Amanda Borden was a great example of not giving up. She didn’t make the 1992 team, kept working at it and became an integral part of the 1996 gold team medal!
I'm always in awe !!! When I watch this video !! I never get tired of watching these ladies preform !!! Gymnastics was just so awesome during this time frame !! Shannon Miller so full of grace and so humble !! Still my favorite gymnast of all time !!!!! 🙆🎉❤💯
This was the first gymnastics competition I ever recorded on VHS tape! I was 12. By the time I was 20 I had about 100 tapes! I watched them over and over😂
I had the Shannon Miller leotard catalog (she's wearing a lot of the leos and shorts in the practice shots here) and I wanted every single one!! It was the 90s and it was grand. Minus the sexual abuse that Nassar was doing behind the scenes of course.
Steve Nunno honestly just lucked out with Shannon. He never had the same level of success with any other gymnast. Shannon was more a reflection of her own skill and dedication than she was of Nunno's couching.
Shannon's family sent her to an elite gymnastic program in Europe. That's where Steve found her. He couldnt produce another champion other than Shannon even though he recieved Kerri and Jennie who were both elite.
I totally agree. Was about to correct your comment “Nunno’s couching” but on second thought, he basically acts like an irate dad watching football on the couch and yelling at the tv. That’s Steve’s style of coaching. Bitch and gripe at the tv while you’re sitting in the couch.
@@Janellabelle Some came close though. Nastia Liukin. Shawn Johnson. Carly Patterson (particularly considering how short her career was). Nobody Nunno coached had even close to the success of those though. Heck he never coached someone besides amazing Shannon with even close to the success of say Amy Chow. The point is he isn't that good a coach, and got fired from his college coaching stint after like 9 months.
Dominique was awesome but I wish her training would have incorporated ballet to help her lines and toe point. Form deductions is what caused her to not have high scores.
Part of the problem with the toes is her muscular structure (no hate Domi, LOVE YOU!) Her legs are slightly bowed which pulls the feet muscles in different directions. I am a dance instructor and one of my students had that very problem. It can be corrected some with stretching and training the muscles to go in a different direction, but this can inhibit muscle strength and power in the legs. This is why we see extremely muscular gymnasts like Simone Biles not pointing their toes. The body can often go one of two ways: powerful or graceful. That is why power AND grace are such a rare beauty! Not that Dawes doesn't have grace, she does! It's just that her muscle/bone structure wouldn't let her have the same lines as others. :)
Funny I just watched Dawes when she finally won US nationals and I was thinking for some reason how you never see her parents like most of the other girls then this came on and there's her Mom. Seems sort of weird to hear her parents don't get really involved. Anyway, I always adored Dawes.
I for one kind of get it. I was a former gymnast and dancer. And if I had a bad day at the gym or in the studio, my parents would ask if I wanted to talk about it. Whereas, with other sports (like basketball, baseball, etc) my parents would stay and watch (there wasn't a separate viewing room). My siblings both played soccer, baseball, and basketball and swimming. I personally liked not having my parents in the Gym and Dance studio room with me (I liked it was me and my coach). Also, the Dawes family lived a ways away from the Gym so Dominique eventually moved in with Kelly's family.
I think her score was a little low. There were two mistakes. One was on the landing of the front tuck and the other was on the split jump. She noticeably leaned back. Overall I think the form is what costs her. Bent knees, flexed feet, leg separation....when she has great form she qualified for EF at worlds. Amazing athlete.
She ALWAYS got ROBBED! If Shannon was in the competition she would always get 9.8 instead of 9.9 10 because they had to save the big score for Shannon. It wasn’t until 1994 when they realized hey she might be better than Shannon and she won every single competition that year
Women's gymnastics is the 90s was much more impressive than it is today. It seems like on the beam they had to do more, and the passes on floor were crazy amazing!
What was the release move that Shannon did from low to high bar in the beginning of the routine? It almost looks like a bail except opposite going to low to high instead of high to low....
Amanda Borden was a member of the Magnificent 7 in 1996 and performed the best beam routine of her entire career during the team finals in Atlanta. Shannon was and is my favorite gymnast of all time but all the credit to Amanda for her perseverance and tenacity during her career!
geezus. Shannon Miller gets scolded on her whole routine for a single balance check and small hop. I'm a little bit shocked. I know those things count but her perfection is so expected that they barely care about the good things. It's interesting watching this compared to gymnastics now... wow Dominique. She's incredible.
Magenta Spikes ya I was coached by Shannon’s coach and I was at her gym at around the same time. I used to love gymnastics before we moved to Oklahoma. I quit. The pressure was unimaginable.
Nunno always seemed like a bit of a hothead and a jerk. Shannon must have been very well adjusted not to burn out with this guy. One of the greatest US gymnasts of all time.
Dominic is incredible to bad she's not given a fair score. But the Olympics is all race & politics and rarely about what it should "the technique of the sport". This was especially so in 1993..
I had him for a short time before I broke my back, and he was awesome! Always a great motivator. My favorite coach alongside Russian ones I had, yuri and Lubinka.
Ya know its funny to think that in 1993-95, Kerri was just a background gymnast, a relatively unknown, but then in Atlanta 1996, she became America's hero when she stuck her vault on one leg in the Atlanta Team Finals.
Kerri had several injuries during this time which she fought through. She was not a back ground gymnast though especially when she helped Daws lead the US to a silver medal at worlds about six weeks after fracturing her back in94 .
She didn't stick her vault on one leg....if she had, she would have not injured her other leg....shr landed on two feet....so....ha she did not win the Gold for the USA....if had already been won by the time she went to vault ha so.....ha
What are you talking about? Kerri was the last up to go in Atlanta and needed a 9.4 average. After falling on her first vault she had to go again on a broken leg to win the gold for USA. she may not have landed all the way on 1 leg but as soon as she hit the ground she picked the broken leg up and basically collapsed after soluting.
@@GwindorC Incorrect. After Dominique Moceanu fell on both vaults, the US team needed Kerri's vault or they would have lost to the Russians. Kerri fell on her 1st vault, the score was too low to clinch the gold and landed her 2nd vault, hense clinching the gold for the team. She recently said that 'finally, all eyes were on me'. You can Google it, wikipedia for Kerri Strug or any references will confirm it. I usually check my facts before commenting and that might not be a bad idea for you as well. Have a nice day!
@@debbieb5861 The beginning of your comment is an arrogant, one-word "incorrect." The end of your comment is a passive-aggressive "Have a nice day!" That is the most obnoxious combination. In any event, it has been established that the Americans would have beat the Russians even without Kerri Strug's second vault, since they drop the lowest vault score of each team. They didn't know that until afterward, though, because the final Russian gymnast hadn't completed her floor routine yet (at which she didn't score well). It says it right on Kerri Strug's Wikipedia page, and it's also in Dominique Moceanu's autobiography, "Off Balance." It also says it here in a 1996 issue of Sports Illustrated: "The U.S. would have won the gold without Strug's last vault, but neither she nor her teammates knew that at the time." www.si.com/vault/1996/07/24/216315/us-women-gymnastics-gold-1996-olympics-atlanta-kerri-strug Everyone wanted it to be the heroic, injured vault that saved the day, and it could have been, but ultimately the Americans would have won without it. I guess this time you dropped the ball in your pre-post fact-checking?
I was only 6 months old when this aired on television! My mom put me in gymnastics when I was 3 or 4 years old, and I quit after about two weeks! Nowadays I would rather watch this sport rather than actually do it!
BW Coakley : I would say Yes. Dominique had a very difficult routine performed superbly. And she stuck her landing on what was called one of the most difficult dismounts. She was robbed.
Depending on the rules she may have had a 10.0 SV. She has two Ds and an E so if she was under AA rules she had 10.0, if EF she is at 9.90 SV. Shannon was at 10.0 regardless of rules as she had 3Ds and an E.
I don’t know. I, too thought Kelli Hill looked like an admirable coach, but after hearing Dawes reflecting back on her time with Hill, it doesn’t seem like Kelli was all that great behind closed doors. Mary Lee Tracy has also come out as problematic. Not sure if I would want them to be influential as the Karoylis, because we all know how that turned out.
I believe it did exist, the Japanese filmed the 1994 winter Olympics in HD, you can find that here on RUclips. The US just didn't film or broadcast in HD at that time.
Dominique wow what a talent she was! If she hit that same floor routine in All-Around in the Atlanta Olympics she would have been the Gold Medalist! Shannon was amazing on beam as always!
I'm not sure she would have won gold but she would have definitely medalled, because she still had vault and some other gymnasts had their higher scoring events coming up because the vault scoring in 96 was typically quite low
@@Janellabelle yep. She had flexed feet quite a bit throughout her career. She would be soft in her back on bars a lot too. She was good but personally, I never enjoyed watching her gymnastics as much as the ones that were much more artistic
Tim Daggett at 10:45 in the video was speaking about Kevin Brown and him coaching Amanda Borden (at that moment), and that he trained a great gymnast Brandy Johnson. Ummmm, he also coached 92 Olympic Bronze medalist Wendy Bruce which I think would be a more important stat Tim (Yes Brandy Johnson was a great gymnast, but she never won an Olympic medal like Wendy did).
+James R But Wendy won a bronze medal as part of the US team in Barcelona. Brandy Johnson was a National Champion and won a silver on VT at the 1989 Worlds, which was unheard of at that time when the Soviets and Romanians dominated everything. The US wouldn't win another medal on vault for 17 years. Not to mention that the US team (Brandy Johnson was a key member) were the winners of team bronze in Seoul, but lost it due to a technical rule enforced by Ellen Berger from East Germany. In 1988, Brandy Johnson actually had the 2nd best vault score in vaulting finals, but that was before the new life rule, so she finished 5th. Brandy also made the AA finals at the Olympics. Wendy Bruce, while an AA finalist at the 1989 Worlds, did not make any finals in Barcelona. If you are comparing the accolades of both Bruce and Johnson, Brandy comes out on top.
+mchur001 I agree with your comment; plus Tim & Brandy were contemporaries, fellow '88 Olympians. he was also a newbie as a commentator. fast forward 10 or 15 years, I'm sure he would've added something along the lines of,"...& Barcelona bronze medalist, Wendy Bruce. "
It's not really a matter of opinion. He pretty much factually showed why Brandy Johnson is more noteworthy than Wendy Bruce. I knew little about either, and don't care about one over the other, and after reading his comment I'm pretty convinced Brandy Johnson accomplished way more than Wendy Bruce. Just seems like a matter of facts to me, not opinion.
They look young because sometimes, well... they are forced to not grow up..... properly. Well, you know what i mean. The same thing happened to olga korbut. If you see this vid called korbut bio, it tells you all about it, and trust me, it ain't pretty.
Kerri's problem is that she gives up too easily and she was always injured. She could've fought to stay on the beam @13:25. I think the only reason she did a 2nd vault in 1996 was because she wanted to beat Moceanu and stop being in the shadows like she was with Miller and Zmeskal.
Why does it seem like the judges are generous with shannon? I'm not saying she isnt good but her tumbling was short on floor simple turns she was all over then she generously rewarded.Then the beam was shaky on all fronts yet big scores.
So true Shannon was damn good this night but Dominique was just as good if not better but since she was the world champ at the time they gave her big scores that whole night, they did that a lot for her through her career.
Im not gonna say that she wasnt deserving of some of the praise but her weakest event was always floor and her bars was usually basic but big scores as usual.Also as for ms dawes her difficulty was always up there and her gymnastics was exciting because she took risk which was nice but her weakness strange enough was vault but then again her degree of difficulty was always up there its the execution.Her floor and beam were the best for me personally.
As much as they should "not"..judges award for body lines, which of course are beyong the gymnasts control. Dominique, in my opinion, was a better gymnast (most of the time) yet she us slightly bo-legged which makes her look not quite as clean. Even in today's gymnastics its the same. Many do not like Biles (even though she indisputably the best in the world...if not ever) yet being very muscular many do not like her "line". Its unfair and most judges will never admit to it..
I agree wit what you said, but since 2000 i have not looked at gymnastics anymore but Biles caught my eyes last year and I had to come back to look at her vids she is really good but sadly you are right the lines and size.What people need to get is that these girls have more difficulty plus must do 4 passes now when on floor it is obvious they would be bigger than the previous girls.Sigh i really do miss the old days
Yikes. After strugs routine, that forced hug from nunno cracks me up. Strugs face was like, "get away from me or else!" Or, "uh..... what.... what are you doing?"
Kim Thomas it’s like I never would have noticed the hop on landings or balance checks if he wasn’t constantly opening his mouth to hear himself talk! Thank goodness for his guidance! (Actually, he sometimes gives accurate information that isn’t all that obvious and I wish he would stick to that!)
That's proper sports commentary! In other countries we're always shocked by how bad US commentary is. We get into technical details in Australia and Europe and American commentators talk about athletes' personal lives. No wonder Americans never understand why they don't always win.
Seems to me the judges definitely showed some favoritism.. growing up Miller was definitely my favorite.. but, watching this today and seeming Dawes and Miller both on the beam and both doing a solid routine and the point difference was shocking 😮
It’s interesting to compare Steve Numno to Kelly Hill in terms of their coaching style. Steve got lucky with Shannon Miller, as she was already doing European style training and she was so determined to be perfect and to get it right. Meanwhile Kelly has had multiple elites who have had Olympic and world success, just as recently as Dicello 2021 world all around bronze medal.
That was the problem with Bela and Nunno "this is my time in the spotlight". It was about their egos not the gymnasts. You can see Shannon Miller deflating after beam routine...they just talk about the hop.....And those hideous scrunchies that Shannon and Kerri had to wear..
I LOVED scrunchies when I was a kid in the 90's and early 00's!!!! I do not see the scrunchies as hideous at all and probably was always wearing one to either gymnastics or dance when I was a kid/teenager!!!
That's bull shit. Dominic was perfection on the beam and she's given a 9.675 Shannon Miller makes 2mistakes and her score was 9.8something. Unless you were a fucking golden child back then u were screwed!!! It's suppose to be about the sport the technique of the sport but it never is it's all about racism & politics!! I haven't the slightest why anyone would want to dedicate there entire life to something they're clearly not going to have any fairness in unless they have blonde hair and blue eyes. At least some thing's have gotten better since ´93.
The way these commentators were allowed to (and most definitely took upon themselves to) talk about the gymnasts back then is DISGUSTING!! They were SO incredibly negative! Also; Their weight being displayed along with their names is gross too!!
Tim is so annoying who calls back handsprings "flip flops"?? all he does is focus on the negatives like where deductions are being taken and what they did wrong never gives good commentary whoever made him a commentator should be fired out of a cannon
Flip flop is indeed the common name for the skill (back hand spring step out, which takes longer to say). Flic flac is usually reserved for “normal” backhand springs to two feet
Very normal response to a back handspring back then. I was an elite gymnast back then before I broke my back and more coaches than not, used that term.
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Amanda Borden was a great example of not giving up. She didn’t make the 1992 team, kept working at it and became an integral part of the 1996 gold team medal!
I'm always in awe !!! When I watch this video !! I never get tired of watching these ladies preform !!! Gymnastics was just so awesome during this time frame !! Shannon Miller so full of grace and so humble !! Still my favorite gymnast of all time !!!!! 🙆🎉❤💯
I was there! I can see my little 14 year old self sitting a few rows above the beam :)
This was the first gymnastics competition I ever recorded on VHS tape! I was 12. By the time I was 20 I had about 100 tapes! I watched them over and over😂
Same!
Shannon could have panicked on that bars dismount but she's a pro and so calm-- maintained good form and just a hop
Shannon’s artistry is unmatched even to this day
Absolutely! She was special ❤
Agreed❤
Right!
What's with all the negative comments here? The leotards were from the 90s, routines were different as were styles. Enjoy it for what it was.
I had the Shannon Miller leotard catalog (she's wearing a lot of the leos and shorts in the practice shots here) and I wanted every single one!! It was the 90s and it was grand. Minus the sexual abuse that Nassar was doing behind the scenes of course.
well said
@@koolaidman6251 yes! Loved the crushed velvet ones. They were so comfortable.
Always loved Dawes. So heartbreaking that she never got the all around in a world championship.
Awesome Dawesome and that beam routine holy molly!! I also love her coach and the words of encouragement from her!!! ❤
Steve Nunno honestly just lucked out with Shannon. He never had the same level of success with any other gymnast. Shannon was more a reflection of her own skill and dedication than she was of Nunno's couching.
No American coach ever had the same success with any other gymnast for a LONG TIME.
Shannon's family sent her to an elite gymnastic program in Europe. That's where Steve found her. He couldnt produce another champion other than Shannon even though he recieved Kerri and Jennie who were both elite.
I totally agree. Was about to correct your comment “Nunno’s couching” but on second thought, he basically acts like an irate dad watching football on the couch and yelling at the tv. That’s Steve’s style of coaching. Bitch and gripe at the tv while you’re sitting in the couch.
@@Janellabelle Some came close though. Nastia Liukin. Shawn Johnson. Carly Patterson (particularly considering how short her career was). Nobody Nunno coached had even close to the success of those though. Heck he never coached someone besides amazing Shannon with even close to the success of say Amy Chow. The point is he isn't that good a coach, and got fired from his college coaching stint after like 9 months.
@@Miathegr8 Yes and neither Kerri or Jennie had their best gymnastics under Nunno.
No one compared to Shannon’s form.
Borden looked adorable back then!
Dominique was awesome but I wish her training would have incorporated ballet to help her lines and toe point. Form deductions is what caused her to not have high scores.
Part of the problem with the toes is her muscular structure (no hate Domi, LOVE YOU!) Her legs are slightly bowed which pulls the feet muscles in different directions. I am a dance instructor and one of my students had that very problem. It can be corrected some with stretching and training the muscles to go in a different direction, but this can inhibit muscle strength and power in the legs. This is why we see extremely muscular gymnasts like Simone Biles not pointing their toes. The body can often go one of two ways: powerful or graceful. That is why power AND grace are such a rare beauty! Not that Dawes doesn't have grace, she does! It's just that her muscle/bone structure wouldn't let her have the same lines as others. :)
Funny I just watched Dawes when she finally won US nationals and I was thinking for some reason how you never see her parents like most of the other girls then this came on and there's her Mom. Seems sort of weird to hear her parents don't get really involved. Anyway, I always adored Dawes.
I for one kind of get it. I was a former gymnast and dancer. And if I had a bad day at the gym or in the studio, my parents would ask if I wanted to talk about it. Whereas, with other sports (like basketball, baseball, etc) my parents would stay and watch (there wasn't a separate viewing room). My siblings both played soccer, baseball, and basketball and swimming. I personally liked not having my parents in the Gym and Dance studio room with me (I liked it was me and my coach). Also, the Dawes family lived a ways away from the Gym so Dominique eventually moved in with Kelly's family.
I thought the same. Why did her coach pay for her medical bills? Sounds a bit weird to me. Sad really. Poor girl.
These girls were from my generation :)
Some of these coaches were monsters
Dominique Dawes was ripped off on that balance beam score !
Kelly Hill seems so pure!! And happy!!
She really was, I haven't seen anyone do that on beam before, even now
I think her score was a little low. There were two mistakes. One was on the landing of the front tuck and the other was on the split jump. She noticeably leaned back. Overall I think the form is what costs her. Bent knees, flexed feet, leg separation....when she has great form she qualified for EF at worlds. Amazing athlete.
@@ranacrouch776 Sure, but the usual Nationals score inflation should've brought the score up to at least 9.8
You can recognize a Karolyi-trained gymnast by the look of barely-contained terror in her eyes.
Lol! I know right! 😂
This!!! Hahaha
wow this is so nice!!! thanks
Dawes was ripped off on the beam..9.65m should've been 9.85+!
Thank you
Almost like this was an attempt to guarantee Shanon wins.
Facts
Dominique Dawes & Shannon Miller were the best back then
Shannon beautiful gymnast !!!!!!!! So good and underrated!
Dominique deserved a 10 on beam!!!!
Or at least a 9.9!!!
Two balance wobbles but other than that she did great. I still wish they had this kind of artistry and grace and gymnastics now.
Thank you she was so robbed
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She ALWAYS got ROBBED! If Shannon was in the competition she would always get 9.8 instead of 9.9 10 because they had to save the big score for Shannon. It wasn’t until 1994 when they realized hey she might be better than Shannon and she won every single competition that year
I love how ballsy Amanda Borden always was, especially on beam. Those jump series! Yaaaasss
The handspring-handspring-two foot layout pass was pretty rare for the time, I think only a few Chinese gymnasts had gone for it before.
great! are the event finals available?
Dawes underscored on beam and floor wth?
Women's gymnastics is the 90s was much more impressive than it is today. It seems like on the beam they had to do more, and the passes on floor were crazy amazing!
What was the release move that Shannon did from low to high bar in the beginning of the routine? It almost looks like a bail except opposite going to low to high instead of high to low....
It's the same transition from the compulsory bar set in '92.
Pretty sure it is a free hecht half to the high bar.
@@anonanon8998 yep.
Amanda Borden was a member of the Magnificent 7 in 1996 and performed the best beam routine of her entire career during the team finals in Atlanta. Shannon was and is my favorite gymnast of all time but all the credit to Amanda for her perseverance and tenacity during her career!
geezus. Shannon Miller gets scolded on her whole routine for a single balance check and small hop. I'm a little bit shocked. I know those things count but her perfection is so expected that they barely care about the good things.
It's interesting watching this compared to gymnastics now...
wow Dominique. She's incredible.
Magenta Spikes ya I was coached by Shannon’s coach and I was at her gym at around the same time. I used to love gymnastics before we moved to Oklahoma. I quit. The pressure was unimaginable.
Nunno always seemed like a bit of a hothead and a jerk. Shannon must have been very well adjusted not to burn out with this guy. One of the greatest US gymnasts of all time.
Dominic is incredible to bad she's not given a fair score. But the Olympics is all race & politics and rarely about what it should "the technique of the sport". This was especially so in 1993..
I had him for a short time before I broke my back, and he was awesome! Always a great motivator. My favorite coach alongside Russian ones I had, yuri and Lubinka.
luv gynastics
*love
Awesome Dawesome !!
Ya know its funny to think that in 1993-95, Kerri was just a background gymnast, a relatively unknown, but then in Atlanta 1996, she became America's hero when she stuck her vault on one leg in the Atlanta Team Finals.
Kerri had several injuries during this time which she fought through. She was not a back ground gymnast though especially when she helped Daws lead the US to a silver medal at worlds about six weeks after fracturing her back in94 .
She didn't stick her vault on one leg....if she had, she would have not injured her other leg....shr landed on two feet....so....ha she did not win the Gold for the USA....if had already been won by the time she went to vault ha so.....ha
What are you talking about? Kerri was the last up to go in Atlanta and needed a 9.4 average. After falling on her first vault she had to go again on a broken leg to win the gold for USA. she may not have landed all the way on 1 leg but as soon as she hit the ground she picked the broken leg up and basically collapsed after soluting.
@@GwindorC Incorrect. After Dominique Moceanu fell on both vaults, the US team needed Kerri's vault or they would have lost to the Russians. Kerri fell on her 1st vault, the score was too low to clinch the gold and landed her 2nd vault, hense clinching the gold for the team. She recently said that 'finally, all eyes were on me'. You can Google it, wikipedia for Kerri Strug or any references will confirm it. I usually check my facts before commenting and that might not be a bad idea for you as well. Have a nice day!
@@debbieb5861 The beginning of your comment is an arrogant, one-word "incorrect." The end of your comment is a passive-aggressive "Have a nice day!" That is the most obnoxious combination.
In any event, it has been established that the Americans would have beat the Russians even without Kerri Strug's second vault, since they drop the lowest vault score of each team. They didn't know that until afterward, though, because the final Russian gymnast hadn't completed her floor routine yet (at which she didn't score well). It says it right on Kerri Strug's Wikipedia page, and it's also in Dominique Moceanu's autobiography, "Off Balance." It also says it here in a 1996 issue of Sports Illustrated: "The U.S. would have won the gold without Strug's last vault, but neither she nor her teammates knew that at the time."
www.si.com/vault/1996/07/24/216315/us-women-gymnastics-gold-1996-olympics-atlanta-kerri-strug
Everyone wanted it to be the heroic, injured vault that saved the day, and it could have been, but ultimately the Americans would have won without it.
I guess this time you dropped the ball in your pre-post fact-checking?
Anyone know what movie Amanda's floor music from?
Robin Hood: Prince of Theives
+nsyncchick8877 Love this music; I wish someone would use it again.
beam has changed quite a bit over the years!
I love how THE scrunchie was a requirement at Nunno's.
I used to call it the “Nunno bow”😂
sick!
I was only 6 months old when this aired on television! My mom put me in gymnastics when I was 3 or 4 years old, and I quit after about two weeks! Nowadays I would rather watch this sport rather than actually do it!
Why did the beam break in that first clip geez
Who's having that awful crash the in warm up in the background at 3:01?
Was Dominique underscored on the beam?
BW Coakley : I would say Yes. Dominique had a very difficult routine performed superbly. And she stuck her landing on what was called one of the most difficult dismounts. She was robbed.
her routine was not out of a 10.0 at Worlds, so I'm sure start value played a factor. Still, it was a fairly low score for such a great routine !
I want to say, YES! Her routine was near perfect!
Depending on the rules she may have had a 10.0 SV. She has two Ds and an E so if she was under AA rules she had 10.0, if EF she is at 9.90 SV.
Shannon was at 10.0 regardless of rules as she had 3Ds and an E.
I say yes. I believe her whole career has ben under scored! I say she's better than miller
Mary Lee Tracy and Kelli Hill had such great positive energy during this Period. I wish they had been as influential as the Karolyis.
I don’t know. I, too thought Kelli Hill looked like an admirable coach, but after hearing Dawes reflecting back on her time with Hill, it doesn’t seem like Kelli was all that great behind closed doors. Mary Lee Tracy has also come out as problematic. Not sure if I would want them to be influential as the Karoylis, because we all know how that turned out.
ROBIN HOOD SOUNDTRACK ON AMANDA'S FLOOR ROUTINE 😍😍😍😘
The drama NBC would make around these girls. Geez
HD didn't exist when this was filmed. They can't show it in HD.
I believe it did exist, the Japanese filmed the 1994 winter Olympics in HD, you can find that here on RUclips. The US just didn't film or broadcast in HD at that time.
3:02 The girl in The back. 😂😂😂😂
That was Kim Arnold!
Dominique wow what a talent she was! If she hit that same floor routine in All-Around in the Atlanta Olympics she would have been the Gold Medalist! Shannon was amazing on beam as always!
I'm not sure she would have won gold but she would have definitely medalled, because she still had vault and some other gymnasts had their higher scoring events coming up because the vault scoring in 96 was typically quite low
Poor Dom was always so underscored
She was gifted on the bars tho with her flat feet on every release move.
@@Janellabelle yep. She had flexed feet quite a bit throughout her career. She would be soft in her back on bars a lot too. She was good but personally, I never enjoyed watching her gymnastics as much as the ones that were much more artistic
Hugs omar 🤗 💙
Kerri Strug 5:40, 11:40, 36:00, 38:30, 41:45, 42:30
Shannon Miller 9:25, 20:50, 29:40, 39:30
Amanda Borden 10:40, 23:15, 32:50
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I think it's funny how they talk the same 😂😂😂
Anyone else notice the girl in the background around 3:00 ? She hit her head pretty hard, it reminds me of what happened to McKayla Maroney in 2012!
That was for sure a concussion
Poor girl that crashed onto her back and head at 3:02
Every time Kerri screwed up, she was injured after.
Dawes was robbed on beam.
Tim Daggett at 10:45 in the video was speaking about Kevin Brown and him coaching Amanda Borden (at that moment), and that he trained a great gymnast Brandy Johnson. Ummmm, he also coached 92 Olympic Bronze medalist Wendy Bruce which I think would be a more important stat Tim (Yes Brandy Johnson was a great gymnast, but she never won an Olympic medal like Wendy did).
+James R But Wendy won a bronze medal as part of the US team in Barcelona. Brandy Johnson was a National Champion and won a silver on VT at the 1989 Worlds, which was unheard of at that time when the Soviets and Romanians dominated everything. The US wouldn't win another medal on vault for 17 years. Not to mention that the US team (Brandy Johnson was a key member) were the winners of team bronze in Seoul, but lost it due to a technical rule enforced by Ellen Berger from East Germany. In 1988, Brandy Johnson actually had the 2nd best vault score in vaulting finals, but that was before the new life rule, so she finished 5th. Brandy also made the AA finals at the Olympics. Wendy Bruce, while an AA finalist at the 1989 Worlds, did not make any finals in Barcelona. If you are comparing the accolades of both Bruce and Johnson, Brandy comes out on top.
Matter of opinion. I totally disagree.
+mchur001 I agree with your comment; plus Tim & Brandy were contemporaries, fellow '88 Olympians. he was also a newbie as a commentator. fast forward 10 or 15 years, I'm sure he would've added something along the lines of,"...& Barcelona bronze medalist, Wendy Bruce. "
It's not really a matter of opinion. He pretty much factually showed why Brandy Johnson is more noteworthy than Wendy Bruce. I knew little about either, and don't care about one over the other, and after reading his comment I'm pretty convinced Brandy Johnson accomplished way more than Wendy Bruce. Just seems like a matter of facts to me, not opinion.
Agreed. Brandy was the star of USA gymnastics from 88-90-ish, winning the nationals, American Cup, et cetera. Wendy never won anything.
How old were these girls? they look a lot younger than todays gymnasts.
Most of them were only 16. Since Nadia, who was only 14 at Montreal 1976, almost everything was allowed.
They look young because sometimes, well... they are forced to not grow up..... properly. Well, you know what i mean. The same thing happened to olga korbut. If you see this vid called korbut bio, it tells you all about it, and trust me, it ain't pretty.
14 or 15
That opening fluff piece on Amanda did not age well!!
I love this...my dream was to go elite but my dad wouldn't let me
Mine too! I did but broke my back after 2 years. I still struggle with depression because of it.
Kim Zmesko? Al....
21:46 The Miller!
Kerri's problem is that she gives up too easily and she was always injured. She could've fought to stay on the beam @13:25. I think the only reason she did a 2nd vault in 1996 was because she wanted to beat Moceanu and stop being in the shadows like she was with Miller and Zmeskal.
I think Kerri tried of being second best back in 1992 & 1993 & 1996... Kerri won the American championship all the round in 1996
Kerri never gave up! She kept on battling on chy chy, you dork!
@@lewis4ladyvols Shannon won US championship in 96. I think you're thinking of American Cup, which Kerri won in 96 (I'm pretty sure she won).
These hairstyles are awesome 😅
So many waterfall bangs, so little time.
Why does it seem like the judges are generous with shannon? I'm not saying she isnt good but her tumbling was short on floor simple turns she was all over then she generously rewarded.Then the beam was shaky on all fronts yet big scores.
So true Shannon was damn good this night but Dominique was just as good if not better but since she was the world champ at the time they gave her big scores that whole night, they did that a lot for her through her career.
Im not gonna say that she wasnt deserving of some of the praise but her weakest event was always floor and her bars was usually basic but big scores as usual.Also as for ms dawes her difficulty was always up there and her gymnastics was exciting because she took risk which was nice but her weakness strange enough was vault but then again her degree of difficulty was always up there its the execution.Her floor and beam were the best for me personally.
As much as they should "not"..judges award for body lines, which of course are beyong the gymnasts control. Dominique, in my opinion, was a better gymnast (most of the time) yet she us slightly bo-legged which makes her look not quite as clean. Even in today's gymnastics its the same. Many do not like Biles (even though she indisputably the best in the world...if not ever) yet being very muscular many do not like her "line". Its unfair and most judges will never admit to it..
I agree wit what you said, but since 2000 i have not looked at gymnastics anymore but Biles caught my eyes last year and I had to come back to look at her vids she is really good but sadly you are right the lines and size.What people need to get is that these girls have more difficulty plus must do 4 passes now when on floor it is obvious they would be bigger than the previous girls.Sigh i really do miss the old days
Dominique was bow-legged at birth and had to wear a brace til her first birthday (which I found out from reading the Magnificent 7 Book).
Yikes. After strugs routine, that forced hug from nunno cracks me up. Strugs face was like, "get away from me or else!" Or, "uh..... what.... what are you doing?"
Depois de qual aparelho?
I am so glad with have Dagget to point put all the mistakes
Kim Thomas it’s like I never would have noticed the hop on landings or balance checks if he wasn’t constantly opening his mouth to hear himself talk! Thank goodness for his guidance! (Actually, he sometimes gives accurate information that isn’t all that obvious and I wish he would stick to that!)
That's proper sports commentary! In other countries we're always shocked by how bad US commentary is. We get into technical details in Australia and Europe and American commentators talk about athletes' personal lives.
No wonder Americans never understand why they don't always win.
USA Gymnastics: you wore nice leotards back then.
How did Shannon scored a 9.9 on bars? BS
Her form was impeccable. Straight line in handstands, legs together and toes pointed throughout the routine.
Dominique Dawes was robbed in this competition. 9.675 on beam?!? Where! 🥴
It’s so creepy how they made Kerri Strug look exactly like Shannon Miller who they made look exactly like Peggy. It’s disgusting.
Each club wore the same leotards and usually only had one person to help with their hair. Not so unusual back then.
Seems to me the judges definitely showed some favoritism.. growing up Miller was definitely my favorite.. but, watching this today and seeming Dawes and Miller both on the beam and both doing a solid routine and the point difference was shocking 😮
I don't care what sport it is, winning hurts
It’s interesting to compare Steve Numno to Kelly Hill in terms of their coaching style. Steve got lucky with Shannon Miller, as she was already doing European style training and she was so determined to be perfect and to get it right. Meanwhile Kelly has had multiple elites who have had Olympic and world success, just as recently as Dicello 2021 world all around bronze medal.
9.6 FOR DAWES ON BEAN?
Yes, I agree that was a rip off too.
She was always scored unfairly!
Omg tim looks like a girl
Poor Bella. Not.
90s leos...poor kids. They were truly fugly.
That was the problem with Bela and Nunno "this is my time in the spotlight". It was about their egos not the gymnasts. You can see Shannon Miller deflating after beam routine...they just talk about the hop.....And those hideous scrunchies that Shannon and Kerri had to wear..
+Emmy Johnson What do the scrunchies have to do with anything? They're teenaged girls in the year 1993, those scrunchies were the epitome of cool.
I LOVED scrunchies when I was a kid in the 90's and early 00's!!!! I do not see the scrunchies as hideous at all and probably was always wearing one to either gymnastics or dance when I was a kid/teenager!!!
Emmy Johnson : I always thought of the scrunchie as a Miller trademark. It worked very well for her until she got older.
Oh come on, scrunchie apologists! They’re as big as their heads!
Emmy Johnson funny how this comment didn’t hold up! Scrunches are back! 😂
Why is Shannon making this sad face??
tim ..hehe
Tim Daggett 🤮
That's bull shit. Dominic was perfection on the beam and she's given a 9.675 Shannon Miller makes 2mistakes and her score was 9.8something. Unless you were a fucking golden child back then u were screwed!!! It's suppose to be about the sport the technique of the sport but it never is it's all about racism & politics!! I haven't the slightest why anyone would want to dedicate there entire life to something they're clearly not going to have any fairness in unless they have blonde hair and blue eyes. At least some thing's have gotten better since ´93.
Kerri strug acrobatic series form is just plain ugly LOL. But the mount on beam during this days is much more interesting compared to now.
She was forced to do from her coach steve nunno, and she couldn't choose whether to do them.
The way these commentators were allowed to (and most definitely took upon themselves to) talk about the gymnasts back then is DISGUSTING!! They were SO incredibly negative! Also; Their weight being displayed along with their names is gross too!!
Be mad about something done 30 years ago you silly unfrosted pop tart
Are you sure about dominqes the true colour and gender 🤔 because something wrong with my TV
Show in HD atleast
Rosa Days lmao😂
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Little did they know wat Dominique Dawes was going to become..what a shame her mother wasn't supportive
... They had no idea what they all were going to become.
To me,she was still,supportive. Its a different Dynamic in gymnastics or in Dance vs. Any other sport basically IMO.
kerri strug has ugly form (her tumbling run on beam)
I think she has one of the best forms! Especially her tumbling
Umm this is so old !
Well, time is linear. So.....yeah. something from a long time ago is old.
Dominique is ovs the best there but she has a HORRIBLE leotard!
Greensmoke 2 :Matter of opinion, I like her leotard.
The 90s get ova it
Tim is so annoying who calls back handsprings "flip flops"?? all he does is focus on the negatives like where deductions are being taken and what they did wrong never gives good commentary whoever made him a commentator should be fired out of a cannon
Flic-flac is another name for it
Flip flop is indeed the common name for the skill (back hand spring step out, which takes longer to say). Flic flac is usually reserved for “normal” backhand springs to two feet
I feel somewhere you do about Tim today... He drives me crazy & I don't want to listen to Tim..
Very normal response to a back handspring back then. I was an elite gymnast back then before I broke my back and more coaches than not, used that term.