The interviewer was trying to make Shannon say something petty but Shannon has real class and says that it shows she's also human and everyone makes mistakes at one point , and that Dominique deserved this title.
And they are still friends to this day 👏🏼👏🏼. Check out Dawes’ speech when she was elected into the USA Gym HOF - Miller’s parents attended and she joked about how annoyed she was that Shannon always beat her 😂
@@JamesFrew1 Absolutely. This is how a classy rivalry is done. They pushed eachother to do better and always respected eachother AND were excellent teammates. I miss 90s gymnastics.
For what it's worth, she deserved the Gold on Bars in Atlanta since Khorkina clearly hit the bar in Komova style. That aside, Amy had one of the most difficult vaults in the world with the double twisting vault on the old horse. Uber difficult! She was so talented.
@Janet Merone are you kidding? She didn't focus on it enough? She was on more than one Olympic team, won team and individual gold medals and it wasn't enough for you? Wow.
@@kelliknight126 I agree, I also didn't really understand that comment lol. She pretty much NEVER stopped training, even after the 96 Olympics. Most gymnasts take a year or so off after the Olympics, not Amy.
I much prefer Dominique's floor routine here to the one she used in 96. I can understand why she stopped doing the back to back tumbling runs since they weren't valued as much as they should have been, but her music and choreography here was much better than in her 96 routine.
LOL "Time is running out for Dominique Dawes @ 17". Little did the announcers know...she would not only stick around for the 1996 Olympics...but she would even be a Veteran at the 2000 Games and be a Leader for the "inconsistent" US team in 2000!!!!
He was right, it turned out it was her last shot to win the U.S AA title, as she would win it this year, and never come close again. Remember that is what he was speaking of, not her entire career.
The point he was making was she was aging out of the sport...he were not sure she would last until 96 let alone 2000. Although she did not win another all around after 94 she was a contender... even sweeping all 4 event finals again in 1996.
@@ArtByDesign80 Dawes was mediocre in 2000. The ONLY reason she made the team was the U.S were abysmal that year, and even then she was a barely and controversial choice to many. She did the AA in prelims in Sydney and was 30th something I think, even worse than she was in Barcelona.
I love Amy going over her bar routine afterwards with her coach. And 9.550? I know it had errors, but I can't believe the judges couldn't give her some credit !
Seems like so much of the judging had to do with reputation. I’m really glad she got a few changes to show this routine to international judges and win big later on.
i think for everyone who watched Dawes lose not one, but TWO world championship AA titles with nervous mistakes on the last event, this was a victory for the ages!
Just goes to show how wrong these predictions were, like the one touting all the upcoming juniors as being the nucleus of the 1996 Olympic team. Mocenu was the only junior from 1994 who made the 96 team-the rest were already seniors.
+taminator664 I'm so glad that USA looks to older teens to anchor the team now. They are at their best and can deliver more than just the skills. Nothing better than seeing a floor routine done with personality, which takes time to develop. It was a silly prediction and the Mag 7 changed that perception forever.
They need to bring that kind of tumbling back by rewarding complex combinations. But to be honest, as crowd pleasing as it was, that style of tumbling never did impress the judges much. With the exception of a minor me in 1992, Dawes was always underscored on floor exercise. So much so that she actually completely abandoned her signature pass before the 1996 Olympics, in favor of a double layout mount (which had a higher value). Shame!
So glad 6/7 members of the 96 team totally destroyed the “only young girl” narrative that the media kept trying to push. It was exhausting hearing the commentators call these young women “too old.”
I love how back then everyone was so stuck on small heights, tiny body types & young ages. Look at gymnasts now! They are more mature, some in their 20's & Oksana Chusovitina being in her late 30's. Everyone, whether a new senior or a world stage veteran can be just as talented and up for the same shot at the Olympics. I'm glad the sport has evolved from eating disorders and boxed ideas of perfect gymnasts, to just a sport of amazing women who are athletic & graceful. It's how it should be :)
Graceful??? Hmmm. I don't think so. Look at the beam world championship 2017. A MESS. No mastery of skills, no expression/dance , overtimed routines , etc.... I think true grace was from the 50's to late 90's.
These judges were so biased and smoking crack! How the hell did Miller score a 9.400 on the beam when she basically fell on the dismount? In addition to the mistake on the mount, that should have been an 8.900. And seriously, a 9.9 on the floor exercise - wtf? She only had ONE difficult tumbling pass in the beginning, and she visibly messed up the landing. Dawes routine was way more difficult, with no noticeable mistakes, yet scored basically the same. And how did Miller's second vault score higher than the first one when the first was better? So biased!
+captainbryce1 She was getting the treatment of a two time reigning World AA Champion and five time Olympic medallist (at the time)... It is unfortunate and still happens today. Successful gymnasts are almost always given the "benefit of the doubt" when it comes to scoring :/
Shannon was always overscored. She didnt even deserve her AA world titles in 94 (Kochetkova and Milo both should have beaten her) or 93 (she won with a big mistake, Gogean and Lysenko should have beaten her). Her entire post Barcelona career was basically the judges bending over to make up for her so called controversial AA loss in Barcelona.
Still getting pity marks for not winning in Barcelona as some thought she should have. A parallel is Elvis Stojko who controversially lost in Lillehammer and got overscored the rest of his career to make up for it.
Dustin Gabe No no no. Dina was still low on difficulty on other apparatus. And Milo was very shaky and tight on all her events other than floor. Get over yourself.
Classic from Steve there. 😂 as iconic, amazing, awe inspiring, and world class as Shannon is, it’s kinda crazy she only had one national AA title. Just an insanely deep and talented US team during this quad.
Anyone know who the guy (presumably coach) is at 1:58? Sounds like he makes sense but wondering what time has told about how true he felt those words are as indicated in action.
It’s funny how wrong the commentators were. Other than Dominique M, the Magnificent 7 were all “old ladies”. I do like the foreshadowing when Dom M did her bars, the background floor music was titled “The Magnificent 7”. Also I’m biased, but I miss classical music on floor routines.
I don't know which was funnier, the voice over saying Shannon Miller had to be worried about younger girls coming up or smaller ones. Imagine being 17 years old and less than 5 feet tall and considered too old and too tall for your sport.
I love Amy's hand positioning at the beginning of the floor routine that she did. I love how elegant she looks (Amy) not only on floor but on every event!!
i also think, with the changes that have resulted on a greater focus on difficulty, (in recent years) a lot of the grace, dance elements have been lost. its most obvious when you look back on these routines in the 1990s; floor and especially beam. in beam now days, next to no handstands being held, in various poses - which used to show the gymnasts control and strength; on the floor, i think few things look more beautiful than a single layout with a step out (like at the end of a couple of shannon's tumbling runs) - its so elegant, and the height the gymnasts get, coupled with the apparent 'slowness' in comparison to the double somersaults - but not 'wroth' anything in terms of difficulty. maybe the solution is to add 10 seconds to routines, so they can still aim for more difficulty, but allow for grace still ..
a transition is a type of release, it goes from one bar to another. A release can occur on one bar, like a tchatev or a geinger where they let go and regrasp the same bar. Im sure my spelling sucks, but I hope that makes sense, haha
Shannon, Dominique and Amanda really changed the idea of age in women’s gymnastics. They were on that team in ‘96 and then Amy Chow and Dominique were on that team in 2000. Moceanu was the only 14 year old on Olympic team. Here they make it sound like the young ones are the only Olympic hope
IMO, Shannon's best iteration of her UB routine was 93. The difficulty was there, the composition was right. it just felt like a fully squared-off elite competitive routine. Plus, i am a sucker for a free-hip hecht 1/2.
Agree. It's the hangover of the Nadia era. Even the format of this competition was asphyxiating with the coaches forced to wear a live microphone to be part of the drama.
At 37:27....that judge looks just like the same judge that had that wonderful "O" expression when McKayla Maroney did her vault at the 2012 Team Olympics. I wonder if it's the same person?!
Ive been watching years 93/94-00 over and over, and i love being able to see the progression they make through the years, the skill they have and the dedication. Its awesome to see, i just wish with everything going on with every bad coach and doctor that these girls didnt have to go through such terrible conditions. But I'm glad it's been shown to the world how terrible they were. Mr penny and Larry nasser are disgusting.
Veronica Young yes......it's the same person. Alexander Alexandrov coached in the U.S. for a while before taking over as Head Coach for Russia (if my old memory isn't mistaken). :-)
Nunno was just so obnoxious. All his talk was for the cameras, not Shannon. I still can’t believe how they talked about their weight. And 17 was “old”. Ick.
looking back at these comps years later with the benefit of hindsight its never bee more apparent that raising the minimum age for the Olympics from 14 to 16 was by far the best thing for athletes, especially gymnasts. i think it would be even better if they raised it to 18. Having to be older has meant their bodies are stronger; so many of these gymnasts look under weight and unwell (Shannon less so here, but at age 15 she looked terrible, quite unwell). Older has meant stronger bodies, and with the likes of simone biles - more exciting gymnastics. Its also terrible how hard these young girls are training - simone biles and shawn johnson both trained a lot less than most gymnasts; their coaches recognized more, is not better - just made higher risks of injury.
@Johnny Kim the athletes of today are still small. They look taller than what they really are, most if not all professional female gymnasts range between 4' 7" to 5' 4". And at those heights you can not weigh very much and still be able to do all this. All gymnast should be healthy. None of these gymnasts mentioned in this video had any type of eating disorders.
Amanda Borden looked really cute back then. In one competition back in 1993, tim dagget said a stupid thing about this poor gymnast which i disagree on: "amanda is a great gymnast, but she doesn't have enough difficulty and experience." Isn't that just stupid? These days, tim dagget reminds me of pennywise from it, trying to be happy and smiley. It gives me the shivers just thinking about it.
I'm confused. You didn't like him for being too critical, but you also don't like him for being too nice? Sounds like you just don't like him no matter what he says.
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The interviewer was trying to make Shannon say something petty but Shannon has real class and says that it shows she's also human and everyone makes mistakes at one point , and that Dominique deserved this title.
Anna Pavfan yep both her and Dominique sounded very classy. Great gymnast and people
And they are still friends to this day 👏🏼👏🏼. Check out Dawes’ speech when she was elected into the USA Gym HOF - Miller’s parents attended and she joked about how annoyed she was that Shannon always beat her 😂
@@JamesFrew1 Absolutely. This is how a classy rivalry is done. They pushed eachother to do better and always respected eachother AND were excellent teammates. I miss 90s gymnastics.
I feel like Amy Chow is one of the most underrated gymnasts ever. I loved her.
+Jordan Batdorf The Kyla Ross of her time, tall and elegant. I really liked her too.
For what it's worth, she deserved the Gold on Bars in Atlanta since Khorkina clearly hit the bar in Komova style. That aside, Amy had one of the most difficult vaults in the world with the double twisting vault on the old horse. Uber difficult! She was so talented.
@Janet Merone are you kidding? She didn't focus on it enough? She was on more than one Olympic team, won team and individual gold medals and it wasn't enough for you? Wow.
@@kelliknight126 I agree, I also didn't really understand that comment lol. She pretty much NEVER stopped training, even after the 96 Olympics. Most gymnasts take a year or so off after the Olympics, not Amy.
The problem is that she was not very consistent. And they were reasons why she didn't do beam in floor in Atlanta. Real reasons
I seriously love Dominique's Leo lol. It SCREAMS 1990's 😂 Takes me back to childhood, gotta love the 90`s!
It's very Kandinsky-esque
I much prefer Dominique's floor routine here to the one she used in 96. I can understand why she stopped doing the back to back tumbling runs since they weren't valued as much as they should have been, but her music and choreography here was much better than in her 96 routine.
LOL "Time is running out for Dominique Dawes @ 17". Little did the announcers know...she would not only stick around for the 1996 Olympics...but she would even be a Veteran at the 2000 Games and be a Leader for the "inconsistent" US team in 2000!!!!
He was right, it turned out it was her last shot to win the U.S AA title, as she would win it this year, and never come close again. Remember that is what he was speaking of, not her entire career.
The point he was making was she was aging out of the sport...he were not sure she would last until 96 let alone 2000. Although she did not win another all around after 94 she was a contender... even sweeping all 4 event finals again in 1996.
@@sandylenzo5525 She bombed compulsories in 96, but she def 'won' optionals.
@@ArtByDesign80 Dawes was mediocre in 2000. The ONLY reason she made the team was the U.S were abysmal that year, and even then she was a barely and controversial choice to many. She did the AA in prelims in Sydney and was 30th something I think, even worse than she was in Barcelona.
That was the worst Olympic team EVER! They should’ve taken Shannon and Vanessa Atler!
I love Amy going over her bar routine afterwards with her coach. And 9.550? I know it had errors, but I can't believe the judges couldn't give her some credit !
Seems like so much of the judging had to do with reputation. I’m really glad she got a few changes to show this routine to international judges and win big later on.
i think for everyone who watched Dawes lose not one, but TWO world championship AA titles with nervous mistakes on the last event, this was a victory for the ages!
Agreed!
Just goes to show how wrong these predictions were, like the one touting all the upcoming juniors as being the nucleus of the 1996 Olympic team. Mocenu was the only junior from 1994 who made the 96 team-the rest were already seniors.
+taminator664 I'm so glad that USA looks to older teens to anchor the team now. They are at their best and can deliver more than just the skills. Nothing better than seeing a floor routine done with personality, which takes time to develop. It was a silly prediction and the Mag 7 changed that perception forever.
This comment was funny😂. The only young successful team in an Olympics was London 2012.
Dominiques first tumbling was and still is awe-inspiring!!!!
They need to bring that kind of tumbling back by rewarding complex combinations. But to be honest, as crowd pleasing as it was, that style of tumbling never did impress the judges much. With the exception of a minor me in 1992, Dawes was always underscored on floor exercise. So much so that she actually completely abandoned her signature pass before the 1996 Olympics, in favor of a double layout mount (which had a higher value). Shame!
tough beam routine for Shannon, but I always love the height she gets on her leaps. PS this Nationals has my most favorite fluffs ever.
Funny how "17 was old here"...and yet...DD and AC would make the Olympics in 1996 AND 2000.
So glad 6/7 members of the 96 team totally destroyed the “only young girl” narrative that the media kept trying to push. It was exhausting hearing the commentators call these young women “too old.”
I love how back then everyone was so stuck on small heights, tiny body types & young ages. Look at gymnasts now! They are more mature, some in their 20's & Oksana Chusovitina being in her late 30's. Everyone, whether a new senior or a world stage veteran can be just as talented and up for the same shot at the Olympics. I'm glad the sport has evolved from eating disorders and boxed ideas of perfect gymnasts, to just a sport of amazing women who are athletic & graceful. It's how it should be :)
Graceful??? Hmmm. I don't think so. Look at the beam world championship 2017. A MESS. No mastery of skills, no expression/dance , overtimed routines , etc.... I think true grace was from the 50's to late 90's.
@@annapavfan4680 yes!!!! Form is awful nowadays...and no grace I miss the pointed toes and Dance!!! I can barely watch it nowadays
These judges were so biased and smoking crack! How the hell did Miller score a 9.400 on the beam when she basically fell on the dismount? In addition to the mistake on the mount, that should have been an 8.900. And seriously, a 9.9 on the floor exercise - wtf? She only had ONE difficult tumbling pass in the beginning, and she visibly messed up the landing. Dawes routine was way more difficult, with no noticeable mistakes, yet scored basically the same. And how did Miller's second vault score higher than the first one when the first was better? So biased!
+captainbryce1 She was getting the treatment of a two time reigning World AA Champion and five time Olympic medallist (at the time)... It is unfortunate and still happens today. Successful gymnasts are almost always given the "benefit of the doubt" when it comes to scoring :/
Shannon was always overscored. She didnt even deserve her AA world titles in 94 (Kochetkova and Milo both should have beaten her) or 93 (she won with a big mistake, Gogean and Lysenko should have beaten her). Her entire post Barcelona career was basically the judges bending over to make up for her so called controversial AA loss in Barcelona.
Still getting pity marks for not winning in Barcelona as some thought she should have. A parallel is Elvis Stojko who controversially lost in Lillehammer and got overscored the rest of his career to make up for it.
Dustin Gabe No no no. Dina was still low on difficulty on other apparatus. And Milo was very shaky and tight on all her events other than floor. Get over yourself.
She deserved the win in 93'..
Jennie Thompson had the same coaches as Shannon Miller, but did they also have to outfit her in the exact scrunchie and screechy violin floor music?
It's creepy!!! And they did that to Kerri Strug too
Both horrible music 🎻
Steve Nuno treated Jennie as a Shannon version 2.0.
Everyone from the same club wears the same leos. During Jennies routine you can see more dynamo girls wearing it.
People always say this, but like, Maybe Kerri and Jennie wanted it too lol I mean was a scrunchie so strange for the mid 90’s?
"i just checked the obituaries and you're not dead yet" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Classic from Steve there. 😂 as iconic, amazing, awe inspiring, and world class as Shannon is, it’s kinda crazy she only had one national AA title. Just an insanely deep and talented US team during this quad.
Absolutely love Amy Chow
Awww, baby Dominique Moceanu!
Anyone know who the guy (presumably coach) is at 1:58? Sounds like he makes sense but wondering what time has told about how true he felt those words are as indicated in action.
It’s funny how wrong the commentators were. Other than Dominique M, the Magnificent 7 were all “old ladies”. I do like the foreshadowing when Dom M did her bars, the background floor music was titled “The Magnificent 7”. Also I’m biased, but I miss classical music on floor routines.
I also miss classical music
I don't know which was funnier, the voice over saying Shannon Miller had to be worried about younger girls coming up or smaller ones. Imagine being 17 years old and less than 5 feet tall and considered too old and too tall for your sport.
HOW did Miller get a 9.9 on her floor?
Form on her dance elements and presentation. The COP was WAY different back then. It really was more about artistic movements than big tumbling runs.
9.9 on floor AND 9.95 for second vault. those ladies(judges) wanted miller to win.
Name value alone.
Awesome for these girls is an understatement
Awesome Dawesome !!
Man this scoring shows how they had no difficulty factors in it. That score for Amy Chow’s bars was absolutely stupid!
I love Amy's hand positioning at the beginning of the floor routine that she did. I love how elegant she looks (Amy) not only on floor but on every event!!
That floor exercise from Dominique tho.... 🔥
Shannon's coach has always been annoying and creepy.
I agree!!
Yep! He sounds very encouraging, but he reminds me of a killer clown trying to sound happy!
Steve Nunno was trained by Bela Karolyi.
Céhad Dunebuggy I think he seems like a good guy
Very stupid comment. He’s one of the best coaches always cheering his gymnasts on cheering loud even if they didnt do perfect.
All those bar routines were cookie cutter and boring, except for Chow. So underscored.
i also think, with the changes that have resulted on a greater focus on difficulty, (in recent years) a lot of the grace, dance elements have been lost. its most obvious when you look back on these routines in the 1990s; floor and especially beam. in beam now days, next to no handstands being held, in various poses - which used to show the gymnasts control and strength; on the floor, i think few things look more beautiful than a single layout with a step out (like at the end of a couple of shannon's tumbling runs) - its so elegant, and the height the gymnasts get, coupled with the apparent 'slowness' in comparison to the double somersaults - but not 'wroth' anything in terms of difficulty. maybe the solution is to add 10 seconds to routines, so they can still aim for more difficulty, but allow for grace still
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a transition is a type of release, it goes from one bar to another. A release can occur on one bar, like a tchatev or a geinger where they let go and regrasp the same bar. Im sure my spelling sucks, but I hope that makes sense, haha
Jennie Thompson was a peanut! Love her opening pass on floor! 3 whips? shades of Kim Zmeskal :)
Shannon, Dominique and Amanda really changed the idea of age in women’s gymnastics. They were on that team in ‘96 and then Amy Chow and Dominique were on that team in 2000. Moceanu was the only 14 year old on Olympic team. Here they make it sound like the young ones are the only Olympic hope
amy chow was underscored compared to thompson.
Absolutely. Thompson was never any good and always overrated. I cant believe she won an American Cup once.
and she beat Produnova and Karpenko, lol, two of the best ever.
sandy lenzo not true, Jennie was awesome but inconsistent. Lots of injuries
IMO, Shannon's best iteration of her UB routine was 93. The difficulty was there, the composition was right. it just felt like a fully squared-off elite competitive routine. Plus, i am a sucker for a free-hip hecht 1/2.
We need more barworkers like Amy Chow or Dominique Dawes
Amy Chow is amazing even for the codes that follow!
Was that a Rebel flag at 4:50?
26:43 Hmmm...Interesting that it is Alexandrov coaching Moceanu and not Bela.
Agree. It's the hangover of the Nadia era.
Even the format of this competition was asphyxiating with the coaches forced to wear a live microphone to be part of the drama.
I cant believe this
At 37:27....that judge looks just like the same judge that had that wonderful "O" expression when McKayla Maroney did her vault at the 2012 Team Olympics. I wonder if it's the same person?!
It’s the same woman, she Literally everywhere 😂
Much more interesting and better gymnastics than today
That bar score for Amy chow was way too low. They really did her wrong
DD’s leo is a Cosby sweater. And when grown women wore Jojo bows.
Really the only Juniors from this comp that would make 96 was Dominique Moceanu.
Ive been watching years 93/94-00 over and over, and i love being able to see the progression they make through the years, the skill they have and the dedication. Its awesome to see, i just wish with everything going on with every bad coach and doctor that these girls didnt have to go through such terrible conditions. But I'm glad it's been shown to the world how terrible they were. Mr penny and Larry nasser are disgusting.
Shannon Miller 4:00, 16:35, 34:50, 42:55
Amy Chow 5:50, 29:25
Jennie Thompson 10:40, 31:10
Amanda Borden 13:05, 21:05, 38:05
Doni Thompson 25:20
Dominique Moceanu 26:20 with Nadia 29:03
Is it just me or is Mustafina's coach coaching Dominique Moceanu?
Veronica Young yes......it's the same person. Alexander Alexandrov coached in the U.S. for a while before taking over as Head Coach for Russia (if my old memory isn't mistaken). :-)
It is horrible how ageist, sexist, and weight oriented the commentary used to be. It still is to some degree, but not as severely
I love that the sport has moved past a certain body type and age
Yikes, the 90’s. WTH is Dawes wearing?
I love it lol. It is so unbelievably 1994! It reminds of being little.
Takes me right back to my childhood lol.
Cool
The beginning is so dramatic. I don't know if it makes me scared or makes me laugh.
I know! What do u expect from me? I am aussie, and i cant stand dramatic stuff!!
Stormy Eaton: *wise and healthy attitude about the sport*
NBC: “don’t tell that to Jennie Thompson!”
Stormy dun dead
Dom won this meet no doubt but WOW was Amy chow ROBBED! Sickening !
Nunno was just so obnoxious. All his talk was for the cameras, not Shannon.
I still can’t believe how they talked about their weight. And 17 was “old”. Ick.
Amanda Borden is so good in the 90s, and man oh man she be rockin that haircut better than all of em thumbs down if you don't agree
looking back at these comps years later with the benefit of hindsight its never bee more apparent that raising the minimum age for the Olympics from 14 to 16 was by far the best thing for athletes, especially gymnasts. i think it would be even better if they raised it to 18. Having to be older has meant their bodies are stronger; so many of these gymnasts look under weight and unwell (Shannon less so here, but at age 15 she looked terrible, quite unwell). Older has meant stronger bodies, and with the likes of simone biles - more exciting gymnastics. Its also terrible how hard these young girls are training - simone biles and shawn johnson both trained a lot less than most gymnasts; their coaches recognized more, is not better - just made higher risks of injury.
Why did Nunno always make the girl's from his gym wear those stupid hair ruffles?
They were scrunchies and very in at the time!!
Horrible hair style
Kristin Anzelc no, those were bows. You can see the clip. Scrunchies go ALL the way around the bun or ponytail.
This intro is so creepy...knowing that predatory Larry Nassar was in the fray.
Steve Nuno shows how gymnasts were often treated but Kelly Hill is wonderful
Steve i best for Shannon Miller
89pounds she’s 4’11 she should weight more
Shannon Miller is sooooooo Gracious
Tom Forester was just an ok coach all his athletes either left his gym or quit altogether. He was and even worst national team coach lol
@Johnny Kim the athletes of today are still small. They look taller than what they really are, most if not all professional female gymnasts range between 4' 7" to 5' 4". And at those heights you can not weigh very much and still be able to do all this. All gymnast should be healthy. None of these gymnasts mentioned in this video had any type of eating disorders.
LRSRSCLSCTS wrong. Bella and Marta were notorious for starving their girls. Read Little Girls in Pretty Boxes. Even Steve Nuno was a tyrant.
Shannon Miller get beat by Dawes in the 1994 Olympic champions woman all around all broad cast
Oh my gosh. Tim Dagget is so obnoxious and critical of Jennie Thompson.
I never realized until I watched these old shows what a negative Nancy Tim D is
That confederate flag in the back!🤮 it’s amazing when you learn what something stands for and notice it’s all around you!
Amanda Borden looked really cute back then. In one competition back in 1993, tim dagget said a stupid thing about this poor gymnast which i disagree on: "amanda is a great gymnast, but she doesn't have enough difficulty and experience." Isn't that just stupid? These days, tim dagget reminds me of pennywise from it, trying to be happy and smiley. It gives me the shivers just thinking about it.
I'm confused. You didn't like him for being too critical, but you also don't like him for being too nice? Sounds like you just don't like him no matter what he says.
The confederate flag in the background I keep seeing. 🙄😒
That confederate flag hanging in the hall is so disturbing. And no one gave it a thought at that time?