-20C. In the summer, it can get unbearable in there, and I can’t, for example, insulate the wall to try and help haha
I've got a window unit on one end of the attic, with some vornado air circulators to move the air arount. One circulator is a 'pusher' to kick the cool air across the 20', with a 'return' circulator sitting on top of the PC to kick it's hot air back across the room towards the window AC. Next to the desk, I've got a west facing window with a window fan, pull in cool air overnight / early, exhaust hot air during the day. It's not perfect, but for an attic, I'm usually within a couple degrees of the main floor, with a nice breeze always flowing around.
Hey Jay! HVAC contractor here and a wall hung mini split would do wonders for your room. They cool up to 35°+ across the coil!
My 'summer power profile' reduces my total power by ~ 60-80W. And the cost is about 3-5% performance from maximum that I use in winter time. But the benefit is my comfort, as my office is so much cooler. That wattage saved is constant so it really adds up. It's pretty easy to do but you have to know your own system to determine where you can dial it back a little.
Regarding types of heaters, one common type is referred to as a ceramic heater, which has some kind of heating element sandwiched between large heatsinks with lots of thin fins and has a fan blowing air through between the fins to both cool off the heater itself and carry the heat out. The heater itself doesn't need to stay warm/hot, though likely does still end up quite warm or hot. It does (or at least should if working properly) cool itself enough to keep its likely plastic casing from melting.
Yup, also Jimmy'd a heat catchment on top of PC with a 40mm air con ducting taking hot air to outside via window. But... I put two 40mm PC fans inside the ducting. One closest to the pc and one at the window. Both fans are connected to the motherboard headers that allow me to increase the speeds based on temps. I'm in a really small room and it works a treat. The spinning fans also prevent critters coming in the wrong way. Been a year of using it and so far so good. 😂
Here I was thinking you'd bring up things like energy saving profiles, undervolting, auto screen time-outs. Buying less spec'd parts is sound advice though, keeps heat, initial and usage costs down. Also interested in vents people have, may use that idea for a closet space server, maybe
I have a 10'x15' shed in SW Florida that I turned into my office. The first thing I had installed was R30 Rockwool insulation and second was a 12K BTU mini-spilt A/C unit. It's the opnly was to survive with 2 PC's and a mini server. Understanding thermal dynamics and heat transfer should be a requirement before owning a PC, especially these days with 14900K's going post-nuclear on a regular basis. But alas........ 🤣
I live alone and I don't use the heating system during the winter. I am glad my PC acts like the heater and warms up my room :))
100 foot active usb cables. 100 foot fiber optic hdmi and display port cables.
4090 pc downstairs in vr space.
Removing the pc from the room was the key for me.
I live in the northern US where it gets brutally cold in the winter. I 3d printed a shroud that captures the exhaust heat from my PC and then hooks up to a couple 3" duct elbows to a hole in the wall which is vented into the main room of my house.
It takes much longer to saturate that air with heat as its a much bigger area and in the winter (although marginal) it helps heat my house. At least then the waste heat is put to use.