Tim really got on my nerves there. Dom might have made some ever so rare and tiny mistakes but her difficulty was def over Shannon’s. So, even if they got the same deductions as Tim thought, then Dom should still have some advantage over Shannon. Glad the judges thought the same :)
I really appreciate this 90's stuff getting posted (and how funny that it was so long ago/ feels so dated...). Yet, I was a bit annoyed by Tim Daggett's open disapproval of Dawes' balance beam & floor wins. I hope she gave him sh*t for that, possibly years later. On BB for example, Shannon didn't just take a tiny step on her landing; her chest was way down and it was a big step. I like Shannon a lot but I thought the judges were right on when it came to the scores of these 2 legendary gymnasts.
Tim was an still does that picks favorites if they aren't wining he just hates on them . i been involved in the sport since the late 80's and they tried hard to hold dawes back . but she did shine in the championship i was there she was on fire
Tim Daggetts biasness towards Dominique Dawes was so blatant and disrespectful. He called her out on every tiny mistake on beam. Shannon Miller comes up and does beam routine with a big a hop at the end and he praised her. Smh
@@Hervinbalfour I honestly wanted to slap tf out of Tim when he said, "idk she had that big step, I'm sorry but I just don't agree with it" like why can't he just congratulate her? One step should not be enough to take the win away from her anyway, especially after how insane her first pass is. I love Shannon too and her floor was absolutely STUNNING but floor was the only event she did absolutely perfectly. I can't believe that even back then, Tim has been biased towards his favorite gymnasts smh
Watching Dominique on the beam makes me realize how much pressure and wear she puts on those ankles. It sounds so painful and hits with such force. I know these gymnasts have trouble in their later years.
Agreed, I remember seeing other competitions with her in it and she had higher difficulty than most of the gymnasts but wasn't getting scored NEARLY as high for it. A back hand spring into three layouts on beam is insane and it's a shame no one does routines like that anymore. Summers beam was also great and underrated imo
So glad they don't do the height/weight thing anymore. So unnecessary and seems like it would put extra pressure on the girls to know your weight is going to be told nationally. Well the height would still be nice to know sometimes.
Their weights let me know just how fat I was getting as a teen athlete, myself. That way I could starve myself to not be over 90. Still, I wonder how chunky I would have gotten had I not known what certain weights looked like.
I totally agree. I didn't think about the weight so much when I was watching this as a child, but now as an adult I can't imagine all the pressure that puts on the athletes, especially since these are still teenagers. I would still enjoy still seeing the height though.
@@2ndchancehypnotherapy the gymnast was Christy Henrich - they mention her in the closing fluff. She passed away in July 1994, just about a month before this competition. The judge told her she wouldn’t make the Olympic team unless she lost weight.
Those comments on Summer Reid as she does an amazing beam routine - wow! "Bigger than most gymnasts, a virtual giant" I get that they are saying she's taller than average but I mean, seriously?
Everyone from the coaches to the USAG officials to the commentators was in on the abuse of these children. Cheering about 13yo Moceanu being forced to work out for 9+hrs/day on a broken leg, and their open disgust for any female gymnast who weighed more than 90lbs and/or was taller than 4'10" -- they all cheered eating disorders and the gross abuse of child athletes. And then they had the GALL to play innocent when sexual abuse facts came out -- like yeah you all cheered when these girls were being abused and now you claim you "didn't think" a doctor would do a different kind of abuse? Really??
I remembered that one moment. I knew it had been said. Cause you know, I was 13 and I was built like her, a little bigger. And they made such a damn big deal about it.
@@djm4854 I never understand why people are so outraged when they use to list the athlete's height and weight. I think it helps to appreciate what the athlete is doing and how well they do it, or not.
Wonder if this was the beginning of us gymnastic fans, disdain for Tim. I remember watching these Nationals and cheering on Awesome Dawesome. she trained about 45 minutes from where I grew up and everyone in our community loved, supported, and cheered for her. Tim ' s comments during beam made me think about how much everyone complains about him on social media today. shannon ' s step on her beam dismount was HUGE. I don't know of any other gymnast since her to sweep nationals. how bout the following year? not medalist in AA, but sweeping event finals? she truly is AWESOME DAWESOME!
Tim was hating sooo.. hard on Dom having a sweep night..Shannon was fine..she had just come off of 2 AA titles..but her beam step clearly said Dawes was the winner..n her fx tumbling said the same..Id have went and cut sum1 if Dom hadnt won floor
Shannon is one of my favorite gymnasts because of her sheer determination, mental toughness, and perfectionism. However, power was her weakness. If you pay close attention, you will notice that she could barely get that full-in around. People need to be be more realistic when comparing Dom and Shannon. Under today’s scoring system, which I love btw, Dom would have eaten up the competition, and Tim would have been bowing to Dom like they all bow to Simone as the queen.
It's weird how many glaringly obvious mistakes the judges and commentators overlooked back in those days. That beam dismount from Shannon Miller with the step forward and the chest so far down would kill her score now, and she missed nearly every handstand in her bars routine. I do think the judges are too hard on the gymnasts technically now, but back then they were far too lenient.
In the 1990s, there was a mandatory 0.5 deduction for having tits and/or weighing more than 80lbs. Thankfully we don't have that deduction anymore. The 1990s were all about fetishizing pre-pubescent girls and trying to keep grown women as chidllike as possible. Thank god gymnasts can be grown women now!
I'm thinking the code then must not have emphasized handstands on the top of the bar as much because almost no one did them and no one ever comments on how they should have.
I always watch these old ones and think, I wonder what these girls would say if I could go back in time and tell a girl like Amanda Bordon that in two years she would be gymnastics royalty. I wonder if she would believe me?
At the time I didn’t like the fact they changed the scoring system but now it’s so much better . Almost nothing to separate them back then I feel like the scores were more arbitrary eg 9.95 - yeah really good but we can’t give a 10. Keri strug fall - can’t watch it !! Horrible
The way Tim Daggett said "And one more time, Dominique Dawes can...do no wrong." Bias for Shannon Miller definitely showing. No wonder Dominique didn't listen to the commentators when she watched the recordings.
Imho I think Amanda should've scored higher than Shannon on bars. Shannon's releases were kinda close to the bar, she was short on a few handstands, and her dismount should've gotten a big deduction--she took a few steps and significantly piked it. Yeah, Amanda cowboyed her double front a little and took a little hop when she landed, but it wasn't as significant as Shannon. Plus, Amanda's releases were higher and cleaner to me. They're both good bar workers, but I think Amanda should've beaten Shannon.
And I think Jenni was underscored, other than the slight form break on the geinger, her dismount was cleaner than Shannon's and she stuck it, but scored almost a tenth lower. I would've put her on the podium
Yes. I always wondered why they made such a big deal out of Shannon's age when Borden and Strug were the same age and Dawes was a year older than all three of them.
It's because Shannon won the silver AA medal in Barcelona and then was the world champ in 93 and 94. If Dawes hadn't kept falling and losing the titles, she would have been a bigger deal.
I think Jenni was a bit underscored, I would've given a similar score to Shannon Miller's. Both Shannon and Amanda had errors in their landings, but both were given relatively generous scores ... I'm glad they don't show the weight anymore. The height is fine, but now we know not all bodies are made equal, you can't have someone as tall as Summer Reid and expect them to be the same weight as someone like Jennie Thompson or Amanda Borden
Shannon always was a beautiful dancer. You don’t see that kind of artistry any more. Why didn’t they show Moceanu? She competed at this event too and she’s the same age as Jennie Thompson. I have the VHS and I saw her bars and beam. Why aren’t they in this upload?
Its 2021 just about to hit 2022, and I still enjoy watching the girls, their gymnastics was so much more exciting to watch, but please please can i get 🙏 a show of hands on tim Daggett. For gods sake retirement 🙄 please retire him if not for him do it for us, ,,,,, ,,
I love where the beginning broadcasters were trying to go ! Oh the old gymnasts are trying to compete with the youngsters LMAO!!! Bullshit!!! Those old ladies were 17!! With that being said.. they had Olympic experience
Dawes really was the best and I loved Shannon but I knew Dawes was better in difficulty and barely any adjustments. You can tell the commentary were all about Shannon. And Borden got better and better, and Kerry Strug, I always felt sorry for her because she was really good but was so nervous and worried and would have mistakes because of it. But she was really good when she ignored the competition
Honestly j think it was just something that Shannon Miller wore and then all the little girls that followed ending up wearing a matching hairstyle because Shannon did her hair differently to most of the gymnasts
"I'm sorry but she had that deduction so i don't agree I'm sorry but i just don't agree" that commenter should do us all that agree a huge favor & do his job the way it's suppose to be done.. We all as individuals have a right to selecting a favorite, but in a professional standpoint none of that applies the only thing that does is performance achieving perfection or as close to that as one can reach. Shannon gave an outstanding floor exercise but she messed up. I saw 2 slip-ups respond if u so what i thought i saw, but regardless the only one's that matter are the powers that be and they only saw 1. Dominic had 1 slip-up but the rest of her routine was flawless not to mention her routine which was 10× more difficult than Miller. And just love how the commenter speaks yet again on Dominic slip-up only this time he says it as if Shannon hadn't one. I suppose he felt we needed not any reminding of hers. This is the only thing that disgusts me where Olympic gymnasts are concerned these girl's start extremely young they must eat sleep piss walk gymnastics. They never have the option of being regular children, they bleed hurt sprain break there bodies everyday hrs on end year after year and it all comes down to a lil over a minute performance that even if u give a flawless performance u still have to stress the fuck out as if u haven't enough of that already wondering worried terrified to glance over to the judges table and ask yourself which one is the bigot this go round.? Which one despises my country? When a person dedicates there life for there dream they shouldn't have to concern themselves with giving such a powerful performance but receives an unfair score because a judge is harboring the anger they feel about the Romanian government that has nothing to do with this girl's achievement!!! The shit should be illegal!!! It not being about what it should "THE TALENT" 4and all about what it shouldn't corruption/racism/politics, all that imperative shit ya know👎😫😰💦💧WTFU!!$!
How did Dawes have a high start score without any major releases? Despite the stuck landing, 9.9 seemed high. Her handstands were short on her pirouetting (spelling?) like Shannon's.
calculusfan1 Her shaposh mount was highly rewarded, as was her 1.5, which she introduced. Also, her dismount gave her a lot. That being said, I'm glad she later added the Hindorff release, as it made her routine much more exciting. She did it just a few months later at Worlds, so it may just not have been ready for this competition.
I gotta agree that Dawes shouldn't have won floor. Dawes may have had more exciting tumbling, but the choreography was horrendous and had no flow. Miller had solid tumbling and amazing choreography. Her routine also didn't contain that obvious balance error that Dawes had.
Stop! There is NO WAY you thought those routines were on par. BTW, this is the last quad that allowed for a bunch of easy front tumbling to even start from a 10.
Ridiculous! Shannon’s tumbling was soooo much weaker than what Dawes did, it’s not even comparable. The fact that she even scored as close to Dawes as she did just proves how biased the scoring was in her favor. Gymnastics is about power, amplitude, and difficulty first. And Dawes choreography and music was just fine, just a different more dynamic style.
Miller was using a 3 year old routine. Super boring, and weak code whored tumbling. She also had a big mistake on her first pass which was as bad as Dawes's 2nd pass.
Summer Reid got screwed on her balance beam score! That routine was insanely difficult and she barely made any adjustments. The politics in women's gymnastics is really unfortunate.
It’s hard to believe that they would televise these girls weights. Because your are involved in a national Gymnastics championship you have to give up the right to keep your weight private? Unbelievable!
Tim is insufferable. This fucking shit about Amanda having a bad UB landing?...and excuse me, Dawes's routine had errors? I'm not even the biggest Dawes' gymnastics fan and I can't see any errors except the .1 on the landing. Oh help me Jesus.
I think they just mean like it's not that bad if you compare it to how serious it looks, a broken back could have ended her career and knock injuries are obviously very dangerous for paralysis so when you put it in perspective, it being sprained doesn't seem so bad especially as she had made a comeback
Strug got her masters from Stanford and ended up moving to DC to work for the GOP. Real job, even if I don’t share her political beliefs. Dawes, Borden, Phelps and Moceanu all have their own gyms. I think Shannon is the only one who lives purely on endorsements and speaking engagements. I wish I didn’t have to work.
Lisa Starseed Expat Amen! I NoticedIt IMMEDIATELY when FLOOR began!!!! I was reading through the comments section first, before I posted something about it, because I wanted to see if someone else had noticed that HATEFUL FLAG!!!!! So, I was quite happy to see that someone else had noticed that flag as well, or like me was so angered and upset at seeing that flag at a NATIONAL TELEVISED SPORTING EVENT; that they felt COMPELLED enough and ANGRY enough to actually “SPEAK UP”, (For Lack Of A Better Term), And say something about it!!!!!!!!!!! I know the times were different, believe me I know because I myself was 14 back in 1994, HOWEVER, It Still Does Not Mean We Should Just; Overlook, Ignore, OR IN MY OPINION THE VERY WORST THING WE COULD DO IS: Act As If It Does Not Matter That Much!!!!!!!!!!! That EVIL INSTRUMENT OF: HATRED, OPPRESSION, BIGOTRY AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, DISCRIMINATION, SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP IN ANY CONVERSATION; Even On A Video And Comment Section About The Sport We All LOVE, Artistic Women’s Gymnastics!!!!!!!!!
Shannon was overscored on both beam and floor. Boring 3 year old floor routine with pathetically weak tumbling other than an ok 1st pass (which still had a bad landing). Nearly fell on her beam dismount.
Just check the scoring system back then. Shannon had a start value that never went over ten, so every little mistake she made instantly showed in her final scores. Also I think not just in this competition but even 2 years later she was highly overscored for routines with missed handstands on bars and lack of height and distance in releases and on vault. I always wondered how she managed to be so highly praised back then even though her dancing was on point and delicate.
The only apparatus I think Shannon should have won was bars being as Dawes didn’t have a release move… but even then as much as I like Shannon, she was very overscored in a lot of these meets
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i miss the crushed velvet leos, so pretty
I hate how only the big celeb girls get all the attention. I mean can we talk about Summer Reeds beam please??? Hello so not boring and so amazing.
I miss the whip backs in tumbling passes.
Gurl me too. Why don’t they do them now?
Dawes in the classic crushed velvet leo!
Don't forget the giant scrunchies that can be seen from space. Classic 90s gymnastics. LOL
One thing though that I like about Shannon Miller, is that her form was better than some of the other gymnasts.
Dawes owned this!!!
I totally forgot about Summer Reid. What a great trickster, especially on beam. Lacked a little amplitude in jumps, but so exciting to watch.
Shannon Millers floor routine still looks great. Choreography and her style is beautiful. No gaps every beat filled
I completely agree. I like this routine so much more than her 96 routine.
It reminds me of a compulsory routine, so fluid and perfect.
Tim looks so young...I can not unsee this...
Tim really got on my nerves there. Dom might have made some ever so rare and tiny mistakes but her difficulty was def over Shannon’s. So, even if they got the same deductions as Tim thought, then Dom should still have some advantage over Shannon. Glad the judges thought the same :)
Tim knows how the scoring goes. He was just being a blatant hater.
I really appreciate this 90's stuff getting posted (and how funny that it was so long ago/ feels so dated...). Yet, I was a bit annoyed by Tim Daggett's open disapproval of Dawes' balance beam & floor wins. I hope she gave him sh*t for that, possibly years later. On BB for example, Shannon didn't just take a tiny step on her landing; her chest was way down and it was a big step. I like Shannon a lot but I thought the judges were right on when it came to the scores of these 2 legendary gymnasts.
Tim was an still does that picks favorites if they aren't wining he just hates on them . i been involved in the sport since the late 80's and they tried hard to hold dawes back . but she did shine in the championship i was there she was on fire
Tim Daggetts biasness towards Dominique Dawes was so blatant and disrespectful. He called her out on every tiny mistake on beam. Shannon Miller comes up and does beam routine with a big a hop at the end and he praised her. Smh
@@Hervinbalfour I honestly wanted to slap tf out of Tim when he said, "idk she had that big step, I'm sorry but I just don't agree with it" like why can't he just congratulate her? One step should not be enough to take the win away from her anyway, especially after how insane her first pass is. I love Shannon too and her floor was absolutely STUNNING but floor was the only event she did absolutely perfectly. I can't believe that even back then, Tim has been biased towards his favorite gymnasts smh
Watching Dominique on the beam makes me realize how much pressure and wear she puts on those ankles. It sounds so painful and hits with such force. I know these gymnasts have trouble in their later years.
I’m so happy difficultly is rewarded and weighted now! Dominique would have been more dominant with the current system.
Agreed, I remember seeing other competitions with her in it and she had higher difficulty than most of the gymnasts but wasn't getting scored NEARLY as high for it. A back hand spring into three layouts on beam is insane and it's a shame no one does routines like that anymore. Summers beam was also great and underrated imo
No, I can't say I was wondering how much these athletes weigh...
Dominique Dawes' triple layout was gorgeous and I was like "OMG"
+Kae Kae Jones look up what a triple layout is.lol
*****
May be what she meant but it is not what she said.
I know what you mean but maybe add on beam
I was like where 😲!?!? But I know what you meant😂.
So glad they don't do the height/weight thing anymore. So unnecessary and seems like it would put extra pressure on the girls to know your weight is going to be told nationally.
Well the height would still be nice to know sometimes.
CJ Yes sometimes it would be nice to know the height. Like with the uneven bars. but the weight! that was so harsh poor little things!
Yes, they eventually got rid of it I believe after a judge called a gymnast she from fat and she developed an eating disorder and eventually died.
Their weights let me know just how fat I was getting as a teen athlete, myself. That way I could starve myself to not be over 90. Still, I wonder how chunky I would have gotten had I not known what certain weights looked like.
I totally agree. I didn't think about the weight so much when I was watching this as a child, but now as an adult I can't imagine all the pressure that puts on the athletes, especially since these are still teenagers. I would still enjoy still seeing the height though.
@@2ndchancehypnotherapy the gymnast was Christy Henrich - they mention her in the closing fluff. She passed away in July 1994, just about a month before this competition. The judge told her she wouldn’t make the Olympic team unless she lost weight.
Those comments on Summer Reid as she does an amazing beam routine - wow! "Bigger than most gymnasts, a virtual giant" I get that they are saying she's taller than average but I mean, seriously?
They also clarified her weight of 106 pounds. That's what is most despicable to me.
Everyone from the coaches to the USAG officials to the commentators was in on the abuse of these children. Cheering about 13yo Moceanu being forced to work out for 9+hrs/day on a broken leg, and their open disgust for any female gymnast who weighed more than 90lbs and/or was taller than 4'10" -- they all cheered eating disorders and the gross abuse of child athletes. And then they had the GALL to play innocent when sexual abuse facts came out -- like yeah you all cheered when these girls were being abused and now you claim you "didn't think" a doctor would do a different kind of abuse? Really??
She coaches now at a gym in my hometown and I would call her the furthest thing from a giant! Totally with you here.
I remembered that one moment. I knew it had been said. Cause you know, I was 13 and I was built like her, a little bigger. And they made such a damn big deal about it.
@@djm4854 I never understand why people are so outraged when they use to list the athlete's height and weight. I think it helps to appreciate what the athlete is doing and how well they do it, or not.
Incredible talent!
This is so outstanding extraordinary spectacular breathtaking inspiring to watch
"Shannon's going to try to salvage some respectability after finishing second..." B**** this is the reigning All-Around Champion! Sit the eff down!
Wonder if this was the beginning of us gymnastic fans, disdain for Tim. I remember watching these Nationals and cheering on Awesome Dawesome. she trained about 45 minutes from where I grew up and everyone in our community loved, supported, and cheered for her. Tim ' s comments during beam made me think about how much everyone complains about him on social media today. shannon ' s step on her beam dismount was HUGE. I don't know of any other gymnast since her to sweep nationals. how bout the following year? not medalist in AA, but sweeping event finals? she truly is AWESOME DAWESOME!
Catherine H. shannon's great, but Dawes was better here. You can tell Tim was sooo biased towards Miller at this championship tho.
Catherine H. And you have even won a regional meet competition??? Girl bye.
Tim was hating sooo.. hard on Dom having a sweep night..Shannon was fine..she had just come off of 2 AA titles..but her beam step clearly said Dawes was the winner..n her fx tumbling said the same..Id have went and cut sum1 if Dom hadnt won floor
Shannon is one of my favorite gymnasts because of her sheer determination, mental toughness, and perfectionism. However, power was her weakness. If you pay close attention, you will notice that she could barely get that full-in around. People need to be be more realistic when comparing Dom and Shannon. Under today’s scoring system, which I love btw, Dom would have eaten up the competition, and Tim would have been bowing to Dom like they all bow to Simone as the queen.
It's weird how many glaringly obvious mistakes the judges and commentators overlooked back in those days. That beam dismount from Shannon Miller with the step forward and the chest so far down would kill her score now, and she missed nearly every handstand in her bars routine. I do think the judges are too hard on the gymnasts technically now, but back then they were far too lenient.
In the 1990s, there was a mandatory 0.5 deduction for having tits and/or weighing more than 80lbs. Thankfully we don't have that deduction anymore. The 1990s were all about fetishizing pre-pubescent girls and trying to keep grown women as chidllike as possible. Thank god gymnasts can be grown women now!
I'm thinking the code then must not have emphasized handstands on the top of the bar as much because almost no one did them and no one ever comments on how they should have.
9.825 for Shannon's beam was way too high. She should've been off the podium. She's a great gymnast, but she didn't hit that day
RIP henrich. Rest in peace
That rewound Jager they start the opening fluff with confused me so much at first...
Me too
I thought it was some strange Counter Kim at first lol
I always watch these old ones and think, I wonder what these girls would say if I could go back in time and tell a girl like Amanda Bordon that in two years she would be gymnastics royalty. I wonder if she would believe me?
Tim can be obnoxious at times. I prefer John Tesh as commentator.😃
I remember watching this as a child.
At the time I didn’t like the fact they changed the scoring system but now it’s so much better . Almost nothing to separate them back then I feel like the scores were more arbitrary eg 9.95 - yeah really good but we can’t give a 10.
Keri strug fall - can’t watch it !! Horrible
Can we just talk about those 90's era crushed velvet leos?
The way Tim Daggett said "And one more time, Dominique Dawes can...do no wrong." Bias for Shannon Miller definitely showing. No wonder Dominique didn't listen to the commentators when she watched the recordings.
1000%
Love love dawes and miller ❤
My favorite 2 forever.
Imho I think Amanda should've scored higher than Shannon on bars. Shannon's releases were kinda close to the bar, she was short on a few handstands, and her dismount should've gotten a big deduction--she took a few steps and significantly piked it. Yeah, Amanda cowboyed her double front a little and took a little hop when she landed, but it wasn't as significant as Shannon. Plus, Amanda's releases were higher and cleaner to me. They're both good bar workers, but I think Amanda should've beaten Shannon.
And I think Jenni was underscored, other than the slight form break on the geinger, her dismount was cleaner than Shannon's and she stuck it, but scored almost a tenth lower. I would've put her on the podium
ugh, good they changed the vault table, the old one was horrible. Least favorite event to do.
Yeah, the changed it to the table which is much safer. One gymnast was paralyzed when she slipped i believe and went head first into the horse:(
Jennie Thompson was awesome
What happened to her? Never saw her at olympics or any major competitions
switch leap wolf jump was such a standard at this time
Our fashion sense in the 90s was terrible
MaKenzie Who cares. At least they had the talent to back it up.
Lol you're right
Shannon's leo was gorgeous though!
We say this all the time at fashion from 10 years ago, 20 years from now people will think the athletes today wore ghastly leotards
What about...Dawes? Borden? They are the same age as Shannon. To me, the commentators were SOOOOOO biased towards Shannon!!!! Anyone else notice it?
Yes. I always wondered why they made such a big deal out of Shannon's age when Borden and Strug were the same age and Dawes was a year older than all three of them.
OMG! I love Shannon but her routine was packed with difficulty
It's because Shannon won the silver AA medal in Barcelona and then was the world champ in 93 and 94. If Dawes hadn't kept falling and losing the titles, she would have been a bigger deal.
Tim was very pro shannon. But dawes killed it this year I was there and she earned every gold .
I think Jenni was a bit underscored, I would've given a similar score to Shannon Miller's. Both Shannon and Amanda had errors in their landings, but both were given relatively generous scores
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I'm glad they don't show the weight anymore. The height is fine, but now we know not all bodies are made equal, you can't have someone as tall as Summer Reid and expect them to be the same weight as someone like Jennie Thompson or Amanda Borden
...have the mic’d up the equipment- the beam and bars are so loud!!
Laura Gatehouse Yes! We did not need to hear every single squeak and creak from the equipment. What was the purpose of mic’s on the equipment ?? 🤦♀️
Shannon always was a beautiful dancer. You don’t see that kind of artistry any more. Why didn’t they show Moceanu? She competed at this event too and she’s the same age as Jennie Thompson. I have the VHS and I saw her bars and beam. Why aren’t they in this upload?
She was a junior
@@TheTimo5494 Jennie decided to compete in the senior category whereas Dominique stayed in the juniors until 1995
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I totally forgot Summer Reid was from Sparks! It's so unusual to hear my hometown mentioned in gymnastics circles, haha.
Bad to when Nationals wasnt on a podium
amazing.......
Why didn’t Summer Walker go further? And wasn’t that one leg thing she did on beam what Nastia later ‘originated’ ? I’m sure it was a bit different
No, Nastia's move was a front aerial (-ish) landing on one leg; Summer's move was a back flip landed on one leg.
Its 2021 just about to hit 2022, and I still enjoy watching the girls, their gymnastics was so much more exciting to watch, but please please can i get 🙏 a show of hands on tim Daggett. For gods sake retirement 🙄 please retire him if not for him do it for us, ,,,,, ,,
I love where the beginning broadcasters were trying to go ! Oh the old gymnasts are trying to compete with the youngsters LMAO!!! Bullshit!!! Those old ladies were 17!! With that being said.. they had Olympic experience
It's AWFUL. JFC I"m so glad they've gotten a little bit better. The coverage here is *so* paternalistic.
oh phew, keri strug writhoing in pain strulgling to breath on the floor and clealry i terrifed, it was "only" a sprained back. 😶
Just babies back then, but true champions
Dawes deserved every one of these gold medals! Incredible.
Tim was hating on Dominique. She squashed him with her incredible talent and win!
13 years old!
wtf the games was absolutely made for dominic to win like ....
The bar looks like a rubber band
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Dominique “Awesome Dawesome” laid the foundation for the black female gymnast today n they have made her legacy proud.
The "little girls" refrain...so so gross and disrespectful. I remember it seemed a little weird even then, and it has not aged well...
Dawes really was the best and I loved Shannon but I knew Dawes was better in difficulty and barely any adjustments. You can tell the commentary were all about Shannon. And Borden got better and better, and Kerry Strug, I always felt sorry for her because she was really good but was so nervous and worried and would have mistakes because of it. But she was really good when she ignored the competition
7:47 4 of the 7 on the 1996 team
Tom Hammond and his gloom and doom commentary regarding Shannon.. geez! So annoying
Also do you think it was a requirement to wear those awful bows in order to train with Peggy Liddick & Steve Nunno orrr...?
Jordan Batdorf I don’t know but they were awful.
Honestly j think it was just something that Shannon Miller wore and then all the little girls that followed ending up wearing a matching hairstyle because Shannon did her hair differently to most of the gymnasts
Her scrunchie is in the hall of fame.
"I'm sorry but she had that deduction so i don't agree I'm sorry but i just don't agree" that commenter should do us all that agree a huge favor & do his job the way it's suppose to be done.. We all as individuals have a right to selecting a favorite, but in a professional standpoint none of that applies the only thing that does is performance achieving perfection or as close to that as one can reach. Shannon gave an outstanding floor exercise but she messed up. I saw 2 slip-ups respond if u so what i thought i saw, but regardless the only one's that matter are the powers that be and they only saw 1. Dominic had 1 slip-up but the rest of her routine was flawless not to mention her routine which was 10× more difficult than Miller. And just love how the commenter speaks yet again on Dominic
slip-up only this time he says it as if Shannon hadn't one. I suppose he felt we needed not any reminding of hers. This is the only thing that disgusts me where Olympic gymnasts are concerned these girl's start extremely young they must eat sleep piss walk gymnastics. They never have the option of being regular children, they bleed hurt sprain break there bodies everyday hrs on end year after year and it all comes down to a lil over a minute performance that even if u give a flawless performance u still have to stress the fuck out as if u haven't enough of that already wondering worried terrified to glance over to the judges table and ask yourself which one is the bigot this go round.? Which one despises my country? When a person dedicates there life for there dream they shouldn't have to concern themselves with giving such a powerful performance but receives an unfair score because a judge is harboring the anger they feel about the Romanian government that has nothing to do with this girl's achievement!!! The shit should be illegal!!! It not being about what it should "THE TALENT" 4and all about what it shouldn't corruption/racism/politics, all that imperative shit ya know👎😫😰💦💧WTFU!!$!
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How did Dawes have a high start score without any major releases? Despite the stuck landing, 9.9 seemed high. Her handstands were short on her pirouetting (spelling?) like Shannon's.
calculusfan1 Her shaposh mount was highly rewarded, as was her 1.5, which she introduced. Also, her dismount gave her a lot. That being said, I'm glad she later added the Hindorff release, as it made her routine much more exciting. She did it just a few months later at Worlds, so it may just not have been ready for this competition.
+calculusfan1 The rules for handstands were very different in this COP. Her pirouettes were worth a lot of value in this COP.
Horrible horrible HORRIBLE fall from Strug on the UB in her fluff. God... Ouch. ...
That Jennie Thompson looks like she is 7 or 8 years old.
@TheFoxWhisperer You are 12-13 in 7th grade.
Summer Reid reminds me of Rebecca Bross!
I gotta agree that Dawes shouldn't have won floor. Dawes may have had more exciting tumbling, but the choreography was horrendous and had no flow. Miller had solid tumbling and amazing choreography. Her routine also didn't contain that obvious balance error that Dawes had.
Stop! There is NO WAY you thought those routines were on par. BTW, this is the last quad that allowed for a bunch of easy front tumbling to even start from a 10.
Ridiculous! Shannon’s tumbling was soooo much weaker than what Dawes did, it’s not even comparable. The fact that she even scored as close to Dawes as she did just proves how biased the scoring was in her favor. Gymnastics is about power, amplitude, and difficulty first. And Dawes choreography and music was just fine, just a different more dynamic style.
So easy tumbling...a simple stepout layout...nah...I'm fair I felt Dawes uneven bars was subpar with no release moves...Dawes had a better day
Miller was using a 3 year old routine. Super boring, and weak code whored tumbling. She also had a big mistake on her first pass which was as bad as Dawes's 2nd pass.
Summer Reid got screwed on her balance beam score! That routine was insanely difficult and she barely made any adjustments. The politics in women's gymnastics is really unfortunate.
110 pounds ?? Back when gymnasts got weight shamed if they went over 90.
They literally made several comments about Summer’s size, calling her a “Giant” when she was on beam. The commentary back then...no words!
Shannon Miller 3:15, 26:50, 33:30
Kerri Strug injury recovery 9:10
Amanda Borden 14:25, 40:00
Jennie Thompson 23:45, 30:50
shannon shpuld have won floor
It’s hard to believe that they would televise these girls weights. Because your are involved in a national Gymnastics championship you have to give up the right to keep your weight private? Unbelievable!
I do not agree with that
Either
Tim’s been doing it too long
Why are these comments so old? like 8 years?????????? 2021
The 90’s were so campy 😂😂😂
Summer ried should have won the beam and shannon should have won the floor
Dawes was on fire but those back handsprings are just... offensive. Everyone has their Achilles heel
Tim is insufferable. This fucking shit about Amanda having a bad UB landing?...and excuse me, Dawes's routine had errors? I'm not even the biggest Dawes' gymnastics fan and I can't see any errors except the .1 on the landing. Oh help me Jesus.
Rita Brown and Mary Lee Tracy with gymnasts in the same rotation. Awkward!
justalilsparkle78 what was the drama?
"only a sprained back". Okay :/
I think they just mean like it's not that bad if you compare it to how serious it looks, a broken back could have ended her career and knock injuries are obviously very dangerous for paralysis so when you put it in perspective, it being sprained doesn't seem so bad especially as she had made a comeback
Amy Chow is a doctor now. She's the only one from the 1996 Olympics who actually got a real job lol
Yes you're right! A real job.. I mean not one of those fake jobs where the athletes get million dollar deals on endorsements!!
Strug got her masters from Stanford and ended up moving to DC to work for the GOP. Real job, even if I don’t share her political beliefs. Dawes, Borden, Phelps and Moceanu all have their own gyms. I think Shannon is the only one who lives purely on endorsements and speaking engagements. I wish I didn’t have to work.
Omg Dawes leo was AWFUL😭so way Amy’s😭giving my grandmas couch
Tim is such a hater. He only wanted Shannon to win
Man he was so bias
Meh, the judges really took the crowd's opinion of gymnasts too far in this competition :I
Argh what is with the Confederate flag!!
Lisa Starseed Expat Amen! I NoticedIt IMMEDIATELY when FLOOR began!!!! I was reading through the comments section first, before I posted something about it, because I wanted to see if someone else had noticed that HATEFUL FLAG!!!!! So, I was quite happy to see that someone else had noticed that flag as well, or like me was so angered and upset at seeing that flag at a NATIONAL TELEVISED SPORTING EVENT; that they felt COMPELLED enough and ANGRY enough to actually “SPEAK UP”, (For Lack Of A Better Term), And say something about it!!!!!!!!!!! I know the times were different, believe me I know because I myself was 14 back in 1994, HOWEVER, It Still Does Not Mean We Should Just; Overlook, Ignore, OR IN MY OPINION THE VERY WORST THING WE COULD DO IS: Act As If It Does Not Matter That Much!!!!!!!!!!! That EVIL INSTRUMENT OF: HATRED, OPPRESSION, BIGOTRY AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, DISCRIMINATION, SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP IN ANY CONVERSATION; Even On A Video And Comment Section About The Sport We All LOVE, Artistic Women’s Gymnastics!!!!!!!!!
Lisa Starseed Expat unfortunately that was Georgia’s state flag at the time
I noticed that bullshit shit also its 2020 and ppl still think it's not offensive.
We're the judges paid off? Shannon should have won beam and floor.
sailormoonlove With all of those glaring deductions? No way! Her dismount was damn near a fall! In fact she was overscored this entire competition!
Shannon was overscored on both beam and floor. Boring 3 year old floor routine with pathetically weak tumbling other than an ok 1st pass (which still had a bad landing). Nearly fell on her beam dismount.
Just check the scoring system back then. Shannon had a start value that never went over ten, so every little mistake she made instantly showed in her final scores. Also I think not just in this competition but even 2 years later she was highly overscored for routines with missed handstands on bars and lack of height and distance in releases and on vault. I always wondered how she managed to be so highly praised back then even though her dancing was on point and delicate.
The only apparatus I think Shannon should have won was bars being as Dawes didn’t have a release move… but even then as much as I like Shannon, she was very overscored in a lot of these meets
Miller was screwed by cheating USAG who wanted to give Dawes a legacy and this competition was so fixed
Really!
Dawes outperformed Miller in every event.