1995 U.S. Gymnastics Championships - Women - All Around - Full Broadcast

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  • Aug. 17, 1995 - Superdome - New Orleans, La.
    Coca-Cola National Championships
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  • @AjdeSasha
    @AjdeSasha 2 года назад +64

    Shannon: *blinks*
    Commentators: "Miller is blinking away tears as she watches her career die in front of her eyes."

    • @JB-sg1vy
      @JB-sg1vy Год назад +1

      huh? where do the commentators say that?

    • @myplatformdiaries
      @myplatformdiaries 6 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂😂😂 omg they were so annoying

    • @coll4455
      @coll4455 5 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂

    • @brettonoverton6902
      @brettonoverton6902 3 месяца назад

      Lmao. So true.

  • @Jonnhy0989
    @Jonnhy0989 8 лет назад +46

    Moceanu!! Lovely, powerful, strong, and I just wow!
    Love her! My all time favorite!

  • @littletexas1882
    @littletexas1882 Год назад +14

    In the Summer of 1996 I was 5. Had just turned 5. And I will ALWAYS remember this one more than any other. The gymnast of ALL Countries were INCREDIBLE. I remember pretending like I was a part of the Magnificent Seven by pretending to do routines on the arm chair of my couch. A lot of things I learned by watching these ladies. How to do a cartwheel, round-off, backbend, handstand, splits, and split jumps. I idolized them. And all these year's later, coming back to reminiscence, it's a bit harder since my Sister's passing. But all these year's later, at the age of 31, and they're still as lovely, beautiful, and talented as I remember.

  • @MagentaSpikesImprov
    @MagentaSpikesImprov 6 лет назад +182

    "Shannon Miller, 18, and ancient. Hungry, and angry."
    ....alright guy, calm down.

    • @ourminiagproject6822
      @ourminiagproject6822 6 лет назад +16

      Magenta Spikes I know. It makes me upset to hear how they tear her down in this commentary! Why not commend her for still being in it despite growing up, and doing a darn good job at that! I'm glad the commentary has gotten better now with Nastia. I think she keeps Tim in check too!

    • @YaelGC7
      @YaelGC7 6 лет назад +2

      Magenta Spikes lmao

    • @CarrietheCritic
      @CarrietheCritic 5 лет назад +21

      🥇 Thinking back, Nastia Liukin won the gold medal at 18 and Simone Biles won the gold at 19. I think the whole "18 or 19 is too old" in gymnastics was garbage. 🥇

    • @codydesjardins6820
      @codydesjardins6820 4 года назад +9

      @@ourminiagproject6822 You seem to forget this is NBC. They are all about dramatics and theatrics, more than accuracy. Dawes's intro was not exactly flattering ("so many times we have seen the tears covered in pain as often as joy") but I notice you said nothing about that, probably since you are a Miller fan and not a Dawes fan.

    • @MrsTlotto
      @MrsTlotto 4 года назад +8

      @@codydesjardins6820 and said Dominique's body was failing...wtf? She's the reigning national champ. I like Shannon, but Dominique is the reason I ever fell in love with gymnastics. She's so amazing and strong.

  • @JennaLeigh
    @JennaLeigh 5 лет назад +73

    Christ almighty they spoke of 18 year old KIDS like they were elderly. ABSOLUTELY insane.

  • @anovemberstar
    @anovemberstar 3 года назад +18

    Dominique Dawes - judges at US champs 1995: "well, her body might not be up to it now she's matured ..." Dominique: - member of 1996 and 2000 Olympic teams ...

  •  6 лет назад +109

    The way the adults talk about these girls disgusts me..

    • @Marketoromagnolo
      @Marketoromagnolo 3 года назад +1

      why ?

    • @8656737s
      @8656737s 3 года назад

      Me to! They have no clue how difficult it is!

    • @weedoozer
      @weedoozer 2 года назад +3

      Bela called Dom M. a piggy while congratulating her. Then the way Tim D. discuses the “beautiful lines” on Jaycee was just messed up! I have also noticed Marta always grabs the girls neck when talking with them. It just seems odd.

    • @sdavis5001
      @sdavis5001 Год назад +2

      @@weedoozer Bela was a pretty much a nightmare coach, we know that. But, I believe that piggy was just a “cutesy” nickname that didn’t sound right to many. She was just a tiny, 14 y/o 4’6.6” baby, a powerful package, and that struck me as like the baby of the team name. Jmo. In the ‘96 Olympics, Elfie & what’s his name discussed the girls body forms. I think that he was referring to her as a beautifully formed athlete, and nothing more.
      No way am I disputing, please. It’s funny how the human mind can perceive words & actions so differently. Now MARTA…..well, that pair wanted champions, not a picnic. They made sure of that. Moceanu opened up about that; I found it fascinating coming from her. 😢

    • @tatilalima2874
      @tatilalima2874 Год назад

      ​@@weedoozer verdade, já observei isso a Martha segurando o pescoço das meninas. Em 2008 beijing, após a Alicia sacramoni cair no solo, Martha segura seu pescoço e fala alguma coisa pra ela que a deixa muito mal

  • @alisonleigh100
    @alisonleigh100 2 года назад +21

    Ok I miss floor passes like Dominique Dawes first pass in her floor routine. Sooo beautiful and impressive to watch!

    • @JB-sg1vy
      @JB-sg1vy Год назад

      yes honey preach

    • @wheresbaby7783
      @wheresbaby7783 Год назад +1

      Bad bad bad intro..we now know 18 is not old for a gymnast

  • @Pinkkermit17
    @Pinkkermit17 3 года назад +12

    I am so glad they don’t advertise the girls weight anymore like they have done in the past.

  • @MissLilRedRooster
    @MissLilRedRooster 6 лет назад +125

    They make Shannon Miller sound like a grouchy, elderly Tyrannosaurus with that intro..

    • @MeriPT
      @MeriPT 4 года назад +3

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @000JayDub
      @000JayDub 4 года назад +3

      I’m laughing so hard at this!

    • @annanicole1717
      @annanicole1717 3 года назад +4

      They suck. I can not believe the crap they got away with. The abuse was right down the line. From coaches, to doctors, to commentators, and so on and so on. The microphones should have been muted.

    • @trodairebeag
      @trodairebeag 3 года назад +1

      Cuz back then 17 was old for the sport!! We find out later that want the case!!!

    • @alisonleigh100
      @alisonleigh100 2 года назад +1

      😂

  • @Emmehxx
    @Emmehxx 6 лет назад +33

    The fluff may be corny, but during Moceanu's at about 23:15, her footwork on beam was beautiful. I feel like gymnasts today don't pay attention to the little things like being on high toe on beam. That's one of the downsides of no more compulsories.. they used to have to focus on dance at least somewhat for the compulsory routines. It's most evident in everyone's full turns now a days, they used to look so much cleaner.

    • @TaurusWitch29
      @TaurusWitch29 Год назад +1

      I wish they still had compulsaries 😢 it's changed so much

  • @stephaniebrannon2240
    @stephaniebrannon2240 3 года назад +14

    Dominique Moceanu is so freaking adorable 😍

  • @mindyschocolate
    @mindyschocolate 4 года назад +39

    God, this fluff is something else. So ‘90s.

  • @kimdukeshire4506
    @kimdukeshire4506 7 лет назад +60

    Dominique Moceanu is the BEST!!

    • @annanicole1717
      @annanicole1717 4 года назад +6

      Kim Dukeshire yes but Shannon Miller is such an elegant dancer.

    • @Janellabelle
      @Janellabelle 2 года назад +3

      I love her personality. She WAS a tiger...they just didnt know how at the time. She unfortunately completely choked at the Olympics though. Still the smallest 14 year old I've EVER seen that isnt a dwarf being 4'6 and 70 pounds. 🥴

    • @koolaidman6251
      @koolaidman6251 2 года назад +5

      @@Janellabelle She was severely injured at the Olympics -- it isn't her fault. She had a broken leg that Bela refused to let heal. She was forced to jump on a broken leg for 8hrs/day for the weeks and months leading up to the Olympics. She also fell on her neck and was forced to continue competing without a proper medical exam. She didn't choke, she was abused to a breaking point -- beaten, starved, and limping in a broken leg. Anyone would fall in those circumstances, even a tiger like Dominique.

    • @extrememakeoverfan
      @extrememakeoverfan 2 года назад +3

      @@Janellabelle her only big mistake she made during team finals was the vault. And maybe the fact that the white mat was removed contributed to that, I don’t know though. Give her a break, she was injured, malnourished and over worked. She contributed pretty high scores on everything else. So sad in her book she said the first thing her dad said to her after making history was “what happened with your vaults”

    • @sdavis5001
      @sdavis5001 Год назад

      @@extrememakeoverfan We know she didn’t “choke”, but her vault falls weren’t due to her injury. Elfie was a professional commentator, and we could even see that she opened up her arms and her balance too early. Elfie also pointed out she hadn’t practiced that vault enough. So many ppl comment about her injury causing any issues. Pretty much throughout the entire team finals, they let it be known her injury didn’t have any effect on any slip ups; she rarely did if any. I go with a pro speaking, and that tiny powerhouse was amazing. I never knew what her score was on the beam, though 🧐🧐

  • @sariakokiri3734
    @sariakokiri3734 9 лет назад +79

    Wow, and I thought TODAY'S competition fluff was overdramatic! This is just crazy!

    • @stevencoardvenice
      @stevencoardvenice 8 лет назад +14

      u can't handle the fluff

    • @2ndchancehypnotherapy
      @2ndchancehypnotherapy 5 лет назад +1

      😂🤣

    • @DizzyedUpGirl
      @DizzyedUpGirl 4 года назад +6

      Oh no, there is nothing like late 80's and 90's gymnastics fluffs. So fluffy it's like a Bichon Frise.

    • @richardross4677
      @richardross4677 3 года назад +2

      @@DizzyedUpGirl Watch the Gutsu and Galieva fluffies from Atlanta. Classic.

  • @CarrietheCritic
    @CarrietheCritic 5 лет назад +40

    🥇 Thinking back, Nastia Liukin won the gold medal at 18 and Simone Biles won the gold at 19. I think the whole "18 or 19 is too old" in gymnastics was garbage. 🥇

    • @kras118
      @kras118 4 года назад +9

      Definitely agree. Raising the age restrictions allowed for more late teens/early 20s to compete and be viable. Back in the '96, you could be 13 and win and win the senior title, leading people to act like the 18 y/o was obsolete

    • @DizzyedUpGirl
      @DizzyedUpGirl 4 года назад +5

      The average age has definitely gotten higher for elite gymnasts. Seems like people are viable for longer now.

    • @missmoxie9188
      @missmoxie9188 4 года назад +3

      It IS garbage

    • @RedheadedCurlgirl
      @RedheadedCurlgirl 4 года назад +6

      Kelly Stout , that’s because they’re not being starved anymore.

    • @jorgebonilla2234
      @jorgebonilla2234 7 месяцев назад +1

      It was even crazy back then- I mean half of the Mag7 were 19, everyone but Domi M and maybe Jaycee were college age and that experience helped them tremendously.

  • @philamchild442
    @philamchild442 2 года назад +8

    I like Dominic Moceanu, she’s powerful and the best among others…she’s very sweet girl and I like the way she moves her shoulder and very graceful….she has her own signature the way she raises her chest, her chin and hands after performing all the routines. Her balance beam is the most difficult movements compared to Nadia Comaneci. She’s the only gymnast with her own signature, poise and with class in performing her all exercise routines.

  • @angelat.8997
    @angelat.8997 3 года назад +17

    Didn’t Bela retire approximately 67 times?

    • @christytdale8225
      @christytdale8225 2 года назад

      Twice during a leap year. It gets confusing.

  • @Shakespearelover1717
    @Shakespearelover1717 Год назад +3

    As I watch this 28 years after the original telecast, I feel omniscient. Now we know the answers and the outcome. I still have abiding respect for Shannon Miller with all she’s been through in recent years. But her best was yet to come at the time of this competition.

  • @coolbeansmuchacha
    @coolbeansmuchacha 9 лет назад +65

    I see Tim hasn't changed his commentary at all in the last 20 years.

  • @Cmc995
    @Cmc995 3 года назад +12

    Love what a fighter Shannon was/is. They would try to write her off and she’d come back and win

  • @elleamo92
    @elleamo92 3 года назад +8

    Dominique Moceanu has such beautiful eyes

  • @taminator664
    @taminator664 10 лет назад +13

    To the person who inquired about Dominque Moceanu competing (and winning) the US National title at age 13 during that time in the year before an Olympics any gymnast who turned 14 during the entire year could compete at the senior level. The competition was held in the summer and Dominque turned 14 in September. The rules have since been changed since that time.

  • @taminator664
    @taminator664 10 лет назад +32

    I love gymnastics but I have noticed that the gymnast the media hypes to become the next Olympic all-around champion does not happen nor does that gymnast turn out to be the top performer for the US team at the games. In 1992 Kim Zmeskal was touted as the next Olympic champ, but it turned out Shannon Miller was the top US gymnast at these games. In 1996 Dominique Moceanu was touted, Shannon Miller was the top US gymnast at the games, but everyone was overshadowed by Kerri Strug's vault on a sprained ankle. 2008, Shawn Johnson was hyped as the next star, but Nastia Luikin was the top US performer. And finally in 2012 it was all about Jordyn Weiber winning the gold all-around (she ended up not qualifying) and Gabby Douglas was the star.

    • @GymFan-ts4pq
      @GymFan-ts4pq 8 лет назад +7

      But Carly Patterson is an exception and Mary Lou

    • @GymFan-ts4pq
      @GymFan-ts4pq 8 лет назад +2

      ***** the All around at the Olympics is always close and tight I don't think we've saw a clear blow out in a long time. Makes me wonder about next year..but then again who can we compare to the dominance of Simone?

    • @kras118
      @kras118 8 лет назад +3

      +tmwalkerm Ohashi did in fact beat Simone in their first meet as senior elites, the American Cup in 2013. Ohashi has been injured, though, and has pulled back from elite gymnastics. She is set to compete for UCLA and will not be going for Rio.

    • @almajurisic16
      @almajurisic16 8 лет назад +1

      That makes me really nervous for Simone Biles. 😅😬

    • @GymFan-ts4pq
      @GymFan-ts4pq 8 лет назад +1

      ajlove2013 dont be Simone has defied limits and history like no other. Im sure this is no different

  • @randomedits7325
    @randomedits7325 Год назад +5

    Moceanu is an queen👑

  • @kdaze10
    @kdaze10 4 года назад +23

    It's crazy that Bela said he was worried moceano (sp?) Might have too much success, too soon....and it ended up pretty much being accurate...

    • @jarrodwoods7605
      @jarrodwoods7605 4 года назад +4

      She was so overrated

    • @ilikeyoutube836
      @ilikeyoutube836 3 года назад +7

      @@jarrodwoods7605 No she wasn't. She was a prodigy, with amazing talent and potential. She was the youngest junior and senior national champion, the youngest gymnast to win Olympic gold, and the only American woman to ever win gold at the Goodwill Games for a reason. Unfortunately she had a lot of bad injuries and bad luck which prevented her from reaching her full potential. That's a very different thing than being overrated

    • @Janellabelle
      @Janellabelle 3 года назад

      She WAS overrated, but I still love her.

  • @lumariadp
    @lumariadp 8 лет назад +48

    Wow, that intro was a mess. Yikes.

    • @tonywilson8645
      @tonywilson8645 4 года назад

      It is typical NBC. Don't tell me you are surprised. It is not like they are much or any better today regardless the sport.

  • @FML_85
    @FML_85 8 месяцев назад +1

    Love Tracy Miller as a coach. Just look at how warm and motherly she is. That's what the girls need!

  • @tp6169
    @tp6169 4 года назад +18

    Omg... this cheesy dream state with Bela.... he was mean. Marta was mean. Dominique was horribly abused and intimidated.

    • @StacyA1000
      @StacyA1000 4 года назад +3

      Tracy Pohle I know !! That’s why she was so broken in the end . That’s why Kim didn’t live up to expectations in ‘92. And why Kristie didn’t live up to expectations. I don’t know how Mary Lou survived unless it’s because the moves were easier back then.

  • @jeffcriswellforu.s.senateg6687
    @jeffcriswellforu.s.senateg6687 3 года назад +4

    little did they know, they'd make history in '96

  • @StacyA1000
    @StacyA1000 8 лет назад +34

    It is my opinion that Steve Nunno should have taken Shannon new height into consideration and had her doing more twists and less flips. kind of like Khorkina used to do.

    • @p.alsol9362
      @p.alsol9362 5 лет назад +4

      Shannon always said she wasnt a good twistter

    • @codydesjardins6820
      @codydesjardins6820 4 года назад +2

      @@p.alsol9362 She may say that but I don't think it is true. She did the full twisting double back off beam easier than almost anyone, and even did in well in a pike position in 93. She did numeorus full ins (piked and tucked) on floor for years. She twisted off vault beautifully. If she said that it is probably since Nunno told her to think that, just one of many times he fed her false information.

    • @Janellabelle
      @Janellabelle 4 года назад +1

      Khorkina is a Queen, but so is Shannon and she twisted just fine. Just like she did everything else.

  • @kras118
    @kras118 10 лет назад +14

    Even though she fell, pretty amazing that Shannon threw the bhs-3loso series

  • @magdalenahaidautu2937
    @magdalenahaidautu2937 6 лет назад +9

    D. Moceanu 🥇🇷🇴❤

  • @angelat.8997
    @angelat.8997 3 года назад +8

    Good Lord. “Disastrous” is when you break your neck falling off the beam - not simply losing your balance.
    These commentators. 🙄

    • @whitneydavis7443
      @whitneydavis7443 3 года назад +2

      They were even worse back then than they are now.

    • @Rizzlergoblin578
      @Rizzlergoblin578 8 дней назад

      A wobble cost most gymnasts back then a chance at medaling, so when many of then worked years to get to the national championships and beyond, and they ruin their medal opportunities because of a tiny mistake, it is disappointing, disastrous is definitely a strong word though.

  • @anovemberstar
    @anovemberstar 3 года назад +5

    having nadia commenci at the stadium to personally cheer you on ... but the PRESSURE dominuque must have felt, from a very early age - her parents planned she woudl be the very next nadia right from birth ...and i imagine that pressure only intensified the closer she got to being elite

  • @Byroneedspace
    @Byroneedspace 4 года назад +8

    I hate how they bring down Shannon Miller, if she was competing nowadays they will be holding her and treating her the way she deserves, they always bring her down because of her “age” she’s 18

    • @codydesjardins6820
      @codydesjardins6820 4 года назад +4

      It had something to do with her results in the last year. In the second half of 94 Dawes clearly eclipsed her as the top U.S gymnast, beating her for all 5 golds at the 94 U.S Championships, then single handedly leading the team to their surprise Team Silver at the November 94 Team Worlds where Miller withdrew after compulsories due to "fatigue" or some weird reason. In the first half of 95 she lost to Powell and Borden both at the American Cup, and then just barely beaten Borden to win the Pan Am Games where both had a fall off beam. They weren't going to talk about her as if she were still the dominant gymnast in the world since.....well she wasn't. Just remember she came 12th All Around at the 95 worlds, 9th at the 96 Games, and won only 1 individual medal at both events (beam at the 96 Olympics). Her dominance was clearly at an end by this point, even if she was still a contender along with Dawes and Moceanu for the U.S AA title.

    • @janetdishler3039
      @janetdishler3039 4 года назад +3

      And yet,she had more titles than any other US gymnast until of course,Simone!

    • @kerridrury4240
      @kerridrury4240 3 года назад

      I agree I hadn't seen the scores or order yet when I heard them talking about Shannon - I thought wow she must be f**king last or something! She was second!! I mean come on people she got absolutely no recognition of that!!

    • @richardross4677
      @richardross4677 3 года назад

      @@kerridrury4240 She was 2nd in the US, not in the world. In the AA at worlds she was 12th and at the Olympics 8th or 9th. This was someone who was 1st in 93 and 94, so it shows the decline they spoke of. Was accurate.

  • @gifthorse9779
    @gifthorse9779 5 лет назад +16

    What an innocent 13 yr old. so humble and genuine. It's amazing how good she is. Is that still legal, to allow kids that young to compete in these championships?

    • @JennaLeigh
      @JennaLeigh 5 лет назад +9

      No. Back then, if you turned 14 in that calendar year, you could compete in Senior Elite. Dominique Moceanu turned 14 that September and so with those rules could compete. That has since changed, elevating how old one must me to compete.

    • @Janellabelle
      @Janellabelle 2 года назад +8

      She had been working 8 hour days 6 days a week since she was 4 under a coach that would call her father over to beat her if he found a milk dud in her backpack. Whatever innocence she had, they had killed long ago by this time, I assure you of that. If you're a fan read her autobiography called Off Balance. You will get enlightened with a quickness.

    • @maniaphobia4719
      @maniaphobia4719 2 года назад +2

      Unfortunately she missed individual medals in 1996 olympics ; That created lot of hot burns for everyone ; The spectators also got disappointed that she could not win any individual medal in olympics ; Anyhow , she was brilliant and beauty combined and no doubt became of the darling of masses than the judges ; To me judges are cruel not to allot her one medal

    • @tatilalima2874
      @tatilalima2874 Год назад +1

      ​@@Janellabelle meu Deus que coisa horrível

    • @Shakespearelover1717
      @Shakespearelover1717 Год назад +2

      @@maniaphobia4719 Off Balance, she accounts her misery at the 1996 Olympics. In the team competition, she fell twice on her vault landing. So did Kerri Strugg. When that happened, both Karolyis abandoned her. Ignored her like she wasn’t there. They were in the gym at a distance where she was practicing for the event competition the next day, but they offered no input. When she went down to check in the next morning, they had left w/o saying good-bye. Pretty bad to do to a kid in the Olympics.

  • @zwinky256
    @zwinky256 11 лет назад +7

    Dominique Moceanu wow!

  • @coll4455
    @coll4455 Год назад +4

    Shannon miller is the queen!!

  • @kras118
    @kras118 9 лет назад +13

    I know it's fairly simple, but Dawes' front pike vault gets incredible height. She has great technique on it

  • @Angela-eq6vk
    @Angela-eq6vk 2 года назад +2

    Crazy how different the scoring was just 26 years ago

  • @ferdinandtambungui3280
    @ferdinandtambungui3280 4 года назад +8

    Dominic a sad story. To much hype but never really flew on the World Stage.

    • @running_girl5512
      @running_girl5512 4 года назад +4

      Of.course the little girl was being verbally abused at the gym by Bella and then emotionally and verbally abused at home by her parents who stole her money, she was forced to do gymnastics on injuries and couldnt heal from them, she had no chance to succeed with all of that. And then later she found out her parents hid a pregnancy from her and gave up her sister for adoption because she was born without legs.

    • @Laura-ch7fl
      @Laura-ch7fl 4 года назад +2

      Right!. She was such a doll and so much strength and talent. I keep thinking how she really could have rallied if it hadn’t been for the over training she received from the karolyi’s and the mental abuse from her father. When she came back a few years later, she was gorgeous and had such poise and grace.

    • @Janellabelle
      @Janellabelle 3 года назад +1

      @@running_girl5512 dont forget physically abused by her father as well

  • @ilikeyoutube836
    @ilikeyoutube836 Год назад +2

    Why does Bela shake her like that?? It's so annoying and disturbing that he mauls her and man handles her the way he does. You can tell she doesn't like it and is just waiting for him to stop. Then this look of relief comes over her face when he finally does. Just wtf?

  • @ErnestoRodriguez-wi3wv
    @ErnestoRodriguez-wi3wv 7 лет назад +22

    geeezzz, the intro is so depressing...
    Not so inspirational, but more insulting.

  • @L5593
    @L5593 Год назад +2

    Shannon Miller: ancient, hungry, and angry!!! ⚰️⚰️⚰️💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣

  • @kerridrury4240
    @kerridrury4240 3 года назад +4

    Shannon should have gotten BONUS pts for the arch on the bars!!!! ha, no really I meant to do that

  • @MeriPT
    @MeriPT 4 года назад +26

    I also hate how they used to put the gymnasts weight in with their names and ages- ew

    • @kristenromaniello8889
      @kristenromaniello8889 4 года назад +1

      Terrible- I was just about to comment the same thing. Thank God they did away with that

  • @mariefuentes2826
    @mariefuentes2826 4 года назад +6

    I hated the way they talked about Shannon ...

    • @kerridrury4240
      @kerridrury4240 3 года назад

      I agree, just yapyapyap right?? As if they could read her mind.

  • @lauragatehouse7935
    @lauragatehouse7935 4 года назад +24

    She could have possibly got 96 champion if the keroylis hadn’t over trained her on a stress fracture .

  • @SonOfAGun1814
    @SonOfAGun1814 3 года назад +5

    nothing personal and no disrespect to moceanu but this is so scripted and edited lol just to overhype someone who only (barely) won because shannon fell. that tom dude is bad actor.

    • @ilikeyoutube836
      @ilikeyoutube836 3 года назад +3

      Dominique wasn't overhyped. was a prodigy, with amazing talent and potential. She was the youngest junior and senior national champion, and the youngest gymnast to win Olympic gold for a reason. Unfortunately she had a lot of bad injuries and bad luck which prevented her from reaching her full potential. It says a lot about her skill at this time that Shannon Miller, one of the greatest gymnasts in history, was her only real competition, and the only gymnast who could barely beat her. She also beat Svetlana Khorkina, also one of the greatest gymnasts in history, for gold in the Goodwill Games. Dominique may have burnt out before her time, but she was very very good while she lasted

  • @snopesshop1903
    @snopesshop1903 4 года назад +10

    It is unreal how much everyone lauded Bela Karoly when he was abusing his athletes the entire time

    • @mariaespinoza6358
      @mariaespinoza6358 3 года назад +3

      Yay. I used to love him and marta so much.
      Can't even right now. It makes me so mad. Alll they had to do was protect the gymnasts. Little girls turning into teenagers. How "the monster" could abuse them. ... But bela... and marta, a woman herself? Beyond me and I cannot repeat their names without disgust in my voice. How could they? Shameful

    • @stephanieruppelt7471
      @stephanieruppelt7471 3 года назад

      At this time period no one knew how abusive Bela was.

    • @illwill5523
      @illwill5523 3 года назад +6

      Wonder y bretton and zmeskal say nothin bout it

    • @illwill5523
      @illwill5523 3 года назад

      *retton

    • @Janellabelle
      @Janellabelle 3 года назад

      @@stephanieruppelt7471 idk I remember being just a few years younger than Domi and reading about gymnastics training then and they did not care that the coaches were abusive at that time. It was just considered part of gymnastics that coaches were emotionally and verbally and physically abusive to the little girls.

  • @user-yz9nn7mg8r
    @user-yz9nn7mg8r Месяц назад

    My childhood gymnastics players in 1995 in summer season 🎉🎉🎉🎉 happy new year 2025 to all🎉🎉🎉

  • @kennatheswiftie2359
    @kennatheswiftie2359 2 года назад +2

    i just about punched my wall when shannon fell on beam

  • @jessicapearshouse1728
    @jessicapearshouse1728 5 лет назад +12

    Read Dominique monceanos memoir the way she was treated by the kyrallis was dispicable.she was an unhappy little girl all of there kindness on camera was a fast.

  • @bewitchers
    @bewitchers 11 лет назад +6

    Jaycie performed so well this night. Her floor begins at 32:20, and it's a gem.

    • @JB-sg1vy
      @JB-sg1vy Год назад +2

      meh it is ok.... the music is awful and does NOT fit her style

    • @TaurusWitch29
      @TaurusWitch29 Год назад +1

      ​@Karolyi agreed. DM was the clear winner that night with the other 3 shuffling around underneath. But it's amazing regardless, I wish I could still do some gymnastics that I used to do lol. I have memories of being around 9 or 10 and going to a gymnastics gym with the uneven bars and balance beams and trampolines for like 6 months but I was in baton and ballet too and was better in pointe ballet, so I stuck with that one until I tore my meniscus two different times before I was 22 and my tailbone at 23 from my knee giving out again, sooo I haven't danced since I was 23 and ill be 36 in a few days. And now my body is so messed up it's not even funny lol. Arthritis everywhere and popping and cracking every single joint when I stand up, especially in my elbows, knees, ankles, and hips 😭😂 I call my knees my weather trackers because 2-3 days in advance, I know its going to rain lol

  • @lisaemilyfox6848
    @lisaemilyfox6848 4 года назад +17

    That Domi fluff piece was so cringe especially after reading her book

  • @onaip79
    @onaip79 4 года назад +18

    Dear God why do they keep saying "little girls" like this, big yikes.

    • @felicialovesnkotb
      @felicialovesnkotb 4 года назад +2

      The Olympics Intro is even more cringey. "Little girls dancing." Over and over.....

    • @kayehni9848
      @kayehni9848 10 месяцев назад

      @@felicialovesnkotb Omg that intro was the cringiest thing i have ever seen!

  • @alisonleigh100
    @alisonleigh100 2 года назад +3

    The little montage of Bela and Dominique…. Now we know the truth!

  • @NotTheThngsUSaid
    @NotTheThngsUSaid 2 года назад +2

    Why don’t they make those cute stories anymore?! I hate that. That was such a great little segment.

  • @sparklegazer319
    @sparklegazer319 4 года назад +2

    Why didn't they score her a 10??? It seems after the 80's judges stopped scoring this way. U can't get anymore flawless then this yet she's given this a 9.85?? Wtf

  • @hazelabdrabbo9393
    @hazelabdrabbo9393 3 года назад +1

    Great champion 👏🏻👍

  • @2passportsandpostcards
    @2passportsandpostcards 2 года назад

    19:40 so much love

  • @EmilyNGymFan
    @EmilyNGymFan 2 года назад

    New Orleans needs to host another national championships before it's too late.

  • @GymFan-ts4pq
    @GymFan-ts4pq 6 лет назад +12

    Gymnasts don't attack beam anymore..

    • @gifthorse9779
      @gifthorse9779 5 лет назад +2

      Just the Queen Catalina Ponor.

    • @JamesFrew1
      @JamesFrew1 5 лет назад +5

      GymFan2000 Raisman and Biles do.

    • @Rizzlergoblin578
      @Rizzlergoblin578 8 дней назад

      @@JamesFrew1raisman is retired and she lost confidence in her 2015-2016 comback, and biles has definitely attacked beam better the past two years

  • @doloresleyva8810
    @doloresleyva8810 2 года назад +2

    No matter what ,these talented gymnast of this era were and still are the best of the best. They all worked so hard for themselves and all aimed to do what was expected of them without quitting! Yes, for some,the sport training was brutal which we all know now but none the less they became top in the game due to their own wants and needs to be winners. Womens gymnastics in the future will rise above adversity and will hopefully regrow to a sport that is better for the young womens mental and physical capabilities without compromising their inner self, bodies and confidence or futures. These women all earned their medals and titles because they had dreams and they should all be very proud of their accomplishments even from so long ago! These ones especially are Americas hero's!!

  • @tayhod2246
    @tayhod2246 Год назад

    where was Amy Chow ?

  • @You.Tube.Sucks.
    @You.Tube.Sucks. 6 лет назад +11

    "Smile -- you're on camera" - Martha Karyoli to Dominique Moceanu (@ ~ 35:20)
    Did I hear that right?

    • @gifthorse9779
      @gifthorse9779 5 лет назад +6

      probably. the athletes in gymnastics or the Americans in general put a large emphasis on smiles. But I'v heard lately that the style of the Karyoli"s training was too brutal, called the old guards, valeri luikin being criticized for the same thing. We'll see what happens to USAG now. Course we won't see it's effect for about 15 yrs from now.

    • @mrparts
      @mrparts 4 года назад +4

      Gift Horse all about the karolys was toxic. Terrible coaching, always seeking publicity at the expense of the gymnasts. It’s a shame that USAG gave them such authority for so many years. good riddance they’re finally gone.

  • @ajimenez1719ify
    @ajimenez1719ify 2 года назад +1

    I'm not quite sure why these commentators always act like a fall is controllable. To be honest, most of the time, you have already fell before you know what hit you. You don't have time to think about where to place your feet or to keep your shoulders up or in line or anything else for that matter. Yes, you can practice a skill over and over but, if your off, your off. I can remember when I was competing back in the early 90's, everytime I would fall I would be so surprised and wonder what happened just like everyone else wondered. I didn't think ," oh, I didn't keep my chest up", or ," oh, it was me loosing confidence in myself ". Its just, " I fell this time, better luck next time". That's it. Sometimes you just can't control it. That's all I'm saying.

  • @silverpurkat
    @silverpurkat Год назад

    The fact they said 18 was an ancient. My have so much as change since then and there’s less serious injuries too. They don’t like like frail little gymnast either but muscle power houses.

  • @strongbad635
    @strongbad635 9 лет назад +16

    Elfie is incorrect at 39:13. The hop-full pirouette was never named "the Miller" in any CoP. The first female gymnast to perform it was Oksana Chusovitina, and it bears her name.

    • @amybrown7723
      @amybrown7723 9 лет назад +6

      strongbad635 That's not surprising. Tim and Elfie (now Nastia) are incorrect about a lot of things.

    • @kaylajones4356
      @kaylajones4356 9 лет назад +2

      THE CHUSO

    • @DMH_701
      @DMH_701 6 лет назад +1

      I ♥️ Oksana Chusovitna!

    • @elishevajones6730
      @elishevajones6730 8 месяцев назад +1

      Communist propaganda.

  • @rebeccaramo
    @rebeccaramo 9 лет назад +27

    The way the commentators (especially Tim) cherry pick at how the gymnasts land, to the exclusion of all the other amazing elements of their routines, and assign feelings and thoughts to the girls that they may or may not have, is just another way of objectifying women. The Tim and Elfie nonsense has slightly lessened over the years, but not enough.

    • @SonOfAGun1814
      @SonOfAGun1814 8 лет назад +2

      tim's nonsense is at an all time high in 2016........

    • @lerinjensen8938
      @lerinjensen8938 7 лет назад +4

      But, Tim is ALWAYS right. People don't like his commentary, but he gets it every single time. He's been calling Olympic team members for decades.

    • @NYCBlonde
      @NYCBlonde 7 лет назад +3

      I don't mind the nitpicking--they are experts--but the nonsense about tears, and their weight, and the endless CLOSEUPS on their faces is vomit-inducing. I like Tim and Elfie but NBC's commentary (they are the power structure that dictates how T&E talk) is effing AWFUL.

    • @peterpeterkins5776
      @peterpeterkins5776 7 лет назад +1

      Tim makes an effort to really get to know the gymnasts, that's what I like about him. He's always talking about speaking with the gymnasts and their coaches individually. He's super knowledgeable and as the other poster pointed out, he's always right about who's getting chosen.

    • @cgkitti
      @cgkitti 6 лет назад +4

      I really hate the emphasis on weight and age. There already is enough pressure on these athetes and then having their weight broadcast everywhere. Unnecessary and no surprise eating disorders are a thing.

  • @anitamaldonado73
    @anitamaldonado73 11 лет назад +2

    she is very good at gynmastics

    • @JennaLeigh
      @JennaLeigh 5 лет назад +3

      Who are you referring to?

    • @Janellabelle
      @Janellabelle 3 года назад

      @@JennaLeigh lol all of them probably.

  • @thesovgc
    @thesovgc 3 года назад +1

    I guess Oksana Omelianchik didn't exist to Tim Daggett. For shame!

  • @thesalymn6217
    @thesalymn6217 2 года назад

    why do they still give them tips in the moment. shouldn't that all have been said before?

  • @unknown-lf6zx
    @unknown-lf6zx Год назад

    I love Steve Nunno! His enthusiasm is contagious! I wonder if they are still close today!

  • @alisonleigh100
    @alisonleigh100 2 года назад +1

    18: Ancient?!

  • @seer1623
    @seer1623 Год назад +1

    The introductory comments about Shannon Miller were apalling. Ancient? Angry? No wonder eating disorders were rampant in this sport among other mental disorders.

  • @PamArbaugh-jc5ho
    @PamArbaugh-jc5ho 3 месяца назад

    Why was Dominique? D not wearing turner paws if her wrist hurt that bad like the other Dominique it didn’t make any sense to me because she could’ve use that and it would’ve helped her way more but whatever

  • @joannasarcamedes8191
    @joannasarcamedes8191 2 года назад

    Was Dominique Dawes in three Olympics?

  • @freudianslip2010
    @freudianslip2010 11 лет назад +2

    Before 1997, you could compete as a senior if you turned 15 in the same calendar year and I believe that if it was the year before an Olympic year (as in you would turn senior the following year) they'd let you move up early. But I could be wrong on that second part.

  • @revaew1379
    @revaew1379 4 года назад +4

    It makes me so sad after reading her book that she couldn't even celebrate winning bc they put her down so. Even told her parents not to congratulate her too much. In 96 Bela convinced her she wasn't injured when she was, they told her she was imagining it, turned out to be a huge stress fracture right before the Olympics...and the karoyli's could not have given less of a shit. When Marta took over she still forced girls on the national team to train til they broke and then sent them to Nassar.

  • @matthewhines9787
    @matthewhines9787 9 лет назад +4

    I often used to wonder if Bart Conner, and/or Kathy Johnson Clarke ever felt awkward trying to clean up the misstatements of the NBC staff. You think Tim at least now knows that at least a half dozen people did back-to-back tumbling like Dawes before or during her career.

    • @emmyjo720
      @emmyjo720 9 лет назад +5

      Matthew Hines Clearly they didn't see Omelianchek, Shushunova, Silivas, do back-to-back tumbling...ten years before this competition.

    • @captainbryce1
      @captainbryce1 5 лет назад +1

      This is US national championships. Dawes was the first American to do it. And she had the most difficult combination of back to back tumbling ever done.

  • @fishtail1129
    @fishtail1129 6 месяцев назад

    Shannon looks SO uncomfortable when Nunno and Peggy hug her. So cringe.

  • @raymondpatrick430
    @raymondpatrick430 Год назад

    8:50 WTF!? Dominique Moceanu's parents wanted to give her to the Karyolis at 3 years old!?

  • @thecatspajamas8918
    @thecatspajamas8918 4 года назад +5

    Steve Nunno gives me the creeps. Shannon always looked so uncomfortable whenever he hugged her.

    • @tinakover385
      @tinakover385 3 года назад +7

      Shannon ALWAYS looked uncomfortable no matter what she was doing.

    • @tatilalima2874
      @tatilalima2874 Год назад

      Mas ela foi abusada fisicamente ou verbalmente por ele?

  • @williamt594
    @williamt594 5 лет назад +5

    90s fluff, killer of all

  • @missmoxie9188
    @missmoxie9188 4 года назад +1

    The Ludlows from Legends Of The Fall
    That movie was huge back then

  • @gymnastlily6620
    @gymnastlily6620 7 лет назад +4

    scoring was diffrent

  • @Moon-Marie
    @Moon-Marie 2 года назад

    35:28

  • @stacyadamsboard309
    @stacyadamsboard309 4 года назад +2

    Love how Dominique Moceanus parents look like such great folks but pretty sure they'd just had Dominiques sister who was born handicapped n just tossed her away

    • @running_girl5512
      @running_girl5512 4 года назад +2

      They didnt really toss her away and honestly it sounds like that sister was the lucky one to get away from those verbally abusive parents

    • @ilikeyoutube836
      @ilikeyoutube836 4 года назад +3

      @@running_girl5512 Jennifer actually lucked out. She had a very happy life with supportive loving parents, whereas Domi had pressure and abuse

  • @katekramer7679
    @katekramer7679 Год назад

    Hello from 2022. Is the commentary cringey af? Yes. Is the behavior and "coaching" of the adults, in light of what we now know, also cringey? Absolutely. But let's not forget that the graphics were also cringey. Makes you think about how many people in 2032 will cringe at what we consider great graphics now.

  • @SupaSal62
    @SupaSal62 4 года назад +1

    Nicking the music from Apollo 13 for the Dominique Moceanu fluff piece I see.

  • @annanicole1717
    @annanicole1717 4 года назад +3

    Vicious commentators. Totally abusive! Why didn’t I notice this back then? They ought to go to jail for the way they hurt, insult, humiliate, and put down these strong, talented athletes. The sport of gymnastics is so critical, and cruel, nothing is ever ‘good enough’, always a “slight deduction” somewhere. Gosh, give a girl a break!

  • @hasteurcat
    @hasteurcat 2 года назад

    I always hated the coverage of the US gymnastics-do you even know the name of 1 other gymnast who competed ??? They always focused on the top stories and that was it. I mean at least show who was there and their placement.

  • @SonOfAGun1814
    @SonOfAGun1814 5 лет назад +10

    lol moceanu only won because Shannon had a miss. winning by only 2 tenths when someone else has a miss and fluke break on another event isn't impressive, esp. considering (if you mute all the noise) that Shannon is such a far superior gymnast.... the faux hype for moceanu and trying desperately to tear Shannon down is so obviously staged. I wouldn't be surprised if this was pre-recorded and voiced over by the 'commentators' after the fact - did bela karolyi personally direct those ridiculous fluff pieces??

    • @gifthorse9779
      @gifthorse9779 5 лет назад

      He probably did since he's the main character of them most of the time.

    • @codydesjardins6820
      @codydesjardins6820 4 года назад +2

      The only reason it wasn't a bigger gap was compulsories where Miller was well ahead. In optionals alone Moceanu won by roughly the margin of Miller's fall and that was with getting only a 9.9 start value on floor (she expected a 10 but didn't get bonus for something). I agree Moceanu was way overhyped but this is fucking NBC, what do you expect. They are always interested in the next exciting thing. Miller had already been eclipsed as the top U.S gymnast in the 2nd half of 94 by Dawes although Dawes was out of form here, and in early 95 she had mediocre showings like being beaten by Powell and Borden at the American Cup. Little surprise the hype machine on Miller was not at an all time high, it was clear her dominance was over already. People could already see she had little to no shot to defend her World AA later that year where she came I think 12th (Moceanu by the way 5th).

    • @grantdesjardins764
      @grantdesjardins764 3 года назад

      @Russell Hayman Well compulsories aren't part of the final All Around scores at a Worlds or Olympics. So in that sense it is an important thing to point out.

    • @ilikeyoutube836
      @ilikeyoutube836 3 года назад +2

      Dominique wasn't overhyped. was a prodigy, with amazing talent and potential. She was the youngest junior and senior national champion, and the youngest gymnast to win Olympic gold for a reason. Unfortunately she had a lot of bad injuries and bad luck which prevented her from reaching her full potential. Thats a very different thing than being overrated. It says a lot about her skill at this time that Shannon Miller, one of the greatest gymnasts in history, was her only real competition, and the only gymnast who could barely beat her. She also beat Svetlana Khorkina, also one of the greatest gymnasts in history, for gold in the Goodwill Games. Dominique may have burnt out before her time, but she was very very good while she lasted.

  • @blueclover9918
    @blueclover9918 4 года назад +3

    What a cooorrnnyy intro

  • @rebeccaramo
    @rebeccaramo 9 лет назад +7

    Furthermore, the word "DISASTER" is way over-used. I would rather hear technical commentary alone, rather than the added Tim and Elfi clown show of egoism.

    • @susandilaudo9534
      @susandilaudo9534 7 лет назад

      Rebecca Ramo-Cofiño i was gonna make same comment. geez....i think i counted 6 times that word was used to describe Miller's BB

    • @evasteinprinz5645
      @evasteinprinz5645 6 лет назад

      I was just reading this comment when Tim said "disaster"😂

    • @lauragatehouse7935
      @lauragatehouse7935 4 года назад

      Commentators are very poor

  • @steadyc9277
    @steadyc9277 4 года назад

    WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK WITH THAT INTRO????!!!

  • @ExplorHits
    @ExplorHits 4 года назад +5

    Such a rude intro...

  • @cristinapaun4792
    @cristinapaun4792 Год назад

    Părinții sunt romani cred., Dominic Moceanu